Everyone loves farha. he has a great attitude even when he is losing and he loves to gamble and 80% of the time his gambles pay off. I love watching him
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Overall i think Hellmuth tries to get more and more action with that child behavior, but he should know better that will never improve his game. All that he obtain is to be called a whining kid or idiot and all that became close to the true.
@G3eseH naw he's just competitive. i defend phil hellmuth all the time just because he has haters. it's funny to me how craaaaaaazy people get just because they don't like his attitude that they say crazy things. he's nowhere near my personal favs but i'm nowhere near stupid enough to critique his game.
@DroppinKnowledge69 There are a lot of Pro's "near stupid enought" who criticise his game and attitude and are just to many, there are withim his friends and rivals and he knows they must be right about some aspects but his ego is to big and he hardly accept criticism. I think you personaly like that enviroment and all that atention who Phil search for. I personaly like THAT... AND his bad game when they meet together. I want to see him playing bad and subjective, i like then he taste that.
@G3eseH there pro's. your not. that's my point. i once was at a dinner with barry greenstein and got to pick his brain....trust me...professional poker players brains are on a whole nother frequency. TRUST me, you have no idea how wrong you are when you try to critisize these guys...no matter how well you try to form a argument that's a fact. i can't explain to an ignorant person how complex these guys think. there all genius...no matter how much you dislike philhellmuth he's a genius.
11 brecelets don't prove shit.. Hellmuth won those bracelets when people didn't know very well how to play the game.. but know with so many talented people hellmuth shows his real game, he is far from being a elite player.. GET REAL
@BballStarr3 lol... yeah. Just ask the pros, 11 bracelets mean nothing. Because in 2006 and 2007 no one knew how to play poker. He claimed 1.2 million in winnings on his taxes for 2010. How much did you claim?
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Love the total idiots on youtube, "poker isnt a game for Phil Hellmuth" is this person so DENSE, i can only imagine light bends around this idiot. ALso..watching sammy farha win a few pots on Poker after Dark or HSP does not for one second mean hes won more money than Hellmuth. Get real people, because hes a pain in the arse doesnt mean hes not the best Hold em player of all time. He IS the best of all time. 11 bracelets proves this. ALL in HOLD EM.
Well I wouldn't have called Farha an inferior player. Its not like Farha doesn't know what he's doing, just off the boat etc.. come on. I would show Farha more respect than that.
I doesn't matter that he checked the flop farha is not going to fold and how can some of you people criticize hellmuth's play have ye had as much success as him in poker No
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He doesnt call Sammy an idiot or donkey, he knows he played it poorly and let him make his hand. Love to see him project his errors on other people, waaaaaaa
@audiosultan Old-school Hol'em pros like checking the flop, almost in the dark, no matter what, so the pot doesn't get too big, and the hand remains decent at an early or middle stage of a tournament. You can see they do it almost in the dark here. Don't worry for Hellmuth's strategy, he's a great player overall
i dont see anything wrong calling a raise with QJ suited.. i mean if you want suited connectors why not picture cards? daniel negreanu would probably call that raise heads up with 10 - 7 suited.
this is exactly why phil sucks at cash games. Farha is playing that as a suited connector. If a queen or jack comes farha is folding to any significant raise, if he hits a good flop hes taking hellmuth and one of his ridiculous top 10 hands to value town.
Actually Sammy has won a lot more than Phil in cash games. But he has also lost a lot more than Phil, so he is way lower when it comes down to net earnings. Its not easy to win money off Phil. Sammy practically gives it to you. Phil is very good poker player but he doesn't gamble at all. Sammy is very versatile and opens up a lot more pots than Phil. I know most of you would prefer to play at a table with Sammy rather than Phil.
@sshakababy Id rather play with Phil cos I think he plays more solid poker. I would know when I'm behind. Whereas with Sammy it could be practically any two cards. Dwan is even worse!
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yeah that's probably true but most of Helmuth earnings comes from picking on lower players, Sammy does also does that of course, but he plays with the best and take their money too, that's a different thing.
