Gettysburg deleted scene 9 - Trimble at Pickett's Charge

[televisionsover]

Many thanks for sharing these deleted scenes. This is my favourite film and I've never seen them, so thanks again!

[SouthernPacific8984]

General Trimble was shot in his leg. I don't recall ever reading that he was shot in the hand, anyway this was a great scene. It adds to the sorrow of the story. Why did they remove it from the movie?

[rob9641]

@SouthernPacific8984 Maybe he grabbed his leg with his hand. Anyway, you can see these very gloves at Sweeney's Tavern at Farnsworth's in Gettysburg.

[SouthernPacific8984]

@rob9641 It's prob. there so we can see that he's wounded without going to another camera shot of his leg bleeding.

[901MovieMaker]

@SouthernPacific8984 I think it might have been it was the closest to uneeded they had when they were deleting scenes

[JPH1138]

Re: the accents, oddly enough English and Australian actors are fairly popular for playing Southerners. The most recognisable American accents (ie that we hear in the media most) on the East Coast and California tend to be from the back of the mouth, whereas a Southern accent is more from the front of the mouth and slightly nasal, like the various British accents. (But there's an awful lot of drawl to master of course..)

[mastino84dux]

ciao ragazzi sono un grande appassionato della guerra civile americana e soprattutto di questo film, ma sono italiano e non riesco a capire questa scena. Potete gentilmente dirmi cosa dice il Gen.Trimble? grazie

[1oldgit]

Find you guys discussing the various accents very interesting as something I'd never thought anyone would be too bothered with. In the U.K. there are many regional accents and within small areas.

These are two fantastic films that I watch now and again. Shame the 3rd was never made. One day I'd love to visit the Civil War sites especially Gettysburg.

[panthercreek60]

What's the difference between new england & The South? If new england wanted to secede nobody would try to stop them.

[panthercreek60]

regarding Sheen v Duvall, I think Duvall was more convincing. His accent was easily much better. Non-Southern actors NEVER get the accent right but it seems only Southerners can detect this. The man playing Armistead came across as a whiny baby-something Gen Armistead was certainly not. Gen Trimble was a 60 year old bad ass & I thought this movie delivered that. Berringers hat was ridiculously large & all the beards were awful fakes. but I still enjoyed the movie. i just wish we had won. Ha!

[stellalouise1]

@panthercreek60 Though I liked Sheen's Lee better than Duvall's, you are very correct in saying that no American actor who wasn't southern has ever, ever, EVER gotten the accent right. It is impossible for them. It is interesting to note that British actors can do it. The accents must be naturally much closer to each other. When I saw Jude Law in Cold Mountain, I would have sworn he was a local. (I am from North Carolina) There are many other examples. Yankees simply can not do it. :-)

[rob9641]

@stellalouise1 There isn't one Southern accent - there are a lot of them. Virginians sound different from Texans, who sound different from Tennesseeans, and for that matter Northern Virginians sound different from Eastern Virginians, and so on. Certain areas of Tennessee are downright Cockney. I also suspect that the accents in 1863 were different from the accents now.

[stellalouise1]

@rob9641 You are quite right. There are many different southern accents. There are a few different ones within a 50 mile radius of where I live. An outsider may not be able to detect any difference, I don't know. I have only noticed that no American actor can nail ANY of them. I have heard several British actors completely nail a few different kinds. It's interesting.

[rob9641]

@stellalouise1 Just curious - what would you say was off about Sam Elliott's Kentucky accent? Or any of the others if you care to comment.

[stellalouise1]

@rob9641 I don't think Sam Elliott's accent is off at all. He is from California, but he seems to talk like that anyway in real life. It's old time western, I suppose. I love Tom Berenger, he is a great actor and did as well as he could with the accent but I hear his northern accent all over the place. I love Lang too but he is better with the more generic one (Avatar) than the Virginia one he tried here and as Jackson. Sheen flunks the accent but I still prefer his Lee. :-) Just my opinion.

[jorianhudson29]

I think every deleted scene should be put back in and a special edition DVD released.

[1967mustanggta]

check out this deleted scene-

Civil War Taylor Swift

here we have the 14th Indiana on the second day only moments before they are ordered to charge through Cemetery Hill to get at the Lousiana Tigers and save Rickett's battery.

This is ugly and it may be why they deleted it.

[MrChristo93]

During Pickett's Charge Trimble had to have his leg amputated. He couldn't be moved for fear of infection, and as a result was captured by the Union.

