@MaskedReaper13 - Oh how brave you are acting all Tough behind your Mom's Computer where you know no-one can find you. Your Mom must be calling you, its way past your Bedtime.
@MaskedReaper13 - Oh shut up you stupid Poser, acting like you know everything. "NO ONE IS INNOCENT!!!!" eh? say that to a new born Baby or any young Child. And of course there are innocent People you stupid obnoxious Asshole. And if no is innocent then neither are you, so why not go and kill yourself! I'll say it again "the Kelbold/Harris way is NOT the way to deal with anything". End of Story.
@CaptainP00face i agree. its absolutely heartless when people say that the Harrises & the Klebold's AREN'T suffering, or that their agony doesn't continue to this day. they lost sons they raised & loved; how could they NOT be struggling? it's not their fault that 4/20 happened, they raised the boys as best they could. wherever the families are now, i hope they're coping with their pain & loss, & wish them only the best.
@hectorssister Just think how long people did this all to them and Eric & Dylan were patient yet not hestiant to bring thmeselves "JUSTICE" that otherwise would never come. Sad. What is wrong with people in our society to not stand up and stop harassment and bullying. I feel sorry for Eric and Dylan's families, maybe they did not know what was happening to their sons. And what a shitty school and shitty teachers that allowed and thus condoned the harassment and bullying.
If you're stating that Hitler, Eric and Dylan were great man of justice, you can obviously expect a lot of bullshit over you, which is a good thing. Seems you lost common sense, I also find it disturbing to see your profile. You should get some mental help.
@MaskedReaper13 - I HATE HATE HATE Bullies, and I can understand wanting to make them suffer for making others Lives Hell, but Harris and Klebold did not kill only Bullies, they also murdered a lot of innocent Kids who had nothing to do with their difficult Lives. Everyone suffers from Hard times, but the Kelbold/Harris way is NOT the way to deal with it.
see thats the thing, they probably did'nt even kill the people who hurt them, instead they killed the innocent, people like you really should think about what it is like to be one of the families of those who were INNOCENTLY killed. they are not heroes, nor are they martyrs. The real martyrs are those who were killed such as Racheal. really how can you defend someone who kills innocent people? i suppose you defend hitler & saddam hussien too huh?
@MultiDollmaker we contribute good beer and strip joints. and dont talk to me about italy. those peasants are railroading that american amanda knox girl. using one cotton swab to collect multiple evidence samples...are these people in caveman times or what.
@talitakoomi Universally hated? Not really. I've seen a ton of fan pages dedicated to Harris and Klebold. On YouTube alone, there are thousands of comments praising them. Hated? Sure, but loved by many too.
Burning in Hell? I hate to tell you, but Hell doesn't exist, and neither does Heaven.
@rtiven the only people who loved those 2 nerds with guns are other nerds. you must be from germany or europe or someplace like it cause only a people who have a history of mass killing talk that way about other mass murderers. you proabbly would be the type who would fall for hitler.weak minded people always are sympathetic to evil people who murder the weak.
@known12 First of all, I'm from Denmark, not Germany. Second, I never said that I love or idolise the Coumbine shooters. Sorry, dude, but I don't think there's anything great about mowing down peope in a school. No, I idolise philosophers and scientists; people who actually make a valuable contribution to mankind. Sorry, come again.
@rtiven the government didnt tell everyone they shot innocent kids....the kids themself did. I'm not going to argue withy you. you are like a sheep in nazi germany praising people who kill. theres something wrong with you.you have to be mental to talk nice of killers.but then again, you are from europe. historically speaking you people arent the brightest people.seek help.
@swimmer56764 - Stop trying to act all Tough behine your Computer you stupid little Troll-Poser. Stupid Morons like you can't fool anyone. If you think Harris and Klebold are so great then why don't you say that to the faces of the Victims families? Coward.
Well,it must have been hard for the parents,but how could you not know that your son had bombs,guns and ammunition hidden in his bedroom? I think his behavior might have given signs of his internal situation too. Were all of those things ignored? Maybe it could have been stopped if the parents paid a little more attention to them.
The Father failed as a father. Pretty obvious. Your skunkAnus son was just that. Pure loser extraOrdinaire. No, this is not me reacting emotionally at all. Just facing the facts. Only losers shoot little girls and others. If he had shot one or 2 guys who had endlessly belittled him - then i'd understand. But these 2 were total losers with nothing to offer. Glad they are dead.
@roestio90 newsflash for you: There's no sound in posts -they're in your own head and you can and obviously do project them wherever you wish. Happens to lots of people who project their own emotional desires onto others
@robi2000 Newsflash for you: When I said sound, I didn't mean it literally. I meant as in your posts indicate that you're emotionally invested in this. Geez, why do people always have to be so nitpicking?
@robi2000 Can't come up with a counter-arguement, so instead you decide to respond with mockery. Oh, well, I really shouldn't have expected much from someone like you. Nice day to you, kiddo.
The parents of Eric Harris are just as much to blame. HOw can they have amassed so many weapons and the parents not know? Clueless and negligent! The Apple does not fall far from the tree. Oh he is BRAVE to come to the reading? Burn in hell with your son.
@NKA23 yeah ok. The sky is also blue and water is wet. We ALL know humans have feelings and reactions. Only morons think that it's OK to shoot others because of some problems. EVERYONE deals with rudeness. EVERYONE deals with racism, mean people, frustration and disapointment. It's called LIFE. The only good thing these 2 deviant crybabies ever did right was shoot themselves. Once you decide to shoot others - you deserve no symapthy. They were selfish and weak and hateful
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahah woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahah woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
I am the brother of a person who took someones life many years ago ..i watched my parents age tremendously and blame themselves ,unjustifyably ,perhaps for the rest of their lives ,although he did his best to make his ammends to them ,it will always be a stain on our good name of course as we were never brought up to hate ,.but were in a country divided by civil war ,not that that is any excuse ...but my sincere empathy goes out to the elders of these boys ,they have no blame in their sons deeds
@MadMAn12gauge speaking of dumb mother fuckers, learn how to spell, retard.
they betrayed their parents trust and hid weapons in places where they knew their parents wouldn't look. if eric knew that his parents would search his room, he would have hid the weapons in another place. but he knew that his parents trusted him so he used that to his advantage. there is very little the parents could have done to stop this from happening.
yeah i got a few typos cuz i didnt care to look at my keyboard responding to your dumbass.Key element here is to look after your family and dont ignore them all their life, take interest in them.the're your fucking offspring, it is more understandable when your a single parent or were an orphan, but a situation like this where both kids had both parents that is unacceptable, and you fucking know it, otherwise a situation like this would happen more often, the parents failed
And have no regaurd for your family, if you love your family members you will do anything to know all about them, thats logic you cant bypass on me with any articulate response i have you all SHOT DOWN if you oppose my logic,ill rape any justification you have toward it
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain.
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain.
@MadMAn12gaugehahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain.
