@fortunne Shh, not too loud, the RonBots might hear you then begin insulting you! Its what they generally do when you post a statement that disagrees with Paul's views!
You know what it also says Cenk? It says all powers not expressly given to the Federal Government are given to the states, HENCE RON PAUL IS RIGHT YOU RETARD!
Ron Paul says in one of his interviews he has no illusions about how difficult it will be to phase out all of the programs and it wouldn't happen all at once. You make an argument that the federal government should be able to regulate commerce, but we are supposed to have a free (of government interference) market. I think you are also forgetting states' rights. States are supposed to handle the laws not specified in the national constituation.
@kleenextx >You make an argument that the federal government should be able to regulate commerce
The 10th amendment says EXACTLY that the government has the power to regulate interstate commerce. Or don't you believe in following the Constitution?
Ron Paul is correct on all points he mentioned. In fact, The Constitution in fact states that people can be taxed, but only if a census was performed the previous year. It was changed to get money quickly for ww2 and was only supposed to be TEMPORARY. (Just like when social security numbers were first issued the govt said they would never be used to track ppl!!!) What is the purpose of the dept of ed? Everything it does can be done at state lvls. I am running out of room, so do ur own homework!
He's not saying that the Consitution says the government should not provide any programs or regulations. He's saying that the FEDERAL government should not be doing this. The reason for this is not a cop out, it is simply a realist view based on our human nature. When we give these snakes in Washington DC who have no regard for the money we pay them in taxes, they spend it frivolously. At least if we leave it to the states, the programs are more accountable to local voters and constituents.
@cohavideos I agree and disagree with you in Michigan they cut public education, ended all mental hospitals so now these ppl are on the streets or in prision, increased prision spending, in the process of cutting the arts, etc. I say they are all flawed & it won't make a bit of difference,
uhm. turks, you do realize that when he says "no paper money" it means "no printing MORE when you run out" WHICH IS INFLATION! are you pro inflation turks? or are you just that stupid, and dont know what Paper Money means?
@MinisterAilingTongue I support science. I also support the use of feminine hygene products, and toilet paper, when necessary. I dont support Govt funding for toilet paper, and feminine hygene products.
Gold has become a consumable commodity. Because of that the commodity markets will be setting the price of gold, one way or another. Meaning gold is no longer a stabilizing factor. The value of the dollars will be set by commodity exchange speculators. Unless Paul can support the Federal government interfering with private business dealings.Paul is 1 of those libertarians who think those those more powerful than they will treat them fairly. Fools
@waswestkan Gold is really not much of a consumable commodity at all. Most all of the gold ever mined is still hoarded. That makes it different from nearly every other commodity. Speculators ( just a nasty name for investors, or "people") also set the value of the dollar. There is no differene that way. The difference though is major. The dollar isnt anything. Gold happens to be gold, which happens to actually be something. Something is better than a wet dream.
Hey Mr. Cenk Uygur... The Constitution does NOT say PROVIDE for the General Welfare. It is clearly written: PROMOTE the General Welfare. You might consider reading the damn thing before you spew falsehoods like that.
@bigken61 More importantly, it says general welfare of the Unite States, not people. Preceding the statement, it states "defence", so the meaning is of policies of the nation, not individuals. In Constitution, there are numerous reference to people, States, and United States, each meaning a different thing, obviously.
"All the perplexities, confusion and distresses in America arise not from defects in the constitution or confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation." - John Adams
I think the biggest issue with TYT's attacks on Paul is they make it sound like no other country has ever done without most of these things. The fact is, a lot of our 'fellow' countries do without a 'multi-headed beast' of government departments. And Paul(in full context), supports holding onto Social Security, even though it's unconstitutional, because it's integrated so much into our society. He would like to get us off the 'drip' over a period of time,introducing alternatives.
So what this video is implying is the "It's ok that the united states government does whatever the fuck it wants under the condition that it's either not covered by the constitution or it says it can". The constitution is (in essence) a list of things the people have given them permission to regulate. Saying what this man is saying is like when a parent yells at their child for shoving all his toys under the bed instead of cleaning his room and he says "But you didn't tell me I couldn't do that"
@TeamMagique So in addition to the above statement, I would like to point out there are TONS of alternatives to medicare, Medicaid, social security, income tax, and etc.. This video only states what he is opposed to with little to no understanding of what the alternatives are. The caveman reference was one of them. It's like people have no idea what a tariff is. The government should be SMALL. Giving them limitless power is in no way good. Every law congress passes makes us less free.
@luvcheney1 Yes, and that should be ALL the powers they have and nothing more. If the founding fathers saw this shit, they would roll in their graves. They did not fight to make us free only so we could turn on ourselves with crap like the patriot act and the indefinite detention bill. I am surprised that no lawyers constantly file class action lawsuits on a daily basis to get rid of the evil shit.
Wow, this guy in not very intelligent. Good for him for making this channel though. It's unfortunate he does less thinking than feeling. Very obnoxious character too.
This guy needs to get a clue!!!! The Constitution does not say what the government can do it says what they CAN'T do!!!! Also the Constitution does NOT say what the people rights are, the Bill of Rights does. When will people start getting that?
@payasoinfeliz Not exactly! I'm trying to assure people that Ron Paul will probably get "some" of his policies pass as president. Remember, George W. Bush wanted to put Social Security on the Wall-Street stock exchange market, but he fail to accomplish that even though he got everything else like two wars, tax-cuts, and a second term.
@sholmesful Are you against privatization of Social Security? At this point, already roped into a bad situation, phasing in privatization makes sense to me.
@luvcheney1 I don't know enough about the privatization of Social Security to have a good answer. If a senior citzen wants to us his/her SS on the stock market then that is his or her right. However, some senior citzens aren't qualified to make that decision, and I don't think the people or families who care for senior citzen(s) should be gambling with SS money or making risky investments. SS was created in the 1930's to be a program for seniors, and it shouldn't be altered.
@sholmesful SS is a shameful program because it is taking the part of "saving" up for retirement. The main issue is that is does NOT save up ANY capital at all. All capital taken under this pretense is spent on current retirees, and what goes into the "Trust Fund" is immediately loaned to the Treasury, and spent as well. Many folks complain about inequality of wealth in US. Too bad our retirement savings arent WEALTH. SS Trustees state $19 Trillion short of assets to fund program.
@luvcheney1 According to others in the media, SS has enough funds to last seniors for many years. What I don't undertand is why you describe SS as a bank. A bank has money or capital, but SS isn't design to work that way. Social Security was created in the 1930's to show the world that we take care of our seniors by keeping our promises.
@sholmesful According to the US Govt`s OWN 2009 "Social Security and Medicare Trustees Report", they show the combined unfunded liability of these two programs has reached nearly $107 trillion in today's dollars! That is about seven times the size of the U.S. economy and 10 times the size of the outstanding national debt."
@luvcheney1 So what's the alternative, tell the elderly that they are not entititled to what they were promised because somebody couldn't get the math right back in the 1930's. Cutting spending in "some" areas is fine, but if you support short-changing the elderly out of what they were promised then I not on board with that. The scary image I have in my mind is the commercial of an old woman in a wheel chair being thrown off a cliff. The commercial was in reference to med-care.
@sholmesful I guess you are right, telling the truth on the matter is unfair. Lets just pretend that the math works out just fine, stick our heads up our asses, and forget about it. Is THAT your plan? How about honesty? Its not right when media states all is well, when it is NOT. Obama promised to cut $500 billion out of MediCare already. That is one of the major reasons the CBO could score ObamaCare as being "balanced". Fucking the elderly is already planned, by Obama.
@luvcheney1 Hey, I'm all for the truth! I just don't like the idea making things look like its all the elderly's faulth, which will convince others that it's okay to balance the buget on the backs of the elderly. Lastly, I'm not sure what "ObamaCare" has to do with SS, and if you hate Obama because of ObamaCare, then remember republican Bob Dole and some other republican are the ones who originally constructed it which makes Obama the least to blame for its creation.
@sholmesful SS & MediCare are similar, in that both have huge unfunded liabilities ( bankrupt if taxes & benefits remain as is),serve the elderly, are funded over entire working lives of folks. ObamaCare has to do with PROMISING to gut MediCare, by $500 Bill. Rationalizing ObamaCare by pointing out left wing Republicans is silly. This is NOT balancing the budget on backs of elderly. The US Govt does NOT have $19 Trill in cash to fund them, taxing that amount is absurd.
Walt! We haven't discuss what to cut. When we get everything on the table, then we can discuss how much we have in cash, but we need to establish the ground rules first. Second, how is Bob Dole Left wing? Not only did Bob Dole serve his country during the second war, he was also called a "great republican leader" by George H. Bush. If Bob D is left is Mitt R. extreme right? If you think Mitt R is extreme right then I have some Ronmey care to sell you.
@sholmesful Romney is a moderate at best, as were both Bush`s, & Dole. Although to me, they are the left wing of the Rep Party. Certainly, the Left Wing of the Rep party is the Conservative wing of the Dem party. We are not ever going to be able to cut $90 Trillion for SS and MediCare, nor raise the taxes that much. However, it is impossible to pay off the elderly, as planned. It will never happen, it`s impossible. The really isnt anything to discuss.
Are you saying the entire Bush family (including Jed Bush) are left wing? Also, is the Tea Party about to nominate a moderate (who's only has a hair difference from Obama) to the white house. Boy! First, the Tea Party elect republicans into the house. After which the country has a down grade from AAA to AA. Then, the Tea Party elects Romney, who's not extreme right wing, and he changes his postions more times then I change the old in my car. Can the Tea Party ever get a break?
