well theres a reason muay thai is used in mma more, its more compact, looks deceptive and allows for more kicks to be thrown in a row. lol the other guys landing on the foot with all power. stupid.
NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT THAT CAPOEIRA IS LETHAL TOO, SPECIALLY IF THEY PRACTICE OTHER MARTIAL ART, CAUSE THEY SAY: HOW CAN THEY HURT YOU WITH A KICK? I PRACTICE CAPOEIRA AND TAEKWONDO, AND NO ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, CAPOEIRA HELPS YOU TO ESCAPE FROM KICKS, TO OVERCOME THEM, CAUSE WE DON'T USE PROTECTION, SO, YOU NEED TO GET OUT, OR YOU'LL GET HURT, AND OUR KICKS ARE WITH OUR WHOLE BODY, AND IN TAEKWONDO, YOU DON'T USE YOUR WHOLE BODY, BUT SPEED MAKES IT REALLY DANGEROUS
The programme seems to suggest that if the velocity could be increased the Capoeira kick would have the most power, when the technique itself may limit the velocity. It's like saying a jab would be more powerful than a hook if you could increase velocity. And it assumes the volunteers are the best representatives of their styles; GSP's low kick was over 3,000lbs.
So they just don't weigh the fighters or anything? I practice Tae kwon do but that's bullshit... Anyway I'm pretty sure getting hit with any of those kicks would suck all the balls
I agree with the other commenters that the science was shoddy. But I appreciated seeing Capoeira in this scientific light, all the same. Numbers can't lie (I just disregard regarding one as 'better')
of all the kicks the karate decided to do to test strength among a roundhouse..... I can't believe he chose the front kick! That is rediculous. I have been practicing Kyokushin for a couple years and have been hit by all kinds of kicks. That one for sure hurts the least.
@Snakeshit287 I wouldn't say it hurts the least. But its definitely not the hardest kick in the style. If they were going for raw power a spinning back kick would have been the obvious choice in my opinion.
I trained in Capoeira for four years, and I honestly thought Muay Thai was gonna win.
But I also study science, and I don't think this was a very good experiment at all. They should've had multiple practitioners of EACH style. Then have every single individual practitioner of EACH style run the experiment MULTIPLE times with the SAME kicks of each style over and over as well as OTHER kicks. THEN get an AVERAGE of what style and kind of kick was the most powerful and/or has the best F/V ratio.
Don't hate on a style because you feel yours is better capoiera is a awesome style and if you feel it's wack try and face lateef (the man who performed he kick) for yourself and let's see how long you last lol
if this was real science wouldnt they get as many practioners in the 4 as they could and then did a set number of kicks like 10 or something and take the top 3
why in hell did the karateca chose to perform a mae geri (front kick) instead of a shudan mawashi geri (medium height side kick), which is similar to the muay thai and taekwondo's kick??? Not only would it gauge more speed and more power, but it would also make the test a lot fairer... you would think that the biometrics expert and the physiologist expert would want to make their testing more meaningful...
each degree take about 2 year extrea meaning first degree 2 years 2nd 3 years 3rd 4 years 5th 6 years 7th 8 year and it takes 7 years to get a black belt so add 7+2+3+4+5+6+7+8= 42 and lets say he started from 10yrs old that will mean 42+10=52... so they got a 52 year old to kick a bag and that even if he is a 7th degree black belt
Eh. You had an Irishman doing Tae Kwan Don't, another doing Muay Thai and a Korean doing Karate. No offense but Lateef was just over qualified. I don't even think that was his hardest. In all regards, a machine, kicking bag, and computers cannot gauge a fighters ability. It always depends on the situation. IMO anyone of those kicks can be used effectively in the right circumstance.
@Lawrencao Foster is Austrailian. But aside from that, this wasn't to test their ability as a martial artist, but how hard their kick was. Plus...what does the ethnic background have anything to do with this?
Their logic behind how capoeira has the more effective kick is flawed. I acknowledge the power behind the kick, but even if he does hit with it he still has to start out from a crouching position and if he makes contact its gonna be more difficult of follow up. The karate, tkd, and muay thai kicks can be thrown one after another, making them more practical in a fighting situation.
I practice Taekwondo and even I say this is crap. They had the Karateka perform a front kick. Everyone else executed their versions of the round house. HOW IS THIS EVEN A TEST????
@Sevv9220 i think what they tried to do is ask each representative to do the "signature kick" from their style...just happened that most of them did roundhouse variations -.-
@Sevv9220 You're right. The Capoeira guy had a lot of power but you have to keep in mind, the Muay Thai didn't compromise his balance and he hit faster, while the Capoeira guy had to get on the floor and then completely throw his whole body at the pad...instead of striking while maintaining a guard. And the front kick obviously isn't going to be as powerful. This test is pointless
@holyhermit1 Just to play devil's advocate here, can it be argued that the Muay Thai roundhouse sacrifices the same amount of balance as with the Capoeira Martelo de negativa? (During the range of motion of the techniques, not so much what happens after.) Lateef's center of gravity was generally lower & he maintained at least 2 points of contact with the ground relatively more than the others.
@Sevv9220 Precisely, the Karateka was in neat loss, he should have used mawashigeri as his technique.. I'm not sure if they demanded a front kick on purpose because Karate IS very powerful indeed.. :/ who knows.
I wish they would have rated it on the same kick for all styles, this way it would have been fairer and less for people to find "issues" with.