@MadMAn12gaugehahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahhahah woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
and yes i know this from experience, not to make an excuse for my behavoir but if my own family was as good as theirs having BOTH PARENTS i wouldnt be a peice of shit myself and a killer, i didnt have the luxury to have both parents, instead i have nobody and have been disregaurded by my family...So Yes this IS a Damn personal arguement here vs that bullshit comment and i hope u reconsider you thinking on that
this is bullshit and an oversight....family values come first and when they dont, you see murderers....Im tired of people feeling bad for the parents and families, and propaganda of "oh they were master manipulators" bullshit....Mothers know their sons.. and a fathers should know their sons if they arnt peices of shit to begin with, which that is a common situation, bad parenting and family creates this, and theres no remorse for the family of the killers, they failed as family members
Eric And Dylan.. Now two boys who weren't normal from the beginning one was Suicidal and the other was a Homicidal Maniac (spelled right). One more thing I guess when Susan (Dylan's mother) Looked in his Journal, she found out that he was Suicidal, So I guess he was that one. The creepy part is that Dylan Klebold predicted the future, You know the plane crashing into New york he wrote in his journal. Maybe something similar 9/11.
they quote Shakespeare when he said that evil comes out of good wombs. This was not the parents. This was the fucking kids at their school to bliss to care about their feelings.
i feel so bad for the parents because they lost a son and they have to deal with the guilt and the (whats the word) critizism from the society. They love their sons and they have no ideo what was going to happen. We as a society need to be more respectful and look past the fact of what their kids did and realize that they are people. This man said it all really.
@usmcgunner58 I think you read my comment incorrectly. I never said there wasn't negligence (which there will be unequivocally for any parent not inducing an autocracy), but that they were caring, and possessed many of the traits of my own parents for example, where I ~too~ was into guns, explosives, anarchy, etc., but a complete FOIL to Harris, even with my Major Depressive Disorder, ADD, and Anxiety Disorder (with countless SSRI's and DRI's as well, obviously; concomitant benzo's as well).
@usmcgunner58 On a side note, can you post your thesis online; I'm interested in reading it, and your point of view from your research (please cite research sources, obviously =P).
I can give you my e-mail if you want; or if you're okay with it being public, just use a tinyurlDOTcom/Thesis4TAz address.
Please just pmsg me after you're done, as I don't frequent this board.
please contact me in some way. i would love to know your thoughts. my thesis is based on this from the poignant impact it had on me in highschool. i remember being shocked - i still am. reply to me, lets think of a way to get in touch. Please? :)
There is a simple solution for this, let the students carry guns. TA fucking DA! problem solved. Have you noticed all the shootings happen in schools/malls/fitness centers/planes/ places where people dont/cant arm themselves. These self conscious pussy faggots would have got drilled in the head after firing the first few shots.
@skaterock7734 that is a stupid idea because then anyone who even thought about it wqould be able to do it straight away and everyone in the school would start shooting at eachother you fucking idiot
Do you have down syndrome? The people are going to shoot at the guy that starts it, and it would be a prevention factor. If I was going to shoot a place up, I would go somewhere that was safe for me to do so. I would be afraid if people are armed. Also, look at the statistics, armed places have the lowest crime. And another point would be, EVEN if the man DID want to shoot up the school, he wouldn't be able to kill as many.
@skaterock7734 yes but if more people had guns, more people would want to go out and shoot people. think about it. the more people with guns, the higher the percentage of them that would want to go around shooting people. i see what you mean the other people could jus shoot them but they wouldnt need to if no one had guns
You are absolutely right. If it was possible to get rid of ALL guns, I would agree with you. But it is not. So what happens, is the good people dont carry guns, and the crazy fucks do because they dont care. Making it a more dangerous situation.
@skaterock7734 yes but because it is so easy i see what you mean civilians can get guns to protect themselves but this also means gangs can get even more guns just as easily but i guess your kinda right so i give in lol thats the first time ive ever given in to someone on youtube so you should be proud of yourself :P
@skaterock7734 i still think they are bad and wish no one had them but the world aint perfect. im really against them because when i went on holiday there was a guy outside the shop i was in and he had a huge shotgun and shot someone. Im 15 :S scared me shitless :P
True like I said, But it is better for everyone to have them then for a few people too. It makes it much safer. Im 15 too, shit like that dosent scare me anymore.
but you don't study the right things. if you did, you would realize columbine had nothing to do with gun control. and high schoolers carrying guns is so ludicrous a monkey would disagree. your irrational tendancies are showing.
Columbine had everything to do with gun control, the government forbids the carry of weapons in school, making it a free zone for crazy fucks. Trust me, If I wanted to kill 30 people TOMORROW in my school I could, all because of stupid fuckheads like you. Now, if you actually want to debate and make a point, be my guest, if not....your wasting my time. I have better things to do that would make my prospects more virtuous.
If you wanted to kill 30 people in your school, it would have nothing to do with me or anyone else. It would be your decision. My point, dear boy, is gun control laws are in place for a reason. Irrational 15 year old boys have no business carrying a gun to school. Now run along and watch what you say before I report you, because that statement makes me incredibly nervous for the wellbeing of your peers.
I never said anything threatening you stupid cunt. I was simply making a point. And you should be concerned to know it is so easy to commit mass murder. It would defiantly have everything to do with everyone else, the task could either be flawless, or EXTREMELY hard. Gun control laws are put in place for the only reason that government wants to try and be the "big brother" of the people, but are to stupid to accomplish anything righteous. Canada/New York dont have more crime by coincidence.
Stop name calling. If you were saying something intelligent, I would commend you. I don't care if you are 58 years old, your statements on gun control are irrational, ill-informed, and full of conspiracy theory ridiculousness. No one person over the age of 21 except the mentally ill is going to agree with you that you should be allowed to bear arms at school or before the age of 18. Best of luck in your life. I have a feeling you may need it.
Also sweetie, check into Canada's crime rate before making a statement like that...and check your spelling. You are asking yourself the right questions, and that's great. However, you are giving ill informed answers and your theories are such that no one will listen. There are some great, reputable statistic sites out there ifyou are interested I'd be happy to share.
Now, I really am done arguing now. Considering the only point you have made is the predictable "your only 16 you cant possible be smarter than me" one, farewell. I dont want to talk about infamous school shootings, shootings that are easily prevented, but aren't for the simple reason that is people of low intellect like yours exist.
By reporting freedom of speech, you yourself are nothing more than another in a herd of cattle, dominated by sexually deviant politicians through fear.
@skaterock7734 Have you ever seen the incidences of shootings in Texas? The statistics are sick. That's no solution at ALL; and this comes from a pro-protection hunter (24 years old).
@TAz69x Its nice you didnt go like "your a fucking retard" I respect a man who can actually debate. My friend, the violent crime in America arises from the gang and drug violence...another government made problem just like the prohibition. Canada has far more robberys and crime dealing with guns, that is the crime that is not drug related. The shootings in the schools occour far more than the ones say in the city. Excluding new york (which has lots of crime because you cannot carry there)
@TAz69x Guns are most defiantly for carrying, it decreases crime greatly. If it were possible to take away ALL guns, granted, it would be a much more safe sociaty. But that is not realistic, what ends up happening is the criminals keep the guns and the law abiding citizens turn them in. Thus creating more crime. Schools and planes would be much much safer if you could carry in them. The criminals are going to think twice before shooting a place up where people are carrying. Its obvious logic.
columbine is a complete cover up and most of the people involved are too "blind" to see the actual facts..Cmon 95 bombs by 2 people and NO-ONE saw them...?????plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Master manipulatives? I don't agree. They were very normal guys, just with a lot of rage inside. If you let that anger keep on boiling inside, you will also get more of hate. Hate and Anger go hand in hand towards destruction/killing!
