Citroen DS3 Racing v hot hatchback rivals - evo Magazine

[PlayHiFi]

Any hint at Chris's jacket?

[bb3xhrhj]

"burbury cap'd place"? :D i lol'd

[GR3B3N]

It's FWD, meh...

[sepulturra]

fuck right-side driving wheel

[KenPliis]

Clio for men, others for girlz

[Ickxz]

I cant believe that none of the critics have search on why the ds3 is so expensive! the reason is cause Citroen wanted quality material, so all the carbon parts are for example made at ferrari!

[Chvija1986]

@Ickxz Oh please, even Ferrari doesnt make carbon parts but order them from company specialized for that... and lets be fair - small carbon parts are not that expensive or necessary, they are just a cool extras that build sky high price for kids

[Ickxz]

@Chvija1986 ferrari dosent make carbon parts......are you serius? ofcourse they make their own carbon parts?? o.o they have specialist in their own factory they don't need other factories. yea they are cool but no not just extras, they actually do help, try going to engineering school so you know what you are talking about.

[Chvija1986]

@Ickxz Yes, I am serious. I knew name of the firm, can ask my profesor if you want to know...

Yes, when crucial parts are made of carbon they make difference but when you add a few carbon parts on dashboard and bonet its not a big deal, only improving cool look...

Well thank you, I am going to faculty of engineering :-)

[tomtomskates6]

Corsa vxr 0-60 in 7.5 seconds? Who drove that?! A pensioner? I got 6.9 seconds with 4 people in mine... And 19 seconds 0-100? I think its nearer 15/16 seconds.

[DanEmmanuel1984]

... It depreciates less than the others. The engine noise is better. It is my opinion but at the same time its fact. If you want a car just for the driving experience then take the RS200. If you want to drive to drive a car that looks quite chavved up then the VXR is the car for you. If you are in the older generation category and you dont care about driving experience then its the Polo GTI(disappointed its only available in DSG). Mini JCW has all round features.

[DanEmmanuel1984]

Certain facts need to be addressed. Citreon DS3R and Mini Cooper JCW does 0-60 in 6.5. Renault Clio 200 in 6.9. Vauxhall Corsa VXR in 6.8 and Polo GTI in 6.9.

My opinion on the issue... Mini JCW is pound for pound the best out of the range. It's the quickest/fastest car to have. The interior is much more focused than the other hatches. Ok, it's not the best to drive, that goes to the RS200, but it's better than the others.

[Chingonshushu]

the clio struggles agaisnt the Mini.....well its french ofcourse it will lol tbh i would take the clio if it wasnt just another "car" but Mini will always be a Mini! legend!

[Chingonshushu]

just behide the Mini........ahhh the it will always be behide the Mini mate

[essentialkick]

clio rs is definitely a better overall car however my money would go to the citroen. depends what you want it for really. looks exotic and has 204bhp.

daily DS3, track days clio. now how many of you guys go to track days often lol

[santclause1]

Also this clio is the 200 with cup chassis. it,s not a 200CUP from the factory. 200CUP is 100kg lighter.better dampers.quicker steering rack. 27 percent stiffer springs. on roads it wouldn,t be massively diffrent. put it on track and 200CUP will be about 2 sec faster than clio 200.with cup chassis.

[mustsilm]

5:41

[VanTheManSLB]

Curious... Chris says that he is a BIG DSG fan but this time he ended up saying that ''it takes you away from the action''

[Beanie2390]

Couldn't agree with him more but to be honest I wouldn't spend my hard earned pennys on any of them. You just dont get decent drivers cars anymore for this amount of money!

[storm0105]

500 Abarth is the best

[Chingonshushu]

@storm0105 hahaha i think you lost your way here mate.....

[d90ju]

Yeah... a long boring face clio with no extras, a depressed dashboard...

The DS3 rocks!