I would have also wished the Karate fighter would have been kyokushin or Ashihara or Enshin to see as they are used to Knockdown if the results would have been different
Oh my belief is ITF is much better than WTF!!! sorry
My maegeri is heavier than that even my left foot is ^^ and mawashigeri would have been a lot heavier... Why did he think doing a completely different kick than everybody else would be a good idea. wouldnt it be more interesting to compare if everybody did similar kicks.
i dont think that any style is better than any other but some martial artists suck :)
Nice experiment, surprising that Capoeira guy won the contest considering it is a type of dancing (?). But why did the karate guy choose a front kick?
@LXEagle the only reason i have, since doing karate for 12 years, is that the front kick is "spearlike" kick and would strike precisely and cause huge damage
but then again this is just my thought if anyone else has an opinion or a real reason please tell me as well
Bruce Lee's theory is that no style is better than the other. It is the individual who utilizes that. In this day and age, that doesn't matter. Look at MMA..
The Karate guy obviously has less training and conditioning then the other guys, you can't necessarily say it's the worst style, all you can conclude from the test is that the Karate fighter they recruited sucks.
The ratios though do offer an insight about the difference of the styles but you still can't say which is better.
@Exult it's not less training, 7th degree black takes plenty of training to gain. it's just they gave him the front kick, which is mainly used to create distance and push away the opponent to make room for stronger attacks like spinning back or roundhouse. the roundhouse is the best kick used in the tests they gave in terms of power. all style make use of all the different kicks, they just didn't allow them to use the same kick :\
@HoneyReno exactly--if they really wanted to see who kicks harder, they should have had them all do each of their kicks and tested each front, round, etc kick against the others.
ive seen alot of people in MMA cage move around to keep there opponent guessing and hard to hit... this would actually work if done right.. but would take alot of energy
@syncopoly what the document means is that if the two shots were at the same speed the capoeira would be more effective because it sends more mass inertia and making it more dangerous. the secret is in the amount of body mass that is the blow sends Lateef
@syncopoly yea surely that means taekwondo wins as it gives the oppenent lesstime to react AND hits harder. Also the capoeira move would take more effort to do because tyou have to hold your entire weight and balance on one arm. Taekwondo wins anyday. more speed, power, and less energy required
you cant compare styles by letting 4 people kick a sandbag. What if one person trained more then the other or had a better night of sleep or whatever that would highly influence your results. Also they al should have performed a kick in the same angle on the bag. Because the straight forward kick uses different muscles and is used in other situations than a high or lowkick and thus in no way camperable to it.
Newsflash: Standing round kick is NOT the strongest kick in TKD. Should have tossed a good tornado round kick in there. Fancy, true, but like the capoeira kcik, uses the entire body mass to drive the kick home. If it lands it can put someone in the hospital through tournament vests.
A push kick is never as powerful as a roundhouse type kick, they should have had each fighter test that type of kick to the variety of their individual styles
@TheLuamiliu dude, a guy who is a black belt in taekwondo cant stand a chance against a BRAZILIAN who is a green-blue belt in capoeira, shure taekwondo has powerful long kicks, but if a taekwondo person dose a 10 foot long flying side kick to a person TRAINED in capoeira, he can just do a forward gainer to knock the person out of the air and on to his rear, i like both taekwondo and capoeira, but for speed, flexebility, and reflexes, i would choose capoeira
Jeebus, YouTube commenters... to even suggest that Capoeira be used in combat, oh the ignorance. Read up on it or try a couple of classes, movies have it all wrong.
CAPOEIRA SON!!! LOL. Just kidding. All of these styles of martial art have their positive sides and negative sides. In my opinion, there is no superior martial art. I've taken Karate, Wing Chun, Hapkido and I am currently taking up Capoeira. So I can tell you this from experience: It's not the style of fighting but the effectiveness in which the fighter uses his/her style that wins the fight.
@MrTcooke88 Strongly agree with you, all arts has it weakness and strength, being able to recognize it is the beginning of a true martial artist. I find myself learning different arts to compensate for the weakness of aother, like yourself, I trained in Karate (Goju), Wing Chun (briefly), Muay Thai, Judo and Taekwon Do... people who bash other arts are shallow and refuse to admit that there are stronger people out there...
I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect but seriously, I couldn't not IMAGINE any master of any form of Karate choosing a FRONT KICK for a test like this. You would choose a round kick, a spinning hook kick or a spinning back kick but NEVER would you choose a FRONT KICK!
i want to inform you that in capoeira you can find almost every kick from every martial art.. i trained in karate and now capoeira.. so there is really no point in arguing which kick is the strongest.. it depends on how you train....
Esto es injusto, el Karateka tendria que haber tirado un Mawashi Geri para pdoer comparar realmente. De echo todos tendrian que tirar la misma patada para pdoer comprovar directamente, SIno me presento yo ahi con una pistola a ver quien es da el golpe mas mortal.
they all have different body build, doesnt that kinda stuff up the test? if a person is physically stronger then the other person they would naturally hit/kick harder right?
@jetsu115 yes the bigger and heavier guys generally kick harder because when your kick you throw your body weight into the kick with the hips. Its not always the case though, they are small guys who can kick very hard.
Uhh... speed matters too. Why do they care so much about ratio as if speed is bad? Wouldn't you want high speed and high mass, not just high mass? A truck could be considered the best killing machine going at 1mph if you believe that aspect.
@SoThisOneDude I thought that at first, but then I realised that they were looking for the most effective kick, as a kick. The speed varies due to different peoples ability, if the tae kwon do dude did the capoeira kick i bet he'd kick the highest of all.
Or to put it simply, if the capoeira kick was done at the same speed, it would rack up higher points
A lot of people are forgeting things like timing, balance and many other factors. A static strike is nowhere near as powerful as a counter punching opportunity brought about by exploiting a mistake. Don't look at power from such a straight forward view, and don't be confused by relative and absolute power. If your style didn't look as powerful on this video don't worry about it.
