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  • I don't get the end. "but not the use of rockets?" So, i think the white guy is trying to say, "oh, u don't approve of suicide bombings but you approve of rocket attacks...ur still ugly animal monsters." Am I right? I thought they believe you get martyr status if u kill in a suicide bombing and 40 virgins or whatever. P.S. IT WAS FAKE EVERYONE I KNOW WILL KNOW THIS NOW!!!

  • Modern "Israel": the BIGGEST lie perpetrated on humanity in our day and age. Get JEW WORLD ORDER (Kindle, Pubit, Lulu) and help expose the REAL culprits behind ethnic and political uprisings the past 500 yrs., the Illuminati, world bankin/fianncial takeovers, terrorism, Communism, Socialism, Talmudism, ZIONISM, etc., ETC. and the NEW WORLD ORDER ITSELF!

  • now we know it's fake, there is no country of palestine for him to be embasador of!!!

  • this palastinian and also some of the comments are living in fantasy land.

    Palastinians did celebrate 9-11, as thay did support sadam husain.

    the stupid one that claims that israel kicked out the cristian arabs out of israel, so ignorant. check what happened to the christian population of Betlehem after Israel got out, and find that the christian population was reduced by 40% due to muslim prosicution, same as thay do to the Copts in egipt.

  • @omerlivni

    Q: Why was a reporter on camera in the same video offering a piece of pie to the woman in the front while she was "celebrating"?

    Answer: because you're a fucking liar.

  • @omerlivni - Now go and Google what the Jews (Aaron Lopez) did the REAL JUDAEANS who actually fled towards West Africa when Rome invaded Jerusalem. The last documented King of Juda was King Haffon. The Hebrews and Judaens had their identities stolen by imposters from Europe. The names of the tribes progressively changed by Europe. Judah, Juda, Ajuda, Hueda, Whydah and Ouidah. Those people were shipped to Europe, America and Carribean Islands in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

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  • i dont know if the footage is real.i do know in the ghettos of NY people DID celebrate it. as an amerikan growing up programmed as i was, when i saw the celebrations, it opened up my mind to question why would anyone celebrate a travesty. I started to research and started to find truth about the persecution of the Arabic peoples. obviously it didnt take long. I do rebuke violence which mean foremost I rebuke U.S. foriegn policy if this was propaganda it backfired in my case education=liberation

  • I wish americunts get nuked hard

  • Yeah, says a fucking ambassador of Palestine. Enjoy your alternative dimension, people.

  • Israel and was behind 9/11 and everybody knows it

  • the zionist jew cunts were celebrating

  • More proof that israel was behind 9-11

  • And so he [the Jew] advances on his fatal road until another force comes forth to oppose him, and in a mighty struggle hurls the heaven-stormer back to Lucifer. Germany is today the next great war aim of Bolshevism. It requires all the force of a young missionary idea to raise our people up again, to free them from the snares of this international serpent...

    -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

  • Man - the fucking pathetically lazy scapegoating of whatever your prefered religious group as the primary source of what you view as the problems in the world is just ridiculous and logically and intellectually pathetic and lazy. I'm seeing "zionist" "jews" "muslim dogs" "christian infidels". You're human fucking beings, you have control and influence and responsibility and a duty to one another. This whole conspiracy garbage isjust an excuseto not face up to your own responsibility and reality

  • is it a fake like the video that shows Haniyeh condemn and mourns the death of bin laden yesterday??

    or maybe after a year you will say that Haniyeh didnt say it, it was an israelis scum

    you idiot

  • I'd rather fight against the Jew centric US than for it. No, I'm not muslim.

    Where do I sign up to be an enemy combatant?

    Fuck this country.

  • @FLICKPatriotism: blaming the jews? It's not even racist, and I even find the term antisemetic a little needy and victim toned.

    How many jews, practicing, who have DNA that differs from their surrounding population in a meaningful way, how many are there both in total, and in percentage terms? The only thing jewish centric is your utter intellectual vacuity. To believe a group that disparate and comparatively miniscule are a real controlling influence in any way is logically absurd. Grow up.

