I won't be forced to pay for my health insurance through a private corporation. I'm just going to pay the fine. Real reform requires the disassembling of all private health insurance. I should be able to pay a doctor as I would a public utility. So no, I am not happy with this health care bill. We need single payer (period).
As Marx said, capitalism leads to the development of socialism. We are already socialist and have been for well over the past century. There is no going back. The markets will not allow it. The conversation should be about what kind of socialism do you want? Right now we have a petty-bourgeois Socialism. It makes no difference to me. Continue your dissent it only quickens the process. I would just hope you would reflect on what you are protesting. Either way we have no choice, we are engaged.
@takeahnase2009 yes, by we you probably mean you. And there's definitely engagement between your head and your ass. I've read Das Kapital and somehow I managed to not be fucking fooled into being a moron. Can you even think anymore outside of shit you learned in social science courses at your crummy local college? Couldn't like go back and get a real degree or something? Or maybe learn something real, like physics or chemistry?
Anything that right-wing tea bag extremists are against I am for even if I do not agree with it. You are patriots in name only. Your idea of freedom is maintaining the status quo. Your revolution to drag America into the dark ages will fail. This country was built on ideals from the Enlightenment and of science and its progress will continue until everyone has freedom and equality. Step aside if you do not want to join the 21st century and join the rest of the human race.
Yep. You are protesting to maintain the status quo and you don't even know it. I suspect there are many tea baggers like you that do not realize that. Most of your protests are sponsored by Freedom Works, an organization that defends "corporate personhood" and advocates for the low wages for workers. They use uninformed people like you to oppose corporate regulation so the worker can continue to get screwed in the market place. A perfectly evil plan.
You have a really warped idea of tea party people. These people are the salt of the earth and nobody pays them to rally. They are not representing corporations in any way. They are there for themselves and for all of our liberty.
The status quo is not so bad sometimes.
I believe that health care has it's problems, but that top down authoritarian health care will be a total clusterfuck.
When did Marxism ever achieve a better world? You know the answer - NEVER.
Socialism is the antithesis of freedom and equality. That is the lie of it. The so called "PEOPLES" republic of China is anything but a government run for the benefit of the people.
The beautiful utopian dream of Socialism is just a lie. There is no socialist country ever in history that was a better place to live than our USA. Socialism equals slavery.
Well it is good to see the left are still clueless. One part of me wishes they would actually get what the tyrants are promising. starvation, forced to work, abuse.
It worked great under Mao, Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Hussein.
Thanks for posting! I wonder if anyone saw this on the mainstream news today? December18th is a big day for not only Healthcare Reform but also for the Global Climate/Cap and Trade Treaty.Protest both now.
80% of all Americans are satisfied w/ their (chosen) health care. 63% of all Americans DONT want it touched.
But, 80% of Americans were against Stimulus & Omnibus too.
The govt is out of control spendding.
The EPA is even threatening economic policy saying it will enforce cap & trade. As is the FCC, who is pushing for "a broadband for all" policy--checj out their twitter account @FCC.
Our government is OUT OF CONTROL. We need to get back under control They are stuffing a BILL down the peoples throats that the majority does not want. YOU NO LONGER HAVE OUR CONSENT!!! KILL THE BILL...
Attempting to "minimize" our government is impossible. Fighting a battle that in all reality will not be won. Our government will grow larger, our only real hope for "reform" is our government getting so big it explodes. Instead of rallying against socialized health-care and supporting our current corporatist system of health-care maybe rally for a real free market solution. I know a real free market solution isn't possible with the government in power. "Battle that can't be won."
Next time everyone should bring guns with them. That would perhaps get the attention of congress, and the white house. Atleast the media whould cover the event if for no other reason to condem the protesters.
Kill the Bill!
operawannabe 1 year ago
I won't be forced to pay for my health insurance through a private corporation. I'm just going to pay the fine. Real reform requires the disassembling of all private health insurance. I should be able to pay a doctor as I would a public utility. So no, I am not happy with this health care bill. We need single payer (period).
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
If obamacare is enacted, will you comply?
mackler 2 years ago
we can only hope it isnt passed
corydelong 2 years ago
@mackler for some thats a tough question, just living their normal life as law abiding citizens could cost them a $25,000 fine plus a year in jail..
novapj 2 years ago
Engaged in mindlessness does not count.
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
tjm8787: Explain to me how Marx is wrong. Let me see what you think you know.
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
As Marx said, capitalism leads to the development of socialism. We are already socialist and have been for well over the past century. There is no going back. The markets will not allow it. The conversation should be about what kind of socialism do you want? Right now we have a petty-bourgeois Socialism. It makes no difference to me. Continue your dissent it only quickens the process. I would just hope you would reflect on what you are protesting. Either way we have no choice, we are engaged.
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
@takeahnase2009 yes, by we you probably mean you. And there's definitely engagement between your head and your ass. I've read Das Kapital and somehow I managed to not be fucking fooled into being a moron. Can you even think anymore outside of shit you learned in social science courses at your crummy local college? Couldn't like go back and get a real degree or something? Or maybe learn something real, like physics or chemistry?
interestingperson121 1 year ago
If I were a libertarian I'd be pretty pissed off at the Republican conservo-nazis trying to co-opt Ron Paul's movement and platform.
