Independence Day Movie Review pt3 (Trailer)

[horaciosi]

Hearing (confused) Matthew laughing and having fun in this review it's so satisfying and so funny its actually a breath of fresh air.

[PrinceBishop3]

Some films are so bad they are good, some films are so bad they make you wanna puke. This yank wank is the latter. It made me embarrassed, no other movie has managed that.

[Mailrobot]

I always thought that, for all the damage the death ray could do, it was kind of realistic how it was blown up. Just think about it: it discharges a whole lot of power. A machine that does that, even if its from an advanced, space faring civilization, theres no reason to suppose it wont critically overload and malfunction, causing it to explode, if a plane crashes into it as its about to fire.

Its not that it "backfired" because of the plane.

[Zenn3k]

Correct, the explosion is more from the build up of energy required to fire the weapon.

The plane is like a match, and the weapon is a gas tanker.

Also, suicide missions are not required. You'd only have to hit it with a missile.

[Mailrobot]

I think that because you can hear the gun ALMOST firing its natural one would imagine it "backfires", but I think they put in the sound to make it more dramatic. Like he "hit it JUST in time", a second more and it would have fired.

[kranktank]

LA LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[snowman555555]

This is the first time I totally disagree with Matthew. I think Matthew knows deep inside this movie isn't up to his standards. He tries to excuse it by saying "it isn't the best movie ever made, but..." Hell, "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" isn't the best movie either, but I still recognize it's bad! Big thumb down for you this time, Matthew.

[confusedmatthew]

My standards heavily depend on what kind of film I'm watching. Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers wasn't even very good by a kiddie action film standard. Independence Day hits the sumar action mark perfectly.

Saying "this isn't greatest movie ever made" was not an attempt to "excuse" the films flaws. In fact, it was said in order to concede that I recognize the flaws but value the movie as a whole regardless.

[snowman555555]

You know what, not everybody watched this movie in sumer. I don't care if a movie is sumer, winter or fall. I only care whether it's a good movie. And this certainly is not. I can't really understand how somebody intelligent enough to see the value of Nemesis fail to see how ridiculously stupid and vomit inducing this movie is.

But keep reviewing, I'm still your big fun! And btw good luck fixing your house and whatever bothers you.

[confusedmatthew]

"Summer movie" doesn't necessarily mean "movie you saw in the summer". It means "Movie you would expect to see in the summer."

Moreover, I never said the movie wasn't stupid, but that doesn't automatically make it bad either. Most people hate Independence Day for what kind of movie it is rather than anything having to do with the movie its self.

But in any case, thanks for watching and for the well wishes. I think nature is done kicking my ass for the moment, lol.

[ob1benji1]

That's probably not what he meant, but agreed. It's an all around good movie

[PrinceBishop3]

His pulp fiction review made it up for me. I still think ID was dreadful, but then again, I'm not a yank so didn't get the free wank.

[killyourselfL0L]

Another awesome video! When you pointed out the whole "who wants to volunteer for a suicide mission!" thing made me crack the hell up!

Ohh God, that was great...

[toronto1234]

Well, obviously the american pilots were out of missiles at the time, the other air force might only need to shoot a missile there and destroy the alien mothership, but it doesnt make much sense.

[ManThatSeesMovies]

It so obviously happened that way. There's nothing more destructive about the kamikazi f-14 than there is a guided missle.

[Williamsfan]

Whenever you shouted "This is 'merica!" and followed it with the TAWP theme, I cracked up.

Oh funny :D

One thing though... Toward the end the film draws our attention to the fact that Randy's last missle is still armed even thought it won't deploy. It seems the destruction of his fighter set off the missle, thus detonating the alien super weapon. His plane wasn't an obstruction to the death ray as his last missle set of the chain rection that destroyed the alien vessel before it could fire.

[crshh]

Here's an audio question. During the Jeff Goldblum clip at 2:00 did anyone hear anything just from the left side of the earphones?

[confusedmatthew]

A few people seemed to have a problem with the audio there. I have listened to the whole thing on my computer with headphones and just through my speakers and haven't had a problem.

However, some of my family members commented that they could only hear the music out of one side of their speakers but no voices.

Unfortunately I have no idea what the problem is - nor how to fix it :(

[GalacticConflict]

Yeah, when listening to the video I could hear your narrative through both earphones just fine, but of the clips I could hear only music through my left 'phone and everything through the right.

[confusedmatthew]

Crap. I have no idea what to do about that.

[GalacticConflict]

Forget about it? I can still hear everything, just weirdly arranged.

[EliteRanger]

In your review you mention how laughable it was that the old drunk guy was able to "plug" the gun with his plane and have it backfire - but that's not the way it happened. Remember that he had a missile which was "stuck" on his plane and unlaunchable, so he brought the still-attached-missile to the firing emitter by flying his plane to it. It was the missile's explosion which destroyed the alien ship, not the plane "plugging" the blaster. :)

[confusedmatthew]

If all that had happened is that the missile detonated, that may have disabled the weapon but it wouldn't have destroyed the whole ship. The ship as a whole was destroyed because the death ray backfired on it.