  • @GraeHall

    If you look at history you'll see I'm not alone. All throughout history everyone hated the Jews. Why? Did they just want up one morning toss a dart at a racial dartboard?

    There's something about the Jews that makes them hated. Look at Israeli policy. Look at AIPAC's influence on the US government. If you want to be a slave to the Jews, that's fine. Count me out.

  • @FLICKPatriotism: If we look at history, it wasn't until 80 years ago women could vote, 60 they started working for equal pay, 40 since homosexuality was no longer classified a mental illness, and the further we go back, the more hate from more people for all others not like them. You're not alone in history, because you're view here is as intellectually vacant and suspicious and afraid as people in those times.

    I mean, did you really just equate jews and israelies that laughably obliviously?

  • @FLICKPatriotism There's something about each of the major monotheistic and other equally guilty self declared "one true" religions and their followers, seeing themselves as "chosen" and utterly without irony or perspective believing that their religion of their region just happens to be the right one, and supernatural mystical forces just happen to be focused on them and the entire universe has a special place for them, conveniently, right where they were born. All do it. And it's causes hate

  • @GraeHall

    Jews take it to a whole new level; when they get others to do their dirty work for them. That's why they are hated. They don't have the courage to do things on their own, so they get Evangelicals to do it for them.

  • @FLICKPatriotism Jews do perform very dirty work, that is taken to a whole new level. They provide an multipurpose scapegoat and target to attribute blame for and for you and people like like you whenever and for whatever you like. The jews aren't hated just because you want them to be, you and people like you hate the jews because you need to. They're you're cop out excuse for anything negative for which you need to actually take responsibility to solve. They help you be lazy, and irresponsible

  • @GraeHall

    You can pretend that's the case, but all you have to do is open your eyes and look at this country's foreign policy.

    I'm not exactly sure what your game is, but for some reason you have accepted the Jew as your master. I don't know why, nor do I care.

  • @FLICKPatriotism : which country's foreign policy is that? How can you assume I have a game, while in the same hand be uncertain of what said game is, and on the third hand - it's a metaphoric hand, you don't have three of them for realsies, or you could count to 25 on your digits and have a 22.5% advantage with numeracy over other 20 digit holding humans! I digress. Anyway, third hand, you assert I have "accepted the jew as my master". how, what does that mean? What are you explicitely saying?

  • @FLICKPatriotism Also, when I asserted that your grade school logical fallacy with "jews'" of "other group homogeny" helped you to be lazy, I couldn't have expected a more crystal clear example of that lazyness than when you say this in your reply "you have accepted the Jew as your master. I don't know why, nor do I care.".

    Now, that's easy for you to say, but I expect you to explain to me what that means, in real, relatable, quantifiable, rational and measurable terms. Show me how justify it.

  • @GraeHall

    Its funny, how I say exactly what you just said when blacks complain about their situation. But that's OK.

    Just look at history. From Shylock to Larry Silverstein Jews are hated. People don't just wake up and decide to hate.

    I'm so lazy I have two masters degrees and starting a doctorate.

  • Most people are for peace so why can't Palestine and Israel just attempt to grow up and talk about it? it's really not that hard.

  • @samergdesigner Palestinian Christians and Muslims set an ideal example of how to coexist as brothers and sisters despite religious differences. Even Arab Jews lived with the rest without problem, according to a former Zionist underground fighter Naeim Giladi in his "Jews of Iraq".

    Keep it up. In the long night of darkness light of the common humanity must shine on your faces. Keep being a part of light, not darkness.

  • @samergdesigner alright fuck you two, and fuck your muslims brothers, ill piss on your graves, and rape your veiled bitches on there :-)

  • @samergdesigner YES!, 99% of palestinians are muslims, dont try to show over picture and lie

  • @deftones01234

    Majority Palestinians living outside of Palestine are Christians. They were force out of their home by the Zionist terrorist groups in 1948. Almost 40% of the Palestinians are Christians.

  • @samergdesigner haha I'm sorry, did you say you were Christian? well then act like it!

  • @samergdesigner Fuck your "pro-Zionist" ancient religion bullshit. Welcome to the real world. Fuck the middle-east's grudges against various religions for events that took place 800 years ago. Fuck all of this BULLSHIT. Wake up.

