The air underneath the wing is a good explanation, I too have seen it with road racing cars, but I have seen flips like this with sprintcars that are wingless. They are getting 900hp nowadays with these cars, combine that with a 108in diameter right rear tire, direct drive and only weighing 1,000lbs, these cars are truly driven on the edge.
I don't know anything much about Sprint Cars, but I know that in other racing getting your nose up a little is a great way to get flipped backwards from the drag of the air hitting the underside of the car. I've seen videos of long, low Le Mans-type cars blown backwards and into the air when they hit a bump and got the nose a tiny bit up at like 150+ mph. Of course, they have big, flat bottoms too, which might make it worse I guess.
@Mackita........ummmmm they are. Less drag = faster ...its not my opinion its facts. Ive been clocked at sharon speedway doing 120 mph entering the turn with a wing. Also been clocked wingless 127 mph. And thats just a 360 ascs patriot.
@jrock7j He did have the wing pulled back too far but front weight isnt a bad idea... wtf do u think a nose wing is for? downforce AKA WEIGHT! so he should have slid the wing forward a little and put more angle in the front to keep them down... dont degrade ppl if you yourself happens to be retarded
get off the throtal??? haha iv never drove a sprint car i race hobby stock but it looks like he stayed on the throtal the hole time. must of been very focused on the checkerd
The flip had nothing to do with the track. The top wing (and the nose wing, for that matter) are angled at such a degree to add downforce to the car without reaching a terminal point where the engine would no longer be able to combat the downforce on the wings. However, when the belly of the wings are exposed to the wind, the wings act more like airplane wings, lifting the car off of the ground instead of adding downforce. He was doomed as soon as his front wheels left the ground.
Now, im no expert... But i believe the reason it flipped wasnt because of the power, It either had soemthing to do with a tacky spot in the track, or a gust of wind lowerd the down pressure on the front of the car...
any sprint car 360 or 410 can do this on a grippy track. ive seen it at my local track when the ess sprints run there. not a full on backflip but the guy got out of the throttle in time if he hadnt he couldve gone over. sucks this guy has to buy a new wing tho.
Ride300exRed, ur a damn retard pal, the kid is 20 yrs old, hes one of the best damn sprint car drivers in the midwest, so pipedown moron unless you know what you're talking about. Kid can run the wheels off a 360 (in the vid) and a 410
he got bumped out of the groove, backed out and that made the rr dig in (not good), then he tried to recover with throttle when it was already too late. Happens late in the night if you started out running soft compounds on a loose track, then it gets glazed over after dozens of heats. this happens every satruday night somewhere, just usually not such a dramatic wheelstand. normally it's just enough to unload the fr and push you into the wall
hahaha it was not done by a televison broadcast company.
I helped out for many years with the recording of the races at my local dirt tracks and we had commentators on our videos as well, we tapped into the tracks PA system to get the commentators on our videos.
this is my home town track, I-30 speedway in little rock arkansas so dont talk shit about it and this is the short track nationals and the track was actually very good that yeat!
im with u but not all the tracks can b perfect all the time.. thats all im sayin.. my track2 some nights its the best track, others i dont even wanna go out there cuz the car might get screwed up from all the holes and bumps.... thats all im saying!
what r u guys talking about!!!!! he didn't lift in the turn, then he went 2 hard and never let up... thats y he flipped. that happens all the time at my track, not to brag but me and my bro r the best drivers there, if my bro would listen better he may be better than me!!!!!!
that jupton dude is fucking nuts. how many 16 year old kids do you know that have made the feature at the knoxville nationals. if your gonna make comments on here at least know what your talking about.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my earlier comment. Dirt racing is all with your head. A winged sprint is the hardest car to drive. He simply hooked up and weelied over the right rear. Period!!! I've spent 14 years racing on dirt. There is no such thing as too much forward bite. Throtle controle and feeling the car (right rear) is what seperates winners from wreckers. At speeds over 100 mph you have to anticipate every-thing the car is going to do, and react befor it happens. PERIOD!
amen, these kids have no idea what kind of stones it takes to sit in one of these monsters. I'm out now, but when I drove (micro's) I wouldn't even wear underwear or socks, you HAVE to feel it to own it. Sounds like you know what it's like to be in that "zone". I took a couple laps in a friends full size (AJ Wendt) many years ago and quickly decided I couldn't handle the big toys. These are monsterous unforgiving machines.
