I experimented with a Shihonage-type technique recently.
1. Tori attacks vertically with sword and steps forward with right leg.
2. Uke enters to the right, then takes a grip on the sword handle, between the hands.
3. Tori performs Shihonage movement while Uke maintains grip.
Uke suffers a Shihonage wristlock and a cut to the neck.
From different grips on the sword, other techniques appeared, including Kotegaeshi, Kotehineri and a joint-lock Kataguruma - each with easy cuts and the end.
If you wants to see similar transitions from the sword to ju-jutsu or aikido technics, and transition from aikido technics to ken-jutsu, iaido, or jo-jutsu, then watchs Shoji Nishio Sensei.
Katate Ryote dori (holding the lower part of the arms with two hands) that changes to aihamni katate dori omote shihonage (holding one arm with one hand - right hand to right arm or left arm to left, and then passing uke diagonal in front of the body (omote) and making the throw) - we would call it in Akido. Good shihonage.
Very interesting video. I have no idea what he said, 'cause I don't speak japanese, but I did learn something about the similarities of kenjutsu and jujutsu.
thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!! I knew that link (riai) but it s good to watch it explained by one of the greatest ever.... thank you !!!!!!
Its nice to see people who study different styles discussing the video in positive ways, not bickering over whos stlye is better, judo, ju-jutus, aiki-jujutsu. aikido. there is alot we can all learn from one another. (not to mention all of the other styles!)
@aiki067 Testify brother...I get so tired of the internet tough guys who don't post anything of themselves, but try to poop over everyone else's work. Nice comment...
Thank you for sharing this video...the exploration of Kenjutsu as the premise- foundation for kihon in jujutsu, Aikijutsu, and for myself, karatedo, is mind-boggling / enlightening, to say the least!
Please let me know if there are other demonstrative videos? Appreciated!
The demonstrator is Soke Dairi Kondo which is translated as the vice headmaster. He was awarded this title directly by the 36th headmaster for his skills and abilities. His Daito-ryu techniques execute at the beginning of most techniques, which is the most important phase. So study the beginning rather than the ending.
Sensei Kondo in this video teaches to loosen your grip at the end of Shihonage to prevent injury on uke which renders the technique quite uninjurious if uke performs a mid-air forward fall.
Its so great that Kondo sensei is getting such great feedback. I have been his student for more than twenty years. He really is the last of the true masters..Andy
Aikidoka 21, where do you get your info? Daito ryu includes influences from Jikishinkage ryu and Onno ha Itto ryu. And...Ueshiba included influence from Yagyu Shingan ryu and Kashima Shinto ryu.
this is kenjutsu yagyu ryu school morihei ueshiba founder of aikido learned from this school as well as some other schools and most aikido waza techniqes come from kenjutsu and this is a perfect interpretation of shiho nage which is translated as four directions throw with the sword.
I don't speak Japanese and don't know what Kondo sensei is saying, but this version of shihonage looks NASTY: uke's arm is extended fully with the elbow hyperextended. If uke does not throw himself, his elbow gets absolutely ruined. The shihonage as practiced in aikido folds uke's arm so his elbow isn't really in danger: its not as painful as its intention is to down the opponent without harming them (ie., no breaking elbows).
I know what your talking about, but provided uke knows how to breakfall he should be able to avoid injury. We do this sometimes at my Aikido Dojo, its not as bad as it may look and I agree with Rasko Kondou Sensei is among the very best of his style.
It was explained to me, very simply...... to understand Jiu Jitsu (lets not get into the correct spelling here!)..; you have to know the sword...THEY ARE THE SAME but the 'way' of the sword is the essence of the art.....
Yes absolutely (although you used the BJJ spelling), this also the reason why we spend alot of time practicing wrist grabs, as to stop you from being able to draw your sword!
As I already stated, I do not study Daito Ryu so I am not knowledgeable about it, and my comments stems from my experience in other Japanese sword arts.
