VT Police Coerce Man to Consent to Search

[schniv]

Fucking pig. Stolen- it's means taking something without permission. That's what 'seizing' it is, stealing. Dumb fucker.

[kull218]

fap fap fap

[AlCaPownMC]

fucked up

[2017Downtown]

The coercion is crazy...

[1775novten]

haha, wait just a second. The officer said "The dog alerted to your car" and then said "you can either give us consent or we'll seize it until we get a warrant". If I'm not mistaken, isn't the "alert" of a K9 probable cause to search in of itself? Which leads us to believe that the dog actually didn't alert and the cop is lying to get consent. Police are such thugs.

[greggh]

Even more upsetting than these criminal cop thugs shitting on the constitution is that you sold your 4th amendment rights away for the price of a $100 tow.

[wickedisagod]

nope thats a threat cops are assholes

[trueleroix]

I hope somebody is thoughtful enough to torture these officers before euthanizing them.

[trueleroix]

@JACOB3601 Come to Lantana, FL...ask for Leigh Hunt. Bring your cousin with the pathetic job too. Do this or shut the fuck up.

[trueleroix]

@JACOB3601 I said, "Do this or shut the fuck up."  Instead you write some sick nonsense about pedophilia. You are very sad. I would love to admuinister your beating, but I know you are a pathetic coward, such a piece of shit, I would call you a state trooper, but I don't want to be mean. I just hope that you run your mouth in publis, and somebody superior to you, like myself does the morally imperative thing by beating you to a bloody pulp. Consider suicide, please.

[trueleroix]

@JACOB3601 Excellent, fuckface, now just tell me how to find you.

[vada2000]

dog alerted at 1:06

[ohannahdad]

Maybe I missed it but I was wondering why this guy was stopped to begin with. Also he could have and should have demanded to have a ranking officer on the scene before the dog even got there. This guy allowed so many illegal acts against him, and the main cop here was nothing more tha a wise ass. I would have done a few things differently because that cop new as much about law as a racoon knows about plumbing. Then I'd sue, and give any settlement money to a charity. It's not about money.

[mrupe46]

Go back to the state you came from hippie. Nothing worse than a smug punk who thinks he knows what hes talking about.

[mulletcar]

WOW!!!! Note to self, do NOT visit Vermont...

[jalopy221]

@btwicked I second your latest comment. No warrant = NO search.

[btwicked]

Standing up for your rights has nothing to do with hating cops or being a criminal. The fact that so many comments here say "should have just let them search!" Proves that you people are easily programmed to accept a new "social order" that has nothing to do with freedom. For that matter isn't a K9 sniffer dog the same as a search? That is the intent the police have when they use k9s, to see into your constitutionally protected private life, its just a work out method.

[heartuvgold]

My bad. The first thing is he should have not rolled the window all the way down. He should have just rolled it low enough to pass documents. Then second, if told to get out, he should have pocketed the keys then reached behind his back and pushed the door lock and shut the door. They're always telling you to lock your door and take your keys

[heartuvgold]

The first thing he should have done is get out of the car and lock the door and put the keys in his pocket. If they take his keys off his person, it's illegal seizure. He would have their balls in court.

[bohemoth1]

Towing the car to search it is unlawful seizure it is a "Matter of Law" . The issue of "Probable Cause" forecloses the right to refuse consent. Consent is moot if there is probable cause. As to the dog alerting the officer of drugs, guidelines are in place as to how the dog would or should behave during an alert. I alway say go get your warrant I"m calling my lawyer.

[nextdimensions]

All this because he had a headlight out ?

[hunkyguyjake]

dirty pig nazi's no wonder people hate mouthy power tripping cops////

[1GodOnlyOne]

LOL The cop wants a copy of the video -- did you give him one??? LOL

I'm usually on the side of the citizens in these videos, but I have to admit that the cop powned you when you said that you don't know VT law, and he immediately said that you should stop talking.

I admire the stuff you guys do, and I love the videos, but in that case, you talked too much.

[acres90]

what a douche....he must have been picked on as a child

[MMACHMP]

correct answer is with all due respect officer "GO FUCK YOURSELF" your not searching shit.

[RockAfella73]

The cops seemed like they were up to somthing.Why was they so worried about the camera being on?? Somthing to hide?They went to extreme lengths and threats to try to get the camera out of there.I hate cops they are nerds who got their ass beat in school and now take it out on others because they have a little bit of power.