And watch Top Gear 17x02, and see the DS3 leaving away the clio... while listening to a HiFi system and guided by your SatNav

[santclause1]

@d90ju. lol topgear. it,s exactly for retards like you. feed you bullshit so you can go spend 22k on a citreon. don,t you think it,s strange that every magazine or road testers all say clio 200. is the best hothatch money can buy atm? well except topgear who made DS3 there car of year. and made a fake video.

[cookiemonstahxx]

@santclause1 There's speed limitations on the road. DS3 is better looking. enough said.

[santclause1]

@cookiemonstahxx. better looking yes. but like my girlfriend i,m not bothered what she looks like. i just want here to be awsome in the bedroom. get what i mean? clio is a beast and there ain,t nothing under 25k that gives you a pure driving pleasure like the 200cup. fuck looks. only a retard would think like that. where here once so live it get a RENAULTSPORT.

[scoobeydoooo]

@santclause1

I totally know what you mean. Like a girlfriend/wife, I don't choose a car so that it looks good to others as long as it satisfies my needs. However, I would have to slightly disagree with 1 thing. I don't think the Clio RS looks that bad :)

[santclause1]

@scoobeydoooo. yeah i agree. i own a 200cup and i personally prefer the looks. but alot of people think it,s ugly. but it,s not till you see it in person where it,s stance and width looks menancing.

[Chingonshushu]

@santclause1 you dont care what your girl looks like.....jeez cmon now lool i mean i hear you but the classical looks of the Mini cant be beaten simple fact and the tuning package you could do for 2k will kidda wipe the renault with its n/a 2.0 engine....but again you cant argue tastes and colours, everyone has their own.

[KenPliis]

@santclause1 Respect man !

[Ickxz]

@santclause1 haha i dont care about look biggest lie ever! :D

[santclause1]

@Ickxz . i don,t lie faggot. life too short to be weak minded.

[Ickxz]

@santclause1 dear god relax dude, why so angry? i was just kidding. and no im not homosexual.

[MrSmithyboy1990]

Fastest car isn't always the best , proven many times berfore , Proves it with the RS200 Clio

[frape27]

mini jcw is the fastest car here by far,no way clio,this test is a joke

[frape27]

No car from this test is faster than MINI JCW,no way clio,this test is a joke

[Chingonshushu]

@frape27 on a track props yeah...but on normal everyday real life roads nope its not.....well and also how could you beat a legend like Mini ;)

[CambreyGoG]

Interesting reviews. I like him.

[Mixi664]

The citroen DS3 Racing does 0-62 in 6.5 seconds, the Dsport does it in 7.3 seconds. Oh dear, he needs to get his facts right.

[Akshole]

This Guy looks worried when he talks to us, makes me worried too...

[danielnimo]

he invented the words "pazzaz" and "punchy". funny

[kimi982]

Thanks Clio for kicking every arse possible out there! ;-)~

[depechemode4ever1]

Clio Is The best hothatch since the wiliams and still....with all the rs and the next RS williams 237 hp....wait and see

Clio RS is a reall driving machine

[TheChills100]

OMG this guy is so irritating! He's so whiney!

[scooterboi17]

@TheChills100 OMG you wrote OMG WTF!

[yoshidis4]

The mini is definitely in the boring category since so many people have it, it has stopped being "something different".

i would choose the DS3. In white please!

[Chingonshushu]

@yoshidis4 ermmm how can Mini be boring..........its an icon, everywhere u go u get thumbs up and ppl always compliment you, boring LOL ahh u really havent driven one.

[yoshidis4]

@Chingonshushu the old mini is an icon yes!

the new bmw mini is a p.o.s.

[Chingonshushu]

@yoshidis4 well it still has the pedigree so its not pos or whatever ur calling it lol

[fjcbassline]

please renault bring the clio rs to brazil!!!!

[Screamifyoumeanit]

I have a 197, & love it... though I think that it sounds like the DS3 is just waiting for the engine to satisfy the chasis... I am sure that I have heard that somewhere before! Why does the Clio not have 250 hp?

