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you've gained only 2mpg with this.. wtf?? I have a friend out of AZ using a HHO on a ford 350 stock he was running 15mpg on the fwy, with his bubbler he is getting over 40mpg so why are you getting so little?!!?
Does anyone know if this tech. would work on a 95 VW Jetta? Has it been known to mess up a cars injection system because of the fuel to air mix ratio is off and the ECU freaks out? I'm reading comments on the EFIE, but whats all that mean?
I think a bit of steam is good for the engine. My unit is fully enclosed with one outlet. Pressure feeds the engine. My engine is carbureted and shows vast improvement in power and HP. Use bronze mesh arrestor instead of bubbler. Adding voltage , .5 volts with a potentiometer will regulate the O2 sensor better. I believe this is more efficient than a EFIE
Dryer cells you need 2 dryer cells. I can sell you an OSHA approved bubbler and spark arrester. I know the fellows at Aquygen and if you live near Ashland, KY come on by and we will fire up the torch for a demo.
I don't know if you have taken this into effect but a vehicle that has oxygen sensors, as a 06' Tacoma would definitely have, doing this type of addition could actually decrease MPG. Hear me out. What an oxygen sensor is designed to do is measures the emissions to determine if the engine is running too lean or too rich. And running a engine on a fraction of HHO will actually decrease emissions (because of the lack of hydrocarbons) making the computer pump more fuel into the engine.
He's VERY aware of that, he has his own design of a dual EFIE to correct that. Check Zero's Googlepages website for a schematic and parts list. Some vehicles behave without it and others freak. My 96 Aerostar went from 20/21 to about 17 with the HHO so it's turned off while I wait for parts to build an EFIE board.
ZERO...JUST USE A DOUBLE BUBBLE...it takes the vacuum off your #1 bubbler so you will not get moisture up the lines. I have it in my vehicle and it works fine.
We need to use palladium. One way or the other, it holds 935 times the hydrogen of other metals. $600/oz. If I sell my 87 volvo, I can get 1.5 ounces LMAO
One could then use a compressor to fill the respective tanks. My question is: How can the cell be adapted to meet this criteria. I surely wouldn't mind leaving the cell and compressor overnight filling up my hydrogen tank. Any suggestions?
I agree you need to separate before compressing but doing it by separating the electrodes defeates the purpose of close gap spacing. To produce the gas efficiently the separation must come downstream.
There is one commercial product that exclusively separates H2 from all other gases.
Its called a "Nafion" membrane, and it was invented by 3M Corp. Once the membrane is wet it will also be conductive. This stuff is less than 1mm thick and it cost more than $100/sq.ft.
It dawned on me that if we want to store this energy, then we really need a clean break up of oxygen and hydrogen. Since by definition, positively charged ions (in this case Hydrogen) rush over to the cathode (negative electrode), and negatively charged ions (oxygen) rush to the anode, it was suggested by Hoffman that if one separates the cathode and anode collections through their own chamber, then the breakup is clean.
Dunno if I just missed the results of the gas saved due to the elektrolyzer. Please publish any results!
Have you thought about the ignition-curve in the car? Concider that H-H / H2 burns alot faster then gasoline... If possible; set the ignitioncurve at ~0 degrees, not like 20 degrees pre-ignite (as it usually is). Or try it in a diesel-engine.
Im curious about this new tec, and eagerly awaiting your results!
I have installed 12v pneumatic solonoid valve between electrolizer and bubbler to prevent water being suck back to electrolizer from bubbler. been running on a 2000cc hyundai trajet for months and the bubbler level still the same. u can search my utube video
All the oxygen an IC engine can get is wonderful. I wouldn't worry about that at all. We just need to adjust the timing to whatever mixture we end up with.