@julesickdrums Yeah ofcourse...Sammy has racked up 2.8 mil in tournaments and Helmuth is right at 12 million but your right...you prolly have seen Sammy win a LOT more money. Idiot.
@julesickdrums the commentator is being a smartass. Speaking from phil's point of view he's pretending that everyone in the world is inferior to phil.
@HitemupWhoshotya having won those bracelts didn't help him anything everytime he has appeared on live poker, everytime he gets on HSP he has been crushed by someone better, either they be new players or truly elite ones.
@HitemupWhoshotya You're still not even close. Farha has made more in cash games then Hellmuth has. Most of Hellmuths money comes from endorsements. Hell, I don't even think Hellmuth is in the top 10 most winningest tournament players.
@JeeRaph how do you know that? you know of every single cash game that phil hellmuth has ever been in and every single cash game sam farha has been in and how much they're pulling in? why don't you tell me every single girl hughe heffner has had sex with while your at it. get the fuck outta here....
@julesickdrums sam farha is my personal favorite poker player ever...but your just speculating. hellmuth is a legend whether or not you want to accept it...fan boy.
why does fill always call ppl idiots ... idiot calls etc.... he wants "idiots" to call etc.. otherwise he will steal blinds and get no where.. phil is a fucking moron
farha is very hard to play against. i'm not saying hellmuth should have escaped it, but he shouldn't be surprised that farha would call a big bet hoping for a flush or straight draw. farha's done much looser with larger amounts of his own money
isnt the problem with betting the flop that when the 3rd diamond comes on the turn he has to bet again anyway in case farha has 1 diamond, which would be more likely than him having 2 anyway (assuming farha checks again). so phil is still is going to put in 2 bets regardless. he might have saved a little with regard to the size of the bets.
Yeah You cant trap wit top pair phil.....and if the flop has connectors or suited cards bet the pot if it doesn't bet half the pot those are the rules.................bad play by philhellmuth
no matter wat. even if phil bets the flop. sammys not going any where with a flush draw and an inside straight draw... he actually saved sum money by not betting the flop
Still Phil had to call on the turn so he lost money anyhow. I'd say he should bet on flop and get some information from Farha. Farha would probably take a call and when the turn's a diamond, then it would be a lot easier to fold AK when Farha are doing his next move.
phil is stupid, top pair with a draw on the board, he should have made an over bet. why give anyone a free card when thers a draw on the board, specially on the flop!
that is exactly, what i thought. he played it so bad and than complaines about a player, who called 35000 with suited QJ. he saw his error and blaimes others. if you give free cards, you have to deal with it, phil
Always fun watching an '03 WSOP video. Everything is almost primitive in its first-timeness; the announcers call deuces "twos", the poker talk is much more businesslike and less "turn is OH! a diamond!", and the graphics only give one percentage. It's like watching baseball from the '70s or something.
And then there's Phil Hellmuth bitching, the one constant in televised poker. Nice to see some things don't change.
The primary reason Phil Hellmuth is such a poor player is that he doesnt like relinquishing control of a hand when he makes a move and bets out. Its the best time to call him. Whether he raises or re-raises you, if you call him and hit it, he will continue to bet and make moves. Regardless if he hits it or not. And of course if you dont like the action you can get out of the way after the flop if you dont hit it. Phils not very smart. And his ego is even worse a handicap for him.
Welll I have to disagree!!! He has won 11 bracelets!! And he has the greatest record amount of $ won in wsop... so I would not say he's not smart or poor player!! He's one of the greatest player but off course one of the worst person when loses a hand.. the problem about him is that he thinks he can't ever lose a hand...
It was about 60% - 40% pre-flop and then about 61% - 39% on the flop with a flush and gut shot strait draw.
Do you know the definition of "perfect"?
Your basically saying that calling each bet was the "perfect play" in that situation above all other options. I think most people would agree that the perfect move was to fold on the turn...it's hard but it would be the "perfect" thing to do.
Why would he slow play with just top pair kickr with a flush and strait draw on board?
There is no perfect play in poker because there is such a high varity of ways in which you can play a hand and get the best result.
