What I understand of Mary Stuart is that she was a poster child for the Catholic cause at the time of Elizabeth (a revered Protestant Queen). She was Queen of France by marriage, Queen of Scotland by birth, a distant relative to the leaders of the Catholic League, and as a distant relative of Henry VIII had a claim to the throne of England. This made Mary a threat to Elizabeth and her Protestant allies, because she symbolized hope for a return to Catholicism in the eyes of English Catholics.
The comments on this page display a depressing ignorance of history.
1. Mary Stuart, queen of Scots, was NOT the daughter of Henry VIII and Katherine of Aragon. Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) was. Mary Stuart's mother was Margaret Tudor, sister of Henry VIII. She was thus Elizabeth's 2nd cousin.
2. Elizabeth I never converted to Protestantism, she was raised a protestant all of her life. It was her protestantism that endagered her life under her half sister Mary Tudor's rule.
@sbrownfi Mary Queen of Scots mother was Marie De Guise, not Margaret Tudor, who was her Grandmother, her father King James V of Scotland was first cousin to Mary Tudor and Elizabeth, therefore Mary was first cousin, once removed, the nearest royal relative to the Tudors
@SALeppard You are of course, correct, I misspoke. Margaret, Henry's sister was her grandmonther. As to first/second cousin, I think we may have a difference of usage due to dialect differences.
What a death Mary was the first of many a monarchs to have her head cut the start of an age of that ended many monarchsf an age that would lead us into the modern world
For all that people feel Mary was a martyr, the thing that Mary got wrong (and suicide bombers get this wrong all the time) is that in order to be a martyr, you don't plot to kill other people in order to die for your faith. She (Mary) kept scheming and plotting and causing death/chaos to all around her.
Lastly, this execution scene is the most realistic since this is how it was actually done, in great privacy and only a FEW well picked spectators.
@TheNuharoo Mary was indeed a martyr for her faith and for her legitimate and rightful claim as Queen of England. Mary was condemded by second hand evidence, that others had clearly falsified, Mary stood no chance. Mary plotted to kill nobody, but to gain her freedom, which she had every right to, pity the Human rights Act was not in place for Mary. Why did the english state give Mary A state funeral, who they had 6 months as they said excuted her for treason, strange or what?
Mary plotted to gain her freedon, not against anybody, the so called evidence was second hand in others hand writing, which Mary pointed out. Mary was indeed a martyr for her faith and for the very simple fact she was the Legitimate and rightful Queen of England. Why did the english goverment give Mary a state funeral, the clear answer is they knew they had wrongfully and illegaly murdered their legitimate Queen. The murder was in front of 300 spectators not just a few, check it out.
Mary left a trail of blood and chaos throughout her life and only death put an end to it. As for the execution, it was portrayed with almost perfect accuracy in this film. It was done in a room, with the 'right' witnesses, and I admire how devoted they were to protocl throughout.
You lot really miss the point Elizabeth did what she did to stop us being ruled buy a decrepid Peadophile in the Vatican.
A religion that burned women for knowing how to heal naturally.
A religion based on torture and fear.
The Catholic Church is an offshoot of the Roman Empire most of the early bishops were Roman Generals it was a way to hoard and keep all there ill gotton gains and this has not changed today.
Thank you Elizabeth for doing what you had to to keep us ENGLISH
@MrAndyg1962 Ok, so while you go on to accuse the Catholic Church you should consider this: The Spanish Inquisition, which I'm guessing you are reffering to, was more just and leniant than any other european court at the time. Execution was not common, and torture was very, very rare. So while you accuse the Catholic Church of henious crimes, don't turn a blind eye on the fact that Elizabeth killed more Catholics in 1 year than the Inquisition did in 331 years. Henry VIII executed 72,000 people.
Though I will admit that Mary Stuart was no angel (sorry to the Catholic faction, but I call them as I see them), I am still on the fence as to whether she deserved execution. As my comments below indicate, however, in the long run, Elizabeth was a bloodstained harridan. This is similar to how Peter the GREAT of Russia killed far more Russians than Ivan the TERRIBLE, but he is a hero because he defeated the Swedes and Turks, and allowed for imperial expansion.
Let a Greek Orthodox Christian settle the dispute here. Elizabeth was a far bloodier monarch than her sister "Bloody Mary", but alas, the victors get to write history. About 300 Protestants died under Mary I, and she even spared most of the conspirators who tried to keep her from the throne, that is, until they rebelled again. Over 4,000 Catholics, more than half of them Irish women and children, died under Elizabeth. Security reasons? Yeah, right.
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Looking at some of these comments, it just shows what turmoil an hate one man/king an others can do with their actions!. That is why he is known most above other English Kings through history!.
ole Mary QoS wasnt pretty anymore by the time of the be-heading either. she was fat from sitting around eating all day and night (royal feasts every day..twice a day. elizabeth saw that Mary still ATE like a royal even though she was "imprisoned") and when the excecutioner grabbed her hair to hold her head up, (as customary when beheading a royal to yell "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!") her WIG fell off and she was bald underneath "but a couple patches of grey hair behind the ears"
You live up to your moniker, mate! In your view, does being overweight justify someone's being executed after a phony trial which would not have taken place in today's world?
This discussion is pointless. Most of you based your assessment of Elizabeth on you emotions, not on realistic evaluation of historical circumstances. Some of you refer to works by Philippa Gregory who writes entertaining but highly questionable historical fiction (fiction is the key word). For more realistic assessment of the relationship between Mary and Elizabeth, please try Anne Somerset or at least Alison Weir. About Elizabeth legitimacy, seriously you want to beat that dead horse?
Technically,Elizabeth was illegitimate. BUT only if you were Catholic. With the Reformation and Protestant movement,she was legitimate.
Queen Elizabeth was a gangster. Queen Mary had the correct lineage but made disastrous after godawful decision. She lacked the toughness,ruthlessnes,and political skill of Queen Elizabeth. Had she possessed those qualities ,she could have taken the throne. She got her revenge anyway because her son inherited the throne from Queen Elizabeth.
That was a political plot by his enemies. Queen Mary had nothing to do with that. She let her heart rule her head in an era where that was dangerous for a woman ruler to do. They already thought women were stupid. Queen Elizabeth was the total opposite and that's why she survived.
Her line still claimed the throne of England and went on to rule. So in a way she did win. Those were harsh times and Queen Mary was a political liability. Her son knew that. Cruel but that's the way it was. There was no room for emotion or sentiment. Queen Elizabeth knew that and that's why she ruled so long.
England had an enemy within and was surrounded by catholic countries (and a papcy) seeking to exploit any weaknesses after her father's break from Rome. They tried again under James I with Guido Fawkes. No wonder they were paranoid and Elizabeth was in an impossible position. Thankfully this act avoided more bloodshed and maybe a English Inquisition. Mary knew what she was doing hence her transparent dramatics.
To EVAPERONFAN, I am sorry but I have absolutely no idea what your message means. You say that 'every English speaking person on the planet should be grateful to Elizabeth'. Despite the fact that none of us actually knew her I can't see why? Perhaps you could elaborate.
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The axman botched the job on poor Mary. They could've of at least given the woman an expert swordsman. At least HenryVIII had enough class to get the best for Anne's execution. Elizabeth was a real bitch when it came to her cousin!!!
lol, i read Elizabeth really wasnt intending to have her cousin executed. it was Lord Burghley that went ahead with the execution without the Queen's orders and afterwards she was really pissed and had the privy council (who was in charge of the warrent but gave it to Burghley) arrested and thrown into the tower.