@jaofas18 The Karate and Tae Kwon-Do practitioners could also do the same kick, TKD is famous for its kicks imagine their most powerful kick. I feel Muay Thai is better than the others in a real combat situation. But don't use your wonderful grammar to state the obvious when everyone else watching the video knows that different kicks would result in a different result.
@MCShvabo what the hell you talking about dude?maybe anderson silva is a way better fighter but comparing to lateef in capoeira skill theres not even a single reason for comparison.Silva did capoeira when he was young(thats what i heared) and he started it again like 1-2 years ago.His belt is low grade and trust me capoeira cords are one of the most hard earned(and they require years) belts in martial arts.
@Rose4Triandafyllos If anyone no it that is me i am Corda Laranja in capoeira Senzala, but let me tell you somethink, Capoeiristas think about cordao like somethink on pants not like skill pointer, that s why in capoeira often lover class (Cordao) Capoerista play capoeira much better than some Instructor.
Silva is Yelow (Coda Amelarha) but he is skilled as some capoeira Instructors like Brian Cavalo and Leteef Crowder
Everyone has his favorite kick.. and every one does his favorite kick better than the others.. for example.. most will agree that round house kick is the strongest, but MY back hook kick is stronger than MY round house kicks..
the guy who performed the front kick.. it could possibly be his favorite kick..
why would the karate guy do a front kick, i dont understand. ive seen karate guys do much better (and stronger) kicks than a front kick.. in muay thai a front kick is like a jab
for those who say that the capoeira kick isnt efficient, this kick is done after avoiding and attack, thus crouching down on the ground, then rising up to strike the opponent. There is no need whatsoever to ask ur opponent to wait for u to perform the kick
If every body is doing a roundhouse kick, it is just comparing the strength of fighters and not the style --"
And if the karate man did a Front kick (mae geri), it is just because traditionaly, roud-house kick doesn't exist in karate, it is an invention for fighting sport made during the 20e century. But in my opinion, front kick lose in power what it gain in touching capacity, 'cause I find it is less easy to block than a round house kick.
The right name is Mawashi geri. But, it is a technique invented by the japanese when they stole the karate to make it their national sport, in order to win in a fight sport. In the tradition of the Shuri Te and the Naha Te, the two arts from which the karate has been made, it does not exist. Just look at Kata of style that descend directly from those two arts
@princesarberas (like mine, shito ryu, or another one shorinjy ryu), no one have a Mawashi geri inside. Mawashi geri is an invention of Japanese for fighting sport. But a so old invention that everybody think it is traditional.
@princesarberas "3. front kick lose in power what it gain in touching capacity, 'cause I find it is less easy to block than a round house kick."
THEIR ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO BLOCK A FRONT KICK.. THE BEST ONE IS BLOCK IN THE KNEE BEFORE IT'S RELEASED"
Right their are. But in my opinion, their are a lot more way to block a Mawashi. And in the fierce of a battle, mawashi is a lot more slower kick than a Maie geri, easier to spot and then to block, and a blocked mawashi imply a lot more openings.
cmmon , trying to fool with mae geri , pls dont try to make karate look bad , coz everyone know a man with a bit common sense would have gone for a mowash geri or yoko geri
-Simon Rhee "karate" has his 7th degree black belt in tae kwon do (a korean system) and only a 4th degree in hap ki do (the japanese system he was demonstrating)
-Bren Foster (tae kwon do) is a soap opera star
-Lateef Crowder (capoeira) is an actor
-Levi Kurtovich is a typical mma fighter.. I found nothing on him learning a pure system.
The "karate guy", Simon Rhee, is actually a Tae Kwon Do master. He also played Dae Han in "Best Of The Best". In any case, the front kick / mae geri is definitely not the most powerful kick in Karate. Funny how none of them used what is considered to be the most powerful kick in martial arts, the back kick (dwi chagi / ushiro geri).
@vromeos finally someone who noticed the same thing back kick is the most dangerous kick in the martial arts world hands down an the karate guy should of know not to do a groin kick that jus didnt make sense
@CALEXICOLEEBOYZ Round can be blocked easily....although it may,and probably will hurt,but if blocked properly,you won't break anything.Straight punches are faster,while still packing enough to take down.
this is retarded how is the test valid if they all don't hit with the same type of kick? at least if it was all roundhouse kicks it'b be somewhat comparable
The first guys on the movie `The Protector`with Tony Jaa.
creeunit204 12 hours ago
well theres a reason muay thai is used in mma more, its more compact, looks deceptive and allows for more kicks to be thrown in a row. lol the other guys landing on the foot with all power. stupid.
Amish4real 6 days ago
muay thai wins-the ability to throw more kicks in row, less wind up than all styles but karate, but still do bone breaking damage every time.
bmx7596 6 days ago
lol so...are they saying one sucks? whats the problem?
ThePeopleneedhelp 6 days ago
NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT THAT CAPOEIRA IS LETHAL TOO, SPECIALLY IF THEY PRACTICE OTHER MARTIAL ART, CAUSE THEY SAY: HOW CAN THEY HURT YOU WITH A KICK? I PRACTICE CAPOEIRA AND TAEKWONDO, AND NO ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, CAPOEIRA HELPS YOU TO ESCAPE FROM KICKS, TO OVERCOME THEM, CAUSE WE DON'T USE PROTECTION, SO, YOU NEED TO GET OUT, OR YOU'LL GET HURT, AND OUR KICKS ARE WITH OUR WHOLE BODY, AND IN TAEKWONDO, YOU DON'T USE YOUR WHOLE BODY, BUT SPEED MAKES IT REALLY DANGEROUS
lova41 1 week ago
The programme seems to suggest that if the velocity could be increased the Capoeira kick would have the most power, when the technique itself may limit the velocity. It's like saying a jab would be more powerful than a hook if you could increase velocity. And it assumes the volunteers are the best representatives of their styles; GSP's low kick was over 3,000lbs.