shit bub them micro sprints steering is wicked as hell. i raced micros for about 2 years at limaland and upgraded to the sprints just alot more power and alot more money. honestyly them micros sacred the shit outta me didnt like the handleing one bit so hard to run the same line
@stringbean56x man for someone that has been racing on dirt for 14 years your a dumbass! WINGED sprint cars are NOT the hardest to drive! Non winged sprint cars are by far harder than a winged sprint car.. you actually have to drive the car.. no doubt getting in any form of a sprint car winged or non takes some big balls BUT winged sprint cars practically steer them selves around the track, if the car is setup correctly that is..
@DavidW2340 Your right, wing cars dont flip in qualifying. Non wings are way harder to drive, there faster and harder to steer. So stringbean56x your way off!
he entered the turn to straight because the the other driver turned down on him kinda pinched him off and had to back off and when he got back on the gas it transfered all the wieght to the right rear.been there done that.I have been racing for many years and its still fun.
this is actually a very good track so do some research b4 u say any thing!!.... i gess u dont race! not all the tracks can b perfect all the time......
i also know Jack Dover ive attended some of his races but his father and my step dad are very good friends and look Jack has one of the best crews i have ever seen he is also a great driver
He got into the the corner tight. Spun the tire to make it turn, slid up onto the cushon, didn't anticipate hooking up, felt no need to lift untill it was too late. pulled a wheelie, no reflexes are quick enough to lift in time and pulled it over the right rear. Adding weight in the front of a dirt car is not the answer. Driving with your head is.
if any racers out there want a tip...replacing atleast your right rear tire every week, really helps a lot. also ask around at your track what a good stagger setup is. if you have a competitive motor, and you can drive, stagger and new tires are what you need to win
lol cross weight is one of the most considerable things in dirt cars. if you dont have your cross weight correct...well you get the picture. plus it doesnt help slowing down, whipping the tail end and jammin on the gas either...learn to drive monkey nuts...lol
LOL if you dont know Sprint Car Racing DONT TALK.. its all about cross weights, and nose weight NO! u want the front end to come up on the straight aways. For the wing, we move them up on turns and down on straight aways. usually i dont touch mine really but some do. Sprint is way different that ur lil street car racing.. u have a 1200 lb car with 800 of raw hp. key word SPRINT and for all the sprint car lovers Lucus Wolf GL in WoO this year!
You guys are tools. These cars weigh 1200 lbs. Their made to transfer weight. Why would you put weight in the front? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The weight goes to the rear of the car to put more of a load on the rear end to keep the tires from spinning. Putting weight in the front makes about as much sense as running the fuel cell in the front. The track is wet and hooked up, he should have flattened the wing and ran a lot of air in the rear tires.
Right on dude! Out the fuel cell in FRONT! (Most these fools with comments dont know what a cell is) roflmao! People will say anything just to hear themselves. I Just bought a micro.
@jrock7j Noseweight on dirt makes A LOT of sense. I'm sure there's already a good bit of weight in the nose to get his percentages right. All that is, is 1000 HP hookin' up and doing what's its going to always do....HAMMER! With a racetrack that tacky, airing the rear tires up wouldn't make one lap without being in the fence. That was just an unlucky break..Course the track wasn't in that good of shape either....Go easy on em man, Not everyone is a dirt king like you.
weight in the front?! The point of a winged sprint car is to have the wings create downforce which means extra weight is not needed. In this instance, the driver simply got in the throttle at the wrong time...once air is under the wing it does the opposite of its intent...which makes the car take flight. Weight is not the problem
a little too much bite
rmendel1000 2 weeks ago
damn i thought that 12 car was gonna be the one to flip
tryanoman6 4 months ago
wow talk about about a tight car....... fail
minozzHD 5 months ago
haha almost flipped from the start of the straight to the end........
hthomo22 5 months ago
@tannner43 #12 didnt flip #53 did
lilkdude8687 6 months ago
is this rc cars?,with remote control people?it sure fuckin looks like it.
green66vw 7 months ago
@green66vw no
cjN1337 1 month ago
What track is this?