You really don't know fuck all, cos we should thank you they can use the sword arts to creat the locking arts, we are still have far away to get that level.
That seigan and jodan look awfully cumbersome, with the arms locked out... But I don't do daito-ryu so who knows, maybe its a perfectly effective kamae =)
I think U trainning beginning level for 20 yrs, as I know this is advance level, in begin level will hold on ground but this advance level need to BROKE your arm at once!!! You can't hold one by one on the ground if you face with more than one in street.
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hayek218 1 week ago
This is one very "glib" video. =p
youngchampagne 2 weeks ago
I experimented with a Shihonage-type technique recently.
1. Tori attacks vertically with sword and steps forward with right leg.
2. Uke enters to the right, then takes a grip on the sword handle, between the hands.
3. Tori performs Shihonage movement while Uke maintains grip.
Uke suffers a Shihonage wristlock and a cut to the neck.
From different grips on the sword, other techniques appeared, including Kotegaeshi, Kotehineri and a joint-lock Kataguruma - each with easy cuts and the end.
Okaruwazashi 2 months ago
If you wants to see similar transitions from the sword to ju-jutsu or aikido technics, and transition from aikido technics to ken-jutsu, iaido, or jo-jutsu, then watchs Shoji Nishio Sensei.
mickparly 4 months ago
Katate Ryote dori (holding the lower part of the arms with two hands) that changes to aihamni katate dori omote shihonage (holding one arm with one hand - right hand to right arm or left arm to left, and then passing uke diagonal in front of the body (omote) and making the throw) - we would call it in Akido. Good shihonage.
mickparly 4 months ago
Excellent. Thank you for sharing.
zarisstokell 6 months ago
Very interesting video. I have no idea what he said, 'cause I don't speak japanese, but I did learn something about the similarities of kenjutsu and jujutsu.
Haaraskaba 6 months ago
Great transition demo!
TheCylrin 10 months ago
Domo arigato, very good video !
nat1971 1 year ago
Very good video. Like others have said here seeing the transition/transformation of the techniques is extremely valuable.
dannosaurus 1 year ago
thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!! I knew that link (riai) but it s good to watch it explained by one of the greatest ever.... thank you !!!!!!
samleonetles3 1 year ago
Nice to see the transition from kenjutsu to jujutsu being shown clearly.
symsee 1 year ago
Excellent
SteffenReichel 1 year ago
This is an amazing video :) Thank you for it.
xSkarprox 1 year ago
Its nice to see people who study different styles discussing the video in positive ways, not bickering over whos stlye is better, judo, ju-jutus, aiki-jujutsu. aikido. there is alot we can all learn from one another. (not to mention all of the other styles!)
aiki067 2 years ago 15
@aiki067 Testify brother...I get so tired of the internet tough guys who don't post anything of themselves, but try to poop over everyone else's work. Nice comment...
toddymo 11 months ago
Comprehensive, I thuink we need to use ken to learn the techniques properly...
Zulog1 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing this video...the exploration of Kenjutsu as the premise- foundation for kihon in jujutsu, Aikijutsu, and for myself, karatedo, is mind-boggling / enlightening, to say the least!
Please let me know if there are other demonstrative videos? Appreciated!
SensieSanzashi 2 years ago
The demonstrator is Soke Dairi Kondo which is translated as the vice headmaster. He was awarded this title directly by the 36th headmaster for his skills and abilities. His Daito-ryu techniques execute at the beginning of most techniques, which is the most important phase. So study the beginning rather than the ending.
instructor2809 2 years ago
Sensei Kondo in this video teaches to loosen your grip at the end of Shihonage to prevent injury on uke which renders the technique quite uninjurious if uke performs a mid-air forward fall.
instructor2809 2 years ago
Chust wow!!!
thx for this....
BRADLY2009 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing this.