TenTonHorse 1 week ago
So they just don't weigh the fighters or anything? I practice Tae kwon do but that's bullshit... Anyway I'm pretty sure getting hit with any of those kicks would suck all the balls
WTFisThatRob 2 weeks ago
I agree with the other commenters that the science was shoddy. But I appreciated seeing Capoeira in this scientific light, all the same. Numbers can't lie (I just disregard regarding one as 'better')
purplepisces15 2 weeks ago
Also, Simon Rhee is a TKD practitioner not Karate and he is 50 years old.
johndrakearcher 2 weeks ago
of all the kicks the karate decided to do to test strength among a roundhouse..... I can't believe he chose the front kick! That is rediculous. I have been practicing Kyokushin for a couple years and have been hit by all kinds of kicks. That one for sure hurts the least.
Snakeshit287 3 weeks ago
But that is an awesome front kick!
Snakeshit287 2 weeks ago
@Snakeshit287 I wouldn't say it hurts the least. But its definitely not the hardest kick in the style. If they were going for raw power a spinning back kick would have been the obvious choice in my opinion.
MySoxSmell 1 week ago
isn't the momentum (impact) the one that makes the damage I mean, speed*mass, not force?
Kimbley26 4 weeks ago
Look, it's Eddy from Tekken!
Seguris 1 month ago
I trained in Capoeira for four years, and I honestly thought Muay Thai was gonna win.
But I also study science, and I don't think this was a very good experiment at all. They should've had multiple practitioners of EACH style. Then have every single individual practitioner of EACH style run the experiment MULTIPLE times with the SAME kicks of each style over and over as well as OTHER kicks. THEN get an AVERAGE of what style and kind of kick was the most powerful and/or has the best F/V ratio.
mmw818s 1 month ago
I'm not sure what it's called but he dose a macaco into a Kip up into a front and spring
totalbiatcchess 1 month ago
what is the name of the movement that starts at 0:36? I mean the series of ponte that he does.
giulioballio 1 month ago
this fight science is crap, no one person is the same. if one person can do all arts then you can experiment
kevinog07 1 month ago
Why does the force/velocity count for anything? I would rather have a really fast hard hitting kick than a slower hard hitting kick
121jiggawattz 1 month ago
Don't hate on a style because you feel yours is better capoiera is a awesome style and if you feel it's wack try and face lateef (the man who performed he kick) for yourself and let's see how long you last lol
kmoney3130 1 month ago
if this was real science wouldnt they get as many practioners in the 4 as they could and then did a set number of kicks like 10 or something and take the top 3
frozenwalkway 1 month ago
@frozenwalkway Yes.
mmw818s 1 month ago
capoeira for the win!
landgabriel 1 month ago
I always thought the strongest karate kick is the side kick
TheUfchink 1 month ago
the karate guy is a DUMASS! the front kick is not that powerful why dint he use a roundhouse
MrKarate22 1 month ago
hello. is there a downloadable full version of this one? do you have a link where i can get it? thanks.
baruchjapong 1 month ago
Let's see how much pounds of force a back kick does?
assassin4359 1 month ago
@assassin4359 The capoeira guy did a BLACK kick...
gnoto1 1 month ago
why in hell did the karateca chose to perform a mae geri (front kick) instead of a shudan mawashi geri (medium height side kick), which is similar to the muay thai and taekwondo's kick??? Not only would it gauge more speed and more power, but it would also make the test a lot fairer... you would think that the biometrics expert and the physiologist expert would want to make their testing more meaningful...
MrEjals 1 month ago
Lateef Crowder Mestre Jelon could woop that cocky prick in the Roda
insatiableTy 1 month ago
"THE ANSWER: PHYSICS" made me lol so hard.
jonjonjonmw3 1 month ago
bring sor.kingstar and he will destroy the bag
kamakazicheezeburger 1 month ago
7th digree my ass
each degree take about 2 year extrea meaning first degree 2 years 2nd 3 years 3rd 4 years 5th 6 years 7th 8 year and it takes 7 years to get a black belt so add 7+2+3+4+5+6+7+8= 42 and lets say he started from 10yrs old that will mean 42+10=52... so they got a 52 year old to kick a bag and that even if he is a 7th degree black belt
kamakazicheezeburger 1 month ago
@kamakazicheezeburger you don't know what you're talking about
Juk3n 1 month ago
@Juk3n ??
kamakazicheezeburger 1 month ago
Eh. You had an Irishman doing Tae Kwan Don't, another doing Muay Thai and a Korean doing Karate. No offense but Lateef was just over qualified. I don't even think that was his hardest. In all regards, a machine, kicking bag, and computers cannot gauge a fighters ability. It always depends on the situation. IMO anyone of those kicks can be used effectively in the right circumstance.
Lawrencao 2 months ago 2
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@Lawrencao Foster is Austrailian. But aside from that, this wasn't to test their ability as a martial artist, but how hard their kick was. Plus...what does the ethnic background have anything to do with this?
Sevv9220 1 month ago
they should've got a traditional Thai muay thai fighter to do this test
freakyzoid108 2 months ago
if he was doing a low kick, rather rhen a roundhouse kick, then he would have done much better for him self.
he also better hit with his leg,, not the foot wrist,, everybody knows that a leg hit ias harder then a ffootwrist hit :P
gaffelnskje 2 months ago
its all about technique.