[Hiraghm]

Good ole Blank Reg :(

[Shafeone]

Should have been called the Trimble/Pickett/Pettigrew charge. Johnston Pettigrew was quite the superb officer. He was the first man to raise the alarm (dismissed by Heth and Hill) that there were Union regulars at Gettysburg. He knew Buford's men he saw on June 30 weren't "militia." Then he fought bravely on July 1. And THEN took his boys all they way there and back on July 3. After surviving all that, the poor guy was killed in a small rear action at Falling Waters a week later!

[Sisyphus27]

What does he say after "All hell?"

[rob9641]

@Sisyphus27 "all hell can't take it"

[parafleet]

@Sisyphus27 He says, "I'm sorry, Lord, for owning slaves and fighting for rich whites to own blacks. Let me in...please...?"

[Hiraghm]

@parafleet - which is their greater sin in your socialist eyes.... owning blacks or being rich?

Any sympathy for the millions of whites who were owned as slaves down the ages?

no, of course not... that wouldn't be politically correct.

[parafleet]

@Hiraghm You are an assumptive racist. All slavery in any time is evil. Becoming rich through honest moral means is fine with me, Adolf.

[Mahbu]

@Hiraghm

Of course there was sympathy. But consider how far removed we are and consider that by the time black slavery was in place, white slavery had all but vanished and that "slavery" as a whole was seen as wrong. The only reason blacks were still being used as slaves was because they were viewed as inferior and beneath humans.

Also consider that slavery differed throughout the ages. For instance, compare and contrast roman slaves to black slaves. You'll realize how stupid you are.

[zipsrule]

@Mahbu Maybe you wouldn't mind being a slave under Roman conditions then ? You can start Monday.

[Mahbu]

@zipsrule

We both know that's impossible and above all else a straw man argument that holds little weight and proves very little.

What we do know is that Roman slaves were treated harshly in the past which led to several slave revolts. What we also know is that Roman Emperors began giving substantial rights to slaves such as the right to complain in court of unfair treatment and protection from being killed by their owners on a whim. (next comment).

[Mahbu]

@zipsrule

Blacks? Couldn't get a fair trial even up to the 1960's. They often faced all white juries. During the slavery era, blacks weren't even seen as people but things, property. Roman slaves, at least fared better.

[MMSMikey]

"give em' double canister, that's it, Cushing, double canister!"

[rickcee]

Ummm...can we remember please that while the film "Gettysburg" is probably very accurate in some details, A) this happened almost 150 years ago, and, B) Michael Shaara's book, "The Killer Angels," on which this film is based, was admittedly fiction set in actual history, and was written roughly 110 years after the battle. Certainly, there is a lot of truth in his research. But also, to believe that dialogue was as we heard in the film or read in the book is ridiculous at best. Great work though

[rob9641]

@rickcee - Most of the dialogue is imagined, but some of it comes from the writings of the actual people. They were far more elaborate speakers in those days too. I remember an old Virginia lawyer I knew - he'd be about 110 now - and he sounded every bit like Robert E. Lee does in this film.

[rickcee]

@rob9641 Oh, I know. Believe me. I was very close friends with a very famous illustrator of the south who died 15 or more years ago, George I. Parrish, Jr. In fact, I was his New York rep. He was a font of history references, especially the War Between the States (as a self-respecting southern gent always referred to it). Even though he was a relatively "modern" man, even he spoke more like a Civil War general than a current good ol' boy. But Duvall would have been better than Sheen, yes?

[stellalouise1]

@rickcee This Southerner prefers Sheen's Lee. Duval got the accent better (his family is from Virginia) but he was too old for the part. His Lee was old and dull. Lee was only in his 50's. Almost every description I've read of Lee mentioned his "lively", "intelligent", "quick" "comprehending", etc,. eyes and great energy. There was a vitality in him and there is one in Sheen. He seem to have brought that into the role with him, while slowing down his speech and manner to a Southern pace.

[rickcee]

@stellalouise1 Thanks for adding that. Given the history, I'm convinced you're correct. I hadn't thought that much about it :)

[Shafeone]

@stellalouise1 Supposedly during the Penna campaign, a northern woman was defiantly waving the Stars and Stripes at the reb legions marching through her town when Lee himself rode up to her. She looked up at him, stopped waving the flag and clasped her hands together and exclaimed: "Oh how I wish he were OURS!"