  • of course its fake,all things isreal does to further their genocidal cause and blame the palestinians for every ill that befalls these jew scum are fake.Isreal couldnt tell the truth if their life depended on it.Jews are not capable of compassion or empathy.

  • this is bullshit

  • lol it always somehow comes back to the jews. its getting old. be a man and take responsibility for your actions and tell your people to act right. you are not a man, a fool lying to the world and not even embarrassed.

  • @mikhailmike Word, and also I do believe what he says about the candles and the prayers etc. but it's a Catholic university, what else would they do?

  • Really u lying fag really? Then why was there someone saying this is a bitter sweet from osama. Yeah hope u guys get nuked.

  • The killings of muslims in bosnia DID NOT HAPPEN!

  • palistani vermin organised the Lockerbie atrocity.

    allahs palistani vermin are taught terror from birth......they just hate to be exposed.

    God bless the IZZA-RAELIZ!!

    may the glorious IDF eradicate the rat infested palistani shitpit!

  • Hey Islam4Scum, I've seen you 'round these parts for a little bit now. I've been trying to argue against some of these claims too. Apparently, Zionists killed the dinosaurs, sank the Titanic, and invented AIDS to kill African muslims.

    I jest; but seriously I don't even think these guys are serious, I think they know that everything they're saying is dumb and wrong, but they have faith in their religion and just want sharia law.

    So I'm done on these videos. Good luck with the debates, man!

  • I care more about Israel Mossad Agents arrested CELEBRATING IN NEW YORK. Not one Muslim was arrest or found on 9/11 but many Israelis were arrested&then let go 6months later by Zionist Micheal Chertoff. Zionists main motto; "Lie, lie, lie and lie so much that people will believe it to be the true"

    Israeli Mossad motto, "By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt do War"

    911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌The Zionist Jewish Elites are Lying to Divide and rule us. They are the terrorists. Expose them.

    watch?v­=VcCiyKFPC08

  • If he was telling the truth then where is the rest of the supposed footage he spoke of with olive branches being extended in peace???????????

  • @islam4scum they have the footage but america is too afraid to show it because then the rest of the world will know the rejoicing footage is fake and they'll get shit for it.

  • @FTJproductions That doesnt even make any sense. Someone could just anonymously post it, and the whole world would know!!!

    If the video exists, then PROVE IT.

  • @islam4scum ok im not trying to argue with an asshole like you because i know its not gonna go anywhere. Your skull is too thick, just look at your username...

  • @FTJproductions You have 2 options;

    1. Post the video and prove your words with EVIDENCE

    2. Admit you lied and that islam is a dishonest and violent religion for assholes.

    Prove it or you will have automatically admited you lied.

  • @islam4scum You actually expect me to get hold of that video. You're crazy for insisting this, how am i supposed to do that, it just shows that you have high expectations for beleivability but yet you are brainwashed by the american government.

  • @FTJproductions This is the age of the internet, fool! Yes, if the video existed you WOULD be able to get a hold of it. You are talking about a NEWSCAST VIDEO, not some secret CIA video. It would be easy to get, if it only existed!

    Didnt you know that news companies keep all of their recordings? A news company could make big news by posting that video, it would be a huge scandal. But it doesnt happen, the video you speak of never existed, because you made it all up.

  • @islam4scum Here's all I have to say then, since your seriously convinced that the video doesn't exist then here.

    Go to Palestine and see how it america is portrayed there. Thats really all i can say, the truth hurts but you'd have to be ignorant to not try and find out what it is.

  • @FTJproductions LOLOLOLOLOLZZZ!!!!

    I PROVED that this video was of palestinians celebrating the death of Americans and you tell me to GO THERE??? No, I dont think I want to visit a country where they are so violent and primitive to celebrate death like that. Only a muslim would even want to visit a place like that.

  • @islam4scum The jews went there and loved it. So they called israel and kicked out the real palestinians

  • @FTJproductions LOL, thats a lie.

  • @islam4scum Everything is a lie to you now, isn't it. You probably believe aliens built the pyramids. There is nothing thats a lie about the statement i said. Its a broad statement but clearly understandable.