TOPGUNCANADA00 7 months ago
@TOPGUNCANADA00 i-30 speedway in little rock arkansas
Joshiejosh1000 7 months ago
@tannner43 shit driver
Discofreestyle 7 months ago
@Discofreestyle if he is a shit driver then why did he win back to back a features last saturday and tonite at eagle raceway ?
ek199477 7 months ago
The air underneath the wing is a good explanation, I too have seen it with road racing cars, but I have seen flips like this with sprintcars that are wingless. They are getting 900hp nowadays with these cars, combine that with a 108in diameter right rear tire, direct drive and only weighing 1,000lbs, these cars are truly driven on the edge.
ksj4477 9 months ago
jack dover LOL what a name
chipchuckchop 9 months ago
I don't know anything much about Sprint Cars, but I know that in other racing getting your nose up a little is a great way to get flipped backwards from the drag of the air hitting the underside of the car. I've seen videos of long, low Le Mans-type cars blown backwards and into the air when they hit a bump and got the nose a tiny bit up at like 150+ mph. Of course, they have big, flat bottoms too, which might make it worse I guess.
justforever96 10 months ago
first ever wheelie drift
jasonwinback 11 months ago
you see this sort of stuff a fair bit, either hitting a rut or stood on it too hard,
karter005 1 year ago
and thats what happens when you get to much bit
ridemoto21 1 year ago
I'm not so sure that was Jack Dover driving. Does he have a brother called Philip (or Flip for short)?
skepticoz 1 year ago
where was this at
charlesmixcountynews 1 year ago
@Mackita........ummmmm they are. Less drag = faster ...its not my opinion its facts. Ive been clocked at sharon speedway doing 120 mph entering the turn with a wing. Also been clocked wingless 127 mph. And thats just a 360 ascs patriot.
dirttracker80jr 1 year ago
@jrock7j He did have the wing pulled back too far but front weight isnt a bad idea... wtf do u think a nose wing is for? downforce AKA WEIGHT! so he should have slid the wing forward a little and put more angle in the front to keep them down... dont degrade ppl if you yourself happens to be retarded
SJplaya11 1 year ago
someone really said a non wing car is faster than a winged car. thats funny
makita36 1 year ago
drop the wing down on the back to put more of a load on the back tires and this would of not happened more then likely.
yamahabansheerider 1 year ago
@yamahabansheerider
actually this would have happened alot more violently.
this shit happens from TOO MUCH grip.
stupidplants 11 months ago
@yamahabansheerider
/downforce
stupidplants 11 months ago
them jokers use to have about 800 hp no shit there gonna do that lol
MrGunth3r 1 year ago
@MrGunth3r
used to? they still run 800+ on methanol, got a friend who races a non wint with a used aluminum 410 pushin high 700s
stupidplants 11 months ago
holy shit. the block in his car must be badass
tateh22 1 year ago
get off the throtal??? haha iv never drove a sprint car i race hobby stock but it looks like he stayed on the throtal the hole time. must of been very focused on the checkerd
pearsonbowhunter 1 year ago
love you Gasman!
JaymieLynDotson 1 year ago
The flip had nothing to do with the track. The top wing (and the nose wing, for that matter) are angled at such a degree to add downforce to the car without reaching a terminal point where the engine would no longer be able to combat the downforce on the wings. However, when the belly of the wings are exposed to the wind, the wings act more like airplane wings, lifting the car off of the ground instead of adding downforce. He was doomed as soon as his front wheels left the ground.
sprintracer97 1 year ago
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sprintracer97 1 year ago
haha atleast he got the fun out of it by doing a wheelie
RiottimePMP06 1 year ago
jack dover. one hell of a sprint car driver, and a young one at that!.
adiosk8r55 1 year ago
non-winged are harder..
nickxbikes 1 year ago
he just needs to remember not to hit the nitrous until he's outta the turn next time.
gilly87S 1 year ago
so, did he try to fight himself in the pits?
Chenstrapftw 1 year ago
Now, im no expert... But i believe the reason it flipped wasnt because of the power, It either had soemthing to do with a tacky spot in the track, or a gust of wind lowerd the down pressure on the front of the car...
