Interview with Robert Price and John Loftus 2/6

[zytigon]

"The reason driven life " by Price and " WIBA " by Loftus are excellent books. Even if you didn't accept their conclusions they would make you think of many different aspects. They also help to get into the habit of asking for evidence and using different methods of thought rather than just trying to guess " Is this bit Real or Fiction ". A loving, good God would take everyone to heaven, but then a good God would prevent serious crime. Are the angels to busy singing to help down here?

[dahlusion]

perfect!!!

[ritter89]

Love Bob Price.....has a great sense of humor

[DeDona1]

I cannot get passed that cowboy hat.

[HuckMeHard]

I find the Star Wars Trilogy to be far more interesting and meaningful than the bible.

Just saying.

[Inqoinf]

@HuckMeHard I LOLDED in my pants!

[kdheithaus]

you hear an awful lot about conversion - there must always be a conversion, it seems - the one constant seems to be change...

[Desophistic]

I disagree with your definition of Atheism and Agnosticism. Gnosticism relates to what is known or unknowable while Theism relates to belief. They are not mutually exclusive. A-theism is merely a response position to a theistic belief and literally means not a theist, so rejecting the claim: god(s) exists for whatever reason (e.g.: lack of evidence) makes you an Atheist, by default, regardless of having made or not made a claim to know if it is true or not.

[Nowitzki25]

you can never prove without a shadow of a doubt that something doesnt exist, it's just imposible. It's like trying to prove that a unicorn doesnt exist somewhere in the universe. The burden of proof is always on the believer, it's only logical.

[superwolf76]

At 7:04, he begins a claim that someone who doesn't believe in a God is making an assertion of some sort and the burden of proof also lies with that person as much as it is with someone who believes. I don't think that belief is a choice. I think it's a state. A non-belief is still a belief. A non-act is still an act. (Think Polonius or J. Alfred Prudock) So, maybe he is correct. You have to at least prove something to yourself and who is harder to persuade but yourself?

[yuothineyesasian]

@superwolf76

I'd have to agree with Nowitzki25 here, beliefs need only to be proven to oneself.

The difference comes when something is stated as facts to others, The burden lies on those who make the claim on fact. Not on those who simply believe. Most intelligent atheists would say that they believe there is no God, there probably is no God, but there is the possibility of a God. Where as theists usually state their beliefs as fact, as doctrine requires them to do.

[superwolf76]

i wrote that about a year ago. I wasn't very clear. I agree with what you write. There is the practical view and the absolute view. We cannot say absolutely. No disagreement.