Phil continued to play calling bets on the turn then the river. how is continuing to play a dead hand on the last to streets a perfect play? It's called a mistake but a logical one since Sammy is a loose player. Being Phil he could have used one of his amazing "reads"(psshh) and found out he was beat.
"regardless" the absolute PERFECT thing to do was fold.
That makes no sense without a bet to push Hellmuth off his hand.
Hellmuth acted first and bet, Farha called but did not bet. The only way Hellmuth could fold preflop is if he decided to not play AK.......but with no action before him that is the opposite of a perfect play!?!
inferior player sam farha plays in the biggest cash games in the wotld and q j of d. had more draws to hands then ace loser king not suited. sam farha is too smooth for phil helldork
phil, why would you not bet with top pair and best kicker... why? i know why, because your the best player around and sammy farha is david going against goliath...
i know y phil didnt raise he knew that farha is an aggressive player and phil had postion on him and expecting farha to bluff him.....but phil didnt realized that there are two diamonds on the flop and maybe considering that farha didnt have two diamonds.... so he let farha see the turn and there it is he hit the flush and farha did a great job by betting now he has phil to think that he would not bet with a flush and he could be bluffing because phil check on flop..i hope i answer your question
as a matter of fact i do analyze poker because i play a lot of poker online and in casino.... i dont think you are slow maybe you just need to play a lot more.... the most important thing in poker is you should know what type of player you are playing with so you get a lil information... i know that phil hellmuth loves to play tight and he loves to trap and farha he could play any card which makes him unpredictable and hard to read....:)
o haha i have just started to play internet poker (fun money) for abt two months, so basically it is just knowing your opponant? and phil was taking a risk by checking becuase he wanted to checkraise.
I started for about 2 months too - the idea is to get into you opponent head and then realise why would they bet/check/call and what reaction they expect from you. If Sammy hit the flush - he would just check in hopes Phil would make a bet. But by betting him it tricks Phil into thinking he doesn't have it and bets either to steal the pot away. Turn bet makes him seem weak so now Phil is confident his hand is the best.
this was way before farha was a household name... 2003 no1 new who he was and to be real with you he kind of looked like it here... not by how he played but his appearance... if i seen that in 03 i wouldnt ever think farha handled business the way he does... oh quick question is this the year he came in 2nd to moneymaker??
I would have so much respect for phil if he didn't cry like a baby all the time. I mean he's a pro he should expect beats like this. if he expects to win every hand than he should quit playing poker cuz its only going to stress him out more.
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Nabs07 3 months ago
Everyone loves farha. he has a great attitude even when he is losing and he loves to gamble and 80% of the time his gambles pay off. I love watching him
lovesomecujo 3 months ago
"I check behind for deception and to trap, regardless of board texture. You're an idiot." -Phil Hellmuth.
JeeRaph 5 months ago
Ummm, re the top rated comments I wonder how many people have done their research?
WSOP bracelets: Hellmuth 11, Farha 3. Career money: Hellmuth 4th, Farha nowhere to be found in the top 50.
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who checks that flop? come on now.
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Overall i think Hellmuth tries to get more and more action with that child behavior, but he should know better that will never improve his game. All that he obtain is to be called a whining kid or idiot and all that became close to the true.
G3eseH 7 months ago
@G3eseH naw he's just competitive. i defend phil hellmuth all the time just because he has haters. it's funny to me how craaaaaaazy people get just because they don't like his attitude that they say crazy things. he's nowhere near my personal favs but i'm nowhere near stupid enough to critique his game.
DroppinKnowledge69 3 months ago
@DroppinKnowledge69 There are a lot of Pro's "near stupid enought" who criticise his game and attitude and are just to many, there are withim his friends and rivals and he knows they must be right about some aspects but his ego is to big and he hardly accept criticism. I think you personaly like that enviroment and all that atention who Phil search for. I personaly like THAT... AND his bad game when they meet together. I want to see him playing bad and subjective, i like then he taste that.