@sholmesful Notice as I challenge your points you change subjects? Bush expanded MediCare to include prescription drugs. Thats Lib. No child left behind is expansion of Fed Power in education, which is a State, Local issue. Thats Lib. Tea Party had nothing to do with the downgrade. Debt ceiling is irrelevant to paying debts. Pay debts first, then prioritize. Debt ceiling was raised, rating was NOT restored. Spending causing deficits downgraded US, Greece, Italy, etc.
Sorry! While writing, I was watching how people are saying that Ronmey may be the one. Back to the issue. Dole was called a "great Republican leader" by George H. Bush. Is George H. Bush Lift Wing? Also, I know you think SS, Medicare, and No-Child-left behind caused the debt problems, but that's not true. The debt problem became serious when we got into two wars without paying for it, oil companies took money out in the form of G-subsides, and wallstreet crashed the economy.
@sholmesful The cost of the 2 Wars in year 2010 was $130 billion, The deficit was $1300 billion ( $1.3 Trillion). Thats just 10% of deficit. Same thing during earlier years. Subsidies to oil companies estimated at $4 billion a year, thats nothing to do with anything, and its a Trillion dollar industry! Clinton in 1998 bombed Iraq, went on TV telling US public they had WMD, nuclear, chemical, biological. 9-11 crash economy, caused Fed Reserve to inflate currency. M-2 up 87% 10 yrs.
Nice try! I know you would like to like to put the blame on poor people and entitlement spending, but we had both for a long time and we never had a crash like we did in 2008. FBI did some investigating, and they concluded that the crash of 2008 had to do faud investments of Wallstreet. Procecuting faud investors, getting bail out money back, and seizing investors funds should deal with a lot of the debt mess were in if some politicans have the guts.
@sholmesful Housing prices went way, way up. Mortgages are necessary, to fund these high prices. When housing prices fell the value of mortgages also fell. They are bank assets. This entire process impossible without a large increase in the credit to pay for higher priced mortgages. Federal Reserve is where to cash to finance bubble came from. Without a lot of new mortgage money, there would be nothing to finance the bubble with. No bubble, no crash, no banking crisis.
@luvcheney1 It sounds like you are for bank regulation. Or am I missing your point? Would you like to see members of the Fed arrested, money seized, and the bailout money returned?
@sholmesful I am for eliminating the Federal Reserve. I am for eliminating the monopoly the Federal Govt has over money itself. I am for eliminating FDIC insurance, which guarantees safety of savings. This policy means NOBODY worries about bank solvency. Bankers can take risks, and customers dont care, dont read ratings as to safety. Risky banks make more money, offer better terms than safe banks can. So, safe banks are at a disadvantage, and risky banks have advantage. PERVERSE!
@luvcheney1 How do you feel about bankers gambling with other people's money? From what I hear, the way it works is that the bankers gamble with other people's money then just before the economy crashes again (which looks like it will happen) they pass those same toxix assets to someone else to live it up? Also, you never answered my question. If you are constantly against government entitlement programs and bailouts, how do feel about getting the government bailout money back?
@sholmesful "Gambling" with other people`s money implies you know what gambling actually is. Suppose I have money. YOU tell me just ONE investment that is NOT gambling. You must realize bankers loan out money, that a small fraction of deposits is actually in the bank. The rest is a risk. Do you want bankers to keep 100% in the bank? Not loan any out? So, no car loans, mortgages, business loans, credit cards? Bankers charge YOU, for storage of cash? Lets be factual.
@luvcheney1 What I mean, using the word gambling, is taking chances selling known toxic mortgages while hoping that the lobbied government doesn't prosecute. There are a lot of cases that were thrown out that the FBI warned about in 2004. Putting this aside, you still didn't answer my question. Do you want the government bailout money put back?
@sholmesful Part 2 post) The passing of assets is known as "securitization:, and was started by the Govt sponsored enterprises themselves, reselling mortgages. So, 1st of all, lets not blame bankers for following Govts lead. Bailouts were TARP bill, and most of that money has long been repaid. Govt sponsored enterprises, Fannie, Freddie (mortgages) have not repaid, nor AIG (insurance on mortgage securities). If you delete Govts own firms, just AIG, which is all, and Govt OWNS AIG
You're not constant. You quoted exact prices on every entitlement program to make the case to kill those programs, yet you defend Wall-Street's right to keep their government bailout. You don't like government programs, yet you don't mine free unearned money going to Wall-street which is hypocritical. If you were a true conservative you would argue that Wall-street should give all the money back with interest since the FBI clearly state on some websites that they cause the 08 crash.
@sholmesful The fucking word is "consistent". Look, US Congress CREATED Fannie, Freddie and CONGRESS is responsible for this mess. They dont HAVE the money. These institutions shouldnt EXIST, or EVER have existed. AIG is paying back, and everyone else HAS paid back, AT INTEREST. Govt holds equity interest now of AIG. Govt OWNS them. Revuew the VOTE on TARP, by Political Party. Note, house reps AGAINST, Dems FOR. Senate reps had higher % against than Dems. Dems liked bailout MORE.
Yet, very few have been held accountable for the crash of 2008. People haven't seen a lot of arrests, and the same people you are defending still give each other bonuses from government bail out money that you want them to keep. Do you truly believe that the FBI was wrong about Wall-Street being the main reason why the crash happen in 2008? Also, do you think that Wall-Street operates under the same laws of poor people? Lastly, thanks for the spelling correction.
@sholmesful Post 2. So, bottom line is you damn banks for gambling, but are totally unable to name ONE, SAFE investment. If that is the case, you really ought not to be damning anyone. BTW, I have substantial capital. Having capital makes ME think about risk, and I will readily admit, there is NO safe investment. Therefore, I see every fucking thing I can invest in as being gambling. Why? Because it IS. My net worth varies by as much as $8,000/day. And, I am in what I THINK is SAFE.
@luvcheney1 I didn't say I wanted to "damn" anybody, and I'm not against capitalism. However, when I see you defend the right for Wall-Street to keep Government money that they did not earn, I feel its my duty to call you a non-conservative. Can't you see that if you allow Wall-Street to keep one penny of government money by processing it as normal business, that it would lead to vulture capitalism resulting in the lobbying of Congress that supresses the voters of the majority?
@sholmesful Note the following. I am AGAINST the TARP bill. Republicans in Congress as a gruop did NOT support TARP bill nearly as much as Dems did. I am just stating a fact, that most of TARP has been repaid by the evil banks already. Fannie and Freddie are creations of the govt, and should never have BEEN created, as Govt has NO business in helping anyone buy a home. They are so broke it is not possible even for them to STOP asking for money. AIG is too. I WANT them bankrupt.
@sholmesful Post 2) I am NOT defending bailouts, never did! It is not free market. You seem to have been unaware that nearly all TARP was already repaid. You want something that mostly already happened. Fannie, Freddie are still bleeding, but govt made them, and the whole world is full of their loans, and they are worthless. Govt promised to pay them, thats WRONG, but govt created these entities. AIG IS paying back, hasnt finished.
First you say that most of the government money that was given in bailouts was return. Then, you say all government money was giving back. Can you make up your mind? Now, I must apologize, I didn't respond to your early question on gambling. You wanted to know if I'm against loans, and the answer is no. Here's an idea I heard from someone else, have investors put their own money into the gambling pot on Wall-Street instead of Tax payer dollars that way they lose with everyone else.
@sholmesful Reviewing my last to posts, regarding TARP, and bailouts ( same thing), one time I said "nearly all", and the other "most of". Those 2 posts are true. I also noted to you exactly WHO hasnt paid back, 2 govt created co`s explicity backed by Fed Govt anyway, and AIG, who has paid back SOME. "Proprietory investing" is when a bank risks its OWN funds, and the Govt has slowed the practice, they dont LIKE IT. Banls lost money cause homes fell in value, thats IT.
luvcheney1 Are you a Ron Paul supporter? Also, there is a big difference between bankers and investors. Investors don't lose a thing when they gamble with the stakeholders and tax payers money. Investors could by shares into a company, but if it goes bad they sell it quickly to avoid paying anything. Are you defending Investors now? What's wrong with making Investory put their skin into the game? Lasty, "Proprietory" is spelled "Proprietary".
@sholmesful Its not "stakeholders", its "stockholders". Investors are stockholders, bondholders. It is THEIR capital. TARP was wrong. Dems supported it far more than Reps did, because it is NOT free market. BTW, unemployment compensation over the original, taxed for time period, is a bailout. Food stamps, welfare. I oppose ALL bailouts. I dont think you really KNOW what opposing bank bailouts means. Total economic collapse. I accept it, as we only postponed that. Its still coming
You’re right about the written difference between stakeholders and stockholders, but in reality you’re wrong because Investors used Tax payer money. Considering the damage they've done, taking tax payer money, leads me to believe that they still owe the US. Also, you favor cuts in food stamps and welfare, but do you favor government subsidy cuts in Oil, Nuclear, and Viagra? Lastly, you never responded to my question about forcing Investors to put their skin in the game.
@sholmesful Derivatives failed & broke the banks, were based on mortgages. The bailouts were after the fact. If you think mortgages are gambling, OK fine, But still, this was before bailouts. Bailouts werent invested, or "gambled", but filled holes already existing. And free market folks do NOT support bailouts. US Dept of Energy says per megawatt hr of energy, solar and wind get $23, and oil, nat gas get 24 cents. Obama says oil subsidy $5 bill, spending $3800 billion. Its nothing.
