When our CIA supported the Taliban covertly in the 80's their strategy was to draw the Soviets into a Nam style quagmire to help bleed out their resources and help us win the cold war.
Some say it worked well and helped support our goals.
How arrogant have we become that we are going down the same road.
We didn't win the Cold War, we just held out longer than the Soviets...
agreed. the COLD WAR wasn't a war. I served in NATO during the 80's. it was all BS to increase the arms, so gov't could make money off of weapons manufacturers. the Soviets tried to fight the Taliban and we gave the terrorists Stinger missiles. most Americans are too fucking stupid to know this .
I swear when I try explaining to people we are getting screwed over by war corporatist in government they always treat me like I'm a crazy conspiracy nut.
I can't imagine what Obama is going to say in his speech that will change the fact we cannot benefit from having a large military footprint in this region.
I wonder when Matthew Hoh is going to run for public office.
NOOO!! NOT left/right, the democrats are not the left, their collective agenda is on the right, there is just a progressive minority within the dems (denis kusinitch)
I voted for Obama but I am not satisfied so far. endless war, unemployment rate through the roof, and more money being made and given to the rich. since the economy was in Bush's hand for 8 yrs, he gets most of the blame. But if there are no solutions by the end of Obama's term, I'm going to be piss
"moderate" shit, he's just BUSH 2.The plan was PULL OUT!
How's the CHANGE working for our 2nd Vietnam? How's it working for you? If you have invested with the Republicons, you should be doing GREAT. NOW we have the EMAILS that have EXPOSED THE IMF/UN "CLIMATE CHANGE" SCAM.
If you old enough, you can remember when enforced corporate legislation's cleaned up our rivers and lakes. We didn't need the UN/IMF/Chicago "carbon stock market" to do it either.
Obama's plan was to pull out of Iraq, but he promised the exact opposite for Afghanistan very clearly since he was a candidate. Read the transcript on the first Obama/McCain debate. He clearly said he will send more troops to Afghanistan.
No surrpise he was going to add more troops. Business as usual. Did you really expect obama to go against the grain and actually try to stop the war? lol. That takes strength and brains. Obama is all talk.
Paul and nader are both talk concerning the War's, Kucinich has been working for the end much longer than both. Check the floor speeches and resolutions Congressman Kucinich has done. Then check Paul's.
Your stupit. Kucinich calls for impeachment on the floor of Congress. What did Paul say about that? He could have co-sponsered the bill, did he? Time and time again Kucinich brings things to the floor for vote! Remember the vote to end war? guess who, no not Nader, no not Paul(silence actually), WAS KUCINICH. Know it, check it, believe it.
Shows how wise I am. Your original comment was Kucinich is all talk no substance. The others are substance. Do you see what I am getting at? All talk is just wrong. He is all work. So you think cause you are still in school, still learning you know more? You were about 10 years old when I started waking up sonny.
"How America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination.
What better way for Obama to dignify and show respect for having been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize than to expand the 'war' in Afghanistan by putting an additional 35,000 service personnel in harms way.
A 'war' that has gone on for 8 years with absolutely nothing to show for it.
This so-called 'war' in Afghanistan was'nt ever really meant to be won.
All it's turned out to be was what it was always intended to be....a spend fest for the Military Industrial Complex & their contractor friends.
He's not. He's gonna be just like bush and have us in another fuck up war for years to come. I'm not voting anymore unless I see some improyments from obama and so far I'm not seeing it. I wouldn't be surprise if unemployment goes up 20.8 percent down the road.
An NWO, CIA, opium, oil pipeline, and military base agenda. The CIA needs the illegal opium revenue to fund its secret missions that it doesn't want to have to ask the gov't for money for because it doesn't want congress to know what it's up to. For anyone who doubts this, research the dramatic rise in opium levels since the US invasion. Actually, research everything I just said.
I've had it up to hear of all these dixiecrats and repping the pubic off fucks coming in office and fuckin up this country. People are out of work and he wants to add more troops. I see why Malcolm x was against voting. NOTHING CHANGES IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
just come home, not just Afghanistan come home from everywhere. want to help 3rd world countries bomb them with food aid, restore American hope freedom and prosperity around the world, if you need weapons/defense join NATO then we sell you our own weapons at auction. win/win more money saved and gained by us, we kinda need it. a country in debt leads to people in debt and vice versa. and lets pay more taxes, inflation is just another kind of tax
You right daguy1234. He's gonna end the war in Iraq and have the troops in afghanistan. One way or another, "IT'S COMPLETE BULLSHIT." We not moving in the right direction.
finish the cunts!.
paulbutkiss 2 years ago
And this guy won the nobel peace prize...
No wonder America gets attacked so often.
RedPiII 2 years ago
Let's ask the Russians how to "Win" in Afghanistan.
Raise taxes and starting the draft will end these wars.
No pain no gain just more of the same.