G3eseH 3 months ago
@G3eseH there pro's. your not. that's my point. i once was at a dinner with barry greenstein and got to pick his brain....trust me...professional poker players brains are on a whole nother frequency. TRUST me, you have no idea how wrong you are when you try to critisize these guys...no matter how well you try to form a argument that's a fact. i can't explain to an ignorant person how complex these guys think. there all genius...no matter how much you dislike philhellmuth he's a genius.
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11 brecelets don't prove shit.. Hellmuth won those bracelets when people didn't know very well how to play the game.. but know with so many talented people hellmuth shows his real game, he is far from being a elite player.. GET REAL
BballStarr3 10 months ago
@BballStarr3 lol... yeah. Just ask the pros, 11 bracelets mean nothing. Because in 2006 and 2007 no one knew how to play poker. He claimed 1.2 million in winnings on his taxes for 2010. How much did you claim?
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Love the total idiots on youtube, "poker isnt a game for Phil Hellmuth" is this person so DENSE, i can only imagine light bends around this idiot. ALso..watching sammy farha win a few pots on Poker after Dark or HSP does not for one second mean hes won more money than Hellmuth. Get real people, because hes a pain in the arse doesnt mean hes not the best Hold em player of all time. He IS the best of all time. 11 bracelets proves this. ALL in HOLD EM.
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Well I wouldn't have called Farha an inferior player. Its not like Farha doesn't know what he's doing, just off the boat etc.. come on. I would show Farha more respect than that.
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@therightstuff90731 This was in 2003 though. Farha is a great player.
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Galwaybanana 1 year ago
I doesn't matter that he checked the flop farha is not going to fold and how can some of you people criticize hellmuth's play have ye had as much success as him in poker No
kevinswayne54 1 year ago
I think Farha is actually worse than Hellmuth at Hold'em, but obviously not nearly enough to be called an "idiot." One reason why I say that though is because Farha is a Pot Limit Omaha god, he really should stick with PLO since he's so much better at it than he is at NLHE.
Artoo64 1 year ago
@Artoo64 What do you mean he should "stick" with PLO? It the main event, he shouldn't go?
tokyoluv01 1 year ago
@tokyoluv01 Yeah but he plays Hold'em a lot outside of the main event, and I'm sure he plays it more than PLO, when he's clearly better at PLO.
Artoo64 1 year ago
wow you're a real fan of helmuth's style, cos you're a douchebag too
julesickdrums 1 year ago
phil's the better overall player
RogerRussianLa 1 year ago
hes just like that guy in the grand if people played properly id win every hand
TokinBluntz 1 year ago
maybe phil loses so much because he lets everyone draw for free. He's such a belleend.
bamboo 1 year ago
phil "callstation" hellmuth :D
pamalineOsef 1 year ago
Phil is such a freakin' baby!!
CooleemeeChick 1 year ago
what ever happen to sammy? I miss him on high stakes poker
604PENNYWISE 1 year ago 5
Are there any videos on youtube containing Hellmuth where he isn't winging like a little bitch????
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farha is the man best poker player ive ever seen helmuth is just sore loser and bitches too much
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pokers a changed game, QJ was a poor hand bac in the day
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hahaahahha , now the farha will be the idiot from the northern europe : D , good it wasnt Q,10 off xD
sadzumak 1 year ago
@sadzumak : Farha is Lebanese.....and Phil Hellmuth knows that Sammy is no idiot.
yssupvuli 1 year ago
he called 35 k dollars with qj. YES HE DID, QJ SUITED WTF IS WRONG WITH THAT????
MrSmartComment 1 year ago 3
@MrSmartComment: no problem with that, the only thing is that hellmuth didn´t bet on the flop
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doomdart 1 year ago
He doesnt call Sammy an idiot or donkey, he knows he played it poorly and let him make his hand. Love to see him project his errors on other people, waaaaaaa
babybluesnowden 1 year ago
very bad check on the flop by hellmuth. what the hell was his concept there?
audiosultan 1 year ago
@audiosultan Old-school Hol'em pros like checking the flop, almost in the dark, no matter what, so the pot doesn't get too big, and the hand remains decent at an early or middle stage of a tournament. You can see they do it almost in the dark here. Don't worry for Hellmuth's strategy, he's a great player overall
comidaparaperro 1 year ago
i know hellmuth LOVES to check on the flop almost in the dark a lot of times... but sometimes i think it's just not the correct play
audiosultan 1 year ago
i dont see anything wrong calling a raise with QJ suited.. i mean if you want suited connectors why not picture cards? daniel negreanu would probably call that raise heads up with 10 - 7 suited.