I just paid $4.13 per gallon of gasoline. I am gonna kill myself. I get 24 mpg on my Volvo 740. Yes it is an 87 that works just fine. I don't believe in airbags, nor ABS, nor any other of the bullshit that they put in cars. Anyway, just venting a little. No pressure ZERO *big grin* LOL.
more - Of course, I also have a large inverter system to convert the juice to AC....... just need to get the propane powered generator converted to run on hydrogen or hydroxy without the possibility of 'cooking' the engine.
more - Since it is in a motorhome and I have room underneath for much larger cells and since I carry a large water tank complete with 12 volt pump I think I might be able to produce large amounts of gas. Hopefully enough to run the generator well enough to carry a normal load.
more - I am trying to figure out how I can meter the gas into the engine with the precaution of an over-pressure release valve in the line for when the HHO is being created in excess of what is needed to prevent pressure build up in the system while allowing the system to continue to produce HHO on demand. The carburator/ metering system is already on the motor for propane although I don't know if it would work with HHo since on demand systems have very little pressure.
I would like to try and run my propane generator on my motorhome with HHO. I have searched the net to try and find out if the HHO would be too hot for my generator and ruin it. Also, I understand I may need to change the timing. But then again maybe not since it is designed for propane gas already.
Do you know if HHO would ruin it or not? What if I created the Hydrogen and Oxygen and kept them separate and just fed in the Hydrogen instead of combined as Hydroxy?
Was thinking about HHO, anyone wonder how much O2 is being produced in our cells compared to actual Hydrogen? Both are by-products of splitting the water..Both are highly flammable.. Not that pure 02 would be bad for an ICE engine or harm it in anyway.. probably the exact opposite.. But what we THINK is mostly Hydrogen being produced since it burns, may actually be O2.
Especially if you have more POS than NEG plates.. (neg produces the Hydrogen)
Yes and as oxidizer not technically a flammable gas, yet it will Dramatically increase the intensity of any fuel's comubstion including Hydrogen/Gasoline.
But the question remains, how much is O2 and how much is Hydrogen? Im wondering if the presence of the pure 02 from our cells, along with the Hydrogen is what also increases the efficency of burning Gasoline and Hydrogen, burning as fast/clean as it does?
Just seems to me the 02 production could be just as important as the Hydrogen.
Yes and no: Hydrogen within HHO production cells will be very reactive to the water, and produce a good many H3O (hydronium) cations. I can admit plausibility that mostly O2 could [temporarily] be produced from the electrolysis of water; Equaly plausable, hydronium ion formation acts as an intermediary step to produce hydrogen during electrolysis. Even in bizzare, heavily ionic conditions, a critical saturation would inevitably deplete the oxygen in the cell, thus hydrogen must also be produced.
I plan to run with 93 octane fuel on (reduced) 87 octane timings. This way the HHO beefing up the flame propagation won't cause pinging. Some manner of flash (re)programmer hooked up to the ODBII port should do the trick. What I'm afraid of is that the warmer (summer) conditions could result in unpredicted (much) higher HHO levels entering the engine, thus the flame propagation will STILL be too fast even with the retarded timings. Can't wait to see your pulse modulation keeping HHO steady =^_^=
Zero, I put this up on Video 84 the other day. Did You get a chance to check it out?------------------------------------------------
People keep talking about CO2 censors. Sm0key40 put this up a few months ago. Copy an paste the following in the search area--(Oxygen Sensor Voltage Boost). Tell me what you think. He is getting very good mileage. So, he must also be on the right track.
aaa good... I was getting a bit worried here.... my way of bolting\stacking it all together is not particularly user-friendly, when it comes to having to swap out plates every now and then... mainly because I kind of assumed that 316 SS is more or less forever...
I saw the video where you mix the electrolyte. Water (1cup), Baking Soda (2spoons), Vinegar (1 shot), Hydrogen Peroxide (2 caps), and rubbing alcohol (1/2 cup)? I estimated the proportions from the video. Now I can't find the video to confirm. Is this right?
LOL.. You are right... Well to be more specific, I would never want to insult an engine. The volatility of hydrogen requires the timing to be at 0 or TDC.
You guys do realize I suppose that the metal plates will be used up and have to be replaced. I noticed many people using very thin plates. Fine for experimenting but not too good in the real world I would think.
You do realize, Mr. know-it-all, that while 304 SS is prone to rapid deterioration if you apply more than 2.5v between plates, at 2.5v or less they last practically forever. And, I am using 316L which withstands even higher voltages without deteriorarion.
