incredible video im getting one of these soon so im looking up everything i wanna do to it as soon as possible and i have to say ill be getting about 90 percent of what you said done to it i want a different fore grip because i want a 75 drum barrel with it and heard they get really hot plus a hallo site or something but im not sure about the 1100 straight off the bat love the pistol grip the safety and everything else though but i gota try and do that for cheaper i still wana buy my fullsize ak
It looks amazing, but i dont see how in the world he will sale these things.. the price is crazy. Dress it up all you want its still a Draco... Great review tho brother
Also, the reason why a Krebs is more expensive than a regular Mini-Draco is because one of the best AK gunsmiths in the country goes over it to make certain the damn thing works before selling it. Especially since Century is notorious for bad QC. The term "assembled by drunk monkeys" comes to mind.
@esh325 So the trigger job, smoothing of the action, etc Marc Krebs does doesn't improve function? Also, I have personal experience with CAI rifles. Canted sights, magwells that are out of spec, etc. Please note that Century has to modify a lot of their shit to make it legal for sale in the US per 922(r). By the time you take a base Century and clean it up to the point of the gun shown in the vid, you'll be out at least 1200-1500 bucks, maybe more depending on the smith.
@RaderizDorret You don't seem to understand. The draco is a pistol and 922R compliance does not apply to pistols. Only to rifles. There are no mag wells that are out of spec here. It's 100% Romanian made. If the trigger bothers you, then just buy a TAPCO trigger. I've never heard of DRACOS being unreliable. So I do not see his modifications making a huge differernce in reliability.
@esh325 And I've seen a lot of Century's products fail with first-hand experience. Forgive me if I'm willing to spend the money to have a smith go over a weapon from a company that is known to be hit-or-miss with QC to make sure it works. The video lists the following: relatively poor finish, rough edges, bolt that tends to bind, etc.
@RaderizDorret If they failed and were not modified by Century for 922r, then that has nothing to do with it being a Century arms product. Century arms is also an importer. The only thing they did to this pistol was put an importers mark on it. Any problems it has is from the Cugir factory in Romania.
@esh325 So, you've got a new finish, custom action/trigger job, custom handguard, sling swivel, modified sights, new pistol grip, and a new flash hider added to the gun and the final price is around 1100. If you were to take a base Draco and have a smith do all this, you'd easily spend upwards of 1300-1800 on the project depending on the parts used and the smith doing the work.
@RaderizDorret The finish holds up fine. I've owned a WASR before. The trigger is fine also. The rest are just frivolous additions for what is ultimately just a "toy"
@esh325 And the WASR is what I would call a "bargain basement" AK. I stand by my statements the Century is hit or miss. Especially when people who work on the damn things for a living say the same thing. Saying "mine works fine" is a sample size of one. I've seen more than my share of WASRs not work properly. As for the gun in the vid being a "toy", it would make one hell of an SBR. 7.62x39 in a gun the size of an MP5. Hardly what I'd call a "toy".
@RaderizDorret The WASR's do have sporadic quality and do vary from same to sample, yes. But a lot of the things that plague a WASR do not plauge a Draco. No mag wobble because it's already widened from the factory. I should not have compared it to a WASR.
@esh325 I actually agree with you that if all Century does is stamp their name on the Dracos, then it should be fine. Problem is I don't trust Century not to fuck with something. Too many bad experiences dealing with them. Ditto other manufacturers like Taurus and the like. On the other hand, I've had damn good experiences with HK (because I don't suck and HK doesn't hate me). Perhaps it makes me a bit of a snob, but I tend to go for the best quality for anything I buy, that way I only buy once.
@esh325 Also, Century's business model is "sell as much as we can" and therefore quality suffers as a result. They can put out a good product, but their average quality is hit or miss. Sometimes they have a good rifle. Other times it's way the hell out of spec. If your rifle works, fine. Rock on. I'll just stick with Arsenal SLR/SGL series, Krebs, and the like for my AKs.