FlowerClown 2 years ago
When our CIA supported the Taliban covertly in the 80's their strategy was to draw the Soviets into a Nam style quagmire to help bleed out their resources and help us win the cold war.
Some say it worked well and helped support our goals.
How arrogant have we become that we are going down the same road.
We didn't win the Cold War, we just held out longer than the Soviets...
Now the empire is starting to come apart.
revenge53142 2 years ago 3
agreed. the COLD WAR wasn't a war. I served in NATO during the 80's. it was all BS to increase the arms, so gov't could make money off of weapons manufacturers. the Soviets tried to fight the Taliban and we gave the terrorists Stinger missiles. most Americans are too fucking stupid to know this .
cyber9sockpuppet 2 years ago 2
Well at least someone agrees with me.
I swear when I try explaining to people we are getting screwed over by war corporatist in government they always treat me like I'm a crazy conspiracy nut.
I can't imagine what Obama is going to say in his speech that will change the fact we cannot benefit from having a large military footprint in this region.
I wonder when Matthew Hoh is going to run for public office.
revenge53142 2 years ago 2
amen bigc
huskerbird1 2 years ago
Payment would only come in the form of the arrest of President Bush.
waveoflight 2 years ago 2
I wish i had an infinite line of credit like obama.
matsutakneatche 2 years ago
Like the US?
CillaF1 2 years ago 2
CHANGE!
mikheii 2 years ago
This is gonna be Obama's Bay of Pigs!
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
Left/right dem/rep same corporate agenda.
dyl0n 2 years ago 7
NOOO!! NOT left/right, the democrats are not the left, their collective agenda is on the right, there is just a progressive minority within the dems (denis kusinitch)
MikeRoch6969 2 years ago
I voted for Obama but I am not satisfied so far. endless war, unemployment rate through the roof, and more money being made and given to the rich. since the economy was in Bush's hand for 8 yrs, he gets most of the blame. But if there are no solutions by the end of Obama's term, I'm going to be piss
josepv3 2 years ago 5
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xRSCx 2 years ago
no one learned a bloody thing from nam
Mahoivlich 2 years ago 7
yes! this is our vietnam! FUCK
LoryLandskipper 2 years ago
Where are all the HOPE AND CHANGE shilltards on this?
HOPE in one hand, BUSH in the other.
Oh yeah, nice EMAILS THAT PROVE THE IMF/UN "CLIMATE CHANGE" SCAM.
bigc028282 2 years ago 3
Where are all the "Obama's change will ruin us" shills?
Why has the right tried SO HARD to paint Obama as an extreme leftist when all his actions point to moderate?!
LoryLandskipper 2 years ago
"moderate" shit, he's just BUSH 2.The plan was PULL OUT!
How's the CHANGE working for our 2nd Vietnam? How's it working for you? If you have invested with the Republicons, you should be doing GREAT. NOW we have the EMAILS that have EXPOSED THE IMF/UN "CLIMATE CHANGE" SCAM.
If you old enough, you can remember when enforced corporate legislation's cleaned up our rivers and lakes. We didn't need the UN/IMF/Chicago "carbon stock market" to do it either.
HOPE in one hand, BUSH in the other.
bigc028282 2 years ago 2
Obama's plan was to pull out of Iraq, but he promised the exact opposite for Afghanistan very clearly since he was a candidate. Read the transcript on the first Obama/McCain debate. He clearly said he will send more troops to Afghanistan.
minasoliman 2 years ago
to deligitmize the President. the right wing doesn't care about reality. they'll say Obama is a liberal even when he is really a moderate.
realbleamer 2 years ago
I'm wondering when the Russians are going to make their Rambo movies, they should have more than enough material by now.
BeortheMad 2 years ago
No surrpise he was going to add more troops. Business as usual. Did you really expect obama to go against the grain and actually try to stop the war? lol. That takes strength and brains. Obama is all talk.
lennyneroau 2 years ago 3
war or healthcare?
let's make him choose.
TheElefaunt 2 years ago
Should we spend our money killing tens of thousands of innocent people or saving lives?
Decisions, decisions.
ReliableInsider 2 years ago 2
if he doesn't pull out by 2012,
finally someone that wants peace and isn't just talk like Dennis Kucinich,Ralph Nader,and Ron Paul can shine.
this war will never is this guy an idiot
people hate us for good reason,
we need to lend hands not chop them off and then no one can hate us.
TheElefaunt 2 years ago
Paul and nader are both talk concerning the War's, Kucinich has been working for the end much longer than both. Check the floor speeches and resolutions Congressman Kucinich has done. Then check Paul's.
VeohBlows 2 years ago
To say Paul is all talk about the war is beyond ridiculous,
his voting is completely clear of voting for funding or getting into a war,
his whole political belief system is non intervention staying out of conflicts,
but it's obvious you are un-informed on this
given you even said nader is all talk given the main reason he runs is to stay out of wars and end wars,
do you even have any idea who these men are or their history.
obviously not.
