HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
@enushisama well you know koreans are known to copy a lot of things. they probably want retards to think that they were the one who invented the katana..or "hwangdo" but really who are they kidding? it might work on korean drama fangirls/boys...man..they even think that kendo or cumdo is their creation lol. funny people.
Oh...and by the way....shame on whoever uses the term "gook" or "chink"....shame shame shame shame shame on you!!!!!!! Give the koreans and any other race the right to have something to be proud of!!!!! And props to Turtle Press and the masters introduced for sharing their arts with the general public.
Who cares where the art originated. Is it effective? Are there benefits? The matured individual will not focus on trivialities such as racial origin. And from what I can see, there are more than 2,000 immature doe-doe birds watching youtube!!!!!!
HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
Why doesn't use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
Samurai, Ninja, Judo, Kendo, Karate, Sumo, Bushido, Bonsai, Kabuki, Katana, Tofu, Sushi, Miso, Mochi etc... Those are 100% Japanese original. Nothing related to Korean culture.
oh shut up you korea haters. Korea is a beautiful nation that has alot of tragic history because they were a kingdom set between two massive empires, china and japan. they have spent much history either being occupied by one or the other. During the last japanese occupation from 1910 to 1945, japan did a pretty good job of destroying much of their national character and history. They are slowly trying to reclaim that. but many Korean martial artiest went to japan to learn, so there.
@jessica5000000 [2 powers] for Korea should be China & Mongolia. JP didn't have influence to the land-history.
The living way of China, Mongolia, Korea, Japan were all different.
China had his original way that was said "I don't follow (Not farewell)" by JP in days of 隋, the Sui. Mongolia once took Ch's way & somehow succeeded. Korea took the way of following land-owners one by one. Japan took walking by oneself to make his nation in the island.
@jessica5000000 Of course Japan & the lide-side continued several communications especially the land dynasty to be changed. Elites of the both, buddhism priests, merchants etc..
Also there was (is) Vietnam in another condition of his who sometimes fought with China dynasty to keep its rule away and won at least since 900s A.D..
@jessica5000000 When the West came to eat East Asia as the final stage of the invasion with bombs & economy in 19th century, Japan dreadfully felt an emergency as if the maximum earthquake, tsunami, typhoon came at once. Can you imagine the breath of cellular also in this meaning?
The historical great land was half-eaten. The peninsula was almost "no state" but the West didn't stop marching. It was "sooner or later" that the whole to be eaten.
At least, KOR was already half-ruined, couldn't make own nation before 20th. There might be original beautiful things more before, but they didn't seem to be steady nor carried over.
Anyway Korean way was looking for the bigger existence to lean on to live without a fight nor bare feet. The then Korea was "Which to follow, JP or RUS to live with?". Of course JP couldn't wait Kor to be independent by itself. Kor didn't even have the mind.
@jessica5000000 There might be a sword thing in Korea as one cultural dancing thing without a real use, as this video is showing.
Were there some person or a movement to be able to say "Korea was independent alone"? What did she want at that time? She approached Russia. If it was the very heart of her, the whole peninsula should be with Russia.
Korea didn't (doesn't) have a reality & a soul to do a thing, but hoped a higher state of the life with dreaming by being given a sofa from others.
I give you some account from the 19th century. (Before Japanese occupation) A forbidden land: voyages to the Corea 1880
Ernst Jakob Oppert
"The armament of the Corean soldiers is a very primitive one, and consists of quite antiquated common matchlocks, bows and arrows, and of single and three-pointed lances."
"Common soldiers hardly ever wear swords, only officers and mandarins of a higher rank are armed with such of Japanese make,
but they are all old and rusty, and it is more than likely that these also were brought into the country by the Japanese, and were left behind.on their withdrawal.(Imjin war)"
As you see, Koreans didn't see value in swords which meant they didn't have sword art culture.
There are people in Korea who practice kendo, and they are so good that they are in a position to compete almost equally against Japanese champions in Kendo World Championships.
watch?v=U3uVFTX2pnY
There are also people who do not practice, but make things up.
Bottom line: some Koreans are awful, others are awesome.
There will be some Japanese who will always claim Koreans copied Japanese. I can put a video of myself catching a tiny fly with a pair of chopsticks and someone will say I copied Karate Kid.
We are blaming HDGD because HDGD guys are wearing samurai clothes, samurai swords, and practicing Iai-looking forms and Tameshigiri, and yet they claim it has nothing to do with the Japanese sword martial art. We are saying this is not just copying but plagiarism.
@milonganuova They do say imitation is the greatest form of flattery. For me copying is same as plagiarism. There are difference of inspirations and imitations and as an artist I can only tell you both serves a purpose of popularizing a certain style of art. Karate was not Japanese. Okinawans didn't speak Japanese and they are certainly not Japanese. There are many Japanese who claims there were no sword arts in Korea. So I guess they kept long sharp swords for cutting kimchi. :)
Koreans plagiarize Japanese and Chinese and Thai martial arts is because mainly economical reason. They can make pretty good money with that.(ex, Turtlepress) Secondly, they can heal inferiority complex.
Do you know what's different? Copying is a kind of flattering to the originator, plagiarism is just the opposite, an insult to the originator. Plagiarizers pretend to be originators. By this the HDGD guys are insulting Japanese and cheating foreigners who have little knowledge about the martial arts of East Asia.
They should give up all the Japanese-looking stuffs now, just because they claim that HDGD has nothing to do with Japanese sword martial arts.
@milonganuova Two of HDGD guys made some dubious claims in the past but it's really a marketing ploy I think. If you watch all the samurai movies ever made, all the main characters of the movie are violating hair dress codes of Samurai and that's without a doubt 100%. Where have you ever heard of Samurais with Tarzan hair styles? They are wearing Japanese costumes and I don't think Korean clothes are made for sword fights. Japanese movies are same. Bald headed Samurais looks like clowns.
@dokkiro "all the main characters of the movie are violating hair dress codes"
Please send me the list of movie caracters and how they were long and what is accurate dress codes in each time period with reliable sources if you are not posting random lies.
Seems like all the Koreans live in a delusional world where they've been highly capable enough to develop anything good. Within their delusion, world-wide famous persons descended from the Korean heritage, everything which became well-known around the world originates from ancient Korea. Their fatherland, however, had long been China's property dynasty by dynasty and the Koreans had been the China's de facto slaves.
What Korea says as its own tradition or culture seem to be things "already known" by others. Are they looking in others' history and culture to use as own?
Why don't they look for the very original thing such as kimchi that no neighbor has.
Also I don't know what kind of historical person were there in Korea.
Korean stories sound a rough easy outward without a content and a detail.
Also they don't seem to have many things in the very society as a custom, habbit and so on for long time.
@ohano2007 I belive that all that you just said was incorret if you went to korean or japan
and ask them I think that they would say yes this video is corret do you have any hisoryic
evidnce the what you said was true? If you look in korean history the japan did ineeded help
korean onece and that was during the attack of the mongolians.Also japan copyed the korean shsuhi i dont know how to spell most of the stuff I said because I came back from japan.
