what was going on ? aghayev without power, without speed, slipping away.. normally he's exploding but this was just lame. he must have been tired from fights before.. this is absolutely not like him.
For those who don't know, this is no ordinary Italins..he got the 2nd place after Rafa in world champion before and he is one of the most annoying fighters ou can ever face..his Kizami is sooo fast and he is so difficult to catch..
Worst Kumite match i've ever seen, if i was judging neither competitor would have scored a point. very disapointed. this match makes me feel even more like joining Kyokushin. i expect more from Elite Sports Karate. i like to think of the WKF as about the tip-tap-point-stop Karate everyone complains about. maybe european sport karate has become like european judo like my judo friends say, everything is about the points.
I hate to say this, but aghayev behaves like a drama-queen, in fact, he always has. never thought much of him as a kumite-phenomenon. he's hust a master of deceiving rather than a full-blown kumite animal. he's good alright, but so are 10,000 others out there. but none of them play chess: they just do karate. and follow the real "do". Osu.
i think those 2 scores awarded the italian were not clear cut scores. the 1st one did not really make impact. i think it was abt 4 inches from rafael's face and the 2nd one was also not in very good form. it should have been a draw and then after that 1 minute extra round. anyways i guess dats just how the game goes sometimes.
luigi busa es muy rapido con los puños. muy bueno el 1-2 q hace en el 2do ippon. despues cuando aghayev se lanza el italiano se agacha siempre. jej, seguro q despues de ganarle a aghayev todos lo daban como favorio para la final. pero gano rene smaal. no vi ese combate. pero gano el holanes. aghayev no pelea mal, pero en las ultimas tecnicas se ve q se cansa un poco y las hace cn poca presicion. buen duelo. como en la final del mundo 2010 de -75
più che altro, un italiano veramente veramente forte che batte un campione come Rafael Aghayev! la nostra nazionale è veramente a livelli europei e mondiali altissimi e mi chiedo come il karate non sia oggi una disciplina a livello OLIMPICO....
@LoLLoDKA non lo diventerà mai perchè la mia idea è che hanno accettato una disciplina per ogni nazione, ad es. il Judo=Giappone; Taekwondo=Korea;il Kung Fu=Cina ecc...Se accettassero il Karate, sarebbe una discplina marziale in più a favore dei Giapponesi e quindi dovrebbero concedere altro spazio anche alle altre nazioni (ammesso e concesso che nelle altre nazioni ci sia più di una disciplina marziale).
@LoLLoDKA tempo fa ho sentito dire che forse potrebbero accettarlo a patto di usare protezioni totali come nel Taekwondo perchè così come usa in competizione lo giudicano pericoloso,,, anche i boxers usano le protezioni complete alle olimpiadi.
infatti da quest'anno il regolamento riguardante le protezioni per il kumite è cambiato per tutti gli agonisti e di conseguenza anche a questi livelli
@LoLLoDKA tempo fa ho sentito dire che forse potrebbero accettarlo a patto di usare protezioni totali come nel Taekwondo perchè così come usa in competizione lo giudicano pericoloso,,, anche i boxers usano le protezioni complete alle olimpiadi.
I know it's hard to admit after two victory at world championships but Aghayev didn't have any injury, it's a balderdash!!!!! this time he's met who kicked his ass, dethroned and humiliated; no thrown, no panther, no speedy kizami, no everything! He just lost his match. Was he tired? well, so his opponent was tired too, it is final match!
i thing rafeal play with problem both for his mind and his body and i this match there rafeal is not play with him self . and that man is very lucky .every rafeal fan sure that he will come back with his real power
Aghayev did not look like himself in this fight. Plus his opponent has definitely been studying Aghayev's fight videos. Luigi gt lucky because Aghayev thought he could play around with him early on in the fight. But Luigi had his number. Luigi definitely took some plays from Aghayev's book to get the win though.
Even in his worst shape Aghayev gets 3rd place in the European Championship, a dream come true for many of those criticizing here. He did have a serious injury and should not have competed at all in this championship.
@menaha03: I can understand chest guards for cadets and kids, but for grown men? The punches may hurt, but this is karate! You're suppose to condition your body to dish and take punishment. You don't see Kyokushin guys wear chest guards, do you? And they fight bear knuckle and full-contact. JKA tournaments don't have chestguards either. Leave it to the EKF in leading the way for the pussification of Karate-do.
whats with the chest protectors... and even though its point fighting punches that are landed aren't light at all... I think those chest protectors makes you even much hotter.The refs did a poor job keeping sportsmanship alive. Rafael fought Luigi before and showed total respect and now this luigi dude...... any how part of being a champion is knowing how to lose and climb back the ladder...