  • @FTJproductions Yet you cant prove anything you say. This is a video of muslims celebrating on 9/11, and you know it. You cant even come up with proof, when we are in the information age! If what you spoke of were true, no doubt there would be proof. The fact that there is no proof for your false claims says it all.

    ;)

  • @islam4scum >You cant even come up with proof...

    Sure you've enough proof to implicate them. Now, could you please point to any of the words they are saying, or any sign they are carrying that positions them in the context of the 9/11? Since, as you aptly (I didn't say 'apely', did I?) incriminate them with your "when we are in the information age!" jingle?

    So. What do they say that supports or celebrates the massacre?

  • @rollingklouds They are chanting allo ackbar and praising god for the death of Americans. How stupid are you?

  • @islam4scum I hear a bunch a children shouting Allahu Akbar, which means God is the Greatest, but I do not hear ANY chants cursing America. What does "Allahu Akbar", a very common saying by Muslims, have to do with celebrating the 9/11 attack?

    What does that sentence have to do anything with cursing the US?

  • @rollingklouds OK, so you FAILED completely with your LIE that the muslims in this video are cheering for CANDY! What adult cheers for candy anyway???

    So now you are trying any pathetic attempt to hide the fact that you lied. How sad.

  • @islam4scum Stop your bombastic words.

    Stick to what you claimed. PROVE what you claim to be true!

    Where do these children, and about 4 adults shout curses at America?

    Now, THAT is pathetic.

    WHERE??

    (tips: do some personal attacking, or bring up another issue)

  • @rollingklouds Where is the video you claimed to have? You were the first to make this claim so it is your DUTY to prove your claim.

    I never had to claim that this video was of muslims celebrating 9/11, its had already been well established.

    So where is the video you claimed was true?

    Where is the video you claimed proves these ADULTS were in the street, screaming for CANDY???

    (only children scream for candy)

  • @islam4scum Read again my posts. I did not claim to have any video; I am only holding you to the task of proving what you say is true.

    -----

    >muslims celebrating 9/11, its had already been well established.

    Nobody "well established" it. No one can show, and can you neither, that Muslims are, in this video, celebrating the murders of 9/11.

    ----

    >you claimed ...these ADULTS.. screaming for CANDY?

    I made NO such claim. Please, do not improvise.

    Again, exactly WHERE are they 'cursing' America?

  • @islam4scum Ok then since you are clearly so convinced that Palestinians were rejoicing the death of americans prove to me that that video is real aswell. And noo bullshit responces either like, "cause fox news said so" or "cause their all terrorists"

  • @FTJproductions This is a VERY reliable website - .snopes.com/rumors/cnn.asp FUCK the Palestinians. They will eternal fire soon enough.

  • @FTJproductions No, you need to prove that it isnt real. You are just in a last ditch pathetic attempt to turn the argument in any way you can, and it wont work. You have claimed on and on that this is not really muslims celebrating 9/11, so bring forth your evidence, or admit you made it all up.

  • @FTJproductions The fact that after several days you STILL can not produce any evidence proves that you lied, and that I was right all along.

  • @Streetcat24-exaclty

  • the footage has nothing to do with israel

  • @rrwk17 If you think Atlas Shrugged is a "joke book" then I won't continue wasting my breath. Once you get older and actually see the way the world works maybe you will open up your eyes a bit to grasp its paradigms.

    It's even funnier that the book you rebut with is pandered by almost every major review site I visit and the author called a "loony". Kind of sums up your argument style, though.

    Wish you the best, xoxo

    P.S. Did you know "waste technicians" used to be called "garbage collectors"?

  • @SodiumCyanide LOL, you are a joke my friend. John Perkins is renound in field of international study. 2nd, Still waiting for answers to many of my questions, a few being is the political scientific definition of party and ideology, none which you have been able to provide.....could that be because YOU DON"T KNOW SHIT ABOUT US FOREIGN POLICY, POLITICS, ISLAM, THE MIDDLE EAST.....OR ANYTHING OF CONSEQUENCE.....