The reason why Haidong Gumdo guys dress like Japanese is that way attract foreigners who admire Samurai but ignorant about Asian culture. Just like Chanel bag but made in Korea.
there are many museums in korea that shows historical proof that korea had these swords. Korea was instrumental in bringing the art of swordsmithing to Japan. If korea had not given japan their technology, Japan would not have developed sword arts. Many koreans understand that kumdo is japanese. However, haidong gumdo is a korean art
@japantruthify001 현대 "전통무술"을 표방하는 단체에서 내세우는 "전통"이란것은 거의... 아니 전부 다 날조다. 한반도엔 그런 전통같은거 없었다. 당신이 다니는 도장이 "계승" "전통"'같은걸 진지하게 이야기 하는 곳이라면 하루라도 빨리 벗어나는게 현명한 일이다. 특히 "일제의 탄압을 피해 몰래 전승되어온.."어쩌구 하는 레파토리가 있다면 이거 100%다. 그쪽 사람들하고 연락조차도 끊는게 좋다. 서양역시 사정은 마찬가지인데, 민간검술의 영향을 받은 세이버검술 정도이고 중세식 롱소드 검술은 이미 실전된지 오래였다. 19세기 말 정도에 복원시도가 있었지만 실패했고, 1980년대에 들어서 실질적으로 복원운동이 재개되어 아직도 활발히 연구중이다. 그래, "복원"이다, "계승"이 아니고. 서양에서도 전통시대에 사용하던 큰 칼에 대한 전통은 이미 잊혀진 것이었다. 한국이 잘못된 것이 아니라 일본이 특이한 것이다.
>there are many museums in korea that shows historical proof that korea had these swords.<
The curved swords you see in Korean museums now were made by copying the Japanese sword after the Korean Army was completely defeated by the Japanese samurai troops during the Imjin War. Until then, the Korean Army had used short, straight swords. You have lots of historical records on these facts (懲枇録, 朝鮮王朝実録, etc.).
>Korea was instrumental in bringing the art of sword smithing to Japan. If korea had not given japan their technology, Japan would not have developed sword arts.<
Are you saying this on the basis of any reliable historical sources? Or is it just your dream or speculation? I myself have never heard of this kind of story. If something had come from the continent in ancient times, it's from China or somewhere beyond China, not Korea.
The Japanese curved sword was developed by copying the curved sword the Ainu people living in Northern Japan used in their battles against Japanese. The historical swords that came over here from Korea were only straight swords. Koreans didn't like short-range sword battles and opted for long-range battles with archery and firearms. So they didn't care about the development of their own sword martial arts, to say nothing of sword smithing.
Probably because they got very much interested in the sword martial arts for some political reasons after the Japanese sword martial arts have become pretty popular all over the world.
alright, as a korean, I know korea doesn't have sword martial art that remotely resembles kenjutsu or kendo. They had something called Hwarangdo, which was a revised version of Wushu sword art.
Oh, I remember some sense of the British "Angels & Demons", "KKK" of the American and add the reality of the Australian, there always comes the "Anglo Families" to support these videos who seem to have a particular favor with Korean sense who are always searching for Japanese faults & make 1 to 100, always busy with "How to put dirts onto Japan and Japanese", "Anyway bash Japan and Japanese" etc..
"2 superior powers in the East Asian history" should be "China and Mongolia" for Korea. Or "several Chinese ethnics" for them, considering the real history.
No, the traditional Korean swords were never thrusted under your belt with cutting edge facing up. It's only the Japanese swords that are worn this way.
Naturally, the sword technique depends on how you wear your sword. If you wear it in the Japanese way, your sword technique is the Japanese one. You'll never be able to practice the Iai techniques if you wear your sword in the Korean style (cutting edge facing down).
"Think this. China existed long before Japan and Korea is connected to mainland China. Hrm. Mayhaps they didn't copy it from the Japanese? Just because the Japanese samurai is famous because of all those Hollywood movies featuring them, doesn't mean that they're the 'original'. The original guns were made in China, so were the original cannons. Yet today when you hear both, you think Europe! Oh my!"
The issues are all irrelevant and I see no logic here. Try it again.
I wouldn't get to caught up in tradition purity of art forms could be questionable in any art due to human super ego no disrespect look at North korea now that is confusing.
I am more interested in the bigger picture I think it is modelled on Japanese Samurai even down to the swords
History is a falsehood because everyone lies and words change but some truths can't b hidden - another book for me to write!!
Interesting if they didn't evolve some hand 2 hand weapon arts..research research
@777peter Think this. China existed long before Japan and Korea is connected to mainland China. Just because the Japanese samurai is famous because of all those Hollywood movies featuring them, doesn't mean that they're the 'original' for every sword that uses a curved blade. The original guns were made in China, so were the original cannons. Yet today when most people hear both, they think Europe.
Why do korean lie? Don't they have a sense of shame?
Korean American are spreading all sort of lies against Japan in the states at the moment and I cannot believe some stupid american politicians actually believe their lies. Ignorance? Bribe? Guaranteed vote from Korean community? Anyway English speakers always have more advantages. Just let me tell you guys Japanese have no chance to defend themselves and be heard to the world due to their language. I feel so sorry for Japan. I love you Japan.
@ohano2007 Koreans lie because they don't have any sense of shame. Otherwise I cannot explain this type of organized and systematic plagiarism, distortion and fabrication.
As you pointed out, Japanese are reserved people and embarrassed to even engage into this type of argument even they speak English. I know it's a tough battle for Japan. Japan needs all allies like you. Thank you very much for understanding Japan's position.
Why doesn't HDGD use the Korean sword? KURIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is the similar Japanese sword. I never find such the Korean old sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
@expedition60 You can look at it that way, and in a lot of it I agree with you... But Koreans are looking for their lost arts that were removed by the Japanese during their occupation of Korea. Let's not forget that the arts traveled from west to east of Asia.
@deguimerautube What arts did Japanese remove from Korea? Koreans always say that with no evidence. Koreans say that kendo, samurai, Japanese sword, judo, ninja.. are all from Korea. Do you mean that all Japanese arts are from Korea? If your theory is true, all European arts traveled east to west, so France, German and UK don't have their original cultures. Were they all from Italy and Greece?
@expedition60 I never said the arts originated from Korea, more from India and that region, since civilization was noted farther back in those regions. Greece had fighting arts before Japan was founded.
Taekyeon is one of those arts that Japan banned during Japanese occupation... only Japanese arts were taught during that time. I'm not saying you're wrong either, because Korean history is VERY fishy. Reminds me of Pal pot (Or however you spell it) killing smart people to recreate his history.
@deguimerautube In order to cover up the fact that taekwondo is from karate, Koreans disguised taekkyon as an origin of taekwondo. And they made up a fairy tale that Japan banned it.
@expedition60 Have you ever practiced Taekwondo? It is nothing like Karate... Just because there are kicking techniques does not make them the same. Karate is 80% hand strikes, Taekwondo is 95% kicking. The most mechanically complex kicks in the world are from Taekwondo. It is the only art that teaches the 720 degree kick... We can talk about where the arts came from, but Taekwondo is nothing like Karate nor Karate is to Taekwondo.
@deguimerautube I didn't say taekwondo and karate are the same. But my old OED says they are the same. In taekwondo's early times it was the same as karate and was called Koeran karate. To emphasize differences between taekwondo and karate, Koreans have been making kicking into the primary maneuvers. So nowdays they have some differences, but the fact remains that taekwondo is a karate-based martial art.