@RaderizDorret I had the opportunity to handle one of these and I assure you it is no more a Century product then I am Barry Obama. The receiver, barrel and gas tube are Romanian. Everything else is either made by or added by Krebs. Everybody is comparing apples to oranges. There wouldn't be any bitching if it was called the Krebs Custom Krinkov pistol.
Idk what ole marc krebs is smoking but I imagine only rich tacticool tards will purchase this. There really isnt enough he has done that somebody with the right tools and knowledge could do for around 150 bucks or less themselves. This is WAY overpriced, id rather sbr a draco reg for around 700 bucks total than a oversized pistol that had some dremel work, some drilling, and recoat of certain areas for 1200 bucks
$500.00 for the base pistol, $200.00 in parts, Probably 10-12 hours of smithing, dealer paid federal excise tax, and gasp, dealer profit. $1200 sounds like a pretty good deal considering how KREBS weapons hold their value.
If you can afford it, why not! 100% made in Romania and then have a quality gunsmith add finishing touches to it, what more would you want other than it to be Russian.
Gimme gimme gimme!
Would love to SBR my DRACO and have Krebs detail it.
Those are some of the finest looking AKs i've seen in quite awhile, almost makes me want to go out and buy an AK. Great review as always, keep up the good work.
Nice video as always. And, it is beautiful rifle... very nice. Other than concealment, I don't understand what it'd actually be useful for. Firing from the hip is a great look, but no aim. And, there's no stock to shoulder it with to get good aim.
Very well done video, my friend! Makes me love my Kalashnikov styled rifle even more. This design will never be outdated as far as I am concerned. I would even trade one of my high quality ARs for a finer AK variant. Keep up the awesome videos. Rock on !
i like the new style, very well done video. the gun is pretty cool too, but ill probably just stick with buying the full size draco pistol and sbr it.
throw a red dot on there and a hand stop to keep from blowing a hole in your hand and that would be uber sexy... you gotta make a more in detailed video on the sbr process man! otherwise I'll cry...
@makun16 We took the PACT chronograph out there but the darn thing was dead. Nothing I did would bring it back to life, I kept getting the "no start signal" error. So it's going to be featured in a Sure Shot video and I've ordered a new Chrony. I will find out what the velocity hit is and report back to you guys.
That pistol grip is horrible! It costs like $10 online,a friend of mine bought it for his draco and threw it away next day.Horrible ergonomics.Now he uses a hogue grip and its the best grip for the AK out there.
ahahahahaha $1199!!! you have got to be kidding me!! krebs is such a rip off! don't get me wrong, i'm a capitalist at heart, but that is a total rip off!! you can buy that gun online for $400. Mack, please tell me where the xtra $799 is in this build? seriously... i would like to know where you think the xtra $799 is that makes this gun worth it... i'm watching your vid again. maybe i missed something to justify a $1200 price tag...
There is much to be said for just "leaving it as a pistol." Once you SBR it, you have to get permission from the government every time you cross state lines, and you can NEVER convert it back to a pistol.
@Sturmgewehre thanks, if you made a bull pup system for this, would it be a sbr? For example, just put a fore grip with a connecting rod to the trigger so you can use the receiver as a butt stock.
Dracos are for chumps.
REAL men use the Obrez.
Nix6p 4 hours ago
I'd like one SBRed with an underfolder stock
Nb1PatrioticAmerican 6 days ago
Jesus, get that A2 birdcage off that Draco! They don't belong there! Put a krink muzzle break on there or something.
