and tell me... How can a F-14A attack a ship? With Exocet? or what??? stop this bullshit about "IT WAS A THREAT!" Even Identified as F-14 it had no danger for a ship!
@soco13466 F-14A dont have the equipment and CAN NOT carry the ordnance necessary to even hurt a ship. the only threat of an f-14A for a ship is to Kamikaze in the ship or hit it with 20mm cannon which can't even hurt a modern war ship. and with conditions of that time of Iran, it was foolishness to kamikaze even an obsolete f-5... none of the missiles that F-14A can carry are capable of even homing a ship
@mehrdadtube1 yet who's to say some Islamic religious fanatic wouldn't crash one into our ships? Islam is another way of being irrational and insane; that's why we don't trust them to have the nukes. It's bad enough the Pakis have them, and it's a saving grace that saner people (Israel, India) have counter-nukes to keep them at bay. Face it; islam is insanity mass style.
@mehrdadtube1 because of CIWS no plane is even able of crashing itself into any modern warship. and even monkeys know that they shouldnt crash f-14 which Iran had about only 50 of them into a ship... f-4 is a lot better for kamikaze. I agree Islamists are insane, but over prouded militaries of west are more insane... look how many died on that plane or in iraq... WE HUMEN NEED TO CHANGE and praise peace and love.
And to this peice of shit (humanghaffari) below here= Who do you think you are, We make mistakes becouse we are human, not becouse were American! Are you serious?! You say becouse we are afraid! Were pussys?! What? were you one of the shitfucks on one of those Boghammers?! Did you have family on Iran Flt. 655?! Let ME show YOU how afraid and a pussy I am motherfucker. :(
@jeremy45042 - In 1953, the US overthrew the democratically elected government of Iranian PM Mohammad Mossadeq and installed the Shah. During the Iran-Iraq war, the US provided Iraq with billions of dollars in economic aid, dual-use technology, military weaponry, intelligence, Special Operations training, and was directly involved in the war against Iran. In 1988, the USS Vincennes murdered 290 civilians. The US has engaged in acts of war and aggression against Iran since 1953. Give me a break!
This was a civilian airliner attack just ;like the 4 attacks on 9/11 AND THE ATTACK OF EGYPT AIR990 after take off from NYC. but you never heard that one befor,yes thats right there were attacks on the US with civilian airliners BEFORE 9/11/01 !!!!
This was a civilian airliner attack just ;like the 4 attacks on 9/11 AND THE ATTACK OF EGYPT AIR990 after take off from NYC. but you never heard that one befor,yes thats right there were attacks on the US with civilian airliners BEFORE 9/11/01 !!!!1
This was a civilian airliner attack just ;like the 4 attacks on 9/11 AND THE ATTACK OF EGYPT AIR990 after take off from NYC. (but you never heard that one befor,yes thats right there were attacks on the US with civilian airliners BEFORE 9/11/01 !!!!1
This was not an accident or mistaken identity, we know now the Vincennes was as much as 20 nautical miles in Iranian waters. This was terrorism. Oh, wait, we are fighting terrorism, they are the terrorists. Sorry, forgot!
Fuck me you americans are so full of shit. Amercians are either liers or DUMB AS FUCK. According to this americans are dumb as fuck. i feel sorry for you yanks. BTW not many in the world like you, i wonder why? one day...one day you will pay.
Fucking ballshit. No one believes the Americans. They are fucking liers. F14 speed like a commercial aircraft hehehe.
This film deosn't make Iranians forget what they did. If fucking american are serious about what they said so why did they promote USS warship captain after the attack?
wtf? those assholes killed so many innocent people and I dont think that they were even ashamed of it. America should be proud if these heros!!! cirme seems to be ok if victims are not american!
let me preface this comment with a statement i want to make clear: the loss of iranian lives was tragic. mistakes were made.
that said... what kind of pilot would fly INTO A WAR ZONE, especially with a ship being attacked the previous day, and not monitor every frequency & display the correct ID?
you fucking cheaters! do you think people will believe this fucking bullshits?!! fuck off dudes! if you have balls upload the real videos which shows the real purposes of this attack to an innocent airbus with 290 passengers on it! i don't know how these mother fuckers can live their life in the past 22 years! just trust me NO ONES GONNA BELIEVE YOUR FUCKING IDIOT LIES !