[jacobromu]

This cop is crazy evil.

[naymelful]

I'm always afraid someone will put something in my car if this happens.

[jwb864]

mabye this city should consider laying off police enforcment if this is what there wasting tax paying dollars for

[HelloCupcake411]

What does coerce mean?

[tatwood16]

gyi

[MKrip808]

In Missouri a stop that lasted too long for a traffic infraction ended up helping to free a man who was caught with multiple pounds of marijuana.

[yoyo762]

This law, if I understand it correctly, needs to be challenged. To have your property siezed and confiscated without grounds and then charge you money ( a fine for innocence ? ) for taking your property needs to be confronted.

This is another example of why we must be vigilante of our freedoms. There will always be some jack booted do gooders thinking that we must sacrifice our rights for their idea of safety.

[LassieLupin]

We tripped over this video in my Law class, the class was laughing hysterically about the illegality of all of this, from the prolonged Terry Stop to the coercion that occurred. It's truly amazing. "It's an 'Alternative'" has become a catch phrase with all of us. I think the real issue here is that cops only go through about two weeks of legal classes so often they'll commit illegal action without knowledge that they are.

[GloriousCoconut]

@LassieLupin That's very interesting! Your law class watches youtube during class?

Anyway, it's unfortunate that legal remedies to things like this, such as getting Andrew paid for his 3 hours wasted, are so difficult, and that police, on a whim, can waste so much of an innocent person's time.

[nbaustin]

@GloriousCoconut I show YouTube videos to my students. It depicts real-life events. It's a good resource for professors.

[lionel21000]

@LassieLupin Actually all of us cops that know the whole story of what happened here are laughing hysterically at the people that are posting these comments. Because of the insane court decisions made in Vermont, this is the only way that this car stop could happen. The troopers on this stop actually did everything 100% by the book. The book, of course, being the law that lawyers have created. Your comment shows that YOU actually are the one that knows nothing of Vermont criminal code.

[yingdiskette]

@LassieLupin You tripped over this video in "law class"? So you go to a law class and yet youre anti police? Bring on them weed, I wanna smoke it too!

[HairBrain6]

The K9's dogs alert to the handlers that he smells something is 9 times out of 10 for them to just simply SIT!!!!

[Beez252]

@HairBrain6 You are confusing an alert and an indication. The sit is an indication, not an alert. Only the handler can testify to the K9's actual alert. Unless you have trained with that specific K9, you can not say whether the K9 did or did not alert. Every K9 alerts differently.

[bluemoonlady1]

What looks extremely professional isn't always.

[bluemoonlady1]

Maybe doing it by the book ,however if you are thier friend then you don't get stuck with the tickets. Some of the state police are there because they truley want to keep the peace ,however there are some who get power happy at times.Police ,judges some of ours have been caught growing and selling weed and all they got was thier hands slapped and on thier way. Shame! Shame!

[chieftp]

"you can assert your rights, but it's going to cost you $100." 

[jayskyall]

There are two sides to this. (If you don't have anything to hide let them search you) and (I understand and value my unalienable rights.)

Everyone knows police have a hard job, but that doesn't mean you should just bow down and let them do whatever. People who refuse a search are not criminals, they are well informed. Talk is cheap, but I would rather have my car towed and let a judge sign a warrant. THE ONLY RIGHTS YOU HAVE ARE THE ONES YOUR WILLING TO FIGHT FOR.

[MrNietzel]

Way to go Andrew. Fuck search and seizure and fuck this absurd waste of tax payers money. Taxes on your wages are unconstitutional. But yet you can't stand up to Uncle Sam because the tax on you labor pays the police. Wake up. Weed is not the problem, heroin isn't the problem. American disconnect and dissolution is the problem. Wake-up! stop watching American news tv. FOX NEWS IS A CORPORATION owned by an Aussi. Gotta love STUDIN's obvious familiarity with weed and his joking demeanor.

[chieftp]

detaining you for refusing to consent to a search (while they wait for the drug dog to come out) = ILLEGAL detainment. they can NOT detain you for refusing to consent to a search.

[pureplayaa]

a dog barking which is natural for them gives police the right to search yet a police officer's human mind isn't probable cause. Duh Not on either side but there has to be a less controlled way in order for police to search your property whether the accused has given consent or not.

