I HATE love scenes, but that one temporarily melted my callousness away, and for a moment I felt that maybe there can be true love at first sight in the world.
So Far, this mini series has depicted many events of exactly what happened to these poor people. They should run it on t.v as a special to remind us all NEVER AGAIN!!!!
@CSATexan "If every Jewish and anti-nazi family in Germany had owned a Mauser rifle and twenty rounds of ammunition AND THE WILL TO USE IT, Adolf Hitler would be a little-known footnote to the history of the Weimar Republic." -- Aaron Zelman
Yes, it is kind of interesting how such a small amount of text was used for the feature film. I can not place Forgotten Soldier ( it sounds familiar ). Zaitsevs biography was great ( Notes of a Sniper)
@CSATexan. 1) They didn't believe things would get as terrible as they would. remember jews had been victims of pogroms, blood libels, and expulsions since the middle ages. They thought this would pass too. 2) they didn't have the weapons or the training. It was housewives, shop owners, and children up against heavily armed nazis with guns and tanks. They had no real means of getting weapons (who would sell to a Jew?) and they had no heads up to get any, they thought that the whole thing would
After centuries of the pogroms, persecution and outright killings. It stands to reason that doing the same thing as before would have resulted in a different outcome. Any nation who starts out by disarming its citizens is up to no good.
Just look at the USA and how the Indians and Blacks were denied the ownership of weapons.
@CSATexan May I add present-day Israel treating Palestines as second-rate humans, like the many Jewish grandparents of present Israelites themselves had undergone, to that ugly but true comparison? Why is the holocaust been used as an excuse to have Israel go its own way in the same vein the Nazis in Germany did from 1933-1945? And for those who misunderstand me: I am NOT a holocaust denier, I only try to keep your eyes open for the dangers of extremism rearing its ugly head always again!
@CSATexan Again: is the Jordan way an excuse for looking the other side in case of the Israeli way and vice versa? I strongly protest against ANY kind of maltreatment of my fellow man of whatever race, colour or belief by whatever party.
@CSATexan Oh help....not finished yet, dude? Try to READ my answer: " against ANY kind of maltreatment of my fellow man of whatever race, colour or belief by whatever party" . This means that any party of fellow men can be Jews, Arab Muslems, Arab christians (yes, they exist too), Hindus, European christians, Pagan community members , etc etc, depending on the situation concerned. If you still don't respect this view, then please stop your reactions, otherwise return to a constructive discussion
blow over. y would they buy weapons? 3) They did... but the outcome was not good. Ever hear of the Warsaw ghetto uprising? barely any Jews survived. Watched the movie Defiance? they fought back when they needed to defend themselves but ultimately the best method of staying alive was hiding and outlasting the war. & finally 4) If one person fought or rebelled the nazis not only killed him as revenge but his entire family and then some. for every 10 jews that fought back 100 more were punished
@PassTheSkittles Yeah, I have had a chance to meet ( and chat with a few times ) a fighter of the uprising. ( there happens to be an unrelated a video of him here on You Tube Max Glaubner ).
He was 13 or 14 when it started and quite literally the OPENING SHOT was fired from his living room and he was 4 feet away from the shooter.
This serie was presented in Colombia, South América, in 1979, in spanish and more than one person cried in from of the black and white TV sets. I was 9 so my parents didn´t let me watch it ´cause it was too violent. It was so successfull, that it was repeated. They let me watch it this time. I didn´t understand it so well ´cause I was a child, but when I was an adult, 27 years old, I bought the book and it made me cry. If you have this serie in spanish, please send me a messagge.
I can't believe this cunt ran out on his mother and sis and left them to the mercy of the nazis but he's willing to put his neck on the line for some random pussy he just met.
ddd1953 is correct...whether or not the Germans thought they might reach the united states Canada Mexico etc is debatable (they did have the German bund and fifth columnists etc) but they most definitely did have lists of Jews in other countries...fairly accurate estimations as well.
According to the one surviving copy of the Wannsee conference held in 1942, the Germans had plans for the "Evacuation" of Jews from England, Ireland, The United States, Mexico and just about everywhere else.
The fact that these countries were resisting the Nazis was of not taken into account.
Plans had to made for the ultimate victory they so believed and died trying for.
they had every intention--and hope--to conquer england, russia, and the US. had they done so, they'd have gone after jews there too. eventually, world conquest was their goal.
The story of Ruth does, indeed, include the words: "Entreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God."
Ruth, however, was not speaking to a man. They were spoken to a woman, Naomi, Ruth's widowed mother-in-law.
Those two should have taken off in the first place before this started. And Its ironic they arrested the girls father for being a zionist agent. He was arrested because he wanted a jewish homeland. The Nazis didn't just want the jews out of Europe, they wanted Jews worldwide exterminated.
Best scene in the flik. One last caress. Sweet.