Americans look like so happy when they killed the civilians ,
yes every time there is a way to kill in legal way ,
when civilians move, you can say , oh they are troops and may attack me and i am in danger and then decide to kill them all , and got a medal as hero !!
It still doesn't explain how the hell Iran got those F14s. The F14 line was brand new, even in '88. Their first flight was in '74, then in '78, Iran somehow acquired them? And why the hell is the US government selling these aircraft to a country like Iran, especially since they, allegedly, struck a warship, in Iranian waters (what the fuck where they doing there in the first place?), from the US. So basically, the US is fucking their own with their own hardware.
Don't tell me the idiots on that war ship didn't know that F-14 is a air superiority interceptor fighter ,not a ground attack fighter like the F-4 phantom !
the relationships stay mutual. the USS Vincennce provided plenty of time for the plane to respond. It did not, by code this faced a threat, and remedial actions must have taken place. Who to blame? The pilots, for not responding, or the technology, for not picking up the signal.
civillian planes are huge in comparison they fly withing the designated corridor constant speed fighters are Very different BBC news 24 a us military intelligence officer resigned in discust at what the us navy did n spoke on the BBC hesaid we deliberately shot it down to intice them to retaliate but they didn't take th bait all this is BS propaganda by the us as they did with the Liberty us navy ship attacked by israel to blame egypt BS iranian plane was flying at constant height n speed
You guys all hate the us. They are not good people but if they where not here the germans would have controled the whole world. Ow and i think it was the USS Vincense fault
haha thats funny, but anyway you cant label us people based on this, this is the US military, they dont represent everyday citizens beliefs.......as for the video, a ship was bombed a year before...this is just what happens in wars, once it starts its hard to stop, because everyone is on their toes about who might attack next....
@jjjhs08 A ship was bombed on the Persian Gulf a year before? Well, gee, who was it that bombed it and did we go to war with them? Because as far as I know, there's no record of going to war with anyone back in '87 and '88 in the Middle East.
So, can you please back up that claim with factual, positive-proof evidence before you shout it out with obnoxiousness and ignorance? Like the men on the ship that shot down the airliner that got medals for their so-called 'brabery'?
just what the FUCK was the US Navy doing in the Persian Gulf? What the hell were they doing on Iranian waters? They clearly violated international law right there! They were stationed illegally on iranian water! This shows us just how much arrogant the US government can get, acting as if they were the rulers of the world and dictate everything. Did I mention already they got medals for it? Yeah, I did.
So, hot-shot, care to explain this and back it up? It'd help a lot.
@ArcanineKing you obviously didnt read what i said, i never intended to back up the US govt..my point was to defend us citizens such as myself because we are for themost part normal good people, aside from the moronic racist hateful citizens, which every country has some of....
sure the government did horrible things, im not trying to back them up, all i said, which ill say again is, nobodies hands are clean...the end
@ArcanineKing and why did you call me a hot-shot? how did anything i say come across that way...haha...all i really said was nobody is fully innocent and everyone is a little guilty...whats hotshot about that ? weird....
@jjjhs08 I don't know. You seemed like you were defending the majority of the US's doing, and by US, I mean the Government. So if it appeared I was attacking the US Citizens and, yeah, you, I apologize.
But I've only spoken against the US government, although, even the mass media seems corrupt as well as to hide most of what happens around the world, or try to be as biased as possible to get support from the public, because sadly, most people in the US believe the News is real, and true.
@ArcanineKing no worries, hard to communicate perfectly on the internet as opposed to in person..when i mentioned the other sides wrongdoings, it was not to defend the US govt, simply to state war is a vicious cycle
anyhow, you are correct, most people do believe the news is true, and the ones that dont, believe nothing and are conspiracy maniacs...i like to just focus on my life and not get into all the hype
and im glad you realize us citizens differ from us govt, many people dont haha :)
@jjjhs08 Yeah. Most people from other countries believe it is the Government that is degrading it's people, and lie to them about everything 'going well'. I am not American, but I live in the US. I have the right to be criticizing about the way people do things like every single person here. What bothers me though, is just how obnoxious some people can get. They say nothing's wrong with the way things are handled there, yet they see just how much wrongdoing their government do.