SoCalAirs0ft 1 week ago
incredible video im getting one of these soon so im looking up everything i wanna do to it as soon as possible and i have to say ill be getting about 90 percent of what you said done to it i want a different fore grip because i want a 75 drum barrel with it and heard they get really hot plus a hallo site or something but im not sure about the 1100 straight off the bat love the pistol grip the safety and everything else though but i gota try and do that for cheaper i still wana buy my fullsize ak
opiatebliss 3 weeks ago
can you run the tapco polymer mags in the mini or regular dracos
mississippigunner 1 month ago
@mississippigunner yes
GREEDY602 1 month ago
It looks amazing, but i dont see how in the world he will sale these things.. the price is crazy. Dress it up all you want its still a Draco... Great review tho brother
cory07ink 3 months ago
If I had F*** You money I'd get one just cause its a Krebs but I don't so I ain't.
GHOSTofWAR223 3 months ago
thats a sweet deal for 200 bucks.
mcmelonmaster 3 months ago
Also, the reason why a Krebs is more expensive than a regular Mini-Draco is because one of the best AK gunsmiths in the country goes over it to make certain the damn thing works before selling it. Especially since Century is notorious for bad QC. The term "assembled by drunk monkeys" comes to mind.
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@RaderizDorret All Century does is put an import mark on this weapon. This pistol is 100% Romanian. The Krebs isn't any more accurate or reliable.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 So the trigger job, smoothing of the action, etc Marc Krebs does doesn't improve function? Also, I have personal experience with CAI rifles. Canted sights, magwells that are out of spec, etc. Please note that Century has to modify a lot of their shit to make it legal for sale in the US per 922(r). By the time you take a base Century and clean it up to the point of the gun shown in the vid, you'll be out at least 1200-1500 bucks, maybe more depending on the smith.
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@RaderizDorret You don't seem to understand. The draco is a pistol and 922R compliance does not apply to pistols. Only to rifles. There are no mag wells that are out of spec here. It's 100% Romanian made. If the trigger bothers you, then just buy a TAPCO trigger. I've never heard of DRACOS being unreliable. So I do not see his modifications making a huge differernce in reliability.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 And I've seen a lot of Century's products fail with first-hand experience. Forgive me if I'm willing to spend the money to have a smith go over a weapon from a company that is known to be hit-or-miss with QC to make sure it works. The video lists the following: relatively poor finish, rough edges, bolt that tends to bind, etc.
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@RaderizDorret If they failed and were not modified by Century for 922r, then that has nothing to do with it being a Century arms product. Century arms is also an importer. The only thing they did to this pistol was put an importers mark on it. Any problems it has is from the Cugir factory in Romania.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 So, you've got a new finish, custom action/trigger job, custom handguard, sling swivel, modified sights, new pistol grip, and a new flash hider added to the gun and the final price is around 1100. If you were to take a base Draco and have a smith do all this, you'd easily spend upwards of 1300-1800 on the project depending on the parts used and the smith doing the work.
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@RaderizDorret The finish holds up fine. I've owned a WASR before. The trigger is fine also. The rest are just frivolous additions for what is ultimately just a "toy"
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 And the WASR is what I would call a "bargain basement" AK. I stand by my statements the Century is hit or miss. Especially when people who work on the damn things for a living say the same thing. Saying "mine works fine" is a sample size of one. I've seen more than my share of WASRs not work properly. As for the gun in the vid being a "toy", it would make one hell of an SBR. 7.62x39 in a gun the size of an MP5. Hardly what I'd call a "toy".
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@RaderizDorret The WASR's do have sporadic quality and do vary from same to sample, yes. But a lot of the things that plague a WASR do not plauge a Draco. No mag wobble because it's already widened from the factory. I should not have compared it to a WASR.
esh325 3 months ago
@esh325 I actually agree with you that if all Century does is stamp their name on the Dracos, then it should be fine. Problem is I don't trust Century not to fuck with something. Too many bad experiences dealing with them. Ditto other manufacturers like Taurus and the like. On the other hand, I've had damn good experiences with HK (because I don't suck and HK doesn't hate me). Perhaps it makes me a bit of a snob, but I tend to go for the best quality for anything I buy, that way I only buy once.
