I did not get paid from Robinson for this video. I did receive some good pricing on two spare gas tubes and got some techinical questions answered prior to doing the tests. I could have edited the video to make it "look" better but wanted to give the good and the bad. If no one learns anything else but to make sure to latch the take down, I'll be happy. Easy to check and easy to fix.
these are all conditions a quality AR would survive with no issue. Idk why you guys are looking for a piston gun that simulates an AR, if you want AK reliability then get an AK. AR covers most other bases and has been made very reliable over time, it wouldnt be used if it wasn't.
Props for the honest review, most guys would bury the video and tell everyone their 1000$+ rifle is the best in the world
After watching this it makes me not want to get this rifle but I know as a shooter and doing what you do that I wont be in these conditions for the rifle to fail as it is in your video.
Wow, epic Fail. "ok, let's see what happens...click" yer dead. I own an XCR and that vid makes me want to sell it. It did make me appreciate the hell out of my Galil however. The Alaska State Patrol torture test was more severe than this and the Galil passed with "0" malfunctions.
Respect! A true test .ive been wanting to see a test like this be done to luxury name rifles. None of that sprinkle some fairy dust,dip in 1gallon holy water,lather some spa facial mud on the exterior bs.
I absolutely am displeased with this rifle, why did the upper seperate when you fired it, and the mud test was extreme, i would expect a supurb quality piston rifle to survive it like a g36, acr and maybe the mr556
if i owned robinson arms, i would pay this guy to immediately take this video off of youtube. it has definately caused people to choose a different firearm...like me! i went with a krebs AK instead because of this video.
Thanks for the honest review.....I'm constantly reading how the XCR is just a hobby gun and this is just more evidence...user error or not, its a gun that fails if u dont go over it with a fine tooth comb. Not combat ready. BTW: just about any piston gun would have passed this test with flying colors...Even an AR woulda passed all but the water test....The Sig 556 gets horrible PR for good reasons but reliability isnt one of them (mainly furniture etc.) Thanks again for showing the truth!!!
OK number 1... you're a jack ass. how the hell did you ever become a "rifle instructor" when you can't even fire a weapon without it coming apart?! number 2... if indeed it is strictly user error witch i believe it to be than you sir, the user are an incompetent and downright stupid s.o.b. invest in a heavy club, gomer.
Keep in mind the issue with the sand test was my fault and not a result of the design of the gun. I mixed and matched lowers and did not ensure that the retention pin fully seated in the lower. After the problem was found and the pin correctly seated, the receiveres did not seperate. Since this test, all of my uppers and lowers swap with no problems. Correctly seating the takedown pin is covered in the manual and I did not do my part as the user. The XCR is built like a tank and I trust it.
@SugarFreeTargets also he puts a round in the chamber to block the sand and never covers the muzzle with sand, i agree with your comment to.. i would of never squeezed that trigger a second time!
Damn that mud was nasty! Looks like it worked fine up until that test. Don't think many weapons would work passed that except for an AK maybe? Thanks for the video.
Dude, when a rifle jams/malfunctions 7 times in a "torture test," I wouldn't post that video. Seein how the ACR is unjammable, I don't know why you love a gun that would get you killed in battle. One jam is all it takes and you're dead. And for $1700, I could get a Bushmaster M4 which is ten times more reliable. This torture test was too much for this pathetic rifle.
You do realize that 90% of the malfunctions in this video are due to user error, and not the rifle? And calling the ACR unjammable is an gross logical fallacy.
Learn about guns before you spout your CoDshit, moron.
@niksknicks You said "And for $1700, I could get a Bushmaster M4 which is ten times more reliable." Are they that expensive now? Anyway, please get one and repeat this test and post the vid, thanks.
I love the XCR also. The only thing I hate about it is that dang rear take down lever. They should have designed it with a captured pin like an AR. The upper coming off the lower would never be a problem on an AR. Personal gear can bump that dang lever and cause the gun to come apart right in the middle of a fight. If the is a way to have a captured pin installed I'd probably buy an XCR next.
Sorry don't mean to be disrespectful but...HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.....gonna see if we can blow this thing up up...BAM 1st shot !.....That sir is a job well executed ! I did read that it was not fully reassembled, it just made me laugh. Sorry ;)
should have bought an AK-47........they really do not fail.......everytime your gun failed bullets could be firing at you...... life or death never leave your AK-47 behind!
if you ask me the way this gun opens up is probably the only flaw but a major one non the less. there needs to be a retaining pin like most other guns.