[pureplayaa]

what's stupid is if you say no they can't search your car, they call canine and a dog (that is trained by police) gives a trained warning, they are able to search and prosecute.

[272Christopher]

more people should take a stand against the police.however,I have never had the "pleasure" of dealing with police as friendly as these.Also its funny at the end how the officer says "I'm going to need a copy of that" haha. Awesome job guys!!

[weinmanjoe]

Andrew you dumb ass! the cops had reasonable suspicion to search your car. Camera guy is a jock strap causing a bigger problem with attitude. If you had nothing illegal in your vehicle and the cops find nothing your on your way. No one coerced you to let the cops search either. you chose to take this choice

[rockkinironmaiden]

This kid is being such an asshole to the cops

[jeepcreep927]

@rockkinironmaiden - the typical 20 something psuedo- lawyer that thinks he's an expert. "I don't know about Vermont law" should have been his own cue to shut up.

[spitfirefourhundred]

this search was coerced, what gets me irritated is the fact that these officers did not want to be taped by anyone other than their own cars which by the way were sufficiently out of the way so that they could not be clearly seen. whoever video taped this was completely within their rights to do so, so keep in mind your rights whenever you get pulled over, that way you cant be rail-roaded into something like this as well

[AnnoyingTypoSyndrome]

Satanic Polise !

No wonder they are gonne get a communist govt - its to stop them being thieves !

[jayskyall]

I got in some trouble recently and was charged with a few things, one of them a felony. Without going into much detail (privacy) I did get arrested, released and cited. I didn't say a fucking word the whole time cause either innocent/guilty STFU. I retained a lawyer and all charges were dismissed. It cost me some cheddar, but hey I'm not a felon...

[drewman292]

dude i love that cameraman he knows by the books keep up the sweet rebellion man

[munky002]

In Vermont, the police need consent to search your car. If you do not give consent and the police have probable cause, they can seize your vehicle and tow it until they are granted a warrant; which may or may not be granted to them.

[monsterdog1982]

you are a moron..... you proved your point, your an Ahole.. Good job

[chieftp]

people need to get over this outdated idea that police are there to help. yeh - they're there to help alright - help arrest, convict and incarcerate you to feed the judicial/prison industry, increase their department's funding, and meet their quotas (now referred to as "contact points.") when you get in a situation like this - NEVER consent to a search and keep your mouth SHUT. do not answer ANY questions.

see flexyourrights video on being detained and interrogated, er uh, "interviewed."

[jpear708]

The officer had probable cause to search and sieze the vehicle. Since there was probable cause a warrant is NOT needed and he can seize without it. This officer was VERY polite and explained things very clearly. I dont know specific VT law but in Texas you would likely have been arrested for interfering with the officer. Bottom line if you have nothing to hide then give the officer consent he finds nothing,and you are on your way.  Instead you act like a dick and it takes a half hour.

[1EarthCitizen]

In Vermont, the VT Supreme Court ruled that in Feb. 2007 that the police need a search warrant to search you car.

[AntiFed1791]

YOU are a criminal. YOU are guilty until they decide you are not guilty. YOU have no rights. If you try and exercise your natural rights, they will punish you for it.

Cops; I want you to think about how you do business. Do you think you are safer by treating people this way? Would you want someone to treat your son or daughter this way?

[tnewt21]

learn the law first before you run at the mouth about something you clearly know nothing about.... creator of this

[jonerton15]

they're gonna seize the car until they get a warrant? So wouldn't that be a seizure without a warrant? wtf!

[tnewt21]

no its not

[jpear708]

UH....NO!!

[wannabetrooper263]

by law they cant search your car unless consent witch was not given by the owner a warrent witch was none and they cant take your car unless you comited a crime witchs was not done they were wrong they should have better things to do then search an innocent mans car vermont police have been nown to be corrupt

[F350With460engine]

Completely agree they are corrupt. They will do anything to nail someone for something. That and they are busting kids for underage drinking even if they are just sitting in a basement with the keys in a locked area so no one has the chance to drive. I have 0 respect for any VT state trooper and my uncle is a VT State Trooper and he is a power fueled man now that he is a cop. He use to be a good guy now hes about as useless as tits on a bull now.