@GoddessofHyrule I just came on and saw your post first thing. A great laugh! and a great way to start the day!
I have no idea who you were talking to, but anyone who has a problem with the Reformation better be glad it didn't end up being a whole lot worse for the RCs! It really is intriquing how much restraint the Protestants showed after waiting in vain for centuries for the RC church to "right itself."
@GoddessofHyrule That is funny! It was more the catholic church's problem with protestants then Elizabeth's actually. Most of Parliment at the time were Catholics so the queen was in a rock and a hard place. One side she had to maintain as queen on the other side she was understanding with Mary. But when Mary's letters of treason were intercepted then Elizabeth had no choice. Before Elizabeth died she herself became protestant and remained one until her death.
@GoddessofHyrule her mom, Katherine of Aragon was divorced from her husband Henry VIII and taken away from her daughter Mary. All because Henry fell in love with Anne Boleyn and the only way to get a divorce from Katherine was to split from the Catholic Church and then rose the Church of England...Katherine was the most ambitious and loving queen in history and what happened to her was a tragedy.
@LucioleToujours He was obsessed with Anne. Face it Henry really loved Queen Katherine, but she was six critical years older than he and had hit early menopause. Anne kept promising to H8, I will give you a SON.
No one then understood the biology of the entire matter. That is why H8 grew tired of her, as there was only one daughter with again a series of miscarriages.
@GoddessofHyrule That is what most Catholics ask Buddhist. It goes like this " What did the Catholic Church do to you?" I am glad you threw it right back at them
Ok I'm English and had to learn about our kings and queens in school plus i'm a hughe tudors fan i also live 10 mins fromn where mary queen of scots landed when she came to ask elizabeth for help and 20 mins from where shes stayed till she was arrested so here goes Mary was the Granddaughter of Margaret Tudor who wqas the Sister of Henry 8th who was Elizabeths father ok so they arte cousins that way.
Darnley and Mary were cousins, they were both blood relations (cousins) of Elizabeth I. They were both grandchildren of Margaret Tudor, who was sister to Henry VIII, Elizabeth's father.
No, you're wrong. I've read in a biography, and you can google it, that Mary I was married with Darnley. She killed him for another guy; Bothwell. After the murder she married him. Darnley was a cousin of Elizabeth I, and her heir. So Mary I was the niece of Elizabeth because of the marriage. Darnley was besides an descendant of King Henry VII.
No, I know what I'm talking about. I've read several biographies. Mary Stuart married Darnley, but they were also cousins by blood. Darnley's name was Herny Stuart, Lord Darnley. You can even look it up on Wikipedia if you don't believe me, the info is even on there. They both had claims to the English throne because they were BOTH related BY BLOOD to Elizabeth. You're right that she did mary Bothwell after Darnley died was killed, but she and Darnley were cousins of each other and Elizabeth I.
Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley and Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots were both descendants of Henry VIII because they both descended from the marriages of Margaret Tudor, his sister.
Mary Stuart had a claim to the English throne all along, long before she married Darnley. Her uncles in France called her the "rightful" Queen of England years before she married Darnley, because of her blood ties to Margaret Tudor. She was not related to Elizabeth only through marriage, but by blood.
Okay, you're right that Darnley and Mary were cousins. And you're also right that Mary and Elizabeth were cousins. That wasn't described in the biography that I've read. >.>
Well, I'm sorry. But I learned something of you. (;
Another lie from the film. Mary Stuart was brought up in France, and thus had a French accent. However in this 'film' the inept director thought, 'Queen of Scots, she must have a really thick Scottish accent!' oh dear oh dear.
Good point. Maybe they decided to make it easier for the audience to follow though so they wouldn't have to explain. But still i think they should have stuck to history.
I just saw the 2 movies of elizabeth portrayed by kate balchet, i dont understand what happend, cos in the first movie another actress played her and she died there... now in this one (the golden age) she was killed because of a plot...
In the first movie it wasn't Mary of Scots that died, it was Mary of Guise, who was Mary of Scots' mother. Elizabeth reigned for 40 some odd years so there was plenty of time during her reign for Mary of Scots to grow up and become the "annointed Queen of Scotland" etc.
yep, kinda like the financial state spain is in now right? and itscolonies, just like the spanish colonies or french colonies...u can say wat u want...ELizabeth and the reformation was the best thing to happen to England
Whether you thought Mary or Elizabeth was rightful Queen of England depends on whether you believed Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon was valid. That would have depended on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. All very complicated politically and, between the 2 queens, psychologically too. I can see both sides of the argument and the personal & political dilemma both queens faced - and not just the queens but the religious & European leaders of the time. No clear cut answers.
the spanish desroyed the english armada in 1589,9 years after the spanish armada, in the battle of counter- armada we destroyed 60 english ships and 40.000 english dead, this english defeat was bigger than the spanish armada
I'm not arguing with you, you clearly hold a 400 year old grudge, which is quite pathetic. You really make me laugh at the fact you think it was 6 ships! hahaha!
I shall not be commenting back as I have promised myself that i will not argue with someone with such little intelligence!
Mary Stuart was the rightful queen, Gods anointed queen and Elizabeth had her murdered. Even though it is old history Mary Stuart will always have my support.
Elizabeth did not want to have her killed, though she had no choice, how was she the rightful queen. Her uncle was Henry VIII, but Elizabeth's dad was Henry VIII :S
@laurenlfc48 Because in the eyes of the church Henry VIII marriage to Anne Boleyn was not legal. His first wife was still alive and living in a convent. That's why Henry was ex-communicated from the Catholic Church by the Pope. In the true line of succession Mary was indeed the rightful heir to the throne. As usual Henry made his own rules. :)
@Duchessclotho Yes I do know that. But logically Elizabeth was the rightful queen of England. You mau say Henry's marriage to Anne Boleyn was illegal but actually it wasn't as he broke away from the Catholic church and made his own church the Church of England and according to the rules of the Church of England you were allowed to be divorced. So therefore his mariage to Anne was not illegal as he was not married under Catholic oath.
After 25 years of marriage, validity had nothing to do with it. Henry divorced Catherine of Aragaon simply to appease Anne Boleyn who should have remained his mistress not his wife. This questioned the succession of Elizabeth 1who under Canon Law was illegitimate. As Mary Stuart was the grand-daughter of Henry's sister and his nearest Catholic descendant after the death of Mary Tudor she was rightfully Queen of England.
She is only illegitimate under catholic rules. Henry turned protestant and protestants are allowed to divorce and remarry, so she was legitimate. Henry was protestant untill he died so it should be his nearest protestant descendant after Mary tudor.
Not so, under Protestant Law, following the death of her mother, Henry himself declared Elizabeth illegitimate, stripped her of the title of Princess and removed her from the line of succession.
She did return to Court however, the law governing her illegitimacy was never revoked. The irony is that despite a long and glorious reign it is from the Queen of Scots that our present monarch is descended. 'In my end is my beginning' Mary Stuart. Pretty accurate don't you think?
Actually ELizabeth II isn't a direct descendant from Mary Stuart, shes just as much related to Elizabeth Tudor, because the house of Stuart ended with queen Anne
Wrong on all accounts Orkneysnorknie! Mary Stuart was a much loved Queen of France and Scotland. Sadly, the treachery of her half-brother James saw to her exile and execution. Elizabeth 11 directly descends from Mary Stuart through her son James 1, his daughter Elizabeth Queen of Bohemia, her daughter Sophia Electress of Hanover and then her son George 1 of England. I would be very pleased to assist you on any other historical inaccuracy.
well you shouldnt correct anyone when you need to be corrected yourself....first of all the only reason a lot of people wanted mary queen of scotts to be queen is because she was catholic and not protestant like queen elizabeth 1. secondly, elizabeth's father was named Henry the 8th not James 1. and mary stuart was elizabeth's half sister not mother!! but she was a threat to elizabeth, so they put her in a castle in which she couldnt leave.
xxilovetobiasxx - Read more carefully! My comment states that Mary Stuart's half-brother is not James 1st (her son) but James Hepburn. Everything you have stated after this is nonsense. Did you simply invent it?