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
Anything that right-wing tea bag extremists are against I am for even if I do not agree with it. You are patriots in name only. Your idea of freedom is maintaining the status quo. Your revolution to drag America into the dark ages will fail. This country was built on ideals from the Enlightenment and of science and its progress will continue until everyone has freedom and equality. Step aside if you do not want to join the 21st century and join the rest of the human race.
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
yeah we are really happy with the status quo, thats why we are out protesting
corydelong 2 years ago
Yep. You are protesting to maintain the status quo and you don't even know it. I suspect there are many tea baggers like you that do not realize that. Most of your protests are sponsored by Freedom Works, an organization that defends "corporate personhood" and advocates for the low wages for workers. They use uninformed people like you to oppose corporate regulation so the worker can continue to get screwed in the market place. A perfectly evil plan.
takeahnase2009 2 years ago
@takeahnase2009
You have a really warped idea of tea party people. These people are the salt of the earth and nobody pays them to rally. They are not representing corporations in any way. They are there for themselves and for all of our liberty.
The status quo is not so bad sometimes.
I believe that health care has it's problems, but that top down authoritarian health care will be a total clusterfuck.
When did Marxism ever achieve a better world? You know the answer - NEVER.
averagejoe040 2 years ago
@takeahnase2009
Socialism is the antithesis of freedom and equality. That is the lie of it. The so called "PEOPLES" republic of China is anything but a government run for the benefit of the people.
The beautiful utopian dream of Socialism is just a lie. There is no socialist country ever in history that was a better place to live than our USA. Socialism equals slavery.
averagejoe040 2 years ago
Well it is good to see the left are still clueless. One part of me wishes they would actually get what the tyrants are promising. starvation, forced to work, abuse.
It worked great under Mao, Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Hussein.
ny1t 2 years ago
"Old irrational Christians"
Sounds like the people that created this country.
joeevil 2 years ago
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Looks like a bunch of white, old irrational Christians to me.
pardy12 2 years ago
Is it just me or did everyone get only two related videos for this one? PS they were both obama talking about healthcare. posted by the whitehouse.
moeyanger 2 years ago
@moeyanger
I did as well. Seems pretty suspicious.
xtreme1002003 2 years ago
DO NOT trust Bachmann!
She is for unjust wars that are not declared.
She is hijacking the libertarian/constition movement!
seniordiscount 2 years ago
Thanks for posting! I wonder if anyone saw this on the mainstream news today? December18th is a big day for not only Healthcare Reform but also for the Global Climate/Cap and Trade Treaty.Protest both now.
heyjenknee 2 years ago 11
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this whole heath care debate is getting really gay who knew that when given a choice between life and money ppl would money
kainniak1 2 years ago
80% of all Americans are satisfied w/ their (chosen) health care. 63% of all Americans DONT want it touched.
But, 80% of Americans were against Stimulus & Omnibus too.
The govt is out of control spendding.
The EPA is even threatening economic policy saying it will enforce cap & trade. As is the FCC, who is pushing for "a broadband for all" policy--checj out their twitter account @FCC.
Time to put a boot straight in DC's butt!
Vote Conservative or lose American Independence!
swiftyread 2 years ago 14
Thank you, Laura!!! Yes, it is absolutely horrendous the powers the HHS Secretary is given in this bill! Control like you would not believe.
aynrand4freedom 2 years ago 7
VOTE for the RIGHT people in 2010.
3martijns 2 years ago 11
Our government is OUT OF CONTROL. We need to get back under control They are stuffing a BILL down the peoples throats that the majority does not want. YOU NO LONGER HAVE OUR CONSENT!!! KILL THE BILL...
cstcomputers 2 years ago 9
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I'm not seeing any bureaucrashing, what gives?
elephantpuke 2 years ago
Obama likes to make bad jokes about the special Olympics too.
warman58 2 years ago 6
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Looks like the special olympics.
balddove 2 years ago
From a lifelong Canadian:
SAY NO TO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AMERICA
fuggsakes 2 years ago 11
God bless
Spazzboy911 2 years ago 7
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Don't you love watching a bunch of warmongers speak out against the government? George Orwell would be amazed.
capitalist4life 2 years ago
Why do they let these incumbent politicians allow themselves to get in front of this movement?
Throw all the bums out.
Don't let them take advantage of our movement.
freesk8 2 years ago 2
Attempting to "minimize" our government is impossible. Fighting a battle that in all reality will not be won. Our government will grow larger, our only real hope for "reform" is our government getting so big it explodes. Instead of rallying against socialized health-care and supporting our current corporatist system of health-care maybe rally for a real free market solution. I know a real free market solution isn't possible with the government in power. "Battle that can't be won."
pink3y 2 years ago
Well...YOU guys don't have people to dress up as the Four Horsemen of the apocalypse like the Copenhagen rally.
Obviously you have nothing to say...
bloodrunsclear 2 years ago
why do you dress like socialists?
Ilikenuman 2 years ago
@Ilikenuman Camouflage.
bloodrunsclear 2 years ago
They would be dressed in drab grey attire if they were dressed like socialists.
oilhammer04 2 years ago 3
Next time everyone should bring guns with them. That would perhaps get the attention of congress, and the white house. Atleast the media whould cover the event if for no other reason to condem the protesters.
UtherPendragan 2 years ago 2
Good job! Keep up the good fight!
They have an idea on how many people were at this rally?
Tatsit69 2 years ago 4