The FBI said that the main reason why the crash happened was due to deals on Wall-Street, and they wrote a letter in 2004 on this issue so why go back to it? Also, you still haven't respond to my question about making investors put their skin in the game. Now, why are you mentioning wind & solar prices? I mentioned government giveaways like Viagra to see how big your hatred for all government giveaways is. For example, would you like to see the end of the DEA like Ron Paul?
@sholmesful There have been Panics and Crashes throughout history, Booms and Busts. However you phrase them. Big crashes have something in common. Monetary expansion precedes the crashes. ALWAYS. Monetary policy is one of the LEAST discussed, or understood topics. For example, while the nation debated $800 billion in bailouts, the Federal Reserve poured $7 TRILLION into the system. Bloomberg, Fox sued for the info, under Freedom of Info Act. This is not discussed, by media.
@luvcheney1 When those Booms and bust happen who's left to pay the bill? Also, who avoids being liable? The tax payers pay the bill will when the economy suddenly crashes. The investors avoid the cost by selling their toxic assets. Why not force investors to put their skin in the game? Why not fight for the end of insider trading?
@sholmesful You miss the big picture here, because monetary policy isnt reported much, nor understood. The Federal Reserve, created by govt CAUSES the booms and busts, not investors, not banks, not taxpayers. The big banks, and Lehman, AIG, etc all had losses because of the crash. They didnt profit from it. Those who bought "toxic assets" were investors. Insider trading is NOT the topic. How about 30 years of FALLING interest rates, that wouldnt cause home buying? Wise up!
@luvcheney1 By accepting that the fall of 2008 was mostly due to home owners buying more than they could afford means that you're telling me that the FBI was wrong. Do you believe the FBI to be an agency of ignorant people. Lastly investor(s) don't lose anything because they don't risk their money. Investors risk our money. Again, what's wrong with making them risk their money?
@sholmesful Please REFER me to the URL, cut and paste it, send a Private Message, about the FBI report. The FBI is NOT an agency entrusted with economic analysis, buddy, but, I`ll look at what you got. When you put money in a bank, you KNOW it is going to be invested. Dont you? Really? If you DONT want it invested, dont invest it. Dig a fucking hole somewhere, and HIDE it, put in your sock drawer, in a box of cereal. If you give it away, to be invested, thats YOUR fucking problem.
@luvcheney1 Just because COPS have a reality TV show explaining how they hunt down crooks doesn't mean the FBI isn't real due to a lack of a FBI reality TV show. The FBI has a big white collar crime unit dedicated to stopping fraud. The youtube format won't allow me to paste links. Give me your email, and I'll send the direct link.
Pay close attention to how investors use CDS to create a riskless environment for themselves.
@sholmesful I already told you stupid, send a personal message, on You tube. You CAN send URLS. You know what you tube is? Youre on it? a CDS is an insurance policy, and folks wanted to insure "bags of mortgages". You know, derivatives? The big, bad derivatives were just securitized mortgages, invented by govt sponsored enterprise, Ginnie Mae.The CDS issue comes right back around to the original fucking issue in the first place. Housing bubble. Bubble caused by Fed credit.
@sholmesful FBI looks for crimes, they dont analyze fucking economic collapses. There may be, have been, incidences of fraudulent, criminal activities, but there always are. Nobody sane maintains THAT collapsed the economy. I know commies and Pinkos say bankers are criminals, but note how bankers arent being jailed, they did nothing wrong. Now, some mortgage originators forged papers, but criminal activity NEVER created the mortgage credit, that blew up the housing bubble.
@luvcheney1 Please read the website link I gave you! Just because you haven't heard of anyone going to jail doesn't mean that a crime hasn't happen. Also, it's easy for any to say no crime has taken place so long as lobbyist exists. So, let’s agree to vote on a measure to fire member(s) of government who hold stock(s) in any organization that would create a conflict of interest.
@luvcheney1 In you last paragraph, you created an incomplete sentence. "However you phrase them" is and incomplete sentence when you write it then end it with a period.
UMMMMM. EXCUSE ME?! YOU ARE SUM KND OF PIGENEONS FORESKIN OR SUMIN OUT HERE. JEEZ CRIST PPLS ARE DUMBS NOW. FUCK THAT AND WHY YOU THINK JUS CAUSE SPANISH HE CANT PAINT TITS?!
I don't care how "socialist" income tax may be. Who the fuck is going to pay for our roads and our infrastructure if nobody pays taxes? Do you think some nice rich man is going to build this country for us? Get a clue.
@Numbuh7 Do it like the SUCCESSFUL european nations do, private businesses. Guess what, before we had government take over some private businesses(like education), it cost less than a hundredth of what it costs now to go to college. Airport security would answer to public outcry, not government demand(we would have lost unnecessary strip searches in no time if they answered to business. The companies that did better on that aspect would thrive better). Government isn't a necessity in all fields.
@Numbuh7 Surely you know but have let the tax collected on every gallon of gas,not to mention tax on fuel,permits ect. on commercial vehicles slip your mind? Not one penny of income tax goes on infrastructure.Every last dime goes straight to the Federal Reserve to cover interest on the money we gave them (bail outs) and then borrowed...Just saying.
@Numbuh7 Income Tax goes to pay off the interest of our debt to the federal reserve. Roads and infastructure are paid for with state and city tax which the people are allowed to vote on just what that tax may be. Please educate yourself more on the Fed and why we are paying them for the paper money when the treasury can print off paper money for free so no Federal Income tax would be needed. You do know that the Federal Reserve bank is not ran by the government don't you? Who needs to get clue?
@Numbuh7 Shh Quite buddy, don't say that too loudly, the Ron Paul cultists might hear you, and they are an aggressive bunch! Yes they are aggressive because apparently their messiah is Perfect in every way shape and form! LOL!
@deeppurple28 No one believes that. I am voting for Ron Paul because I know how to prioritize, and priority one is ending the militarism..
Thousands of children die whom you will never see, secretive drone strikes in Sovereignty peace time countries that take children with them as collateral damage.
These people are real, I am voting Ron Paul to give them a chance at life, don't presume I'm voting for Ron Paul because I personally believe he is perfect or you come across as an arrogant IDIOT.
@wowmage666 Don't worry, thousands more will die from lack of health care! Since wRong Paul wants to privatize everything, Thousands of children will die from lack of health care! Its funny how wRong Paul blames the government for high medical costs, yet I wonder who will he blame when people with pre existing conditions are denied health care coverage!! Ron Paul you say? I SAY NOPE! He can't be President anyway..!
@PitBullsBiteHard no loop holes, everyone would be equal. plus if no one could pay fines but instead had to do community service a lot of small stuff could get done for free.
@Numbuh7 Um, yeah, like has been done successfully in many other countries. Our Infrastructure hasn't been that widely regulated or 'upkept' in decades. A private business would go out of business if that were the case(even get sued), but no, if the government is the one 'slacking' it just gets brushed off. Government run water facilities are the best example of this, with many of them running on 70 year old tech. I think even TYT had a story about this the other day.
@Numbuh7 A far higher percent of GDP was being invested in the building of roads privately, in the early 1800`s, as compared with 1950`s. Govt`s monopoly on roads has lead to severe road shortages, known as traffic jams, freeway congestion. Led to dependence on automobiles. Crumbling infrastructures, as gas taxes wasted on other things. Road building, upkeep is to come from license fees, and gas taxes. Those who use, pay. Semi`s pay more, they burn more fuel.
@Numbuh7 you pay taxes on commerce and various other things like a flat tax. Read a history book. Educate yourself as not to sound like a moron. Here in Texas, we pay for our roads with money from the gas tax that you pay every time you fill your tank as well as tolls. Looks like you need to get a clue.
@MegaBadhorsie Exactly, in their context it doesn't mean "tax this guy, give to this guy". It doesn't fit with pretty much everything else they'd said in the Constitution. It's probably an 'era vocabulary' deal that we're misinterpreting(like Fill and Refill being the same word was an issue with Martin Luther's translations in his era).
if your country is on a gold standard and another country wants to convert their currency into yours, or trade with you, they can't right? Cuz they'd be giving you paper in exchange for gold...they'd have to use their gold reserves? I don't get it...
Also, if all the countries gave America their gold reserves, the US still wouldn't have enough gold to back up their currency at an equilibrium level...
Every penny of the income tax now goes directly to the Federal reserve ! If you are referring to the 19th amendment to the constitution giving the government the right to tax our wages you are mistaken.It #1 was never ratified and #2 Found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.The court has ruled taxing wages unconstitutional on multiple occasions. So we give all taxes collected to the fed so they can loan our money back to us at interest! Ron Paul is "right on" Cenk. Read up!!!!
@sparrow053 I want to see TYT ADDRESS their lack of expertise in the Economic area. It really shows when they have debates with Peter Schiff and they say "that's not true! That never happenned" when Peter Schiff talked about Income tax and our history on the depression. After Schiff mentioned the income tax didn't exist before 1913, Cenk went "Pffft, of course I know that", where as seconds before, he implied it was a 'constitutionally sanctioned' organization...
at least hes focusing on problems here at home (even though he's kinda ass backwards on some important issues) but these things can be worked with....Im still voting for Ron paul b/c at least he isnt signing our rights away on paper like Obama who doesnt even know what the word "Unconstitutional" even means...i bet he'd wipe his ass with it if it were given to him to read
Arguing against paper money? It's not about arguing against paper money, it's about having a gold standard instead of a currency strictly controlled by how many bills the federal reserve wants to print to increase inflation.
how did the gold standard workout for you during the great depression?
during WW1 and WW2?
why was it scrapped over and over? how come the countries that got off the gold standard the quickest, like Japan, and implemented Keynesian monetary policy got out of the great depression the fastest?