Sorry xxilovetobiasxx, I meant to say James Stuart was Mary's half-brother. Coincidentally did you know that the Queen of Scot's legitimate claim to the English throne was because Elizabeth was a bastard?
Being accused of complacency in her husband's murder was never proven by the Scots or the English. Bear in mind that the Scottish Act of Reformation took place the year before Mary's return from France in 1561. Her subjects and her entire council had been Catholic as had their ancestors for a 1000 years. The Lords were responsible for the malicious rumours to discredit Mary Stuart and succeeded in doing so. Are you under the impression that the whole of Scotland was Protestant during her reign?
On a small point of interest, Elizabeth 1 did not rule England for 40 years nor did the the House of Stuart end with Queen Anne. Perhaps you could let us all know how our present monarch is not directly descended from Mary Queen of Scots?
Queen Anne was the last monarch of the house of stuart, she was also the first monarch of Britain, she reigned from 1702 1707 as queen of england and scotland and from 1707-1714 as queen of britain. she died with no surviving heirs, she was succeeded by George from the house of Hanover. So do some research before u give thumbdowns to comments. And my bad ELizabeth ruled 45 years
Sweet Snork, you seem to be under the illusion that the House of Stuart ended with Queen Anne. By rightful succession, Cardinal Henry Stuart was the last heir to the throne at least a hundred years later. George 1 of Hanover being the great-grandson of James 1 was also a Stuart so I shall have to give you another thumbsdown I'm afraid. Awful isn't it? By the way, your 'bad Elizabeth' to use your words actually reigned for 44 years and was a brilliant monarch. Anything else I can help you with?
Hmm ok how come george I was the first ruler of the house of honover? How did the house of stuart continue after anne? and btw....when the fuck did i say elizabeth was a bad manorch...if u would see my favorites half of those vids are about her. U know ur stuff btw...i apologise...but explain that last questions for me. thanks
George 1 came to the throne as a result of his mother and grandmother who was a Stuart princess and daughter of King James 1.. In the same way that children today take their father's surname, through his paternal heirs he became the Elector of Hanover. Queen Anne was the Protestant daughter of King James 11 whose conversion to Catholicism forced him into exile in 1688. By this time he already had a son who would have been the legitinate heir apparent. Thus, the rightful Stuart heirs continued.
@LexiMur George I (who was already over fifty and barely spoke English) came to the throne because most of the British did not want another Catholic on the throne. Unpopular as George I was, he was considered a better alternative than another Bloody Mary or a Stuart.
@happybkwrm It is often misread that the appointment of George 1 was a complete break from the line of succession. He was in fact the grandson of Elixabeth Stuart who married the Elector of Hanover. Mary Queen of Scots was his great-great-grandmother who was herself the grandaughter of Henry V111's sister Margaret Tudor,
@LexiMur I know. They grabbed the nearest Protestant who had a claim to the throne. They didn't want a Catholic on the throne of England, even one who was a direct descendent of James I of England.
@happybkwrm Before Anne's death it had already been passed by the Act of Settlement that George I and his heirs would inherit both kingdoms. I believe that this act changed my country forever. As the result of an inter-family Royal feud, the following fifty years were to devastate Scotland and all because of a simple matter of religion. By some strange twist of fate, Mary Stuart's legacy lives on in the form of the current Queen Elizabeth who is her direct descendant.
In answer to your third question, in your last statement but one it was you who wrote 'My bad Elizabeth'. We can not rewrite History and while Elizabeth 1 was the greatest English monarch ever to have ruled, please understand that for some Scots, whether for or against, the fate of Mary Stuart remains a very touchy subject indeed.
I meant, My bad, (as in sorry I was wrong) Elizabeth.....sorry one little comma can alter the intire meaning of sentence. Of cource it remains a touchy subject, i just think Mary's downfull was due to a chain of unfortunate events, wich started at the death of her first hubby.
Nah if Mary was the rightful queen, she would become Queen and Elizabeth wouldn't have ruled England for 40 years, and go down in history as one of the greatest monarchs, and Mary Stuart didn't have a very good track record at governing countries.
@LexiMur and I hesitate to think where Anglo heritage would be if Elizabeth would not have been queen. Every English speaking person on the planet should be grateful to Elizabeth. Thank God England remained Protestant.
@LexiMur Elizabeth 1 was a bastard, and she was not right for the throne. As well as held Mary captive in England so she wouldn't be able to gain her throne back. Later, after Mary continuously plotted her escape from this prison, Elizabeth feared to lose her crown, and made a law that "No Roman Catholic Can Be Heir To The Throne." That was complete controversy, she shouldn't have been on the throne herself, and for fear of Mary wanting to gain back her rightful place,
In a Catholic country,that would be true. But England had become nearly completely Protestant and there was no turning back the tide. If Queen Mary had succeeded in doing that,then yes,Queen Mary Of Scots would have been the rightful heir. But times and religion had changed. Queen Elizabeth was the rightful heir according to English law and religion.
@NicolaWriter She was a bastard and wasn't supposed to earn the throne, she actually took it from Mary who should have inherited it by law. Elizabeth put her under house arrest for attempting to escape and executed her for bringing her army to rescue her.
According to Catholic law,she was. But as I said,the tides was strictly in favour or Protestants. By the time Elizabeth was an adult,England had nearly completely abandoned Catholicism. She was legitimate under Protestant and English law. Nothing could be done for Queen Mary to claim the English throne. Common sense should have told her that. Queen Elizabeth was ruthless,no doubt,and that is why she ruled so long.
@LexiMur and execute Elizabeth, she made Mary's life harder and harder, until the day when her fear lead Mary to the Tower. And that was that. Of course William Cecil also shared a nice fat slice of this crime. He was supporting Elizabeth every step of the way, yet he turned Enlgand into a spying nation. Where wife spyed on husband and where brother spyed on sister
@LexiMur (Bess of Hardwick, the betraying wife of George, 6th Earl of Shrewbury for example). I despise Elizabeth greatly. As well as William Cecil, for nothing could have been accomplished without him.
Some of you people are so ignorant about history. Mary was rejected by the Scottish people and was forced to escape to England for her own life! She then plotted against the very queen who offered her safety from the people who hated her. Elizabeth agonised over what to do and actually found it incredibly difficult to have her executed but had no choice.
It's always easier to believe the Englishwoman was the bitch and the Scotswoman the victim....
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Erm, if you're referring to the Wyatt Plot, and I fear you are, can you point me in the direction of the evidence that Elizabeth was complicit? I don't think there is any firm evidence Elizabeth was ever involved in plotting against Mary.
I judge by your user name you are a Katharine of Aragon fan?!
Wow, woman on the edge! :o) No I don't have a problem with that at all. I admire her greatly. However, I must confess to being a HUGE Anne Boleyn fan!