[Joke9972]

The Renault will give you problems all the way, the Citroën might give you problems with electronics, the Polo is not quite good value for money (but he'll keep it), the Mini's interior is still Toysaurus, I wouldn't know what to choose. I like the looks of the DS3 the most. To me it would either be the Polo, the Opel, or the DS3.

[RazvanRO]

@Joke9972 Just so you know i own a clio rs 200. have had it for 2 years and didn't have any problems with it, exept some loose bolt in the door that made some noise when i turned the volume near maximum. Renault sport models are made in France and are engineered by renault's F1 team. They aren't made to fall apart. There must be some with problems but all in all they are have an engine that works spot on

[Joke9972]

@RazvanRO That is true, their engines are very good, no doubt about it, Volvo has been using them for years. Most problems concern electronical devices, or things that hang around the engine. But the heart itself, the Renault engines, just go for miles and miles.

[nevelleven]

He doesnt know shit about cars. Yeah sure he Cooper is better, thats is why Cooper stands somewhere last in rating and citroen DS3 first in the WRC. Citroen is a statement as a carlegend. with 7 times WRC champion almost in a row. Where are those other pussycars Cooper and Renault where he is so fond off. Go talk about it when you know what you have to say, otherwise you are like dumbass. And yes you have to pay more money if you want to drive a car of the champion of the fucking WORLD.

[Skylur45]

@nevelleven Chris Harris is one of the most respected motoring journalists in the world. He's driven more cars than your mother has sucked cocks. I suggest you kindly stfu please.

[Chingonshushu]

@nevelleven LOOL ahahhahahahahha u made me laugh......spastic

[leeedwardsuk]

for the price you would be better going for a focus rs faster better all round and only a grand more than the ds3

[jayrave4]

24k is fucking ridiculous

[Dunkhelzan]

The DS3R 0-62 is supposedly 6.5 according to Citroen themselves.

citroen.co.uk/Resources/Conten­t/GB/pdf/ds3-racing/ds3-racing­-black-tech-spec.pdf

[santclause1]

@Dunkhelzan. according to renasultsport 200cup is 6.4 to 62. but i,m happy for it to do 7sec to 62 allday long. diffrent surface, diffrent weather you,ll get diffrent times.

[PX54]

Polo - plain, Corsa - bland, Clio - boring, Mini - Common (and not mini), DS3r - Unique.

The spec of the DS3 is the reason for the price, it's basically a fully spec DS3 Sport which has been tuned by Citroen Racing and there's only 200 in the UK.

What's wrong with 70mpg in 2nd gear? It can also do 40mph in 6th...

Not in your face? - you're driving the White one that's why - Get the black and Orange one!

[santclause1]

@PX54. clio - boring. are you retarded? 70mph in 2nd gear.lol it,s wrong because that means gear ratio is set too long. hence not made for being a drivers car. you watch top gear and leave the real reviews for real men.

[PX54]

@santclause1 yes boring he say's it himself - "it's lacking some of the interior pazaz I'll give you that, it isn't as much of a quality item" - he comments about the styling why can't I?

Just because it can do 70 in 2nd doesn't mean you have to, the speed limit on UK roads is 70 anyway so why would you be cruising in 2nd gear?

Av MPG: DS3 - 44.1, Mini - 39.8, Clio - 34.5.

CO2: DS3 - 149, Mini - 165, Clio - 190 - meaning the tax and insurance on the DS3 is less.

[santclause1]

@PX54. he says interior is boring. and i agree because i own one. but you made it sound like the car was boring. my 200cup was 14k NEW. whats DS3 R NEW? exactly 8k more lol. so tax and insurance can be less because your paying alot more for the car. you,ll have to own the DS3 R for 6 years before you,ll notice a diffrence in what you get cheaper.lol DS3 R is funky but thats it. best thing out of france is a RENAULTSPORT. nuff said.

[PX54]

@santclause1 like i said before the spec of the DS3 R makes it expensive, if you were to spec up a Cup to similar compared to what you get with the DS3 R it's only £1000 less

[santclause1]

@PX54. you can,t spec up a cup. it,s a cup for a reason. track work.

