@0906peter I would say that democratic [republic] describes the type of republic that the USA is, the country is primarily a republic It would be more correct to foremost consider it a republic, than it would a democracy.
WTH have you been. We have been a 4rd world country ever since we started allowing American companies to ship all are jobs to foreign shores. American produces nothing, America has the capacity to make nothing, and America now is almost totally dependent on goods and services on the most degenerate of the world. And in that sense America is fallen as Rome had. I doubt it will collapse but short of a 2nd revolutionary war, it will never again be worthy of its previous glory.
Ingram: The U.S. remains the number one manufacturer in the world. China is predicted to overcome that lead in five or six years. That still leaves the U.S. as the number two manufacturer.
"Production of real goods, i.e., manufacturing, accounts for a slightly larger share of GDP today than it did in the allegedly golden days of the 1940s or 1950s. And thats a larger share of a substantially bigger economy."
In a Socialist economy, the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. On the other hand, in a communist society, there is no centralized government - there is a collective ownership of property and the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
THEY ARE TURNING THIS COUNTRY INTO A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY! WATCH AND SEE!!
This video shows one of the many reasons why our political system is failing all of us. Thank you for making it.
Please continue to give us, the citizens of the US, the documented transparency in government we are promised before each election but never receive from our elected representatives on BOTH sides of the aisle.
Here's to open and honest government! May it soon reign!
Yay for archives of congressional activities. Information is power!
This is what happens when you vote people in to government who want to "change" the very constitution our country was founded upon. The people in this country really do not have a voice...very sad to see out country falling down hill like this. Corruption at it's finest.
I watch a number of news shows on both sides just to see what people are reporting and I find it quite disturbing that I only saw this on FOX. I mean... Isn't this important for any media outlet to show? This isn't just a Republican vs. Democrat thing. This is a slap in the face to all of us.
really unbelieveable! the person who is questioning is being very reasonble and murtha just shoots him down over and over never answering the question to begin with!
are you kidding me! why the heck is this guy still standing? how about as americans we just say..o.k. you are done go home we will find someone else to do your job..........it is not only our right but our responsibility as americans...
Murtha is a disgrace and nothing but a crook. Some may recall that in the November election last year, this lowlife called his own constituents "racists" and "rednecks". Yet he was still re-elected? I submit that PA voters are at fault for re-electing this arrogant crook! And those of us who served in the USMC certainly don't take any pride in John "show me the money" Murtha! :(
Well Murtha is the one that told George Bush in 2001 that Fannie and Freddie were "fine institutions" and were well run and didn't need any oversight. The man has totally lost touch with reality and I am embarrassed for the people that keep re-electing him. They are idiots.
while we were sleeping....this country has gotten flushed down the toilet. We AMERICA need to wake up & pay attention to our politics & get involved somehow - WE need to create our OWN hope & change....
This is not Democracy It's Dictatorship! This guy needs to be Impeached! I don't care if he is DEM or REPUB! America stand up against this OUTRIGHT disregard to the Constitution!
Standard philosophy for liberals. Rule of law, procedure, limited government don't matter. Just steam roll everyone to get what you want -yep, that's liberals.
I totally agree. This is definately how they will pass the health care reform bill. So scarry. This is why we all need to band together and stand up and not take this sort of blatent disregard of the constitution and rules of parliamentary procedure.
This man's actions clearly demontrates his abuse of his position and power.
One wonders why he didn't hold the meeting in his office since the outcome was predetermined before he even asked for a vote. After some of his other comments and actions, why is he still allowed on the floor. He obviously doesn't care about "we the people" one bit.
This is like watching a movie to show how corrupt the chairman is...OH WAIT this Washington DC 2009...Murtha should be impeached - he is a transparent powermonger in this clip
the USA is a republic, not a democracy. your rights cannot be taken away, by a majority vote. stop watching TV, retards. that's why your dumb ass thinks: USA=democracy.
I know it's been said but I must as well. This is a republic. I fight to restore the republic, democracy has a very small place in this republic, and it has got out of hand.