Pipe down and pay attention. You might learn something.
Why would it matter if the cell area is completely full of fluid. As long as they can escape to the bubbler no compression would take place. As long as gas and oxy can escape from the bubbler into the line out it would not build it there either. Seems over engineered like so many others.
Over engineered? No. The reason for keeping the level down is to prevent the primary power conductors with 13.8V across them from contacting the fluid. This produces too much heat and greatly reduces cell efficiency. They are insulated with heat shrink up to the max fluid level within the tank.
I have tried insulating them all the way to the top with goop but the electrolysis always eats through the stuff and splits away from the metal.
it is possible to run your car on pure hydrogen, proven fact! pulses only help with a few things, increase current flow during pulse, lets water go inbetween the plates. the solinoyd you got is great, but how can u build one, would it not be better if you keep 100% water electrolyt solution in the cell while the hho it produces goes strait to the engine? also, if you creat backpressure on the cell, you can shoot more HHO into the engine as well as at a faster rate!
In reviewing the Stan Meyers HFC (Hydrogen Fuel Cell) I've noticed that he injects three high frequency pulses during the time when the PWM is conducting. I believe these high frequency pulses (aprox. 40Khz) might be the resonant frequency of H2O but this is only a guess. Are you going to try and attempt to do the same thing?
How much difference dose a pwm make as opposed to no pwm, and how exactly dose it increase production - the mechanism, dose it make hho move from the ss quicker or dose it actually make the ss produce more hho gas. Hope my question makes sense to you, I understand what I mean... lol.
In most cases a PWM only makes it easier to regulate the average current going into a cell but does little to increase production efficiency over straight DC. At least that's been the finding of most people.
Tonight I just put the finishing touches on a new schematic diagram for a PWM that can sense and regulate current as well as vary freq and duty cycle. I have a number of data gathering tests to perform with this new device as soon as it's built.
No worries. I love your brain, so unless I can't watch you on youtube then we have no problems. I am female btw. Just in case you though I was male. I grew up in a mechanic shop, hence my interest. Thank you again for your invaluable information.
For optimum hydrogen combustion a O2:H2 ratio of 3:1 is required. 2L/min prodcution from your cell translates to 1.32L/min of hydrogen. It would be interesting to know the true oxygen intake into the engine.
Now that is bound to be making a dent into ones fuel consumption...
I'm rendering up a lamination version of your cell, it's a bit high tech as far as fabrication method goes, but then that's where things should go....
I might have missed it so forgive me, But if a non return valve where to be installed in between the electrolizer and bubbler, should that not take care of the drinking problems.
Yes actually, it would as long as there's a 2nd one to let air into the cell on cool-down placed before the one way valve to the bubbler. The only downside to this arrangement is you can never attach it to the intake manifold vacuum. Not that I would want to anyway but some might.
Hey Zero...excellent video presentation. You have been quite an inspiration to me in my designs. I'm looking forward to hearing the outcome of you mileage test. Hopefully when I'm done with my cell I can do the same. Keep up the awesome work.
I am new to this so I apologize if this is a dumb question. You have a blow out valve on the VSPB, but if you get a flash back or back fire from the vehicle will it not spark in the bubble first causing the bubbler to blow up?
Yeah I know that the blow out valve is on the top of the VSPB, but should you also have a blow out valve on the bubbler or is that just over kill? I was just concerned that the bubbler would ignite and explode.
It's not overkill. I actually do have a blowout on the bubbler too in the form of a rubber stopper but I don't think it's adequate and I'm too chicken to test it. ;-)
I just want to say. out of all the people posting video's on this subject, your presentation is the best. very scientific approach, good speaker, awesome data gathering skills. A++
Zero, I am a fan. I have been watching you from the beginning and just now have I gotten an account. I have a test request. Can you run a cell with the voltage from an ignition coil pulsing it some how? Maybe 2 coils alternating on a Mechanical Switch? While one is discharging one will be reloading. Just a question I have had.