Etiquette in the WKF has really gone to pot. Strutting around the ring as soon as the ref says you've won? Really? This isn't Wimbledon! I can understand how anyone would be euphorically happy if they defeated a champion, but begging the crowd for claps is just plain wrong. And in Aghayev's case, not bowing at the end of a match, even if you are completely crushed, is just unacceptable.
Well you know guys... sometimes after a big tournament (like the WKF 2010), some people take a break and when they come back, they are not in the same shape. I think that happened with Aghayev. Either way, Luigi did a pretty good fight and he won by himself. Unlike Oscar Vazquez that defeated Aghayev in Estonia 2008 in a shady way (referees included)
Isn't it clear why aghayev lost? His previous fight was against the swiss champion sensei murat sahin. If you look at the video, you'll see that the fight was an exciting and especially an exhausting one. No wonder that he isn't fit, but still, he's one of the best karatekas in the -75 cat.
We all see that Rafael wasn't on top. For what reason we don't know, it might be that he hasn't trained, got a cold close into the competition or whatever. But remember that he lost to Oscar Vasquez in Estonia 2008 and got back to the top in 2009. I mean to talk about that he should change weight division after just one loss is a bit extreme, we all have our bad days. And when Rafael had a bad day he still got 3rd place.
Not only did he tank, but he was beat by his own game, which is to be the aggresor for the majority of the fight. This will hopefully onyl serve as motivation for Rafael in the long run.
AGHAYEV.... tired?... did he loose his temper towards the end and got emotional or was it him being tired? Kudos to Luigi for this one. @SyracuseJundokan I agree. he looked off his game towards the end.
what was going on ? aghayev without power, without speed, slipping away.. normally he's exploding but this was just lame. he must have been tired from fights before.. this is absolutely not like him.
ThatWebNerd 2 weeks ago
buen trabajo tactico del Italiano, lo neutralizo
aleta12 1 month ago
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aleta12 1 month ago
For those who don't know, this is no ordinary Italins..he got the 2nd place after Rafa in world champion before and he is one of the most annoying fighters ou can ever face..his Kizami is sooo fast and he is so difficult to catch..
mahmoud87ful 1 month ago
Worst Kumite match i've ever seen, if i was judging neither competitor would have scored a point. very disapointed. this match makes me feel even more like joining Kyokushin. i expect more from Elite Sports Karate. i like to think of the WKF as about the tip-tap-point-stop Karate everyone complains about. maybe european sport karate has become like european judo like my judo friends say, everything is about the points.
topgearfan72 1 month ago
I hate to say this, but aghayev behaves like a drama-queen, in fact, he always has. never thought much of him as a kumite-phenomenon. he's hust a master of deceiving rather than a full-blown kumite animal. he's good alright, but so are 10,000 others out there. but none of them play chess: they just do karate. and follow the real "do". Osu.
allesinmetaal 2 months ago
great fight for italy, too much clinching for my taste :p
xXGatorsFanXx 2 months ago
awww aghayev looks verry verry much taired wel done italian
bolgari911 3 months ago
muy táctico el kumite de Italia... felicitaciones... no dejó trabajar a Aghayev
MegaRavv 4 months ago 2
im gunna regret saying ths but i think that italy was a bit to fast for Aghayev... :/
Scooboy19 4 months ago
@Scooboy19 naah, its just rafael losing too much energy on previous matches :)
messiprogila 3 months ago
@messiprogila haha true that ;)
Scooboy19 2 months ago
good job for italian
GKHNGNY 4 months ago
Jag hör någon svensk prata i bakgrunden ;P
NeWMeDal14 4 months ago
@NeWMeDal14 Antagligen någon från landslaget :)
KARATEbyJesse 4 months ago
lol i know it was the chest protector making him look fat, but aghayev looked seriously out of shape.
madgecic 4 months ago
just sport...
phoenix220911 5 months ago
4:06
CrazyVideosPro 5 months ago
3:31
CrazyVideosPro 5 months ago
rafael is like drunk lol
InfernalViruz 5 months ago
i think those 2 scores awarded the italian were not clear cut scores. the 1st one did not really make impact. i think it was abt 4 inches from rafael's face and the 2nd one was also not in very good form. it should have been a draw and then after that 1 minute extra round. anyways i guess dats just how the game goes sometimes.