@expedition60 Well, you know- I have been thinking throughout this conversation about Kyokushin Karate, but Shotokan would be the better example to their likeness, and that was my fault. You are very right about it being called KOREAN KARATE; partly also because everyone calls everything KARATE. Chuck Norris practiced Tang Soo Do, also part of the Moo Duk Kwan's separation of arts, but I look at TSD and TKD back in the 1970's, and they are VERY similar to Karate, so I give you that for sure.
@expedition60 you really shouldn't be calling TKD a martial art . Its a sport designed for scoring points by tapping people wearing padding with your foot .
@deguimerautube 95% of TKD is bullshit as a martial art. Spend two years of my TKD career standing in bastardized linear stance . Having forms does not make it traditional . Where are you getting this nonsense from ? Forms are used for making teaching easier , allowing single teacher teach great number of students .
@1207daone I understand... well such arts like Taekyeon were banned... Taekwondo is one of those Martial Arts that is in a league of its own, because of the dynamic kicks which aren't truly practiced in Japanese arts in the same capacity, but sword arts I think are a fabrication. I agree with you, all of a sudden Koreans have these arts that are thousands of years old, but never were known until about 50 years ago, lol.
@1207daone I just responded this to someone else, Karate and Taekwondo are not alike at all. karate is 80% hand strikes, and Taekwondo is 95% kicking... I know, because I hold Dan in Taekwondo and Hapkido. A lot of martial arts came from games or farming, believe it or not.
Comparing Karate to Taekwondo is like comparing Boxing to Muay Thai; it may look similar, but it is very different.
@1207daone Hapkido IS an art that came from Japanese arts, but more so from Aikijujutsu, because even Aikido is fairly new. Taekwondo definitely not over a hundred years old, but it is more aligned to the kicking styles of Kung Fu than Karate; because Karate is straight leg kicked where Taekwondo is all from the chambered position; like Kung Fu.
Tae Kwon Do... DO= is Japanese idea by the way, Not Chinese idea in case you didn't know. right there says it has Japanese influence. They took Japanese name/idea (Do) but their art wasn't influenced by Japanese martial art (Karate Do) ?
alright then, and what do you think about this video regarding the history of Gumdo?
@1207daone You can't just base it on the DO, because Koreans also use DAN which is Japanese, but how many terms from other languages do we use in English? I see where you're getting at, though.
Gumdo is, for me, the obvious stolen art. For me it's like saying "Hey, we had Korean Samurais that no one knew of".
@1207daone Well, you obviously didn't understand what I wrote; I can't think of a way to write that I AGREE WITH YOU better than saying that Gumdo is a bullshit art and they stole it from the Japs, and that they claim Koreans have Samurais when they really didn't- Without a doubt Koreans didn't teach Japanese anything... the ONLY thing I am saying is that the mechanics of TKD kicks are more on the kung fu side, because Japanese arts don't chamber as much.
@1207daone Oh lol, no- I was literally quoting a guy that said "We have korean samurais" because I was pointing out how much the Koreans have stolen from the Japanese. I think a lot of our conversation here has been misinterpreted, because I am actually agreeing with you guys that most of Korean Martial arts is copied from Japan. I am not Korean, though I started Korean Martial arts in the Military, and now teach Taekwondo and Hapkido.
@1207daone Well, you obviously didn't understand what I wrote; I can't think of a way to write that I AGREE WITH YOU better than saying that Gumdo is a bullshit art and they stole it from the Japs, and that they claim Koreans have Samurais when they really didn't- Without a doubt Koreans didn't teach Japanese anything... the ONLY thing I am saying is that the mechanics of TKD kicks are more on the kung fu side, because Japanese arts don't chamber as much.
@deguimerautube TK came from karate , they turned it into sport combat . Ive practiced TW ,its watered down karate marketed to the crowds . Hapkido came from old school aikido . Boxing and Muay Thai do not look similar duhh.
@sewagedweller Hapkido IS an art that came from Japan, but its from Aikijujutsu, because even Aikido is fairly new. TKD is definitely not over a hundred years old, but it is more aligned to the kicking styles of Kung Fu than Karate; because Karate is straight leg kicks where Taekwondo is all from the chambered position; like Kung Fu. Karate is North and South fighting, where TKD is lateral movement. I know this, because I've taught it for years and my wife went to 2 olympics for it; Gladys Mora.
@deguimerautube dunno maybe TKD has some influence from chinese martial arts , but i cant say ive noticed too many similarities between Chinese martial arts and TKD . Although ive only studied southern style , dont see similarity between TKD and internal styles . Chinese like using stances , TKD has a single stance . Style ive studied had straight kicks with ball of your foot that are seen in karate . Ive said aikido because im too lazy typing aiki martial art style .
@sewagedweller TKD Does have front stance, back stance, horse riding stance, cat stance, modified cat stance... Just not like Kung Fu that goes into animals.
Koreans are shameless. It's the guys do not mind stealing other people's culture. They do not even have an ounce of pride. Such guys "Bushido" should not have to make.
japanese dumbasses only have notoriety b/c we bombed the shit out of their country. few years ago the who gives a fk about them islanders try to say kimchi is japanese and it should be called kim moo chi.ya'll as bad as the nazi's were, yet again, since the abomb and the concentration camps, americans and the world felt bad. too fk'n bad ya'll scared shitless now NO.Korea has a *new dick.i have nothing any races,but seems like the japs love to take cheap shots to claim what's not theirs,PH-FAIL
The Koreans are mostly exaggerators or barefaced liars, by heredity and by training, and it is impossible to accept without careful verification, the statements which they make with regard to Japanese misbehavior.
In every country there are crimes that uniquely reflect its society.
National Intelligence Service director-designate Kim Seung-kyu, in a lecture he gave late in May when he was justice minister, said: "The three representative crimes of our country are perjury, libel and fraud."
The common denominator of the three crimes is lying; in short, we live in a country of liars.
The common people meet in the streets, the house fronts, and the inns. They ask each other endless questions, of a nature that we should think most impertinent, regarding each other's business, work, and money transactions, and for the latest news. It is every man's business to hear or create all the news he can. What he hears he embellishes by lies and exaggerations, Korea is the country of wild rumors. What a Korean knows, or rather hears, he tells.
なんで韓国って他国の文化の起源を韓国と称して盗むわけ?ヽ( ̄д ̄;)ノ=3=3=3
文化がないなら無いらしく他国の文化を盗まないで欲しい。
tamitami04 7 hours ago
HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
enushisama 3 days ago
@enushisama well you know koreans are known to copy a lot of things. they probably want retards to think that they were the one who invented the katana..or "hwangdo" but really who are they kidding? it might work on korean drama fangirls/boys...man..they even think that kendo or cumdo is their creation lol. funny people.
ShuyuKoukin 2 days ago
一つ言い忘れた。刀が海外に有名になる前は「サムライは野蛮だ」って言ってなかったっけ。
sokorahennomizu 3 days ago
韓国人め。嘘ばっか言いやがって。ふざけんな!こんなことばかりやって恥を知らないのか!?最近じゃ寿司も桜も何でもかんでも韓国が起源とか言いやがって!なんて無礼者だ!!しかもあのどこが剣道だ!?ただの踊りじゃないか!本当の剣道は少し静かでもっと張り詰めた感じだ・・・これ以上日本の文化を盗まないでほしい・・・。(´・ω・`)
sokorahennomizu 3 days ago
Not offense , but I'd like to say that this thing cannot even match Japanese Iaijutsu
and Ancient Siamese forbidden killing arts.