Hi Zero, it was suggest on a forum, to use oil pressure switch for a safety mecanism, that way, if you stall the vehicule or leave the ignition on, there won't be a formation of HHO. It's just a sharing of information, i tough it was a great idea, since every car has one, no motor run, no oil pressure, no HHO.
in the sense of sharing info, I would suggest using the fuel pump relay, most oil switches area varible voltage output now days, but the engine is only running is the fuel is on
mielectric1, what about an engine stall, will the fuel pump relay still be in running? Cause when i turn my ignition switch on, i can ear my fuel pump spinning and the engine is not even started yet!
no, fuel pump relays are also switched by the fuel pressure sensor ie; ign on~relay on~fuel pump on~fuel pressure up to norm~relay off~ pump off~ fuel used/eng running/pressure drops below norm~relay on.i hope your pump is not constantly running with eng not running (could be a bad sensor,but then what do i know you already knew that). btw "HAIL ZERO"
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graywackeknifebdr 1 year ago
you've gained only 2mpg with this.. wtf?? I have a friend out of AZ using a HHO on a ford 350 stock he was running 15mpg on the fwy, with his bubbler he is getting over 40mpg so why are you getting so little?!!?
fightingthebs 1 year ago
@fightingthebs it's tougher with high MPG smaller disacement engines.
ZeroFossilFuel 1 year ago
Does anyone know if this tech. would work on a 95 VW Jetta? Has it been known to mess up a cars injection system because of the fuel to air mix ratio is off and the ECU freaks out? I'm reading comments on the EFIE, but whats all that mean?
TheWARoREN 3 years ago
I think a bit of steam is good for the engine. My unit is fully enclosed with one outlet. Pressure feeds the engine. My engine is carbureted and shows vast improvement in power and HP. Use bronze mesh arrestor instead of bubbler. Adding voltage , .5 volts with a potentiometer will regulate the O2 sensor better. I believe this is more efficient than a EFIE
MMadmike 3 years ago
yeah, they used to use water injection in wwii fighters... at the cost of increased engine wear
flatl1n3 3 years ago
Dryer cells you need 2 dryer cells. I can sell you an OSHA approved bubbler and spark arrester. I know the fellows at Aquygen and if you live near Ashland, KY come on by and we will fire up the torch for a demo.
freedomorelse 3 years ago
I don't know if you have taken this into effect but a vehicle that has oxygen sensors, as a 06' Tacoma would definitely have, doing this type of addition could actually decrease MPG. Hear me out. What an oxygen sensor is designed to do is measures the emissions to determine if the engine is running too lean or too rich. And running a engine on a fraction of HHO will actually decrease emissions (because of the lack of hydrocarbons) making the computer pump more fuel into the engine.
123chargeit 3 years ago 4
He's VERY aware of that, he has his own design of a dual EFIE to correct that. Check Zero's Googlepages website for a schematic and parts list. Some vehicles behave without it and others freak. My 96 Aerostar went from 20/21 to about 17 with the HHO so it's turned off while I wait for parts to build an EFIE board.
rhblakeman 3 years ago
ZERO...JUST USE A DOUBLE BUBBLE...it takes the vacuum off your #1 bubbler so you will not get moisture up the lines. I have it in my vehicle and it works fine.
goturtlepoop 3 years ago
Is there a way to get a spec of everything?
almunoztx 3 years ago
Why not just T off to a one way valve?
ronjinsan 3 years ago
I'd be insterested in one of those valves!! Give me a shout.
kevlauenterprises 3 years ago
anyone know something about TiSi2 + Sunlight in water......
IIIRotor 3 years ago
We need to use palladium. One way or the other, it holds 935 times the hydrogen of other metals. $600/oz. If I sell my 87 volvo, I can get 1.5 ounces LMAO
vanky66 3 years ago
One could then use a compressor to fill the respective tanks. My question is: How can the cell be adapted to meet this criteria. I surely wouldn't mind leaving the cell and compressor overnight filling up my hydrogen tank. Any suggestions?
vanky66 3 years ago
I agree you need to separate before compressing but doing it by separating the electrodes defeates the purpose of close gap spacing. To produce the gas efficiently the separation must come downstream.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I realize that... But there we are. There has to be a way.
vanky66 3 years ago
There is one commercial product that exclusively separates H2 from all other gases.