TheElefaunt 2 years ago 2
Your stupit. Kucinich calls for impeachment on the floor of Congress. What did Paul say about that? He could have co-sponsered the bill, did he? Time and time again Kucinich brings things to the floor for vote! Remember the vote to end war? guess who, no not Nader, no not Paul(silence actually), WAS KUCINICH. Know it, check it, believe it.
VeohBlows 2 years ago
I am stupid you mean,
you can't spell and I take political science and u.s. geo,
i think i know a little more about these guys then you,
Dennis is great,but Paul considered the war un-constitutional
and for that very reason would pull out as soon as elected
instead of pressing a bill to say he could
ask Dennis he loves Paul they have worked together
on quite a few issues.
even Kucinich would argue against you on this,ha.
TheElefaunt 2 years ago
plus how is nader going to vote when he isn't even on the floor
it just shows how little you know about these guys
have you read any of nader's or paul's books,
they are the most consistent men in politics
and both are consistent on what they think of this war and war in general.
TheElefaunt 2 years ago
Shows how wise I am. Your original comment was Kucinich is all talk no substance. The others are substance. Do you see what I am getting at? All talk is just wrong. He is all work. So you think cause you are still in school, still learning you know more? You were about 10 years old when I started waking up sonny.
VeohBlows 2 years ago
Veohblows is right, I think you need to study some more, stop just taking the information they hand you, dig. Dumbass.
highcrimes105 2 years ago
This War should have been a sacrifice instead of buying houses and suvs.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
So many sheep drank the kool-aid of "Hope and Change" and all you got was a darker skinned Bush on steroids.
danbowski40 2 years ago 7
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danbowski40 2 years ago
Obama adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Book: The Grand Chessboard
"How America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination.
Obama puppet.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago 3
What better way for Obama to dignify and show respect for having been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize than to expand the 'war' in Afghanistan by putting an additional 35,000 service personnel in harms way.
A 'war' that has gone on for 8 years with absolutely nothing to show for it.
This so-called 'war' in Afghanistan was'nt ever really meant to be won.
All it's turned out to be was what it was always intended to be....a spend fest for the Military Industrial Complex & their contractor friends.
ZedAlfa273 2 years ago 7
1,000 cuts: afghanistan, pakistan, iraq, iran, somalia, yemen, ETC. we are bleeding out. let's see how smart obama is. Gd help us.
elephantinpajamas 2 years ago
"We need a different strategy" The US occupation needs to GET the hell out of there and bring our troops home. NOW. Were not wanted over there.
xxashyy 2 years ago 4
He's not. He's gonna be just like bush and have us in another fuck up war for years to come. I'm not voting anymore unless I see some improyments from obama and so far I'm not seeing it. I wouldn't be surprise if unemployment goes up 20.8 percent down the road.
harlem0987 2 years ago 3
it's ashame how we really don't have a president to stand up for the people.
hstone39 2 years ago 5
Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't we just bring our troops home and spend all that money back here in the good ole' U.S.
jayrod59 2 years ago 9
I'm with you, jayrod59. Why recreate Vietnam. There has to be a NWO agenda behind all of this because it just makes no sense otherwise
sireel 2 years ago 3
An NWO, CIA, opium, oil pipeline, and military base agenda. The CIA needs the illegal opium revenue to fund its secret missions that it doesn't want to have to ask the gov't for money for because it doesn't want congress to know what it's up to. For anyone who doubts this, research the dramatic rise in opium levels since the US invasion. Actually, research everything I just said.
bigb47 2 years ago 4
I've had it up to hear of all these dixiecrats and repping the pubic off fucks coming in office and fuckin up this country. People are out of work and he wants to add more troops. I see why Malcolm x was against voting. NOTHING CHANGES IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
harlem0987 2 years ago 2
just come home, not just Afghanistan come home from everywhere. want to help 3rd world countries bomb them with food aid, restore American hope freedom and prosperity around the world, if you need weapons/defense join NATO then we sell you our own weapons at auction. win/win more money saved and gained by us, we kinda need it. a country in debt leads to people in debt and vice versa. and lets pay more taxes, inflation is just another kind of tax
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Dewdaahman 2 years ago
The American people don't have a say so. They never had a say so.
I remember that Anti-War march during the Bush Administration. The politicians forget...the majority of the American people want the troops home.
How hard is this to comprehend?
Pvtjamesryan2 2 years ago 10
Hello, people!! Obama said he'd end the war in IRAQ! Not AFGHANISTAN! I remember him saying "move the troops in Iraq to Afghanistan"
daguy1234 2 years ago
You right daguy1234. He's gonna end the war in Iraq and have the troops in afghanistan. One way or another, "IT'S COMPLETE BULLSHIT." We not moving in the right direction.
harlem0987 2 years ago 3
In my subscriptions feed the title was cut short and it said: "Adding 35,000 Troops! This Is Bu..."
I lol'd hard.
NuLLx42 2 years ago
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