[whtownejr]

Police use subtle questions to determine quickly if you may have something to hide. Something tells me "Andrew" gave a "tell" to the Officer stating to the Officer that something was wrong. Besides, the amount of paperwork this Officer will have to do for this incident tells me he believes somethiing is wrong, otherwise he'd take off and write a a few tickets. I personally think "Andrew" had something to hide. Mr. Film Maker, tell the truth, Andrew had something in the car, didn't he?

[whtownejr]

what everybody seems to forget, is when the Officer's are searching a car, any party involved or friends of the suspect "hanging out" are potential threats to the Officer's safety. The Officer needs to concentrate on searching, not what Joe Schmoe is doing behind him. That said, Every dog has it's own "alert" so just because you didn't see it in the video, doesn't mean it didn't happen. The police are very busy, their had to be a good reason to call in a dog.

[F350With460engine]

What are you a Trooper your self? They are wasting this much time just to nail someone for something as small as a marijuana charge? Which is a misdemeanor, it is like watching a county construction crew one person doing all the work while the others stand around. Cldnt they just leave and be out doing their job? Nailing drunk drivers and actually protecting the citizens of our state?

[yoyo762]

@whtownejr No, dogs do NOT have their own alert style as you say.

They are all trained the exact same way and are taught to signal the same way.

Giving us this Dr Dolittle concept that only the handler knows what the dog is thinking tells me that the handler wants all the discretion and power. If only he knows the dogs alerts, then its only within his authority to decide if the dog alerted.

Nice try though attempting to sell us on his special communication skills with dogs, lol.

[code3paris]

Cop says "Can you turn the camera off for me buddy?" and the guy says "This is a one party consent state." The cop says "OK." Wow, know your rights and stick to them. Great! You have courage.

[1EarthCitizen]

The USA is a huge police state, and it's going to get worse in America. Americans better wake up soon...real soon!

[JGrant1096]

I think I heard "Well I don't know Vermont Law...."

[tnewt21]

not so big an bad now Mr. Well, uh why are u doing this? Think of yourself as a toddler... Because they can! If you are so inocent, give them consent and they find nothing

[jonyb0b13]

its not about if your innocent or not its about respecting your rights

[ActionFigureDudeVT]

WAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAH!!! And people say smoking pot doesn't affect yoru brain. OBVIOUSLY!!

[TheoryConspiracy]

So you have smoked a little pot back in your day and there is reminants of it in your pile of metal. Big deal, still, the cops have to do their job. Which means they can take as long as they want to get the job done. I would strongly urge you to go to the State Capital if you want results rather than shoving a camera in the cops faces in attempt to make a point. The only thing I saw coming across was a bunch of overgrown cry babies.

[TheoryConspiracy]

You're absolutely right Mr. Coconuts! The war on drugs is hurting innocent people. Which is why State and National Governments have laws and have designated certain people to enforce those laws to protect these people. We pull a car at the border of the US that has over 23 pounds of Cocaine because the dog "alerted." Whether or not they found anything is the end result. The process is the same because its what is required. Which means, keep quiet. Be patient, and let them do their job.

[TheoryConspiracy]

I see a GPS in the video. "BING BONG, In 300 yards you will reach A DUMBASS"

[JGrant1096]

LOL! nice. It should have a built in law consultant as well.

[JGrant1096]

1 1/2 hours? I didn't think it took that long.  I saw one video that was 6 1/2 mins long, and another that was almost 9 mins. Apparently there is quite a bit I didn't see that happened.

[MrsMarineMom]

WTF....the cops were extremely professional!! If you knew you didn't have any weed in the car, then you should have just let them search it. If you were being shot at, those cops would be your best friend. Trp Studin, Trp Hughes, Trp Lapierre and Ofcr Carroll...thank you for your professional and the job you do. I wouldn't want your job. M606A

[GloriousCoconut]

He eventually did let them search. It took 1.5 hours. That's okay with you? To hold a man for that long for nothing?

[jayskyall]

@MrsMarineMom

I respect police, but I don't like the BS games they play like this. If the dog signaled then they should of searched. If they have to ask you to search your car IT MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO DO SO LEGALLY. If it were me I'd say, fine tow my car, get a warrant do your job, but your not stepping over MY RIGHTS. They give people such a hard time like this so more people will roll over for them, it makes their job easier.