Its called a "Nafion" membrane, and it was invented by 3M Corp. Once the membrane is wet it will also be conductive. This stuff is less than 1mm thick and it cost more than $100/sq.ft.
islander98110 3 years ago
It dawned on me that if we want to store this energy, then we really need a clean break up of oxygen and hydrogen. Since by definition, positively charged ions (in this case Hydrogen) rush over to the cathode (negative electrode), and negatively charged ions (oxygen) rush to the anode, it was suggested by Hoffman that if one separates the cathode and anode collections through their own chamber, then the breakup is clean.
vanky66 3 years ago
You're right. I've seperated the gases efficiently by using SS nails encased in a tube. It helps to have the electrodes close but it's not necessary.
jesslessthemess 3 years ago
how have you managed to separate the gases by using SS nails encased in a tube? tks.
newtechno 3 years ago
hello!
Are you using the "#29 Electrolyzer" in that car?
Dunno if I just missed the results of the gas saved due to the elektrolyzer. Please publish any results!
Have you thought about the ignition-curve in the car? Concider that H-H / H2 burns alot faster then gasoline... If possible; set the ignitioncurve at ~0 degrees, not like 20 degrees pre-ignite (as it usually is). Or try it in a diesel-engine.
Im curious about this new tec, and eagerly awaiting your results!
Best regards!
plupptarmtroll 3 years ago
Same form factor, half the spacing, twice as many plates, 316L instead of 304.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I have installed 12v pneumatic solonoid valve between electrolizer and bubbler to prevent water being suck back to electrolizer from bubbler. been running on a 2000cc hyundai trajet for months and the bubbler level still the same. u can search my utube video
7-TUBES ELECTRODE car test
ballscrewpro 3 years ago
All the oxygen an IC engine can get is wonderful. I wouldn't worry about that at all. We just need to adjust the timing to whatever mixture we end up with.
vanky66 3 years ago
I just paid $4.13 per gallon of gasoline. I am gonna kill myself. I get 24 mpg on my Volvo 740. Yes it is an 87 that works just fine. I don't believe in airbags, nor ABS, nor any other of the bullshit that they put in cars. Anyway, just venting a little. No pressure ZERO *big grin* LOL.
vanky66 3 years ago
good but more complication...what would be wrong with 1m of tubing between cell and bubbler?????????
stevecuh 3 years ago
Only everything.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
ZFF, just wanted to let you know I find all your videos very interesting. Keep up the good work, I think you are on to something.
daglcr 3 years ago
Just for curiosity, how stable is H3O.
IIIRotor 3 years ago
That depends on the pH of the water solution, and the amount of electricity juggling ions around.
kuzetsa 3 years ago
more - Of course, I also have a large inverter system to convert the juice to AC....... just need to get the propane powered generator converted to run on hydrogen or hydroxy without the possibility of 'cooking' the engine.
Any ideas anyone?
BushPilot444 3 years ago
more - Since it is in a motorhome and I have room underneath for much larger cells and since I carry a large water tank complete with 12 volt pump I think I might be able to produce large amounts of gas. Hopefully enough to run the generator well enough to carry a normal load.
BushPilot444 3 years ago
more - I am trying to figure out how I can meter the gas into the engine with the precaution of an over-pressure release valve in the line for when the HHO is being created in excess of what is needed to prevent pressure build up in the system while allowing the system to continue to produce HHO on demand. The carburator/ metering system is already on the motor for propane although I don't know if it would work with HHo since on demand systems have very little pressure.
BushPilot444 3 years ago
I would like to try and run my propane generator on my motorhome with HHO. I have searched the net to try and find out if the HHO would be too hot for my generator and ruin it. Also, I understand I may need to change the timing. But then again maybe not since it is designed for propane gas already.
Do you know if HHO would ruin it or not? What if I created the Hydrogen and Oxygen and kept them separate and just fed in the Hydrogen instead of combined as Hydroxy?