It is a mini upper with a full size barrel, commonly referred to as the SF configuration. While it doesn't safe a whole lot of weight, it takes it off the front of the gun and moves the center of balance rear ward. Some like the look of the exposed gas tube and some don't. I don't mind the look, kinda Galil like, but did it to improve the handling.
What kind of bad guys are you running into out there that you regularly out there that you've had HKs, FALs, Galils and an XCR to deal with? Or you just like switching up your patrol rifle periodically?
In the early days of our patrol rifle program we had to provide our own rifles. I got a chance to carry several difference personal guns until I found the one with the best set of features for me, the XCR.
Thank you for posting this review. this was way more entertaining than mythbusters :) after watching this I will never, ever EVER look at getting one of these guns... I'll give you credit though. I could tell in the intro how proud you were of that gun, and you STILL posted this video after it failed so many times. Thanks again for the review
Thank you for posting this review. this was way more entertaining than mythbusters :) after watching this I will never, ever EVER look at getting one of these guns... I'll give you credit though. I could tell in the intro how proud you were of that gun, and you STILL posted this video after it failed so many times. Thanks again for the review
OMG!!!! I have never seen so many stoppages in a single weapon ever before. And when u think that this weapon was marketed as being just as reliable as an AK-47 & that it would be the M-16/M-4 replacement.... I mean, the M-16/M-4 r defeinitely not the most reliable assault rifles out there, but this weapon's jamming rate is simply embarrassing! I've never seen anything like this before!
Hahaha! reliability test, indeeeed.... I thought this weapons was marketed as being as reliable as the AK-47... It's not even a quarter as reliable as an AK-47. The HK-416 also did much better at the sand and water test. When the guy that hosts the Future Weapons show tested the HK-416 under sand and water conditions, the gun performed flawlessly. This gun gun is, on the other hand jammed like hell. It's not what it was marketed 2 be.
It was user error. I put together an upper and lower that had never been together and did not seat the rear takedown pin fully. Once I figured it out, I did not have any more problems as shown in the second sand test. When I looked over the manual again, it even mentions making sure the rear pin is seated fully, so totally my bad. I didn't want to use my folder and have to try and get all of the mud and grit out of the foam tube.
anteracmacash watch part 2 for the answer to that, he field stripped the rifle and found that the lower was not put together 100%, this was the reason it was releasing, the sand test gets repeated in part 2 after its reassembled
he reassembled the gun in the exactly way as in part 2...so there'e no difference in assembly...it's a very simple gun working on the principle of the AK and there's not mutch left to assemble in a wrong way...looks a lot more like a design mistake
Look at 6:00 of part two and on, he states "I think that was the problem, the 2 parts were not going together and I was not getting the take down latch fully seated"...what more is there to understand than that?, when he got the latch seated correctly, it did not pop open.
I would say no better, no worse. If both platforms are running the same profile barrel and the same ammo, then the accuracy should be the same based on my experience. I have passed sniper quals with my heavy barrel XCR using wolf ammo! on several occassions.
The opening was a mistake on my part. I put an upper on a lower for the first time and ran the test. I did not check to see if they were locked together (they weren't) and it popped open. After I learned of my problem, I found that it is covered in the manual to make sure that the rear take down is seated. In 3 years of using the platform, I never knew to check it. If it is a factory gun, you will never have to worry about it, but if you swap lowers and uppers make sure you check the latch.
I have carried many platforms for duty in 11 years and the XCR is the only personally owned platform I would have tried these tests with. I like it so much that I have three of them now. As for the mud test, the mud used was extremely thick and I don't know if it was reasonable to expect it to do as well as it did. The other thing I loved was how easy it was to clear. Imagine trying to clear an AR jammed in the same way!!!
Doesn't look to hot with the Mud test. I wonder if the H&K will perform the same under this condition. I like the water test and the sand test. The mud test hurt my feeling because it fire one round and jam, but I think I still want to get it.
