Joannie has an amazing physique, which enables her to perform with such surity and stability. I think we're going to all have to admit though that her 70 score here was inflated because it was going into Olympic season and everybody was inflating scores to favor their national champions. Anybody a scoring expert out there? What should Joannie's score realistically have been? Personally I think Czisny skated the sp better here. Anyway, Joannie went on to the Olympics to win Bronze!
I'm in love with Joannie's transitions going into all the jumps (they have to be the best internationally), love the choreography, and I love her interpretation and attitude. Great music for her.
Yes she is a fantastic figure skater,but given her competition she did not perform to podium level.She has NEVER placed on the podium on any international level competition before(& probably never will again)& there is a reason for that.Her competition,Kim Yu-Na & Mao Asada are sensational & flawless.Rachel Flatt landed all of her difficult jumps solidly,Joannie almost fell twice.Politics is not supposed to come into play when scoring but in history the scoring has been corrupt & they are human.
@christmaszorro: how did you figure she never made it to the podium on any international event before?! She did 15 times before Vancouver, including wins at Skate Canada, Trophée Éric Bompard and a silver at the Worlds last year! o_O
@christmaszorro before you comment, google JOANNIE ROCHETTE and you will see that SHE HAS BEEN on the podium long before yuna and mao did. FYI: SHE'S RANKED NO.2 in the WORLD, MAO 3rd, YUNA 1st. duh!
She definitely performed well, but I think there was a slight inflation of points due to her homeground advantage. 65~67 points would have made more sense.
True! She had an awful GPF this weekend, but she did last year too. I think her programs are difficult - they push her to an edge. If she can pull it off, she'll get the silver.
I accidentally clicked on "statistics and data" for the first time on my way down to reply to you. Very interesting (and a little amusing) to see which two countries (and Canada and the US aren't either one of them) have been watching this video - and commenting, and downgrading the rating, no doubt!
Hello jamarsano ! I am interested in seeing the statistics you are talking about but can't seem to find the right place to click. Where is it exactly ? thanks !
Joannie's programme was choreographed in such a way as to rake in the points. The foot work connecting into her jumps, the linking of elements, her foot-work (few cross-overs, lots of edges) and speed - all these get her points.
Her lack of risk (no 3-3) means she doesn't lose points unnecessarily trying to beat a skater (Yuna) who is unbeatable at this point.
It's not as exciting as watching Mao skate and wondering if she'll hit an axel. But it rakes in points with elegance and little risk.
I love figure skating and I truely appreciate to see wonderful performances. Whether it is Mao, Yuna, Joannie or Miki, they are all incredible athletes that deserve respect, encouragement and support. It doesn't serve any purpose to post insults or nasty comments. Joannie is not "weird" as you are saying. Having followed her career for the last 7 years, I can say that she is a mature, poised, elegant and generous skater. Congratulations Joannie and I wish you the best !
I've just realized how fabulous the beautiful Joannie must be based on all these nasty comments about her.
Skating fans seem to be terrified she might beat out one or other of their preferred skaters and so they waste time criticizing an incredibly solid performance by Joannie - the second best jump technique in the world after the wunderkind Yu-na, lovely spirals, a spinning boot that travels not an inch, and super-super-super fast foot-and-edge-work - It must be seen live to be appreciated.
C'mon! This program, as solid and well interpreted as It was, didn't enough technical content for Rochette to score that high. Her jumps weren't that impressive and her layback spin was a very weak one (I simply don't understand why she got a level 3 for that one). In general, she was overmarked, I'm sorry to say.
It gets a level-3 because of the way she enters it and the change in shape. Little quirks in the points-code make that possible.
I've seen Joannie live twice. You can't imagine how fast she is and how smooth her footwork looks from above - my seats were nose-bleed, but the effect was great.
Over marked, once again. The last person that got 70 without a 3x3 was sasha cohen. but at least she was a beautiful skater. Can someone please explain to me what the judges possibly see in rochette? i mean seriously, and rochette's obviously NOT in the same level as yuna. not even close. She's not even in the same league as mao, if mao was more consistent. I don't see her as a threat at all, just a boring skater that every judge loves apparently.
Score is given by judges. Everyone knows this and if Joannie had high score more than her performance, fans would talk about judgement. I think you are bashing Korean now. How do you think like that? "Joannie is reasonable because Yu-Na got 76 " Standard is their performance not a competitor.