BushPilot444 3 years ago
Was thinking about HHO, anyone wonder how much O2 is being produced in our cells compared to actual Hydrogen? Both are by-products of splitting the water..Both are highly flammable.. Not that pure 02 would be bad for an ICE engine or harm it in anyway.. probably the exact opposite.. But what we THINK is mostly Hydrogen being produced since it burns, may actually be O2.
Especially if you have more POS than NEG plates.. (neg produces the Hydrogen)
Maybe it doesnt matter just curious
moreoverunity 3 years ago
O2 isnt a flammable gas, it is an oxidizer and only supports combustion.
badtexasz28 3 years ago
Yes and as oxidizer not technically a flammable gas, yet it will Dramatically increase the intensity of any fuel's comubstion including Hydrogen/Gasoline.
But the question remains, how much is O2 and how much is Hydrogen? Im wondering if the presence of the pure 02 from our cells, along with the Hydrogen is what also increases the efficency of burning Gasoline and Hydrogen, burning as fast/clean as it does?
Just seems to me the 02 production could be just as important as the Hydrogen.
moreoverunity 3 years ago
Yes and no: Hydrogen within HHO production cells will be very reactive to the water, and produce a good many H3O (hydronium) cations. I can admit plausibility that mostly O2 could [temporarily] be produced from the electrolysis of water; Equaly plausable, hydronium ion formation acts as an intermediary step to produce hydrogen during electrolysis. Even in bizzare, heavily ionic conditions, a critical saturation would inevitably deplete the oxygen in the cell, thus hydrogen must also be produced.
kuzetsa 3 years ago
I plan to run with 93 octane fuel on (reduced) 87 octane timings. This way the HHO beefing up the flame propagation won't cause pinging. Some manner of flash (re)programmer hooked up to the ODBII port should do the trick. What I'm afraid of is that the warmer (summer) conditions could result in unpredicted (much) higher HHO levels entering the engine, thus the flame propagation will STILL be too fast even with the retarded timings. Can't wait to see your pulse modulation keeping HHO steady =^_^=
kuzetsa 3 years ago
Zero, I put this up on Video 84 the other day. Did You get a chance to check it out?------------------------------------------------
People keep talking about CO2 censors. Sm0key40 put this up a few months ago. Copy an paste the following in the search area--(Oxygen Sensor Voltage Boost). Tell me what you think. He is getting very good mileage. So, he must also be on the right track.
survival0201 3 years ago
aaa good... I was getting a bit worried here.... my way of bolting\stacking it all together is not particularly user-friendly, when it comes to having to swap out plates every now and then... mainly because I kind of assumed that 316 SS is more or less forever...
IIIRotor 3 years ago
Hi Zero..
I saw the video where you mix the electrolyte. Water (1cup), Baking Soda (2spoons), Vinegar (1 shot), Hydrogen Peroxide (2 caps), and rubbing alcohol (1/2 cup)? I estimated the proportions from the video. Now I can't find the video to confirm. Is this right?
vanky66 3 years ago
Don't know. It's NOT MY VIDEO! Nor do I use vinegar or peroxide.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Oh nooooo... You caught me cheating on you. LOL.... I saw so many videos that I have little lights in my eyes.
vanky66 3 years ago
THAT'S IT! I WANT A DIVORCE! LOL!!!
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
LMAO!!! I am taking half of everything...
Incidently did you retard the timing at all in the car?.. I haven't seen you talk about that.
vanky66 3 years ago
that is "Less advance".... never say "retard" .... car's have feeling tooo you know..... LOL.
IIIRotor 3 years ago
LOL.. You are right... Well to be more specific, I would never want to insult an engine. The volatility of hydrogen requires the timing to be at 0 or TDC.
vanky66 3 years ago
Vanky66, You are refering to sm0key40's video. I believe that the electrolyte mix is his "winter blend."
survival0201 3 years ago
Look under Sm0ky40. Winter mix.
outdoorfan1 3 years ago
is that not the hole idea behind using Stainless 316, to prevent it from getting used up...