Joebunkyss1 2 weeks ago
I HATE love scenes, but that one temporarily melted my callousness away, and for a moment I felt that maybe there can be true love at first sight in the world.
YambidiBlamBlam 1 month ago
Rudy is by far the best character
XxEdb0995xX 3 months ago
where will you go now? Into your bed, baby...
TheRealCritique 5 months ago
Beautiful lovers!
reginaDexant 6 months ago
"i used to be a proper girl.....but im a slut now who sleeps with jewish refugees five minutes after meeting them on the street.''
ARNTORXWINDIRX1184 6 months ago 2
So Far, this mini series has depicted many events of exactly what happened to these poor people. They should run it on t.v as a special to remind us all NEVER AGAIN!!!!
Donna1785 6 months ago
was going to say good series......then watched this episode & the start is like some dodgy german porno ffs.
NineInchRear1 6 months ago
@He101A There most certainly were some.
DandDskeeto 7 months ago
@manofgod30
Why didn't they fight?
They believed in Passive Resistance.
CSATexan 8 months ago
@CSATexan "If every Jewish and anti-nazi family in Germany had owned a Mauser rifle and twenty rounds of ammunition AND THE WILL TO USE IT, Adolf Hitler would be a little-known footnote to the history of the Weimar Republic." -- Aaron Zelman
DandDskeeto 7 months ago
@DandDskeeto
Even if only one in 10 would have owned a gun
and only one in ten of them would have used it.
It would have changed the outcome completely
Interesting choice of book Enemy at the Gates
I was kind of shocked how they took a few lines from the book and turned it into an entire movie. It should have centered more on the battle.
By chance have you read the Forgotten Soldier (which is also being tunred into a movie)
CSATexan 7 months ago
@CSATexan
Yes, it is kind of interesting how such a small amount of text was used for the feature film. I can not place Forgotten Soldier ( it sounds familiar ). Zaitsevs biography was great ( Notes of a Sniper)
DandDskeeto 7 months ago
@CSATexan. 1) They didn't believe things would get as terrible as they would. remember jews had been victims of pogroms, blood libels, and expulsions since the middle ages. They thought this would pass too. 2) they didn't have the weapons or the training. It was housewives, shop owners, and children up against heavily armed nazis with guns and tanks. They had no real means of getting weapons (who would sell to a Jew?) and they had no heads up to get any, they thought that the whole thing would
Bigblue2ful 7 months ago
@Bigblue2ful
After centuries of the pogroms, persecution and outright killings. It stands to reason that doing the same thing as before would have resulted in a different outcome. Any nation who starts out by disarming its citizens is up to no good.
Just look at the USA and how the Indians and Blacks were denied the ownership of weapons.
CSATexan 7 months ago
@CSATexan May I add present-day Israel treating Palestines as second-rate humans, like the many Jewish grandparents of present Israelites themselves had undergone, to that ugly but true comparison? Why is the holocaust been used as an excuse to have Israel go its own way in the same vein the Nazis in Germany did from 1933-1945? And for those who misunderstand me: I am NOT a holocaust denier, I only try to keep your eyes open for the dangers of extremism rearing its ugly head always again!
sendanor 6 months ago
@sendanor
Doesn't Jordan also treat Palestinians the same way if not worse???
Why are Jews singled out???
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan Again: is the Jordan way an excuse for looking the other side in case of the Israeli way and vice versa? I strongly protest against ANY kind of maltreatment of my fellow man of whatever race, colour or belief by whatever party.
sendanor 6 months ago
@sendanor
There have been over 16,000 deadly terrorist attacks committed by Muslims (mostly against other Muslims) since 911.
I would suggest you start there.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@sendanor
I am trying to figure out why you only care about Muslims when Jews are involved. Especially Muslims that have been known to attack and murder Jews.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan Oh help....not finished yet, dude? Try to READ my answer: " against ANY kind of maltreatment of my fellow man of whatever race, colour or belief by whatever party" . This means that any party of fellow men can be Jews, Arab Muslems, Arab christians (yes, they exist too), Hindus, European christians, Pagan community members , etc etc, depending on the situation concerned. If you still don't respect this view, then please stop your reactions, otherwise return to a constructive discussion
sendanor 6 months ago
@sendanor
You keep saying ANY TREATMENT while you focusing in on Jews.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan Dude.....get a LIFE!
sendanor 6 months ago
@sendanor
Standing up for the oppressed people of the world is a pretty good life.
Come on join me and condemn the Muslims that have committed over 16,000 deadly terrorist attacks since 911
Just yesterday 7 People in Pakistan while riding a minibus were machine gunned by Muslim rivals
CSATexan 6 months ago
blow over. y would they buy weapons? 3) They did... but the outcome was not good. Ever hear of the Warsaw ghetto uprising? barely any Jews survived. Watched the movie Defiance? they fought back when they needed to defend themselves but ultimately the best method of staying alive was hiding and outlasting the war. & finally 4) If one person fought or rebelled the nazis not only killed him as revenge but his entire family and then some. for every 10 jews that fought back 100 more were punished
Bigblue2ful 7 months ago
@manofgod30 Search the Warsaw Uprising.