Sorry , man , I must press the dislike button.
MarmotteHazard 5 days ago
Oh...and by the way....shame on whoever uses the term "gook" or "chink"....shame shame shame shame shame on you!!!!!!! Give the koreans and any other race the right to have something to be proud of!!!!! And props to Turtle Press and the masters introduced for sharing their arts with the general public.
magusloe 5 days ago
Who cares where the art originated. Is it effective? Are there benefits? The matured individual will not focus on trivialities such as racial origin. And from what I can see, there are more than 2,000 immature doe-doe birds watching youtube!!!!!!
magusloe 5 days ago
Yuk
milonganuova 5 days ago
Fuck
pupa000088 5 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The country has paid money for the activity which South Korea is carrying out anti-Japanese education, and devastates Japan all over the world.
You in the world who are robbed also of much culture and property of Japan need to help.
If it investigates on the Internet, it understands immediately.
In addition, politics and mass media are also governed by North Koreans.
DDD8736 6 days ago
Fake
japan000spirit 1 week ago
You have only to watch "アメリカ人が韓国人の剣道の嘘にブチ切れ Koreans stole Japan culture"
here on this Youtube site in order to know the fact.
Gooks are desperate to be like the Japanese people all the time.
kamikazebomber100 1 week ago
The show is different from the martial arts
Lodoss3800 1 week ago
やっぱそうだったんじゃん。
milonganuova 1 week ago
HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
enushisama 1 week ago 4
Why don't they wear hats and shoes?
milonganuova 1 week ago
South Koreans' delusion started.
myleftylefty 1 week ago
Why doesn't use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
enushisama 1 week ago
Don't use Katana.
Don't wear Hakama.
Stop telling LIES.
Samurai, Ninja, Judo, Kendo, Karate, Sumo, Bushido, Bonsai, Kabuki, Katana, Tofu, Sushi, Miso, Mochi etc... Those are 100% Japanese original. Nothing related to Korean culture.
Sorry!
LocoLohasLove 1 week ago
oh shut up you korea haters. Korea is a beautiful nation that has alot of tragic history because they were a kingdom set between two massive empires, china and japan. they have spent much history either being occupied by one or the other. During the last japanese occupation from 1910 to 1945, japan did a pretty good job of destroying much of their national character and history. They are slowly trying to reclaim that. but many Korean martial artiest went to japan to learn, so there.
jessica5000000 1 week ago
@jessica5000000 [2 powers] for Korea should be China & Mongolia. JP didn't have influence to the land-history.
The living way of China, Mongolia, Korea, Japan were all different.
China had his original way that was said "I don't follow (Not farewell)" by JP in days of 隋, the Sui. Mongolia once took Ch's way & somehow succeeded. Korea took the way of following land-owners one by one. Japan took walking by oneself to make his nation in the island.
Korea was dynasty. Zipangu was a nation.
teas781 1 week ago
@jessica5000000 Of course Japan & the lide-side continued several communications especially the land dynasty to be changed. Elites of the both, buddhism priests, merchants etc..
Also there was (is) Vietnam in another condition of his who sometimes fought with China dynasty to keep its rule away and won at least since 900s A.D..
teas781 1 week ago
@jessica5000000 When the West came to eat East Asia as the final stage of the invasion with bombs & economy in 19th century, Japan dreadfully felt an emergency as if the maximum earthquake, tsunami, typhoon came at once. Can you imagine the breath of cellular also in this meaning?
The historical great land was half-eaten. The peninsula was almost "no state" but the West didn't stop marching. It was "sooner or later" that the whole to be eaten.
teas781 1 week ago
@jessica5000000 There're full of things at that time.
At least, KOR was already half-ruined, couldn't make own nation before 20th. There might be original beautiful things more before, but they didn't seem to be steady nor carried over.
Anyway Korean way was looking for the bigger existence to lean on to live without a fight nor bare feet. The then Korea was "Which to follow, JP or RUS to live with?". Of course JP couldn't wait Kor to be independent by itself. Kor didn't even have the mind.
teas781 1 week ago
@jessica5000000 There might be a sword thing in Korea as one cultural dancing thing without a real use, as this video is showing.
Were there some person or a movement to be able to say "Korea was independent alone"? What did she want at that time? She approached Russia. If it was the very heart of her, the whole peninsula should be with Russia.
Korea didn't (doesn't) have a reality & a soul to do a thing, but hoped a higher state of the life with dreaming by being given a sofa from others.
teas781 1 week ago
@jessica5000000
I give you some account from the 19th century. (Before Japanese occupation) A forbidden land: voyages to the Corea 1880
Ernst Jakob Oppert
"The armament of the Corean soldiers is a very primitive one, and consists of quite antiquated common matchlocks, bows and arrows, and of single and three-pointed lances."
BuffonSarutobi 1 week ago
cont
"Common soldiers hardly ever wear swords, only officers and mandarins of a higher rank are armed with such of Japanese make,
but they are all old and rusty, and it is more than likely that these also were brought into the country by the Japanese, and were left behind.on their withdrawal.(Imjin war)"
As you see, Koreans didn't see value in swords which meant they didn't have sword art culture.
BuffonSarutobi 1 week ago
There are people in Korea who practice kendo, and they are so good that they are in a position to compete almost equally against Japanese champions in Kendo World Championships.
watch?v=U3uVFTX2pnY
There are also people who do not practice, but make things up.
Bottom line: some Koreans are awful, others are awesome.
drkuroneko 1 week ago
:)
dokkiro 1 week ago
All the answers are here "What's with the whole Koreans claiming Japanese are Korean" watch?v=IJn5fPlYBU8
ChosonNuts 1 week ago
@ChosonNuts
You're a good citizen of DPRK.
milonganuova 1 week ago
TKD Plagiarism
Kumdo Plagiarism
HDGD Plagiarism
Yudo Plagiarism
K. Origami Plagiarism
Chosen Ninja Plagiarism
S. Korea Plagiarising Parasite of Japan
hushichou201147 1 week ago 3
the funniest thing is when they cut paper and act like its such a difficult an impressive feat. lol
shinobitech13 2 weeks ago 3
There will be some Japanese who will always claim Koreans copied Japanese. I can put a video of myself catching a tiny fly with a pair of chopsticks and someone will say I copied Karate Kid.
dokkiro 2 weeks ago
@dokkiro
We are blaming HDGD because HDGD guys are wearing samurai clothes, samurai swords, and practicing Iai-looking forms and Tameshigiri, and yet they claim it has nothing to do with the Japanese sword martial art. We are saying this is not just copying but plagiarism.
milonganuova 2 weeks ago 2
@milonganuova They do say imitation is the greatest form of flattery. For me copying is same as plagiarism. There are difference of inspirations and imitations and as an artist I can only tell you both serves a purpose of popularizing a certain style of art. Karate was not Japanese. Okinawans didn't speak Japanese and they are certainly not Japanese. There are many Japanese who claims there were no sword arts in Korea. So I guess they kept long sharp swords for cutting kimchi. :)
dokkiro 2 weeks ago
@dokkiro
Koreans plagiarize Japanese and Chinese and Thai martial arts is because mainly economical reason. They can make pretty good money with that.(ex, Turtlepress) Secondly, they can heal inferiority complex.