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@esh325 Also, Century's business model is "sell as much as we can" and therefore quality suffers as a result. They can put out a good product, but their average quality is hit or miss. Sometimes they have a good rifle. Other times it's way the hell out of spec. If your rifle works, fine. Rock on. I'll just stick with Arsenal SLR/SGL series, Krebs, and the like for my AKs.
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
@RaderizDorret I had the opportunity to handle one of these and I assure you it is no more a Century product then I am Barry Obama. The receiver, barrel and gas tube are Romanian. Everything else is either made by or added by Krebs. Everybody is comparing apples to oranges. There wouldn't be any bitching if it was called the Krebs Custom Krinkov pistol.
DCReese 3 months ago
"Useless"? What's useless about a gun that when fully SBR'd gives you 7.62x39 Soviet in a package around the size of an MP5?
RaderizDorret 3 months ago
Great firearm for the dirt shooters on youtube.
semiautoriflelover1 3 months ago
love that fireball
joshuamsu 3 months ago
not too shabby... Krebs wants too much for what it is though. safety selector switch is great upgrade, have 1 on my draco...
rwallen11 3 months ago
Idk what ole marc krebs is smoking but I imagine only rich tacticool tards will purchase this. There really isnt enough he has done that somebody with the right tools and knowledge could do for around 150 bucks or less themselves. This is WAY overpriced, id rather sbr a draco reg for around 700 bucks total than a oversized pistol that had some dremel work, some drilling, and recoat of certain areas for 1200 bucks
SonofLiberty1990 3 months ago
You're vids keep getting better and better with regards to production. Very nice work!
nizzelnook 3 months ago
Nice to see you're taking full advantage of your rights living in a free state.
i500x 3 months ago
Man that is nice, so small and compact but still dishing out the 7.62X39. How is the recoil on it? Looks manageable and fun.
bber45 3 months ago
Just so you know the krebscutom link is messed up.
RuthlessZabusa 3 months ago
CCW ???? @LOL
thepolarpandabear 3 months ago
$500.00 for the base pistol, $200.00 in parts, Probably 10-12 hours of smithing, dealer paid federal excise tax, and gasp, dealer profit. $1200 sounds like a pretty good deal considering how KREBS weapons hold their value.
DCReese 3 months ago
sbr that fucker!!!
rqm420 3 months ago
those cutouts are too noisy 4 me.
DudeNumberOnePlus 3 months ago
I won't accept this as a real AK47 until you catch the hand guards on fire.
killchain187 3 months ago
Excellent review
randomazn420 3 months ago
Wondering when this'll be an SBR
samuraitactical556 3 months ago
Is this a commercial or a review?
VegasStuto 3 months ago
Bet that thing is LOUD
PINski1015 3 months ago
If you can afford it, why not! 100% made in Romania and then have a quality gunsmith add finishing touches to it, what more would you want other than it to be Russian.
Gimme gimme gimme!
Would love to SBR my DRACO and have Krebs detail it.
lazerz4eyez 3 months ago
man i just dont see $700 hundred dollars in improvements but im a cheap sob
crosshaireyes 3 months ago
is the barrel threaded for an actual A2 1/2-28 FH?
altops 3 months ago
do they got rails for the Mini Draco?
RatsDogs666 3 months ago
@RatsDogs666 Yes. Midwest Industries makes rail systems for the standard Draco as well as the mini.
RagnarsHeir 3 months ago
@RagnarsHeir thanks man!
RatsDogs666 3 months ago
@RatsDogs666 Clarification. The M.I. rail for the AK can be used for the standard Draco.
RagnarsHeir 3 months ago
Sweet little AK, also I never get tired of that cool intro animation, who ever did it, did it well. :)
cazybeast2 3 months ago
Those are some of the finest looking AKs i've seen in quite awhile, almost makes me want to go out and buy an AK. Great review as always, keep up the good work.
MThrow 3 months ago
That thing looks like a lot of fun!