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selenatrunzo 2 years ago
phil hellmuth acts exactly the same way 61/2yrs later
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2TheDeath 2 years ago
Hmm, why are there so many pros having the same name? Phil Ivey, Phil Laak and Phil Hellmuth...
rambledon 2 years ago
this is exactly why phil sucks at cash games. Farha is playing that as a suited connector. If a queen or jack comes farha is folding to any significant raise, if he hits a good flop hes taking hellmuth and one of his ridiculous top 10 hands to value town.
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Actually Sammy has won a lot more than Phil in cash games. But he has also lost a lot more than Phil, so he is way lower when it comes down to net earnings. Its not easy to win money off Phil. Sammy practically gives it to you. Phil is very good poker player but he doesn't gamble at all. Sammy is very versatile and opens up a lot more pots than Phil. I know most of you would prefer to play at a table with Sammy rather than Phil.
sshakababy 2 years ago 3
@sshakababy Id rather play with Phil cos I think he plays more solid poker. I would know when I'm behind. Whereas with Sammy it could be practically any two cards. Dwan is even worse!
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Weak play anyway, if he felt Samhi had no flush then why did he play his top tair top kicked so passive.
Thedarksnw 2 years ago
Farha in sweats? he usually roles in style no?
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
farha inferior? I've seen him winning LOT more money than helmuth
julesickdrums 2 years ago 46
phil is the 6 on the all time earnings list sam's not even in the top 50
joescout 2 years ago 2
yeah that's probably true but most of Helmuth earnings comes from picking on lower players, Sammy does also does that of course, but he plays with the best and take their money too, that's a different thing.
julesickdrums 2 years ago
don't get me wrong i love sammy i'm just saying
joescout 2 years ago
Phil has won way more money then farha.
jb0609 2 years ago
I think Norman was being ironic
ba32107 2 years ago 3
I think he is talking from Hellmuth's perspective, everyone is inferior to him in Phil's mind
Exodus199999 2 years ago 3
@julesickdrums Yeah ofcourse...Sammy has racked up 2.8 mil in tournaments and Helmuth is right at 12 million but your right...you prolly have seen Sammy win a LOT more money. Idiot.
sendmenosigns 1 year ago
@julesickdrums the commentator is being a smartass. Speaking from phil's point of view he's pretending that everyone in the world is inferior to phil.
jsnake01 1 year ago
@julesickdrums It's called sarcasm
RAKIMALLAH12 11 months ago
@julesickdrums but phil has won more money the sam so dont know what u have seen
YouJussGotCurbed 9 months ago
@julesickdrums lol yea what about the bracelets? ... idiot
HitemupWhoshotya 6 months ago
@HitemupWhoshotya having won those bracelts didn't help him anything everytime he has appeared on live poker, everytime he gets on HSP he has been crushed by someone better, either they be new players or truly elite ones.
julesickdrums 6 months ago
@julesickdrums i meant the money you get with your bracelets ... no way sam farha can compete with those cashes ...
HitemupWhoshotya 6 months ago
@HitemupWhoshotya You're still not even close. Farha has made more in cash games then Hellmuth has. Most of Hellmuths money comes from endorsements. Hell, I don't even think Hellmuth is in the top 10 most winningest tournament players.
JeeRaph 5 months ago
@JeeRaph how do you know that? you know of every single cash game that phil hellmuth has ever been in and every single cash game sam farha has been in and how much they're pulling in? why don't you tell me every single girl hughe heffner has had sex with while your at it. get the fuck outta here....