    Would love to also know were you received your education....if you actually graduated

  • @SodiumCyanide Do the world a favor and stop waisting your breath altogether. All your sources of information are very easily rebutted by both argument and credibility of their authors. This is turn shows your incapacity to process logic and argument. My argument is that the nation of islam is not homogeneous, is apart of the modern world and is not inherently violent, and that blaming 1.57 billion people for the act of less than a few thousand is outrageously illogic.

  • @SodiumCyanide Truth is you really don't know anything on this argument. You have never met or personally known any muslim person, you have never been to any islamic or middle eastern nation, you are obviously not educated in this field (if at all), and further more prove that ALL of your information derives from radical neo-liberal conservative recourses. I have the joy of knowing several islamic americans, something you will never be able to say.

    Bonus points if you can define neo-liberalism

  • @rrwk17 LMAO..You ripped him a new one. The negative view of muslims has been imposed on us through pop culture and other aspects of our lives. We dont even realize the opinion we have is really formed around misinformation we presume are facts.From watching the angry arab with a sword chase Aladin to watching Arnold stop a terroist from launching a missle. I feel for those palestinians that have lost their homes and live in Israeli depression. As well as all muslims that deal with our shit.

  • @khimosaubi appreciated friend :). i just can't stand this ethnocentric retardation projected by sodium an other douchebags. I admit there are crazy religious nut jobs out there, but that has no limit on any particular religion. I believe in fighting this sort of small minded behavior aggressively because this way of thinking is by far the most dangerous in the world.

    btw, i think you would enjoy a few books that discuss media messaging, No Logo, Amuzing ourselves to death, and Media in society

  • @rrwk17 The pathetic method of thinking that the masses have been lowered to has been done on purpose. Unfortunatly, we cant go back 100 years and kill the problem at the root. We have lost our sence of selfsustainability. We dont do anything for ourselves.. We go to the corporations. 100 years back you would be taught how to grow food and build a home and how to protect and fortify it. Now your taught BS in school and skills that benefit corporations and not yourself.. Its sad really..

  • @SodiumCyanide Imma give you a fair shake to your sad, loosing argument. A few terms might help you better understand your "argument." These terms are basic and core to the fields of international relations, study, social sciences, and religious study;

    Globalization; Political Economy; Modernization; Structuralism; Development; Walt Rostow vs Karl Marx; Dominance, Reciprocity, and Identity in IR; Political Realism; Marshall Plan; neo-dependency; Washington Consensus; Beijing Consensus;just a few

  • @SodiumCyanide Last thing, here is the list of authors I study on a daily basis;

    Damien Kingsbury, John McKay, Janet Hunt, Mark Mcgillivray, Matthew Clarke, Joshua S Goldstein, John C Pevenhouse, Arthur MacEwan, Robert Pollin, John Miller, Mark Engler, Jame Petras, Madeleine Baran, David Bacon, Ellen Frank, publications from The Institute for Policy Studies, Katherine Sciacchitano, Martha Ojeda, Immanuel Ness, Marie Trigona, Gawain Kripke, Mark Weisbrot, Dean Baker, Andre Gunder Frank, Bob Feld

  • @SodiumCyanide -man, Anna Sussman, Terence Ball, Noam Chompsky, Richard Dagger, Arturo A Fox, the Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, BBC, El País, ABC-Español, JUST TO NAME A FEW. I don't think you have read as many books in your lifetime compared to the amount of literature I've read on this subject. This does not include new sources in Russian, Tagalog, and Arabic, all which I speak.

    Please oh please rebut each any everyone of these authors. Just would love to hear what you have to say

  • @rrwk17 lol fine, here's another one for you. This might be hard for you to digest since it's first hand video, which I know you don't like: liveleak (dot) com/view?i=43f_1294067728

    There's your average Joe muslims, stepping on dead Christian's body parts and shouting "Allah Ackbar". I admit it does make me "emotional" as you say it to see human life so degraded. Reminds me of stringing up dead US soldiers' bodies in Fallujah on that bridge. The only people that do these things are savages.

  • @SodiumCyanide Seems a dogmatic atheist and anarchist shot a democratic congresswomen and killed 5 others, including a 6 year old child today. Funny, he didn't shout "ALLAAAH" when he pulled the trigger, didn't acredit any religious organization, but still managed to commit such a hateful violent act. He is said to however say it was in part to his belief on big government. Should we then all blame the T-party members for this action? .........