I'm so speechless. you have to search video of yuna kim. whenever I search yuna kim on youtube, I'm so suprised many japanese uproad distorted or dirty video about only yuna kim. they are so strange and disgusting
@barthes Mao is not disastrous. She is very graceful, unlike other skaters- like the one in Korea who is more technically adaptive than Mao. Mao's spirals are over the top and generally I do not like to see bullies posting nonsense about Mao, Not especially in Joannie's forum
Nice program, but taking a look at her protocols her PCS and the Grade of Execution seems quite a bit higher than usual. (And considering the symbolic meaning of the '70' mark :=|) It would have been better if she stressed certain moves over the other and gave more dynamics to this La Cumparsita (I've enjoyed her summertime program much better) Overall a nice program, but it'll be interesting to see how the judges grade her program at the Grand Prix Finals.
??? dont make a groundless accusation. if u insist like that, i also can say "i saw at 2ch(japanese forum) that MAOTA were talking; lets rewrite the mationality when you attack ROCHETTE" You get it? Those who are doubt about R's score are from all over the countries. i personally recognize some ids who criticized R's score are the same ids who did lots of compliments for japanese skaters. dont make a wrong accusation that they r all koreans. its stupid!!
perfectly understand what u mean. i've seen that korean musician or actor guy say on tv 'whenever i do bad things abroad, i pretend i'm japanese'! i know not all koreans are like that. but lots on youtube write racist stuff about japan & if u say u don't agree they all start jumpin on u like crazy! just imagine this argument bein bout yuna's socres. all hell would break out then!
WOW....I can't believe all of these ridiculous comments! Does anyone realize how hard these athletes work to get where they are. You should be ashamed of yourselves...I can bet these distructive comments are coming from non-athletic people. If anyone is to say things right, i will:
Joannie is gorgeous, and even more so from up close.
She totally deserves the score she got, if not higher. This program is a masterpiece.
I like Joannie. If you see her live, you'll see she's not just muscular, but very flexible and elegant. Still this time, I have to say she was overrated. I don't think she's THAT satisfied with her performance today, and probably knows well that's not enough to beat Yuna. I think Lepisto was much overrated than Joannie this time. I like her alot so it hurts me to have to admit. But most of her points belonged to Zhang and Akiko.
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she is elegant, u dope! bet u've never seen her perform live, lol. okay, maybe her scores were a little high this time, but she doesn't look like a man at all. stop abusing how she looks fgs!
What is with all the hate here? I like that fact that someone else in the skating world is moving up against YuNa, without having the boring piece of crap we call judges and skaters, while YuNa is skating far away from anyone. The fact that Joannie has at least remained competitive so far is a good indicator for the Olympics. At least there will be a challenge for the top.
Yeah, I've got a lot of doubts about the GOE and PCS system. They're all a bunch of subjective views by the judges, that's why each of them often differ on the same performance. And I agree about the 2A. Though I basically think none of the skaters should be awarded that much for a 2A in seniors.
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Further to my comment, I think that people should study how the point system works before criticizing. There are 6 kinds of jumps and they are not worth all the same. A 3 LZ, 2 T like Joannie's is worth 7.3. Because her jumps are fast, powerful and have extraordinary landings, she easily gets 8 or 9 points. A 3F - 3T like Yuna does is worth 9.5. It's not 10 points more, it's only 2.2 points more. Yuna gets 76 points, good for her. Joannie gets 70, great for her 2.
Did you see her scores? Her TES isn't much higher then Czisny's (38.40 and 36,60), but her PCS is 31,60 (Czisny has 26,92)! She won because of her PCS and this is very subjective score! And Virtue/Moir get a huge PCS for their OD instead of her two falls during the programme!
ha funny that might actually happen. I can so see it. Pity I'm canadian i should be supporting my own country's skaters, if they're actually good and they deserve the marks
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Reading all these comments, I can't help but laugh. Who are you people to criticize the panels of international judges. These judges have been evaluating skaters for 20, 30 or 40 years. They know excellent jumping technique and exquisite footwork when they see it. Joannie rochette is one if not the best technical jumper on the women circuit today. She deserves every point that she got. If you prefere another jumper, fine. But stop trying to downgradre Joannie's skating.
i get ur point, but judges do make mistakes sometimes, so i think it's not only fair but important too that everyone can speak out their opinions about the scores, u know. i think joannie did better than alissa, not sure about the scorings, but she definitely deserved to win. bet most people think that way, okay? so plz cool down a bit.
ok, her jump is pretty good, but she doesn't have 3-3. her spins, spiral, step are really nothing special. so why all the sudden her PCS is inflated this much? I don't get it.