Ive never really liked Anne(no offence) I can see she was a very intelligant and brave lady, but I just cant get passed the rather cruel and nasty things she did to various people. Yep I agree she was a very great lady(Erasmus admired her intelligance for goodness sakes! and at only 2 1/2 ambassadors were already raving about her beauty! and the bravery and courage she had and her capacity to forgive is astounding)
Thomas Wyatt sent a letter to Elizabeth informing her of his intentions to overthrow Mary, if she didnt want the plot to happen or was involved why not inform the goverment/her sister. Another letter to the French Ambassador could be read that Elizabeth had prior knowledge of the rebellion. cont...
There are plenty of things that happened we dont have firm evedence for -eg anne boleyn definatley didnt commit the crimes she was charged with, but there is no firm evidence to support this, doesnt mean that she did those crimes
you are wrong, mary escaped prison for her life which you did say, however she did not plot against elizabeth, people thought because she had escaped they would expect that
Such language ! but again I've rarely heard anyone being called a " stupid vagina ". Anyway as far as historical facts are concerned, the clip implies Mary was imprisoned in Eilean Donan castle. That is wrong, a quick end to Mary was not her lot, the execution was a complete disaster, or fuck up if you prefer. She suffered horrific pain, the executioner ( they were mostly drunk in those days ) took three blows with his axe to complete the decapitation.
In my history lesson my class were watching this movie, and i remembered the part were Mary had to be executed, nearly saw her head chopped off not fair in those days. I dont like mary cause she did a plot with someone about elizibeth
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ENGLISH VICTORY!
Queen Elizabeth I will always be the real and true Queen of England!
takemybreathawayok 6 days ago
What I understand of Mary Stuart is that she was a poster child for the Catholic cause at the time of Elizabeth (a revered Protestant Queen). She was Queen of France by marriage, Queen of Scotland by birth, a distant relative to the leaders of the Catholic League, and as a distant relative of Henry VIII had a claim to the throne of England. This made Mary a threat to Elizabeth and her Protestant allies, because she symbolized hope for a return to Catholicism in the eyes of English Catholics.
clancybkj 1 week ago
The last queen of England, murdered by an evil and false "queen". Mary Stuart, Ora pro nobis.
loggats 2 months ago
We need her now to save England from what it has become... what would she say nowadays?
NMWMN 2 months ago
The comments on this page display a depressing ignorance of history.
1. Mary Stuart, queen of Scots, was NOT the daughter of Henry VIII and Katherine of Aragon. Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) was. Mary Stuart's mother was Margaret Tudor, sister of Henry VIII. She was thus Elizabeth's 2nd cousin.
2. Elizabeth I never converted to Protestantism, she was raised a protestant all of her life. It was her protestantism that endagered her life under her half sister Mary Tudor's rule.
sbrownfi 2 months ago
@sbrownfi Mary Queen of Scots mother was Marie De Guise, not Margaret Tudor, who was her Grandmother, her father King James V of Scotland was first cousin to Mary Tudor and Elizabeth, therefore Mary was first cousin, once removed, the nearest royal relative to the Tudors
SALeppard 2 months ago
@SALeppard You are of course, correct, I misspoke. Margaret, Henry's sister was her grandmonther. As to first/second cousin, I think we may have a difference of usage due to dialect differences.
sbrownfi 2 months ago
2:45 -3:22 is the best part.
MATHEMATICS231 5 months ago
What a death Mary was the first of many a monarchs to have her head cut the start of an age of that ended many monarchsf an age that would lead us into the modern world
mmadonna62341 5 months ago
For all that people feel Mary was a martyr, the thing that Mary got wrong (and suicide bombers get this wrong all the time) is that in order to be a martyr, you don't plot to kill other people in order to die for your faith. She (Mary) kept scheming and plotting and causing death/chaos to all around her.
Lastly, this execution scene is the most realistic since this is how it was actually done, in great privacy and only a FEW well picked spectators.
TheNuharoo 6 months ago 9
@TheNuharoo Mary was indeed a martyr for her faith and for her legitimate and rightful claim as Queen of England. Mary was condemded by second hand evidence, that others had clearly falsified, Mary stood no chance. Mary plotted to kill nobody, but to gain her freedom, which she had every right to, pity the Human rights Act was not in place for Mary. Why did the english state give Mary A state funeral, who they had 6 months as they said excuted her for treason, strange or what?
SALeppard 2 months ago
Mary plotted to gain her freedon, not against anybody, the so called evidence was second hand in others hand writing, which Mary pointed out. Mary was indeed a martyr for her faith and for the very simple fact she was the Legitimate and rightful Queen of England. Why did the english goverment give Mary a state funeral, the clear answer is they knew they had wrongfully and illegaly murdered their legitimate Queen. The murder was in front of 300 spectators not just a few, check it out.
SALeppard 2 months ago
Mary left a trail of blood and chaos throughout her life and only death put an end to it. As for the execution, it was portrayed with almost perfect accuracy in this film. It was done in a room, with the 'right' witnesses, and I admire how devoted they were to protocl throughout.
TheNuharoo 2 months ago
@TheNuharoo so is it true.that her execution was botched and her wig was pulled off and her severd head actually rolled?
chykim1 3 weeks ago
This would've been so much more riveting it had been a motion picture.
ValiumandDolls 10 months ago
You lot really miss the point Elizabeth did what she did to stop us being ruled buy a decrepid Peadophile in the Vatican.
A religion that burned women for knowing how to heal naturally.
A religion based on torture and fear.
The Catholic Church is an offshoot of the Roman Empire most of the early bishops were Roman Generals it was a way to hoard and keep all there ill gotton gains and this has not changed today.
Thank you Elizabeth for doing what you had to to keep us ENGLISH
MrAndyg1962 11 months ago
@MrAndyg1962 Christianity, though it may have its faults, is not "a religion based on torture and fear."
For the majority of us, Christianity is about peace, love, and thanking God for His wonderful miracles.
balletslippers91 10 months ago 3
@MrAndyg1962 Ok, so while you go on to accuse the Catholic Church you should consider this: The Spanish Inquisition, which I'm guessing you are reffering to, was more just and leniant than any other european court at the time. Execution was not common, and torture was very, very rare. So while you accuse the Catholic Church of henious crimes, don't turn a blind eye on the fact that Elizabeth killed more Catholics in 1 year than the Inquisition did in 331 years. Henry VIII executed 72,000 people.
assasincomedy 7 months ago
Though I will admit that Mary Stuart was no angel (sorry to the Catholic faction, but I call them as I see them), I am still on the fence as to whether she deserved execution. As my comments below indicate, however, in the long run, Elizabeth was a bloodstained harridan. This is similar to how Peter the GREAT of Russia killed far more Russians than Ivan the TERRIBLE, but he is a hero because he defeated the Swedes and Turks, and allowed for imperial expansion.
ligreekguy 11 months ago
Let a Greek Orthodox Christian settle the dispute here. Elizabeth was a far bloodier monarch than her sister "Bloody Mary", but alas, the victors get to write history. About 300 Protestants died under Mary I, and she even spared most of the conspirators who tried to keep her from the throne, that is, until they rebelled again. Over 4,000 Catholics, more than half of them Irish women and children, died under Elizabeth. Security reasons? Yeah, right.
ligreekguy 11 months ago
Maria Stuart RIP
she died as a martyr.
MaryTudorXx 1 year ago
I love the part at 2:52 when she gazes at the throne with almost a look of "I was so close." "It could of been mine"
ivoe1574 1 year ago
STOP POSTING PICTURES1 if you're advertising a movie, post footage, not pictures--I can get that crap anywhere. Thanks for wasting my time.
NYCBlonde 1 year ago 2
p.s my favorite part starts at 2:51 i know that almost the end but its something about the part that sends chills to me
sxyval4u 1 year ago
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bella22010 1 year ago
poor mary stuart, Elizabeth had no right to send her to death. was a true Scottish Queen.