[ManThatSeesMovies]

well the death-ray never got shot really. Honestly I thought it strange that those things would make a nuclear blast by hitting just a building beneath it. In any case, the potential of all the energy around the alien equipment would probably do a similar amount of damage.

[witchking3434]

lol all throughout this part of the review i thought you were going to say "a wizard did it"

[confusedmatthew]

No problemo. Thanks for watching :)

[DMaustrap]

Go back to early and mid 70's Japanese anime and you'll find all the scenes in this crappy film that Devlin and Roland Emmerich ripped off, that culminates to "big bang death to the enemy" scenes even with suicidal fighter jocks ramming their planes into mother ships. The film is Okay, but i hate it when American crappy filmmakers ripoff anime.

[fnatsy]

@DMaustrap Which animes?

[ob1benji1]

Wish it were on Youtube. Oh well.

[maestroMagoo89]

I also just went with the "suspension of disbelief" when it came to the computer virus. However, I do think the cropduster's suicide mission was plausible. He still had a missile, armed, and the aliens' energy weapon could plausibly be connected right to the power source of the whole ship. It's kinda like what happens in Star Wars episode 4, firing a torpedo through the port. And other pilots wouldn't have to do suicide missions unless their missiles' launching mechanisms were also jammed.

[RagingBalto]

He makes the reviews first.

[jayMaze5]

Don't do Armagod dam next.. do kill bill! Mostly Vol.2 I want to know your thoughts on "the bride" going to Bill's APT! He's making sandwiches. then they have a long agument after she slept, and have it out on the porch and she does that patty-cake-patty-cake on his chest! then they talk for 20 min and then he just stands up and dies the five piont heart technicnech IS NOT REAL to the sense that everything in the movie did!

[micronoid]

Cool reviewthough I will say that for non americans the elephant in the room in ID4 is totally that speech by the president. It completely overshadows any silly plot holes. This isnt help by the fact that every battle scene is in america and all we get from the rest of the world is a few 5 seconds clips from a few other countries.

[confusedmatthew]

Well, the film was made in America so I suppose that is to be expected. I wouldn't expect to see all of the world's forces if this were - say - made and set in France.

I thought the president's speech was silly and pompous, but I didn't think that detracted from the movie in any meaningful way.

[micronoid]

I dont think that speech detracted from the movie pre se. Im just saying that for a lot of your english speaking neighbors on the other side of the atlantic whenever this movie is brought up thats one of the first scenes that come to mind. In fact i remember back in college this guy in my class would play an audio version of that speech in the computer labs just to annoy some people with it. Im just saying :)

[confusedmatthew]

Well, if its any consolation, no one here seemed to like the speech very much either. lol.

If anyone in my class played that speech, I'd probably take a good old fashioned American baseball bat to it. :))

[twostinkyfingers]

Not having any knowledge of computer programming, I find that it would be impossible to write a virus for an alien computer because you don't know the language. Wouldn't you have to know some of the words like 'run' or 'execute'?

[angelus4282]

Dude, Part 3 had me in stitches! I especially loved the part about the general suggesting to others around the world to volunteer for suicide missions. Count me as one of those who has always wondered how David could upload the virus when it's virtually impossible to get Macs and PCs to talk to each other.

Oh well. Better to just go with it, huh? AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

[leg0kid]

you're sending out reviews really fast now, probably because your website is up.

[A4F7IPictures]

Great Review of ID4

I would not even bother Reviewing Armageddon

or any of Bay's work Except for Transformers

[TheFandango19]

Good to see a fellow Queen fan. Cheers.

[danxtur]

Good REview, what's next?

[shedininja001]

THIS IS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FlowinEnno]

FUCK YEAH!!!!

[DixyHair]

Aliens yer games are through,

Cuz now you'll have to answer to,

'MERIKA! FUCK YEAH!!!

[CAR18MEN]

Armageddon and Pearl Harbor are kinda the same movie,

only instead of an meteor (or meteorite???) its Japan.

[jfridy]

No, Pearl Harbor spent FAR too much time with a romantic triangle subplot that I couldn't have cared less about.

[friction00815]

since those spaceships were so big shouldn't it have fell directly on area 51 and killed everybody?

[cyberiouse]

Gotta agree with most everything you said except i have one thing i have to say. i always figured that when Russell flew his plane up into the big weapon that he crashes his ship into the weapon before it went off and being that something like the alien ship would have to have a form of fuel that would more than likely be VERY combustable that the explosion set off a cascade through the entire ship blowing it up.

[cyberiouse]

Also when they contacted the other countries to let them know how to blow them up that it didn't actually require a plane to blow it up. If they knew that they HAD to shoot a missile into the weapon that they could have all their pilots fire at it and that having several dozen shots at the weapon on the ship as apposed to the what... 2-3 actual shots that we had before the suicide of Russell to do the damage would do the work...

But thats just my opinion and feelings on the matter.

[confusedmatthew]

That may be true. I could go either way on that one.