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I think Yuna's been performing great. But at the same time I think they're giving her too high points, which resulted in pressuring her at SA FP. But since they've been doing so, I guess they couldn't help giving Joannie 70 for skating clean, even with only a 3-2. Extracting 6 points or so from Yuna's SP at SA, for the 3-2, you're left with something around 70. I think it was too high a score as well, but if you think about what they'd been giving to Yuna, it's not THAT crazy.
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the problem is only KIM and ROCHETTE's scores are inflated all the sudden. What's going on with the judge? Althought i consider nothing wron with skaters, but judges are just terrible.
what was with the judges?! watch Czisny's programme and then this . The judges should have awarded the higher scores to Czisny. I love both skaters, but Rochette is stiffer than Czisny. Their tech content was almost identical, but ALissa's spins & spirals were better. This high score will do a psychological number on Rochette in the future.
PML. Czisny was boring and stiff. Her presentation consisted of smiling throughout the program and a few random hand gestures to the accents of the music. Rochette skated to the music the whole time and had far more complex choreography.
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i think this program really diserved this high score cause she had a enourmes style and shes so graceful on ice amazing triple flip , huge double axel ,good speed in her spins and very very expresive choreography
Her footwork is so slow and ungainly and her spiral sequence leaves a lot to be desired. I can't believe she got 70 for this relatively uninspired program.
To get the 70,Yuna had to the "3+3",steps right before the jump,choreography after and between the jumps, difficulties, qualities,artistry and consistency.I agree that Joannie did the good job but 70? Maybe Yuna won't have to do "3+3" anymore then.I don't dislike Joannie, I'm talking about this professionally. Like I said she did good and beautifully. I'm happy for her but to get 70,there should be more difficulties and challenges I think.
Joannie is a great skater with perfect skating skills but I still don't understand why she received 70 points. Especially when you think about the fact that she didn't get the highest level for all of her elements...
When i read online that she got a 70 i thought wow, she must have finally landed a 3-3 (I remember Yuna's 2007 world SP when she reached the 70's, so maybe Joannie did something close to get those points) But after seeing this program, i feel that the extra points might have come from the positve GOE's of her elements? Anyway, i like the program. very clean! but i personally feel it should be around 68 or 69.
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Good job Joannie~! I think this is one of her best clean programs... Her executions and transitions have really improved since last season. Good going~
She did very well. I give her credit for that. but 70 for triple-double? Something is fishy here... and if you see her personal best scores both SP and FS come from Skate Canada... and I think I've heard that Canada has been caught lobbying the judges.
I mean her season's best was 52.12 and then out of nowhere she scores a 70?
gallantrycross 5 months ago
Joannie has an amazing physique, which enables her to perform with such surity and stability. I think we're going to all have to admit though that her 70 score here was inflated because it was going into Olympic season and everybody was inflating scores to favor their national champions. Anybody a scoring expert out there? What should Joannie's score realistically have been? Personally I think Czisny skated the sp better here. Anyway, Joannie went on to the Olympics to win Bronze!
gallantrycross 5 months ago
I'm in love with Joannie's transitions going into all the jumps (they have to be the best internationally), love the choreography, and I love her interpretation and attitude. Great music for her.
CrimsonVibrato 1 year ago
This really is an incredibly good skate. The spiral she does out of her double axel (on her landing) is so beautiful.
jamarsano 1 year ago
Yes she is a fantastic figure skater,but given her competition she did not perform to podium level.She has NEVER placed on the podium on any international level competition before(& probably never will again)& there is a reason for that.Her competition,Kim Yu-Na & Mao Asada are sensational & flawless.Rachel Flatt landed all of her difficult jumps solidly,Joannie almost fell twice.Politics is not supposed to come into play when scoring but in history the scoring has been corrupt & they are human.
christmaszorro 2 years ago
@christmaszorro: how did you figure she never made it to the podium on any international event before?! She did 15 times before Vancouver, including wins at Skate Canada, Trophée Éric Bompard and a silver at the Worlds last year! o_O
TheBridgetful 1 year ago 2
@christmaszorro So WRONG!! she's the vice champion of the World in 2009!!! she's six times canadian champion!!
jugagXquebec 1 year ago
@christmaszorro before you comment, google JOANNIE ROCHETTE and you will see that SHE HAS BEEN on the podium long before yuna and mao did. FYI: SHE'S RANKED NO.2 in the WORLD, MAO 3rd, YUNA 1st. duh!
pammuskit 1 year ago
I think I'm in love
pilzepie 2 years ago
wow. she rocks. very strong program.
jddanceworks 2 years ago 7
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home advantage
sumimimi0 2 years ago
She definitely performed well, but I think there was a slight inflation of points due to her homeground advantage. 65~67 points would have made more sense.
mydoctor93 2 years ago 2
True! She had an awful GPF this weekend, but she did last year too. I think her programs are difficult - they push her to an edge. If she can pull it off, she'll get the silver.
I accidentally clicked on "statistics and data" for the first time on my way down to reply to you. Very interesting (and a little amusing) to see which two countries (and Canada and the US aren't either one of them) have been watching this video - and commenting, and downgrading the rating, no doubt!
jamarsano 2 years ago 4
Hello jamarsano ! I am interested in seeing the statistics you are talking about but can't seem to find the right place to click. Where is it exactly ? thanks !
RichardLMontreal 2 years ago
They are on this page, underneath where you click to make a video one of your favourites.
"Statistics & Data" - it unfolds when you click.
jamarsano 2 years ago
Great job!! She's so adorable - Makes music come alive every time with her performance!
reokenally 2 years ago 2
Joannie's programme was choreographed in such a way as to rake in the points. The foot work connecting into her jumps, the linking of elements, her foot-work (few cross-overs, lots of edges) and speed - all these get her points.
Her lack of risk (no 3-3) means she doesn't lose points unnecessarily trying to beat a skater (Yuna) who is unbeatable at this point.
It's not as exciting as watching Mao skate and wondering if she'll hit an axel. But it rakes in points with elegance and little risk.
jamarsano 2 years ago
I think her landings should be worked to get more natural....
s612h 2 years ago
no, not that high
bendonna 2 years ago
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WEIRD CHAMPION!
huigomi 2 years ago
I love figure skating and I truely appreciate to see wonderful performances. Whether it is Mao, Yuna, Joannie or Miki, they are all incredible athletes that deserve respect, encouragement and support. It doesn't serve any purpose to post insults or nasty comments. Joannie is not "weird" as you are saying. Having followed her career for the last 7 years, I can say that she is a mature, poised, elegant and generous skater. Congratulations Joannie and I wish you the best !
RichardLMontreal 2 years ago 2
I've just realized how fabulous the beautiful Joannie must be based on all these nasty comments about her.
Skating fans seem to be terrified she might beat out one or other of their preferred skaters and so they waste time criticizing an incredibly solid performance by Joannie - the second best jump technique in the world after the wunderkind Yu-na, lovely spirals, a spinning boot that travels not an inch, and super-super-super fast foot-and-edge-work - It must be seen live to be appreciated.
jamarsano 2 years ago 4
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collegeguy15 2 years ago
you must be one of the judges at skate canada. Is this what you guys were taught to think before the competition?
collegeguy15 2 years ago
No, I'm not a judge. I used to skate, but so does every little Canadian girl - we're forced to.
I just know that this is a better programme than the one last year at worlds.
That programme was scored in the high 60s, so a mark of 70 wasn't a shock.
Do you think last year's programme was better?
jamarsano 2 years ago
C'mon! This program, as solid and well interpreted as It was, didn't enough technical content for Rochette to score that high. Her jumps weren't that impressive and her layback spin was a very weak one (I simply don't understand why she got a level 3 for that one). In general, she was overmarked, I'm sorry to say.
JCSAMEX 2 years ago
Actually, I agree about the lay-back.
It gets a level-3 because of the way she enters it and the change in shape. Little quirks in the points-code make that possible.
I've seen Joannie live twice. You can't imagine how fast she is and how smooth her footwork looks from above - my seats were nose-bleed, but the effect was great.
jamarsano 2 years ago
besides there is mao's fan prentending like yuna's fan. like when they pretend like chinese when they post ugly yuna bashing vids.
qorwldbs1 2 years ago 4
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you mean japanese mao's fan? prove that koreans did it! you racist!
qorwldbs1 2 years ago
Over marked, once again. The last person that got 70 without a 3x3 was sasha cohen. but at least she was a beautiful skater. Can someone please explain to me what the judges possibly see in rochette? i mean seriously, and rochette's obviously NOT in the same level as yuna. not even close. She's not even in the same league as mao, if mao was more consistent. I don't see her as a threat at all, just a boring skater that every judge loves apparently.
sunstripes 2 years ago
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Korean yuna fans are bashing joannie at this time.lol You are always busy bashing other skaters:P Joannie's score is NEVER overmarked.
Yuna kim got 76!! If yuna's score is ok,
joannie's score is ok, too.
Rachmaniyokonov 2 years ago
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Score is given by judges. Everyone knows this and if Joannie had high score more than her performance, fans would talk about judgement. I think you are bashing Korean now. How do you think like that? "Joannie is reasonable because Yu-Na got 76 " Standard is their performance not a competitor.
Anyway, congratulation Joannie~^^
hahassong 2 years ago 17
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>barthes
You really look like you have a fever.
korean's kimchi Fever ?
ckromeckrome 2 years ago
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lol
shame on you. korean yuna fans are always bashing mao with ugly comments....:P
Rachmaniyokonov 2 years ago
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@Rachmaniyokonov
I'm so speechless. you have to search video of yuna kim. whenever I search yuna kim on youtube, I'm so suprised many japanese uproad distorted or dirty video about only yuna kim. they are so strange and disgusting
kathrin0515 2 years ago 22
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uproad? ROFL
JtvClipz 2 years ago
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Her score is simply overmarked. without 3-3, over 70 is impossible.
She skate a bit slow. Her jumps are ordinary, and her spins and spiral don't look great AT ALL.
Canadian money~~
pricekingfeed 2 years ago
I strongly disagree with your comment.
I do not understand why you take a Korean skater..
Just enjoy Joannie's beautiful skating.
otlovemh 2 years ago 2
ISU, We need JUSTICE! PC score to low
of Nagasu, Suzuki and Zhang!
huigomi 2 years ago 2
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hnji96
It's true about Koreans forum.
please read my profile and click the URL.
(there is koreans forum's copy)
I know that not all koreans do such stupid action,but some koreans did actually.
usamochi 2 years ago
why are you talking about Koreans watching Joannie's SP? you guys are very intentional. Please take care of your disastrous Mao princess :)
barthes 2 years ago 14
@barthes Mao is not disastrous. She is very graceful, unlike other skaters- like the one in Korea who is more technically adaptive than Mao. Mao's spirals are over the top and generally I do not like to see bullies posting nonsense about Mao, Not especially in Joannie's forum
waddleduckie1 1 year ago
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I like ROCHETTE's this program. And I love Mao.
So, I cannot endure that some Korean YUNA fans attack ROCHETTE by a dirty way (disguised one's nationality,pretend to be MAO fan).
If Korean fans are really proud of YUNA, they should be confidently.
And judges should be impartial in all skaters.
I wish all skater's luck.
usamochi 2 years ago
Nice program, but taking a look at her protocols her PCS and the Grade of Execution seems quite a bit higher than usual. (And considering the symbolic meaning of the '70' mark :=|) It would have been better if she stressed certain moves over the other and gave more dynamics to this La Cumparsita (I've enjoyed her summertime program much better) Overall a nice program, but it'll be interesting to see how the judges grade her program at the Grand Prix Finals.
45in3 2 years ago 6
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qorwldbs1 2 years ago
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A lot of Koreans who disguised one's nationality and YUNA fans that pretend the MAO fan are here.
I saw at korean's forum that YUNA fans were talking "Let's rewrite the nationality when you attack ROCHETTE "
Don't insult skaters by dirty way!
usamochi 2 years ago
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Han4784 2 years ago
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??? dont make a groundless accusation. if u insist like that, i also can say "i saw at 2ch(japanese forum) that MAOTA were talking; lets rewrite the mationality when you attack ROCHETTE" You get it? Those who are doubt about R's score are from all over the countries. i personally recognize some ids who criticized R's score are the same ids who did lots of compliments for japanese skaters. dont make a wrong accusation that they r all koreans. its stupid!!
hnji96 2 years ago 8
hnji96/ Just don;t feed the trolls;; It's not like people actually believe them.
45in3 2 years ago 10
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perfectly understand what u mean. i've seen that korean musician or actor guy say on tv 'whenever i do bad things abroad, i pretend i'm japanese'! i know not all koreans are like that. but lots on youtube write racist stuff about japan & if u say u don't agree they all start jumpin on u like crazy! just imagine this argument bein bout yuna's socres. all hell would break out then!
shikakeya 2 years ago
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ISU judges are crazy . They really love Yuna and Joannie . very unfair
lovemaoooo 2 years ago
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lol.. what about your love mao???????????lol... made tons of mistakes but PCS goes up up up~~~~~~~ hahaha
ty1234 2 years ago 23
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i cant agree with ty1234 more. watch mao's performance in russia again. she's got the highest pcs score (59.XX) inspite of her poor performance.
hnji96 2 years ago 20
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jamarsano 2 years ago 7
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LOL, another crazy Mao fan. they don't have any right to accuse other skaters.
smilejc85 2 years ago 19
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MyStepa 2 years ago
I love her performances as always.
So powerful and smooth
But after i've checked the SP protocol, i was pretty shocked with GOE on her SlSq
She got all +2 GOEs on her step sequence...
SlSq Lv.3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
That's too much....lol
Anyway, She did a good job...
Here is Skate Canada.
laurakml 2 years ago 11
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A lot of silly comments above...
the program is AWESOME! Fast, with beautifull and dificult coreography!
I´m not hooke on Joanie but this SP is great!!!
volvob10m 2 years ago
this was good...but not a 70 good.
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kyotofukyotosi 2 years ago
Joannie looks nothing like a man, nor a little stick-like girl, but like a woman (which is what she should look like).
Yes she is not perfect all the time, but she is human, and that's what makes her so much more interesting.
What has this world come to? I hope you will reconsider your comments or get a life
sushiskates 2 years ago 4
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WOW....I can't believe all of these ridiculous comments! Does anyone realize how hard these athletes work to get where they are. You should be ashamed of yourselves...I can bet these distructive comments are coming from non-athletic people. If anyone is to say things right, i will:
Joannie is gorgeous, and even more so from up close.
She totally deserves the score she got, if not higher. This program is a masterpiece.
sushiskates 2 years ago
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sushiskates 2 years ago
このロシア人のアナウンサーはやはりいい。
uliyana777 2 years ago
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She is so ugly.
ejjk1007 2 years ago
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Joannie is not ugly at all.
How dare you make such a comment.
You go around bashing all the skaters except Yuna.
And when I point that out, you use your other IDs to vote+ for yourself and - for mine!
It's getting too obvious.
Yuna does not benifit from having a person like you as a fan.
Have some more respect for other skaters.
And stop pretending you favor Akiko.
You compliment her only to make other skaters look bad.
She would despise a person like you.
GondorffHenry 2 years ago
I like Joannie. If you see her live, you'll see she's not just muscular, but very flexible and elegant. Still this time, I have to say she was overrated. I don't think she's THAT satisfied with her performance today, and probably knows well that's not enough to beat Yuna. I think Lepisto was much overrated than Joannie this time. I like her alot so it hurts me to have to admit. But most of her points belonged to Zhang and Akiko.
PochinkoPotanko 2 years ago 3
her reaction say it all, she couldn't believe it herself
collegeguy15 2 years ago 3
the olympic will be in Canada thats why!
collegeguy15 2 years ago 7
LOL. Rochette's PC score is 31.6 and
Mirai's only 24,Caroline and Suzuki 's poor23, judges, please let me know what's going on here?
huigomi 2 years ago 10
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she looks like a man. why is she so musular, i thought skters were more elegant.
dollbaby436 2 years ago
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she is elegant, u dope! bet u've never seen her perform live, lol. okay, maybe her scores were a little high this time, but she doesn't look like a man at all. stop abusing how she looks fgs!
shikakeya 2 years ago
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Good job!
duckling1015 2 years ago
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she has got to be the most overrated, overscored skater in history
bendonna 2 years ago 15
What is with all the hate here? I like that fact that someone else in the skating world is moving up against YuNa, without having the boring piece of crap we call judges and skaters, while YuNa is skating far away from anyone. The fact that Joannie has at least remained competitive so far is a good indicator for the Olympics. At least there will be a challenge for the top.
smartskater1 2 years ago 3
hate? please, great performance, but not worth the hate, and definitely not the score.
collegeguy15 2 years ago 5
No no no! That would be Costner.
I think 70 was too high, but I've seen Joannie skate live, and she is really good.