[robh64]

@stellalouise1 upper 50's

[stellalouise1]

@robh64 Yes, Lee was in his upper 50's in the war but Duval was over 70 when he played him and he just seemed to play him "old". Duval is one of my favorite actors and he can't do a poor job in my opinion, but I think someone else would have been better for that role. Just say'in....

[rickcee]

@stellalouise1  Yep...I agree now.

[rickcee]

@stellalouise1 Since first answering this topic, I've see both Sheen's portrayal and Duvall's again, and you guys are right. Sheen's is more in keeping with what we read about Lee's demeanor, although it does not show enough of his quick rise to anger very much. For a second, while scolding Stuart for his long absence but only for a second. Anyway...Sheen's I agree now, is better.

[bluegreydude4]

@rob9641 Good point. The dialogue created by a writer in a work of historical fiction is drawn largely on their knowledge of the period...customs, manners, way of speaking. What they then try to do is blend that with what has been written by the people who were involved and left a written record. What you need to remember is that many of the 'memoirs' that were written about the Civil War were written many years after the actual events when time and a waning memory altered the facts.

[TheTrimby1973]

@rickcee Of the charge on the third day of Gettysburg, Trimble said: "If the men I had the honor to command that day could not take that position, all hell couldn't take it." It is a very foregone conclusion that General Trimble did say these words, but as you have pointed out, more than likely not on that day. It sounds as if he is asked or remarked later months or years. The writers put it here for more of an emphasis on his words.

[117rebel]

GO SOUTH!!!

[ruskybalboa]

Why the hell do they have deleted scenes in THIS movie!! Fuck it, it's already a 4 and a half hour movie!!

[rickcee]

@ruskybalboa Great point, rusky

[yakchirscarlson]

why did they take this one out?! now, it makes sense when they show poor old trimble getting shot, at the fence.

[bjclemmens22]

@yakchirscarlson I think the guy getting shot at the fence was Colonel Patton, (played by Ted Turner) who was killed at Gettysburg. Trimble was wounded and lost a leg I think.

[galoon]

@bjclemmens22 Yep, Ted Turner was portraying Tazewell Patton here.

[rickcee]

@bjclemmens22 Wait a minute! Are you saying that Ted was killed at Gettysburg? Why, I coulda sworn I just saw him on TV a few nights ago going on about some damned thing or another.

[Mahbu]

@rickcee

His Bison, I believe, or was it a buffalo? He loves talking about it on Conan.

[slideharp1]

Why was this deleted? PC was the climax of the movie and the chaos of such a battle can't be overdone..i.e, the more, the better.

[keicher09]

The soundtrack for this movie is incredible!

[Vladimast]

@keicher09 absolutely, Randy Edelman is a great composer.

[rickcee]

@keicher09 You know, I didn't think I liked it very much the first time I heard it, which of course was during the first time I saw the movie. I didn't like it because it was all too anthemic. Guess what? The Civil War IS anthemic! If ever there was an anthemic event on our soil, it's 1861-1865, and you can add in the late 50s while all the anger was building. This soundtrack is the shit! I can't stop humming, "Bump-uh-puh-pum..." especially whenever I see a horse near where I live LOL

[calimar28]

If only the South had just one Tiger tank...just one. They would of easily taken that ridge.

[galoon]

@calimar28 Yeah! And if only the Union had a tactical nuke at 1st Bull Run, they'd have easily won the whole war that day. Well, we can wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which piles up first.

[TheRapper10000]

@calimar28 That World war 2.

[StonewallJackson26]

@calimar28 I doubt 1 Tiger would have done it. Hundreds of men could swarm it and knock it out of action, or at least kill its inhabitants.

[calimar28]

@StonewallJackson26 The north would swarm it? How would the North be able to get into the Tiger? Nothing they had including cannon would of penetrated it's 80mm thick sides or 100mm thick frontal. They could beat on it all day and not get in. Meanwhile the Tiger would drive off, turn around, and using both the 88mm gun plus the machine gun, mow down the entire union force!

[StonewallJackson26]

@calimar28 Every tiger tank has a see hole. Throw a vintage grenade through that sucker. Kill the inhabitants with the concussion.

[robh64]

@StonewallJackson26 were those holes actually large enough for a grenade, or did they have vision blocks of glass?

[StonewallJackson26]

@robh64 Yes.

[robh64]

@StonewallJackson26 the driver had a glass vision block, im not aware of any opening that a grenade could go in, that would be bad designing

[StonewallJackson26]

@robh64 No. You could shove a potato masher through a Panzer see hole.

