Gepard GM6 Lynx - Anti-material rifle - 3

[domhoek]

Anti-anyag puska :D

[felattila]

....only 11kg... supersonic...Wd record 8) Üdv.

[MGlBlaze]

It's an anti-materiel rifle. Yes, materiel. Comes from the french word meaning 'millitary equipment', as opposed to 'personnel'. "Anti-Material" is actually incorrect.

Though I will say that how the rifle absorbs some extra recoil is fairly interesting, though I would imagine it might be prone to mechanical failure...

[Brementuning007]

D:

recoiless!!

[kobuksonhwacha]

God, I've seen .308 kick worse in some hands! Either the shooter is excellent, the rifle is excellent, or both XD

[NIDORAX]

this one must have kicked like a mule

[JangosSoulja]

The barrel can be pushed back into the body of the gun, so it can easily fit into a vehicle.

When you get out, you just push a button and the barrel slides out and ready fire in a second! This is a HUGE advantage compared to other sniper rifles. Plus, there is a possibility to add a headcam and connect it to the rifle with a wire, so that you will see what your scope sees, and you can fire it from the hip. It makes me proud to be a hungarian :)

[Bulgarboy1]

Very good weapon.

[486kyle]

Love the long recoil action. I thought the M6 was in 14.5x114, a MUCH larger round than .50 russian....

[13thmistral]

@486kyle the m6 is, but not the gm6

apperantly those are 2 diferend guns

[spriteofbones]

Pointless gun if you ask me.

You're not supposed to shoot while walking around like in a friggn urban gang clash. If you are to dance around with this gun, in close quarters you gonna be bested by these using appropriate weapons for that matter. Anyone with a mere M16 would knock you dead before you could say 'hi'.

[hungaryrulz]

@spriteofbones He was only demonstrating the mobility and the very little kick this anti-material rifle has. Its main use is for snipers.

[PoweredByNamahage]

自衛隊に１００丁欲しい！

[toro199999]

beats barrett m82 because:

weighs less(10kg while the m82 is 14kg)

fires 12.7 nato or russian while barrett only fires nato rounds(russian is better in armor piercing)

way shorter than the barrett (110cm while the m82 is 150cm)

less recoil tha a barrett!! the irony here is the barrett overweight is to cut down on recoil..the only drawback is the mag which holds 5 rounds half of which the barrett holds..is not important since it's a sniper rifle meaning the first round is all what you need!!

[thetrialshot]

@toro199999 ofcourse this is better than barret in assault or most of the battle because you can carry it anywhere

while barret is just designed for 1km - 2km headshot

[FuriousPumpkin]

@toro199999 reliability would be a big factor though those moving parts and everything.

[toro199999]

@FuriousPumpkin we'll gonna have to wait and see..only time is going to be the judge in that..there's not that much of moving parts..i think only the barrel "telescopes" into the handguard and receiver..and the whole mechanism rests on springs housed in the buttstock to reduce the recoil..the same moving parts as the barrett m82..but this is a bullpup..meaning the same barrel length but with a compact size

[Helge129]

@toro199999 It's actually an anti-material rifle, No a sniper rifle.

On the other hand, it's made to snipe tanks :P

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 also this thing is even less accurate then the barrett m82a1

its more a urban warfare dmr in heavy .50 caliber rounds

1M2 groups at 1.5km, i just can say thats accurate

the barrett m82a1 has in standard older ammo 2 moa at 1.6km btw

[toro199999]

@13thmistral barrett uses fifty caliber boat-tailed bullet as a standerd ammunition..this bullets are less affected by drag and inertia forces "in america even standard M2 browining ammunition is well made"..you want to make a real comparison between the m82 and the gepard you'll have to shoot both in the same "match grade" ammunition and shooting them both at the same time to eliminate weather calculations from both results..see what MOA each rifle give at the max range

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 the standard ammo for it depends from country to coutry who uses it

match grade, then both rifles will need their own cartridge if you realy want it match graded

but i get what you mean i think

verry low drag bullets

well, weither its the ammo or the rifle, it must be verry bad ammo to talk abot a decent accurate rifle having 1m groupings at 1.5km

and for doeing such shit for the record, you woudnt expect them to take cheap ammo

[berlin128g]

@13thmistral i think this was not desinged as a long range sniper rifle (there are others for that porpuse in the gepard family like the M4 whit 14,5*115 round) it is i think want to give fire power to the troops between 500-800 m because the assault rifles cannot fire accuratly at that distance. BTW the higest confirmed hit on a man sized target is 1,6 km

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g yea, i agree kinda

you forgot to mention anti-meteriel purposes...at 800m

otherwise you just coud choose a 7.62mm rifle cartridge firng sniper rifle

no, it was almost 2 miles with an l115a3, if youre indeed talking about the longuest distance kill

[berlin128g]

@13thmistral sorry but i forget to wright there the higest confirmed whit Gepárd GM6. and ofcourse in antimateriel porpuse

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g realy ?

can you send me a link with an article about that one on the internet in a personal mesage ?