@warwize The problem today is the inflation and the Keynesianism! That we put money on bailouts, parachutes and different rescuing packages. With a gold standard inflation wouldn't be a problem unless chickens started laying golden eggs. Keynesianism is not the answer to this crisis. It's interesting how the price on oil has been consistant with the value of gold, whereas it's increased by almost 300% compared to the dollar. Much of the gas prices are due to inflation.
guess how much the value of gold would change if America went on the gold standard.
you can't simply peg your currency to some arbitrary value of gold, it has to reach an equilibrium. How much would that be? I don't think you understand the consequences.
If gold was great against inflation why did the inflation adjusted price of gold fall from almost $1850 in 1980 to $352 in 2001? Over that time period 21 years, it lost over 80% of its value.
@warwize Some inflation over a period of time is needed in order to keep growth. The gold standard's inflation is more consistent than the dollar's and billprinting will become impossible.
@ohedd Review the "Long Depression", from 1873- 1891, there were falling prices, and growth near 6%. Inflation is NOT necessary for growth, we just assume so since we always have had it, lately.
@warwize Actually, the gold standard was repealed temporarily during the Depression. The Federal Reserve, thriving and young, helped attribute to a massive level of 'disconnect' that helped lead to the crash.
repealed in WW1, and during WW2, if you were on gold standard during WW2 America's effort would've been futile
The depression is more complicated than the fed reserves actions, herd mentality and the stock crash are more relevant. There were crashes and bubbles long before central banks. The countries that implemented a stimulus and went off the gold standard the fastest also were out of the depression the quickest...contractionary policy during a recession is absurd
@MontajBlaze There was 46% inflation of money supply, 1921-1929, fueling the Bubble of the stock market. THEN there was the depression, initiated to stop the bubble. 1995- 2005 we had 83% growth of money supply, fueling 2 bubbles, the DotCom, and housing. Then, we had the crash.
@terrysffr87 do you not relise that if we got rid of paper money and went to gold there would not be enof gold to be used think about how much a gold ring costs now how many of those could you buy right now those 100 rings or so is all the money you have you cant break it up to smaller bills or change so if you buy somthing you will have to pay a full ring.
there is not enof gold in the world to be used as a currency anymore
nice circus mysic playing in the backround, very mature way to let the man speak. Dr. Ron Paul is the only one running that knows this country needs a full 180 degree trun around. each other person in the running wants to do the same old thing as we see it isnt working. no more paper money "o this rock for that rock" are you even aware that EVERY SINGLE CULTURE USING "FIAT" PAPER CURRENCY HAS HAD THER CURRENCY AND ECONOMY COLLAPSE?? SINCE THE BEGINING OF ROME WITH THE FIRST TYPE, THEY HAVE ALL
@terrysffr87 and all the ones with out paper money are doing great? no they did not no country will last for all time no matter what things rise and fall things will eventuly change for one reason or another
We probably are doing subconscious trades all the time with friends and family. I know I don't ask for money when I help a friend move house. But, I do expect help when I need it.
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Paul wants more monetary competition. Something the 2011 Nobel Prize Laurette seems to think would be a good idea.
@Rustyrunaway really, rocks? are you fucking stupid? You are trying to tell me he was serious about rocks? Get real. Also Gold is just like any other currency so how does it make it better than paper? It doesn't we assign a value to gold and it has value. We could do the same with copper, silver, iron, platinum, ect. If/when the entire world economy goes to hell gold wont be worth that much ether. We assign it the value it has. That whole "its never been zero" crap is the same for tons of metals
sorry Cenk but I'm with Paul with this one. Because remember when he says constitution in these videos, he's talking about FEDERAL LEVEL.
if state wants to have social security then YES they can have it and Paul administration will do NOTHING to stop it because it's in x state's constitution. which is in their power to do so.
:x I don't even have to research this kind of things if you listen with open-mind you get it.
I honestly can't say I care when a politician talks about the constitution. I know damn well they don't actually care. They just want us to think they do so we'll vote for them and give them more money and power.
the constitution doesn't say the "the government shall provide for the general welfare". it says we the people establish this constitution to "provide for the common defense" and to "PROMOTE the general welfare". *promote* and *provide* do not mean the same thing. it doesn't say your government is supposed to give you insurance or loans. the constitution is fairly explicit about the powers of the executive and legislative branches. at the same time, i understand the fear of being dogmatic.
I don't think Cenk get's the point. Ron Paul believes that best government is the government that governs locally. He believes the Federal government was never supposed to be this big and that's why he believes that they don't have the authority to become a bloated bureaucracy as we all know they've become. Ron Paul has a good a point... Centralized governments do become apathetic to it's general population and laws that suite one region may not suite the other.
I'm a foreigner and yes, I did graduate our equivalent of your HS.
I did not mean to demean your constitution (or maybe I did?), but frankly, it's old. That Ron Paul seems to focus on what's "constitutional" so damn much seems goofy to me. Things change, we don't live in the late 18th century anymore.
I don't disapprove of him entirely tho, he's the only guy in the GOP race with real principles, and that's a good thing, even if I don't agree with all of them.
@lAmWatchingYou You clearly don't understand the US Constitution - it's a LIVING DOCUMENT,.. like the Magna Carta - or do you think Habeas Corpus is and old concept.
PRINCIPLES OF LIBERTY ARE NEVER OLD, please reconsider.
@D10SdelFutbol - I think you must have missed what I was responding to... Someone said the constitution was somehow a perfect document. I was pointing out that it isn't - it supports slavery. And if you try and say that, since it was written 240 odd years ago, that it somehow is OK for it to be wrong in that regard - then why not throw out the whole thing on the same basis? Clearly, it doesn't work like that. It can be relevant, and important, and flawed, at the same time.
@Cyber0Bill It isn't a perfect document but it is the most amazing document ever designed by human intelligence in the protection of individual Liberty.
@D10SdelFutbol - Absurd. I can take the Constitution, remove the bits about slavery, add some extra provisions like the Bill of Rights that ensure that all people are equal in the eyes of the government regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, and ethnicity, and it would -without any doubt- be a document that is better than the Constitution at protecting the liberty of individuals.
THEY ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
WHAT OTHER REASON DO U WANT?!!!!
ivanbangin 2 days ago
ITT: Ron Paul fanboys getting butthurt over legitimate critizism.
fortunne 4 days ago 7
@fortunne Shh, not too loud, the RonBots might hear you then begin insulting you! Its what they generally do when you post a statement that disagrees with Paul's views!
deeppurple28 13 hours ago
You know what it also says Cenk? It says all powers not expressly given to the Federal Government are given to the states, HENCE RON PAUL IS RIGHT YOU RETARD!
LifeOfTheAfterParty 5 days ago
@LifeOfTheAfterParty He's referencing an explicit power of the federal government, to promote the general welfare. Hence, you're wrong.
LiberalBohemian 13 hours ago in playlist Liked videos
I disagree with you cenk, but I also realise that you have a constitution right to free speech. I dotn get the hate
anarcy7777u 5 days ago
Cenk sucks, unfortunately there will be a lot of Ron Paul 30-50 years from now when we're fucked.
yuothineyesasian 6 days ago
cenk you know ron paul is the best option we have you piece of camel shit. go suck al gores balls you sell out
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xSecretAgentMan 1 week ago in playlist Politics
Cenk is so full of shit.
Cogitatio023 2 weeks ago
Ron Paul speaks the TRUTH ,That's all i need.
TheGoat1954 2 weeks ago
Ron Paul says in one of his interviews he has no illusions about how difficult it will be to phase out all of the programs and it wouldn't happen all at once. You make an argument that the federal government should be able to regulate commerce, but we are supposed to have a free (of government interference) market. I think you are also forgetting states' rights. States are supposed to handle the laws not specified in the national constituation.
kleenextx 3 weeks ago
@kleenextx >You make an argument that the federal government should be able to regulate commerce
The 10th amendment says EXACTLY that the government has the power to regulate interstate commerce. Or don't you believe in following the Constitution?
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fasty004 1 month ago
Ron Paul is correct on all points he mentioned. In fact, The Constitution in fact states that people can be taxed, but only if a census was performed the previous year. It was changed to get money quickly for ww2 and was only supposed to be TEMPORARY. (Just like when social security numbers were first issued the govt said they would never be used to track ppl!!!) What is the purpose of the dept of ed? Everything it does can be done at state lvls. I am running out of room, so do ur own homework!
blkhole71 1 month ago
He's not saying that the Consitution says the government should not provide any programs or regulations. He's saying that the FEDERAL government should not be doing this. The reason for this is not a cop out, it is simply a realist view based on our human nature. When we give these snakes in Washington DC who have no regard for the money we pay them in taxes, they spend it frivolously. At least if we leave it to the states, the programs are more accountable to local voters and constituents.
cohavideos 1 month ago
@cohavideos I agree and disagree with you in Michigan they cut public education, ended all mental hospitals so now these ppl are on the streets or in prision, increased prision spending, in the process of cutting the arts, etc. I say they are all flawed & it won't make a bit of difference,
missyouhoo 4 weeks ago
lol, your idea on "paper money" is SO misinformed. xD
He wants gold and silver to back up the currency, not thin air.
givemearandomnamenow 1 month ago
uhm. turks, you do realize that when he says "no paper money" it means "no printing MORE when you run out" WHICH IS INFLATION! are you pro inflation turks? or are you just that stupid, and dont know what Paper Money means?
armydude162 1 month ago
@armydude162 If you don't do that you get deflation which is far far worse for an economy than controlled inflation.
inademv 1 month ago
It says nothing about setting up an air force in the Constitution. The USAF is unconstitutional. Herp derp.
