Jehovah's Witness "DefendingYHWH" Taken to TASK!

[NeedUpgrade]

The jw has really made the christans to know what they believe. With all this research necessary to prove the theology of christians, its amazing how smart one can get. Thanks to all jw for testing us, we would never be as smart as we are today and know our bible as well as we do today, if you hadn`t persecuted us :)

[NeedUpgrade]

@archeng123 can anyone prove the watchtower to be correct on this subject?

[rickxtreme]

Shalom(peace)

Times are shortening...no time for jokes..

Yahshua Ha Mashia is the true name of Meshias (Not jesus)

Yahwhe Tzebaoth is allmighty and he and Yahshua are the same Elohim(G-od)

There is not rapture, the church will not be taken off, Michael Archiangel will be.

The beast(Yahweh reprend him) will arise this next 2012

Yahashua Ha Mashiaj is the livin Torah and he is calling all remanent of Israel House in every nation an race.

keep the Torah

Shalom U Brajot (peace and blessings)

[TheScrewedGeneration]

I've had a short run in with defendingYHWH and he ran away after 2 days when he couldn't come up with a response to what I was presenting.

It's funny because defendingYHWH is a person who is not allowed to reason and he is trying to do just that, so this is what happens!!!

[IvanDefendingTruth]

Who is Jesus usurping the firstborn rights and inheritance from if he's not the real firstborn?

[Ni1234ckA]

EXCELLENT ARUGMENT IF TAKEN LTERALLY-KAIN WAS THE FIRSTBORN NOT JESUS

[TheSnarkyApologist]

@Ni1234ckA EXACTLY! Not many have truly understood that difference. Their is a definite process to being "born" and a secondary understanding of "born".

A human is born, but a nation is also born. But same process? NOPERS!

Was Jesus as the Word "born" in the same manner as Cain? NOPERS once again.

Jesus as the Word was "brought forth".

The Nation as well was "brought forth".

Important concept to grasp? YEPPERS! : )

[JesusTheMonotheist]

@TheSnarkyApologist Hey Mr. Sup it's a no brainer firstborn means the first that was born--first in the order of birth; eldest.

from prótos and tokos (childbirth, offspring); from tiktó

[TheSnarkyApologist]

@JesusTheMonotheist Greetings my friend. Well, if it's sooooo obvious, why are many that are NOT the eldest called the firstborn?

Go watch my 2 video's on Col. 1:15 and THEN we'll talk. You are truly missing much "accurate knowledge".

[JesusTheMonotheist]

@TheSnarkyApologist Shalom Bro. Lets stay in the passage and not go into a wild goose chase. He's the eldest son, the first to be born of every creature by nature he's a creation of the invisible God, who isn't a creation nor part of it, he alone is an immutable spirit undivided. The image is by nature a creation, offspring, who resembles the divine nature of the invisible God.

[DontTweakTheGreek]

If adding [other] doesn't change the meaning then JWs will happily cross it out in their NWTs???

[krstinmre]

Amen! Thanks sparky

[msm1876]

I've said this 1,000 times...if Paul was saying that Jesus was the first thing God created...why did it take over TWO HUNDRED YEARS when Arius came around for people to understand him?

[1914watcher]

I just want to hear DefendingYHWH say "I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggone it, people like me." hahaha

Great video!

[EastGateShut]

Didn't know defendingyhwh was still around.

[TheSnarkyApologist]

@EastGateShut I think he's gonna wish he wasn't...hahahahaha...

[Sheraseven]

Amazed and impressed right up until you say Paul is Jew of Jews...who wasn't born a Jew and had persecuted Jews and may or may not have met Jesus.

[THEBEREANZ]

@Sheraseven

Paul was a (Hebrew of Hebrews) and Pharisee of Pharisees (son of Pharisees) if you will, just read his letter to the Philippians...Philippians3:1-1­0, also check out Acts23:6.

That better?

[Sheraseven]

@THEBEREANZ Interesting to know. I guess I wasn't aware. I don't think he gave Jews a good name.