IIIRotor 3 years ago
Yes. See my comment below.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
You guys do realize I suppose that the metal plates will be used up and have to be replaced. I noticed many people using very thin plates. Fine for experimenting but not too good in the real world I would think.
BushPilot444 3 years ago
You do realize, Mr. know-it-all, that while 304 SS is prone to rapid deterioration if you apply more than 2.5v between plates, at 2.5v or less they last practically forever. And, I am using 316L which withstands even higher voltages without deteriorarion.
Pipe down and pay attention. You might learn something.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Why would it matter if the cell area is completely full of fluid. As long as they can escape to the bubbler no compression would take place. As long as gas and oxy can escape from the bubbler into the line out it would not build it there either. Seems over engineered like so many others.
BushPilot444 3 years ago
Over engineered? No. The reason for keeping the level down is to prevent the primary power conductors with 13.8V across them from contacting the fluid. This produces too much heat and greatly reduces cell efficiency. They are insulated with heat shrink up to the max fluid level within the tank.
I have tried insulating them all the way to the top with goop but the electrolysis always eats through the stuff and splits away from the metal.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
it is possible to run your car on pure hydrogen, proven fact! pulses only help with a few things, increase current flow during pulse, lets water go inbetween the plates. the solinoyd you got is great, but how can u build one, would it not be better if you keep 100% water electrolyt solution in the cell while the hho it produces goes strait to the engine? also, if you creat backpressure on the cell, you can shoot more HHO into the engine as well as at a faster rate!
blazedkirby 3 years ago
In reviewing the Stan Meyers HFC (Hydrogen Fuel Cell) I've noticed that he injects three high frequency pulses during the time when the PWM is conducting. I believe these high frequency pulses (aprox. 40Khz) might be the resonant frequency of H2O but this is only a guess. Are you going to try and attempt to do the same thing?
jcndizo 3 years ago
The vibrational frequency of liquid water is 9 to 11 MHz
islander98110 3 years ago
when are you going to actually drive the car?? (are you scared to drive it?)
hye4life617 3 years ago
What are you talking about. I am driving the car. I have been driving the car. A am recording mileage.
Pay attention.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
How much difference dose a pwm make as opposed to no pwm, and how exactly dose it increase production - the mechanism, dose it make hho move from the ss quicker or dose it actually make the ss produce more hho gas. Hope my question makes sense to you, I understand what I mean... lol.
FormalScience 3 years ago
In most cases a PWM only makes it easier to regulate the average current going into a cell but does little to increase production efficiency over straight DC. At least that's been the finding of most people.
Tonight I just put the finishing touches on a new schematic diagram for a PWM that can sense and regulate current as well as vary freq and duty cycle. I have a number of data gathering tests to perform with this new device as soon as it's built.
This new design can also be used on cars.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
with the faster burn rate of HHO wouldn't the engine's timing need to be retarded to get the full benefit of it?
landtank 3 years ago
ZFF how much was the metal for your build? 316L is alot!!
AudiMoney 3 years ago
you were saying --''you're in the middle of a mileage .....test?'' what were the figures??
amen2233 3 years ago
I bought 3 air valves (honda) for 2.50.
Those should work just fine.
vanky66 3 years ago
No worries. I love your brain, so unless I can't watch you on youtube then we have no problems. I am female btw. Just in case you though I was male. I grew up in a mechanic shop, hence my interest. Thank you again for your invaluable information.
vanky66 3 years ago
You know, I have often wondered what the male/female split is among my fans. Glad you've joined us.
Z
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I was wondering if you have looked into the Stanley Meyer cell?. Is that even real?
vanky66 3 years ago
I have. It may be. But it's very difficult to replicate.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
well, to run even the smallest of piston engines, one would need that kind of gas production per second.... if not more....
IIIRotor 3 years ago
For optimum hydrogen combustion a O2:H2 ratio of 3:1 is required. 2L/min prodcution from your cell translates to 1.32L/min of hydrogen. It would be interesting to know the true oxygen intake into the engine.
islander98110 3 years ago
3.3.... we're not worthy...
Now that is bound to be making a dent into ones fuel consumption...