Spherical3 1 month ago
@Spherical3 yeahh you dont really understand what you are saying
aSASa45454 1 month ago
I'm still waiting for the Paul-like candidate who will support science. We definitely should reduce entitlements and defense spending.
MinisterAilingTongue 1 month ago
@MinisterAilingTongue I support science. I also support the use of feminine hygene products, and toilet paper, when necessary. I dont support Govt funding for toilet paper, and feminine hygene products.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Gold has become a consumable commodity. Because of that the commodity markets will be setting the price of gold, one way or another. Meaning gold is no longer a stabilizing factor. The value of the dollars will be set by commodity exchange speculators. Unless Paul can support the Federal government interfering with private business dealings.Paul is 1 of those libertarians who think those those more powerful than they will treat them fairly. Fools
waswestkan 1 month ago
@waswestkan Dollar value is already set by speculators. Gold too. What is your point?
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@waswestkan Gold is really not much of a consumable commodity at all. Most all of the gold ever mined is still hoarded. That makes it different from nearly every other commodity. Speculators ( just a nasty name for investors, or "people") also set the value of the dollar. There is no differene that way. The difference though is major. The dollar isnt anything. Gold happens to be gold, which happens to actually be something. Something is better than a wet dream.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Yes I agree 100% with Cenk, it's all nuts. I'd still vote for him over Obama though, because at least the status quo would change.
MyTemporaryAccount88 1 month ago
Hey Mr. Cenk Uygur... The Constitution does NOT say PROVIDE for the General Welfare. It is clearly written: PROMOTE the General Welfare. You might consider reading the damn thing before you spew falsehoods like that.
bigken61 1 month ago 2
@bigken61 More importantly, it says general welfare of the Unite States, not people. Preceding the statement, it states "defence", so the meaning is of policies of the nation, not individuals. In Constitution, there are numerous reference to people, States, and United States, each meaning a different thing, obviously.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
"All the perplexities, confusion and distresses in America arise not from defects in the constitution or confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation." - John Adams
bigken61 1 month ago
I think the biggest issue with TYT's attacks on Paul is they make it sound like no other country has ever done without most of these things. The fact is, a lot of our 'fellow' countries do without a 'multi-headed beast' of government departments. And Paul(in full context), supports holding onto Social Security, even though it's unconstitutional, because it's integrated so much into our society. He would like to get us off the 'drip' over a period of time,introducing alternatives.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
THE FED IS MAKING A FOOL OUT OF ALL OF YOU IDIOTS.
TUBOMAGNETICO 1 month ago
@TUBOMAGNETICO Has been doing it for about 100 years now.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
let's put shitty music to Ron Paul speaking the truth so we can bring him down to our stupid level.
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poorandimmature 1 month ago
So what this video is implying is the "It's ok that the united states government does whatever the fuck it wants under the condition that it's either not covered by the constitution or it says it can". The constitution is (in essence) a list of things the people have given them permission to regulate. Saying what this man is saying is like when a parent yells at their child for shoving all his toys under the bed instead of cleaning his room and he says "But you didn't tell me I couldn't do that"
TeamMagique 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 3
@TeamMagique So in addition to the above statement, I would like to point out there are TONS of alternatives to medicare, Medicaid, social security, income tax, and etc.. This video only states what he is opposed to with little to no understanding of what the alternatives are. The caveman reference was one of them. It's like people have no idea what a tariff is. The government should be SMALL. Giving them limitless power is in no way good. Every law congress passes makes us less free.
TeamMagique 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@TeamMagique Why can you and I see it so clearly but some of these people can't?.... are they mentally challenged?
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@TeamMagique The Constitution list the powers of the Federal Govt.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Yes, and that should be ALL the powers they have and nothing more. If the founding fathers saw this shit, they would roll in their graves. They did not fight to make us free only so we could turn on ourselves with crap like the patriot act and the indefinite detention bill. I am surprised that no lawyers constantly file class action lawsuits on a daily basis to get rid of the evil shit.
TeamMagique 1 month ago
@TeamMagique Hard to file a lawsuit against "evil shit".
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 You know what I meant, troll.
TeamMagique 1 month ago
Wow, this guy in not very intelligent. Good for him for making this channel though. It's unfortunate he does less thinking than feeling. Very obnoxious character too.
LeonTheMortgageAgent 1 month ago
This guy needs to get a clue!!!! The Constitution does not say what the government can do it says what they CAN'T do!!!! Also the Constitution does NOT say what the people rights are, the Bill of Rights does. When will people start getting that?
TheGreatConspiracy 1 month ago
@payasoinfeliz Not exactly! I'm trying to assure people that Ron Paul will probably get "some" of his policies pass as president. Remember, George W. Bush wanted to put Social Security on the Wall-Street stock exchange market, but he fail to accomplish that even though he got everything else like two wars, tax-cuts, and a second term.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Are you against privatization of Social Security? At this point, already roped into a bad situation, phasing in privatization makes sense to me.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 I don't know enough about the privatization of Social Security to have a good answer. If a senior citzen wants to us his/her SS on the stock market then that is his or her right. However, some senior citzens aren't qualified to make that decision, and I don't think the people or families who care for senior citzen(s) should be gambling with SS money or making risky investments. SS was created in the 1930's to be a program for seniors, and it shouldn't be altered.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful SS is a shameful program because it is taking the part of "saving" up for retirement. The main issue is that is does NOT save up ANY capital at all. All capital taken under this pretense is spent on current retirees, and what goes into the "Trust Fund" is immediately loaned to the Treasury, and spent as well. Many folks complain about inequality of wealth in US. Too bad our retirement savings arent WEALTH. SS Trustees state $19 Trillion short of assets to fund program.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 According to others in the media, SS has enough funds to last seniors for many years. What I don't undertand is why you describe SS as a bank. A bank has money or capital, but SS isn't design to work that way. Social Security was created in the 1930's to show the world that we take care of our seniors by keeping our promises.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful According to the US Govt`s OWN 2009 "Social Security and Medicare Trustees Report", they show the combined unfunded liability of these two programs has reached nearly $107 trillion in today's dollars! That is about seven times the size of the U.S. economy and 10 times the size of the outstanding national debt."