Sweet video though!
hedberg345 1 year ago
All I can see is dollar signs... $.$
10TC55 2 years ago
the guy who was behind the car that flipped probably shitted his pants
microracer85 2 years ago 21
@microracer85 i would think the driver of the car that flipped shit his pants too.
imjustwonderful 11 months ago
@microracer85 "shitted" is not a word. try "shat" next time
meishkia 5 months ago
an sprint car can do that running on alchohol . just think 850+ hp and only 900-1200 pounds , think of that power to weight ratio .
kylejdesj 2 years ago 3
real soft RR torsion bar !
troyselby 2 years ago 2
I like how two of my local guys get recognition. Brian Bell #23 and Kenny Coke #24W. What track is this?
jhurley2005 2 years ago
any sprint car 360 or 410 can do this on a grippy track. ive seen it at my local track when the ess sprints run there. not a full on backflip but the guy got out of the throttle in time if he hadnt he couldve gone over. sucks this guy has to buy a new wing tho.
cnycarnut 2 years ago
he probably had to buy a lot more than that the whole front of that car is totaled and a flip like that will bend shocks, bars and axles
jdchesnut 2 years ago
Or more, shitty. Kool too watch these but I know the cost.
TheRacer17 2 years ago
Freaking AWESOME!!! That's why I love Sprinters, Just AWSOME!!!
gotta laugh though, I mean, the dudes name is Jack dover!!!! Say it fast it sounds like jaked over
LOLalot
DVRblur 2 years ago
then theres some guy named preston peebles lol
AlexR47x 2 years ago
lol my name is preston but not peebles
94rocker1 2 years ago
hey man get in a sprinter and then tell me who gets jaked over. it would be you
alineracing 2 years ago
may be the awsomest thing iv ever seen
250ex85 2 years ago
he found a nice sticky part of the track ;) thats just abit of bad luck right there
kiwibushbaby 2 years ago
Holy crap, do they have a jump going into turn one!!!!! Look at the cars bouncing around.
cattlebeef 2 years ago
he was getin read y to fly :O
onydude 2 years ago
guess he had a bit too much grip at that
ryan28brooks 2 years ago
he just hooked up a lil too much
projectspillman 2 years ago
that was tremendous!!
stewpeezy72 2 years ago
what track is that at
bgdavis87 2 years ago
micros are hard enough but sprint cars ........
ahdhracing 2 years ago
It's Bill Wright and "Hot" Rod Pattison on the commentary.
DeGenerateMichael 2 years ago
i go to the same school as him.
welchert721 2 years ago
guess he had it set up wrong
Mopar5678 2 years ago
Thats Jack Dover.He signed my go-kart he's a awesome sprint car racer.hope you make it to the pro's.
good luck jack
JesusLover8833 2 years ago
must be "awesome" when he cant even use throttle control to keep the front end on the ground...
Ride300exRed 2 years ago
Ride300exRed, ur a damn retard pal, the kid is 20 yrs old, hes one of the best damn sprint car drivers in the midwest, so pipedown moron unless you know what you're talking about. Kid can run the wheels off a 360 (in the vid) and a 410
tkaedingfan 2 years ago
BTW his names Jack Dover, his sister Trish Dover also runs sprints, she runs 305's and midgets
tkaedingfan 2 years ago
he got bumped out of the groove, backed out and that made the rr dig in (not good), then he tried to recover with throttle when it was already too late. Happens late in the night if you started out running soft compounds on a loose track, then it gets glazed over after dozens of heats. this happens every satruday night somewhere, just usually not such a dramatic wheelstand. normally it's just enough to unload the fr and push you into the wall
funkyzero 2 years ago
lol
i thought these were rc cars at first
khenry1991 2 years ago
are you retarded -.-
yuhatn 2 years ago
great quality video...what make/model of camcorder was used? super camera-work! Cheers,
MuscleMaxZ1 2 years ago
Pretty sure this was done by a television broadcast company. Major clue to that: Commentators!
888BJ 2 years ago
hahaha it was not done by a televison broadcast company.