I did not get paid from Robinson for this video. I did receive some good pricing on two spare gas tubes and got some techinical questions answered prior to doing the tests. I could have edited the video to make it "look" better but wanted to give the good and the bad. If no one learns anything else but to make sure to latch the take down, I'll be happy. Easy to check and easy to fix.
Martens813 1 week ago
Sgt., I have one question.
Did you get paid by Robinson Arms or any other organization for making this film?
Thank you for taking the time to think about my question and responding.
Search4diabetescure 1 week ago
LWRC all the way, war ready gun
crf50hugo 4 weeks ago
these are all conditions a quality AR would survive with no issue. Idk why you guys are looking for a piston gun that simulates an AR, if you want AK reliability then get an AK. AR covers most other bases and has been made very reliable over time, it wouldnt be used if it wasn't.
Props for the honest review, most guys would bury the video and tell everyone their 1000$+ rifle is the best in the world
krossF 1 month ago
After watching this it makes me not want to get this rifle but I know as a shooter and doing what you do that I wont be in these conditions for the rifle to fail as it is in your video.
xLAWx3NF0RC3Rx 1 month ago
FAIL
SteveJanes704 1 month ago
great video , nice to see how honest you are. very reliable rifle, don't think you'll ever get that much gunk in it as a police officer.
Homehous 1 month ago
OK, Lets seeee what happens.
jah2mail 2 months ago
fucking hell this is $2400 in canada. I wouldn't be throwing this thing in anything but a velvet case =)
letterpool 2 months ago
Wow, epic Fail. "ok, let's see what happens...click" yer dead. I own an XCR and that vid makes me want to sell it. It did make me appreciate the hell out of my Galil however. The Alaska State Patrol torture test was more severe than this and the Galil passed with "0" malfunctions.
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Respect! A true test .ive been wanting to see a test like this be done to luxury name rifles. None of that sprinkle some fairy dust,dip in 1gallon holy water,lather some spa facial mud on the exterior bs.
justbcuzimbigger 2 months ago
lucky me i didnt buy the xcr. got a sl8 instead
Jason113EVO 2 months ago
I absolutely am displeased with this rifle, why did the upper seperate when you fired it, and the mud test was extreme, i would expect a supurb quality piston rifle to survive it like a g36, acr and maybe the mr556
TheCivilianSoldier 2 months ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
dollibee609 3 months ago
i love my G36 ;):)
AirsoftFinnsch 4 months ago
Any gun exposed to this kind of abuse can and probably fail... Including the AK.
Here's a novel Idea, try to keep the weapon reasonably clean and you won't have to be so concerned with fatal malfunctions.
pwchesser 4 months ago
because of this video not ganna buy this XCR suck
yuancg 4 months ago
if i owned robinson arms, i would pay this guy to immediately take this video off of youtube. it has definately caused people to choose a different firearm...like me! i went with a krebs AK instead because of this video.
chadius6061 5 months ago 3
And that is why the M4 has a dust cover!
ryadnort 5 months ago
In Soviet Russia rifles dont jam ..
MrLongbranch303 5 months ago 2
s,o in severe conditions, dont use an XCR.
jimmymc1234 5 months ago
Malmsteen for the intro??
DropC09 5 months ago
Im so much of a super-cop that I wear my badge even during my youtube vids...(and i still can't put a rifle together properly)
waffenmacht 5 months ago
It looks like it would make a decent range rifle but one shitty battle rifle
pickinthatbanjo 5 months ago
That gun isn't worth the bucket of the guy pored on the gun an ak 47 wouldn't have thought about jamming up and would have kept firing all day long
TheDawg13579 6 months ago
that sand test proves that it sucks
carlos92azevedo 6 months ago
@carlos92azevedo If you read his comment, you would have seen that it was his fault because he didn't check that the retention pin sat properly.
SniperAngle12 5 months ago
Пиздец)) Земля в пакетике, грязь в ведре))
superderedevil 6 months ago
Crap gun....
Flackerr 7 months ago
pop goes the weasel.
lansmart 7 months ago
Thanks for the honest review.....I'm constantly reading how the XCR is just a hobby gun and this is just more evidence...user error or not, its a gun that fails if u dont go over it with a fine tooth comb. Not combat ready. BTW: just about any piston gun would have passed this test with flying colors...Even an AR woulda passed all but the water test....The Sig 556 gets horrible PR for good reasons but reliability isnt one of them (mainly furniture etc.) Thanks again for showing the truth!!!
dirtyboy3364 7 months ago
During the mud test was the gas setting on 4? Was the malfunctions from the carrier not moving to the rear fully or was it from the extractor?