ChosonNuts 1 week ago
@milonganuova
That's true.
HDGD guys themselves are proving HDGD is a copy of Japanese sword art. If they do not realize that, they are hopelessly ignorant about Asian culture.
ChosonNuts 1 week ago
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milonganuova 2 weeks ago
@dokkiro
Do you know what's different? Copying is a kind of flattering to the originator, plagiarism is just the opposite, an insult to the originator. Plagiarizers pretend to be originators. By this the HDGD guys are insulting Japanese and cheating foreigners who have little knowledge about the martial arts of East Asia.
They should give up all the Japanese-looking stuffs now, just because they claim that HDGD has nothing to do with Japanese sword martial arts.
milonganuova 2 weeks ago 2
@milonganuova Two of HDGD guys made some dubious claims in the past but it's really a marketing ploy I think. If you watch all the samurai movies ever made, all the main characters of the movie are violating hair dress codes of Samurai and that's without a doubt 100%. Where have you ever heard of Samurais with Tarzan hair styles? They are wearing Japanese costumes and I don't think Korean clothes are made for sword fights. Japanese movies are same. Bald headed Samurais looks like clowns.
dokkiro 2 weeks ago
@dokkiro "all the main characters of the movie are violating hair dress codes"
Please send me the list of movie caracters and how they were long and what is accurate dress codes in each time period with reliable sources if you are not posting random lies.
ChosonNuts 1 week ago
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AugustusRay 2 weeks ago
Seems like all the Koreans live in a delusional world where they've been highly capable enough to develop anything good. Within their delusion, world-wide famous persons descended from the Korean heritage, everything which became well-known around the world originates from ancient Korea. Their fatherland, however, had long been China's property dynasty by dynasty and the Koreans had been the China's de facto slaves.
kamikazebomber100 2 weeks ago 3
Oh,it's kendo(剣道)!
Aer you going to steal our samurai spirits?!
a1k1t1 2 weeks ago
Retrieve it. 『Why does "kumdo"tell a lie ?』
jazztarou 2 weeks ago 4
kimchi smells by itself.
milonganuova 2 weeks ago 9
What Korea says as its own tradition or culture seem to be things "already known" by others. Are they looking in others' history and culture to use as own?
Why don't they look for the very original thing such as kimchi that no neighbor has.
Also I don't know what kind of historical person were there in Korea.
Korean stories sound a rough easy outward without a content and a detail.
Also they don't seem to have many things in the very society as a custom, habbit and so on for long time.
teas781 2 weeks ago
@dzunku1 you are very mean teyyon is a real marsal art and its korean haedong gumdo is
a re-make of the real korean marsal arts.
steelixaqw 2 weeks ago
@ohano2007 I belive that all that you just said was incorret if you went to korean or japan
and ask them I think that they would say yes this video is corret do you have any hisoryic
evidnce the what you said was true? If you look in korean history the japan did ineeded help
korean onece and that was during the attack of the mongolians.Also japan copyed the korean shsuhi i dont know how to spell most of the stuff I said because I came back from japan.
steelixaqw 2 weeks ago
How many people noticed?
"2 superior powers in East Asia" - there wasn't such a thing or a possible view in the real history.
There were several Chinese dynasty & the maximum Mongol one before the 20th century. Korea was with each as a follower.
It should be "China & Mongolia", if say.
P.S. There was Vietnam in other condition without "dyed" by the land.
It sometimes fought with China. At least in 938 AD, it won the 1st independence by themselves. They fought & won in the 15th, too.
teas781 2 weeks ago
Korea didn't develop own martial art. Academic research.
watch?v=qcr8Kw3cY0k
BuffonSarutobi 3 weeks ago 4
@BuffonSarutobi
WATCH BUFFONSARUTOBI'S VIDEOS!
truth and knowledge about the history and origin of "Korean martial arts".
BrettNASTYY 2 weeks ago
The reason why Haidong Gumdo guys dress like Japanese is that way attract foreigners who admire Samurai but ignorant about Asian culture. Just like Chanel bag but made in Korea.
BuffonSarutobi 3 weeks ago 2
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no..jesus.........
Korea=「Culture Thief」「History Invention」 「Steals」 「Liar」「Many Sexual Crimes」~~~ i really really hate korea.
U2loveme 3 weeks ago
check out the warriors at the suwon palace, they're an excellent example of how haidong gumdo style swords were worn with traditional korean armor
japantruthify001 3 weeks ago
there are many museums in korea that shows historical proof that korea had these swords. Korea was instrumental in bringing the art of swordsmithing to Japan. If korea had not given japan their technology, Japan would not have developed sword arts. Many koreans understand that kumdo is japanese. However, haidong gumdo is a korean art
japantruthify001 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001 The grand master of HDGD is 長白山. However, it is a Korean mountain's name. What a stale joke!
enushisama 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001 현대 "전통무술"을 표방하는 단체에서 내세우는 "전통"이란것은 거의... 아니 전부 다 날조다. 한반도엔 그런 전통같은거 없었다. 당신이 다니는 도장이 "계승" "전통"'같은걸 진지하게 이야기 하는 곳이라면 하루라도 빨리 벗어나는게 현명한 일이다. 특히 "일제의 탄압을 피해 몰래 전승되어온.."어쩌구 하는 레파토리가 있다면 이거 100%다. 그쪽 사람들하고 연락조차도 끊는게 좋다. 서양역시 사정은 마찬가지인데, 민간검술의 영향을 받은 세이버검술 정도이고 중세식 롱소드 검술은 이미 실전된지 오래였다. 19세기 말 정도에 복원시도가 있었지만 실패했고, 1980년대에 들어서 실질적으로 복원운동이 재개되어 아직도 활발히 연구중이다. 그래, "복원"이다, "계승"이 아니고. 서양에서도 전통시대에 사용하던 큰 칼에 대한 전통은 이미 잊혀진 것이었다. 한국이 잘못된 것이 아니라 일본이 특이한 것이다.
enushisama 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001
>there are many museums in korea that shows historical proof that korea had these swords.<
The curved swords you see in Korean museums now were made by copying the Japanese sword after the Korean Army was completely defeated by the Japanese samurai troops during the Imjin War. Until then, the Korean Army had used short, straight swords. You have lots of historical records on these facts (懲枇録, 朝鮮王朝実録, etc.).
milonganuova 3 weeks ago 5
@japantruthify001
>Korea was instrumental in bringing the art of sword smithing to Japan. If korea had not given japan their technology, Japan would not have developed sword arts.<
Are you saying this on the basis of any reliable historical sources? Or is it just your dream or speculation? I myself have never heard of this kind of story. If something had come from the continent in ancient times, it's from China or somewhere beyond China, not Korea.
milonganuova 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001
The Japanese curved sword was developed by copying the curved sword the Ainu people living in Northern Japan used in their battles against Japanese. The historical swords that came over here from Korea were only straight swords. Koreans didn't like short-range sword battles and opted for long-range battles with archery and firearms. So they didn't care about the development of their own sword martial arts, to say nothing of sword smithing.
milonganuova 3 weeks ago
@milonganuova
If the Koreans did not really care about the sword martial arts, why on earth do they fabricate its history to steal the Japanese sword arts?
hayek218 3 weeks ago
@hayek218
Probably because they got very much interested in the sword martial arts for some political reasons after the Japanese sword martial arts have become pretty popular all over the world.
milonganuova 3 weeks ago 21
@japantruthify001
There was a big difference before and after Imjin war. It's Japanese effection. But Koreans preferred fire arms instead of swords.