Stop lying. 1st of all, if in reference to fascism, you are remarking on the National Socialist German Workers Party, or Nazis, then I would remind you that at the highest levels, the Nazis were not Christian & wanted a new age religion to one day supplant Christianity. Moreover, I would remind you, that Bush masturbated in a coffin & then pledged allegiance to Satan. Moreover, he & his fellow 'Christians' engage in ancient occult ceremonies, in which children are mock sacrificed to a stone owl.
These men can continue the pretense of being Christian, while worshipping stone owls, and the pretense of being right wing, while overseeing huge increases in spending and size of government, but the reality is that they are neither Christian nor right wing. This is a smear campaign against the very people who are steaming mad about these intrusions on what was once democracy.
Correction: Constitutional "Representative" Republic. The word "democracy" doesn't appear once in the Constitution for the united states of America nor in ANY constitution for the individual state republics. It's not found in the Declaration of Independence, either. What's more, our founding fathers DESPISED so called Democracy:
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
this happened a lot when the Republicans were in control of the house and senate as well. It seems both parties get off on being in power and take whatever opportunity they can to abuse that power and play unfairly during important votes and introduction of resolutions. I watched a couple examples of this behavior over the years with both parties.
Benedict Arnold was a "hero" and a general during the American Revolutionary War who originally fought for the American Continental Army, but switched sides to the British Empire. As a general still on the American side, he obtained command of the fort at West Point, New York, and attempted to surrender it to the British. How Murtha-esque! Elect Bill Russell 2008!!!
The single, decisive reason for this kind of politics is our twisted & bitter, partisan, back-stabbing, undemocratic two-party system! When my fellow Americans wake up and realize that the politics won't change if we just vote republicans or democrats into the Congress? We need a multi-party system, we need a democratic republic based on proportional representation & parliamentarian principles with Prime Minister etc. Otherwise it will be all the same for decades, centuries to come believe me.
A choice is selecting an experience based on ones own awareness and intent only. You don't CHOOSE who's in charge when there are always only two sides. You select, and then then it's more like settling at best. Course the entire system is set up so it takes what, 10+ million to campaign, effectively ensuring no actual average demographic will ever be in any sort of power.
The kicker is I can't imagine how to change things. No clue at all.
Roberts Rules of Order calls that a Chair/Parlimentarian make such a gesture (ie. in the eyes of Chair the ____s do have it)... however when a recorded vote is requested, it must be recorded and when Division is called - it is granted.
I think its obvious he is avoiding a proper count. There wouldn't be debate about it if he weren't and he thought he had enough votes.
Of course, nothing says he other side doesn't pull the same sort of thing when they were in the majority.
This sort of thing is important because it determines which campaign contributors get to loot the public treasury and such things have to be decided fairly.
This is all in line with standard parliamentary procedure. Even though the 'yea' votes were louder than the 'nay' votes, the nays may still have come from a majority. Also, being "awesome in math" has little to do with this very standard legislative practice. The counting of "200 votes in 5 seconds" happens during most every legislative session.
This is the "open-mindedness" of Liberalism.
This is the "tolerance" of Liberalism.
This is the "fairness" of Liberalism.
This is Liberal Fascism in action.
BTW, this is why CSPAN was started by a Conservative.
thomaserossi 11 months ago
WOW
PaulGrantDesigns 1 year ago 21
typical democrat pushing through their agenda without support
edawg00 1 year ago 15
wau! This is USA, the greatest democracy ?
marestejar 1 year ago 4
@marestejar
I don't know who calls the USA the greatest democracy, but I know I never have :P
Shadowgandor 10 months ago
What was the vote about?
DrSidel 1 year ago
we arent a democracy, we are a constitutional republic. some people need to do their homework.
nintendude60 1 year ago 19
@nintendude60 a republic is an indirect democracy
hellojulie 1 year ago
Schwarzenegger, only you can save America!