I have seen a M14, AK 47/74, FAL and AR fail because of mud.
FCDRIFTER 8 months ago
wow epic fail. sure it may be nice to shoot, however that thing is not combat worthy at all. Nothing should go wrong if that was a good gun.
overly101 8 months ago
what optics do u have on ur XCR sir?
Jaywasaki 9 months ago
Try an Arsenal SGL21-61 or SGL31-61. They are the most reliable assault weapons (in my opinion) that you can get for law enforcement in the U.S.
ELITEWAFFLES9 10 months ago
OK number 1... you're a jack ass. how the hell did you ever become a "rifle instructor" when you can't even fire a weapon without it coming apart?! number 2... if indeed it is strictly user error witch i believe it to be than you sir, the user are an incompetent and downright stupid s.o.b. invest in a heavy club, gomer.
TheCharredswine 11 months ago
I DONT KNOW WHY BUT I WANT TO PUNCH THIS DUDE IN THE FACE PRETTY BAD.
MegaMooseballs 11 months ago
Nice test... But I'll stick to my krebs AK
djpx49 11 months ago 5
And lets see what happens? fail
And lets see what happens? fail
And lets see what happens? fail
And lets see what happens? fail
brinbois 1 year ago 18
I would be so scared to shoot that in the mud on that after what just happend in the sand test.
SugarFreeTargets 1 year ago
Keep in mind the issue with the sand test was my fault and not a result of the design of the gun. I mixed and matched lowers and did not ensure that the retention pin fully seated in the lower. After the problem was found and the pin correctly seated, the receiveres did not seperate. Since this test, all of my uppers and lowers swap with no problems. Correctly seating the takedown pin is covered in the manual and I did not do my part as the user. The XCR is built like a tank and I trust it.
Martens813 1 year ago
@SugarFreeTargets also he puts a round in the chamber to block the sand and never covers the muzzle with sand, i agree with your comment to.. i would of never squeezed that trigger a second time!
shinnecockwarrior 8 months ago
Total FAIL, I'm sorry...Great rifle for an American...
Frankfritz 1 year ago
@Frankfritz what are you gettin at limey?
SteezySteez2011 10 months ago
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHH SAND TEST FAIL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NOOOOOB
navyteccs 1 year ago
id stick with a ak or bushmaster acr despite the 2369.00$ price tag i wont have one in the next 5 years...
Armedforceslover 1 year ago
that mud gave it hell
sxcranger 1 year ago
and let's see what happens
JoelRogue 1 year ago
What makes you think you rate to wear my uniform?
2111devildog 1 year ago
Steyr AUG A3 FTW.
And watch the CoD nerds swarm saying there isn't an A3...
darthgarfield 1 year ago
Our tax money at work ;)
I'm actually not sure about that..
TEHLEGITGUY 1 year ago
Mud looks like poop as if he scooped some mess out from the toilet bowl or from the pasture and poured it on the rifle.
FishEaster 1 year ago
I remember my barrel launching piece of shit m96. Cool looking weapon, inaccurate as hell and waste of money,
mrclean4hire 1 year ago
@mrclean4hire
NO its not Ive owned one for 2 years and is accurate a poor shot always blames his tools
SVEJENASE13 1 year ago
Damn that mud was nasty! Looks like it worked fine up until that test. Don't think many weapons would work passed that except for an AK maybe? Thanks for the video.
rltw04 1 year ago
WTF! So far so good...na come on!
brbm2 1 year ago
Lol the time the gun was covered port side and was shot, the shell almost hit the camera man haha.
DEANaLEAN 1 year ago
Dude, when a rifle jams/malfunctions 7 times in a "torture test," I wouldn't post that video. Seein how the ACR is unjammable, I don't know why you love a gun that would get you killed in battle. One jam is all it takes and you're dead. And for $1700, I could get a Bushmaster M4 which is ten times more reliable. This torture test was too much for this pathetic rifle.
niksknicks 1 year ago
@niksknicks
This posts hurts my brain.