Korea and swordmanship
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
Haidong Gumdo is a modern mixed sword arts. Mixed from Japanese and Chinese arts so they sometimes dress like Japanese or Chinese.
BuffonSarutobi 3 weeks ago
Haidon Gumdo is the art of paratisizm:
Fake Samurai & Kendo in the Japan Expo 2011
watch?v=hix9SGnUz58&feature=related
Haidong Gumdo - Korean Sword Art
watch?v=zbRrgEgQ47Q&feature=related
hushichou201147 3 weeks ago
Please watch YOUTUBE "Endangered Japan".
sakura55love 3 weeks ago
alright, as a korean, I know korea doesn't have sword martial art that remotely resembles kenjutsu or kendo. They had something called Hwarangdo, which was a revised version of Wushu sword art.
DJTrololol 3 weeks ago
Japan should not have to teach kendo.
Korean culture is stealing other countries.
This is not only in Japan.
Has been stolen culture of China and Thailand.
mizututi 3 weeks ago
Oh, I remember some sense of the British "Angels & Demons", "KKK" of the American and add the reality of the Australian, there always comes the "Anglo Families" to support these videos who seem to have a particular favor with Korean sense who are always searching for Japanese faults & make 1 to 100, always busy with "How to put dirts onto Japan and Japanese", "Anyway bash Japan and Japanese" etc..
Korean can be the "Asian yankee" in real,,
teas781 3 weeks ago
Only considering the above, you may easily notice "Gumdo" is an entertainment or something with no serious.
..which kind of the sinere tradition uses "candle" like the video,, 0:32
my first impression was such
"...what kind of sense of the air this video is showing" etc..
Whole the air is weird to be able to say "Korean Hollywood world" or something.
teas781 3 weeks ago
"2 superior powers in the East Asian history" should be "China and Mongolia" for Korea. Or "several Chinese ethnics" for them, considering the real history.
teas781 3 weeks ago
Koreans are a bunch of liars.
watch this "History of Hapkido Movie"
it's full of bullshit and no mentioning of Aikido roots.
take a look at this video!
/watch?v=9rdYmHkge64
このハプキドーの動画見てみてください!
ここでも懲りずに嘘の歴史宣伝しています!
1207daone 3 weeks ago
why are they using Japanese sword? They;re not japanese, but Korean. This is where japanese learned to make swords from
japantruthify001 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001
No, the traditional Korean swords were never thrusted under your belt with cutting edge facing up. It's only the Japanese swords that are worn this way.
milonganuova 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001
Naturally, the sword technique depends on how you wear your sword. If you wear it in the Japanese way, your sword technique is the Japanese one. You'll never be able to practice the Iai techniques if you wear your sword in the Korean style (cutting edge facing down).
milonganuova 3 weeks ago
@japantruthify001 Again you're gonna steal Japanese swords into Korean swords?
R00836 2 weeks ago
Is it the video of Kendo which is from Japan?
havingashotforme 4 weeks ago
kendo ??
madfish82 4 weeks ago
2:02 Jun Joo Hee = Beautiful lady!
destrask 4 weeks ago
この韓国に依る日本文化窃盗の実態を何故日本のテレビで放送しないのか?反韓感情が燃え上がるから?どれだけ日本のマスコミは腐ってるんでしょう。日本が問題視すれば海外でも必ず取り上げるのに。それが怖いんでしょうけど。もはや売国テレビと言うしか無い。
dzunku1 4 weeks ago
Anything-DO from Korea is FAKE. It's that simple.
dzunku1 4 weeks ago 37
自分たちがやってる事が、大噓だとわかっていて恥ずかしくないのでしょうか。武道をたしなむ者は嘘をつくなどという卑劣な事をしてはならない、と言う日本武道の真髄までは真似が出来なかったようですね。
FromEurope 1 month ago
@FromEurope 信じられない事だけど、恥と言う概念が全く欠けているので「恥を知れ!」と言う日本人には最強の非難も全く通じない連中です。でなければこの様な組織的な文化盗用、起源捏造は出来ません。「恥」は日本の文化、そして「嘘」が韓国の文化、ですね。
dzunku1 4 weeks ago 2
さすがに調子乗りすぎ
tkydmkm1 1 month ago
The Japanese can destroy Korea. Weak country
SAMANTHA755 1 month ago
Japan all the way, fuck Korea
SAMANTHA755 1 month ago
i only came for the hot chikcs
flipballaz93 1 month ago
This is just another CCOK:
Copy and Claim its Origin by Koreans
Well made fakorementary with no truth.
dzunku1 1 month ago
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IntrovertPSYCHO 4 weeks ago
@IntrovertPSYCHO wrote:
"Think this. China existed long before Japan and Korea is connected to mainland China. Hrm. Mayhaps they didn't copy it from the Japanese? Just because the Japanese samurai is famous because of all those Hollywood movies featuring them, doesn't mean that they're the 'original'. The original guns were made in China, so were the original cannons. Yet today when you hear both, you think Europe! Oh my!"
The issues are all irrelevant and I see no logic here. Try it again.
dzunku1 4 weeks ago
Why the hell they jump much like a grasshopper?
toastedhdd 1 month ago
the girl is hot...
knusperberg 1 month ago
I wouldn't get to caught up in tradition purity of art forms could be questionable in any art due to human super ego no disrespect look at North korea now that is confusing.
I am more interested in the bigger picture I think it is modelled on Japanese Samurai even down to the swords
History is a falsehood because everyone lies and words change but some truths can't b hidden - another book for me to write!!
Interesting if they didn't evolve some hand 2 hand weapon arts..research research
777peter 1 month ago
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IntrovertPSYCHO 4 weeks ago
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@777peter Think this. China existed long before Japan and Korea is connected to mainland China. Just because the Japanese samurai is famous because of all those Hollywood movies featuring them, doesn't mean that they're the 'original' for every sword that uses a curved blade. The original guns were made in China, so were the original cannons. Yet today when most people hear both, they think Europe.
IntrovertPSYCHO 4 weeks ago
Dance?
tamatama38 1 month ago
Why do korean lie? Don't they have a sense of shame?
Korean American are spreading all sort of lies against Japan in the states at the moment and I cannot believe some stupid american politicians actually believe their lies. Ignorance? Bribe? Guaranteed vote from Korean community? Anyway English speakers always have more advantages. Just let me tell you guys Japanese have no chance to defend themselves and be heard to the world due to their language. I feel so sorry for Japan. I love you Japan.
ohano2007 1 month ago 30
@ohano2007 Koreans lie because they don't have any sense of shame. Otherwise I cannot explain this type of organized and systematic plagiarism, distortion and fabrication.
As you pointed out, Japanese are reserved people and embarrassed to even engage into this type of argument even they speak English. I know it's a tough battle for Japan. Japan needs all allies like you. Thank you very much for understanding Japan's position.
dzunku1 4 weeks ago
fake BUDO
mrMars1999 1 month ago
>They're all gooks any ways
Oh,you're saying Chinese and Japanese all came from Korean peninsula?