[kobepower]

@MrsMarineMom why even if i didn't have drugs i wouldn't let them search it, its people like you that give your your rights , and fuel there power trip of the law enforcement stupid moron go learn your rights and stand up for yourself and stop being a tool for the government.

[AnnoyingTypoSyndrome]

@MrsMarineMom:

Perhaps they shuold be alowed to have sex with you too, if youve nothing to hide ?

Or take your mney unless you wish them to be broke ? Or eat you, rather than force them to be hungry ?

Idiot !

[MrBullfrog9876]

@MrsMarineMom The man in this video was extremely professional and kind to the cops, if the cops knew he did not have weed in the car (he did not have and the dog is worthless if it allerted) Why did they search his car?  When it comes election time and tax time we elect them and pay them, making us their best friends, they need us as well. Cops are not gods.

[CivicFiberglassDoor]

@MrsMarineMom "If you knew you didn't have any weed in the car, then you should have just let them search it. " This tells me I know you're not a lawyer. You may not have weed but you may not know you have something that is illegal. The burden of proof is on the STATE to prove you did something wrong.

Also the Supreme Court has affirmed that the rights aren't to protect the guilty but to protect the innocent against some ambiguous situation where you end up getting arrested.

[daddyg321]

@MrsMarineMom Yeah they should be allowed to steal your car, search your house, place soldiers in your home, and tell you how to vote too.

[jradonis1]

@MrsMarineMom Why let the cops search his car when they do not have any solid evidence of wrongdoing? Just because the police want to search is not a good reason to let them do anything. People have rights and if they dont use them then those rights will be lost. Those cops sure seemed like douch bags to me.

[MrHessenrahb]

@MrsMarineMom hey if i was being shot at my best friend would be my .40cal not a cop, who is 3-5min. away. manipulation is not professionalism!

[MikeHunt1052]

@MrsMarineMom Except for the part they violated the man's 4th Amendment rights...yeah they were "professional".

[masshysteriaxx]

@MrsMarineMom i don't think it's ever a good idea to let a cop search your car, whether you think you have anything illegal in it or not. what if one of his friends left weed in his car and he didn't know about it? he would get in trouble for that. just an example, but things like that happen. i don't care if i have something illegal in my car or not, i'm not going to take the risk of letting a cop search it.

[SimplyThinkDreams]

@masshysteriaxx Or the cops could plant something too.

[JGrant1096]

Its pretty clear that any comments that disagree with the publisher of this video are ridiculed. Its not our fault you guys are so closed minded.

Go ahead, hate the cops. Hope you have fun befriending the worlds criminals.

[KHLionel]

Well, I'd like to thank the moron that submitted this video for supporting Vermont law enforcement. At 1:55, you point out that the dog alerting to the car is PC for a warrantless search, thus police should be able to continute without asking for consent. In 49 other states, yes. In Vermont, Judges are so worried about protecting people like you, that they require LEOs to go this extra step. Wouldn't it have just been so much easier to hand over the weed????

[GloriousCoconut]

Thanks for the information. But taking his car away as an "alternative" isn't any better.

And, he didn't have anything to hand over. He told the police that over and over again. They held him and searched anyway.

The war on drugs is hurting innocent people. Possession of a plant (or suspicion of such) should not be grounds to detain and imprison.

[loveourcops]

he was detained, yes. imprisoned? no. but could have been for impeding an investigation.

[hockey3761]

@GloriousCoconut your right. Most people say oh the police do no wrong...power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Dont worry though, many wont agree with you because most people go off of emotion anways,

[lionel21000]

@GloriousCoconut You really have no clue at all. Because of idiot lawyers they created so many laws that this is the only way that this car stop could have proceeded.

[tjhombs]

@lionel21000 Lawyers do not create laws.  The criminals you vote into office are the ones who create the laws. The other criminals wearing the badges lovingly enforce the BS that the corrupt politicians put on the books.

[bennoz100]

@GloriousCoconut hey man, I don't know why you guys wasted so much time just to make a point. If a police officer pulled me over and wanted to search my car, I would have no problem allowing him to if I didn't have anything to hide. Especially knowing that if I refused, the whole traffic stop would take 2 hours and a pissed off cop as opposed to 20 minutes and everyone's happy. The officer is just ensuring everyone is abiding by the rules and you should be appreciative of his vigilance.