TheDonziel 2 months ago
EDDY GORDO!!!! :-D
Diggy22 2 months ago
If only i could learn Capoeira, too bad im in PA smh :/
zivno9 2 months ago
@zivno9 oh shit same here lol
187BlackWolf 2 months ago
he is in Iron Fist movie
cscchua 2 months ago
you cant compare martial art styles only the players or fighters
26danielpatrick 2 months ago
Their logic behind how capoeira has the more effective kick is flawed. I acknowledge the power behind the kick, but even if he does hit with it he still has to start out from a crouching position and if he makes contact its gonna be more difficult of follow up. The karate, tkd, and muay thai kicks can be thrown one after another, making them more practical in a fighting situation.
senseidryan 2 months ago
muay tay was like "SHHH SHHH SHH!!!!!"
wyCerBotMyNem 2 months ago
Where is Bruce Lee when you need him?
MrTheTechdeckdork 2 months ago
I practice Taekwondo and even I say this is crap. They had the Karateka perform a front kick. Everyone else executed their versions of the round house. HOW IS THIS EVEN A TEST????
Sevv9220 2 months ago 11
@Sevv9220 They said to perform their strongest kicks not a roundhouse. if u wanna blame sumfin blame the karateka guy
tontymantelpiece 1 month ago
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@tontymantelpiece Fine, I will, but just to point something out: Technically speaking, a side kick would be stronger than a roundhouse.
Though I'm really curious why the karateka would go for the front kick...
Sevv9220 1 month ago
@Sevv9220 thats fucking bull! i have a black belt in karate this is fixed fuck capauera o whatever
MrKarate22 1 month ago
@Sevv9220 i think what they tried to do is ask each representative to do the "signature kick" from their style...just happened that most of them did roundhouse variations -.-
sAmZy1993 1 month ago
@sAmZy1993 I'll admit that does make more sense
Sevv9220 1 month ago
@Sevv9220 You're right. The Capoeira guy had a lot of power but you have to keep in mind, the Muay Thai didn't compromise his balance and he hit faster, while the Capoeira guy had to get on the floor and then completely throw his whole body at the pad...instead of striking while maintaining a guard. And the front kick obviously isn't going to be as powerful. This test is pointless
holyhermit1 3 weeks ago
@holyhermit1 Just to play devil's advocate here, can it be argued that the Muay Thai roundhouse sacrifices the same amount of balance as with the Capoeira Martelo de negativa? (During the range of motion of the techniques, not so much what happens after.) Lateef's center of gravity was generally lower & he maintained at least 2 points of contact with the ground relatively more than the others.
ParkourEh 3 weeks ago
@Sevv9220 Precisely, the Karateka was in neat loss, he should have used mawashigeri as his technique.. I'm not sure if they demanded a front kick on purpose because Karate IS very powerful indeed.. :/ who knows.
shawasian 2 weeks ago
@Sevv9220 because that's karate's strongest kick
AtomikBomb813 2 weeks ago
I wish they would have rated it on the same kick for all styles, this way it would have been fairer and less for people to find "issues" with.
I would have also wished the Karate fighter would have been kyokushin or Ashihara or Enshin to see as they are used to Knockdown if the results would have been different
Oh my belief is ITF is much better than WTF!!! sorry
Dobbersky 2 months ago
tae kwon do is best!
khk5409 2 months ago
@pmack169 yes maybe so but it was a test of who had the strongest kick not who was the most sneaky when they attacked,
Aerial250 2 months ago
I didn't know Ronaldinho can fight like that..........
frilink 3 months ago 15
No wushu? T.T
shuaige15 3 months ago
Which mass do they use to calculate the Force?
kebakue 3 months ago
OUCH!
mrtruth1991 3 months ago
My maegeri is heavier than that even my left foot is ^^ and mawashigeri would have been a lot heavier... Why did he think doing a completely different kick than everybody else would be a good idea. wouldnt it be more interesting to compare if everybody did similar kicks.
i dont think that any style is better than any other but some martial artists suck :)
haraheggi 3 months ago
Lateef didnt even put momentum on it! LOVE IT!
DungaIpod 3 months ago
I heard somewhere that in this show they forgot to take in account the bodyweight of the kickers? Anyone who knows?
LXEagle 3 months ago
Nice experiment, surprising that Capoeira guy won the contest considering it is a type of dancing (?). But why did the karate guy choose a front kick?
LXEagle 3 months ago
@LXEagle the only reason i have, since doing karate for 12 years, is that the front kick is "spearlike" kick and would strike precisely and cause huge damage
but then again this is just my thought if anyone else has an opinion or a real reason please tell me as well
MyDeadman13 2 months ago
@MyDeadman13
I am sure it does, on a human body.
LXEagle 2 months ago
isnt this guy in Undisputed 3??
jona717corona 3 months ago
or the black guy is just stronger.
jledford72 3 months ago
Wooo I meet bren foster :) and shook his hand
KungFuFilmz 4 months ago
it's about speed, it's about move, it's about button mashing. that's eddie gordo. lol.
rahxun 4 months ago
it's just a theory,when you fighting in real situation,all of this doesn't matter~
NazrulSyah 4 months ago
Bruce Lee's theory is that no style is better than the other. It is the individual who utilizes that. In this day and age, that doesn't matter. Look at MMA..
EZA757 4 months ago
The Karate guy obviously has less training and conditioning then the other guys, you can't necessarily say it's the worst style, all you can conclude from the test is that the Karate fighter they recruited sucks.
The ratios though do offer an insight about the difference of the styles but you still can't say which is better.
Exult 4 months ago
@Exult it's not less training, 7th degree black takes plenty of training to gain. it's just they gave him the front kick, which is mainly used to create distance and push away the opponent to make room for stronger attacks like spinning back or roundhouse. the roundhouse is the best kick used in the tests they gave in terms of power. all style make use of all the different kicks, they just didn't allow them to use the same kick :\
HoneyReno 4 months ago
@HoneyReno exactly--if they really wanted to see who kicks harder, they should have had them all do each of their kicks and tested each front, round, etc kick against the others.
eamonob84 3 months ago
eddie gordo?
xdonnix 4 months ago
@xdonnix That's what I was thinking. They should have gotten a female Capoeira fighter that looks like Christie Monteiro.
Exult 4 months ago
ive seen alot of people in MMA cage move around to keep there opponent guessing and hard to hit... this would actually work if done right.. but would take alot of energy
theavatarstoneburner 4 months ago
this is stupid. tae kwon do = higher velocity and more powerful strike, yet capoeira wins???
syncopoly 4 months ago
@syncopoly what the document means is that if the two shots were at the same speed the capoeira would be more effective because it sends more mass inertia and making it more dangerous. the secret is in the amount of body mass that is the blow sends Lateef
scrollmacias 4 months ago
@syncopoly yea surely that means taekwondo wins as it gives the oppenent lesstime to react AND hits harder. Also the capoeira move would take more effort to do because tyou have to hold your entire weight and balance on one arm. Taekwondo wins anyday. more speed, power, and less energy required
Aerial250 3 months ago
you cant compare styles by letting 4 people kick a sandbag. What if one person trained more then the other or had a better night of sleep or whatever that would highly influence your results. Also they al should have performed a kick in the same angle on the bag. Because the straight forward kick uses different muscles and is used in other situations than a high or lowkick and thus in no way camperable to it.
waza801 5 months ago
Newsflash: Standing round kick is NOT the strongest kick in TKD. Should have tossed a good tornado round kick in there. Fancy, true, but like the capoeira kcik, uses the entire body mass to drive the kick home. If it lands it can put someone in the hospital through tournament vests.
axenome 5 months ago 2
Capoeira is something that Id love to learn, but there are not that many studios here in SD,
darkservantofheaven 5 months ago
why the hell did the karate practitioner choose the front kick as the disciplines strongest kick, it is the weakest by a significant ammount.
joeldunsdon 5 months ago
@joeldunsdon because capoeira kick had to be the strongest
evoL1293 5 months ago
A push kick is never as powerful as a roundhouse type kick, they should have had each fighter test that type of kick to the variety of their individual styles
crazymime 5 months ago
ITS CAP-WAY-THA, NOT CAP-WAY-RA!!!!!!
eulogaicarpify 5 months ago
Taekwondo <3
TheLuamiliu 5 months ago
@TheLuamiliu dude, a guy who is a black belt in taekwondo cant stand a chance against a BRAZILIAN who is a green-blue belt in capoeira, shure taekwondo has powerful long kicks, but if a taekwondo person dose a 10 foot long flying side kick to a person TRAINED in capoeira, he can just do a forward gainer to knock the person out of the air and on to his rear, i like both taekwondo and capoeira, but for speed, flexebility, and reflexes, i would choose capoeira
djman112122 5 months ago
gosh, you guys always fight on here about the styles, it just matters about the fighter himself.
02flipside0637 6 months ago
Capoeira Fighter did not do the "meia-lua is a kick that is very strong centripetal
(excuse the English-google translator)
edervandossantos 6 months ago
Oh and why didn't they measure the Mea lua de compasso instead. Much more centripedal force.
rage77 6 months ago
Jeebus, YouTube commenters... to even suggest that Capoeira be used in combat, oh the ignorance. Read up on it or try a couple of classes, movies have it all wrong.
rage77 6 months ago
I could have done a better front kick ^^
mmacritics 6 months ago
actually in my school i goto for taekwondo we are taught to treat all martial arts equally and to respect them equally as martial artist
scottyb1189 6 months ago
CAPOEIRA SON!!! LOL. Just kidding. All of these styles of martial art have their positive sides and negative sides. In my opinion, there is no superior martial art. I've taken Karate, Wing Chun, Hapkido and I am currently taking up Capoeira. So I can tell you this from experience: It's not the style of fighting but the effectiveness in which the fighter uses his/her style that wins the fight.
MrTcooke88 6 months ago 32
@MrTcooke88 Strongly agree with you, all arts has it weakness and strength, being able to recognize it is the beginning of a true martial artist. I find myself learning different arts to compensate for the weakness of aother, like yourself, I trained in Karate (Goju), Wing Chun (briefly), Muay Thai, Judo and Taekwon Do... people who bash other arts are shallow and refuse to admit that there are stronger people out there...
godwinel33 3 months ago
see, capoeira is not dance, I don't wanna be the man who Lateef gives a kick
TheWilliamSherman 6 months ago
I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect but seriously, I couldn't not IMAGINE any master of any form of Karate choosing a FRONT KICK for a test like this. You would choose a round kick, a spinning hook kick or a spinning back kick but NEVER would you choose a FRONT KICK!
ValkyereHowie 6 months ago
TAAEKWONDO SON!
BoneBeast 6 months ago
depends on the kicker. shoalin monks are most likely the hardest kickers in the world
kmtatyou 6 months ago
I do taekwondo my school is white tigers and the main title is yong in usa
Ruslan4021 7 months ago
i want to inform you that in capoeira you can find almost every kick from every martial art.. i trained in karate and now capoeira.. so there is really no point in arguing which kick is the strongest.. it depends on how you train....
mijalis09 7 months ago
lol karate simplest kick vs a complicated capoeira kick with your whole body behind it, seems fair
chippyni 7 months ago
@chippyni i bet you do karate
MrNathanasher 7 months ago
@MrNathanasher no taekwondo
chippyni 6 months ago
220 kmh and 1043 ???? deam its a car run 200 kmh hit a person i like capoeira kick also
DHSilvaHD 7 months ago
Esto es injusto, el Karateka tendria que haber tirado un Mawashi Geri para pdoer comparar realmente. De echo todos tendrian que tirar la misma patada para pdoer comprovar directamente, SIno me presento yo ahi con una pistola a ver quien es da el golpe mas mortal.
OverChampion85 7 months ago
they all have different body build, doesnt that kinda stuff up the test? if a person is physically stronger then the other person they would naturally hit/kick harder right?
jetsu115 7 months ago
@jetsu115 yes the bigger and heavier guys generally kick harder because when your kick you throw your body weight into the kick with the hips. Its not always the case though, they are small guys who can kick very hard.
Oahhraw 7 months ago
taekwondo is the master!!!!
CometShoot000 7 months ago 2
Taekwondo 4 ever.
music18500 7 months ago
Uhh... speed matters too. Why do they care so much about ratio as if speed is bad? Wouldn't you want high speed and high mass, not just high mass? A truck could be considered the best killing machine going at 1mph if you believe that aspect.
SoThisOneDude 8 months ago
@SoThisOneDude I thought that at first, but then I realised that they were looking for the most effective kick, as a kick. The speed varies due to different peoples ability, if the tae kwon do dude did the capoeira kick i bet he'd kick the highest of all.
Or to put it simply, if the capoeira kick was done at the same speed, it would rack up higher points
kosmad 7 months ago
Taekwondo is the best
rilindtaekwondo 8 months ago
why a front kick
jalen77232 8 months ago
A lot of people are forgeting things like timing, balance and many other factors. A static strike is nowhere near as powerful as a counter punching opportunity brought about by exploiting a mistake. Don't look at power from such a straight forward view, and don't be confused by relative and absolute power. If your style didn't look as powerful on this video don't worry about it.
YorkshireGripper 8 months ago
A poor experiment ,but nice to watch
MrTeamkikz 8 months ago
Muay thai is better becaz the dude didnt do a classic 360 muay thai kick which would be way strong
Use buakaw as the test next time
jaofas18 8 months ago
@jaofas18 The Karate and Tae Kwon-Do practitioners could also do the same kick, TKD is famous for its kicks imagine their most powerful kick. I feel Muay Thai is better than the others in a real combat situation. But don't use your wonderful grammar to state the obvious when everyone else watching the video knows that different kicks would result in a different result.
James2Johnson 6 months ago
Karate is way better then it is shown. THis karate guy is lightweight ,while others aren't. and round house kick is way stronger then maegeri
dowas115 8 months ago
@dowas115 Capoeira aint show full power too, Leteef crowder is maybe popular but he is no too skiled as some guys like anderson silva
MCShvabo 8 months ago
@MCShvabo anderson silva is a muay thai fighter and Brazilian Jiu Jisu guy...
crocgator44 8 months ago
@crocgator44 Anderson Sliva is master of 5 fightin disciplines, but in his profile they say only that 2 : (
MCShvabo 8 months ago
@crocgator44 he also does capoeira and other things
Rose4Triandafyllos 8 months ago
@MCShvabo what the hell you talking about dude?maybe anderson silva is a way better fighter but comparing to lateef in capoeira skill theres not even a single reason for comparison.Silva did capoeira when he was young(thats what i heared) and he started it again like 1-2 years ago.His belt is low grade and trust me capoeira cords are one of the most hard earned(and they require years) belts in martial arts.
Rose4Triandafyllos 8 months ago
@Rose4Triandafyllos If anyone no it that is me i am Corda Laranja in capoeira Senzala, but let me tell you somethink, Capoeiristas think about cordao like somethink on pants not like skill pointer, that s why in capoeira often lover class (Cordao) Capoerista play capoeira much better than some Instructor.
Silva is Yelow (Coda Amelarha) but he is skilled as some capoeira Instructors like Brian Cavalo and Leteef Crowder
MCShvabo 8 months ago
bruce lee kicks their ass...
marinuskristof 8 months ago
Everyone has his favorite kick.. and every one does his favorite kick better than the others.. for example.. most will agree that round house kick is the strongest, but MY back hook kick is stronger than MY round house kicks..
the guy who performed the front kick.. it could possibly be his favorite kick..
princesarberas 8 months ago
why would the karate guy do a front kick, i dont understand. ive seen karate guys do much better (and stronger) kicks than a front kick.. in muay thai a front kick is like a jab
NextGenRev 8 months ago
for those who say that the capoeira kick isnt efficient, this kick is done after avoiding and attack, thus crouching down on the ground, then rising up to strike the opponent. There is no need whatsoever to ask ur opponent to wait for u to perform the kick
rullsrose 8 months ago
If every body is doing a roundhouse kick, it is just comparing the strength of fighters and not the style --"
And if the karate man did a Front kick (mae geri), it is just because traditionaly, roud-house kick doesn't exist in karate, it is an invention for fighting sport made during the 20e century. But in my opinion, front kick lose in power what it gain in touching capacity, 'cause I find it is less easy to block than a round house kick.
Sadoruro 8 months ago 2
@Sadoruro you wrote:
1."If every body is doing a roundhouse kick, it is just comparing the strength of fighters and not the style --"
I AGREE WITH THAT
2. " traditionaly, roud-house kick doesn't exist in karate,"
IT DOES.. IT IS CALLED MAOSHI GERI
front kick lose in power what it gain in touching capacity, 'cause I find it is less easy to block than a round house kick."
THEIR ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO BLOCK A FRONT KICK.. THE BEST ONE IS BLOCK IN THE KNEE BEFORE IT'S RELEASED
princesarberas 8 months ago
@princesarberas 2. " " traditionaly, roud-house kick doesn't exist in karate,"
IT DOES.. IT IS CALLED MAOSHI GERI"
The right name is Mawashi geri. But, it is a technique invented by the japanese when they stole the karate to make it their national sport, in order to win in a fight sport. In the tradition of the Shuri Te and the Naha Te, the two arts from which the karate has been made, it does not exist. Just look at Kata of style that descend directly from those two arts
Sadoruro 8 months ago
@princesarberas (like mine, shito ryu, or another one shorinjy ryu), no one have a Mawashi geri inside. Mawashi geri is an invention of Japanese for fighting sport. But a so old invention that everybody think it is traditional.
Sadoruro 8 months ago
@princesarberas "3. front kick lose in power what it gain in touching capacity, 'cause I find it is less easy to block than a round house kick."
THEIR ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO BLOCK A FRONT KICK.. THE BEST ONE IS BLOCK IN THE KNEE BEFORE IT'S RELEASED"
Right their are. But in my opinion, their are a lot more way to block a Mawashi. And in the fierce of a battle, mawashi is a lot more slower kick than a Maie geri, easier to spot and then to block, and a blocked mawashi imply a lot more openings.
Sadoruro 8 months ago
@Sadoruro agreed :)
also you can dodge a maoshi.. but front kick can't be dodged that easily
princesarberas 4 months ago
why not 360 for takewondo?
lovelikefire93 9 months ago
@lovelikefire93 nice insight
JESUSISGREATEST 9 months ago
cmmon , trying to fool with mae geri , pls dont try to make karate look bad , coz everyone know a man with a bit common sense would have gone for a mowash geri or yoko geri
sharathep 9 months ago
@sharathep it was only to show the different kicks.hes not even a karate guy, hes taekwondo.simon rhee, american born korean.
yulaw3 8 months ago
@sharathep it was only to show the different kicks.hes not even a karate guy, hes taekwondo.simon rhee, american born korean actor.
yulaw3 8 months ago
shogun outkicked all these fruits in a more recent episode of fight science
armencho 9 months ago
@armencho shogun looked like a fruit himself in his most recent fight.
soooooo89 9 months ago
also consider that the karate kick struck the most vulnerable area and traveled the shortest distance.
fuegoyeago 9 months ago
-Simon Rhee "karate" has his 7th degree black belt in tae kwon do (a korean system) and only a 4th degree in hap ki do (the japanese system he was demonstrating)
-Bren Foster (tae kwon do) is a soap opera star
-Lateef Crowder (capoeira) is an actor
-Levi Kurtovich is a typical mma fighter.. I found nothing on him learning a pure system.
Just thought that was interesting.
fuegoyeago 9 months ago
lol at how he pronounces capoeira
soiyamate123 9 months ago 2
Muay Thai is the most vicious martial art, dancing and hugging like Capoeira and Juijitsu is not gonna help u on the street (:
Arreffone 9 months ago
@Arreffone Neither is muay thai if the guy is holding a gun. They are called martial ARTS for a reason.
meudeus110 9 months ago
this was shared on fb by tekken 6
petpetfernandez 9 months ago
The "karate guy", Simon Rhee, is actually a Tae Kwon Do master. He also played Dae Han in "Best Of The Best". In any case, the front kick / mae geri is definitely not the most powerful kick in Karate. Funny how none of them used what is considered to be the most powerful kick in martial arts, the back kick (dwi chagi / ushiro geri).
vromeos 9 months ago
@vromeos finally someone who noticed the same thing back kick is the most dangerous kick in the martial arts world hands down an the karate guy should of know not to do a groin kick that jus didnt make sense
Arshdeep757 9 months ago
Silly karate man. Front kicks don't compare to round houses.
CALEXICOLEEBOYZ 9 months ago 28
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@CALEXICOLEEBOYZ it really wouldn't have made a difference compared to the other styles.
JVThrillz 8 months ago
@CALEXICOLEEBOYZ front kick:the kick that retired Couture
corporacionmonstruo 6 months ago
@CALEXICOLEEBOYZ Round can be blocked easily....although it may,and probably will hurt,but if blocked properly,you won't break anything.Straight punches are faster,while still packing enough to take down.
5ky5tr1d3r 6 months ago
The got the actor for Eddy to do this? nice
shonuxs 9 months ago
Awesommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmme
smallworld91 10 months ago
Holy Shit its EDDIE GORDO!
Zeth0711 10 months ago 2
i strifoguristh klotsia tou chuck norris ta xei ola ;P
salva91ful 10 months ago
this is retarded how is the test valid if they all don't hit with the same type of kick? at least if it was all roundhouse kicks it'b be somewhat comparable
Scobehunter666 10 months ago
@Scobehunter666 They're testing their hardest kick.
shonuxs 9 months ago
@Scobehunter666 They're testing their fighting styles' most powerful kicks.
rockleeninja 9 months ago
lol nothing against capoeria but how is it the most efficient kick if taekwondo was faster and stronger lol, that sounds more efficient
SaB4563 10 months ago
@SaB4563 cause it depends on the person. If the capoeria dude was faster. Bam. Winner. cause he got the best force-velocity ratio
20nineaug94 9 months ago