Churruminonian 1 year ago
Wow! Murtha is nuts
Suchonga 1 year ago 5
america = constitutional republic
not democracy
*majority rule*
Canada = democracy
twisted45 1 year ago 8
@twisted45
Canada is a democracy, in the form of a constitutional monarchy. (Parliament has the real power, not the queen)
The US is a democracy, in the form of a constitutional republic.
Different, but both democracies.
0906peter 1 year ago 2
@0906peter I would say that democratic [republic] describes the type of republic that the USA is, the country is primarily a republic It would be more correct to foremost consider it a republic, than it would a democracy.
AmericaDevil 1 year ago
that is unbelievable. i would have had a hard time sitting in my seat if i was there.
collegenathan 1 year ago 22
WTH have you been. We have been a 4rd world country ever since we started allowing American companies to ship all are jobs to foreign shores. American produces nothing, America has the capacity to make nothing, and America now is almost totally dependent on goods and services on the most degenerate of the world. And in that sense America is fallen as Rome had. I doubt it will collapse but short of a 2nd revolutionary war, it will never again be worthy of its previous glory.
Ingram091 1 year ago 3
Ingram: The U.S. remains the number one manufacturer in the world. China is predicted to overcome that lead in five or six years. That still leaves the U.S. as the number two manufacturer.
No idea how you could be so misinformed.
harlon57 1 year ago
You are wrong. Get your facts straight:
"Production of real goods, i.e., manufacturing, accounts for a slightly larger share of GDP today than it did in the allegedly golden days of the 1940s or 1950s. And thats a larger share of a substantially bigger economy."
Pinyl 1 year ago
In a Socialist economy, the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. On the other hand, in a communist society, there is no centralized government - there is a collective ownership of property and the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
THEY ARE TURNING THIS COUNTRY INTO A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY! WATCH AND SEE!!
POPPERCAT 2 years ago 15
Is anyone familiar with the parliamentary procedure for ousting Speakers?
braingear 2 years ago 26
This video shows one of the many reasons why our political system is failing all of us. Thank you for making it.
Please continue to give us, the citizens of the US, the documented transparency in government we are promised before each election but never receive from our elected representatives on BOTH sides of the aisle.
Here's to open and honest government! May it soon reign!
Yay for archives of congressional activities. Information is power!
LeelaSavage 2 years ago 28
Hey, why isn't this being replayed on C Span so that others may share in the farce of Democratic leadership in the House of Representatives.
ocanomekim 2 years ago 26
The fact that our comments need approval for this video is in and of itself hilarious...free speech. Ha!
PlsPeopleThink 2 years ago 36
my highschool ffa parly team could do a better job then that speaker
jackboyhistory 2 years ago 28
John Murtha is very corrupt. This is a perfect endorsement of TERM LIMITS!
DrMayte 2 years ago 421
This is what happens when you vote people in to government who want to "change" the very constitution our country was founded upon. The people in this country really do not have a voice...very sad to see out country falling down hill like this. Corruption at it's finest.
deltaleader71 2 years ago 363
this video makes me sick!
watkinsguy 2 years ago 261
I watch a number of news shows on both sides just to see what people are reporting and I find it quite disturbing that I only saw this on FOX. I mean... Isn't this important for any media outlet to show? This isn't just a Republican vs. Democrat thing. This is a slap in the face to all of us.
Tydyjav 2 years ago 268
Are u kidding me? We just let this happen.
nissan4yall 2 years ago 192
Murtha needs to go. What arrogant stupidity!
jonnybb1 2 years ago 71
Just goes to show you, it's NOT who you vote for, BUT who counts the votes that really matters...
PupSterNH 2 years ago 73
They are all crooks.
ddomingue 2 years ago 55
And meanwhile... The media is still ripping republicans. Don't tell me the media is not biased.
Tydyjav 2 years ago 66
Those who want John Murtha out of congress.. Say Aye!!!!
LiveThroughGarbage 2 years ago 65
really unbelieveable! the person who is questioning is being very reasonble and murtha just shoots him down over and over never answering the question to begin with!
gramnanny 2 years ago 49
What a God damned disgrace. This man deserves nothing less but impeachment. I hope there's real outrage against this in Pennsylvania.