LeN0Re18 1 year ago
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hayleyshikari 1 year ago
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theetacutez 1 year ago
Ye stupid sassenachs dinnae hae a clue aboot bein queen A'll smash yer face in ye dozy English coonts, wurs that ginger gloobag bitch so I can smack her face frae here tae Glasgae
moomoo1337 1 year ago
Looking at some of these comments, it just shows what turmoil an hate one man/king an others can do with their actions!. That is why he is known most above other English Kings through history!.
100percentbabeLOL 1 year ago
What is the music at the beginning with the strings?
LAX324 1 year ago
ole Mary QoS wasnt pretty anymore by the time of the be-heading either. she was fat from sitting around eating all day and night (royal feasts every day..twice a day. elizabeth saw that Mary still ATE like a royal even though she was "imprisoned") and when the excecutioner grabbed her hair to hold her head up, (as customary when beheading a royal to yell "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!") her WIG fell off and she was bald underneath "but a couple patches of grey hair behind the ears"
hatefullll 1 year ago
@hatefullll
You live up to your moniker, mate! In your view, does being overweight justify someone's being executed after a phony trial which would not have taken place in today's world?
72Yonatan 1 year ago
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bella22010 1 year ago
que pena.
MrChilenito18 1 year ago
Chilling. Morton was great in this picture.
MidEasterner 1 year ago
Elizabeth with Helen Mirren is so much better.
MrZebraZombie 1 year ago
If Mary had not been greedy to inherit the english crown, she could have waited a few more years and she would have been queen of england..
bella22010 1 year ago
I like that sound effect music lol
pianoorganman 1 year ago
This discussion is pointless. Most of you based your assessment of Elizabeth on you emotions, not on realistic evaluation of historical circumstances. Some of you refer to works by Philippa Gregory who writes entertaining but highly questionable historical fiction (fiction is the key word). For more realistic assessment of the relationship between Mary and Elizabeth, please try Anne Somerset or at least Alison Weir. About Elizabeth legitimacy, seriously you want to beat that dead horse?
sidgil100 1 year ago 29
Technically,Elizabeth was illegitimate. BUT only if you were Catholic. With the Reformation and Protestant movement,she was legitimate.
Queen Elizabeth was a gangster. Queen Mary had the correct lineage but made disastrous after godawful decision. She lacked the toughness,ruthlessnes,and political skill of Queen Elizabeth. Had she possessed those qualities ,she could have taken the throne. She got her revenge anyway because her son inherited the throne from Queen Elizabeth.
NicolaWriter 1 year ago
@NicolaWriter, No ruthlessness? I dunno. Didn't she have her husband blown up?
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
@EyeLean5280
That was a political plot by his enemies. Queen Mary had nothing to do with that. She let her heart rule her head in an era where that was dangerous for a woman ruler to do. They already thought women were stupid. Queen Elizabeth was the total opposite and that's why she survived.
NicolaWriter 1 year ago
@NicolaWriter Some revenge - her son rejected her. He was given the chance to accept her as a co-ruler and refused, leaving her in prison.
happybkwrm 1 year ago
@happybkwrm
Her line still claimed the throne of England and went on to rule. So in a way she did win. Those were harsh times and Queen Mary was a political liability. Her son knew that. Cruel but that's the way it was. There was no room for emotion or sentiment. Queen Elizabeth knew that and that's why she ruled so long.
NicolaWriter 1 year ago
England had an enemy within and was surrounded by catholic countries (and a papcy) seeking to exploit any weaknesses after her father's break from Rome. They tried again under James I with Guido Fawkes. No wonder they were paranoid and Elizabeth was in an impossible position. Thankfully this act avoided more bloodshed and maybe a English Inquisition. Mary knew what she was doing hence her transparent dramatics.
willstar665 1 year ago 2
To EVAPERONFAN, I am sorry but I have absolutely no idea what your message means. You say that 'every English speaking person on the planet should be grateful to Elizabeth'. Despite the fact that none of us actually knew her I can't see why? Perhaps you could elaborate.
LexiMur 1 year ago
the music and story freaks me out.how nasty.
bidarsho1972 1 year ago 2
Isabel I de Inglaterra mato a su prima, y todo por mantener el poder, tan estuiosas, pero ignorantes, no se que consejeros tenian si es que los tenian, pero el hijo de maria estuardo, fue quien reino y quien unio todos los reinos de las islas britanicas, que paradojico!
astana1111 1 year ago
nunca la muerte es algo glorioso aunque ella lo quiso hacer asi.
quiso demostrar que no moria por traidora sino como una martir por su religion catolica.
lo de isabel fue imperdonable...tenerla tantos años en prision para luego matarla
pafirro 2 years ago
The music in this brings tears to my eyes!!!
Deader87 2 years ago
The axman botched the job on poor Mary. They could've of at least given the woman an expert swordsman. At least HenryVIII had enough class to get the best for Anne's execution. Elizabeth was a real bitch when it came to her cousin!!!
plutogirllovekj 2 years ago
lol, i read Elizabeth really wasnt intending to have her cousin executed. it was Lord Burghley that went ahead with the execution without the Queen's orders and afterwards she was really pissed and had the privy council (who was in charge of the warrent but gave it to Burghley) arrested and thrown into the tower.
ryohayashi 1 year ago
What is the music played for a few seconds at the very start and the very end of the video? :)
MsDoodle68 2 years ago
its from the lord of the rings song the eagles by howard shore ^_^
omegaslayer666 2 years ago
Oh thanks :)
MsDoodle68 2 years ago
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bleeding protestants too
LeN0Re18 2 years ago
what is your problem with Protestants? Did Martin Luther's ghost kill your puppy or something?
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago 51
what did she write mate?
bubabi 2 years ago
@GoddessofHyrule yep, and it was a labradoodle. i loved that labradoodle.
uglyduckling89 1 year ago
@GoddessofHyrule I just came on and saw your post first thing. A great laugh! and a great way to start the day!
I have no idea who you were talking to, but anyone who has a problem with the Reformation better be glad it didn't end up being a whole lot worse for the RCs! It really is intriquing how much restraint the Protestants showed after waiting in vain for centuries for the RC church to "right itself."
EastofForever 1 year ago
@GoddessofHyrule That is funny! It was more the catholic church's problem with protestants then Elizabeth's actually. Most of Parliment at the time were Catholics so the queen was in a rock and a hard place. One side she had to maintain as queen on the other side she was understanding with Mary. But when Mary's letters of treason were intercepted then Elizabeth had no choice. Before Elizabeth died she herself became protestant and remained one until her death.
countrywillneverdie 9 months ago
@GoddessofHyrule her mom, Katherine of Aragon was divorced from her husband Henry VIII and taken away from her daughter Mary. All because Henry fell in love with Anne Boleyn and the only way to get a divorce from Katherine was to split from the Catholic Church and then rose the Church of England...Katherine was the most ambitious and loving queen in history and what happened to her was a tragedy.
LucioleToujours 6 months ago
@LucioleToujours He was obsessed with Anne. Face it Henry really loved Queen Katherine, but she was six critical years older than he and had hit early menopause. Anne kept promising to H8, I will give you a SON.