obeng6 6 months ago
luigi busa es muy rapido con los puños. muy bueno el 1-2 q hace en el 2do ippon. despues cuando aghayev se lanza el italiano se agacha siempre. jej, seguro q despues de ganarle a aghayev todos lo daban como favorio para la final. pero gano rene smaal. no vi ese combate. pero gano el holanes. aghayev no pelea mal, pero en las ultimas tecnicas se ve q se cansa un poco y las hace cn poca presicion. buen duelo. como en la final del mundo 2010 de -75
francoreco 7 months ago
¡No me ha gustado nada el combate del Italiano, no pelea, asi queda aun mas claro que Aghayev es el mejor!
1976kumite 7 months ago
es la chida
ILoveJubiiBiebs 7 months ago
I LOVE THIS GAME, BRAVISSIMO LUIGI !!!
daviddubo1 8 months ago
many thanks for informations
sim1IT 8 months ago
это что за балет?
gordan6677 8 months ago
Aghayev rullz 4 eva' !!!.
TheBeastKaRaTeKa 8 months ago
@TheBeastKaRaTeKa suck my huge cock, his time is going to get the end ahahahahahahaha
multiplecocco 7 months ago
Grande l'italiano ha combattuto veramente bene. L'arbitraggio è stato impeccabile.
7gabrix 8 months ago
@7gabrix finalmente un arbitro che non ha regalato punti all'azerbaigiano ihihihihih
multiplecocco 7 months ago
@multiplecocco
più che altro, un italiano veramente veramente forte che batte un campione come Rafael Aghayev! la nostra nazionale è veramente a livelli europei e mondiali altissimi e mi chiedo come il karate non sia oggi una disciplina a livello OLIMPICO....
LoLLoDKA 5 months ago
@LoLLoDKA non lo diventerà mai perchè la mia idea è che hanno accettato una disciplina per ogni nazione, ad es. il Judo=Giappone; Taekwondo=Korea;il Kung Fu=Cina ecc...Se accettassero il Karate, sarebbe una discplina marziale in più a favore dei Giapponesi e quindi dovrebbero concedere altro spazio anche alle altre nazioni (ammesso e concesso che nelle altre nazioni ci sia più di una disciplina marziale).
multiplecocco 5 months ago
@multiplecocco
ma il kung fu non è uno sport olimpico o.O
LoLLoDKA 4 months ago
@LoLLoDKA tempo fa ho sentito dire che forse potrebbero accettarlo a patto di usare protezioni totali come nel Taekwondo perchè così come usa in competizione lo giudicano pericoloso,,, anche i boxers usano le protezioni complete alle olimpiadi.
multiplecocco 5 months ago
@multiplecocco
infatti da quest'anno il regolamento riguardante le protezioni per il kumite è cambiato per tutti gli agonisti e di conseguenza anche a questi livelli
LoLLoDKA 4 months ago
@LoLLoDKA e cosa c'è di nuovo?
multiplecocco 4 months ago
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@LoLLoDKA tempo fa ho sentito dire che forse potrebbero accettarlo a patto di usare protezioni totali come nel Taekwondo perchè così come usa in competizione lo giudicano pericoloso,,, anche i boxers usano le protezioni complete alle olimpiadi.
multiplecocco 5 months ago
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He is also allowed to lose some matches, ot big deal.. Busà had nice tactics and won this tme.
bjutic 8 months ago
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bjutic 8 months ago
I know it's hard to admit after two victory at world championships but Aghayev didn't have any injury, it's a balderdash!!!!! this time he's met who kicked his ass, dethroned and humiliated; no thrown, no panther, no speedy kizami, no everything! He just lost his match. Was he tired? well, so his opponent was tired too, it is final match!
multiplecocco 8 months ago
Good italian performance but Aghayev is less reactive than usual
sim1IT 8 months ago
@sim1IT you are right!! I suppose it depends on an intensive training for months, soon or later his body get tired
multiplecocco 7 months ago
who is the italian guy ?
sim1IT 8 months ago
@sim1IT luiggi bussa
aoshi3000 8 months ago
ke te pasa aghayev ??? te desconoscoo .....
xavier01aj 9 months ago
i thing rafeal play with problem both for his mind and his body and i this match there rafeal is not play with him self . and that man is very lucky .every rafeal fan sure that he will come back with his real power
vibhutherealindian 9 months ago
Aghayev did not look like himself in this fight. Plus his opponent has definitely been studying Aghayev's fight videos. Luigi gt lucky because Aghayev thought he could play around with him early on in the fight. But Luigi had his number. Luigi definitely took some plays from Aghayev's book to get the win though.
pliskin67 9 months ago
WTF?? Why are they wearing those chest protectors??
veela1 9 months ago
@veela1 new rules.