  • @rrwk17 "To say that the arguer and the argument are separate is sophmoric"

    Sorry, I'm used to actual *scientific* debate, where the topic is actually the content of the theory and method. You know, mathematical proofs, scientific method, etc. The credentials of the person arguing for/against the matter has zero bearing on the mathematical strength of the argument.

    It must really suck to live in the grey goo land of feelings and opinions on a subject matter that is equally unquantifiable.

  • @SodiumCyanide LOL, none of your arguments are sound or quantitative. Your sources of information are from what most consider the leastmost in their fields who use controversy, not sound argument, to SELL their books. Besides, your entire argument is based solely on your EMOTIONAL connection to Islam with no solid foundation for any of your claims. This phenomena is called Biasis (and prejudice)

    Lastly, the field of social science is comprised of Qualitative research, more so than quantitative

  • Replay the last 10-15 secs of this clip. The firing of misiles is accesptable? I dont think so! Very telling how the interviewer doesnt challenge this viewpoint.

  • watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

  • @rrwk17 I don't hate all muslims, I just hate their religion (read my comments). I'm not a fan of organized religion in any form.

    I'm sure most muslims are good people (esp. in western countries). However, there are thousands of Al-Qaeda fighters in Pakistan/Afghanistan that wouldn't be able to continue hiding out without the continued support of the local muslim villagers.

    I just wish we could flush them out, kill 'em, then pull out. Oh yeah and cut our fossil fuel dependencies after that.

  • @SodiumCyanide thats funny because you just called it a sick religion and to "fuck islam." so now ur saying you don't hate all muslims? Inconsistent arguers make for inconsistent arguments.

    Look, the true nature and root of violence and terror is poverty. The struggle of those who have and those who don't. Religious fanatics always exist, but when we take a peoples ability to provide for themselves, they have no choice but to turn to fanatics that can provide. Its greed, not religion that is

  • @rrwk17 Oh boy... please tell me you aren't a socialist on top of everything else. I hope you realize 'greed' is the basic tenet of human nature that got us to progress as a species to where we are today. If you disagree with that, then you should give up all of your material possessions or else you are just a plain hypocrite.

    If you really are anti-greed, then here's a book for you to check out that might change your mind: Atlas Shrugged.

  • @SodiumCyanide Desire is the basic human tenet, not greed. Greed is why we in the US make up less than 5% of the worlds population but consume 25% of the worlds recourses. And stop sharing your joke books. Your books are some of the most criticized because of their shit arguments and sensationalized authors who are out to dupe fools like to into buying their books. How about you read John Perkins Economic Hitman, he worked for the IMF and WorldBank and can tell you best how globalization works

  • @SodiumCyanide again, you using those words who don't understand. provide to me the definition of a socialist. and define the difference between the different socialisms. on that same note, what is the political scientific definition of a liberal and conservative.

  • @SodiumCyanide the problem. In pakistan and Afghanistan, if we didn't force them to accept millions from the IMF and World bank, then force them to restructure their government because they cannot repay their international loans, they would be able to allocate national resources to education and food. But with no public school system, most boys are forced to be educated in madrassas which in hand with their education, teach fanatisism and terrorism, both with are counter to Islam

  • @rrwk17 Looks like one of your muslim buddies just blew himself up in Sweden and killed someone (and injured two more). Know why? Because of some pictures that were drawn depicting Muhammed. What a sick, twisted religion.

    We'll see how the muslim community responds to this. Probably with deafening silence as usual. Fuck Islam

  • @SodiumCyanide Anderson Cooper(whom iv had the pleasure of meeting) on 360/keeping them honest just did a wonderful program about islamophobia/renee elmers today having many predominate muslims speaking very loudly how they do not condone Terrorism, Osama Bin Ladin, and how they are proud americans.

    As far as Sweden, The bombers own wife knew nothing of his intentions (she is also muslim btw) and that he was actually kicked out of his mosque for his extreemism. hmmm, way to tell the whole story

  • "Qadeer Baksh, chairman of the Luton Islamic Centre, said he tried to reason with al-Abdaly but to no avail.