@ArcanineKing Thats one thing I strongly agree with, many Americans like to trash immigrants saying they don't have a right to criticize anything thats American because they aren't from here, which I think is a bunch of BS...they are just being sensitive and defensive and thats the best response they can come up with...cant take a little criticism, besides, why would I have to get defensive of my government? Its not me, its my government, I really dont care what people say about them haha
@jjjhs08 As for your conspiracy theorists, some of them could bring some incredible points that no one's overlooked. Like the Bilderberg Group. At first, we all thought it was a conspiracy whacko theory about some big corporate take-over of the nation, and we all thought Bilderberg didn't exist because of it. That was until a few years later, we learned of them through the media as they were being introduced. Then we have North American Union theory, which is slowly being exposed by stock market
@ArcanineKing but you are correct, many conspiracy theories are true..just some people take it too far, not with the things they say, but how they go about it...they let it take over their lives and that itself, is falling for all the hype and forgetting they only have one life to live and focusing on being happy.
I cant deny there are incredible amounts of moronic hateful Americans as well, as you will see browsing youtube for a day...its sad, right now I live in peru, I like it more :)
@jjjhs08 NAU is being exposed by stock market television because they're talking about the change of currency from the US dollar to the Amero, which we both know is the future currency of the NAU. If the NAU really does succeed, not only would the economy fix itself, but it'll shred the constitution and everything this country stood on.
That's why I look off the bias on the media, and try to find the real facts, whether it be on the net, or in books, or on some media sources where they slip up.
@jjjhs08 It really doesn't take a genius to figure out something wrong is really going on. If we have not had conspiracy nuts telling us all sorts of things, we wouldn't know of these things and investigated ourselves, only to find out some of those things they say is true.
@ArcanineKing haha that is true...im talking about actual NUTS...people who spend all days of their lives and drive themself insane with the stuff...the type of people who spend the whole day approaching randoms strangers on the streets to tell them about how the government is planning on murdering the entire country...we have a lot of those out here in the USA haha its pretty funny,
But exactly, it doesnt take a genius to figure out something is wrong, that's what i tell them
i like how thy try to paint the US in a good picture by showing Captain Rogers to have his hands tied and reluctantly striking the plane. The reallity is so different.
The warship was in IRANIAN waters fighting IRANIAN defence ships shooting down an aircraft in IRANIAN airspace. And with the best radar tech in the world i fail to believe that they didnt know that wasnt a airliner. The sheer size of the blob should have made it blindingly obvious!!
yeah I'm gonna have to agree with impartial1 here. How could the US just not know they were coming? they were traveling on a standard air route in a plane 10x bigger than an F14, and they were communicating with ATC like any other airliner that travels that route
It is often overlooked that the Vincennes drove into Iranian territorial waters and then opened fire on the Iranian gunboats. So there was no 'war going on', it was an aggressive action of the USA from begin with.
this is failure of judgment.. i hope you can sleep well in the night,, you cannot get away of this,, you murdered the inocent people and pretend protecting your ship.. the judgement is very shamefull to the us navy ship.. they are criminals not a heroes so stop giving medals to the murderer..where is your consciens... you must bring to jail and suffer your wrong judgement.. fucks.. you no heart..
this is embarasing to the captain,, a whole navy ship are treat as criminals, one, they are put in a wrong judgement un profesional,, and no consciens at all eat your medals and suffer after your death... shame on you,, its better to kill 290 people and gets medalss,, that is very good for the us ... your murder inocent civillians.. and trying to protect your own wrong doing.. what the fucks... you ... your criminals..
Commanders on Vincent should be convicted as criminals. Vincent could change their position to be out of flight path of "mysterious" plane, but they didn't as like always they think they have the right to everything and everyone's life. 290 people liked because of a selfish nation who are paying back the crimes they commited globally. God bless the souls that were lost for no reason. thanks for posting this video
simplefact4u ; this film is a pack of lies, read wikipedia article "Iran Air flight 655" and see the edidence for yourself; this was a pure murder by the Americans.
1- USS Vincense and the civilian airliner, both were in Iranian water.
2- US wanted to get involve in war with Iran. It was the best time for US to get ride of Islamic government. US would be happy, if Iran retaliated for killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard, including 66 children.
3- This redicelous to think, US did not know and did not monitored civilian airliner.
4-At the end, all USS Vincense crew get medal for their mistakes.