Many things could have been done to prevent this from happening, but well, most didn't took warnings to serious, and then another bloody lesson learned and great grief of loss of both victims and killers.
@SylviaPenguin They used to say they wanted to blow up the school everyday and people always heard them say it, to quote them "We didn't think they would actually do it."
@SylviaPenguin No see that's incorrect. I hate when people place blame entirely on environmental influences like "bullying". Yes, bullying is a very large contributor to overcontrolled hostility and inner rage, but by no means were Eric and Dylan a "special case" in terms of the amount of bullying they received. Both lived in their own personal fables, overthinking the uniqueness of the lives they endured, when in reality there were/still are children who have it much worse.
@SylviaPenguin What i'm saying is, don't underestimate the influence of personal psychopathic factors. In a note written by Eric, he mentions how he doesn't blame his father or mother at all, and that killing was just an enjoyable thing for him. What about their motives? To kill all the jocks? Well how hypocritical because their targets were completely RANDOM. Eric and Dylan were weak, pathetic cowards, pretending like they were defending the weak, when they really KILLED the defenseless.
the were not against Christianity....that was a fucking ploy, get your facts straight, no one build bombs for them, they built their own bombs, god you moronic saps get your facts straight
Klebold was obviously deeply disturbed but Harris was a textbook psychopath. Holding his parents responsible would be like holding the families of Ted Bundy or John Gacy or Gary Ridgway or Cho Seung-Hui responsible for their crimes.
he was depressed and manipulated by eric basicly, even their parents admitted tht at the last while he was under a massive influence from eric, sure, its not great when you do this, im not saying its rite, but dylan was just kinda dragged along.
But...Dylan wasn't manipulated to kill people. Personally, you can look at the videos they made together, and see the rage he shared with Eric.
Dylan was perhaps more sensitive, and had more inner conflict than Eric. It seemed Dylan would to have liked a normal life, but he was quick to end it with his pal since shit wasn't looking up.
They just picked an easy decision to give up on life which always makes people more dangerous than they are.
The creators of south park went to columbine and were outcasts and chose to be creative, in a sick way. Going down to south park friendly people everywhere, humble folk without temptation going to grab some peace of mind!!!
if u actually pay attention to the meanings and the messages each or most of the southpark episodes bring to the table ude be amazed at how much it brings to the table, its a very intelligent show if u pay attention
The Hour I First Believed is so emotive and powerful. A wonderful author with such devastating content. I could never get my head around people blaming the parents, they were almost fully grown men, with minds of their own,and with the level of determination that they possessed, this tragedy was inevitable. It's always the most difficult for those left behind.
Part of me says the parents saw clues and another part says they had no idea. I think some signs were overlooked or ignored which is why I still look down on the parents regardless.
well i get what your saying, but i personally think that even if their parents had some sort of clue, that they wouldnt want to think that their child would be that kind of person that would do that, No parent wants to believe that their child has it in them to kill people or to do any other crimes like that... but on the other hand, i think they had no idea that was going on inside their kids, and i dont think thier parents should be looked down upon for what their children did..
it had nothing to do with how they were raised and it had nothing to do with their parents IT HAD TO DO WITH THE FUCKING WORLD WAKE UP their parents are victims also
my heart goes out to all who were wounded....even parents of the killers and anyone who loved them. Sick people do sick things. Those of us who have had murdered loved ones must learn that control is something we dont have over anyone...not our children or the people they come into contact with. We must give them tools to deal with emotions..and pray they dont become prey.
you cant blame the parents either, but noone lisened to them so thats what happened, but more importantly isnt it alittle twisted how a kid can buy a gun no questions asked in the first place....
No one listened to them because there was nothing to listen to. Their classmates have said in interviews that eric and dylan were both very quiet and usually kept to themselves. they manipulated everyone into thinking that they were nice kids when really, they were secretly planning to kill hundreds of people. no one saw this coming and you can't really blame them.
Even though he was a horrible president, he in no way contributed to that nor was he the president at the time. The only people to blame are Eric and Dylan themselves and those who didnt listen to them.
I feel bad for their parents. Eric and Dylan brought shame on their entire families. They will never be able to live in peace after what their kids did. They were so fucking selfish.
No, my friend. I think YOU are the one who doesn't understand. Life sucks; deal with it! They dealt with their anger the wrong way and now their families are being blamed for their actions. They knew their families would be torn over what they did, but they did it anyway to satisfy their disgusting urge to kill innocent people. That's called BEING SELFISH.
life sucks my ass, what do you think im condoneing them? no of course not what they did is disgusting, but still your demonizeing them when you shouldnt, they were victums of their own sin, they merely paid the piper and gave in to inpulse but in no way where they monster simply animals, unaware
I agree with what you're saying but I wasn't demoralizing them. I was just expressing my sympathy for what their families had to go through and what they're STILL going through all because their selfish kids made a stupid mistake.
you dont understand what its like to be the kid at school that gets picked on for being different, the world needs to learn a lesson, YOU BETTER ACCEPT EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU MEET AND BE NICE EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THIER APPERANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THE COLUMBINE SHOOTING IS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
it wasnt the kids fault, it was the schools, the parents, the world.
I like how you're preaching about how people should be nice to everyone and at the same time you're telling me to shut the hell up. And yes, i DO know what it's like to be picked on because i was bullied in school. pointing fingers is the wrong way to go about it. those kids were 100% responsible for their own actions. they could have moved on with their lives and they could have risen above the people who bullied them but they took the coward's way out and 13 innocent people had to pay for it.
f.y.i. nobody bullied them, the shooting had nothing to do with bullies just a general contempt for the entire world on Eric's part and a desire to just gtfo of the world on Dylan's.
yeah they were still bullied brown and morris and adams all have said in many documentries, even a girl crying whilst being interviewed says "I begged him for 10 minuutes not to shoot me so he shot the girl in stead in the head right in front of me and the black kid cause he was black. he put the gun to my head and said this was because every one was mean to him last year"
Mhm. On the extended phone call from the library, when it got really silent, you can hear Dylan scream something, and then the voice of who was later figured to be Josh Tomlin says "NO I DONT" and then you hear Dylan screma "Neither did I!" Dylan shoots, then you hear Erics shotgun. Theres no doubt they were bullied.
yup they said it many times in the journel they wanted to get back at the shit they got.. people who knew them agree.. they said themselves numerous timesduring the shooting. they were. they hung out with a large group of people.. but the people were the loser well not losers but they werent the popular people...
Like brooks even said, "they were the losers of the losers, and not just the senior class, but out ofthe whole school" "The lesson to learn is, it was easier to kill the kids, than fit in with them.."
I read somewhere he wanted to kill one of the guys he killed in the library because he depants him in gym one time. I also read when Dylan first attended Columbine. he was beaten up in the locker rooms, and Eric came in and helped him up and helped him clean his face off, and thats how Eric and Dylan became friends, i dont know if its true or not, but it seems plausible.