ErikNikolai 2 years ago 47
These are the same jerks who are going to cram Government run health care down our necks.
ericso333 2 years ago 47
We are out of control--this JOKER needs to be voted out
nickdes1977 2 years ago 47
Funny that they mention the constitution in this video because it's plain and obvious that Murtha couldnt care less about it.
What a total disgrace this guy is.
thorn35 2 years ago 50
are you kidding me! why the heck is this guy still standing? how about as americans we just say..o.k. you are done go home we will find someone else to do your job..........it is not only our right but our responsibility as americans...
hippibillie 2 years ago 11
This is not a democracy it is a Republic. Or it use to be until everyone thought it was a democracy. We need our Republic back.
LibertyUnleashedTV 2 years ago 12
Well keep voting for the same people over and over again and this is what you get!!!!!
DJChuckB2009 2 years ago 6
The house needs to be cleaned of vermin like this....it is appallng that this man was re-elected last year.
gingysnapp 2 years ago 8
Kick his ass out.
THEKINGB1 2 years ago 5
Two words....Murtha Airport!
watch?v=JFUurITRjAk
myangels7 2 years ago 29
We have turned our beloved country over to Crooks!
Barbiebnymph 2 years ago 67
What a bunch of crap! This is how obamacare will be rammed down our throats folks. Anyone that votes for obamacare needs to be voted out of office.
gigem85 2 years ago 68
Murtha is a disgrace and nothing but a crook. Some may recall that in the November election last year, this lowlife called his own constituents "racists" and "rednecks". Yet he was still re-elected? I submit that PA voters are at fault for re-electing this arrogant crook! And those of us who served in the USMC certainly don't take any pride in John "show me the money" Murtha! :(
FmrUSMCRnTX 2 years ago 65
This is what happens, when people don't vote or take an interest in what politicians do.
peterwilson69 2 years ago 35
Agreed!
youpottery 2 years ago 182
Is this for reals?
funnychikproductions 2 years ago 20
OH DEAR GOD! Someone STOP THIS DICTATOR>DOWN WITH MURTHA AND His Posse!!
L1v3LaughL0v3R1d3 2 years ago 56
Murtha AND Rendell are a disgrace to PA, it's not just Murtha.
mennitti4 2 years ago 34
absolutely my friend fire these people ASAP
zeek827 2 years ago 283
You have got to be kidding me.... Not only is he the earmark king.... He is corrupt to boot...
davidmesaaz 2 years ago 35
Yeah have you seen Abscam? He's extremely corrupt.. very frustrating as I live in his district
hughmanwho 2 years ago 191
Looks like Murtha has appointed him self a demigod. No wonder the conservatives are becoming so vocal.
itsmemikeyt 2 years ago 19
un effing believable!!
in2liquid 2 years ago 4
Has our Government really come to this?! Very , Very Scary !!
saccalgurl 2 years ago 68
This makes me sick. How can it be that this can happen?
Volcomite21 2 years ago 85
well look who is in charge? its john murtha
what do you expect from this crook
backrubs62 2 years ago 35
wow, I don't think much needs to be said here...
cutterx2202 2 years ago 83
I am losing faith :( This is pathetic, a total breakdown of the house.
Drummerization 2 years ago 80
I am losing faith :(
Drummerization 2 years ago 60
This is crazy! Do we live in a banana republic now?
savabun 2 years ago 84
I cannot believe this is in America. Our founding fathers would hang their heads in despair to see their work perverted into this.
BeachElle16 2 years ago 115
If we had a media......
JoeDanMedia 2 years ago 66
If we had a LEGITIMATE media.....
1Monkeybaby4me 2 years ago 100
Murtha should have be removed as chair and censured, if not expelled for this!
rightwinglefty1 2 years ago 122
Well Murtha is the one that told George Bush in 2001 that Fannie and Freddie were "fine institutions" and were well run and didn't need any oversight. The man has totally lost touch with reality and I am embarrassed for the people that keep re-electing him. They are idiots.