Gruwy10 8 months ago
Even in his worst shape Aghayev gets 3rd place in the European Championship, a dream come true for many of those criticizing here. He did have a serious injury and should not have competed at all in this championship.
nbashirov 9 months ago
@nbashirov What injury did he have?
ArianMma92 9 months ago
@ArianMma92 Back injury
nbashirov 8 months ago
@ArianMma92 he got no injury, it's a bullshit cuz someone can't believe he just lost
multiplecocco 8 months ago
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@menaha03: I can understand chest guards for cadets and kids, but for grown men? The punches may hurt, but this is karate! You're suppose to condition your body to dish and take punishment. You don't see Kyokushin guys wear chest guards, do you? And they fight bear knuckle and full-contact. JKA tournaments don't have chestguards either. Leave it to the EKF in leading the way for the pussification of Karate-do.
ketong71 9 months ago
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ketong71 9 months ago
whats with the chest protectors... and even though its point fighting punches that are landed aren't light at all... I think those chest protectors makes you even much hotter.The refs did a poor job keeping sportsmanship alive. Rafael fought Luigi before and showed total respect and now this luigi dude...... any how part of being a champion is knowing how to lose and climb back the ladder...
menah03 9 months ago
I heard that Aghayev hurt his leg in the previous fight and he had problems with it before.
Salamonism 9 months ago
What a poor example of karate etiquette.
cheynemcmahonkarate 9 months ago
Etiquette in the WKF has really gone to pot. Strutting around the ring as soon as the ref says you've won? Really? This isn't Wimbledon! I can understand how anyone would be euphorically happy if they defeated a champion, but begging the crowd for claps is just plain wrong. And in Aghayev's case, not bowing at the end of a match, even if you are completely crushed, is just unacceptable.
AndoraLesley 9 months ago 2
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ketong71 9 months ago
@Hasaanchop23: I agree, what's with the chest protectors? It's not like they're doing full-contact karate. It's point-fighting, for crying out loud!
ketong71 9 months ago
Well you know guys... sometimes after a big tournament (like the WKF 2010), some people take a break and when they come back, they are not in the same shape. I think that happened with Aghayev. Either way, Luigi did a pretty good fight and he won by himself. Unlike Oscar Vazquez that defeated Aghayev in Estonia 2008 in a shady way (referees included)
rpeimbert 9 months ago
Isn't it clear why aghayev lost? His previous fight was against the swiss champion sensei murat sahin. If you look at the video, you'll see that the fight was an exciting and especially an exhausting one. No wonder that he isn't fit, but still, he's one of the best karatekas in the -75 cat.
Xcubitor 9 months ago
We all see that Rafael wasn't on top. For what reason we don't know, it might be that he hasn't trained, got a cold close into the competition or whatever. But remember that he lost to Oscar Vasquez in Estonia 2008 and got back to the top in 2009. I mean to talk about that he should change weight division after just one loss is a bit extreme, we all have our bad days. And when Rafael had a bad day he still got 3rd place.
Wandi90 9 months ago
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Wandi90 9 months ago
Yeah he looked off his game. I wonder what was up.
Goldenwrath 9 months ago
Not only did he tank, but he was beat by his own game, which is to be the aggresor for the majority of the fight. This will hopefully onyl serve as motivation for Rafael in the long run.
P.S. What's with the chest protectors?
Hasaanchop23 9 months ago
AGHAYEV.... tired?... did he loose his temper towards the end and got emotional or was it him being tired? Kudos to Luigi for this one. @SyracuseJundokan I agree. he looked off his game towards the end.
trograin 9 months ago
Rafael look not Fit!!! He should changing his weight class to 65kg!!!
Atilganlar 9 months ago
It's hard to tell in video, but he definitely seemed off his game...
SyracuseJundokan 9 months ago
The winning athlete is Luigi Busà (ITA).
alexkarate 9 months ago