1207daone 1 month ago
JAPAN = Truth
KOREA = Fake
在日韓国人や在米韓国人によるYouTubeでのJapan bashingも酷すぎるしね...
Damned313Necrophobia 1 month ago 10
Gumdoって魅せるための剣舞や殺陣ですか?
韓国でも剣舞や殺陣を習う人がいるみたいですね。
Tenrai42731 1 month ago
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Korea and swordmanship
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
Problems in Korean martial arts and how to find good Dojo
watch?v=SlAvLiNb6rs
Korea didn't develope own martial art. Academic research.
watch?v=qcr8Kw3cY0k
BuffonSarutobi 1 month ago
Why doesn't HDGD use the Korean sword? KURIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is the similar Japanese sword. I never find such the Korean old sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
enushisama 1 month ago
Why are the jap and chin chins bashing the koreans? They're all gooks any ways
bluetseel 1 month ago
映画マトリックスみたいですね。
静謐さのかけらもない、実につまらないお遊戯です。
tellstar2008 1 month ago
見ていて安っぽさが伝わってきます…
武道の精神も判らずに、恰好だけ良く見せようとしているみたいです。
浸っているというか… なりきっているというか…
恥ずかしいなんて感情は皆無なんでしょうね。
akijirou1 1 month ago
Haidong Gumdo is just the tip of the Korean fabrication iceberg.
expedition60 1 month ago
@expedition60 You can look at it that way, and in a lot of it I agree with you... But Koreans are looking for their lost arts that were removed by the Japanese during their occupation of Korea. Let's not forget that the arts traveled from west to east of Asia.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
I wanna know the list of "lost arts" that Japanese supposedly erased from Korean peninsula.
pls make a list so we can all see it and do some research on them.
NickDan555 1 month ago
@deguimerautube What arts did Japanese remove from Korea? Koreans always say that with no evidence. Koreans say that kendo, samurai, Japanese sword, judo, ninja.. are all from Korea. Do you mean that all Japanese arts are from Korea? If your theory is true, all European arts traveled east to west, so France, German and UK don't have their original cultures. Were they all from Italy and Greece?
expedition60 1 month ago
@expedition60 I never said the arts originated from Korea, more from India and that region, since civilization was noted farther back in those regions. Greece had fighting arts before Japan was founded.
Taekyeon is one of those arts that Japan banned during Japanese occupation... only Japanese arts were taught during that time. I'm not saying you're wrong either, because Korean history is VERY fishy. Reminds me of Pal pot (Or however you spell it) killing smart people to recreate his history.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube In order to cover up the fact that taekwondo is from karate, Koreans disguised taekkyon as an origin of taekwondo. And they made up a fairy tale that Japan banned it.
expedition60 1 month ago
@expedition60 Have you ever practiced Taekwondo? It is nothing like Karate... Just because there are kicking techniques does not make them the same. Karate is 80% hand strikes, Taekwondo is 95% kicking. The most mechanically complex kicks in the world are from Taekwondo. It is the only art that teaches the 720 degree kick... We can talk about where the arts came from, but Taekwondo is nothing like Karate nor Karate is to Taekwondo.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube I didn't say taekwondo and karate are the same. But my old OED says they are the same. In taekwondo's early times it was the same as karate and was called Koeran karate. To emphasize differences between taekwondo and karate, Koreans have been making kicking into the primary maneuvers. So nowdays they have some differences, but the fact remains that taekwondo is a karate-based martial art.
expedition60 1 month ago
@expedition60 Well, you know- I have been thinking throughout this conversation about Kyokushin Karate, but Shotokan would be the better example to their likeness, and that was my fault. You are very right about it being called KOREAN KARATE; partly also because everyone calls everything KARATE. Chuck Norris practiced Tang Soo Do, also part of the Moo Duk Kwan's separation of arts, but I look at TSD and TKD back in the 1970's, and they are VERY similar to Karate, so I give you that for sure.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@expedition60 Logical facts in a conversation, first time that has ever happened to me on youtube, lol. Thanks for the good conversation, sir.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@expedition60 you really shouldn't be calling TKD a martial art . Its a sport designed for scoring points by tapping people wearing padding with your foot .
sewagedweller 1 month ago
@sewagedweller WTF Taekwondo has the sport, but it has traditional side, with forms, etc.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube 95% of TKD is bullshit as a martial art. Spend two years of my TKD career standing in bastardized linear stance . Having forms does not make it traditional . Where are you getting this nonsense from ? Forms are used for making teaching easier , allowing single teacher teach great number of students .
sewagedweller 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
yeah, I'm also interested to know what Japan removed from Korea.
I asked so many Koreans about this issue before, none of them reply to me.
maybe you can TEACH us something?
I know Japan banned Ttongsul the fece drink, and Byung shin chum 병신춤 during annexation.
1207daone 1 month ago 3
@1207daone I understand... well such arts like Taekyeon were banned... Taekwondo is one of those Martial Arts that is in a league of its own, because of the dynamic kicks which aren't truly practiced in Japanese arts in the same capacity, but sword arts I think are a fabrication. I agree with you, all of a sudden Koreans have these arts that are thousands of years old, but never were known until about 50 years ago, lol.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
Taekyeon? you mean the game played among civilians?
dude! game and martial arts are not the same.
watch this.
/watch?v=_EN24Th2mN0
this was NEVER a martial art.
TKD was created from Karate.
1207daone 1 month ago
@1207daone I just responded this to someone else, Karate and Taekwondo are not alike at all. karate is 80% hand strikes, and Taekwondo is 95% kicking... I know, because I hold Dan in Taekwondo and Hapkido. A lot of martial arts came from games or farming, believe it or not.
Comparing Karate to Taekwondo is like comparing Boxing to Muay Thai; it may look similar, but it is very different.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
Taekwondo is made FROM Karate.
I know TKD is more kicking than anything. BUT the creation of TKD is FROM Karate.
and Hapkido is Aikido, right?
1207daone 1 month ago
@1207daone Hapkido IS an art that came from Japanese arts, but more so from Aikijujutsu, because even Aikido is fairly new. Taekwondo definitely not over a hundred years old, but it is more aligned to the kicking styles of Kung Fu than Karate; because Karate is straight leg kicked where Taekwondo is all from the chambered position; like Kung Fu.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
Tae Kwon Do... DO= is Japanese idea by the way, Not Chinese idea in case you didn't know. right there says it has Japanese influence. They took Japanese name/idea (Do) but their art wasn't influenced by Japanese martial art (Karate Do) ?
alright then, and what do you think about this video regarding the history of Gumdo?
1207daone 1 month ago
@1207daone You can't just base it on the DO, because Koreans also use DAN which is Japanese, but how many terms from other languages do we use in English? I see where you're getting at, though.
Gumdo is, for me, the obvious stolen art. For me it's like saying "Hey, we had Korean Samurais that no one knew of".
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
yes, they use Japanese words/idea/clothing(uniforms), but they claim they are the original and they taught these arts to Japanese. make sense?
>Gumdo is, for me, the obvious stolen art. For me it's like saying "Hey, we had Korean Samurais that no one knew of"
Some Koreans are actually claiming Samurai came from Korea. I guess you didn't know this either. they claim Samurang is the origin of Samurai.
like this following video.