MeteorMega 2 years ago 57
better get out and vote...go to the Town Hall meetings etc......we all need to voice our opinions whatever they may be.
rigoletto68 2 years ago 11
We ought to lock this guy up! How can he remain in office?
bvana9715 2 years ago 10
unbelievable, and down right disturbing
roofdude21 2 years ago 7
Who can call him on this? I sure hope the person that can.....does! This is so scarey and just WRONG
jckjones 2 years ago 7
The majority wanted change...one has to wonder how they think that's working out for them now...
jboynsteph 2 years ago 2
If the best the GOP can do in 2010 is to remove Murtha it would be a good day
tjexcite 2 years ago 6
as a Democrat. I'm appalled. This is just a confused old man that is clearly out of control.
Squigibo 2 years ago 7
while we were sleeping....this country has gotten flushed down the toilet. We AMERICA need to wake up & pay attention to our politics & get involved somehow - WE need to create our OWN hope & change....
TheMailgirlsandiego 2 years ago 9
Shame on Murtha.shame on Congress who paly with peoles trust and votes.
goyzanbila 2 years ago 3
This is not Democracy It's Dictatorship! This guy needs to be Impeached! I don't care if he is DEM or REPUB! America stand up against this OUTRIGHT disregard to the Constitution!
farmerda 2 years ago 7
Standard philosophy for liberals. Rule of law, procedure, limited government don't matter. Just steam roll everyone to get what you want -yep, that's liberals.
MrLamontSanford 2 years ago 4
I totally agree. This is definately how they will pass the health care reform bill. So scarry. This is why we all need to band together and stand up and not take this sort of blatent disregard of the constitution and rules of parliamentary procedure.
robinword 2 years ago 7
I thought this was AMERICA...?
NOT... OBAMAICA...!
Thanks, Roger.
ROGER459 2 years ago
This is a blatant abuse of power of the speaker position.
My God, where is this country heading? I am very afraid for our country. Very afraid!! God help us!
snowballinhell 2 years ago 6
This shows exactly how they operate.
meandean222 2 years ago
These people need to be STOPPED!
funkyfreshjive 2 years ago 2
TEST
CaJeffO 2 years ago
Disgusting.
SmutFi 2 years ago
That is treason and should be punished as such.
gzmkt 2 years ago 2
Great system of government. No wonder things are going so well in this country.
robpriv75 2 years ago
Murtha is a joke, unfortunately the joke is on us.
nkp7071 2 years ago 2
Are you kidding me?
proudmom91 2 years ago
...and this is why our country is tearing it's self apart!!!
mrlordsinister 2 years ago
Fricken throw a shoe at him!
JimLundberg 2 years ago 3
This is how they will pass Obamacare.
TheGrandmaJudi 2 years ago 76
hit him with the chair...
hurchel 2 years ago 65
This man's actions clearly demontrates his abuse of his position and power.
One wonders why he didn't hold the meeting in his office since the outcome was predetermined before he even asked for a vote. After some of his other comments and actions, why is he still allowed on the floor. He obviously doesn't care about "we the people" one bit.
JimThomas5 2 years ago 76
what were they voting for?
howellhammond 2 years ago
This is like watching a movie to show how corrupt the chairman is...OH WAIT this Washington DC 2009...Murtha should be impeached - he is a transparent powermonger in this clip
ExplorePearls 2 years ago 50
198,976.
cslicer 2 years ago 3
So why does Pennsylvania KEEP voting him back into office ?
cslicer 2 years ago 56
Anyone who looks at this, Repub or Dem, should be outraged. What has happened to our country?
xrt199 2 years ago 179
VERY SCAREY! Our democracy is unraveling in full view of the public, but no one seems to care enough to stop it (or know how!).
KimSwenson 2 years ago 162
The arrogance and the vileness of Murtha is absolutely astounding.
tubeyou2001 2 years ago 94
Can we try Murtha for Treason?
Can "We the People" charge him with something?
Any attorneys out there?
LemuriaInTheSea 2 years ago 88
2010 and 2012 VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!!!!!