[robh64]

@StonewallJackson26 Maybe some type of panzer but the tiger had no such openings

[StonewallJackson26]

@robh64 How did the inhabitants drive the tank?

[robh64]

@StonewallJackson26 the driver had a opening to see out but it wasnt a open hole, there was a thick glass vision block to see through.

[StonewallJackson26]

@robh64 I still think thousands of men could swarm a tank and eventually knock it out of action. you could always blind the driver. Smear some shit all over the glass. Make it so the tank is blind.

[dougalmac54]

@calimar28 What a ridiculous idea. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had been a B-17? Get real.

[rickcee]

@calimar28 Hell, one crummy Hummer with a .50 on it could have wreaked havoc on one or t'other

[sk8nboomer900]

why did they take that out lol

[hippofat10]

Hi where did you get this scene?

[rob9641]

@hippofat10 VHS Commemorative Edition, put out in 1994

[hippofat10]

@rob9641 Which I don't have. Oh well Thank you for the information.

[rob9641]

@hippofat10 It's hard to get - that's why I posted all the scenes that were deleted from the DVD and the original VHS.

[Ralastar]

Double canister! That's it, Cushing! DOUBLE CANISTER!

[rob9641]

@Ralastar - Cushing is finally been recommended to get his Medal of Honor - only took 147 years. Watch for it.

[sk8nboomer900]

@Ralastar haha!

[steve4123456789]

Why delete it.

[Orbitguy5]

The quote I liked a lot though. This is a good scene the more I look at it, thx for posting.

[Orbitguy5]

Well as someone who has watched this movie many many times, if you note what they replaced this mini scene with, I think the replacement scene fits the flow much better. Still cool scene, it seems well acted too.

[rohirrim90]

Probably told him to use the $100 to ship it, lol. Still weird to find a knife in the pocket of an actor though.

[rob9641]

I could think of weirder things you could find in an actor's pocket....

[rohirrim90]

I knew the first one about the glove, but that second one just cracked me up. How would one go about saying that they found their knife to someone? Must have been an interesting conversation.

[rob9641]

He called Sam up, said "I bought your pants" (I love that one all by itself), told him about the knife and the money. Sam said "I wondered what happened to that knife" and asked him to send it to him. He didn't care about the money. I'm a knife collector - the knife was probably worth more than the $100, and it was probably his favorite.

[rohirrim90]

It is very good and a proper introduction to a sensible general in the II Corps of the Army of Northern Virgina. Plus the part when Longstreet shares the plans for the charge and Trimble salutes him was gold as well(this scene would really tie that in along with a scene with Pettigrew if there was one).

[rob9641]

Something that's interesting - the bloody glove MS is wearing here is now on display at Farnsworth's Tavern in Gburg, along with a lot of other costume pieces from the film. The owner told me he found a pocket knife and a $100 bill in Sam Elliott's pants. Sam wanted the knife back.

[rohirrim90]

I also see why they would take this out, but they really shouldn't have because this shows the actual involvement of the other divisions and not just Pickett's. Plus it gives a little more to Trimble than just him being infuriated by Ewell like the Reynolds scene.

[rob9641]

You have to admit that scene between Trimble and Lee is dynamite for Morgan Sheppard, though. Great scene.

[HarbingerRomanus]

i can see why they deleted the scene, it definitely breaks up the rhythm and emotional charge of the scenes before and after

[joeluv64]

must see

[SilentHunter84]

In Italian edition of the movie this scene has not been deleted.

[rebel2276]

June 29th, saw the Union Army march a long distance, now they were in Northern Maryland between Emmitsburg, MD to Union Mills, MD.

Heth moved more East half way to Cashtown. Johnson's division left Carlisle and march back to Chambersburg. Early remained in York.

June 30th, Rhodes marched down to Gettysburg, Early West to Heidlersburg and Heth at Cashtown. Buford was in Gettysburg. The 1st-11th-3rd Corps were either at Emmitsburg and some North in Southern Pennsylvania.

[rebel2276]

Gordon's brigade was in the lead. Now Johnson and Rode's divisions were in Carlisle, Pennsylvania on June 27th.

Meanwhile the AOP finally got all Corps across the Potomac River on June 27th. The 11th Corps marched to West and blocked the South Mountain passes. The 1st and 11th Corps were at Middletown, Maryland.