End The Fed
kevin05 2 days ago
and tell me... How can a F-14A attack a ship? With Exocet? or what??? stop this bullshit about "IT WAS A THREAT!" Even Identified as F-14 it had no danger for a ship!
mehrdadtube1 2 months ago
@mehrdadtube1 A fighter plane can't attack a ship?
soco13466 1 week ago
@soco13466 a fighter plane can attack a ship like HMS Sheffield... F-14A CANT ATTACK A SHIP.
mehrdadtube1 1 week ago
@soco13466 F-14A dont have the equipment and CAN NOT carry the ordnance necessary to even hurt a ship. the only threat of an f-14A for a ship is to Kamikaze in the ship or hit it with 20mm cannon which can't even hurt a modern war ship. and with conditions of that time of Iran, it was foolishness to kamikaze even an obsolete f-5... none of the missiles that F-14A can carry are capable of even homing a ship
mehrdadtube1 1 week ago
@mehrdadtube1 yet who's to say some Islamic religious fanatic wouldn't crash one into our ships? Islam is another way of being irrational and insane; that's why we don't trust them to have the nukes. It's bad enough the Pakis have them, and it's a saving grace that saner people (Israel, India) have counter-nukes to keep them at bay. Face it; islam is insanity mass style.
soco13466 1 week ago
@mehrdadtube1 because of CIWS no plane is even able of crashing itself into any modern warship. and even monkeys know that they shouldnt crash f-14 which Iran had about only 50 of them into a ship... f-4 is a lot better for kamikaze. I agree Islamists are insane, but over prouded militaries of west are more insane... look how many died on that plane or in iraq... WE HUMEN NEED TO CHANGE and praise peace and love.
mehrdadtube1 1 week ago
This is US side of the what happen **cough bs**
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rezaraiesie 3 months ago
And to this peice of shit (humanghaffari) below here= Who do you think you are, We make mistakes becouse we are human, not becouse were American! Are you serious?! You say becouse we are afraid! Were pussys?! What? were you one of the shitfucks on one of those Boghammers?! Did you have family on Iran Flt. 655?! Let ME show YOU how afraid and a pussy I am motherfucker. :(
aserna32 3 months ago
@jeremy45042 YES Thank you Mr. jeremy45042!!
aserna32 3 months ago
@jeremy45042 - In 1953, the US overthrew the democratically elected government of Iranian PM Mohammad Mossadeq and installed the Shah. During the Iran-Iraq war, the US provided Iraq with billions of dollars in economic aid, dual-use technology, military weaponry, intelligence, Special Operations training, and was directly involved in the war against Iran. In 1988, the USS Vincennes murdered 290 civilians. The US has engaged in acts of war and aggression against Iran since 1953. Give me a break!
gchuggins 5 months ago
boom, bullseye at 8:23
Jrto93 6 months ago
Fucking stupid military of usa they always make mistakes!!
Because they are afraid.. Pussys!!
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This was a civilian airliner attack just ;like the 4 attacks on 9/11 AND THE ATTACK OF EGYPT AIR990 after take off from NYC. but you never heard that one befor,yes thats right there were attacks on the US with civilian airliners BEFORE 9/11/01 !!!!
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This was a civilian airliner attack just ;like the 4 attacks on 9/11 AND THE ATTACK OF EGYPT AIR990 after take off from NYC. but you never heard that one befor,yes thats right there were attacks on the US with civilian airliners BEFORE 9/11/01 !!!!1
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This was a civilian airliner attack just ;like the 4 attacks on 9/11 AND THE ATTACK OF EGYPT AIR990 after take off from NYC. (but you never heard that one befor,yes thats right there were attacks on the US with civilian airliners BEFORE 9/11/01 !!!!1
123tommy 10 months ago
Grats you just killed innocent people.
FallenPaladin85 10 months ago
This was not an accident or mistaken identity, we know now the Vincennes was as much as 20 nautical miles in Iranian waters. This was terrorism. Oh, wait, we are fighting terrorism, they are the terrorists. Sorry, forgot!
etuberalism 1 year ago
If the US was really the leader of the world they would have to throw the captain and crew in jail.
CHILESUDAFRICA2010 1 year ago 3
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crimes against humanity are innumerable for american governments. and for some reason, they always get away with it
PersianTerritorry 1 year ago
Even if it were an F-14 they had no right to shoot at it, it was within Iranian airspace.
jkyet 1 year ago 2
How NatGeo can swallow these lies - and broadcast them - is just disgusting.
cinesimonj 1 year ago 2
why did the commercial flight descend 1,000 ft/mile... and why did the air traffic controller did not steer them away from the vincense...
lastly why doesn't the navy put any civilian and commercial frequency radios in their ships
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Fuck me you americans are so full of shit. Amercians are either liers or DUMB AS FUCK. According to this americans are dumb as fuck. i feel sorry for you yanks. BTW not many in the world like you, i wonder why? one day...one day you will pay.
magegorgg 1 year ago
how do you live with yourself CAPTAIN??? 66 children on board!! 290 people...does making documentaries like this help you justify the murder??
zamanim1 1 year ago 7
Fucking ballshit. No one believes the Americans. They are fucking liers. F14 speed like a commercial aircraft hehehe.
This film deosn't make Iranians forget what they did. If fucking american are serious about what they said so why did they promote USS warship captain after the attack?
fuck the lier american
tabasdezh 1 year ago
and its not THE GULF , it is PERSIAN GULF
anahitaparnia 1 year ago 2
wtf? those assholes killed so many innocent people and I dont think that they were even ashamed of it. America should be proud if these heros!!! cirme seems to be ok if victims are not american!
anahitaparnia 1 year ago 3
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anahitaparnia 1 year ago
let me preface this comment with a statement i want to make clear: the loss of iranian lives was tragic. mistakes were made.
that said... what kind of pilot would fly INTO A WAR ZONE, especially with a ship being attacked the previous day, and not monitor every frequency & display the correct ID?
sprinklefriend 1 year ago
@sprinklefriend I am sure you will not make these type of idiotic justifications if the ones who kille were Americans you fucking ASS HOLE. LMAO
Parathanathu 1 year ago
@sprinklefriend ummm, it wasn't a war zone.
The Vincense had 'strayed' (to put it extremely politely) into Iranian waters, looking for a fight. They shot from within Iranian waters.
So before you go pretending that you care about those passengers, you might want to check your facts.
Because really, you seem to be just another lazy American, willing to believe any excuse given without question.
Which shows a real respect for those killed, doesn't it?
cinesimonj 1 year ago
you fucking cheaters! do you think people will believe this fucking bullshits?!! fuck off dudes! if you have balls upload the real videos which shows the real purposes of this attack to an innocent airbus with 290 passengers on it! i don't know how these mother fuckers can live their life in the past 22 years! just trust me NO ONES GONNA BELIEVE YOUR FUCKING IDIOT LIES !
siamakcgm 1 year ago
@siamakcgm Good Shot Vincennes!!!! 290 dead Ayatollahs!!!
penbelly 1 year ago
@penbelly ik, right? they couldnt hit a boat but they hit a civilian plane instead!
Hobinator17 1 year ago
You must be Proud Americans...
Fuck You...laying Bastards ...Airbus and F14??? Fuck you Children killers...
Holding Fire??? what an emotional army...
xxxaligatorxxx 1 year ago
Americans look like so happy when they killed the civilians ,
yes every time there is a way to kill in legal way ,
when civilians move, you can say , oh they are troops and may attack me and i am in danger and then decide to kill them all , and got a medal as hero !!
zapata2004 1 year ago
It still doesn't explain how the hell Iran got those F14s. The F14 line was brand new, even in '88. Their first flight was in '74, then in '78, Iran somehow acquired them? And why the hell is the US government selling these aircraft to a country like Iran, especially since they, allegedly, struck a warship, in Iranian waters (what the fuck where they doing there in the first place?), from the US. So basically, the US is fucking their own with their own hardware.
This makes sense? I think not.
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
Don't tell me the idiots on that war ship didn't know that F-14 is a air superiority interceptor fighter ,not a ground attack fighter like the F-4 phantom !
that was a criminal act on innocent civilians .
SuperParsman 1 year ago
@SuperParsman
Actually the F-14 can be outfitted to carry bombs. The United States used F-14 Tomcats to attack ground targets during the gulf war.
ParadigmPenguin 1 year ago
the relationships stay mutual. the USS Vincennce provided plenty of time for the plane to respond. It did not, by code this faced a threat, and remedial actions must have taken place. Who to blame? The pilots, for not responding, or the technology, for not picking up the signal.
jlauthorities 1 year ago
wouldn't an F-14 be very much faster than a commercial airplane?
PSYCHOPATHsam 2 years ago 29
civillian planes are huge in comparison they fly withing the designated corridor constant speed fighters are Very different BBC news 24 a us military intelligence officer resigned in discust at what the us navy did n spoke on the BBC hesaid we deliberately shot it down to intice them to retaliate but they didn't take th bait all this is BS propaganda by the us as they did with the Liberty us navy ship attacked by israel to blame egypt BS iranian plane was flying at constant height n speed
polygamous1 1 year ago 3
@PSYCHOPATHsam
jozsefkacsa 1 year ago
@PSYCHOPATHsam NATO has a max airspeed of i believe 250.. so an f14 would be subsonic and just cruising
MajorskiBroski 9 months ago
@PSYCHOPATHsam Only when he's supersonic. They don't fly that fast when cruising, because of fuel consumption.
soco13466 1 week ago
WTF? At 10 miles you could probably see the plane with a pair of binoculars.
493175001 2 years ago 27
@493175001 not when they r at FL100-120. plus the sky probably wasnt clear or there was cloud.
th3r0ck79 8 months ago
You guys all hate the us. They are not good people but if they where not here the germans would have controled the whole world. Ow and i think it was the USS Vincense fault
Lmblady07 2 years ago
haha thats funny, but anyway you cant label us people based on this, this is the US military, they dont represent everyday citizens beliefs.......as for the video, a ship was bombed a year before...this is just what happens in wars, once it starts its hard to stop, because everyone is on their toes about who might attack next....
jjjhs08 2 years ago
@jjjhs08 A ship was bombed on the Persian Gulf a year before? Well, gee, who was it that bombed it and did we go to war with them? Because as far as I know, there's no record of going to war with anyone back in '87 and '88 in the Middle East.
So, can you please back up that claim with factual, positive-proof evidence before you shout it out with obnoxiousness and ignorance? Like the men on the ship that shot down the airliner that got medals for their so-called 'brabery'?
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@jjjhs08 Also..
just what the FUCK was the US Navy doing in the Persian Gulf? What the hell were they doing on Iranian waters? They clearly violated international law right there! They were stationed illegally on iranian water! This shows us just how much arrogant the US government can get, acting as if they were the rulers of the world and dictate everything. Did I mention already they got medals for it? Yeah, I did.
So, hot-shot, care to explain this and back it up? It'd help a lot.
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@ArcanineKing you obviously didnt read what i said, i never intended to back up the US govt..my point was to defend us citizens such as myself because we are for themost part normal good people, aside from the moronic racist hateful citizens, which every country has some of....
sure the government did horrible things, im not trying to back them up, all i said, which ill say again is, nobodies hands are clean...the end
jjjhs08 1 year ago
@ArcanineKing and why did you call me a hot-shot? how did anything i say come across that way...haha...all i really said was nobody is fully innocent and everyone is a little guilty...whats hotshot about that ? weird....
jjjhs08 1 year ago
@jjjhs08 I don't know. You seemed like you were defending the majority of the US's doing, and by US, I mean the Government. So if it appeared I was attacking the US Citizens and, yeah, you, I apologize.
But I've only spoken against the US government, although, even the mass media seems corrupt as well as to hide most of what happens around the world, or try to be as biased as possible to get support from the public, because sadly, most people in the US believe the News is real, and true.
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@ArcanineKing no worries, hard to communicate perfectly on the internet as opposed to in person..when i mentioned the other sides wrongdoings, it was not to defend the US govt, simply to state war is a vicious cycle
anyhow, you are correct, most people do believe the news is true, and the ones that dont, believe nothing and are conspiracy maniacs...i like to just focus on my life and not get into all the hype
and im glad you realize us citizens differ from us govt, many people dont haha :)
jjjhs08 1 year ago
@jjjhs08 Yeah. Most people from other countries believe it is the Government that is degrading it's people, and lie to them about everything 'going well'. I am not American, but I live in the US. I have the right to be criticizing about the way people do things like every single person here. What bothers me though, is just how obnoxious some people can get. They say nothing's wrong with the way things are handled there, yet they see just how much wrongdoing their government do.
It's strange.