    'It was the general public, worshippers, that brought it to the committee's attention that there was someone in here teaching something that is alien to Islam - extremist views,' he said." BBC

  • @rrwk17 Lastly, there are well-founded opinions out there that the Crusades were justified retaliation for Islam invading Christian lands and conquering by the sword. You can read Robert Spencer's book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades) for more info. Give up on the straw man. I'm not a devout Christian; hate Fox News & Glenn Beck. Is it so hard to understand that a moderate can hate Islam? I do appreciate your passion though... obviously you have some doubts re: Islam

  • @SodiumCyanide LOL, wow, so now your an anthropologist? I guess all those pesky indigenous people got what they deserved as well from the christians huh?. sorry, but, if you even tried to look into the matter, christian history is far more cruel and evil than any part of "modern" arabia. as far as your sentiments, your not moderate. Anyone who actively and ignorantly hates over a billion people doesn't have moderate sentiments, just stupid ones.

  • @SodiumCyanide Last thing, quoting or referring to Robert Spencer is a joke. He is not academically published, just a book whore. None of his books are used or even considered viable sources in religious studies (which he received his BA in) and seems to one note his 15 minutes of fame, which is a sad repititious monolicilalization of islam with no honest or deep insight into his own catholic background. The only supporters he has are, you guessed it, right wingers and ultra conservatives. lol

  • @rrwk17 Lol your whole post is an ad hominen attack. It doesn't matter if he's a homeless guy who can barely speak English; his arguments can stand on their own. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".

    It's a lot like what goes on in Islam today... there is a lot of PC talk / hot air, but at the end of the day there will still be crazy muslims blowing themselves up until Islam is either victorious in spreading, or the Arab world crawls out of the middle ages and becomes civilized.

  • @SodiumCyanide My point is that his arguments are so flawed that they are considered unviable in his own academic field.

    2nd point, most of the arab world is civilized, but you, obviously not ever been to any arab nation, wouldn't really know that. A classmate of mine just returned from her interm from Aman, Jordan were she was able to wear her bikini on the beaches with absolutely no problems. Another had returned from Beirute, Lebannon describing that in spite of hamas, its a progressive city

  • @SodiumCyanide I also find it interesting that you think that the middle east is so backwards when Mexico is a far more dangerous place. Many similar acts of violence have occurred throughout Mexico and latin america, yet the same criticism is not applied there. Its because its easy to tie violence to a religion and not to poverty. Because if it ties to poverty, well maybe you would realize that you and me as americans have a far greater roll and responsibility for violence that any religion

  • @SodiumCyanide last thing, my argument is hominen? to say a person who irrationally hates an entire group of people is Argumentum ad hominen? please use some reflection before using words you are clearly too unfamiliar with. Of course its meant to undermine you, your a weak souled individual, but no where is the argument flawed. There is a reason that your argument is not taught in the school of international studies or human science anywhere, its because it is ultimately flawed to the core.

  • @SodiumCyanide To say that the arguer and the argument are separate is sophmoric. Your argument is soo outrageous, I take no guilt bringing you and your argument down. You are clearly not someone who knows what islam or violence or terror is enough to argue about it, just someone with an ax to grind against the religion.

  • @rrwk17 Do you argue against this then? dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1­340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-M­uslim-students-killing-Islam-4­0-want-Sharia-law.html

  • @SodiumCyanide I do, go to Gaurdian.co.uk under science, the lay scientist under the dec 22 post. one MAJOR flaw in the article you provide is the lack of the authors' name, nor the "wiki" leak sources' name that supplied this information. This red flag indicated that whoever wrote it does not want (or can't) defend their article. again, you and ur fucking wiki tied stories. yes the story is flawed and there are several holes in it along with your fucked up philosophy

  • @rrwk17 Mexico is different because the drug lords and their minions are killing eachother, not civilians. In addition, the civilians do not support them, whereas in the ME the devout muslims are taught (and many believe) that jihad is one of the purest forms of practicing Islam as it is seen as a defense of the religion (which is coupled to ME life). If you don't agree with that then you are not seeing the true Islam / ME. Why don't you just go there and find out? I can tell you've never been.