[Chingonshushu]

@PX54 if you want something cheaper then go get a micra lol

[ministryod10]

Ok so the DS3R has no style.. LOOK AT IT!!!!!

[gaz0044]

The Corsa sucks, the Polo is dull, the DS3 is out there, the Mini is common and the Clio rules but looks awful from the front. Good test.

[CorsaArctic312]

lol love the 0 - 62 times which are wrong on both the corsa and the clio. corsa vxr 6.sec clio 200 6.9 sec. geez what a tard

[CorsaArctic312]

"6.8sec for the corsa lol

[clowesy2000]

@CorsaArctic312 Evo test the 0-60 times themselves rather than feeding you the lies the manufacturers print in the brochure.

[Chingonshushu]

@CorsaArctic312 and on jcw too..

[DARKERTHINGS]

I like Clarkson as an entertainer but for sheer depth of information...how the hell did Ben collins (Stig) get a job on 5th gear before this guy?..this guy is slowly ruining the interest I had in top gear, and in all seriousness....its probably for the best!....

[imgonnafuckuup1]

@DARKERTHINGS yeah absolutely agree. the same happened/is happening to me:)

[Gavin756]

Nicest looking cooper S that I have ever seen!

[gutze101]

lol the citroen look gigantic next to harris

[thanatas]

@gutze101 yea! i was thinking the same ! is this guy a midget? :) or is the ds3 racing so big?

[poertocalla]

@thanatas Its big !!!

[gutze101]

Chris "TV" Harris

[eddnichols1]

clio 200 :)

[thanatas]

nice rewiev, but id chose the mini over the Renault for style reasons

[sax0joe]

Jesus! Didn't realise the corsa was so slow. My 2001 reg saxo is quicker!

[lazakas]

@sax0joe Is your Saxo the VTS 1.6 120ps? :-)

[sax0joe]

@lazakas Indeedy :D

[lazakas]

@sax0joe Great car...Specially for corners! :-)

[sax0joe]

@lazakas Haha yes indeedy...especially with bilstein's, faulkner 155ib springs, top and bottom strut braces and powerflex rear beam mounts :D

Tempted to chop it in for a 182 cup though :S

[lazakas]

@sax0joe 182 cup?

[sax0joe]

@lazakas yeh bit more quality and comfort..

[lazakas]

@sax0joe Yeah! :-) Take care of it! :-)

[lazakas]

@sax0joe yeah!Take care of it! :-)

[Halliday57]

my mum is getin a ds3r. i think black and orange looks better than the white and grey

[davetwigan]

i like this guy, knows his stuff :)

[paramorebean]

i like the citroen better

[hultii]

great review !!

[ollieboi27]

I do love how on pretty much every Chris Harris video on the web, the top comments are never about the cars he's featuring, they're always saying just what a damn good journalist he is!

Yes Monkey!

[bestmusicvideos2010]

he is totaly AGREE! Renault Clio RS rocks!

[georgeflacker]

I think Richard Hammond is going to need a new Job

[Nicknoooo]

A Factory JCW MINI has a 0-60 of 6.5 doesn't?!

[lgreen5]

Now I know why hot hatches don't sell in the US. 0 to 60 in 7.3 seconds? Weak. Why does a french car have a BMW engine? Or is it the other way around?

[Unimokkk]

@lgreen5

Now I know why hot hatches don't sell in the US: Americans like you just don't understand what they are about. Hot hatchbacks aren't about 0-60. Every monkey can go fast in a straight line with an automatic gearbox put in a big block gas hug. Think about it.

[coollattin]

3Would you buy a £100 pair of jeans from Aldi? If you want a £24k posh hatch buy a A3 2.0Tfsi. Renault=hot hatch.

[alernest]

Thanks! Finally a complete review by Harris.

I think Chris Harris and Tim Schrick (I think this latter chap is the best but he speaks German) are the best car journalists in the world.