June 28th, Early arrived in York, PA. Longstreet and A.P. Hill were at Chambersburg with Heth as far East as Fayetteville, PA.

[rebel2276]

On June 23rd, 1863, Rodes's division was at Greencastle, Pennsylvania. Early and Johnson's divisions were South East between Leitersburg, Maryland and Greencastle, Pennsylvania. On June 24th, Rodes marched North to Chambersburg with Jenkin's Cavalry screening the front.

Early's division left Chambersburg and marched East to Greenwood, Pennsylvania on June 24. Early rested on June 25th and marched to Gettysburg on June 26th. The next day Early with North to Heidlersburg and then East to York.

[combatcorrespondent]

Yesterday, I ate a bald eagle.

[b42baritone]

Gen. Trimble, was wounded at Gettysburg, His wounds were so severe that he was left behind to be treated by the Union doctors. He had his leg amputated, and never saw action again.

[rebel2276]

The 11th Corps lost 1,500 men as prisoners. The 1st Corps lost 2,200 men as prisoners. All told the Confederates had at least 4,000 Union prisoners on day 1.

Colonel Orlando Smith's brigade numbered around 1,600 fresh soldiers.

MG. Anderson's division (3rd Corps) was available around 4:30 PM. Also Thomas and Lane had either no loss or light loss. There was (Seven) brigades that could have attacked west of Cemetery Hill and captured it, routing the AOP.

[championofcathay]

wasn't Pettigrew also wounded in the hand at Gettysburg?

[rob9641]

I believe he was, and he was mortally wounded on the retreat back to Virginia. Maybe at Belle Grove in VA, I'm not sure.

[sgtSoupy]

He died at Bunker Hill,west VA July 17 1863

[rebel2276]

Pettigrew was mortally wounded by Major Weber of the 6th Michigan Cavalry. The small "battle" at Falling Waters.

Companies B and F (6th Mich Cav). Went in with 86 men, only 3 came out. They also lost their "Stars and Stripes Guidon."

[rob9641]

The retreat from Gettysburg was anything but easy. I am reading a book called "One Continuous Fight," by Wittenberg, Petruzzi and Nugent that chronicles what happened. In addition to the rain, they were attacked constantly by Feds, local militia and citizens, left dead and dying all along the way, and had several named battles (Funkstown, Boonsboro, Falling Waters). The only thing that saved the ANV was that the Feds were in almost as bad shape as they were.

[rebel2276]

I have read "One Continuous Fight," although it should have been called "The Union Cavalry pursuit of Lee and the ANV." lol

The better book then that, or to be blunt, the best book ever on "Lee's Retreat" is,

"Retreat From Gettysburg" By Kent Masterson Brown.

Mr. Brown did his research and did it very well. The only book, I have read where he found all the live stock that Lee's men confiscated. 20,000 horses and mules, 45,000-50,000 head of cattle, thousands of hogs, etc.

[rob9641]

I've heard of that one but haven't read it. Poor old Washington County MD - like having Hurricane Katrinas go through two years in a row, pick up everything in sight and dump it back down dead and destroyed.

[rebel2276]

That was all Lee's goal was in Pennsylvania, resupply the entire Army. Certainly Lee knew he would eventually be in a battle, but I doubt he thought it would be that "large."

Definitely take a peek at Mr. Brown's book.

Have a good morning, Rob

[LeftiusMaximus]

Rebel: In Ewells offical report he took the offical blame for not trying.

You must remember Edward Johnsons Divison was fresh on the field and elements of Rhodes and Earlys divisions had not yet been engaged. GT Andersons Division of Hills Corp was also in Reserve on the field at the time.

Andersons Division would make the furthest penetration on July 2nd; but with lack of support was forced to fall back.

[rebel2276]

Johnson's division did not arrive till "at dusk" and hence was not available when the 11th and 1st Corps broke.

The 11th Corps inflicted only 400 casualties on Ewell's Corps (Early's division). Gordon's Ga brigade took the brunt of the losses. Hay's and Hoke's brigades were also engaged and essential broke the last 11th Corps regiments. Smith's brigade was not engaged nor the 26th Ga of Gordon's brigade. (Guarding division artillery in rear).

[rebel2276]

All of Rodes's brigades were engaged. Daniel-Iverson-O'Neal took heavy losses. Ramseur and Doles had light losses. Ramseur's brigade captured more prisoners then they had in their own brigade. Doles also was caught up in rounding up prisoners. That eliminates those two brigades pushing for the front.