EverythingisFire 3 months ago
Wait, It gets smaller than the Draco? LOL
TACTICALCHICKENSTRIP 3 months ago
Sounded more like a commercial than a review.
VegasStuto 3 months ago
$1100 for a $350 dollar pistol...um, no thanks
DaytonaRoadster 3 months ago 14
@DaytonaRoadster Most drive bye shooters would love this weapon but the price is too high for the average gang banger drug dealer.
semiautoriflelover1 3 months ago
It's hard to justify that price for a toy.
esh325 3 months ago
Your videos are WAY better than anything that's currently on the outdoor channel! Keep up the awesome-ness.
CFOofEVIL 3 months ago
Great editing
TengoChorr0 3 months ago
I wish I could afford one!!!
RebelLittlezero 3 months ago
1,100+ dollars? No thanks.
sadeyedangel 3 months ago 13
@Mortalcoil100, it's not meant to be a rifle, it's for CQB at very close ranges, much like a handgun, but with much more firepower over a handgun.
Thrawnization 3 months ago
Please tell me you are doing an underfolder with this one
Jtgarner07 3 months ago
Nice video as always. And, it is beautiful rifle... very nice. Other than concealment, I don't understand what it'd actually be useful for. Firing from the hip is a great look, but no aim. And, there's no stock to shoulder it with to get good aim.
Mortalcoil100 3 months ago
Great production value
PizzaAndFirearms 3 months ago
awesome
arcanesoldierx 3 months ago
Very well done video, my friend! Makes me love my Kalashnikov styled rifle even more. This design will never be outdated as far as I am concerned. I would even trade one of my high quality ARs for a finer AK variant. Keep up the awesome videos. Rock on !
Babyglockster27 3 months ago
Beautiful review! You've really kicked up the production value on these. Keep it up!
palerider1775 3 months ago
how do you think it will work as a SBR?
krink4you 3 months ago
1:55 FUCK YEA
baconman2423 3 months ago
i like the new style, very well done video. the gun is pretty cool too, but ill probably just stick with buying the full size draco pistol and sbr it.
nejinaji 3 months ago
Wow $1200 is pretty pricey for this pistol. They are around $400 new. Not sure there is $800 worth of work that went into it.
MascisMan1 3 months ago
I want a Draco but everywhere is out of stock except Gun Broker and they got the prices jacked up. Good review the Draco's are awesome.
1crimm 3 months ago
throw a red dot on there and a hand stop to keep from blowing a hole in your hand and that would be uber sexy... you gotta make a more in detailed video on the sbr process man! otherwise I'll cry...
vampire847 3 months ago
what's the point of that flash hider anyway?
alecshinyuanwu 3 months ago
I'm curious how much velocity you get from such a short barrel? Cool review, thanks!
makun16 3 months ago
@makun16 We took the PACT chronograph out there but the darn thing was dead. Nothing I did would bring it back to life, I kept getting the "no start signal" error. So it's going to be featured in a Sure Shot video and I've ordered a new Chrony. I will find out what the velocity hit is and report back to you guys.
Sturmgewehre 3 months ago
@Sturmgewehre
I've had the same problem with my own PACT unit. It's really a PITA. I'm switching to Chrony as well.
AS for this weapon, it would make a VERY cool SBR.
wildcatactual 3 months ago
man for $1199 i'll buy two and a 1000 rds of ammo
MrRobertl1974 3 months ago 2
@MrRobertl1974
Yup......You can do alot of that work on your own and still have enough left over to buy 2 mini draco's
ramtron1775 3 months ago 2
That pistol grip is horrible! It costs like $10 online,a friend of mine bought it for his draco and threw it away next day.Horrible ergonomics.Now he uses a hogue grip and its the best grip for the AK out there.
urungutang 3 months ago
I like the way u did this video. Should do.them all this way it was a lot more entertaining =)
oPESKYo 3 months ago
I wanna I wanna!