PassTheSkittles 9 months ago
@PassTheSkittles Yeah, I have had a chance to meet ( and chat with a few times ) a fighter of the uprising. ( there happens to be an unrelated a video of him here on You Tube Max Glaubner ).
He was 13 or 14 when it started and quite literally the OPENING SHOT was fired from his living room and he was 4 feet away from the shooter.
DandDskeeto 7 months ago
@PassTheSkittles oops Max Glauben should have proof read more closely and I guess not exactly unrelated video.
DandDskeeto 7 months ago
@SomePeopleLikeThem
monkey ,...go to your fucken Aryan gathering ...and spread your shit there..you ll have more fun among shitheads like youself)
Kbrt111 10 months ago
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This serie was presented in Colombia, South América, in 1979, in spanish and more than one person cried in from of the black and white TV sets. I was 9 so my parents didn´t let me watch it ´cause it was too violent. It was so successfull, that it was repeated. They let me watch it this time. I didn´t understand it so well ´cause I was a child, but when I was an adult, 27 years old, I bought the book and it made me cry. If you have this serie in spanish, please send me a messagge.
TheAlejandropc39 10 months ago
I can't believe this cunt ran out on his mother and sis and left them to the mercy of the nazis but he's willing to put his neck on the line for some random pussy he just met.
What a piece of shit.
AngloKitten 11 months ago
Geoff, who cares...They are beshert anyway...And White, they were secular Jews, NOT frumm...
SuperHadassa1 11 months ago
he is jewish and has not heard of Ruth?
whitesquirrel7 1 year ago
Tovah Feldshuh--beautiful
koyunbaba73 1 year ago
Dang....he works fast!!! :)
Kirstabird 1 year ago 2
@Kirstabird
if you watch the video she is more the one doing the fast work
whitesquirrel7 1 year ago
just met and you're already in bed together!
geoffybellofiore 1 year ago 4
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Damn they are quick!!!!
SuperNancy90210 1 year ago
Rudy is hooottt!
jfrencher 1 year ago
Helena's beautiful.
olimac909 1 year ago
i just realised that rudy looks like Hunter parish
grimvillian 1 year ago
This woman would be totally my type. Helena, you are a goddess.
MightySharpAndOceans 1 year ago 3
I'm guessing the Czech woman spoke German.
vancanman2 1 year ago
PRAGUE 1940
suelizjohnson 2 years ago
she´s quick off the bat!! Girls should learn with helena... can´t wait to see what happened
danieln1 2 years ago 2
ddd1953 is correct...whether or not the Germans thought they might reach the united states Canada Mexico etc is debatable (they did have the German bund and fifth columnists etc) but they most definitely did have lists of Jews in other countries...fairly accurate estimations as well.
JamesArranMcGregor 2 years ago
BenBarfuss,
You need to check YOUR sources. I have looked at copies kept UCLA during my graduate studies which are open to anyone to read.
The Nazis held in their accounts that all the jews, everywhere, would eventually fall into thier hands
Deluded, I know. But it is a written and recorded FACT
The papers exist and you can go and see them or visit the U.C.L. A. website and search for them your self.
ddd1953 2 years ago
According to the one surviving copy of the Wannsee conference held in 1942, the Germans had plans for the "Evacuation" of Jews from England, Ireland, The United States, Mexico and just about everywhere else.
The fact that these countries were resisting the Nazis was of not taken into account.
Plans had to made for the ultimate victory they so believed and died trying for.
And not just the Jews...
Nazi accountants run amok.
ddd1953 2 years ago
What a load of crap! Mills and Boon is Shakespeare compared to this.
rabengeraun 2 years ago
hmmm. i'll definitely do some extra research on this matter. thanks.
NYer79 2 years ago
they had every intention--and hope--to conquer england, russia, and the US. had they done so, they'd have gone after jews there too. eventually, world conquest was their goal.
NYer79 2 years ago
rudy doesnt mess about lol
wken666wkd 2 years ago 5
The story of Ruth does, indeed, include the words: "Entreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God."
Ruth, however, was not speaking to a man. They were spoken to a woman, Naomi, Ruth's widowed mother-in-law.
gazaguy 2 years ago 2
Those two should have taken off in the first place before this started. And Its ironic they arrested the girls father for being a zionist agent. He was arrested because he wanted a jewish homeland. The Nazis didn't just want the jews out of Europe, they wanted Jews worldwide exterminated.
mainestategop 3 years ago 8
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If that was their real intention, we can all agree the Nazis failed miserably.
IvanAtlas 3 years ago
they are so cute :D
Shniki2000 3 years ago 12
these poor poor people! they went through so much :(
Shniki2000 3 years ago 28