I'm rendering up a lamination version of your cell, it's a bit high tech as far as fabrication method goes, but then that's where things should go....
IIIRotor 3 years ago
I am dumbfounded by your workmanship. I am starting the work on this ASAP. I also think I love you. LOL
vanky66 3 years ago
Sorry. I'm already married. ;-)
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
You have the best cell so far. 2 liters a minute. Great work. I need to keep changing mine to get there. Thanks for sharing.
quehueveo 3 years ago
I've actually gotten a peak output of 3.3 LPM from this cell, SO FAR!
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I might have missed it so forgive me, But if a non return valve where to be installed in between the electrolizer and bubbler, should that not take care of the drinking problems.
IIIRotor 3 years ago
Yes actually, it would as long as there's a 2nd one to let air into the cell on cool-down placed before the one way valve to the bubbler. The only downside to this arrangement is you can never attach it to the intake manifold vacuum. Not that I would want to anyway but some might.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Hey Zero...excellent video presentation. You have been quite an inspiration to me in my designs. I'm looking forward to hearing the outcome of you mileage test. Hopefully when I'm done with my cell I can do the same. Keep up the awesome work.
SuperHydrogenMan 3 years ago
i have all my metal thanks to jeeper!!! I will start my build tomorrow... thanks to the info ZFF.
AudiMoney 3 years ago
I am new to this so I apologize if this is a dumb question. You have a blow out valve on the VSPB, but if you get a flash back or back fire from the vehicle will it not spark in the bubble first causing the bubbler to blow up?
haaser 3 years ago
That it exactly what the blow out valve is for. Accidential ignition of any kind.
survival0201 3 years ago
Yeah I know that the blow out valve is on the top of the VSPB, but should you also have a blow out valve on the bubbler or is that just over kill? I was just concerned that the bubbler would ignite and explode.
haaser 3 years ago
It's not overkill. I actually do have a blowout on the bubbler too in the form of a rubber stopper but I don't think it's adequate and I'm too chicken to test it. ;-)
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I just want to say. out of all the people posting video's on this subject, your presentation is the best. very scientific approach, good speaker, awesome data gathering skills. A++
guitarplayaDAVE 3 years ago
That's very kind. Thanks for watching!
Now go build something. ;-)
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
hey ZFF, im hoping you will let us know how many MPG you are getting now thank you
Morbian13 3 years ago
Of course.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Zero, I am a fan. I have been watching you from the beginning and just now have I gotten an account. I have a test request. Can you run a cell with the voltage from an ignition coil pulsing it some how? Maybe 2 coils alternating on a Mechanical Switch? While one is discharging one will be reloading. Just a question I have had.
hydojenk 3 years ago
Hi Z, Any problem using another check valve on the T-fitting instead of solenoid valve?
Just use another check valve in reverse.
I have it on mine, no issues. Simple too.
bennytan777 3 years ago
Hi Zero, it was suggest on a forum, to use oil pressure switch for a safety mecanism, that way, if you stall the vehicule or leave the ignition on, there won't be a formation of HHO. It's just a sharing of information, i tough it was a great idea, since every car has one, no motor run, no oil pressure, no HHO.
Tijean
Tijean1961 3 years ago
in the sense of sharing info, I would suggest using the fuel pump relay, most oil switches area varible voltage output now days, but the engine is only running is the fuel is on
mielectric1 3 years ago
mielectric1, what about an engine stall, will the fuel pump relay still be in running? Cause when i turn my ignition switch on, i can ear my fuel pump spinning and the engine is not even started yet!
Tijean1961 3 years ago
no, fuel pump relays are also switched by the fuel pressure sensor ie; ign on~relay on~fuel pump on~fuel pressure up to norm~relay off~ pump off~ fuel used/eng running/pressure drops below norm~relay on.i hope your pump is not constantly running with eng not running (could be a bad sensor,but then what do i know you already knew that). btw "HAIL ZERO"
skinnysim 3 years ago
Recommend some type of filter on the inlet of the solenoid to keep out dirt.
Kntryhart 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm thinking a small aquarium bubbler stone.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago