Damn, you ever read the lyrics? F&cking brilliant! Just an amazing way to document a tragedy, with an amazing pop song. Just brilliant. Roses Forever!
I think Reni formed a band called 'The Rub'. I remember my housemate at uni banging out a tune called Savvy on a live cd from King Tuts or somewhere- that was back in (about) 2001, I remember thinking they were f**k all on the 'Roses, but who is??
I think Reni formed a band called ;The Rub', I remember my housemate blasting out a song called Savvy- on a live CD from King Tuts or something. That was in about 2000. I can remember thinking they were f**k all in comparison to the 'Roses, but who is?
lol stevie wasnt a patch on bez,,,,,always came across a touch public skool boy with his moves,, always felt his dancing presence was a let down , he shouldve stuk to his real job,,, behind the sound system
@leonsnapper Thanks for the info. I only recently became aware of who the stone roses are/were. Listening to alot of todays' bands, it is obvious they were listening to the roses when they were learning to play and sing. I wish they were still creating music.
@acash140 i know he's talking about the mersy but it's surely in a sarcastic tone, mersy paradise! stone roses didn't LIKE manchester or anywhere around there..
@benjaminrichardshoop i agree hes talkin about drownings(murder) oil cans(waste) and pikeys. hes saying its a load of shit but in a way its beautiful.
I went to a gig at the Empress Ballroom a couple of years ago with my son and all I could think was " Fuckin' hell, the Roses played here!" My elation hit a peak when Mani appeared for a DJ set that nearly blew the roof off the old place!
I was there. I wish all of you could have been there to hear it live for yourselves. You would have loved it. EVERYONE I was around all agreeded this was one for the ages; Thank God we were there to hear it.
@scottyoasisfan606 Yes I guess you are right, in a late interview he told an interviewer that. But he also said once in a pretty green promo movie that he went to a concert of the roses in blackpool.. pff I guess Liam doesn't remember anymore ;)
I'm arguing with others that think the Stone Roses aren't relevant to the 90's or Britpop as it called. For those that believe this, then why is it that the Stone Roses are called the most influential band in the last twenty years? If it weren't for the Stone Roses the 90's never would have been as good as it was. America was beconing to them, not blur!
ur right, they definatley were mate, they set the path for the 90's and r one of the most influencial bands ever, if it wasnt for the roses their wouldnt be alot of the bands that are around today, shame their all shit tho, they've got nothing on the roses.
Ian sounds pretty bad here.... like he's "singing into a bucket". At Glasgow Green in '90 he sounded great, though.
Reni's going hell for leather at the back, doing all that at once and doing backing vocals and he sounds better than Ian! Singing harmonically whilst doing his energetic drumming style is stunningly difficult. Legend.
@Jewell12344 thats true mate, infact i think Reni has formed a band an plays lead or rhythm guitar in it or did, whether its still going i aint sure...? i wish id have been old enough to have been there an seen these live at their peak, but i grew up with Oasis instead which is a good second best in my opinion......
@madferret27 I know how you feel, my mate gave me a tape of them in 1991 so I just missed them really!Would've given a kidney to have been at Spike Island!Instead I had to be satisfied carting that tape to parties,'inflicting' it onto ppl who hated it in favour of their beloved techno!The same ppl who got into Oasis a few years later more enthusiastically tan anyone...oh the irony!
oh my god why didnt my parents concieve me earlier, im only 22 and i missed the best of them, still got 2 roses tattoos so done something i suppose ha!
Yes it's the b-side to the She Bangs The Drums CD single, but you can get it on the Complete Stones compilation album or discover the stone roses EP, or itunes.
I saw them at Bridlington Spa when they did their tour after second coming. It was awesome but they weren't the same without Reni on the drums. I'd much rather have been at this gig.
had the pleasure of seein broonie at t in the park a few years ago. right after natalie imbruglia. best come down off en ecky i've ever had. wish he'd played this! openin wi little wing made up for it though!
thankgod for studio production. the vocals are shit. sounds terrible. no wonder they fell apart after a few years. sad, Ian is wearing hte same top that he wore on the fools gold video, who the hell dressed these people? They could've gone further with some good management. shame.
you know what you are talking about when it comes to music now go and watch some westlife you fuckin idiot you probably werent born when the roses were in full flight
This is one of my favorite tunes. These fucking guys were the biggest breath of fresh air. I wish they'd have caught on here in the states a bit more. Yeah, one of the best bands and that's the truth.
Aye, was not bad baxter! I remember it pretty well. Got home from Charlatans and watched Cameroon beating Argentina, 1st game of WC that my dad had taped for me. Then up early next day bright and early. We all had tickets but amazingly, their manager came out just before they let us in with a bundle of tickets. He was about 4 hrs too late as the touts had already cleaned up! Reni sang Waterfall during soundcheck btw.
How d'you see a game in the 1990 WC on the same weekend as a gig supposedly in Aug 1989? What method of time travel are you using fella? Or did yr dad tape it from the future?
Just unbelievably good to be able to watch and listen to these legends, great to log in first thing at work and forget that I'm now old and serious ;-(
he used to visit his aunties by the river mersey as a kid and loved playin there.hes reminisin about this.the girl he wants to drown was a girl he had a crush on who broke his heart
I heard it was about drowning the queen cause it says : 'She doesn't care for my despair'. Which would fit there anti royal stand point. Coz the queen had an escape boat in ww2 in Liverpool.
Reni can drum like no one else, and has some of the best backing vocals, criminally underated
anginman123 3 days ago
MANCHESTER NA NA NA
anginman123 1 month ago
20 thumbs up!
MrEX3 1 month ago
And which 2 pricks disliked it? How and why?
thegreenbaizevampire 1 month ago
It's just one of those tracks where you have to listen to it again to check if it was that good or you'd imagined it.
Legends.
thegreenbaizevampire 1 month ago 2
@ lazyitus, u want to sell that video??... just got a ticket for the sat at manchester!!! buzzin doesnt come close!!!!
SuperWebslinger1 2 months ago
welcome to the empress ballroom, would you like a flashlight?
yahhhtrickyah 1 year ago
I have this concert video on tape. I've watched it at least 100 times!
God I wish Reni had played live 2nd Coming!
lazyitus 1 year ago 3
absolutely brilliant
ghart1960 1 year ago
Jeeeesus, what a fucking amazing drummer. Unreal, the only ban where I concentrate on the drumming so much. Class!
cockywatchman1976 1 year ago
Looks class
123tomwright 1 year ago
yes, tis true. reni is as good
mrmrscosanostra 1 year ago
Phahahaha Reni and Grohl in the same breath!!!
Have a word with yourself.
where8angels8play 1 year ago
just electric.. sounds so good.. great memories ...
BlondeRocknRoll 1 year ago
They could spend more money fer the lights thougt.. I can't see John Squire, just his shadow..
Anyway, I've not got words ter describe this song
Noelgallagher290567 1 year ago
Damn, you ever read the lyrics? F&cking brilliant! Just an amazing way to document a tragedy, with an amazing pop song. Just brilliant. Roses Forever!
jimshoez 1 year ago
@jimshoez Whats the tragedy I have always wondered?
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
It's about drowning a girl that doesn't love you back, based on a true story that happened at the Mersey River behind the house Ian grew up in.
jimshoez 9 months ago
What a fuckin tune - one of the best non-hyped roses songs
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Shame that the camera-man clearly didn't know he was in the same building as John Squire.
Stone Roses Forever.
tomjoad1234 1 year ago
Shame that the camera-man clearly didn't know he was in the same building as John Squire.
Stone Roses Forever.
tomjoad1234 1 year ago 3
@tomjoad1234 jokes!!!
ohweloveeverton 1 year ago
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I think Reni formed a band called 'The Rub'. I remember my housemate at uni banging out a tune called Savvy on a live cd from King Tuts or somewhere- that was back in (about) 2001, I remember thinking they were f**k all on the 'Roses, but who is??
tomjoad1234 1 year ago
I think Reni formed a band called ;The Rub', I remember my housemate blasting out a song called Savvy- on a live CD from King Tuts or something. That was in about 2000. I can remember thinking they were f**k all in comparison to the 'Roses, but who is?
tomjoad1234 1 year ago
lol stevie wasnt a patch on bez,,,,,always came across a touch public skool boy with his moves,, always felt his dancing presence was a let down , he shouldve stuk to his real job,,, behind the sound system
vadar03 1 year ago
The Best To Come Out Of Manchester
Reform The Roses !!!!
JedOasisForever 1 year ago 2
best brown singin at blackpool, part from 2:03
aero105 1 year ago
Best. Gig. Ever.
martinmc71 1 year ago 2
who's the dude waving his arms at 1:27 or so?
leonsnapper 2 years ago
@leonsnapp : That's Cressa. The unofficial 5th member and (i think) a guitar-effects technician..
acash140 2 years ago 4
@leonsnapper Thanks for the info. I only recently became aware of who the stone roses are/were. Listening to alot of todays' bands, it is obvious they were listening to the roses when they were learning to play and sing. I wish they were still creating music.
leonsnapper 1 year ago
THE STONE ROSES = GODS
They really are the reincarnation of the Beatles, i mean, in their musical style.
danileo13 2 years ago 3
Most influential? No, One of the most influential? Yes. In the Top Five.
Eltroim 2 years ago 2
this is pure sarcasm isn't it???
benjaminrichardshoop 2 years ago
He's not saying "Liverpool's where are belong" if that's what you mean.. He says "River cools where i belong". No no it's not sarcasm.
He's talking about when he was a kid and means the river Mersey.. Not much to do with Merseyside or Liverpool at all really.
acash140 2 years ago
@acash140 i know he's talking about the mersy but it's surely in a sarcastic tone, mersy paradise! stone roses didn't LIKE manchester or anywhere around there..
benjaminrichardshoop 2 years ago
@benjaminrichardshoop i agree hes talkin about drownings(murder) oil cans(waste) and pikeys. hes saying its a load of shit but in a way its beautiful.
kanadiankopite 2 years ago
One word. Perfect.
ucla4eva 2 years ago 2
my girlfriend went to this gig,which she likes to remind me of...lol..,..i saw em in 95,reni had gone by then,but they were toally amazing
carlos7217 2 years ago 9
@carlos7217 did she run into Noel?
MrEX3 1 month ago
fucking amazing. wish i was there, unfortunately i was -4 then so that wasn't gonna happen..
reni is the sickest drummer, ians the best front man.
mollyisobelcarlton 2 years ago
same yeah i was -3! hahahah
benjaminrichardshoop 2 years ago
I went to a gig at the Empress Ballroom a couple of years ago with my son and all I could think was " Fuckin' hell, the Roses played here!" My elation hit a peak when Mani appeared for a DJ set that nearly blew the roof off the old place!
weecoby3 2 years ago 2
I was there. I wish all of you could have been there to hear it live for yourselves. You would have loved it. EVERYONE I was around all agreeded this was one for the ages; Thank God we were there to hear it.
Dbusdriver71 2 years ago 3
can't describe how amazing this is
stone roses easily one of the greatest and most powerfull band ever
samnninty 2 years ago 2
God I'm Old. I need access to a space time continuum machine so that I could go see the bands I want to see.
Maybe for XMAS Santa? Please??
ladbrady 2 years ago 2
You been watching Red Dwarf? It was filmed there during the Roses' best days! Down at the Hacienda getting slammed and whatever. Good fun.
MrThreshold2009 2 years ago
Sheer 20 year old class Manc if ever. KING MONKEY !
andijones1965 2 years ago
boss
crockyredscouser 2 years ago
is sad that the nasa didnt plays theirs music in the space the stones roses could be in oter galaxies they are one of the greatest bands of all times
surfo6969 2 years ago
crazy to think Liam Gallagher was at this concert.
rapperzondernaam 2 years ago 3
@rapperzondernaam he wasnt this is in blackpool, and liam was at the one at the manchester international
scottyoasisfan606 1 year ago
@scottyoasisfan606 Yes I guess you are right, in a late interview he told an interviewer that. But he also said once in a pretty green promo movie that he went to a concert of the roses in blackpool.. pff I guess Liam doesn't remember anymore ;)
rapperzondernaam 1 year ago
One of my favourites. Great tune.
AIGAMUXA 2 years ago
best song to listen to on a sunny day like today!
daRIG1970 2 years ago 4
they are amazing live too
lookin4brainz 2 years ago
Reni what a genius
kevindoo2007 2 years ago 26
@kevindoo2007 He still is.. Somewhere.
where8angels8play 1 year ago
Please come back for one more tour!?
stephaniex15 2 years ago 3
im eatin sand when i need air
mufcstokesy 2 years ago
CLASSIC!!!! THATS ENOUGH!!
hartz476 2 years ago 3
I'm arguing with others that think the Stone Roses aren't relevant to the 90's or Britpop as it called. For those that believe this, then why is it that the Stone Roses are called the most influential band in the last twenty years? If it weren't for the Stone Roses the 90's never would have been as good as it was. America was beconing to them, not blur!
Dbusdriver71 2 years ago 5
ur right, they definatley were mate, they set the path for the 90's and r one of the most influencial bands ever, if it wasnt for the roses their wouldnt be alot of the bands that are around today, shame their all shit tho, they've got nothing on the roses.
jimmyadcock 2 years ago
favourite song
favourite band .. love the roses
Rfc1Darryl 2 years ago
this is the night the ROSES went big.
carlos7217 2 years ago 2
TRUTH is that RENI is a talented guy,he plays a good giutar and bass,his band after the ROSES "CHUTZPHA" he played giutar.
carlos7217 2 years ago
his band were called the rub
conorMcGrace 2 years ago
"chutzpha" 1 gig,,,
carlos7217 2 years ago
well i know he had a band called the rub after the roses because john robb said "the rub is an apt name as the rub is that reni isn't playing drums"
conorMcGrace 2 years ago
RIVERCOOLS WHERE I BELONG
ohweloveeverton 2 years ago
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jo7dan118 2 years ago
fuckin unbelieveable
kevindoo2007 2 years ago
wooooohoooooooooooooo
mick162 2 years ago
Long live Browny. Gotta admitt though he wouldn't of made it without Manny, Squire & Reni so much talent! Oldskool lol
kaedo218 2 years ago
kaedo it wouldnt of worked without anyone ONE of them thats what makes them the roses... even without brown and his shit voice they wouldnt be same..
reakingringpiece 2 years ago 3
Just brilliant.
kazwaz1977 2 years ago 3
Ian sounds pretty bad here.... like he's "singing into a bucket". At Glasgow Green in '90 he sounded great, though.
Reni's going hell for leather at the back, doing all that at once and doing backing vocals and he sounds better than Ian! Singing harmonically whilst doing his energetic drumming style is stunningly difficult. Legend.
Waterfall64 2 years ago 2
That's why brown's so good coz hese bad
Aparently square quoted reni can piss all over him on guitar
cheza224 2 years ago
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Jewell12344 2 years ago 7
@Jewell12344 thats true mate, infact i think Reni has formed a band an plays lead or rhythm guitar in it or did, whether its still going i aint sure...? i wish id have been old enough to have been there an seen these live at their peak, but i grew up with Oasis instead which is a good second best in my opinion......
madferret27 1 year ago
@madferret27 I know how you feel, my mate gave me a tape of them in 1991 so I just missed them really!Would've given a kidney to have been at Spike Island!Instead I had to be satisfied carting that tape to parties,'inflicting' it onto ppl who hated it in favour of their beloved techno!The same ppl who got into Oasis a few years later more enthusiastically tan anyone...oh the irony!
comanchio1976 1 year ago
@madferret27
Reni could have actually be an improved Dave Grohl he's that talented. Musically (and more), the guy could do anything.
GasPanic08 1 year ago
@GasPanic08 Reni's in a different league to Grohl. Listen to Daybreak on The Second Coming.
MrThreshold2009 1 year ago
One of their best tunes I reckon, and this is a good performance from Ian. Legends
pjo1974 2 years ago 3
oh my god why didnt my parents concieve me earlier, im only 22 and i missed the best of them, still got 2 roses tattoos so done something i suppose ha!
manchestermusic321 2 years ago 2
what you got?
i'm gettin made of stone
conorMcGrace 2 years ago
hwo old is he?
amyleahjackson 2 years ago
Ian Brown?46 or 45 id say
kevindoo2007 2 years ago
46, 1962
conorMcGrace 2 years ago
they barely show john in these blackpool vids.
miraeja 2 years ago
I know. I would have loved to see more of Reni's technique on those drums, though... man, he's brilliant! Genius!
WoopaTV 2 years ago 3
OR IS IT ME!!!
ArmandoBaez 3 years ago 2
thank you, so much, for posting this! fuckin' diggin' it, man!
shovingwords 3 years ago 4
great!
kamlondonuk 3 years ago
wow
geopyt 3 years ago
what a voice! man! that's a true hero, mr IAN BROWN
oasisforever00 3 years ago
where i can find this song for download?? is it correct that name :(
ArmandoBaez 3 years ago
Yes it's the b-side to the She Bangs The Drums CD single, but you can get it on the Complete Stones compilation album or discover the stone roses EP, or itunes.
rogerswift1983 3 years ago
I saw them at Bridlington Spa when they did their tour after second coming. It was awesome but they weren't the same without Reni on the drums. I'd much rather have been at this gig.
desy2478 3 years ago
TUPPE THEY
PengPengBoateng 3 years ago
Damn they were good.
withnail7 3 years ago 3
J'adore!!!
LiLi0123x 3 years ago
Stone ROses.....love em.
Portis1Luv 3 years ago
Does anyone know what Reni is up to nowadays? Its a shame that someone as talented as he is seems to have just disappeared.
madferit87 3 years ago
yeah he started a band called the rub with him on guitar but did not got far so now him and mani are thinking of starting a new band together
brincat93 3 years ago
my sentiments exactly! my fave roses tune!
had the pleasure of seein broonie at t in the park a few years ago. right after natalie imbruglia. best come down off en ecky i've ever had. wish he'd played this! openin wi little wing made up for it though!
gadgie3 3 years ago
In my opinion their best song ever!
DiabloRojo14 3 years ago
i wish they put 'Standing Here' and 'Sally Cinnamon' on the dvd of this show
dannycooke91 3 years ago
i wish someone would upload the entire set list from this show; or at least She Bangs The Drums. I can't seem to find the live version from this gig.
brodel77 3 years ago 2
someone has put it up now mate =)
pembo18 3 years ago
thanx. audio is good but the video is crap.
brodel77 3 years ago
This is fantastic!
danconnolly4 3 years ago
Behave...
leemanc1234 3 years ago
I think Stephen Douglas, the original Jesus and Mary Chain bassist, directed this film....
BahmanG 3 years ago
fuckin amazin, wud love to see oasis write something like this, or any other band in fact...
leemanc1234 3 years ago
It would be redundant since The Byrds already have....
BahmanG 3 years ago 2
lol yeah...riff lifted straight from feel a whole lot better
madferitupferit 3 years ago
this is about the river mersey not merseyside for any idiots out there who think hes singin about liverpool.
willie948 3 years ago
haha! i was trying to say the same to somebody else on a different version, they were all going on about Liverpool. Respect!!
handseyire 3 years ago
it's all the same ,its a shit hole,and they talk very bad,calm down ,calm down.
lkjn88 3 years ago
naprawdę dobra piosenka, jedna z lepszych w historii tego zespołu, eh i Ian Brown :))) jak ja kurde lubię tego gościa!!!
aneczkaaaaaaa 3 years ago
the best band ever
rosiedublin1234 3 years ago 2
this was a b side wasnt it fuckin tune that vocal is sweet!!!
dhlufc 3 years ago
As it goes, Ian's vocal on this is way better than any other live track I've heard from the Roses. A band that didn't skimp on the B-sides.
sheena1625 3 years ago
top tune
MillerMCFC 3 years ago
ian brown is a god nuf said
gooleuk1 3 years ago 2
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"I WANT TO BE!" is he johnny rotten? this is terrible. glad i never saw them live.
uptheresistance 3 years ago
jonny rotten? listen 2 d words, d melody. stone roses were d best
dctopboots01 3 years ago 4
thankgod for studio production. the vocals are shit. sounds terrible. no wonder they fell apart after a few years. sad, Ian is wearing hte same top that he wore on the fools gold video, who the hell dressed these people? They could've gone further with some good management. shame.
uptheresistance 3 years ago
Ian's no popstar, he's always sung like that you clueless nark. He might be awful live but at least he isn't miming to a backing track.
PhilSupernova88 3 years ago 2
you know what you are talking about when it comes to music now go and watch some westlife you fuckin idiot you probably werent born when the roses were in full flight
gburny 3 years ago
oh yeah
bobmorrice 3 years ago
so fucking ian brown..the great band..and we call that DEWA's band
cumacumicumu 3 years ago
it's weirdly slow here; i wish it were faster.
voivod 3 years ago
omg fucking greattt
omgomg5475 4 years ago
This is a choon, love this band! and an great comment by jenton70
chuckle85 4 years ago
fuckin magic
jackomanc123 4 years ago 4
This is one of my favorite tunes. These fucking guys were the biggest breath of fresh air. I wish they'd have caught on here in the states a bit more. Yeah, one of the best bands and that's the truth.
jenton70 4 years ago 2
accidently clicked on the thumbs down,sorry la!totally agree with you
scousepowerhouse 4 years ago
I was at Glasgow Green. I still mind it as if it was last weekend. Charlatans the night before too.
Not a bad weekend haha!
rolandsausage 4 years ago
lucky twat! what a weekend that would've been
Baxter1967 3 years ago
Aye, was not bad baxter! I remember it pretty well. Got home from Charlatans and watched Cameroon beating Argentina, 1st game of WC that my dad had taped for me. Then up early next day bright and early. We all had tickets but amazingly, their manager came out just before they let us in with a bundle of tickets. He was about 4 hrs too late as the touts had already cleaned up! Reni sang Waterfall during soundcheck btw.
rolandsausage 3 years ago
How d'you see a game in the 1990 WC on the same weekend as a gig supposedly in Aug 1989? What method of time travel are you using fella? Or did yr dad tape it from the future?
djcalcio 3 years ago
Read my original post. I was talking about the Glasgow Green gig, not Blackpool.
Apology accepted in advance fella.
rolandsausage 3 years ago
Ah, for the days back when Ian had that head swaggering dance...
themightycelestial 4 years ago
Just unbelievably good to be able to watch and listen to these legends, great to log in first thing at work and forget that I'm now old and serious ;-(
arabneil 4 years ago 6
The Stone Roses were the best band EVER!!!! i cant work out what the lyrics to this song mean but its still totally amazing
Stereohands 4 years ago
the lyrics are about browny staring into the River mersey (which, funnily enough, runs through his hometown) and contemplating throwing his self in.
bit of an emo slant but still a quality "choon"
pembo18 4 years ago
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I think its more of a piss take out of Liverpool (river cool). Ironic as the intro is similar to the beatles song 'here comes the sun'.
moph6bn3 4 years ago
he used to visit his aunties by the river mersey as a kid and loved playin there.hes reminisin about this.the girl he wants to drown was a girl he had a crush on who broke his heart
porlozzzz 4 years ago 2
I heard it was about drowning the queen cause it says : 'She doesn't care for my despair'. Which would fit there anti royal stand point. Coz the queen had an escape boat in ww2 in Liverpool.
chrisSC45 3 years ago
now that you mention it, the whole song sounds quite like Here Comes the Sun
Gasurn 4 years ago
piss take of guns n roses paradise city methinkss lol
it's got fudge all to do with liverpool, but warrington, where he was raised.
pembo18 3 years ago
AWESOME!!!!
BARCAMAN1 4 years ago
my fav roses song!Reni is awesome.hypnotic grooves
jonnyhendrixson 4 years ago
BETS LIVE GIG THE ROSES EVER DID!
jackcoffey 4 years ago
How do you know? :)
They say Glasgow Green was their best. I've only heard one track from the bootleg, and it sounds mental.
atticpatio 4 years ago
well this is the gig thta broke em , but yeah i heard htis morning form some peeps that the glasgow was a fucking top gig lol
jackcoffey 4 years ago
june 1990 big tent on the green oot ma tits , the roses wer SUPERB no other roses gig that ive seen or heard audio of comes close FACT
19fourfourtwo72 4 years ago
Damn it man you were so lucky )
atticpatio 4 years ago
Who is that mad fucker dancing?
FA8T 4 years ago
cressa the roses backing dancer bit like the happy mondays bez
jumpingjack7877 4 years ago
King monkey, nuff said!!
RobHeath1983 4 years ago
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GOD....MY GOD
CDR34 4 years ago