It's up to 'We the People".......to bring our own Hope and Change.....to this country.
VOTE THEM OUT!!
TanasiTwo 2 years ago 92
The lunatics have escaped and are presently in charge of the asylum.
MichaelRMcCoy 3 years ago 170
Unfortunately.
owemylife 3 years ago 57
this asshole is exactly whats wrong will america!
bringouturdead 3 years ago 141
Murtha simply proved that he doesn't give a shit about his oaths, of office nor his oath as a Marine. He's a traitor.
Geographer76 3 years ago 153
We need a revolution
jakigi 3 years ago 118
Very SCARY!!!
dale3858 3 years ago 60
While we sleep!
mindofray 3 years ago 52
Murtha is a crook and a liar
golyg 3 years ago 58
Sorry, most of your rights have already been demolished into the ground.
So when you get arrested, you can forget about "I have my rights!!"
sudiin 3 years ago 41
We're all Palestinians now except for the-
Greedy, soldier sniffing, cop licking, epsilon semi-moron flag waving stupor patriot shop-a-holics that will buy anything off the Tell Lie Vision
Go Team Consumerism. There is no "I" in Team. No individuality, independence, intelligence, intuition, investigation or integrity
Think of all the future gas chamber attendants just waiting for the orders to kill their neighbors
They are living in a Tell Lie Vision Fantasy world of American Idol Gladiators
SlaveStorm 3 years ago 2
the USA is a republic, not a democracy. your rights cannot be taken away, by a majority vote. stop watching TV, retards. that's why your dumb ass thinks: USA=democracy.
dnHooligan 3 years ago 26
do u see the fascist twin towers on the left and right of the speaker?
Ackdacka 3 years ago 4
Pay backs a bitch - Kharma's gonna gitcha!
mikwid 3 years ago 2
Outrageous. Similar thing happened in Nevada (see my vids), except done by Sue Lowden (R)
FurkDaJerk 3 years ago 4
OUTRAGES!
voteDRNO 3 years ago 7
This looked like Our Colorado Republican State Convention: FACIST!!!!!!!!
c1fuzzles 3 years ago 2
I know it's been said but I must as well. This is a republic. I fight to restore the republic, democracy has a very small place in this republic, and it has got out of hand.
milliradian 3 years ago 15
the speaker is out of order!
aires12345678 3 years ago 8
See????
This is your new fascism at work!!
Know who allowed this to happen to the USA?
It was the STUPID "religious right"!!
Remember?
THEY voted for the Cheney fascist party (33% of the vote) because of its "family values' and "ethics" & "god"!
Just like when they voted for Nixon , the religious right has somehow lost their memory of their act. Notice how VERY quiet they've become?
Like with Nixon, soon the religious right will be shouting, "Why, I NEVER EVER voted for Bush & Cheney!!"
t4705mb6 3 years ago
Stop lying. 1st of all, if in reference to fascism, you are remarking on the National Socialist German Workers Party, or Nazis, then I would remind you that at the highest levels, the Nazis were not Christian & wanted a new age religion to one day supplant Christianity. Moreover, I would remind you, that Bush masturbated in a coffin & then pledged allegiance to Satan. Moreover, he & his fellow 'Christians' engage in ancient occult ceremonies, in which children are mock sacrificed to a stone owl.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
These men can continue the pretense of being Christian, while worshipping stone owls, and the pretense of being right wing, while overseeing huge increases in spending and size of government, but the reality is that they are neither Christian nor right wing. This is a smear campaign against the very people who are steaming mad about these intrusions on what was once democracy.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago
I would remind the disinformant also that the speaker is a Democrat and the member speaking on the issues of procedure is a Republican.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 2
An Insult to Our Constitutional Democratic Republic.*
Organjic 3 years ago 9
Correction: Constitutional "Representative" Republic. The word "democracy" doesn't appear once in the Constitution for the united states of America nor in ANY constitution for the individual state republics. It's not found in the Declaration of Independence, either. What's more, our founding fathers DESPISED so called Democracy:
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
Thomas Jefferson
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 18
ha ha ha ha
kingneddy 3 years ago
vote for a 3rd party
FREEAMERICANOW69 3 years ago 8
this happened a lot when the Republicans were in control of the house and senate as well. It seems both parties get off on being in power and take whatever opportunity they can to abuse that power and play unfairly during important votes and introduction of resolutions. I watched a couple examples of this behavior over the years with both parties.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
Really? examples please?