You do realize that 90% of the malfunctions in this video are due to user error, and not the rifle? And calling the ACR unjammable is an gross logical fallacy.
Learn about guns before you spout your CoDshit, moron.
Alex4757 1 year ago 2
@niksknicks You said "And for $1700, I could get a Bushmaster M4 which is ten times more reliable." Are they that expensive now? Anyway, please get one and repeat this test and post the vid, thanks.
dmzd 1 year ago
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niksknicks 1 year ago
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niksknicks 1 year ago
let's seeeee what happens
adismo22 1 year ago
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i wouldt rely on that at war..thanks 4 showing what NOT to buy..tom retired usmc
tommyguns4941 1 year ago
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i wouldt rely on that at war..thanks 4 showing what NOT to buy..
tommyguns4941 1 year ago
i wouldt rely on it at war, thanks 4 showing what NOT to buy...tom retired usmc
tommyguns4941 1 year ago
@tommyguns4941 thank God someone else can see the obvious... this gun is unreliable
niksknicks 1 year ago
Hay,I will keep my ar i know what to do and not to do with it, yeah keep it clean
1coldaxe 1 year ago
I love the XCR also. The only thing I hate about it is that dang rear take down lever. They should have designed it with a captured pin like an AR. The upper coming off the lower would never be a problem on an AR. Personal gear can bump that dang lever and cause the gun to come apart right in the middle of a fight. If the is a way to have a captured pin installed I'd probably buy an XCR next.
mixflip 1 year ago
hey! martin whats happend?? its look like jumming ha!?
03BUOOO264 1 year ago
Sorry don't mean to be disrespectful but...HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.....gonna see if we can blow this thing up up...BAM 1st shot !.....That sir is a job well executed ! I did read that it was not fully reassembled, it just made me laugh. Sorry ;)
smyers820gm 1 year ago
The awesomeness that is the Heckler and Koch 416
uanmex 1 year ago
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Thanks for the video. I would NOT buy this gun based off your video.
A Cheap Chinese AK47 made by a child peasent famer is better...
XCR looks nice, thats about it.
uanmex 1 year ago
i would not buy this guy based off this video
icypony1 1 year ago
should have bought an AK-47........they really do not fail.......everytime your gun failed bullets could be firing at you...... life or death never leave your AK-47 behind!
JDBrotz 1 year ago
if you ask me the way this gun opens up is probably the only flaw but a major one non the less. there needs to be a retaining pin like most other guns.
joeratti 1 year ago
HAHAHAHHAHAH 2:19!!!!!
IamFreeRu 1 year ago
Is that a mini upper? I like the look of that, its nice to see it actually in use and not just a static image
MarineWMU911 1 year ago
It is a mini upper with a full size barrel, commonly referred to as the SF configuration. While it doesn't safe a whole lot of weight, it takes it off the front of the gun and moves the center of balance rear ward. Some like the look of the exposed gas tube and some don't. I don't mind the look, kinda Galil like, but did it to improve the handling.
Martens813 1 year ago
@Martens813 I was told by sales that they though it looked dumb, id have to disagree. SF config wins in my book.. I'll own one eventually
MarineWMU911 1 year ago
What kind of bad guys are you running into out there that you regularly out there that you've had HKs, FALs, Galils and an XCR to deal with? Or you just like switching up your patrol rifle periodically?
1Maccabee 1 year ago
In the early days of our patrol rifle program we had to provide our own rifles. I got a chance to carry several difference personal guns until I found the one with the best set of features for me, the XCR.
Martens813 1 year ago
I'm just not feeling it.
TheMisfit621 1 year ago
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Thank you for posting this review. this was way more entertaining than mythbusters :) after watching this I will never, ever EVER look at getting one of these guns... I'll give you credit though. I could tell in the intro how proud you were of that gun, and you STILL posted this video after it failed so many times. Thanks again for the review
semisi2uh 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this review. this was way more entertaining than mythbusters :) after watching this I will never, ever EVER look at getting one of these guns... I'll give you credit though. I could tell in the intro how proud you were of that gun, and you STILL posted this video after it failed so many times. Thanks again for the review
semisi2uh 1 year ago
@semisi2uh If you watch the second part you will see that the weapon was not put together properly by the poster.