Hays and Hoke could have followed up when Coster's Union brigade broke. If they had ran behind them, the Union artillery and infantry could not fire on the Confederates.

[joey513ja]

no Lee prepared a letter to Davis which asked him to take the war to the north. He agreed to it, and Davis also gave him a letter that if Lee made it to Washington, that it demands peace and an end to the war. However, this letter was never given to lincoln because he was suppost to draw the Army of the Potomac out of VA, and somewhere north of washington, so when he beat the potomac army, there would be no troops standing from washington, to where Lee was. this was a failure. the plan failed

[Johnel83]

I have read the book. It was a choice of the History Book Club a few years ago. He does include many details about how many livestock etc. were confiscated etc. and overall he is very accurate. BUT to agree with his thesis that Lee was coming north on just a foraging raid is a bit hard to believe. Lee was in possession of a letter from Jefferson Davis to personally give to Lincoln when and if he captured Washington DC. Lee was a great defensive general but both times he came the North he lost.

[rebel2276]

A letter? What is your source on that?

Thank you, Sir

[rebel2276]

Lee's men and his 36,000 horses and mules were starving. It was so bad that Lee had to send Longstreet and two of his divisions (Hood and Pickett) to Suffolk, VA. There they would pin down the Union forces and elements would march into Eastern NC searching for 600ish cattle.

Lee knew that June was harvest time and he planned his campaign based on that. Not many historians and book writers know much about this.

[rebel2276]

General Pettigrew was wounded in the hand at Seven Pines.

At Gettysburg he was hit in the left arm and was in a sling. He had a hard time riding his horse as well.

[RebelYank]

See...I will never know why that scene was even filmed. It's so...useless.

[hCHASEs87]

Dude its awesome!!

[MickeyJWind]

Thanks for posting all the deleted scenes. This one was probably the best one not to include...way too wordy.

[rob9641]

Yeah, that Trimble could prattle on.

[LeftiusMaximus]

And yet; had Tremble been listened to.....the South could have taken Cemetery Hill...as indeed part of the 9th Louisiana under B.Gen Hayes; Earlys Division did. Just a fact to keep in mind

[rebel2276]

The biggest problems were....

1) Thousands of 11th Corps soldiers were all over the town of Gettysburg. Thus the Confederates were just as disorganized.

2) BG. Smith thought had has seen Union cavalry up the York Pike. Ewell sent Smith's and Gordon's brigades to secure the Army's extreme left flank.

3) Nobody knew how many "of those people" were on Cemetery Hill. Each hour more and more "of those people" were building up.

It was not all Ewell's fault.

[joey513ja]

your right on 1 and 2 but the 3rd thing u said well the dismounted calvalry acted as militia which caused Lee to act standoffish, what calvalry was used for in te civil war was to just hold key positions on the battlefield so that the Infantry can be drawn up. Reynolds died however, but the infantry finally got there and secured cemetary hill.

[rebel2276]

Early's division had already gone though Gettysburg a week before the battle. Early had broken up all the railroads in that area all the way to York, PA.

Militia had been found and routed in and around Gettysburg. Heth believe just militia was in and about Gettysburg. Not till they heard the drums of the infantry did they then realize they were up against the AOP.

[joey513ja]

are u sure u got the right battle? the facts are a bit off, Early's division never roamed around gettysburg town, no railroads were supposively roken during the battle, the only people that was stationed around the pennsylvannia countryside was J.E.B Stuart, which he failed Lee in a big way

[rebel2276]

The 2nd Corps under Major General Ewell were the first to cross over the Potomac River. After the battle of 2nd Winchester, Rhode's division cross over first.

Early's division marched to Gettysburg and broke up all the railroads in that area. Then Early marched East to York, PA.

This was before any Union regiments were in Pennsylvania.

[rob9641]

Farnsworth's Tavern in Gettysburg has Trimble's bloody glove, amongst other memorobilia from the movie. Not to mention great peanut soup.

[Toffer234]

Do you have this scene from the dvd?

[rob9641]

No, it's from the Collector's Edition VHS. It wasn't on the DVD.

[rob9641]

Change on the NCIS episode - it's Jan 13.

[hancock63]

Thank you very much for posting all these deleted scenes.

[rob9641]

Sorry, typo, Jan 20, not Jan 10

[rob9641]

Morgan Sheppard will be in the Jan 10 2009 episode of NCIS with his son, Mark Sheppard, playing the same character at a younger age.