I helped out for many years with the recording of the races at my local dirt tracks and we had commentators on our videos as well, we tapped into the tracks PA system to get the commentators on our videos.
faci81 2 years ago
Also RR tyre might have been in too far.
troyselby 2 years ago
It looks to me like his RR torsion bar was too soft and/or his RR shock. Also he could have cranked the wing forward a tad. But hey what do I know.
troyselby 2 years ago
Guess the track was tacky that night
brown55061 2 years ago
stood on it's dick
jasonphillipjames 2 years ago
Talk about the car hooking up!
3bar 2 years ago 3
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EWSC37 2 years ago
this is my home town track, I-30 speedway in little rock arkansas so dont talk shit about it and this is the short track nationals and the track was actually very good that yeat!
jchism21 2 years ago
im with u but not all the tracks can b perfect all the time.. thats all im sayin.. my track2 some nights its the best track, others i dont even wanna go out there cuz the car might get screwed up from all the holes and bumps.... thats all im saying!
NuggetMan17 2 years ago
what r u guys talking about!!!!! he didn't lift in the turn, then he went 2 hard and never let up... thats y he flipped. that happens all the time at my track, not to brag but me and my bro r the best drivers there, if my bro would listen better he may be better than me!!!!!!
NuggetMan17 2 years ago
damn thats some power my car cant even get that much power i barely get mine off the ground.
troubleduo2 2 years ago
that guy needs to learn how to control the car thats just getting on the pedal to early and to hard.
mikeyparksy 3 years ago
that jupton dude is fucking nuts. how many 16 year old kids do you know that have made the feature at the knoxville nationals. if your gonna make comments on here at least know what your talking about.
jimbo69imca 3 years ago
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EWSC37 3 years ago
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my earlier comment. Dirt racing is all with your head. A winged sprint is the hardest car to drive. He simply hooked up and weelied over the right rear. Period!!! I've spent 14 years racing on dirt. There is no such thing as too much forward bite. Throtle controle and feeling the car (right rear) is what seperates winners from wreckers. At speeds over 100 mph you have to anticipate every-thing the car is going to do, and react befor it happens. PERIOD!
stringbean56x 3 years ago 3
I was hoping someone would tell these retards that. I haven't spent 14 years on dirt but i knew that (I have only raced 2 years)
amr233 3 years ago
amen, these kids have no idea what kind of stones it takes to sit in one of these monsters. I'm out now, but when I drove (micro's) I wouldn't even wear underwear or socks, you HAVE to feel it to own it. Sounds like you know what it's like to be in that "zone". I took a couple laps in a friends full size (AJ Wendt) many years ago and quickly decided I couldn't handle the big toys. These are monsterous unforgiving machines.
funkyzero 2 years ago
shit bub them micro sprints steering is wicked as hell. i raced micros for about 2 years at limaland and upgraded to the sprints just alot more power and alot more money. honestyly them micros sacred the shit outta me didnt like the handleing one bit so hard to run the same line
ytizzol21 2 years ago
@stringbean56x man for someone that has been racing on dirt for 14 years your a dumbass! WINGED sprint cars are NOT the hardest to drive! Non winged sprint cars are by far harder than a winged sprint car.. you actually have to drive the car.. no doubt getting in any form of a sprint car winged or non takes some big balls BUT winged sprint cars practically steer them selves around the track, if the car is setup correctly that is..
DavidW2340 1 year ago
@DavidW2340 Your right, wing cars dont flip in qualifying. Non wings are way harder to drive, there faster and harder to steer. So stringbean56x your way off!
margarettapolarbears 1 year ago
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dover is a non drivin bitch
jupton198806 3 years ago
wow! it looket liked he jumped on the gas a little too hard exiting th turn
nickgathen 3 years ago
he entered the turn to straight because the the other driver turned down on him kinda pinched him off and had to back off and when he got back on the gas it transfered all the wieght to the right rear.been there done that.I have been racing for many years and its still fun.
jenniferkbowman 3 years ago
lol
racer36abc 3 years ago
holy crap. the wings had a big part in how the crash ended
Pilot5000 3 years ago
that looks like a shitty track.
vrbka1 3 years ago
this is actually a very good track so do some research b4 u say any thing!!.... i gess u dont race! not all the tracks can b perfect all the time......
NuggetMan17 2 years ago
i'm talking about the whole track in general: shit
vrbka1 2 years ago
cooooooooooooooooooool!