/watch?v=Lngk7DH5yR4
1207daone 1 month ago
@1207daone Well, you obviously didn't understand what I wrote; I can't think of a way to write that I AGREE WITH YOU better than saying that Gumdo is a bullshit art and they stole it from the Japs, and that they claim Koreans have Samurais when they really didn't- Without a doubt Koreans didn't teach Japanese anything... the ONLY thing I am saying is that the mechanics of TKD kicks are more on the kung fu side, because Japanese arts don't chamber as much.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
hi sorry for my late response.
here you are.
"True Taekwondo history shocked Korea".
/watch?v=mLythHpzCsg
watch this closely, it's written in both English and Hangul.
1207daone 1 month ago 2
@1207daone Thank you for the info :)
I still prefer Taekwondo over Karate... but one can not deny the facts. I'm not Korean, so it's easier for me to accept haha
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube
Oh, You aren't Korean? from your previous comments, I thought you were since you
wrote " We have Korean Samurai...such and such" but Okay, whateva :)
1207daone 1 month ago
@1207daone Oh lol, no- I was literally quoting a guy that said "We have korean samurais" because I was pointing out how much the Koreans have stolen from the Japanese. I think a lot of our conversation here has been misinterpreted, because I am actually agreeing with you guys that most of Korean Martial arts is copied from Japan. I am not Korean, though I started Korean Martial arts in the Military, and now teach Taekwondo and Hapkido.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@1207daone Well, you obviously didn't understand what I wrote; I can't think of a way to write that I AGREE WITH YOU better than saying that Gumdo is a bullshit art and they stole it from the Japs, and that they claim Koreans have Samurais when they really didn't- Without a doubt Koreans didn't teach Japanese anything... the ONLY thing I am saying is that the mechanics of TKD kicks are more on the kung fu side, because Japanese arts don't chamber as much.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube TK came from karate , they turned it into sport combat . Ive practiced TW ,its watered down karate marketed to the crowds . Hapkido came from old school aikido . Boxing and Muay Thai do not look similar duhh.
sewagedweller 1 month ago
@sewagedweller Hapkido IS an art that came from Japan, but its from Aikijujutsu, because even Aikido is fairly new. TKD is definitely not over a hundred years old, but it is more aligned to the kicking styles of Kung Fu than Karate; because Karate is straight leg kicks where Taekwondo is all from the chambered position; like Kung Fu. Karate is North and South fighting, where TKD is lateral movement. I know this, because I've taught it for years and my wife went to 2 olympics for it; Gladys Mora.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@deguimerautube dunno maybe TKD has some influence from chinese martial arts , but i cant say ive noticed too many similarities between Chinese martial arts and TKD . Although ive only studied southern style , dont see similarity between TKD and internal styles . Chinese like using stances , TKD has a single stance . Style ive studied had straight kicks with ball of your foot that are seen in karate . Ive said aikido because im too lazy typing aiki martial art style .
sewagedweller 1 month ago
@sewagedweller TKD Does have front stance, back stance, horse riding stance, cat stance, modified cat stance... Just not like Kung Fu that goes into animals.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
@sewagedweller One thing I do agree with you on is that it is way too commercialized.
deguimerautube 1 month ago
Nice jumping sword dance.
toastedhdd 1 month ago 2
But their swords are japanese
saitar1337 1 month ago 2
totally useless shite.
superlongman 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Jealousy Japanese and Taiwanese distorting facts everywhere on youtube.
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Copy pirate cannot has quality and safety, as you can see from Chinese.
How about go watch your brutal, disgusting Japs porno, instead of behave like a pussy. :)
fieldmedic7 1 month ago
“There is no sword art which has continued without breaking off from ancient times in Korea.”
朝鮮王朝實録:The Annals of the Korean Dynasty
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人不慣槍劍專業弓矢爲禦敵之備
The people are not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰我國絶無劒手
The king said “There is no swordman in our country at all”
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
The king said “Any sword art has not been passed down from ancient times in our country”
enushisama 1 month ago 9
Koreans are shameless. It's the guys do not mind stealing other people's culture. They do not even have an ounce of pride. Such guys "Bushido" should not have to make.
amoas01 1 month ago
Please stop stealing other countries' culture!!
TheTruthonlyist 1 month ago 2
japanese dumbasses only have notoriety b/c we bombed the shit out of their country. few years ago the who gives a fk about them islanders try to say kimchi is japanese and it should be called kim moo chi.ya'll as bad as the nazi's were, yet again, since the abomb and the concentration camps, americans and the world felt bad. too fk'n bad ya'll scared shitless now NO.Korea has a *new dick.i have nothing any races,but seems like the japs love to take cheap shots to claim what's not theirs,PH-FAIL
nykjunwolf 1 month ago
So how do you guys think he extinguished all those candles with his hand? Might make an interesting topic in Mythbusters.
MysteriousVirg1n 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Jealousy Taiwanese+Japanese distorting fact everywhere on youtube.
They have absolutely no life.
That's why South Korean companies starting beat the hell out of them. No more reason at all.
Go watch your freaking brutal, disgusting japs porno, no-lifers.
FatherDawkins 1 month ago
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HikariHanano 1 month ago
shameless
0o0o1i1i5555 1 month ago
Fuck you Korea.
SuperBookworm365 1 month ago
韓国よ、滅びてくれ。
skyfox799 1 month ago
you guys are just sad...if any of u guys practice a martial art...
your just doing it for the wrong reason =\
ICreepHouse 1 month ago
The New York Outlook 1905
George Kennan
The Koreans are mostly exaggerators or barefaced liars, by heredity and by training, and it is impossible to accept without careful verification, the statements which they make with regard to Japanese misbehavior.
Koreanoia2 1 month ago
I Korea – Minnen och studier från “Morgonstillhetens Land”(In. Korea – Memories and Studies from the Land of the Morning Calm)
A:son Grebst
Yangban suppose to know everything as scholar, they have to be able to answer any questions.
They didn't mean to cheat but the tricky reasoning they make is amazing.
Koreanoia2 1 month ago
A Country of Liars by Kim Dae-joong 2005
In every country there are crimes that uniquely reflect its society.
National Intelligence Service director-designate Kim Seung-kyu, in a lecture he gave late in May when he was justice minister, said: "The three representative crimes of our country are perjury, libel and fraud."
The common denominator of the three crimes is lying; in short, we live in a country of liars.
Koreanoia2 1 month ago
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Koreanoia2 1 month ago
North China Herald 5 May 1905
Esson Third
No land could possibly make a greater showing for bribery and corruption than Korea herself.
On no piece of ground have men deceived and been deceived more univbersally than in this peninsula.
No Government ever existed that was more infected with rottenness to the bones, cheating, lying, defrauding.
But Korea has grown accustomed to and unconscious of her own way of doing such things and sees only the fault of others.
Koreanoia2 1 month ago
Korea and her neighbors
Isabella Bird
The common people meet in the streets, the house fronts, and the inns. They ask each other endless questions, of a nature that we should think most impertinent, regarding each other's business, work, and money transactions, and for the latest news. It is every man's business to hear or create all the news he can. What he hears he embellishes by lies and exaggerations, Korea is the country of wild rumors. What a Korean knows, or rather hears, he tells.
Koreanoia2 1 month ago