No one then understood the biology of the entire matter. That is why H8 grew tired of her, as there was only one daughter with again a series of miscarriages.
molarmama5 3 months ago
@LucioleToujours Marie De Guise was the mother of Mary Queen of Scots, not Katherine of Aragon, she was the mother of Queen Mary Tudor
SALeppard 2 months ago
@GoddessofHyrule That is what most Catholics ask Buddhist. It goes like this " What did the Catholic Church do to you?" I am glad you threw it right back at them
Truthnuff 2 months ago
not tht it really makes a difference, but i thought she was executed on a high block, not a low one?
teslurv 2 years ago
Ok I'm English and had to learn about our kings and queens in school plus i'm a hughe tudors fan i also live 10 mins fromn where mary queen of scots landed when she came to ask elizabeth for help and 20 mins from where shes stayed till she was arrested so here goes Mary was the Granddaughter of Margaret Tudor who wqas the Sister of Henry 8th who was Elizabeths father ok so they arte cousins that way.
derangedinsanity24 2 years ago
im apparently related to her, but i dont know if its just a family tattle.
Jaeqo 2 years ago
Mary I was related with Elizabeth I because she's was married with Darnley. Darnley was the nephew of Elizabeth I and her legitimate heir.
Timkeiship 2 years ago
Darnley and Mary were cousins, they were both blood relations (cousins) of Elizabeth I. They were both grandchildren of Margaret Tudor, who was sister to Henry VIII, Elizabeth's father.
gapeachjessica 2 years ago
No, you're wrong. I've read in a biography, and you can google it, that Mary I was married with Darnley. She killed him for another guy; Bothwell. After the murder she married him. Darnley was a cousin of Elizabeth I, and her heir. So Mary I was the niece of Elizabeth because of the marriage. Darnley was besides an descendant of King Henry VII.
Regards
- Tim
Timkeiship 2 years ago
No, I know what I'm talking about. I've read several biographies. Mary Stuart married Darnley, but they were also cousins by blood. Darnley's name was Herny Stuart, Lord Darnley. You can even look it up on Wikipedia if you don't believe me, the info is even on there. They both had claims to the English throne because they were BOTH related BY BLOOD to Elizabeth. You're right that she did mary Bothwell after Darnley died was killed, but she and Darnley were cousins of each other and Elizabeth I.
gapeachjessica 2 years ago
Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley and Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots were both descendants of Henry VIII because they both descended from the marriages of Margaret Tudor, his sister.
gapeachjessica 2 years ago
Mary Stuart had a claim to the English throne all along, long before she married Darnley. Her uncles in France called her the "rightful" Queen of England years before she married Darnley, because of her blood ties to Margaret Tudor. She was not related to Elizabeth only through marriage, but by blood.
gapeachjessica 2 years ago
Okay, you're right that Darnley and Mary were cousins. And you're also right that Mary and Elizabeth were cousins. That wasn't described in the biography that I've read. >.>
Well, I'm sorry. But I learned something of you. (;
Timkeiship 2 years ago
LOL no problem. I'm glad to be of help.:-)
gapeachjessica 2 years ago
Another lie from the film. Mary Stuart was brought up in France, and thus had a French accent. However in this 'film' the inept director thought, 'Queen of Scots, she must have a really thick Scottish accent!' oh dear oh dear.
danny88101 2 years ago 2
LOL yes, you'd think the director would pay attention to important details like that.
gapeachjessica 2 years ago
Good point. Maybe they decided to make it easier for the audience to follow though so they wouldn't have to explain. But still i think they should have stuck to history.
ArmagonAuthor 2 years ago
true she was french so she would have had a heavy FRENCH accent. i hated that in this film. but i have to admit the execution scene was very sad.
red2138 2 years ago
IM MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS!!!
underwear90s 2 years ago
I just saw the 2 movies of elizabeth portrayed by kate balchet, i dont understand what happend, cos in the first movie another actress played her and she died there... now in this one (the golden age) she was killed because of a plot...
please someone explain
brilliantfranz 2 years ago
In the first movie it wasn't Mary of Scots that died, it was Mary of Guise, who was Mary of Scots' mother. Elizabeth reigned for 40 some odd years so there was plenty of time during her reign for Mary of Scots to grow up and become the "annointed Queen of Scotland" etc.
MitchPR08 2 years ago
she wasnt killed in a plot, she survived.
it just looked like she died
Blechoz 2 years ago
um... thats morbid
alexia513 2 years ago
no matter what you say, the UK especially England would be a better place to live if it would be catholic....
marcellanuin 2 years ago
yep, kinda like the financial state spain is in now right? and itscolonies, just like the spanish colonies or french colonies...u can say wat u want...ELizabeth and the reformation was the best thing to happen to England
orkneysnorknie 2 years ago 2
Whether you thought Mary or Elizabeth was rightful Queen of England depends on whether you believed Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon was valid. That would have depended on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. All very complicated politically and, between the 2 queens, psychologically too. I can see both sides of the argument and the personal & political dilemma both queens faced - and not just the queens but the religious & European leaders of the time. No clear cut answers.
rebrebekah 2 years ago
i love the musical score!!!! the part where she raises her head to see the throne and the music matches that is just powerful
cowboi1981 2 years ago
the spanish desroyed the english armada in 1589,9 years after the spanish armada, in the battle of counter- armada we destroyed 60 english ships and 40.000 english dead, this english defeat was bigger than the spanish armada
reinohispanico 3 years ago
When you look at the state of England with the spanish armada, it wasd a much bigger defeat.
laurenlfc48 2 years ago
and cartagena de indias? with only 6 spanish ships we destroyed a british armada of 186 ships, it was so ridiculous
reinohispanico 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA it was 146 spanish ships actually, and England did not concentrate on attacking the Spanish but protecting the England, which they did!
laurenlfc48 2 years ago
ahahah, with only 6 ships we destroyed your ridiculous armada of 186 ships,ajajajajjaja
reinohispanico 2 years ago
I'm not arguing with you, you clearly hold a 400 year old grudge, which is quite pathetic. You really make me laugh at the fact you think it was 6 ships! hahaha!
I shall not be commenting back as I have promised myself that i will not argue with someone with such little intelligence!
the question is, who would win now? haha!
laurenlfc48 2 years ago
what is your version of the battle of cartagena de indias? what happened?
reinohispanico 2 years ago
battle of cartagena de indias in 1741
SPAIN---------ENGLAND
6 ships--------186 ships
3.000 soldiers-----28.000 soldiers
6 ships lost----------50 ships lost
what happened?
reinohispanico 2 years ago
Mary Stuart was the rightful queen, Gods anointed queen and Elizabeth had her murdered. Even though it is old history Mary Stuart will always have my support.
MartinLuther105 3 years ago
Elizabeth did not want to have her killed, though she had no choice, how was she the rightful queen. Her uncle was Henry VIII, but Elizabeth's dad was Henry VIII :S
laurenlfc48 2 years ago 12
@laurenlfc48 Because in the eyes of the church Henry VIII marriage to Anne Boleyn was not legal. His first wife was still alive and living in a convent. That's why Henry was ex-communicated from the Catholic Church by the Pope. In the true line of succession Mary was indeed the rightful heir to the throne. As usual Henry made his own rules. :)
Duchessclotho 1 year ago
@Duchessclotho Yes I do know that. But logically Elizabeth was the rightful queen of England. You mau say Henry's marriage to Anne Boleyn was illegal but actually it wasn't as he broke away from the Catholic church and made his own church the Church of England and according to the rules of the Church of England you were allowed to be divorced. So therefore his mariage to Anne was not illegal as he was not married under Catholic oath.
laurenlfc48 1 year ago
how was she ever the rightful queen? Elizabeth was Henry VIII's daughter. She was next in line after Bloody Mary, not some scottish cousin.
hilljamie94 2 years ago
After 25 years of marriage, validity had nothing to do with it. Henry divorced Catherine of Aragaon simply to appease Anne Boleyn who should have remained his mistress not his wife. This questioned the succession of Elizabeth 1who under Canon Law was illegitimate. As Mary Stuart was the grand-daughter of Henry's sister and his nearest Catholic descendant after the death of Mary Tudor she was rightfully Queen of England.