GoMarkGoPack 3 years ago
Jack Flip Dover
DarinFerreira 3 years ago 3
i know jack dover even when he was in a minny sprint
MOOSE272414 3 years ago
i also know Jack Dover ive attended some of his races but his father and my step dad are very good friends and look Jack has one of the best crews i have ever seen he is also a great driver
moparman26 3 years ago
i know him
BADGIRLRACER 3 years ago
He got into the the corner tight. Spun the tire to make it turn, slid up onto the cushon, didn't anticipate hooking up, felt no need to lift untill it was too late. pulled a wheelie, no reflexes are quick enough to lift in time and pulled it over the right rear. Adding weight in the front of a dirt car is not the answer. Driving with your head is.
stringbean56x 3 years ago
shut up
racer36abc 3 years ago
if any racers out there want a tip...replacing atleast your right rear tire every week, really helps a lot. also ask around at your track what a good stagger setup is. if you have a competitive motor, and you can drive, stagger and new tires are what you need to win
hotrodder000 3 years ago
Whoever said they need weight in the front just go make some cookies with your mommy and leave the racin to the real guys. OOOORAH
chevymandan 3 years ago
lol cross weight is one of the most considerable things in dirt cars. if you dont have your cross weight correct...well you get the picture. plus it doesnt help slowing down, whipping the tail end and jammin on the gas either...learn to drive monkey nuts...lol
hotrodder000 3 years ago
LOL if you dont know Sprint Car Racing DONT TALK.. its all about cross weights, and nose weight NO! u want the front end to come up on the straight aways. For the wing, we move them up on turns and down on straight aways. usually i dont touch mine really but some do. Sprint is way different that ur lil street car racing.. u have a 1200 lb car with 800 of raw hp. key word SPRINT and for all the sprint car lovers Lucus Wolf GL in WoO this year!
FireChkn87 3 years ago
you jrockk7j u are a tool.
racer11king 3 years ago
have u ever met jrock7j or seen his resume? if not, shut the fuck up!
dhprojekts 3 years ago
You guys are tools. These cars weigh 1200 lbs. Their made to transfer weight. Why would you put weight in the front? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The weight goes to the rear of the car to put more of a load on the rear end to keep the tires from spinning. Putting weight in the front makes about as much sense as running the fuel cell in the front. The track is wet and hooked up, he should have flattened the wing and ran a lot of air in the rear tires.
jrock7j 3 years ago 16
jrock knows what hes talkin about! if its the same guy that i've heard of, hes won many BIG races!
fishercollin 3 years ago
Right on dude! Out the fuel cell in FRONT! (Most these fools with comments dont know what a cell is) roflmao! People will say anything just to hear themselves. I Just bought a micro.
TheRacer17 2 years ago
@jrock7j Noseweight on dirt makes A LOT of sense. I'm sure there's already a good bit of weight in the nose to get his percentages right. All that is, is 1000 HP hookin' up and doing what's its going to always do....HAMMER! With a racetrack that tacky, airing the rear tires up wouldn't make one lap without being in the fence. That was just an unlucky break..Course the track wasn't in that good of shape either....Go easy on em man, Not everyone is a dirt king like you.
bigmrclean 1 year ago
@jrock7j thank you, somebody who knows what they're talking about
nolangreen 1 year ago
weight in the front?! The point of a winged sprint car is to have the wings create downforce which means extra weight is not needed. In this instance, the driver simply got in the throttle at the wrong time...once air is under the wing it does the opposite of its intent...which makes the car take flight. Weight is not the problem
stevenfa33 4 years ago 3
The title should be changed to "Sprint Car with No Nose"
Romero101 4 years ago
weight in front of car might help .... just a thought
dirtracer23a 4 years ago
all the weight is in the front the damn motor sits their
americanracer36 4 years ago 2
Aww...that's too bad for Jack Dover.
ryantunks 4 years ago
yea but not as easy...put wieght in the front angle the wing down more
maddroxide72 4 years ago
damn put some weight in the front
racerjake24 4 years ago
thats just a case of too much forward bite
outlawtoyou3 3 years ago
there just isnt enough weight in the front
Getchafuckinpull 4 years ago
even with weight in the front they wiil still do that
cbm2021 4 years ago
WOW
HalloweenKingDiamond 4 years ago