Kringus 1 year ago
@semisi2uh LOL, you are right... have to give him credit for that..
what a piece of $hit gun.
too bad, it looks nice.
uanmex 1 year ago
OMG!!!! I have never seen so many stoppages in a single weapon ever before. And when u think that this weapon was marketed as being just as reliable as an AK-47 & that it would be the M-16/M-4 replacement.... I mean, the M-16/M-4 r defeinitely not the most reliable assault rifles out there, but this weapon's jamming rate is simply embarrassing! I've never seen anything like this before!
StiviGun1 1 year ago
Hahaha! reliability test, indeeeed.... I thought this weapons was marketed as being as reliable as the AK-47... It's not even a quarter as reliable as an AK-47. The HK-416 also did much better at the sand and water test. When the guy that hosts the Future Weapons show tested the HK-416 under sand and water conditions, the gun performed flawlessly. This gun gun is, on the other hand jammed like hell. It's not what it was marketed 2 be.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
if hes a policeman, y is he wearing a marpat marine corps uniform? weird, huh?
ThePhamine 2 years ago
...great test. Great vid'. :)
Banyuaigo 2 years ago
so why did the receiver pop open in the first test? was it user error or a failure of the weapon?
Spade117 2 years ago
It was user error. I put together an upper and lower that had never been together and did not seat the rear takedown pin fully. Once I figured it out, I did not have any more problems as shown in the second sand test. When I looked over the manual again, it even mentions making sure the rear pin is seated fully, so totally my bad. I didn't want to use my folder and have to try and get all of the mud and grit out of the foam tube.
Martens813 1 year ago
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necro1234yahoo 2 years ago
cover the barrel the I'll be impressed...
and what's with the gun brakeing apart at 2:28 ???
anteracmacash 2 years ago
anteracmacash watch part 2 for the answer to that, he field stripped the rifle and found that the lower was not put together 100%, this was the reason it was releasing, the sand test gets repeated in part 2 after its reassembled
necro1234yahoo 2 years ago
he reassembled the gun in the exactly way as in part 2...so there'e no difference in assembly...it's a very simple gun working on the principle of the AK and there's not mutch left to assemble in a wrong way...looks a lot more like a design mistake
anteracmacash 2 years ago
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Look at 6:00 of part two and on, he states "I think that was the problem, the 2 parts were not going together and I was not getting the take down latch fully seated"...what more is there to understand than that?, when he got the latch seated correctly, it did not pop open.
necro1234yahoo 2 years ago
4:57 Getting all the water out of it? :P
ECTBWHO 2 years ago
: )
ECTBWHO 2 years ago
How's the accuracy compare to the AR?
drbun 2 years ago
I would say no better, no worse. If both platforms are running the same profile barrel and the same ammo, then the accuracy should be the same based on my experience. I have passed sniper quals with my heavy barrel XCR using wolf ammo! on several occassions.
Martens813 2 years ago
awesome!
drbun 2 years ago
@Martens813 ohh man.. when you coverd the gun with mud i shouted ohhh shit i felt bad for the gun... but nice video any ways
xxthehuskycaboosexx 2 years ago
Wow what the hell was with the sand test and it opening up????
letterpool 2 years ago
The opening was a mistake on my part. I put an upper on a lower for the first time and ran the test. I did not check to see if they were locked together (they weren't) and it popped open. After I learned of my problem, I found that it is covered in the manual to make sure that the rear take down is seated. In 3 years of using the platform, I never knew to check it. If it is a factory gun, you will never have to worry about it, but if you swap lowers and uppers make sure you check the latch.
Martens813 2 years ago
Yeah sorry I posted this before watching part 2 where you explained what happened thx again for making these XCR vids.
letterpool 2 years ago
I have carried many platforms for duty in 11 years and the XCR is the only personally owned platform I would have tried these tests with. I like it so much that I have three of them now. As for the mud test, the mud used was extremely thick and I don't know if it was reasonable to expect it to do as well as it did. The other thing I loved was how easy it was to clear. Imagine trying to clear an AR jammed in the same way!!!
Martens813 2 years ago
Doesn't look to hot with the Mud test. I wonder if the H&K will perform the same under this condition. I like the water test and the sand test. The mud test hurt my feeling because it fire one round and jam, but I think I still want to get it.
drbun 2 years ago