[berlin128g]

@13thmistral it is not super secret watch?v=l1_aCmV0vu0 from 3:46

[berlin128g]

@berlin128g but in the interview said the usable range is over 2km

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g sad, i dont understand it :(

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g dude, that shit there tells nothing

sorry i didnt watched the time you gave me

but holly shit

a human sized target is not 1m2 wide an high

make some kind of plate of 1m2

i think my desk is 1.5 times smaller, but thats it

maybe with that moa you hit persons with some luck

and engines and motorblocks and shit...

but an average human accurate under everyday conditions ?

hell no

[berlin128g]

@13thmistral i dont know you are know what is the "area" 1m2 is not sohuge, the calculation of the "area" is T=a*b in this case 1m*1m so let say an avarage human is 180cm(1,8m) high and dont know maybe 70 cm (0,7m)wide that means avarage an 1,26m2 (1,8*0,7=1,26) so an 1m2 target is avaragely smaller than a man

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g right indeed

but then youre including the area at the legs

and that the legs are spreaded and the space between the legs is also human flesh

its not totaly wrong, but onlogic if you know that by most sniper schools or trainings they only include everything from the head to the torso

but no limps annyhow

and all that is calculated if the person os straight on the bullets flightpath

windage, the fact they dont realy stand in such an ideal pose and the shit about the legs...

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g generally, i think the area on what they aim is generally less then (70cmx70cm=4200cm2=

42dm2=)0.42m2 if iam not mistaken

btw, they do accuracy calculations by shooting groops and often calculate moa on the hand of that

i dont say its imposible to kill people at 1.5km range with this shit, but thats still the accuracy of an bolt action 7.62x51mm

kinda

sertainly less then a decent .338lm rife

[berlin128g]

@13thmistral yes ok but the m82 has got officially 1,829m effective range so the 1600m effective range from a weapon what is designed for 600-800m is good and also lighter 11 kg vs 14 also it is better in muzzle velocity 1114 vs 853 and also has got longer barrel 930 vs 737 mm yes i has got les MOA 1,3 compared to 1 but if they really want to use a sniper variant they will use forexaple the M-1 variant what has got 0,7 MOA i think this weapon is more practical than an M82

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g 1800m efective range against what ?

anny rifle above .49 calibe, then there is a question if they are talking about anti-meteriel targets or human sized targets

i exualy beleve with the normal ball ammo it hits people accurate at 1.6km and other targets at 1.8km

also said to have submoa's with match grade ammo(less then 1moa)

i dont agee, sertainly not this being compared with the newer barrett m107a1

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g if i gonna calculate 1m2 groups at 1600m in moa, i dont think it will be verry great

if i try to calculate it out 1 moa probably means for a .50bmg at 1600m 20 inch groups

20 inch is like 500cm2/5dm2 groups at 1.6km

though thats a true gamble, the fact there is no moa data on that rifle says something

i find only info about this rifle being something when portabillity is putted with heavy fire capabillity above accuracy

this is a .50bmg dmr,...

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g ...

is that a bad thing ? no it isnt

is this an ideal standard anti materiel-sniper rifle ? sertainly not

is this an ideal rifle for urban warfare fights and having anti-meteriel targets ? sertainly

for urban warfare agains heavy armoured human targets ?not the best, but it coud do

is this my favorit sniper rifle ?

no, its honestly not even in my personal top 20

ps: gepard m1 ?

yea, that one is indeed great shit

but a bit heavy compared with an barrett m99 :)...

[13thmistral]

@berlin128g and when that one was out,(m99), it was the most accurate rifle of its time

and now, for the ones who also coud do without a .50bmg or a .416 barrett rifle, but still want accuracy...

Lobaev svl

never thought the russians woud make something that accurate

sorry dude, but the only rifle that woud be in my top 10 if i found more info about it woud be the m3 or m6

though one of those shoud be or more accurate or much more lighter then the istiglal IST 14.5x114mm

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 not if talking about accuracy

1m2 plate at 1500m

a normal sized human is not that wide for sure

and sertainly the area most snipers are trained to hit is not that big

this thing will not be realy efective against personel at ranges shorter then 1500m

and that for a .50bmg

can you imagen ?

my gues is that the efective range against humans is then like less then 1.2km

this is a special purpose sniper rifle, a verry special .50bmg

this thing woud not the rifle you...

[13thmistral]

@13thmistral woud want to have for counter sniping dude

this is like .50bmg squad rifle

if there is a verhicle that needs to be stopped, or people taking cover behind concrete walls, the one of a squad with this gun will solve the problem

but if a sniper is trying to kill you beyond 1.2km and you have this...

i woud say, take cover, and stay where you are

and you probably woud pray for a better .50bmg rifle

even if its an quite unaccurate barrett m107a1(cq)

[toro199999]

@13thmistral hi my friend..50 cal is forbidden to be used against humans but NATO do it any way..its an antimaterial rifle aganst machinary and cars..when BMG bullet hit engine block its game over for a car..and you're right they both are quite accurate

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 the internet only can confirm rumors, but there are no fact and when the info is getting detailed, its getting confusing geneva convention, us army,....

i honestly dont think this rifle is accurate for its class you know, like i said

now, even if you talk about bigger targets then a human, the barrett m107 will still have the advantage against most anti-materiel sniper rifles beyond 1500m

the gepard gm6 will hit the car for sure,...