I assume the person your refering to is Even Todd. He was a jock but Dylan said "Im going to let this fat fuck live" Eric wasn't paying attention cuz he was dizzy from his broken nose givin by the kick of his gun after he killed Cassie Bernall. Eric & Dylan were friends before they went to Columbine. they met in grade 7 or 8 at Ken Caryl Middle School by Brooks Brown
I completely agree with you.. I lived with horrible bullying in school but I knew HS is only a short time in my life and not worth all the stupidity of all the HS kids mean and cruel remarks.. i just dont get it.. and if they were pissed at the jocks.. who they killed makes little to no sense ...
You sound like you might need to talk to someone. I was picked on too, beaten up and even had my head flushed in a toilet. But I didn't shoot anyone. Some people are stupid and mean, but you determine your own path in life. Eric and Dylan chose wrong. If only they'd held out a few more months they'd have realized that high school doesn't mean anything. It sucks, and then it's over and your real life begins anew. I sympathize with the victims, who never had that opportunity.
i just finished middle school and every single day of school i was emotionally and physically picked on. i tried to tell my parents and teachers but no one would listen to me since im what they percieve to be "satan worshiping, attention wanting, gothic freak" , i think they should have only aimed for the kids who picked on them though, because if i ever did this i would only aim for the kids who i thought the world would better off without including myself. thats my honest opinion.
The notion of cramming teenagers in a day-care/prison and calling it "education" is a historically recent notion, and it is not natural. I used to laugh at homeschooling, but now I think it makes a ton of sense - particuarly with modern technology to assist the learning process.
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because your child has the ability to choose where they r in this world. whether they hav the brains and looks to lead the popular crowd, fit in with it or be far below it. its their choice
harris and klebold were badass
bitcyknw 2 weeks ago
I actually talked to Kathy and Wayne(Eric's Parents) about 2 years ago. There is no doubt that they still are hurting from what Eric did.
immastunnabby 5 months ago
@immastunnabby Really? Because I read an article about them meeting the Mausers in which Wayne seemed to come off very detached.
I'd like to hear more about how you talked to them.
Hellblazer311 4 months ago
@immastunnabby no u didnt stfu and stop trying to get attention
bitcyknw 2 weeks ago
That's sad, I didn't know they each had a brother.
420Guitar420 6 months ago
@BlackHawksSuckDick - I agree with telling them they're a Bunch of Hypocritical Losers. Some People never Learn.
soeffingwhat 6 months ago
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@MaskedReaper13 - Call it what you like, it means nothing to me.
soeffingwhat 7 months ago
@MaskedReaper13 - Oh how brave you are acting all Tough behind your Mom's Computer where you know no-one can find you. Your Mom must be calling you, its way past your Bedtime.
soeffingwhat 7 months ago
heroes
swimmer56764 7 months ago
@MaskedReaper13 - Oh shut up you stupid Poser, acting like you know everything. "NO ONE IS INNOCENT!!!!" eh? say that to a new born Baby or any young Child. And of course there are innocent People you stupid obnoxious Asshole. And if no is innocent then neither are you, so why not go and kill yourself! I'll say it again "the Kelbold/Harris way is NOT the way to deal with anything". End of Story.
soeffingwhat 7 months ago
Rather sad story, it must be really really emotional for Eric (and offcourse Dylan's) family..
They not only lost a son, they also have to live with the fact their son murdered kids. :/
CaptainP00face 7 months ago 2
@CaptainP00face i agree. its absolutely heartless when people say that the Harrises & the Klebold's AREN'T suffering, or that their agony doesn't continue to this day. they lost sons they raised & loved; how could they NOT be struggling? it's not their fault that 4/20 happened, they raised the boys as best they could. wherever the families are now, i hope they're coping with their pain & loss, & wish them only the best.
hectorssister 6 months ago 9
@hectorssister Just think how long people did this all to them and Eric & Dylan were patient yet not hestiant to bring thmeselves "JUSTICE" that otherwise would never come. Sad. What is wrong with people in our society to not stand up and stop harassment and bullying. I feel sorry for Eric and Dylan's families, maybe they did not know what was happening to their sons. And what a shitty school and shitty teachers that allowed and thus condoned the harassment and bullying.
TheLordspet 2 months ago
@MaskedReaper13
If you're stating that Hitler, Eric and Dylan were great man of justice, you can obviously expect a lot of bullshit over you, which is a good thing. Seems you lost common sense, I also find it disturbing to see your profile. You should get some mental help.
CaptainP00face 7 months ago
@MaskedReaper13 - I HATE HATE HATE Bullies, and I can understand wanting to make them suffer for making others Lives Hell, but Harris and Klebold did not kill only Bullies, they also murdered a lot of innocent Kids who had nothing to do with their difficult Lives. Everyone suffers from Hard times, but the Kelbold/Harris way is NOT the way to deal with it.
soeffingwhat 7 months ago
@MaskedReaper13 ohhh for a second i thought you really believed the horseshit you posted but that comment proved otherwise. :P dont you agree?
lilrockable 7 months ago
see thats the thing, they probably did'nt even kill the people who hurt them, instead they killed the innocent, people like you really should think about what it is like to be one of the families of those who were INNOCENTLY killed. they are not heroes, nor are they martyrs. The real martyrs are those who were killed such as Racheal. really how can you defend someone who kills innocent people? i suppose you defend hitler & saddam hussien too huh?
lilrockable 7 months ago
@MultiDollmaker we contribute good beer and strip joints. and dont talk to me about italy. those peasants are railroading that american amanda knox girl. using one cotton swab to collect multiple evidence samples...are these people in caveman times or what.
glennjridge 7 months ago
NEVERMIND :)
pinkthunderwonder 9 months ago
@pinkthunderwonder Are you quoting eric? XDD
HeatherrAdictionn 7 months ago
Which book is he talking about? I see three names of books hes written come up.
pinkthunderwonder 9 months ago
Must be tough to know your son is universally hated and is now burning in an agonizing hell.
talitakoomi 9 months ago
@talitakoomi Universally hated? Not really. I've seen a ton of fan pages dedicated to Harris and Klebold. On YouTube alone, there are thousands of comments praising them. Hated? Sure, but loved by many too.
Burning in Hell? I hate to tell you, but Hell doesn't exist, and neither does Heaven.
rtiven 9 months ago
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@rtiven the only people who loved those 2 nerds with guns are other nerds. you must be from germany or europe or someplace like it cause only a people who have a history of mass killing talk that way about other mass murderers. you proabbly would be the type who would fall for hitler.weak minded people always are sympathetic to evil people who murder the weak.
known12 9 months ago
@known12 First of all, I'm from Denmark, not Germany. Second, I never said that I love or idolise the Coumbine shooters. Sorry, dude, but I don't think there's anything great about mowing down peope in a school. No, I idolise philosophers and scientists; people who actually make a valuable contribution to mankind. Sorry, come again.
rtiven 9 months ago
@known12 You're the kind of person who believes everything the government and the media tells you.