CArtOfTheMAn 3 months ago
I like it . How much does it weigh ?
frankgon4 3 months ago
ahahahahaha $1199!!! you have got to be kidding me!! krebs is such a rip off! don't get me wrong, i'm a capitalist at heart, but that is a total rip off!! you can buy that gun online for $400. Mack, please tell me where the xtra $799 is in this build? seriously... i would like to know where you think the xtra $799 is that makes this gun worth it... i'm watching your vid again. maybe i missed something to justify a $1200 price tag...
smasci 3 months ago 2
Come back to me with a FAL pistol and we'll talk.
wicked gun though..
TheHiddenPart 3 months ago
Sweet pistol.
millster101 3 months ago
LOL. added to favorites @5:45
mxf7010g8k 3 months ago
Love it
cmraycmray 3 months ago
looks like im going to sbr another draco.
darque29 3 months ago
Can you buy a holster for it?
MrRunyon 3 months ago
Thats is just AK Awesomeness
TH3G00DS0LDI3R 3 months ago
Link is broken in the description
NortheastTactical 3 months ago
Wicked CQB weapon!
serilus4life 3 months ago
Is it legal to add a forward vertical hand-grip???
DIECASTER 3 months ago
@DIECASTER making it an AOW, a Form 1 would need to my filled out. IMHO Id just SBR it but then again the price is a bit up there...
TMHonfire102 3 months ago
What ammo do you use? I have used barnaul. No problem with that.
pkbjorn35 3 months ago
@pkbjorn35 I was using Brown Bear in this review, no issues.
Sturmgewehre 3 months ago
MAC and Mark Krebbs a match made in heaven.
1775marsoc 3 months ago
Lol. Define it like one will....it will never be a pistol. Its just a really short rifle :-)
pkbjorn35 3 months ago
Silly stockless rifle
VicariousReality7 3 months ago 8
@VicariousReality7 ...not for long. Give me 4 months or so.
Sturmgewehre 3 months ago 24
@Sturmgewehre story of my life! that will be a TITS SBR!
ASCBLUEYE 3 months ago
@Sturmgewehre i t would look very nice w/ a triangle foulder
kttcox1 3 months ago
There is much to be said for just "leaving it as a pistol." Once you SBR it, you have to get permission from the government every time you cross state lines, and you can NEVER convert it back to a pistol.
L1A1 3 months ago
these videos are getting better and better, tv quality production
Jajajawut 3 months ago
Is the flash suppressor pinned or threaded?
Montyfiable 3 months ago
@Montyfiable Threaded.
Sturmgewehre 3 months ago
@Sturmgewehre thanks, if you made a bull pup system for this, would it be a sbr? For example, just put a fore grip with a connecting rod to the trigger so you can use the receiver as a butt stock.
Montyfiable 3 months ago
excellent videography and production sturmgewehre!
rbahng 3 months ago
You completely missed a Dual Weild opportunity. Lol
jsrscbr 3 months ago
1200$ holy balls...
BigSean1992 3 months ago
It would be neat to make some sort of bull pup system for this. But being Canadian, I don't know if that is classified as an SBR or not.
Montyfiable 3 months ago
Wow... that's an awesome looking Draco!
KiloSierraAlpha 3 months ago
Man love what your doing to the format of your reviews
Fahrenheit38 3 months ago
your videos are getting better and better, your at pro levels now. keep up the work!
ceraldi 3 months ago
Wow. I want....two.
DCReese 3 months ago
Excellent review. You keep getting better and better.
BHPfan26 3 months ago
Nice lookin Pistol
claymore680 3 months ago
wew... 1199? Not to bad, I would definitely consider getting a SBR tax Stamp.
Praetorian556 3 months ago
omg im first.... ive waited my whole life to be first on a youtube video
KalashnikovKid762 3 months ago 11
@KalashnikovKid762 LOL, that gave me a good laugh.
Sturmgewehre 3 months ago 7