[themardybum08]

You remind me of Joey from Friends with that Porsche nerd jacket.

[coboisarapatanas]

clio for me two all the wayyy

[whatthehellisaplough]

Corsa vxr 0-60 6.8 seconds..0-100 16.4 seconds! Not such a good journalist!

[TiagoAndreF]

Can agree more, always fantastic job by EVOTV and Chris. Continue like this couse is perfect! Cheers.

Tiago from Portugal,

[filipemasa]

Clio RS!!!

[InStyleDK]

Great great review of five nice cars, good job CH

[HENRYHOBBS1]

the clio 200 does 60 in 6.6,timed by evo mag so it faster than the rest

[AdrianC12345]

The Clio may be super sharp and stuff, but it has nowhere near they style or special feeling of the DS3R. It just doesn't, and I don't see how the Mini is worth they same cash when it isn't that nice inside either.

[nitch003]

Evo is the best car magazine in the world. I am a subscriber for life!

[AdrianosFidi]

The Hot Hatch is the sport car that is cheaper because is smaller , so is no surprice the Clio was the best out of these .

[Dermo1985]

Does anyone know if the Clio RS is dependable, my experiences with Renault have left me with quite a bad taste in my mouth reliability-wise and wonder if they've sorted themselves out?

[danthemanpatrick]

One sweet Porsche jacket. I bet he didn't pay a single pent for it either.

[Raige24]

Started to watch Evo after having Chris Harris mentioned a few times on Jalopnik and on FastLaneDaily. Great review, and even I can appreciate the reviews and the cars as an american.

[megamastah]

EVO is back :)

[DeScRuN]

No one can beat Chris Harris as a car journalist, it's just so interesting to listen to him that you say, he must be true.

[bigmacas]

@DeScRuN No one can beat Jeremy Clarkson as a car journalist...

[seroyer2]

Chirs I love reading your rant on Ferrari on Jalopnik. I can't wait to read more from you on there, Jalopnik is by far my favorite carblog.

[tonicroatia]

brilliant review, also love the clio

and that NA engine just feels a lot more special than those turbo charged ones not to mention you actually hav to work to get some speed out of it and it rewards your effort so nicely

[edmaluf]

thumbs up for "effervescent" at 2:14. kids, you've learned a new word today. As usual, Chris Harris rocks.

[bmancodgta4]

@edmaluf HAHA I was thinking the same. Chris is an outstanding journalist

[Eliano55]

CLIO RS 4 life!

[bmwe92m]

the front of the old clio rs looked much nicer. this one is fugly. what were the renault designers smoking?!

[vash241987]

Why is chris harris such a great car reviewer?

[anotherone10]

Chris Harris is such a great car reviewer.

[Andr3sb]

If you just listen to the specs the clio sounds like an old EK or EG civic type r , still the type r would run circles around everything in this test on a track .

[akomp10]

great review!!!

[mission730]

Very good review , cheers.

[Gamefan232949]

hey Chris, solid work on that ferrari rant at jalopnik. i'm sure your words will shake the ground at maranello. as usual, great review. keep it up man.

[QaisRAK]

since when Citroen make sport cars

[Eliano55]

@QaisRAK Saxo VTS, 306-6, 206 rc, 205 gti, not to mention rally versions of many cars :)

[QaisRAK]

@Eliano55 oh plz do u consider there sport cars

[Manzancene]

Yes! Loved it! This is proper automotive journalism! And Chris, a Porsche Club Motosport jacket?! You are really a Porsche enthusiast! :) Cheers to EVO!

[MattMK45]

Chris Harris is brilliant!

[grechjames]

great review keep it up

[Bravo21]

I like the DS3 , well, just because I like Citroen's. Excellent coverage of the market, Ty...The best reviewer on the web, hands down.

[boy638]

whats YT on this video's title?

[DeDeNoM]

@boy638

YT is for YouTube I think :)

[irlgriff]

Amazing car review thanks.