VegaEtereo 2 years ago
Its so great that Kondo sensei is getting such great feedback. I have been his student for more than twenty years. He really is the last of the true masters..Andy
tvmartialarts 2 years ago
Hi Andy. I too am pleased about this and wish there was an instructor from Kondo Sensei's dojo here in NZ.
instructor2809 2 years ago
excellent instruction
moldero 3 years ago 2
Excellent video!
aibuwarrior 3 years ago
holy shit when they say everything comes from a weapon they really mean it. my sensei always says this
rassanbellah22 3 years ago
Great video. I really like his explination of how Aikido waza came from Kenjutsu waza.
tmanf22 3 years ago
nice video, where can i get more of this videos???
rasko006 3 years ago
there are a few diato ryu DVD's availible, they are great. Tori here is Katsuyuki Kondo. His DVD's are the best.
nattydread69x 3 years ago
also daito ryu emphasizes the kashima shinden ryu koryu school of kenjutsu
aikidoka21 3 years ago
Aikidoka 21, where do you get your info? Daito ryu includes influences from Jikishinkage ryu and Onno ha Itto ryu. And...Ueshiba included influence from Yagyu Shingan ryu and Kashima Shinto ryu.
judoschmudo 3 years ago 2
this is kenjutsu yagyu ryu school morihei ueshiba founder of aikido learned from this school as well as some other schools and most aikido waza techniqes come from kenjutsu and this is a perfect interpretation of shiho nage which is translated as four directions throw with the sword.
aikidoka21 3 years ago
is aikido shihonage really different? or are they supposed to be same?
Aur0rah 3 years ago
I don't speak Japanese and don't know what Kondo sensei is saying, but this version of shihonage looks NASTY: uke's arm is extended fully with the elbow hyperextended. If uke does not throw himself, his elbow gets absolutely ruined. The shihonage as practiced in aikido folds uke's arm so his elbow isn't really in danger: its not as painful as its intention is to down the opponent without harming them (ie., no breaking elbows).
OneAngryAsian 3 years ago
OneAngryAsian...you are loocking at the best!
RaskoTheSamurai 3 years ago
I know what your talking about, but provided uke knows how to breakfall he should be able to avoid injury. We do this sometimes at my Aikido Dojo, its not as bad as it may look and I agree with Rasko Kondou Sensei is among the very best of his style.
Seankwondo87 3 years ago
interesting anyone know where i can find more explanationa thanx
memongman 3 years ago
It was explained to me, very simply...... to understand Jiu Jitsu (lets not get into the correct spelling here!)..; you have to know the sword...THEY ARE THE SAME but the 'way' of the sword is the essence of the art.....
elequantharold 3 years ago
Yes absolutely (although you used the BJJ spelling), this also the reason why we spend alot of time practicing wrist grabs, as to stop you from being able to draw your sword!
wheyez 3 years ago
Perfect explanation for shionage. Thanks..
hsedan 3 years ago
i love the relation to kenjutsu waza that this clip is showing! shihonage, very nice
EishinRyu 3 years ago
Yeah, but if you can't tell he's pretty good then you don't know fuck all.
kusalara 4 years ago
As I already stated, I do not study Daito Ryu so I am not knowledgeable about it, and my comments stems from my experience in other Japanese sword arts.
nii87 4 years ago
You really don't know fuck all, cos we should thank you they can use the sword arts to creat the locking arts, we are still have far away to get that level.
ksd414 3 years ago
That seigan and jodan look awfully cumbersome, with the arms locked out... But I don't do daito-ryu so who knows, maybe its a perfectly effective kamae =)
nii87 4 years ago
They don't look locked-out to me, but I'm pretty sure they should be well-extended.
MaxBrains 4 years ago
100% agree with you !! I trained Daito Ryu for 20 years, we dont do the same
KenBuDO 4 years ago
Is it similar though? Is this video 'proper' daito ryu?
nii87 4 years ago
I think U trainning beginning level for 20 yrs, as I know this is advance level, in begin level will hold on ground but this advance level need to BROKE your arm at once!!! You can't hold one by one on the ground if you face with more than one in street.
ksd414 3 years ago