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 So what's the alternative, tell the elderly that they are not entititled to what they were promised because somebody couldn't get the math right back in the 1930's. Cutting spending in "some" areas is fine, but if you support short-changing the elderly out of what they were promised then I not on board with that. The scary image I have in my mind is the commercial of an old woman in a wheel chair being thrown off a cliff. The commercial was in reference to med-care.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful I guess you are right, telling the truth on the matter is unfair. Lets just pretend that the math works out just fine, stick our heads up our asses, and forget about it. Is THAT your plan? How about honesty? Its not right when media states all is well, when it is NOT. Obama promised to cut $500 billion out of MediCare already. That is one of the major reasons the CBO could score ObamaCare as being "balanced". Fucking the elderly is already planned, by Obama.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Hey, I'm all for the truth! I just don't like the idea making things look like its all the elderly's faulth, which will convince others that it's okay to balance the buget on the backs of the elderly. Lastly, I'm not sure what "ObamaCare" has to do with SS, and if you hate Obama because of ObamaCare, then remember republican Bob Dole and some other republican are the ones who originally constructed it which makes Obama the least to blame for its creation.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful SS & MediCare are similar, in that both have huge unfunded liabilities ( bankrupt if taxes & benefits remain as is),serve the elderly, are funded over entire working lives of folks. ObamaCare has to do with PROMISING to gut MediCare, by $500 Bill. Rationalizing ObamaCare by pointing out left wing Republicans is silly. This is NOT balancing the budget on backs of elderly. The US Govt does NOT have $19 Trill in cash to fund them, taxing that amount is absurd.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Walt! We haven't discuss what to cut. When we get everything on the table, then we can discuss how much we have in cash, but we need to establish the ground rules first. Second, how is Bob Dole Left wing? Not only did Bob Dole serve his country during the second war, he was also called a "great republican leader" by George H. Bush. If Bob D is left is Mitt R. extreme right? If you think Mitt R is extreme right then I have some Ronmey care to sell you.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Romney is a moderate at best, as were both Bush`s, & Dole. Although to me, they are the left wing of the Rep Party. Certainly, the Left Wing of the Rep party is the Conservative wing of the Dem party. We are not ever going to be able to cut $90 Trillion for SS and MediCare, nor raise the taxes that much. However, it is impossible to pay off the elderly, as planned. It will never happen, it`s impossible. The really isnt anything to discuss.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Are you saying the entire Bush family (including Jed Bush) are left wing? Also, is the Tea Party about to nominate a moderate (who's only has a hair difference from Obama) to the white house. Boy! First, the Tea Party elect republicans into the house. After which the country has a down grade from AAA to AA. Then, the Tea Party elects Romney, who's not extreme right wing, and he changes his postions more times then I change the old in my car. Can the Tea Party ever get a break?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Notice as I challenge your points you change subjects? Bush expanded MediCare to include prescription drugs. Thats Lib. No child left behind is expansion of Fed Power in education, which is a State, Local issue. Thats Lib. Tea Party had nothing to do with the downgrade. Debt ceiling is irrelevant to paying debts. Pay debts first, then prioritize. Debt ceiling was raised, rating was NOT restored. Spending causing deficits downgraded US, Greece, Italy, etc.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Sorry! While writing, I was watching how people are saying that Ronmey may be the one. Back to the issue. Dole was called a "great Republican leader" by George H. Bush. Is George H. Bush Lift Wing? Also, I know you think SS, Medicare, and No-Child-left behind caused the debt problems, but that's not true. The debt problem became serious when we got into two wars without paying for it, oil companies took money out in the form of G-subsides, and wallstreet crashed the economy.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful The cost of the 2 Wars in year 2010 was $130 billion, The deficit was $1300 billion ( $1.3 Trillion). Thats just 10% of deficit. Same thing during earlier years. Subsidies to oil companies estimated at $4 billion a year, thats nothing to do with anything, and its a Trillion dollar industry! Clinton in 1998 bombed Iraq, went on TV telling US public they had WMD, nuclear, chemical, biological. 9-11 crash economy, caused Fed Reserve to inflate currency. M-2 up 87% 10 yrs.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Nice try! I know you would like to like to put the blame on poor people and entitlement spending, but we had both for a long time and we never had a crash like we did in 2008. FBI did some investigating, and they concluded that the crash of 2008 had to do faud investments of Wallstreet. Procecuting faud investors, getting bail out money back, and seizing investors funds should deal with a lot of the debt mess were in if some politicans have the guts.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Housing prices went way, way up. Mortgages are necessary, to fund these high prices. When housing prices fell the value of mortgages also fell. They are bank assets. This entire process impossible without a large increase in the credit to pay for higher priced mortgages. Federal Reserve is where to cash to finance bubble came from. Without a lot of new mortgage money, there would be nothing to finance the bubble with. No bubble, no crash, no banking crisis.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 It sounds like you are for bank regulation. Or am I missing your point? Would you like to see members of the Fed arrested, money seized, and the bailout money returned?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful I am for eliminating the Federal Reserve. I am for eliminating the monopoly the Federal Govt has over money itself. I am for eliminating FDIC insurance, which guarantees safety of savings. This policy means NOBODY worries about bank solvency. Bankers can take risks, and customers dont care, dont read ratings as to safety. Risky banks make more money, offer better terms than safe banks can. So, safe banks are at a disadvantage, and risky banks have advantage. PERVERSE!
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 How do you feel about bankers gambling with other people's money? From what I hear, the way it works is that the bankers gamble with other people's money then just before the economy crashes again (which looks like it will happen) they pass those same toxix assets to someone else to live it up? Also, you never answered my question. If you are constantly against government entitlement programs and bailouts, how do feel about getting the government bailout money back?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful "Gambling" with other people`s money implies you know what gambling actually is. Suppose I have money. YOU tell me just ONE investment that is NOT gambling. You must realize bankers loan out money, that a small fraction of deposits is actually in the bank. The rest is a risk. Do you want bankers to keep 100% in the bank? Not loan any out? So, no car loans, mortgages, business loans, credit cards? Bankers charge YOU, for storage of cash? Lets be factual.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 What I mean, using the word gambling, is taking chances selling known toxic mortgages while hoping that the lobbied government doesn't prosecute. There are a lot of cases that were thrown out that the FBI warned about in 2004. Putting this aside, you still didn't answer my question. Do you want the government bailout money put back?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Part 2 post) The passing of assets is known as "securitization:, and was started by the Govt sponsored enterprises themselves, reselling mortgages. So, 1st of all, lets not blame bankers for following Govts lead. Bailouts were TARP bill, and most of that money has long been repaid. Govt sponsored enterprises, Fannie, Freddie (mortgages) have not repaid, nor AIG (insurance on mortgage securities). If you delete Govts own firms, just AIG, which is all, and Govt OWNS AIG
luvcheney1 1 month ago
You're not constant. You quoted exact prices on every entitlement program to make the case to kill those programs, yet you defend Wall-Street's right to keep their government bailout. You don't like government programs, yet you don't mine free unearned money going to Wall-street which is hypocritical. If you were a true conservative you would argue that Wall-street should give all the money back with interest since the FBI clearly state on some websites that they cause the 08 crash.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful The fucking word is "consistent". Look, US Congress CREATED Fannie, Freddie and CONGRESS is responsible for this mess. They dont HAVE the money. These institutions shouldnt EXIST, or EVER have existed. AIG is paying back, and everyone else HAS paid back, AT INTEREST. Govt holds equity interest now of AIG. Govt OWNS them. Revuew the VOTE on TARP, by Political Party. Note, house reps AGAINST, Dems FOR. Senate reps had higher % against than Dems. Dems liked bailout MORE.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Yet, very few have been held accountable for the crash of 2008. People haven't seen a lot of arrests, and the same people you are defending still give each other bonuses from government bail out money that you want them to keep. Do you truly believe that the FBI was wrong about Wall-Street being the main reason why the crash happen in 2008? Also, do you think that Wall-Street operates under the same laws of poor people? Lastly, thanks for the spelling correction.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Post 2. So, bottom line is you damn banks for gambling, but are totally unable to name ONE, SAFE investment. If that is the case, you really ought not to be damning anyone. BTW, I have substantial capital. Having capital makes ME think about risk, and I will readily admit, there is NO safe investment. Therefore, I see every fucking thing I can invest in as being gambling. Why? Because it IS. My net worth varies by as much as $8,000/day. And, I am in what I THINK is SAFE.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 I didn't say I wanted to "damn" anybody, and I'm not against capitalism. However, when I see you defend the right for Wall-Street to keep Government money that they did not earn, I feel its my duty to call you a non-conservative. Can't you see that if you allow Wall-Street to keep one penny of government money by processing it as normal business, that it would lead to vulture capitalism resulting in the lobbying of Congress that supresses the voters of the majority?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Note the following. I am AGAINST the TARP bill. Republicans in Congress as a gruop did NOT support TARP bill nearly as much as Dems did. I am just stating a fact, that most of TARP has been repaid by the evil banks already. Fannie and Freddie are creations of the govt, and should never have BEEN created, as Govt has NO business in helping anyone buy a home. They are so broke it is not possible even for them to STOP asking for money. AIG is too. I WANT them bankrupt.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@sholmesful Post 2) I am NOT defending bailouts, never did! It is not free market. You seem to have been unaware that nearly all TARP was already repaid. You want something that mostly already happened. Fannie, Freddie are still bleeding, but govt made them, and the whole world is full of their loans, and they are worthless. Govt promised to pay them, thats WRONG, but govt created these entities. AIG IS paying back, hasnt finished.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
First you say that most of the government money that was given in bailouts was return. Then, you say all government money was giving back. Can you make up your mind? Now, I must apologize, I didn't respond to your early question on gambling. You wanted to know if I'm against loans, and the answer is no. Here's an idea I heard from someone else, have investors put their own money into the gambling pot on Wall-Street instead of Tax payer dollars that way they lose with everyone else.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Reviewing my last to posts, regarding TARP, and bailouts ( same thing), one time I said "nearly all", and the other "most of". Those 2 posts are true. I also noted to you exactly WHO hasnt paid back, 2 govt created co`s explicity backed by Fed Govt anyway, and AIG, who has paid back SOME. "Proprietory investing" is when a bank risks its OWN funds, and the Govt has slowed the practice, they dont LIKE IT. Banls lost money cause homes fell in value, thats IT.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
luvcheney1 Are you a Ron Paul supporter? Also, there is a big difference between bankers and investors. Investors don't lose a thing when they gamble with the stakeholders and tax payers money. Investors could by shares into a company, but if it goes bad they sell it quickly to avoid paying anything. Are you defending Investors now? What's wrong with making Investory put their skin into the game? Lasty, "Proprietory" is spelled "Proprietary".