You don't question anything or have any individual thoughts, you just go with the flow. In short, you're a sheep.
rtiven 9 months ago
@rtiven the government didnt tell everyone they shot innocent kids....the kids themself did. I'm not going to argue withy you. you are like a sheep in nazi germany praising people who kill. theres something wrong with you.you have to be mental to talk nice of killers.but then again, you are from europe. historically speaking you people arent the brightest people.seek help.
known12 9 months ago
@known12 The victims were the nerds, Eric AND Dylan were cool. Fuck the nerd victims and fat bitches. Eric and Dylan are number one
swimmer56764 7 months ago
@swimmer56764 - Stop trying to act all Tough behine your Computer you stupid little Troll-Poser. Stupid Morons like you can't fool anyone. If you think Harris and Klebold are so great then why don't you say that to the faces of the Victims families? Coward.
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@swimmer56764
lmfao you are such a troll.
thisphotoisproof 6 months ago
Well,it must have been hard for the parents,but how could you not know that your son had bombs,guns and ammunition hidden in his bedroom? I think his behavior might have given signs of his internal situation too. Were all of those things ignored? Maybe it could have been stopped if the parents paid a little more attention to them.
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Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were true warriors and are now martyrs...~*RIP*~
ReaperWithFangs 9 months ago
I so wish that Eric and Dylan could have gotten help! I wish I could have been there to be their friend and tell them I loved them.
TheDowntown86 10 months ago
@TheDowntown86 They had plenty of friends and were well loved. They both went through "help" after their arrests. Some things cannot be helped.
paperairplanes1 9 months ago
@TheDowntown86 Yeah while they put a 45 at your head... ill love to see that!!!!lol
efreeze2006 9 months ago
The Father failed as a father. Pretty obvious. Your skunkAnus son was just that. Pure loser extraOrdinaire. No, this is not me reacting emotionally at all. Just facing the facts. Only losers shoot little girls and others. If he had shot one or 2 guys who had endlessly belittled him - then i'd understand. But these 2 were total losers with nothing to offer. Glad they are dead.
robi2000 1 year ago 2
@robi2000 "No, this is not me reacting emotionally at all."
Well, you sound pretty emotional in your posts.
roestio90 9 months ago
@roestio90 newsflash for you: There's no sound in posts -they're in your own head and you can and obviously do project them wherever you wish. Happens to lots of people who project their own emotional desires onto others
robi2000 9 months ago
@robi2000 Newsflash for you: When I said sound, I didn't mean it literally. I meant as in your posts indicate that you're emotionally invested in this. Geez, why do people always have to be so nitpicking?
roestio90 9 months ago
@robi2000 And if you're not being emotional about this, then why are you using pejorative words when referring to Harris and Klebold?
roestio90 9 months ago
yawn
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@robi2000 Can't come up with a counter-arguement, so instead you decide to respond with mockery. Oh, well, I really shouldn't have expected much from someone like you. Nice day to you, kiddo.
roestio90 9 months ago
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bazoria19 1 year ago
I love you Eric David Harris <3333
LynnAnn222 1 year ago
The parents of Eric Harris are just as much to blame. HOw can they have amassed so many weapons and the parents not know? Clueless and negligent! The Apple does not fall far from the tree. Oh he is BRAVE to come to the reading? Burn in hell with your son.
JohnnaCal 1 year ago
@JohnnaCal hey i think thats a bit harsh like as you can see the dad is obviously effected for life take your comment else were
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FrankiEmo92 1 year ago
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Asshole....other peepz don´t realize that their kids are bullying "losers", which is the reason why this massacre happened.
NKA23 10 months ago
I love Eric Harris.
columbinekiller2 1 year ago
@columbinekiller2 Eric Harris was a bafoon with a gun. Your love is for a moron who had nothing positive to offer this planet .Nothing at all.
robi2000 1 year ago
@robi2000
And because everybody at his high school told him that, he went nuts and tried to kill everybody at his high school.
Which is actually strangely understandable to me.
They fucked him up, he killed them...it was wrong, but it was human.
NKA23 10 months ago
@NKA23 Did you know Rachel Scott ?? Tell me how she 'told him' anything and don't fantasize. Lots of stupid inexcusable acts are done by 'humans'
robi2000 10 months ago
@robi2000
That´s what I am talking about...we are ALL good AND evil.
If we´re treated unfairly we tend to turn angry, if our anger doesn´t find relief, we tend to turn "evil".
NKA23 10 months ago
@NKA23 yeah ok. The sky is also blue and water is wet. We ALL know humans have feelings and reactions. Only morons think that it's OK to shoot others because of some problems. EVERYONE deals with rudeness. EVERYONE deals with racism, mean people, frustration and disapointment. It's called LIFE. The only good thing these 2 deviant crybabies ever did right was shoot themselves. Once you decide to shoot others - you deserve no symapthy. They were selfish and weak and hateful
robi2000 10 months ago
@robi2000
Now, where did I say it was okay to shoot people?
So the US and their allies deserve no sympathie for bombing other countries as well?
Terrible things happen and somtimes "small" terrible things like bullying outsiders sum up to two of them running amok, that´s life as well.
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@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahah woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
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@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahah woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
I am the brother of a person who took someones life many years ago ..i watched my parents age tremendously and blame themselves ,unjustifyably ,perhaps for the rest of their lives ,although he did his best to make his ammends to them ,it will always be a stain on our good name of course as we were never brought up to hate ,.but were in a country divided by civil war ,not that that is any excuse ...but my sincere empathy goes out to the elders of these boys ,they have no blame in their sons deeds
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FrankiEmo92 1 year ago
uhhh does having weapons ring a bell of making pipe bombs in the bacement hit home...you have to be one dumb mother fucker to not see all that shit
MadMAn12gauge 1 year ago
@MadMAn12gauge speaking of dumb mother fuckers, learn how to spell, retard.
they betrayed their parents trust and hid weapons in places where they knew their parents wouldn't look. if eric knew that his parents would search his room, he would have hid the weapons in another place. but he knew that his parents trusted him so he used that to his advantage. there is very little the parents could have done to stop this from happening.
zepps88 1 year ago
yeah i got a few typos cuz i didnt care to look at my keyboard responding to your dumbass.Key element here is to look after your family and dont ignore them all their life, take interest in them.the're your fucking offspring, it is more understandable when your a single parent or were an orphan, but a situation like this where both kids had both parents that is unacceptable, and you fucking know it, otherwise a situation like this would happen more often, the parents failed
MadMAn12gauge 1 year ago
And have no regaurd for your family, if you love your family members you will do anything to know all about them, thats logic you cant bypass on me with any articulate response i have you all SHOT DOWN if you oppose my logic,ill rape any justification you have toward it
MadMAn12gauge 1 year ago
anyone that disagrees with me makes me SICK because you are obviously a primate and care nothing about anything but yourself
MadMAn12gauge 1 year ago
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain.
Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain.
Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
@MadMAn12gaugehahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain.
Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
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@MadMAn12gaugehahahahahahahahahahaha, woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
@MadMAn12gauge hahahahhahah woooooow shut your big mouth. you make me sick because you're clearly selfish and stupid in your little fucked up brain. Just another idiot ....