The problem with the missiles they were firing is that they can only go strait; which is why none of them could get through.

Maybe a different approach would have solved that problem; but it still seemed like a funny line to me.

[cyberiouse]

But remember when the bottom doors opened to shoot the weapon that there were LARGE spaces between them and that the bottom of the weapon was visible then AND planes do NOT have to fly completely horizontal. They could easily make pull up from being lower on the ground and be look up at an angle right ...at... the weapons nose... fire.... BOOM .. bye bye aliens

[ManThatSeesMovies]

I only remember 1 missile attempting to fly into it. My problem with the scene is that all the other fighter jets around the world would probably have run out of their missiles by the same time.

[DixyHair]

I'm almost completely certain that it's physically impossible to make a chemical that's THAT combustible. You can ask a chemist, but I'm pretty sure they'll tell you the same thing.

However, rather than blocking the pulse, the explosion could have fucked up the delicate reaction, causing the machine to misfire & release all that energy inside the ship.

[ManThatSeesMovies]

there's a thing on earth that they used in Back To the Future called Plutonium. If that can simulate a time travel, then I'm sure it might be able to create that kind of explosion.

[DixyHair]

Plutonium cannot simulate time travel.

It can only be used for nuclear reactions, but nuclear reactions are not examples of combustion, & plutonium is far from combustible. A nuclear explosion requires a very precise detonation so that the chain reaction happens perfectly, in order that enough atoms are split simultaneously.

In other words, nuclear explosions aren't anything like chemical explosions, so if their ship ran off of nuclear power, it would have just fizzled.

[ManThatSeesMovies]

ran out of nuclear power? I didn't say any shit about that. Don't answer my comments you don't know shit about what I'm talking about.

[DixyHair]

Your comment wasn't exactly the pinnacle of clarity, so perhaps instead of attributing the misunderstanding to my supposed ignorance, you should work on being a better communicator.

[ManThatSeesMovies]

Who said their ship ran out of nuclear power? If it was plutonium, the ship could have been channeling a beam and compressing it into the ground. Who says that it's plutonium anyways?

[genrlcvr]

I think there's one point you may misunderstand a bit. The drunken crop-duster does the suicide-hit only because his missile is jammed and so it's the only way he can do it; when the General enthusiastically says "let's tell everyone how to take these sons of bitches down" he doesn't mean to tell them to do a bunch of suicide crashes into the primary death-ray weapon--he just means to them to focus their attacks on that part of the ship (e.g., to fire missiles at that part)

[confusedmatthew]

That may be true, but there seem to be two problems with that:

First, the missiles weren't getting through no matter who fired them.

Second, destroying the weapon its self probably wouldn't have caused a backfire; and would not have destroyed the ships - only the ships weapon.

In order to "bring them down", a suicide run would likely be needed..

[genrlcvr]

I think by the time the ship opened its primary weapon there were only a few missiles left among all the fighter planes, and we only see one missile (the President's) fired in direction of the weapon, but not score a direct hit. Perhaps the best way to hit the weapon, without a suicide-run, is to get far enough under the ship and fly up toward it (like the guy did), then fire your missile, and then veer off back to horizontal so you don't crash into the ship.

[genrlcvr]

One more point I might make in defense of the movie-- why the plane isn't destroyed as the ship starts firing its death-ray. I think the first phase of the death-ray-- the beam, doesn't really do anything on its own. After a number of seconds of the beam, a pulse goes through it--and that's what causes the destruction. I think that's what we see when the ship, early in the movie, destroys the building. So the point is to get the sense that destruction from the pulse is imminent in a few seconds.

[CENSOREDFORSEX]

Why didn't the pulse just destroy the plane? It makes no sense.

[genrlcvr]

re:CENSOREDFORSEX

My point, if I wasn't clear, was that the pulse did not yet occur. Basically it seems the weapon starts up with a beam, but that is just the set-up for the pulse that goes through the beam a few seconds later. The point is that the beam started up, and so we know a few seconds later the pulse--which is the destructive force--will come in a few seconds--but the plane crashes into the weapon just before the pulse was to occur.

[genrlcvr]

You are right though about it not being plausible that destroying the weapon would destroy the whole ship--that's just a deus ex machina / panacea, to allow the movie viewer to get the sense quickly that people around the world are now going to easily beat these ships (i.e., to jump quickly to the conclusion of the movie, with the sense that the aliens are fully beat and there's nothing to worry about anymore).

[Firelordzerien]

wait i thought u listed house as one of your favorite shows? that cliche is used like every episode

[confusedmatthew]

Yeah,they use to do that every once in a while on House, but lately it has been used to the point of ridiculousness.

Still, It doesn't bother me as much on House because House's character is a genius who's character trait it is to see every small detail.

David may be a genius cable guy, but he's no genius per se.

[jc851]

solid review

[wolfgar45]

lol AMRRRCAAAA FUCK YEAH!!!

[Avian005IsJustice]

As before with the first two parts, I completely agree!

[SuperBritishguy]

great review

[theangrymoviedork]

pretty awsome!