DroppinKnowledge69 3 months ago
@julesickdrums sam farha is my personal favorite poker player ever...but your just speculating. hellmuth is a legend whether or not you want to accept it...fan boy.
DroppinKnowledge69 3 months ago
@julesickdrums and if your referencing norman chad...clearly he's being sarcastic
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MsPokerJoker 2 years ago
Comictalent he does that cuz fahra is aggresive and normaly bets, but with 2 diamonds on the flop he's just beeing silly i must admit
KingPica 2 years ago
for all the complaining he does, why on earth would he check that flop with top pair? it would've matter, bc sammy wasn't going anywhere but still
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PokerPlayer77 2 years ago
why does fill always call ppl idiots ... idiot calls etc.... he wants "idiots" to call etc.. otherwise he will steal blinds and get no where.. phil is a fucking moron
ILOVES3X 2 years ago 26
@ILOVES3X He's always bragging, crying.. wow poker isnt a game for him
oldtraffordnike 1 year ago
farha is very hard to play against. i'm not saying hellmuth should have escaped it, but he shouldn't be surprised that farha would call a big bet hoping for a flush or straight draw. farha's done much looser with larger amounts of his own money
johnnywhite 2 years ago
isnt the problem with betting the flop that when the 3rd diamond comes on the turn he has to bet again anyway in case farha has 1 diamond, which would be more likely than him having 2 anyway (assuming farha checks again). so phil is still is going to put in 2 bets regardless. he might have saved a little with regard to the size of the bets.
freaaa1 2 years ago
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He shouldn't have checked.. my philosophy on poker is always bet and it seems to work for me..
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foxysocks24 2 years ago
Yeah You cant trap wit top pair phil.....and if the flop has connectors or suited cards bet the pot if it doesn't bet half the pot those are the rules.................bad play by philhellmuth
tomdamho 2 years ago 2
its looks like its not 2003 but 1903
YoMaafaka 2 years ago 4
What the heck is the commentator talking there about in the end when he says an "inferior player" refering to farha?
slazzerT 2 years ago 5
i think hes being sacarstic...
polak4lyf 2 years ago 2
hes been sarcastic takin the piss out of hellmuth
martinmc11ira 2 years ago
From Phil's point of view he is inferior, that's what Chad means.
Farha had won 1 bracelet in 1996, while Hellmuth had won 2 already at this 2003 WSOP
Choungui 2 years ago
no matter wat. even if phil bets the flop. sammys not going any where with a flush draw and an inside straight draw... he actually saved sum money by not betting the flop
rocdawg83 2 years ago
Still Phil had to call on the turn so he lost money anyhow. I'd say he should bet on flop and get some information from Farha. Farha would probably take a call and when the turn's a diamond, then it would be a lot easier to fold AK when Farha are doing his next move.
KitchenTurk 2 years ago
0:10 - farha look stoned =D
Rising90zg 2 years ago 2
phil is stupid, top pair with a draw on the board, he should have made an over bet. why give anyone a free card when thers a draw on the board, specially on the flop!
TheMasterChino 2 years ago
that is exactly, what i thought. he played it so bad and than complaines about a player, who called 35000 with suited QJ. he saw his error and blaimes others. if you give free cards, you have to deal with it, phil
serratop 2 years ago
i like sam
1PunchKO100 2 years ago 3
He played QJs probably after a 3-bet out of position. I'm not David Gray, but this is so sick.
BurgeMeesterFans 2 years ago
"inferior player" ???? In yer fkin dreams ... Sammy is the best, at least in cash games Phil doesn't stand a chance.
LuchianMihalcea 2 years ago 6
The besta at cash games?? In hold'em?? Oh boy... I like Sammy, I love Sammy's play but in hold'em Sam is a fish. Aswell as Hellmuth.
Sam is the best in PLO cash games, specially shorthanded.
BurgeMeesterFans 2 years ago
Is Phil Hellmuth a fish in Hold'em? lol@BurgeMeesterFans... -.-
Kyllinglol 2 years ago
In cash games, YES. No doubt.
BurgeMeesterFans 2 years ago
I do not agree.. And in my opinion, Hold'em is one of Sammys best games, better than PLO.
Kyllinglol 2 years ago
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Umm...Phil's 100x better than Sammy in tournaments. Sammy's a total luckbox.
blahblah5492 2 years ago
Can't believe Norman Chad Called Farha an inferior player...crazy
thilly101 2 years ago 2
I was thinking the exact same thing
akbar360 2 years ago
it was sarcasm
DrRobotron 2 years ago
Always fun watching an '03 WSOP video. Everything is almost primitive in its first-timeness; the announcers call deuces "twos", the poker talk is much more businesslike and less "turn is OH! a diamond!", and the graphics only give one percentage. It's like watching baseball from the '70s or something.
And then there's Phil Hellmuth bitching, the one constant in televised poker. Nice to see some things don't change.
TLing 2 years ago 2
The primary reason Phil Hellmuth is such a poor player is that he doesnt like relinquishing control of a hand when he makes a move and bets out. Its the best time to call him. Whether he raises or re-raises you, if you call him and hit it, he will continue to bet and make moves. Regardless if he hits it or not. And of course if you dont like the action you can get out of the way after the flop if you dont hit it. Phils not very smart. And his ego is even worse a handicap for him.
dontpanicdirk 2 years ago
Welll I have to disagree!!! He has won 11 bracelets!! And he has the greatest record amount of $ won in wsop... so I would not say he's not smart or poor player!! He's one of the greatest player but off course one of the worst person when loses a hand.. the problem about him is that he thinks he can't ever lose a hand...
mikailik1984 2 years ago
he hasnt won the most in wsop, look it up
psychokitty222 2 years ago
probly with like 200 entrants in the first 7 lol
ViETTGT 2 years ago
well said
Yamakashi1 2 years ago
Theres nothing wrong in calling with QJ suited, Phil should have considered raising after the flop to avoid getting hit by a flush or straight.
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theafrodude22 2 years ago
He called a bet on the turn drawing dead then a bet on the river...how is that perfect?
ViETTGT 2 years ago
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theafrodude22 2 years ago
theafrodude:
It was about 60% - 40% pre-flop and then about 61% - 39% on the flop with a flush and gut shot strait draw.
Do you know the definition of "perfect"?
Your basically saying that calling each bet was the "perfect play" in that situation above all other options. I think most people would agree that the perfect move was to fold on the turn...it's hard but it would be the "perfect" thing to do.
Why would he slow play with just top pair kickr with a flush and strait draw on board?
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theafrodude22 2 years ago
There is no perfect play in poker because there is such a high varity of ways in which you can play a hand and get the best result.
Phil continued to play calling bets on the turn then the river. how is continuing to play a dead hand on the last to streets a perfect play? It's called a mistake but a logical one since Sammy is a loose player. Being Phil he could have used one of his amazing "reads"(psshh) and found out he was beat.
"regardless" the absolute PERFECT thing to do was fold.
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theafrodude22 2 years ago
How would it be perfect if you 60% favorite pre flop genius?
ViETTGT 2 years ago
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theafrodude22 2 years ago
He did the right thing pre flop and the wrong thing post flop.
Remember your words.
"regardless Phil played it perfectly. "
you wanna start over?
ViETTGT 2 years ago
no!
john656656 2 years ago
That makes no sense without a bet to push Hellmuth off his hand.
Hellmuth acted first and bet, Farha called but did not bet. The only way Hellmuth could fold preflop is if he decided to not play AK.......but with no action before him that is the opposite of a perfect play!?!
EDunbarS 2 years ago
theafrodude22 go eat a penis u moron
Livenderrr 2 years ago
dude - that was funny - I thought you were being just a culero but then I read his comment...you were right he's a dumb ass
thilly101 2 years ago
theafrodude, you are a real poker expert. lol. how can phil fold preflop, when he bets 35000 to sammy and sammy calls
serratop 2 years ago
inferior player sam farha plays in the biggest cash games in the wotld and q j of d. had more draws to hands then ace loser king not suited. sam farha is too smooth for phil helldork
thedongers13 2 years ago
i dont think there is anything wrong with callin QJ of diamonds.. hellmuth is just queer and a baby...
Yukhana25 2 years ago 4
I could go All-in with QJ suited..
But that ofcource depends on who I play against
TheGreyDaisy 2 years ago
yeah well playin with hellmuth even in a tournament means - you should play good, very good.
pick ur cards u call and raise him with
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ThugLi7e 2 years ago
terrible play by phil
blaupunkt600 2 years ago 3
"YOU KNOW PHIL, THATS CALLED GAMBLING" XD damn i love farha
chilldude1989 2 years ago 4
2003 he was inferiorior compared to hellmuth who won the event like 13 years b4
littlenickyscarfo 2 years ago
the commentators joke about sammy as INFERIOR only because phil always writes off table players as idiots when he loses. It was a joke
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nick14874 2 years ago
bullshit inferior
lolmarcello 2 years ago
goooo sam
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khalidalfares 2 years ago
sammy is an inferior player? hehe no way
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t0n1g 2 years ago
phil, why would you not bet with top pair and best kicker... why? i know why, because your the best player around and sammy farha is david going against goliath...
guess what, david beat goliath.
l0ngj0ng 2 years ago
i know y phil didnt raise he knew that farha is an aggressive player and phil had postion on him and expecting farha to bluff him.....but phil didnt realized that there are two diamonds on the flop and maybe considering that farha didnt have two diamonds.... so he let farha see the turn and there it is he hit the flush and farha did a great job by betting now he has phil to think that he would not bet with a flush and he could be bluffing because phil check on flop..i hope i answer your question
tayson89 2 years ago
wow. nice reply.
just wondering, do you analyze poker a lot, or think about this alot, or am i just "poker slow" or lack common sense?
l0ngj0ng 2 years ago
as a matter of fact i do analyze poker because i play a lot of poker online and in casino.... i dont think you are slow maybe you just need to play a lot more.... the most important thing in poker is you should know what type of player you are playing with so you get a lil information... i know that phil hellmuth loves to play tight and he loves to trap and farha he could play any card which makes him unpredictable and hard to read....:)
tayson89 2 years ago
o haha i have just started to play internet poker (fun money) for abt two months, so basically it is just knowing your opponant? and phil was taking a risk by checking becuase he wanted to checkraise.
l0ngj0ng 2 years ago
I started for about 2 months too - the idea is to get into you opponent head and then realise why would they bet/check/call and what reaction they expect from you. If Sammy hit the flush - he would just check in hopes Phil would make a bet. But by betting him it tricks Phil into thinking he doesn't have it and bets either to steal the pot away. Turn bet makes him seem weak so now Phil is confident his hand is the best.
shaise 2 years ago
Haha good answer. I love checking top pair heads up all day...
CMLaneLV 2 years ago
Sam >>> Phil
prekazi 2 years ago
phil gave sammy a free card and that cost a lot
sroyle01 2 years ago 3
QJ diamonds. I wouldnt hesistate to call.
ftp44 2 years ago
are you kidding me farha inferior??
docnot1986 2 years ago 5
He probably meant inferior tournament player which he is
fundy23 2 years ago
Norm was being sarcastic, dumbass.
revolvergod 2 years ago 4
this was way before farha was a household name... 2003 no1 new who he was and to be real with you he kind of looked like it here... not by how he played but his appearance... if i seen that in 03 i wouldnt ever think farha handled business the way he does... oh quick question is this the year he came in 2nd to moneymaker??
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torads51 2 years ago
well his attitude's not the best but he got 11 bracelet's by doing SOMETHING right
icedragon109 2 years ago
I would have so much respect for phil if he didn't cry like a baby all the time. I mean he's a pro he should expect beats like this. if he expects to win every hand than he should quit playing poker cuz its only going to stress him out more.
KwNJn1 2 years ago 2
'phil gets pissed when an inferior player.....' farha is not inferior
benwatts 2 years ago 4
In Hellmuth's mind, everyone's inferior.
tbrien66 2 years ago 11