NickJonasxDina 1 year ago
and yes i know this from experience, not to make an excuse for my behavoir but if my own family was as good as theirs having BOTH PARENTS i wouldnt be a peice of shit myself and a killer, i didnt have the luxury to have both parents, instead i have nobody and have been disregaurded by my family...So Yes this IS a Damn personal arguement here vs that bullshit comment and i hope u reconsider you thinking on that
MadMAn12gauge 1 year ago
this is bullshit and an oversight....family values come first and when they dont, you see murderers....Im tired of people feeling bad for the parents and families, and propaganda of "oh they were master manipulators" bullshit....Mothers know their sons.. and a fathers should know their sons if they arnt peices of shit to begin with, which that is a common situation, bad parenting and family creates this, and theres no remorse for the family of the killers, they failed as family members
MadMAn12gauge 1 year ago
Honestly probably one of the saddest thing in US History
itsyaboyitsyaboy 1 year ago
What pisses me off is that that Harris faggot that killed himself was in a gang and his dad knew it. Betcha feel like a jackass now dontcha daddy.
iluvyouwyatt 1 year ago
Eric And Dylan.. Now two boys who weren't normal from the beginning one was Suicidal and the other was a Homicidal Maniac (spelled right). One more thing I guess when Susan (Dylan's mother) Looked in his Journal, she found out that he was Suicidal, So I guess he was that one. The creepy part is that Dylan Klebold predicted the future, You know the plane crashing into New york he wrote in his journal. Maybe something similar 9/11.
pika5211 1 year ago
they quote Shakespeare when he said that evil comes out of good wombs. This was not the parents. This was the fucking kids at their school to bliss to care about their feelings.
crazemelon 1 year ago
I had felt the way Eric and Dylan had but Eric and Dylan also killed inssent girls :( that made me cry
fishhand360 1 year ago
i feel so bad for the parents because they lost a son and they have to deal with the guilt and the (whats the word) critizism from the society. They love their sons and they have no ideo what was going to happen. We as a society need to be more respectful and look past the fact of what their kids did and realize that they are people. This man said it all really.
OMG123itsME1 1 year ago 2
I agree; if a teenager chooses to commit an action, they'll always find a way through one manner or another.
Plus, it's an impossible scenario for a parent to even imagine occurring.
They had good parents, very caring.
TAz69x 1 year ago
@TAz69x wrong. I wrote my masters thesis on Columbine and their parents were negligent. Look into it.
usmcgunner58 1 year ago
@usmcgunner58 I think you read my comment incorrectly. I never said there wasn't negligence (which there will be unequivocally for any parent not inducing an autocracy), but that they were caring, and possessed many of the traits of my own parents for example, where I ~too~ was into guns, explosives, anarchy, etc., but a complete FOIL to Harris, even with my Major Depressive Disorder, ADD, and Anxiety Disorder (with countless SSRI's and DRI's as well, obviously; concomitant benzo's as well).
TAz69x 1 year ago
@usmcgunner58 On a side note, can you post your thesis online; I'm interested in reading it, and your point of view from your research (please cite research sources, obviously =P).
I can give you my e-mail if you want; or if you're okay with it being public, just use a tinyurlDOTcom/Thesis4TAz address.
Please just pmsg me after you're done, as I don't frequent this board.
TAz69x 1 year ago
I could imagine my son doing something like that, or trying
Paulwhoisvegan 1 year ago
I wish to speak with the harrises again, i was only 9 when they were family freinds
Paulwhoisvegan 1 year ago
please contact me in some way. i would love to know your thoughts. my thesis is based on this from the poignant impact it had on me in highschool. i remember being shocked - i still am. reply to me, lets think of a way to get in touch. Please? :)
nikkiax2 1 year ago
There is a simple solution for this, let the students carry guns. TA fucking DA! problem solved. Have you noticed all the shootings happen in schools/malls/fitness centers/planes/ places where people dont/cant arm themselves. These self conscious pussy faggots would have got drilled in the head after firing the first few shots.
skaterock7734 2 years ago
@skaterock7734 that is a stupid idea because then anyone who even thought about it wqould be able to do it straight away and everyone in the school would start shooting at eachother you fucking idiot
Jiminibobster 1 year ago
Do you have down syndrome? The people are going to shoot at the guy that starts it, and it would be a prevention factor. If I was going to shoot a place up, I would go somewhere that was safe for me to do so. I would be afraid if people are armed. Also, look at the statistics, armed places have the lowest crime. And another point would be, EVEN if the man DID want to shoot up the school, he wouldn't be able to kill as many.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
@skaterock7734 yes but if more people had guns, more people would want to go out and shoot people. think about it. the more people with guns, the higher the percentage of them that would want to go around shooting people. i see what you mean the other people could jus shoot them but they wouldnt need to if no one had guns
Jiminibobster 1 year ago
You are absolutely right. If it was possible to get rid of ALL guns, I would agree with you. But it is not. So what happens, is the good people dont carry guns, and the crazy fucks do because they dont care. Making it a more dangerous situation.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
@skaterock7734 yes but because it is so easy i see what you mean civilians can get guns to protect themselves but this also means gangs can get even more guns just as easily but i guess your kinda right so i give in lol thats the first time ive ever given in to someone on youtube so you should be proud of yourself :P
Jiminibobster 1 year ago
Lol. Well, I respect you for not being stubborn and looking at it in a different way. I always used to think guns were bad too until I studied them.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
@skaterock7734 i still think they are bad and wish no one had them but the world aint perfect. im really against them because when i went on holiday there was a guy outside the shop i was in and he had a huge shotgun and shot someone. Im 15 :S scared me shitless :P
Jiminibobster 1 year ago
True like I said, But it is better for everyone to have them then for a few people too. It makes it much safer. Im 15 too, shit like that dosent scare me anymore.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
15. you know nothing of life.
nikkiax2 1 year ago
but you don't study the right things. if you did, you would realize columbine had nothing to do with gun control. and high schoolers carrying guns is so ludicrous a monkey would disagree. your irrational tendancies are showing.
nikkiax2 1 year ago
Columbine had everything to do with gun control, the government forbids the carry of weapons in school, making it a free zone for crazy fucks. Trust me, If I wanted to kill 30 people TOMORROW in my school I could, all because of stupid fuckheads like you. Now, if you actually want to debate and make a point, be my guest, if not....your wasting my time. I have better things to do that would make my prospects more virtuous.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
If you wanted to kill 30 people in your school, it would have nothing to do with me or anyone else. It would be your decision. My point, dear boy, is gun control laws are in place for a reason. Irrational 15 year old boys have no business carrying a gun to school. Now run along and watch what you say before I report you, because that statement makes me incredibly nervous for the wellbeing of your peers.
nikkiax2 1 year ago
I never said anything threatening you stupid cunt. I was simply making a point. And you should be concerned to know it is so easy to commit mass murder. It would defiantly have everything to do with everyone else, the task could either be flawless, or EXTREMELY hard. Gun control laws are put in place for the only reason that government wants to try and be the "big brother" of the people, but are to stupid to accomplish anything righteous. Canada/New York dont have more crime by coincidence.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
Stop name calling. If you were saying something intelligent, I would commend you. I don't care if you are 58 years old, your statements on gun control are irrational, ill-informed, and full of conspiracy theory ridiculousness. No one person over the age of 21 except the mentally ill is going to agree with you that you should be allowed to bear arms at school or before the age of 18. Best of luck in your life. I have a feeling you may need it.
nikkiax2 1 year ago
Also sweetie, check into Canada's crime rate before making a statement like that...and check your spelling. You are asking yourself the right questions, and that's great. However, you are giving ill informed answers and your theories are such that no one will listen. There are some great, reputable statistic sites out there ifyou are interested I'd be happy to share.
nikkiax2 1 year ago
Now, I really am done arguing now. Considering the only point you have made is the predictable "your only 16 you cant possible be smarter than me" one, farewell. I dont want to talk about infamous school shootings, shootings that are easily prevented, but aren't for the simple reason that is people of low intellect like yours exist.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
By reporting freedom of speech, you yourself are nothing more than another in a herd of cattle, dominated by sexually deviant politicians through fear.
terrikeedan 1 year ago
nothing to do with gun control. research more before you respond.
nikkiax2 1 year ago
What the fuck are you talking about.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
@skaterock7734 Have you ever seen the incidences of shootings in Texas? The statistics are sick. That's no solution at ALL; and this comes from a pro-protection hunter (24 years old).