[Wyowanderer777]

Good work on handing Defending Wahoo his hiney. He needs to change his name to Defending the Watchtower...

[THEBEREANZ]

@Wyowanderer777

"Defending WT" lol,..Its what it is!!

It took TONS of humility to realize I was "had" by this false prophet in Brooklyn! Anyways, it came down to either accepting the words of Christ regarding False Prophets, or accepting the twisted teachings of the Watchtower. I chose to drop lifetime family and friends for Christ and the 'blinders' immediately fell away like scales!

THANK JESUS FOR YOUR SAVING GRACE!

[Dvader64909]

@THEBEREANZ Amen brother!

[Haukman66]

Wow brother, another brilliant teaching!! Keep up the great work!! God bless.

[TheSnarkyApologist]

@Haukman66 many thanks for the kind words and support bro ; )

[barbsinclair]

LOL now DefendingYHWH is pming me on other video's, still harping that firstborn applies to birth order, saying the time of Jesus birth is PRIOR to Gen 1:1.

Your right Bill, he IS BLINDED. Its insane and sad how JWs try to use Pro 8 to teach the god of the watchtower was without wisdom to create all things, so he created wisdom AN ANGEL to create all [other] things through! Only those blinded by the god of this world believes and defends that view! Its unholy and blasphemous words against God.

[muzzledchristians1]

ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC AMEN amen AMEN BE BLESSED SnarkyApologist

[TheSnarkyApologist]

@muzzledchristians1

With friends like you Andrew, I am always blessed!

[TheSnarkyApologist]

Just as an aside.....the last time I sent this video to DefendingYaHoo, he refused to post it! hahahah....

[pretoshohmoofc]

In the Jehovah's Witness greek NWT (that you can see on the Watchtower's Website) they were forced to remove πρωτεύω, prōteuō, preeminence, and replaced it with Proto. (First). Do you know why they were forced to do this?

Answer: Because Greek speaking greeks, READ GREEK!

[pretoshohmoofc]

In the Reasoning from Scriptures book under the chapter "Mary" it talks about Mary being called "theotokos." "God born". The same greek word that is being used in protoTOKOS. "First-Born." If tokos means created, there is no explanation why Greek speaking Trinitarians would EVER say that Mary created God. Mary delivered God INTO THIS WORLD, but Created? NO WAY!!!!

[dallywally72]

Keeping 'all things' in context with the bible, - Isaiah 44:24

Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF.

So, if Jesus was created, then created all (other) things as 'a god', with God, It turns God's word the inspired bible into a lie in the eyes of the Jehovah's Witness! So many other examples..Great video!

[dallywally72]

@dallywally72 Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Revelation 1:17-18 - And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

[barbsinclair]

Excellent video Bill!

Whenever a JW gets into their Pro ch8; Col ch1, preaching about their gods... the Holy Spirit within me stirs up blaspheme warnings on the JWs false gods accursed gospel.

JWs (defendingyhwh) actually preaches: their god was WITHOUT "wisdom and power", so he "created" it! LOL

Come on people, let us reason together! Only FOOLS are defending those god/s! For a wisdomless god is powerless, and cannot create a single thing:

= Isa ch40; Jer10:10-15; Mat3:1-3,11-13; Heb1:8-12.

[iamTOTALLYredeemed]

Colossians 1:18 makes it absolutely clear what vs.15 is speaking of:

And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, SO THAT in everything he might be preeminent.

Paul doesn't just πρωτότοκος and πρωτεύων interchangeably, he even equates the two!

[earnestlyseeking]

Amen!



[thehappyfreethinker]

Excellent video, thank you. The key thing for me here is that you can either let the scriptures interpret themselves, or you can let the watchtower interpret them. Which interpretation is the inspired one..?

[TheSnarkyApologist]

@thehappyfreethinker I guess that depends of if you ask a Christian or a follower of the Watchtower huh?

[Templehatchet]

@thehappyfreethinker I will make it easy for you. None!

[thehappyfreethinker]

@Templehatchet haha, touché!