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Its not "stakeholders", its "stockholders". Investors are stockholders, bondholders. It is THEIR capital. TARP was wrong. Dems supported it far more than Reps did, because it is NOT free market. BTW, unemployment compensation over the original, taxed for time period, is a bailout. Food stamps, welfare. I oppose ALL bailouts. I dont think you really KNOW what opposing bank bailouts means. Total economic collapse. I accept it, as we only postponed that. Its still coming
luvcheney1 1 month ago
You’re right about the written difference between stakeholders and stockholders, but in reality you’re wrong because Investors used Tax payer money. Considering the damage they've done, taking tax payer money, leads me to believe that they still owe the US. Also, you favor cuts in food stamps and welfare, but do you favor government subsidy cuts in Oil, Nuclear, and Viagra? Lastly, you never responded to my question about forcing Investors to put their skin in the game.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Derivatives failed & broke the banks, were based on mortgages. The bailouts were after the fact. If you think mortgages are gambling, OK fine, But still, this was before bailouts. Bailouts werent invested, or "gambled", but filled holes already existing. And free market folks do NOT support bailouts. US Dept of Energy says per megawatt hr of energy, solar and wind get $23, and oil, nat gas get 24 cents. Obama says oil subsidy $5 bill, spending $3800 billion. Its nothing.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
The FBI said that the main reason why the crash happened was due to deals on Wall-Street, and they wrote a letter in 2004 on this issue so why go back to it? Also, you still haven't respond to my question about making investors put their skin in the game. Now, why are you mentioning wind & solar prices? I mentioned government giveaways like Viagra to see how big your hatred for all government giveaways is. For example, would you like to see the end of the DEA like Ron Paul?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful There have been Panics and Crashes throughout history, Booms and Busts. However you phrase them. Big crashes have something in common. Monetary expansion precedes the crashes. ALWAYS. Monetary policy is one of the LEAST discussed, or understood topics. For example, while the nation debated $800 billion in bailouts, the Federal Reserve poured $7 TRILLION into the system. Bloomberg, Fox sued for the info, under Freedom of Info Act. This is not discussed, by media.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 When those Booms and bust happen who's left to pay the bill? Also, who avoids being liable? The tax payers pay the bill will when the economy suddenly crashes. The investors avoid the cost by selling their toxic assets. Why not force investors to put their skin in the game? Why not fight for the end of insider trading?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful You miss the big picture here, because monetary policy isnt reported much, nor understood. The Federal Reserve, created by govt CAUSES the booms and busts, not investors, not banks, not taxpayers. The big banks, and Lehman, AIG, etc all had losses because of the crash. They didnt profit from it. Those who bought "toxic assets" were investors. Insider trading is NOT the topic. How about 30 years of FALLING interest rates, that wouldnt cause home buying? Wise up!
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 By accepting that the fall of 2008 was mostly due to home owners buying more than they could afford means that you're telling me that the FBI was wrong. Do you believe the FBI to be an agency of ignorant people. Lastly investor(s) don't lose anything because they don't risk their money. Investors risk our money. Again, what's wrong with making them risk their money?
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful Please REFER me to the URL, cut and paste it, send a Private Message, about the FBI report. The FBI is NOT an agency entrusted with economic analysis, buddy, but, I`ll look at what you got. When you put money in a bank, you KNOW it is going to be invested. Dont you? Really? If you DONT want it invested, dont invest it. Dig a fucking hole somewhere, and HIDE it, put in your sock drawer, in a box of cereal. If you give it away, to be invested, thats YOUR fucking problem.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Just because COPS have a reality TV show explaining how they hunt down crooks doesn't mean the FBI isn't real due to a lack of a FBI reality TV show. The FBI has a big white collar crime unit dedicated to stopping fraud. The youtube format won't allow me to paste links. Give me your email, and I'll send the direct link.
Pay close attention to how investors use CDS to create a riskless environment for themselves.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful I already told you stupid, send a personal message, on You tube. You CAN send URLS. You know what you tube is? Youre on it? a CDS is an insurance policy, and folks wanted to insure "bags of mortgages". You know, derivatives? The big, bad derivatives were just securitized mortgages, invented by govt sponsored enterprise, Ginnie Mae.The CDS issue comes right back around to the original fucking issue in the first place. Housing bubble. Bubble caused by Fed credit.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@sholmesful FBI looks for crimes, they dont analyze fucking economic collapses. There may be, have been, incidences of fraudulent, criminal activities, but there always are. Nobody sane maintains THAT collapsed the economy. I know commies and Pinkos say bankers are criminals, but note how bankers arent being jailed, they did nothing wrong. Now, some mortgage originators forged papers, but criminal activity NEVER created the mortgage credit, that blew up the housing bubble.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Please read the website link I gave you! Just because you haven't heard of anyone going to jail doesn't mean that a crime hasn't happen. Also, it's easy for any to say no crime has taken place so long as lobbyist exists. So, let’s agree to vote on a measure to fire member(s) of government who hold stock(s) in any organization that would create a conflict of interest.
sholmesful 1 month ago
@sholmesful You didnt give me an FBI source?
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 In you last paragraph, you created an incomplete sentence. "However you phrase them" is and incomplete sentence when you write it then end it with a period.
sholmesful 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012
FriesMinus 1 month ago
2:50 that's the tenth amendment
NathanJosephCole 1 month ago
UMMMMM. EXCUSE ME?! YOU ARE SUM KND OF PIGENEONS FORESKIN OR SUMIN OUT HERE. JEEZ CRIST PPLS ARE DUMBS NOW. FUCK THAT AND WHY YOU THINK JUS CAUSE SPANISH HE CANT PAINT TITS?!
nextelement2009 1 month ago
I don't care how "socialist" income tax may be. Who the fuck is going to pay for our roads and our infrastructure if nobody pays taxes? Do you think some nice rich man is going to build this country for us? Get a clue.
Numbuh7 1 month ago 11
@Numbuh7 Do it like the SUCCESSFUL european nations do, private businesses. Guess what, before we had government take over some private businesses(like education), it cost less than a hundredth of what it costs now to go to college. Airport security would answer to public outcry, not government demand(we would have lost unnecessary strip searches in no time if they answered to business. The companies that did better on that aspect would thrive better). Government isn't a necessity in all fields.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Numbuh7 Surely you know but have let the tax collected on every gallon of gas,not to mention tax on fuel,permits ect. on commercial vehicles slip your mind? Not one penny of income tax goes on infrastructure.Every last dime goes straight to the Federal Reserve to cover interest on the money we gave them (bail outs) and then borrowed...Just saying.
sparrow053 1 month ago
@Numbuh7 Income Tax goes to pay off the interest of our debt to the federal reserve. Roads and infastructure are paid for with state and city tax which the people are allowed to vote on just what that tax may be. Please educate yourself more on the Fed and why we are paying them for the paper money when the treasury can print off paper money for free so no Federal Income tax would be needed. You do know that the Federal Reserve bank is not ran by the government don't you? Who needs to get clue?
TheGreatConspiracy 1 month ago
@Numbuh7 Shh Quite buddy, don't say that too loudly, the Ron Paul cultists might hear you, and they are an aggressive bunch! Yes they are aggressive because apparently their messiah is Perfect in every way shape and form! LOL!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
@deeppurple28 No one believes that. I am voting for Ron Paul because I know how to prioritize, and priority one is ending the militarism..
Thousands of children die whom you will never see, secretive drone strikes in Sovereignty peace time countries that take children with them as collateral damage.
These people are real, I am voting Ron Paul to give them a chance at life, don't presume I'm voting for Ron Paul because I personally believe he is perfect or you come across as an arrogant IDIOT.
wowmage666 1 month ago
@wowmage666 Don't worry, thousands more will die from lack of health care! Since wRong Paul wants to privatize everything, Thousands of children will die from lack of health care! Its funny how wRong Paul blames the government for high medical costs, yet I wonder who will he blame when people with pre existing conditions are denied health care coverage!! Ron Paul you say? I SAY NOPE! He can't be President anyway..!
deeppurple28 1 month ago
@Numbuh7 we can still pay taxes on consumerism.
PitBullsBiteHard 1 month ago
@PitBullsBiteHard no loop holes, everyone would be equal. plus if no one could pay fines but instead had to do community service a lot of small stuff could get done for free.
PitBullsBiteHard 1 month ago
@Numbuh7 Um, yeah, like has been done successfully in many other countries. Our Infrastructure hasn't been that widely regulated or 'upkept' in decades. A private business would go out of business if that were the case(even get sued), but no, if the government is the one 'slacking' it just gets brushed off. Government run water facilities are the best example of this, with many of them running on 70 year old tech. I think even TYT had a story about this the other day.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
@Numbuh7 A far higher percent of GDP was being invested in the building of roads privately, in the early 1800`s, as compared with 1950`s. Govt`s monopoly on roads has lead to severe road shortages, known as traffic jams, freeway congestion. Led to dependence on automobiles. Crumbling infrastructures, as gas taxes wasted on other things. Road building, upkeep is to come from license fees, and gas taxes. Those who use, pay. Semi`s pay more, they burn more fuel.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@Numbuh7 you pay taxes on commerce and various other things like a flat tax. Read a history book. Educate yourself as not to sound like a moron. Here in Texas, we pay for our roads with money from the gas tax that you pay every time you fill your tank as well as tolls. Looks like you need to get a clue.
mmkaufman 1 month ago 2
Cenk Uygur does not understand that the "general welfare" must be apportioned to ALL citizens equally. Not robbing from one group to give to another.
MegaBadhorsie 1 month ago
@MegaBadhorsie Exactly, in their context it doesn't mean "tax this guy, give to this guy". It doesn't fit with pretty much everything else they'd said in the Constitution. It's probably an 'era vocabulary' deal that we're misinterpreting(like Fill and Refill being the same word was an issue with Martin Luther's translations in his era).
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
if your country is on a gold standard and another country wants to convert their currency into yours, or trade with you, they can't right? Cuz they'd be giving you paper in exchange for gold...they'd have to use their gold reserves? I don't get it...
Also, if all the countries gave America their gold reserves, the US still wouldn't have enough gold to back up their currency at an equilibrium level...
warwize 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Every penny of the income tax now goes directly to the Federal reserve ! If you are referring to the 19th amendment to the constitution giving the government the right to tax our wages you are mistaken.It #1 was never ratified and #2 Found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.The court has ruled taxing wages unconstitutional on multiple occasions. So we give all taxes collected to the fed so they can loan our money back to us at interest! Ron Paul is "right on" Cenk. Read up!!!!
sparrow053 1 month ago
@sparrow053 I want to see TYT ADDRESS their lack of expertise in the Economic area. It really shows when they have debates with Peter Schiff and they say "that's not true! That never happenned" when Peter Schiff talked about Income tax and our history on the depression. After Schiff mentioned the income tax didn't exist before 1913, Cenk went "Pffft, of course I know that", where as seconds before, he implied it was a 'constitutionally sanctioned' organization...