LexiMur 2 years ago 2
She is only illegitimate under catholic rules. Henry turned protestant and protestants are allowed to divorce and remarry, so she was legitimate. Henry was protestant untill he died so it should be his nearest protestant descendant after Mary tudor.
hilljamie94 2 years ago
Not so, under Protestant Law, following the death of her mother, Henry himself declared Elizabeth illegitimate, stripped her of the title of Princess and removed her from the line of succession.
LexiMur 2 years ago
Didnt Katherine parr persuade henry to change that though?
hilljamie94 2 years ago 2
She did return to Court however, the law governing her illegitimacy was never revoked. The irony is that despite a long and glorious reign it is from the Queen of Scots that our present monarch is descended. 'In my end is my beginning' Mary Stuart. Pretty accurate don't you think?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Ahh i see. and yeah thats very accurate. Scary almost.
hilljamie94 2 years ago
Actually ELizabeth II isn't a direct descendant from Mary Stuart, shes just as much related to Elizabeth Tudor, because the house of Stuart ended with queen Anne
orkneysnorknie 2 years ago
Wrong on all accounts Orkneysnorknie! Mary Stuart was a much loved Queen of France and Scotland. Sadly, the treachery of her half-brother James saw to her exile and execution. Elizabeth 11 directly descends from Mary Stuart through her son James 1, his daughter Elizabeth Queen of Bohemia, her daughter Sophia Electress of Hanover and then her son George 1 of England. I would be very pleased to assist you on any other historical inaccuracy.
LexiMur 2 years ago
well you shouldnt correct anyone when you need to be corrected yourself....first of all the only reason a lot of people wanted mary queen of scotts to be queen is because she was catholic and not protestant like queen elizabeth 1. secondly, elizabeth's father was named Henry the 8th not James 1. and mary stuart was elizabeth's half sister not mother!! but she was a threat to elizabeth, so they put her in a castle in which she couldnt leave.
xxilovetobiasxx 2 years ago
xxilovetobiasxx - Read more carefully! My comment states that Mary Stuart's half-brother is not James 1st (her son) but James Hepburn. Everything you have stated after this is nonsense. Did you simply invent it?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Sorry xxilovetobiasxx, I meant to say James Stuart was Mary's half-brother. Coincidentally did you know that the Queen of Scot's legitimate claim to the English throne was because Elizabeth was a bastard?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Queen Mary certainly was NOT beloved in Scotland. They loathed her for being a Catholic and accused her of having her lover kill her hubby.
Elisabetta611 2 years ago
Being accused of complacency in her husband's murder was never proven by the Scots or the English. Bear in mind that the Scottish Act of Reformation took place the year before Mary's return from France in 1561. Her subjects and her entire council had been Catholic as had their ancestors for a 1000 years. The Lords were responsible for the malicious rumours to discredit Mary Stuart and succeeded in doing so. Are you under the impression that the whole of Scotland was Protestant during her reign?
LexiMur 2 years ago
rubbish! you think there were no indigenous Scots protestants?
Try asking them, fool.
abicheval 2 years ago
On a small point of interest, Elizabeth 1 did not rule England for 40 years nor did the the House of Stuart end with Queen Anne. Perhaps you could let us all know how our present monarch is not directly descended from Mary Queen of Scots?
LexiMur 2 years ago
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orkneysnorknie 2 years ago
Perhaps you could tell us all how Elizabeth II is not directly descended from Mary Stuart and then how the House of Stuart ended with Queen Anne?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Queen Anne was the last monarch of the house of stuart, she was also the first monarch of Britain, she reigned from 1702 1707 as queen of england and scotland and from 1707-1714 as queen of britain. she died with no surviving heirs, she was succeeded by George from the house of Hanover. So do some research before u give thumbdowns to comments. And my bad ELizabeth ruled 45 years
orkneysnorknie 2 years ago
Sweet Snork, you seem to be under the illusion that the House of Stuart ended with Queen Anne. By rightful succession, Cardinal Henry Stuart was the last heir to the throne at least a hundred years later. George 1 of Hanover being the great-grandson of James 1 was also a Stuart so I shall have to give you another thumbsdown I'm afraid. Awful isn't it? By the way, your 'bad Elizabeth' to use your words actually reigned for 44 years and was a brilliant monarch. Anything else I can help you with?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Hmm ok how come george I was the first ruler of the house of honover? How did the house of stuart continue after anne? and btw....when the fuck did i say elizabeth was a bad manorch...if u would see my favorites half of those vids are about her. U know ur stuff btw...i apologise...but explain that last questions for me. thanks
orkneysnorknie 2 years ago
George 1 came to the throne as a result of his mother and grandmother who was a Stuart princess and daughter of King James 1.. In the same way that children today take their father's surname, through his paternal heirs he became the Elector of Hanover. Queen Anne was the Protestant daughter of King James 11 whose conversion to Catholicism forced him into exile in 1688. By this time he already had a son who would have been the legitinate heir apparent. Thus, the rightful Stuart heirs continued.
LexiMur 2 years ago
@LexiMur George I (who was already over fifty and barely spoke English) came to the throne because most of the British did not want another Catholic on the throne. Unpopular as George I was, he was considered a better alternative than another Bloody Mary or a Stuart.
happybkwrm 1 year ago
@happybkwrm It is often misread that the appointment of George 1 was a complete break from the line of succession. He was in fact the grandson of Elixabeth Stuart who married the Elector of Hanover. Mary Queen of Scots was his great-great-grandmother who was herself the grandaughter of Henry V111's sister Margaret Tudor,
LexiMur 1 year ago
@LexiMur I know. They grabbed the nearest Protestant who had a claim to the throne. They didn't want a Catholic on the throne of England, even one who was a direct descendent of James I of England.
happybkwrm 1 year ago
@happybkwrm Before Anne's death it had already been passed by the Act of Settlement that George I and his heirs would inherit both kingdoms. I believe that this act changed my country forever. As the result of an inter-family Royal feud, the following fifty years were to devastate Scotland and all because of a simple matter of religion. By some strange twist of fate, Mary Stuart's legacy lives on in the form of the current Queen Elizabeth who is her direct descendant.
LexiMur 1 year ago
In answer to your third question, in your last statement but one it was you who wrote 'My bad Elizabeth'. We can not rewrite History and while Elizabeth 1 was the greatest English monarch ever to have ruled, please understand that for some Scots, whether for or against, the fate of Mary Stuart remains a very touchy subject indeed.
LexiMur 2 years ago
I meant, My bad, (as in sorry I was wrong) Elizabeth.....sorry one little comma can alter the intire meaning of sentence. Of cource it remains a touchy subject, i just think Mary's downfull was due to a chain of unfortunate events, wich started at the death of her first hubby.
orkneysnorknie 2 years ago
Yes. The House is passed through the male line. George I was of Hanover.
abicheval 2 years ago
Do I think that there were no indigenous Scots Protestants when? Did you read what I wrote Abicheval or have you answered the wrong text?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Abicheval, if the House is passed through the male line then how do you explain Mary and Anne?