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 the barrett m82a1 will hit the engine block for sure(decent conditions)

also, if you kinda calculate 1m2 plates being hitted at 1500m to a moa at 100 yards, you get atleast more then 2moa

that woud indeed make the gun hitting helicopters and shit, like it is claimed to do

i exualy meant to say they are both(barrett m82a1 and this gun) inaccurate

for a .50 bmg rifle that is

[toro199999]

@13thmistral my friend anti material guns are not that accurate since the first time they saw battle "in ww1 the german tank abwehr gewehr" as their target "not human" is always big "first tanks now APC's and cars" if you want accuarcy in big chunky round look for a gun called "cheytac m200" it fires .408 cheytac which has higher terminal velocity and momentem than the 50BMG despite being smaller

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 wtf do some fucking research you stupid idiot

those ww1 rifles witch big calibers and shit where not anti-materiel sniper rifles but anti-tank rifles

you cant compare those with anti-materiel sniper rifles

most anti-materiel sniper rifles are build within the mind of hitting personel also

and the bigger ones...

well, those are more special special purpose(20mm rifles),(this gun is also verry special purpose becuse of the lack of accuracy) are not that much used

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 also, not every .50bmg is realy 100% worser then the .408ct rounds when being compared

take for example the 750grain hornady a-max

and further, i must admit whenever they talk about a 14.5mm,20mm or something else having a range of 1600m or 3km, tey are indeed always talking about ranges against anti-materiel targets

but .50bmg rifles, it sertainly depends on it

accurate ones, McMillan TAC-50, AI AX50, Barrett M99,...

those single shot rifles are not much....

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 for millitary purposes, i must admit that

but those mag-fed bolt-action sniper rifles

with the rounds they are fed when being in millitary service, 1moa and less

at the range this gun is shooting 1m2 plates, those are still able to hit humans efectively

this gun, is like i said already several times, a squad used weapon, it woud be used for urban warfare, and as alternative for something better when being airdroped

McMillan TAC-50, if that gun was as accurate as this...

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 gun, it woud never have been a standard sniper rifle

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 now please, dont mix up ww1 anti-tank rifles with shit they use today

those old guns didnt even have a scope

its like saying the mosin nagant cna be compared with what they call sniper rifles today

[toro199999]

@13thmistral the solothurn s18 had a scope "8x" and the cartridge was 20x138B..one phosphorus bullet can set enemy bunker to fire..a finnish tank killing team "they used the lahti l39 chambered in the same round" to shoot down a flying aircraft, try doing that with any gun today and i'll give u a medal! they're more than comparable

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 exeptions like they exist

besides, today, you dont find a 20mm easy that is not bolt-action

the firerate of that gun is higher, thus increasing the hitchance against such types of targets

besides, the flying aircraft of today....

there are even helicopters being faster, not mentioning them being more armoured then those plains of those times

[toro199999]

@13thmistral fire rate please, the solothurn s18/1100 fired 20x138mm in FULL AUTO..it was pretty accurate, look it up in google or something i know what i'm talking about..an stop calling me an idiot i know about guns more than any one i've ever seen, hell i make my own guns and ammunition..be polite

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 i was talking about the lahti l39...

is that one also fully automatic then ?

didnt knew that

if its so, full auto...

unique gun i woud say, but still you cant compare all those guns i say, with the guns of modern days

sertainly not now youre gonna say it full auto to ?!

yea its accurate i read that

and a heavy bitch to

also, the accuracy of today compared to that of more then 50 years ago...

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 i seriously think it coud be posible they woud say the barrett m82a1 firing surplus ammo and having only iron sights is the most accurate thing they ever saw :)

youre onw guns and ammunition ? :O

wildcates or handloads ?

[toro199999]

@13thmistral handloads..wildcats is custom made by the original ammunition manufacturer..i'm doing some work on producing the whole bullet and some secret projects like caseless, pneumatic actuated and APFSDS i cant tell you any more it's secret stuff if i tell u i'll have to kill you!

[13thmistral]

@toro199999 a wildcat is a custom round, mostly based on an other round isnt it ? :/

like some .50bmg's were wildcated to become .416 barrett cartridges :)

caseless like the hk g11 ?

pneumatic like in airguns ?

and then those kind of rounds they use in tanks, howitzers and shit to blow things up like bunkers ?

[alalala28]

Sagittis Hungarorum ;-)

[TheLovesz]

ok. és a találatok?

[GM6Lynx]

Nezd meg a masik videon latszik

Gepard GM6 Lynx - Anti-material rifle - 2

100 meter

[odacir64]

I want one.

[wingedlightning]

@odacir64 Me too