Pistols for the home, not for casual dress.
TAz69x 1 year ago
@TAz69x Its nice you didnt go like "your a fucking retard" I respect a man who can actually debate. My friend, the violent crime in America arises from the gang and drug violence...another government made problem just like the prohibition. Canada has far more robberys and crime dealing with guns, that is the crime that is not drug related. The shootings in the schools occour far more than the ones say in the city. Excluding new york (which has lots of crime because you cannot carry there)
skaterock7734 1 year ago
@TAz69x Guns are most defiantly for carrying, it decreases crime greatly. If it were possible to take away ALL guns, granted, it would be a much more safe sociaty. But that is not realistic, what ends up happening is the criminals keep the guns and the law abiding citizens turn them in. Thus creating more crime. Schools and planes would be much much safer if you could carry in them. The criminals are going to think twice before shooting a place up where people are carrying. Its obvious logic.
skaterock7734 1 year ago
thanks simon about john quinn...
columbine is a complete cover up and most of the people involved are too "blind" to see the actual facts..Cmon 95 bombs by 2 people and NO-ONE saw them...?????plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
athe2007 2 years ago
can you provide any proof of this?
EisFenix 2 years ago
I'm in the middle of "The Hour I First Believed"
great book
JessiemaeFL78 2 years ago
Master manipulatives? I don't agree. They were very normal guys, just with a lot of rage inside. If you let that anger keep on boiling inside, you will also get more of hate. Hate and Anger go hand in hand towards destruction/killing!
Many things could have been done to prevent this from happening, but well, most didn't took warnings to serious, and then another bloody lesson learned and great grief of loss of both victims and killers.
Some people have to learn the "hard way".
SylviaPenguin 2 years ago 6
@SylviaPenguin They used to say they wanted to blow up the school everyday and people always heard them say it, to quote them "We didn't think they would actually do it."
fuckcomments 10 months ago
@SylviaPenguin No see that's incorrect. I hate when people place blame entirely on environmental influences like "bullying". Yes, bullying is a very large contributor to overcontrolled hostility and inner rage, but by no means were Eric and Dylan a "special case" in terms of the amount of bullying they received. Both lived in their own personal fables, overthinking the uniqueness of the lives they endured, when in reality there were/still are children who have it much worse.
abelign1991 10 months ago
@SylviaPenguin What i'm saying is, don't underestimate the influence of personal psychopathic factors. In a note written by Eric, he mentions how he doesn't blame his father or mother at all, and that killing was just an enjoyable thing for him. What about their motives? To kill all the jocks? Well how hypocritical because their targets were completely RANDOM. Eric and Dylan were weak, pathetic cowards, pretending like they were defending the weak, when they really KILLED the defenseless.
abelign1991 10 months ago 4
@SylviaPenguin If i didnt know any better, i'd say Eric and Dylan became the bullies.
abelign1991 10 months ago
i love how ppl pretend to know so much in their comments. lol
MrMeineNamen 2 years ago 2
Yeah I no right, only in America...
TheAtomic1234321 2 years ago
the were not against Christianity....that was a fucking ploy, get your facts straight, no one build bombs for them, they built their own bombs, god you moronic saps get your facts straight
MrPrice19 2 years ago
it wasnt just jocks...it was also god (chistians) and blacks
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chelseyPSYCHOPATH 2 years ago
Wait a tick...
You separate Christians, Blacks and Jocks like they're different races. You're so damn deluded.
SpartaClan 2 years ago 3
Klebold was obviously deeply disturbed but Harris was a textbook psychopath. Holding his parents responsible would be like holding the families of Ted Bundy or John Gacy or Gary Ridgway or Cho Seung-Hui responsible for their crimes.
jksonny 2 years ago 2
Yes it would be like that. For every tale, there is always at least an ounce of truth.
The parents should be held responsible in a social degree. But the loss of their children is something no parent deserves.
SpartaClan 2 years ago
he was depressed and manipulated by eric basicly, even their parents admitted tht at the last while he was under a massive influence from eric, sure, its not great when you do this, im not saying its rite, but dylan was just kinda dragged along.
RoyLikesKMFDM 2 years ago
I can tell you're a kid, so I'ma be gentle.
But...Dylan wasn't manipulated to kill people. Personally, you can look at the videos they made together, and see the rage he shared with Eric.
Dylan was perhaps more sensitive, and had more inner conflict than Eric. It seemed Dylan would to have liked a normal life, but he was quick to end it with his pal since shit wasn't looking up.
They just picked an easy decision to give up on life which always makes people more dangerous than they are.
depletable 2 years ago 6
The creators of south park went to columbine and were outcasts and chose to be creative, in a sick way. Going down to south park friendly people everywhere, humble folk without temptation going to grab some peace of mind!!!
tatorsal 2 years ago
if u actually pay attention to the meanings and the messages each or most of the southpark episodes bring to the table ude be amazed at how much it brings to the table, its a very intelligent show if u pay attention
lawlatsociety57 2 years ago
The Hour I First Believed is so emotive and powerful. A wonderful author with such devastating content. I could never get my head around people blaming the parents, they were almost fully grown men, with minds of their own,and with the level of determination that they possessed, this tragedy was inevitable. It's always the most difficult for those left behind.
jakeishot4me 2 years ago
Part of me says the parents saw clues and another part says they had no idea. I think some signs were overlooked or ignored which is why I still look down on the parents regardless.
enors412 2 years ago 2
well i get what your saying, but i personally think that even if their parents had some sort of clue, that they wouldnt want to think that their child would be that kind of person that would do that, No parent wants to believe that their child has it in them to kill people or to do any other crimes like that... but on the other hand, i think they had no idea that was going on inside their kids, and i dont think thier parents should be looked down upon for what their children did..
Katiexxbabyxx 2 years ago 15
Agreed. No matter how well parents raise their kids, or the level of involvement they have, the kids will ultimately make their own choices.
Ravewithme19 2 years ago 3
/facepalm
lol you guys I think slaphead is joking.
REBdomina 2 years ago
it had nothing to do with how they were raised and it had nothing to do with their parents IT HAD TO DO WITH THE FUCKING WORLD WAKE UP their parents are victims also
nikid1025 2 years ago 4
my heart goes out to all who were wounded....even parents of the killers and anyone who loved them. Sick people do sick things. Those of us who have had murdered loved ones must learn that control is something we dont have over anyone...not our children or the people they come into contact with. We must give them tools to deal with emotions..and pray they dont become prey.