PochinkoPotanko 2 years ago 6
you have a point, but her GOE scores should not be 1.8 on double axel and triple flip! and her SS scores almost in the 8's?
bendonna 2 years ago 3
Yeah, I've got a lot of doubts about the GOE and PCS system. They're all a bunch of subjective views by the judges, that's why each of them often differ on the same performance. And I agree about the 2A. Though I basically think none of the skaters should be awarded that much for a 2A in seniors.
PochinkoPotanko 2 years ago 3
Не понятно за что 70 баллов, за агрессивно мощные прышки или за каскад 3+2? Тянут Рошетт... буквально за уши
AASK286 2 years ago 4
Турнир на "своей" территории, я думаю в этом ответ... Чего стОят и сегодняшние оценки в других дисциплинах!
Ireni0 2 years ago
@AASK286 Так нада
Pujardoff1 1 year ago
that was a good performance, but a 70??
her pcs mark is onlly one mark difference with yuna's dancse macabre in the world final championships in 2009. whoa~ talk about home advantage.
507chae 2 years ago 13
what's going on here???? 70???!!!!!!!!
lasofiaromana 2 years ago 5
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Further to my comment, I think that people should study how the point system works before criticizing. There are 6 kinds of jumps and they are not worth all the same. A 3 LZ, 2 T like Joannie's is worth 7.3. Because her jumps are fast, powerful and have extraordinary landings, she easily gets 8 or 9 points. A 3F - 3T like Yuna does is worth 9.5. It's not 10 points more, it's only 2.2 points more. Yuna gets 76 points, good for her. Joannie gets 70, great for her 2.
RichardLMontreal 2 years ago
Did you see her scores? Her TES isn't much higher then Czisny's (38.40 and 36,60), but her PCS is 31,60 (Czisny has 26,92)! She won because of her PCS and this is very subjective score! And Virtue/Moir get a huge PCS for their OD instead of her two falls during the programme!
taezrqry 2 years ago 12
LOL.70?! If judges use this way
let Joannie on the podium of Olympic 2010, I'll not watching figure skating again!
huigomi 2 years ago
ha funny that might actually happen. I can so see it. Pity I'm canadian i should be supporting my own country's skaters, if they're actually good and they deserve the marks
sunstripes 2 years ago
Just like I'm American and I have no problem understanding that she is way better then the Americans. :)
Uglefanatikeren 2 years ago 3
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Reading all these comments, I can't help but laugh. Who are you people to criticize the panels of international judges. These judges have been evaluating skaters for 20, 30 or 40 years. They know excellent jumping technique and exquisite footwork when they see it. Joannie rochette is one if not the best technical jumper on the women circuit today. She deserves every point that she got. If you prefere another jumper, fine. But stop trying to downgradre Joannie's skating.
RichardLMontreal 2 years ago
i get ur point, but judges do make mistakes sometimes, so i think it's not only fair but important too that everyone can speak out their opinions about the scores, u know. i think joannie did better than alissa, not sure about the scorings, but she definitely deserved to win. bet most people think that way, okay? so plz cool down a bit.
shikakeya 2 years ago 4
Boring...Not something I want to watch more than once.
jessiewh 2 years ago 7
can't believe it. ppl go watch Alissa CZISNY performance...and check PCS scores.
wirelessme 2 years ago 6
ok, her jump is pretty good, but she doesn't have 3-3. her spins, spiral, step are really nothing special. so why all the sudden her PCS is inflated this much? I don't get it.
smilejc85 2 years ago 17
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Oh yeah YuNa's is so much better? I don't see anyone complaining about YuNa's ugly spirals or spins.
smartskater1 2 years ago
This time i agree with you.
huigomi 2 years ago
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and Yuna Kim deserves 76?
shineluvslambiel 2 years ago
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I think Yuna's been performing great. But at the same time I think they're giving her too high points, which resulted in pressuring her at SA FP. But since they've been doing so, I guess they couldn't help giving Joannie 70 for skating clean, even with only a 3-2. Extracting 6 points or so from Yuna's SP at SA, for the 3-2, you're left with something around 70. I think it was too high a score as well, but if you think about what they'd been giving to Yuna, it's not THAT crazy.
PochinkoPotanko 2 years ago
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Jooye87 2 years ago
honestly, 68 may be acceptable.
smilejc85 2 years ago 8
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the problem is only KIM and ROCHETTE's scores are inflated all the sudden. What's going on with the judge? Althought i consider nothing wron with skaters, but judges are just terrible.