LuckyTHlRT33N 2 years ago
we live in a republic.
the fact that you think its a democracy IS a HUGE part of the problem. stop watching TV.
our rights CANNOT be taken away, with a majority vote...unless you believe USA is a democracy.
dnHooligan 3 years ago 12
Benedict Arnold was a "hero" and a general during the American Revolutionary War who originally fought for the American Continental Army, but switched sides to the British Empire. As a general still on the American side, he obtained command of the fort at West Point, New York, and attempted to surrender it to the British. How Murtha-esque! Elect Bill Russell 2008!!!
GOlynnGO 3 years ago
MURTHA IS RIDICULOUS. Every American should see this video--especially those in Murtha's district.
someguy5554 3 years ago 13
Wow, All those in favor say I, like 3 I's, all those in favor say Nay, 30 nays, In the speakers eyes the I's have it. WTF???
kajalla 3 years ago 12
marxism? lol no
presty7 3 years ago
The single, decisive reason for this kind of politics is our twisted & bitter, partisan, back-stabbing, undemocratic two-party system! When my fellow Americans wake up and realize that the politics won't change if we just vote republicans or democrats into the Congress? We need a multi-party system, we need a democratic republic based on proportional representation & parliamentarian principles with Prime Minister etc. Otherwise it will be all the same for decades, centuries to come believe me.
HCorell 3 years ago
Hell to the yizeah.
A choice is selecting an experience based on ones own awareness and intent only. You don't CHOOSE who's in charge when there are always only two sides. You select, and then then it's more like settling at best. Course the entire system is set up so it takes what, 10+ million to campaign, effectively ensuring no actual average demographic will ever be in any sort of power.
The kicker is I can't imagine how to change things. No clue at all.
HotaruZoku 3 years ago 2
Murtha doesn't even know what he's doing.
PorkWatch 3 years ago 15
Roberts Rules of Order calls that a Chair/Parlimentarian make such a gesture (ie. in the eyes of Chair the ____s do have it)... however when a recorded vote is requested, it must be recorded and when Division is called - it is granted.
aliakbar01 4 years ago 4
The House doesn't operate under Robert's Rules.
hank4senate 3 years ago
I think its obvious he is avoiding a proper count. There wouldn't be debate about it if he weren't and he thought he had enough votes.
Of course, nothing says he other side doesn't pull the same sort of thing when they were in the majority.
This sort of thing is important because it determines which campaign contributors get to loot the public treasury and such things have to be decided fairly.
musclegrab 4 years ago 3
"In the opinion of the chair, the AYES have it." What a loser.
DebatePHreak 4 years ago 12
Ugh
JamJHolmes 4 years ago
murtha is a thug! plain and simple. obviously we've seen since the 2000 election how several democrats believe that the their ends justify any means.
ybrix101 4 years ago 14
I watch this and shudder because I know this type of representation will eventually lead to civil war.
The left has hijacked our country and they seek to destroy it.
atoweliznotahat 4 years ago 15
This is all in line with standard parliamentary procedure. Even though the 'yea' votes were louder than the 'nay' votes, the nays may still have come from a majority. Also, being "awesome in math" has little to do with this very standard legislative practice. The counting of "200 votes in 5 seconds" happens during most every legislative session.
Magic1Million 4 years ago
Shut up. Stop trying to defend that scumbag.
ATLpirate 4 years ago 18
That's right don't deal with the facts.
grazon 4 years ago
wow, he counted over 200 votes in 5 seconds! he's awesome in math!
Virginian9000 4 years ago 5
Wow...just wow
mfleming98 4 years ago 4