Candi5150 2 years ago
you cant blame the parents either, but noone lisened to them so thats what happened, but more importantly isnt it alittle twisted how a kid can buy a gun no questions asked in the first place....
shadow6543 2 years ago
No one listened to them because there was nothing to listen to. Their classmates have said in interviews that eric and dylan were both very quiet and usually kept to themselves. they manipulated everyone into thinking that they were nice kids when really, they were secretly planning to kill hundreds of people. no one saw this coming and you can't really blame them.
zepps88 2 years ago
Even though he was a horrible president, he in no way contributed to that nor was he the president at the time. The only people to blame are Eric and Dylan themselves and those who didnt listen to them.
SeveredG0ldfish 2 years ago
Are you fucking kidding me you jackass?
This was a huge killing and bush wasnt even the president during the time, clinton was.
chinthenatureboy 2 years ago 8
I would agree on the book being kind of depressing. It did peak my interest in learning more about Columbine though.
SVSARDUDE 2 years ago
I feel bad for their parents. Eric and Dylan brought shame on their entire families. They will never be able to live in peace after what their kids did. They were so fucking selfish.
zepps88 2 years ago 11
your kidding right? someone like you couldnt even begin to understand
shadow6543 2 years ago
No, my friend. I think YOU are the one who doesn't understand. Life sucks; deal with it! They dealt with their anger the wrong way and now their families are being blamed for their actions. They knew their families would be torn over what they did, but they did it anyway to satisfy their disgusting urge to kill innocent people. That's called BEING SELFISH.
zepps88 2 years ago
life sucks my ass, what do you think im condoneing them? no of course not what they did is disgusting, but still your demonizeing them when you shouldnt, they were victums of their own sin, they merely paid the piper and gave in to inpulse but in no way where they monster simply animals, unaware
shadow6543 2 years ago
I agree with what you're saying but I wasn't demoralizing them. I was just expressing my sympathy for what their families had to go through and what they're STILL going through all because their selfish kids made a stupid mistake.
zepps88 2 years ago
shut the hell up
you dont understand what its like to be the kid at school that gets picked on for being different, the world needs to learn a lesson, YOU BETTER ACCEPT EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU MEET AND BE NICE EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THIER APPERANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THE COLUMBINE SHOOTING IS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
it wasnt the kids fault, it was the schools, the parents, the world.
JUST BE KIND TO EVERYONE
thats not a hard task
LEARN FROM THIS,
hermitcrabgirlsarah 2 years ago
I like how you're preaching about how people should be nice to everyone and at the same time you're telling me to shut the hell up. And yes, i DO know what it's like to be picked on because i was bullied in school. pointing fingers is the wrong way to go about it. those kids were 100% responsible for their own actions. they could have moved on with their lives and they could have risen above the people who bullied them but they took the coward's way out and 13 innocent people had to pay for it.
zepps88 2 years ago
f.y.i. nobody bullied them, the shooting had nothing to do with bullies just a general contempt for the entire world on Eric's part and a desire to just gtfo of the world on Dylan's.
REBdomina 2 years ago
yeah they were still bullied brown and morris and adams all have said in many documentries, even a girl crying whilst being interviewed says "I begged him for 10 minuutes not to shoot me so he shot the girl in stead in the head right in front of me and the black kid cause he was black. he put the gun to my head and said this was because every one was mean to him last year"
ZombieCallum 2 years ago
Mhm. On the extended phone call from the library, when it got really silent, you can hear Dylan scream something, and then the voice of who was later figured to be Josh Tomlin says "NO I DONT" and then you hear Dylan screma "Neither did I!" Dylan shoots, then you hear Erics shotgun. Theres no doubt they were bullied.
KMFDM420 2 years ago 3
yup they said it many times in the journel they wanted to get back at the shit they got.. people who knew them agree.. they said themselves numerous timesduring the shooting. they were. they hung out with a large group of people.. but the people were the loser well not losers but they werent the popular people...
ZombieCallum 2 years ago
Like brooks even said, "they were the losers of the losers, and not just the senior class, but out ofthe whole school" "The lesson to learn is, it was easier to kill the kids, than fit in with them.."
KMFDM420 2 years ago
morris even said that in gym eric was picked on but dylan not as much because he was a bigger guy.
ZombieCallum 2 years ago
I read somewhere he wanted to kill one of the guys he killed in the library because he depants him in gym one time. I also read when Dylan first attended Columbine. he was beaten up in the locker rooms, and Eric came in and helped him up and helped him clean his face off, and thats how Eric and Dylan became friends, i dont know if its true or not, but it seems plausible.
KMFDM420 2 years ago
I assume the person your refering to is Even Todd. He was a jock but Dylan said "Im going to let this fat fuck live" Eric wasn't paying attention cuz he was dizzy from his broken nose givin by the kick of his gun after he killed Cassie Bernall. Eric & Dylan were friends before they went to Columbine. they met in grade 7 or 8 at Ken Caryl Middle School by Brooks Brown
HBKanedge818 2 years ago
It was John Tomlin not Josh. I'm sure that was a typing error.
Jerseygirl2238 2 years ago
I completely agree with you.. I lived with horrible bullying in school but I knew HS is only a short time in my life and not worth all the stupidity of all the HS kids mean and cruel remarks.. i just dont get it.. and if they were pissed at the jocks.. who they killed makes little to no sense ...
Tricialeigh55 2 years ago
They were pissed at the WORLD....that's why they did what they did
MrsSarb 2 years ago
yeah DUH!! that is what i said.. before..
jww2379 2 years ago
I was replying to Tricialeigh's comment: "i just dont get it.. and if they were pissed at the jocks.. who they killed makes little to no sense ... "
MrsSarb 2 years ago
You sound like you might need to talk to someone. I was picked on too, beaten up and even had my head flushed in a toilet. But I didn't shoot anyone. Some people are stupid and mean, but you determine your own path in life. Eric and Dylan chose wrong. If only they'd held out a few more months they'd have realized that high school doesn't mean anything. It sucks, and then it's over and your real life begins anew. I sympathize with the victims, who never had that opportunity.
SSedmak 2 years ago 2
i just finished middle school and every single day of school i was emotionally and physically picked on. i tried to tell my parents and teachers but no one would listen to me since im what they percieve to be "satan worshiping, attention wanting, gothic freak" , i think they should have only aimed for the kids who picked on them though, because if i ever did this i would only aim for the kids who i thought the world would better off without including myself. thats my honest opinion.
hermitcrabgirlsarah 2 years ago
This comment makes me think though-why then do we subject our children to this torture that has become known as 'high school'?
opalexian 2 years ago
The notion of cramming teenagers in a day-care/prison and calling it "education" is a historically recent notion, and it is not natural. I used to laugh at homeschooling, but now I think it makes a ton of sense - particuarly with modern technology to assist the learning process.
SSedmak 2 years ago 8
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because your child has the ability to choose where they r in this world. whether they hav the brains and looks to lead the popular crowd, fit in with it or be far below it. its their choice
lawlatsociety57 2 years ago