12fanatic12 2 years ago
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smilejc85 2 years ago
what was with the judges?! watch Czisny's programme and then this . The judges should have awarded the higher scores to Czisny. I love both skaters, but Rochette is stiffer than Czisny. Their tech content was almost identical, but ALissa's spins & spirals were better. This high score will do a psychological number on Rochette in the future.
nadador64 2 years ago 2
PML. Czisny was boring and stiff. Her presentation consisted of smiling throughout the program and a few random hand gestures to the accents of the music. Rochette skated to the music the whole time and had far more complex choreography.
shineluvslambiel 2 years ago
70??mi sembra un po troppo come punteggio!!
la trottola rovesciata non era un granchè e gli angeli non erano molto veloce mah!!
lisaa86 2 years ago 2
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i think this program really diserved this high score cause she had a enourmes style and shes so graceful on ice amazing triple flip , huge double axel ,good speed in her spins and very very expresive choreography
limide 2 years ago
Her footwork is so slow and ungainly and her spiral sequence leaves a lot to be desired. I can't believe she got 70 for this relatively uninspired program.
ClaudinesWorld 2 years ago 4
if 70-where is 3-3?
Anyway-Woman on ice,great to watch!
b2367 2 years ago 9
To get the 70,Yuna had to the "3+3",steps right before the jump,choreography after and between the jumps, difficulties, qualities,artistry and consistency.I agree that Joannie did the good job but 70? Maybe Yuna won't have to do "3+3" anymore then.I don't dislike Joannie, I'm talking about this professionally. Like I said she did good and beautifully. I'm happy for her but to get 70,there should be more difficulties and challenges I think.
soozaybmm 2 years ago 10
okay. this can not be 70, 68.50 is enough even though it's in Canada and she is Canadian.
wirelessme 2 years ago 6
Congrat to Joanne. She was awesome. But ..70? Wow~
sjboy10090 2 years ago 9
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sundriver 2 years ago
Joannie is a great skater with perfect skating skills but I still don't understand why she received 70 points. Especially when you think about the fact that she didn't get the highest level for all of her elements...
1penfriend11 2 years ago 16
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とても素晴らしい演技だったと思います。好きな選手ですし、オリンピックでも活躍してほしいと思っています。でも70点は出すぎじゃないでしょうか？個人的には66点くらいが妥当かと。昨年からキム・ヨナとジョアニー・ロシェットの点数が異常に出すぎているように感じます。カナダ人とカナダ人コーチの二人・・・・
takataka0911 2 years ago
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sancurotte 2 years ago
sancurotte
お前は黄色人種ではないのか？
頭は大丈夫か？
saremu 2 years ago
hey. don't include Yuna Kim. There are clearly huge difference between Yuna's performance and Joannie's.
sjboy10090 2 years ago 17
When i read online that she got a 70 i thought wow, she must have finally landed a 3-3 (I remember Yuna's 2007 world SP when she reached the 70's, so maybe Joannie did something close to get those points) But after seeing this program, i feel that the extra points might have come from the positve GOE's of her elements? Anyway, i like the program. very clean! but i personally feel it should be around 68 or 69.
oracle176188 2 years ago 16
No wonder considering that this is skate canada and she is canadian
ics2222 2 years ago 18
Looking forward to GPF and it will be very interesting. I just can't help laughing. I feel like something is going on......
xerxes343 2 years ago 12
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Good job Joannie~! I think this is one of her best clean programs... Her executions and transitions have really improved since last season. Good going~
sexygirljo 2 years ago
what the hell.......... 70??
LondonFFF 2 years ago 16
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Uglefanatikeren 2 years ago
3-2でスピードのない選手がこの程度の演技をして70点。
これなら2007ワールドのコストナーは80点を貰ってもいいくらいだろうな。
札幌五輪でのシューバとマグヌッセンの件や、
レークプラシッド五輪でのペッチとフラチアニの件、
ソルトレイク五輪でのペア問題。
北米が関わると必ずおかしなことが起きる。
sanmenkiji 2 years ago 13
She did very well. I give her credit for that. but 70 for triple-double? Something is fishy here... and if you see her personal best scores both SP and FS come from Skate Canada... and I think I've heard that Canada has been caught lobbying the judges.
Lulzparty 2 years ago 38