MontajBlaze 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
at least hes focusing on problems here at home (even though he's kinda ass backwards on some important issues) but these things can be worked with....Im still voting for Ron paul b/c at least he isnt signing our rights away on paper like Obama who doesnt even know what the word "Unconstitutional" even means...i bet he'd wipe his ass with it if it were given to him to read
MegaTrollerOfTruth 1 month ago
Arguing against paper money? It's not about arguing against paper money, it's about having a gold standard instead of a currency strictly controlled by how many bills the federal reserve wants to print to increase inflation.
ohedd 1 month ago 12
@ohedd
how did the gold standard workout for you during the great depression?
during WW1 and WW2?
why was it scrapped over and over? how come the countries that got off the gold standard the quickest, like Japan, and implemented Keynesian monetary policy got out of the great depression the fastest?
warwize 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@warwize The problem today is the inflation and the Keynesianism! That we put money on bailouts, parachutes and different rescuing packages. With a gold standard inflation wouldn't be a problem unless chickens started laying golden eggs. Keynesianism is not the answer to this crisis. It's interesting how the price on oil has been consistant with the value of gold, whereas it's increased by almost 300% compared to the dollar. Much of the gas prices are due to inflation.
ohedd 1 month ago
@warwize The dollar has increased by 300% compared to a barrel of oil* sorry.
ohedd 1 month ago
@ohedd
guess how much the value of gold would change if America went on the gold standard.
you can't simply peg your currency to some arbitrary value of gold, it has to reach an equilibrium. How much would that be? I don't think you understand the consequences.
If gold was great against inflation why did the inflation adjusted price of gold fall from almost $1850 in 1980 to $352 in 2001? Over that time period 21 years, it lost over 80% of its value.
warwize 1 month ago
@warwize Some inflation over a period of time is needed in order to keep growth. The gold standard's inflation is more consistent than the dollar's and billprinting will become impossible.
ohedd 1 month ago
@ohedd Review the "Long Depression", from 1873- 1891, there were falling prices, and growth near 6%. Inflation is NOT necessary for growth, we just assume so since we always have had it, lately.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 True. I'm not arguing with that.
ohedd 1 month ago
@warwize Actually, the gold standard was repealed temporarily during the Depression. The Federal Reserve, thriving and young, helped attribute to a massive level of 'disconnect' that helped lead to the crash.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MontajBlaze
repealed in WW1, and during WW2, if you were on gold standard during WW2 America's effort would've been futile
The depression is more complicated than the fed reserves actions, herd mentality and the stock crash are more relevant. There were crashes and bubbles long before central banks. The countries that implemented a stimulus and went off the gold standard the fastest also were out of the depression the quickest...contractionary policy during a recession is absurd
warwize 1 month ago
@MontajBlaze There was 46% inflation of money supply, 1921-1929, fueling the Bubble of the stock market. THEN there was the depression, initiated to stop the bubble. 1995- 2005 we had 83% growth of money supply, fueling 2 bubbles, the DotCom, and housing. Then, we had the crash.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
Ron Paul isn't in the Constitution, therefore he isn't constitutional.
ivanlai0225 1 month ago
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@ivanlai0225 WOW... talk about dumb.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
I was enjoying this video until the host started talking
Vacatino 1 month ago
So you faggot Turks are against Ron Paul ? fucking idiots these days ,
mattador1313 1 month ago
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@mattador1313 they are against the US Constitution
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@mattador1313 Yep.
achievedself 1 month ago
Tyt you are dum fucks!fuck y'all!
kisser635 1 month ago
Ill trade you this peice of paper for that peice of paper ugh... Cenk is getting really fucking stupid
IntoTheVoid96 1 month ago
Everything he said was unconstitutional so what's this video trying to say?
IntoTheVoid96 1 month ago
derp
hysteriahpc 1 month ago
@evirthewarrior
metals come from rocks and the difference from that and paper money is YOU CANT JUST KEEP PRINTING
terrysffr87 1 month ago
@terrysffr87 do you not relise that if we got rid of paper money and went to gold there would not be enof gold to be used think about how much a gold ring costs now how many of those could you buy right now those 100 rings or so is all the money you have you cant break it up to smaller bills or change so if you buy somthing you will have to pay a full ring.
there is not enof gold in the world to be used as a currency anymore
theendofit 1 month ago
nice circus mysic playing in the backround, very mature way to let the man speak. Dr. Ron Paul is the only one running that knows this country needs a full 180 degree trun around. each other person in the running wants to do the same old thing as we see it isnt working. no more paper money "o this rock for that rock" are you even aware that EVERY SINGLE CULTURE USING "FIAT" PAPER CURRENCY HAS HAD THER CURRENCY AND ECONOMY COLLAPSE?? SINCE THE BEGINING OF ROME WITH THE FIRST TYPE, THEY HAVE ALL
terrysffr87 1 month ago
@terrysffr87 and all the ones with out paper money are doing great? no they did not no country will last for all time no matter what things rise and fall things will eventuly change for one reason or another
theendofit 1 month ago
@mweibleii
that would be a terrible system today.
Rustyrunaway 1 month ago
@Rustyrunaway
We probably are doing subconscious trades all the time with friends and family. I know I don't ask for money when I help a friend move house. But, I do expect help when I need it.
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Paul wants more monetary competition. Something the 2011 Nobel Prize Laurette seems to think would be a good idea.
mweibleii 1 month ago
@devourerofbabies
i wasnt saying i want anything, i was just clarifying what ron paul meant.
Rustyrunaway 1 month ago
@Evirthewarrior
cenk was serious.
Rustyrunaway 1 month ago
@Rustyrunaway really, rocks? are you fucking stupid? You are trying to tell me he was serious about rocks? Get real. Also Gold is just like any other currency so how does it make it better than paper? It doesn't we assign a value to gold and it has value. We could do the same with copper, silver, iron, platinum, ect. If/when the entire world economy goes to hell gold wont be worth that much ether. We assign it the value it has. That whole "its never been zero" crap is the same for tons of metals
Evirthewarrior 1 month ago
sorry Cenk but I'm with Paul with this one. Because remember when he says constitution in these videos, he's talking about FEDERAL LEVEL.
if state wants to have social security then YES they can have it and Paul administration will do NOTHING to stop it because it's in x state's constitution. which is in their power to do so.
:x I don't even have to research this kind of things if you listen with open-mind you get it.
Pledius 1 month ago
Cenk, read the 10th amendment.
Barrettatsumaki 1 month ago
I honestly can't say I care when a politician talks about the constitution. I know damn well they don't actually care. They just want us to think they do so we'll vote for them and give them more money and power.
TheCreeperhunter 1 month ago
the constitution doesn't say the "the government shall provide for the general welfare". it says we the people establish this constitution to "provide for the common defense" and to "PROMOTE the general welfare". *promote* and *provide* do not mean the same thing. it doesn't say your government is supposed to give you insurance or loans. the constitution is fairly explicit about the powers of the executive and legislative branches. at the same time, i understand the fear of being dogmatic.
chadimus84 1 month ago
I don't think Cenk get's the point. Ron Paul believes that best government is the government that governs locally. He believes the Federal government was never supposed to be this big and that's why he believes that they don't have the authority to become a bloated bureaucracy as we all know they've become. Ron Paul has a good a point... Centralized governments do become apathetic to it's general population and laws that suite one region may not suite the other.
lestliness 1 month ago
@lAmWatchingYou Some old paper?.. did you even graduate HS?
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol
I'm a foreigner and yes, I did graduate our equivalent of your HS.
I did not mean to demean your constitution (or maybe I did?), but frankly, it's old. That Ron Paul seems to focus on what's "constitutional" so damn much seems goofy to me. Things change, we don't live in the late 18th century anymore.
I don't disapprove of him entirely tho, he's the only guy in the GOP race with real principles, and that's a good thing, even if I don't agree with all of them.
lAmWatchingYou 1 month ago
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@lAmWatchingYou You clearly don't understand the US Constitution - it's a LIVING DOCUMENT,.. like the Magna Carta - or do you think Habeas Corpus is and old concept.
PRINCIPLES OF LIBERTY ARE NEVER OLD, please reconsider.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@AMagicalUsername but he is,.. he killed and american citizen without any proof of anything.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@AMagicalUsername .... you need to read.. and a lot.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@Cyber0Bill slavery? .. are you that fucking slow that you can't palce the US Constitution in today's world?
wtf?
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol - I think you must have missed what I was responding to... Someone said the constitution was somehow a perfect document. I was pointing out that it isn't - it supports slavery. And if you try and say that, since it was written 240 odd years ago, that it somehow is OK for it to be wrong in that regard - then why not throw out the whole thing on the same basis? Clearly, it doesn't work like that. It can be relevant, and important, and flawed, at the same time.
Cyber0Bill 1 month ago
@Cyber0Bill It isn't a perfect document but it is the most amazing document ever designed by human intelligence in the protection of individual Liberty.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol - Absurd. I can take the Constitution, remove the bits about slavery, add some extra provisions like the Bill of Rights that ensure that all people are equal in the eyes of the government regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, and ethnicity, and it would -without any doubt- be a document that is better than the Constitution at protecting the liberty of individuals.
Cyber0Bill 1 month ago