LexiMur 2 years ago
Nah if Mary was the rightful queen, she would become Queen and Elizabeth wouldn't have ruled England for 40 years, and go down in history as one of the greatest monarchs, and Mary Stuart didn't have a very good track record at governing countries.
orkneysnorknie 2 years ago
@LexiMur and I hesitate to think where Anglo heritage would be if Elizabeth would not have been queen. Every English speaking person on the planet should be grateful to Elizabeth. Thank God England remained Protestant.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@LexiMur Finally somebody agrees with me! You must have read The Other Queen ^.^
kittypawz258 1 year ago
@LexiMur Elizabeth 1 was a bastard, and she was not right for the throne. As well as held Mary captive in England so she wouldn't be able to gain her throne back. Later, after Mary continuously plotted her escape from this prison, Elizabeth feared to lose her crown, and made a law that "No Roman Catholic Can Be Heir To The Throne." That was complete controversy, she shouldn't have been on the throne herself, and for fear of Mary wanting to gain back her rightful place,
kittypawz258 1 year ago
@kittypawz258, "gain back"? What are you talking about? Mary Stuart never sat on the throne of England!
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
@EyeLean5280 She was scottland's queen, and by inheritance she should have sat on the throne, but she was executed.
kittypawz258 1 year ago
@kittypawz258
In a Catholic country,that would be true. But England had become nearly completely Protestant and there was no turning back the tide. If Queen Mary had succeeded in doing that,then yes,Queen Mary Of Scots would have been the rightful heir. But times and religion had changed. Queen Elizabeth was the rightful heir according to English law and religion.
NicolaWriter 1 year ago
@NicolaWriter She was a bastard and wasn't supposed to earn the throne, she actually took it from Mary who should have inherited it by law. Elizabeth put her under house arrest for attempting to escape and executed her for bringing her army to rescue her.
kittypawz258 1 year ago
@kittypawz258
According to Catholic law,she was. But as I said,the tides was strictly in favour or Protestants. By the time Elizabeth was an adult,England had nearly completely abandoned Catholicism. She was legitimate under Protestant and English law. Nothing could be done for Queen Mary to claim the English throne. Common sense should have told her that. Queen Elizabeth was ruthless,no doubt,and that is why she ruled so long.
NicolaWriter 1 year ago
@LexiMur and execute Elizabeth, she made Mary's life harder and harder, until the day when her fear lead Mary to the Tower. And that was that. Of course William Cecil also shared a nice fat slice of this crime. He was supporting Elizabeth every step of the way, yet he turned Enlgand into a spying nation. Where wife spyed on husband and where brother spyed on sister
kittypawz258 1 year ago
@LexiMur (Bess of Hardwick, the betraying wife of George, 6th Earl of Shrewbury for example). I despise Elizabeth greatly. As well as William Cecil, for nothing could have been accomplished without him.
kittypawz258 1 year ago
Sorry, I don't understand this point.
lcferrisuk 3 years ago
Some of you people are so ignorant about history. Mary was rejected by the Scottish people and was forced to escape to England for her own life! She then plotted against the very queen who offered her safety from the people who hated her. Elizabeth agonised over what to do and actually found it incredibly difficult to have her executed but had no choice.
It's always easier to believe the Englishwoman was the bitch and the Scotswoman the victim....
get over it!
lcferrisuk 3 years ago 2
and Elizabeth did the very same thing to her sister Mary! She plotted against her sister when her sister had always been kind to her!
katharinethequene 3 years ago
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Erm, if you're referring to the Wyatt Plot, and I fear you are, can you point me in the direction of the evidence that Elizabeth was complicit? I don't think there is any firm evidence Elizabeth was ever involved in plotting against Mary.
I judge by your user name you are a Katharine of Aragon fan?!
lcferrisuk 3 years ago
Yes I am, got a problem with that?!
katharinethequene 3 years ago
Wow, woman on the edge! :o) No I don't have a problem with that at all. I admire her greatly. However, I must confess to being a HUGE Anne Boleyn fan!
lcferrisuk 3 years ago
Ive never really liked Anne(no offence) I can see she was a very intelligant and brave lady, but I just cant get passed the rather cruel and nasty things she did to various people. Yep I agree she was a very great lady(Erasmus admired her intelligance for goodness sakes! and at only 2 1/2 ambassadors were already raving about her beauty! and the bravery and courage she had and her capacity to forgive is astounding)
katharinethequene 3 years ago
Thomas Wyatt sent a letter to Elizabeth informing her of his intentions to overthrow Mary, if she didnt want the plot to happen or was involved why not inform the goverment/her sister. Another letter to the French Ambassador could be read that Elizabeth had prior knowledge of the rebellion. cont...
katharinethequene 3 years ago
Ooh could you send me the reference for the letter from Wyatt to Elizabeth? I've never seen it and would love to . Seriously!
lcferrisuk 3 years ago
I'll try and find a transcript of it and Pm it to you, It may well be in one of my books, if not i'll find one on the web.
katharinethequene 3 years ago
There are plenty of things that happened we dont have firm evedence for -eg anne boleyn definatley didnt commit the crimes she was charged with, but there is no firm evidence to support this, doesnt mean that she did those crimes
katharinethequene 3 years ago
you are wrong, mary escaped prison for her life which you did say, however she did not plot against elizabeth, people thought because she had escaped they would expect that
cgsmitherine3 3 years ago
is it true they were cousin's?
cgsmitherine3 3 years ago
yes they were cousine
MaterialTim 3 years ago
they were first cousins once removed through their mutal ancestor henry vii, james v was elizabeth's cousin, he was mary''s father
katharinethequene 3 years ago
Forget the video...The drama is in these comments!!
AinsleysRevenge 3 years ago
Such language ! but again I've rarely heard anyone being called a " stupid vagina ". Anyway as far as historical facts are concerned, the clip implies Mary was imprisoned in Eilean Donan castle. That is wrong, a quick end to Mary was not her lot, the execution was a complete disaster, or fuck up if you prefer. She suffered horrific pain, the executioner ( they were mostly drunk in those days ) took three blows with his axe to complete the decapitation.
rhubodach 3 years ago 3
In my history lesson my class were watching this movie, and i remembered the part were Mary had to be executed, nearly saw her head chopped off not fair in those days. I dont like mary cause she did a plot with someone about elizibeth
madge982 3 years ago 2
she was supposed to have a plot...it has never been proved
girlznguitarz 3 years ago
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Patriciameadows 3 years ago 3
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Why, did you know her personally? Stupid cunt posting daft comments! Get yer facts right!
BRUTUALTRUTH 3 years ago
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Patriciameadows 3 years ago
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What a thick cunt you are. You have no sense of history and facts. Go and play with your dollies, unless you are a militant lesbian!
BRUTUALTRUTH 3 years ago
Holy shit. Go see a psychiatrist, "BRUTUALTRUTH". You are such an asshole.
ritajones1 3 years ago
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If I am a asshole the your face is from when I came LOL. I saw your profile pic - what a fat faced paroxide ugly cunt you are Ughhhhh!
BRUTUALTRUTH 3 years ago
holy shit you need to go away... you are a fuckin physco.. nobody likes you or your 45 comments you leave on all these tudor videos. FAGGOT.
Gvanillavodka 3 years ago
So you have been counting my comments, eh? You fucked-up boring cunt if that is all you have to do! Go and watch your Fred Flinstone videos you dried up old lesbian useless hated whore! Ha ha you 20 year old dykey retard xxxx
BRUTUALTRUTH 3 years ago
fred flinstone rocks woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gvanillavodka 3 years ago 3
it fine to dislike someone, but don`t bring me into it...I dont dislike him, I dont know him...and hasnt Brutal truth, got just as much right to comment here....and as for then calling someone `faggot`, is beyond me!
girlznguitarz 3 years ago