[JGrant1096]

Here we have a bunch of young adults who apparently have a bigger ego than an education HUNT DOWN our Law Enforcement Officers with cameras in attempt to create some bias and COERCE the REST of us into believing somewhere that your poor civil rights had been violated. I'm ashamed to be on the same planet as you bastards. You kick and scream and shout "unfair unfair" and yet you were the one who was in the wrong. Freedom is a privilage not a right. Show some respect!

[ninjabunnyman]

Freedom is a right Mr. Tyrant. You do not own me or my life, and I have a right to make my own choices with my life and finances, as long as I don't harm others.

I don't use pot, because I consider it a poor choice, but I own my body, and it's my prerogative.

The only "hunting down" was when he was pulled over. And the only coercion occurring -- meaning threat of violence -- is coming from the cops. In fact, it's how they fund themselves. You're projecting police abuse onto the victims of it.

[TheSpeakurmind]

Can someone please explain to me why the entire video was not posted? Funny, how that happens! Always two sides to a story especially when viewers are not even getting the whole story from these upstanding citizens. Why dont you explain how soon before the stop you were smoking and doing drugs? Where is that video?

[GloriousCoconut]

The freedom that was fought for is the freedom to be held by cops on the side of the road over the suspicion of possession of a plant? Sad.

Threats of violence are present any time you are dealing with police, because if you don't do what they say, what do you think will happen? Had Andrew peacefully gotten in his car and tried to drive away, how long until the police begin acting violently?

[RishavR]

FUCKING BULLSHIT!

[KaptainKaka]

Total bullshit.

[zazzoo420]

hahaha i hate cops. hope they all choke on it

[loveourcops]

i hope you never call the police because you're in danger. with that attitude, i'd hate to be the one helping you out when you're in need. but i am confident that each and every one of the troopers in this video would be the bigger person and come to your aid. (yes, i know them all personally, and they're all great guys.)

[ninjabunnyman]

I'd have plenty of money to pay for a far more effective and efficient agency of my own choosing to come and help me when I'm in trouble, they didn't force me to pay for their B.S. "services", which mostly consist of harassing and abusing innocent people.

I know it's the system, but these "great guys" should grow a spine, and a moral principle or two. Stop enforcing every arbitrary diktat a politician or bureaucrat comes up with, and above all, stop funding your agency by extortion.

[loveourcops]

until you've met them, spent time with them, and gotten to know them, i don't believe you can comment on their morals, principles, or spines.

[ninjabunnyman]

They throw hundreds of thousands of people in jail every year who have harmed no one but themselves, in so doing, fund nearly all of the violent gangs in the country, and terrorists overseas.

Examples of outrageous police abuse arrive almost daily, and are nearly never dealt with seriously.

There are notable exceptions, which I readily admit, where individual cops take a brave moral stand. But this is the exception, not the rule.

[F350With460engine]

There is nothing to love about them. I have spent time with them, in ways I havent wanted to. I have been pulled over and harassed by cops multiple times. I got pulled over for a malfunctioned headlight and they were about to search my vehicle because they were suspicious and called in other units to the scene. I fought my right to not have the vehicle searched for no reason and I dont smoke pot and I have never done a hardcore drug in my life. They are all corrupt and power hungry.

[edanmilner]

This is a very unsettling video, and I admire you guys for staying in these cops' faces. Sound logic: "It's not a threat, it's an alternative." How about ... ULTIMATUM? Sadly, if you sent this video to the Vermont legislature, they'd stand behind their boys.

[nealaus]

I guess VT is going to get more people looking into, learning, and challenging their laws ;)

[armygirl821]

I hate sneaky cops like that. It boils my blood!

[JoeyMisanthropy]

Sneaky? I see nothing sneaky. Exceedingly stupid cops... isn't that what you really meant?

[armygirl821]

No sneaky in the way that he is trying to twist the laws to get his way...

[JoeyMisanthropy]

I just don't feel sneaky is the correct word, at all. It implies a certain subtlety. Maybe substitute forcibly manipulative? It is certainly a form of coercion to have the only path that preserves your rights cost money.

Sorry to be argumentative over the choice of a word, I'm one of those people. Thanks for putting up with me. :)

[illdietommorow]

I love how cops (not ALL but many) will talk down to people.

[ninjabunnyman]

What a thug. Get a real job, where you actually do something of value, instead of harassing innocent people, you crook.