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@ArcanineKing Thats one thing I strongly agree with, many Americans like to trash immigrants saying they don't have a right to criticize anything thats American because they aren't from here, which I think is a bunch of BS...they are just being sensitive and defensive and thats the best response they can come up with...cant take a little criticism, besides, why would I have to get defensive of my government? Its not me, its my government, I really dont care what people say about them haha
jjjhs08 1 year ago
@jjjhs08 As for your conspiracy theorists, some of them could bring some incredible points that no one's overlooked. Like the Bilderberg Group. At first, we all thought it was a conspiracy whacko theory about some big corporate take-over of the nation, and we all thought Bilderberg didn't exist because of it. That was until a few years later, we learned of them through the media as they were being introduced. Then we have North American Union theory, which is slowly being exposed by stock market
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@ArcanineKing but you are correct, many conspiracy theories are true..just some people take it too far, not with the things they say, but how they go about it...they let it take over their lives and that itself, is falling for all the hype and forgetting they only have one life to live and focusing on being happy.
I cant deny there are incredible amounts of moronic hateful Americans as well, as you will see browsing youtube for a day...its sad, right now I live in peru, I like it more :)
jjjhs08 1 year ago
@jjjhs08 NAU is being exposed by stock market television because they're talking about the change of currency from the US dollar to the Amero, which we both know is the future currency of the NAU. If the NAU really does succeed, not only would the economy fix itself, but it'll shred the constitution and everything this country stood on.
That's why I look off the bias on the media, and try to find the real facts, whether it be on the net, or in books, or on some media sources where they slip up.
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@jjjhs08 It really doesn't take a genius to figure out something wrong is really going on. If we have not had conspiracy nuts telling us all sorts of things, we wouldn't know of these things and investigated ourselves, only to find out some of those things they say is true.
The information age is truly golden, no? :)
ArcanineKing 1 year ago
@ArcanineKing haha that is true...im talking about actual NUTS...people who spend all days of their lives and drive themself insane with the stuff...the type of people who spend the whole day approaching randoms strangers on the streets to tell them about how the government is planning on murdering the entire country...we have a lot of those out here in the USA haha its pretty funny,
But exactly, it doesnt take a genius to figure out something is wrong, that's what i tell them
jjjhs08 1 year ago
i like how thy try to paint the US in a good picture by showing Captain Rogers to have his hands tied and reluctantly striking the plane. The reallity is so different.
The warship was in IRANIAN waters fighting IRANIAN defence ships shooting down an aircraft in IRANIAN airspace. And with the best radar tech in the world i fail to believe that they didnt know that wasnt a airliner. The sheer size of the blob should have made it blindingly obvious!!
anneeq008 2 years ago 2
yeah I'm gonna have to agree with impartial1 here. How could the US just not know they were coming? they were traveling on a standard air route in a plane 10x bigger than an F14, and they were communicating with ATC like any other airliner that travels that route
Wh0rse 2 years ago 2
It is often overlooked that the Vincennes drove into Iranian territorial waters and then opened fire on the Iranian gunboats. So there was no 'war going on', it was an aggressive action of the USA from begin with.
ThePerfectRed 2 years ago
this is failure of judgment.. i hope you can sleep well in the night,, you cannot get away of this,, you murdered the inocent people and pretend protecting your ship.. the judgement is very shamefull to the us navy ship.. they are criminals not a heroes so stop giving medals to the murderer..where is your consciens... you must bring to jail and suffer your wrong judgement.. fucks.. you no heart..
artshop1321 2 years ago 4
this is embarasing to the captain,, a whole navy ship are treat as criminals, one, they are put in a wrong judgement un profesional,, and no consciens at all eat your medals and suffer after your death... shame on you,, its better to kill 290 people and gets medalss,, that is very good for the us ... your murder inocent civillians.. and trying to protect your own wrong doing.. what the fucks... you ... your criminals..
artshop1321 2 years ago
Commanders on Vincent should be convicted as criminals. Vincent could change their position to be out of flight path of "mysterious" plane, but they didn't as like always they think they have the right to everything and everyone's life. 290 people liked because of a selfish nation who are paying back the crimes they commited globally. God bless the souls that were lost for no reason. thanks for posting this video
simplefact4u 3 years ago
simplefact4u ; this film is a pack of lies, read wikipedia article "Iran Air flight 655" and see the edidence for yourself; this was a pure murder by the Americans.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago 2
All Propaganda,
1- USS Vincense and the civilian airliner, both were in Iranian water.
2- US wanted to get involve in war with Iran. It was the best time for US to get ride of Islamic government. US would be happy, if Iran retaliated for killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard, including 66 children.
3- This redicelous to think, US did not know and did not monitored civilian airliner.
4-At the end, all USS Vincense crew get medal for their mistakes.
5-US never apologized for its mistake.
impartial1 3 years ago