  • @SodiumCyanide You stupid mother fucker, of course they kill civilians in mexico, THEY KILL AMERICAN CIVILIANS!!!!! please take a drive south and I-25 into juarez and do tell of your experience. And yes the citizens support they cartels, the citizens ARE the cartels, they're the jobs in these boarder towns.

    2nd, you have obviously have never been inside of a mosque or have spoken with anyone from the middle east. Keep reading your Rob Spencer books, im sure he'll tell you what to think

  • Secondly, I'm criticizing Arabic culture which is steeped in Islam. Islam requires (brutal) Shar'iah law. Islam also requires Jihad in times of war. Modern Arabic culture praises those who are devout muslims. Modern Arabic culture is also extremely misogynistic. Do you deny any of this?

    Most of this can be blamed on Islam. Ancient Arabs discovered brilliant mathematics and respected women. Modern Arabia is in the dark ages and only seems to glimmer due to the necessity of fossil fuels.

  • @SodiumCyanide Please do tell me specifically which countries are misogynistic? Jordan? Israel? Lebanon? Mauritania? Morocco? I won't deny that there are arab nations that express misogynistic qualities, but that is a localized co-culture and not the culture of Islam. Further more, are you calling islamic americans (4+ million) brutal and misogynistic? HOW MANY MUSLIM PEOPLE DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW???? I can tell you a former work associate of mine was muslim and female and the biggest patriot ever

  • Last thing, more muslims have died to christian hands than the total amount killed by muslims to date. If you are so against religious government and cruel acts to humanity, you should reconsider the "christian" value systems, which allowed for centuries of rape and murder and some of the cruelest acts known to humanity.

    BTW-i am a christian should you decide to jump to another conclusion, i just have no illusions of christianity's past.

  • OH,THAT WHY THEY ALWAYS CELEBRETING WHEN ISRAELIS CILLVANCE DIE,

    BECAUSE ITS ISRAELI PROGRANDE THAT SHOW THEM DANCE!!!!!!!!!!1

    Get a life 108 Likers.

  • People who celebrated the fall of twin tower were idiots in my terms...else they would have been sad after knowing the conspiracy against this demolition..to capture Afghan and IraQ...had they be knowing it, they wud have been crying...

    watch this (after removing spaces from the link enclosed)

    h t tp :/ / peswiki . com /index .php /Main _Page

  • One more thing, Kafir isn't the appropriate word for you friend, ILahmak (الأحمق) suites you better.

  • My religion? your a bigger fool than i thought. I am not muslim nor do i practice islam. Im a grad student in international studies with concentrations in middle east and islamic studies, i further find that those who speak out hatefully like you

    sodiomcyanide tend to be the most ignorant. Your the type of person who could not survive in academia because that requires you defending your claim accurately and with sufficient evidence. Keep your ignorance to yourself douchebag.

  • @rrwk17 You must study at a shithole 3rd-rate university, if you don't understand the difference between Wikipedia articles and citations on a Wiki page. You also don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

    Good luck on your major - hope you go work in a middle eastern country where they will either make you convert to Islam or pay a dhimmi tax (jizya) to do business there.

    I find it funny you waste your freedom learning about a culture that opposes it to the absolute core.

  • @SodiumCyanide Thanks for pointing out a typo grammar queen. Second, the fact that you would consider anything from wiki, wiki articles, or any aggregate of wiki as absolute and factual speaks volumes of your idiocracy. Why don't you go into a library (that big scary place with books) and find your own sources of information. Third, brain-dead red necks like you couldn't even pray for the chance to study at my university nor could your low rent ass begin to afford the 35 k a year in tuition.

  • @rrwk17 Now you show your true colors! The fact is I don't fall neatly into your black/white category of Republican or Tea Party. Sorry. However, sounds like you are just as intolerant to others' views.

    You must be a class A retard to still not get what a wiki is. Do you know that they cite research journals as well? Does that invalidate the cited articles?

  • @SodiumCyanide Do you even know what the difference between different kind of articles? just because anything was printed anywhere does not give it viability. Shockingly, very little of wiki's "cited" articles are PEER REVIEWED. If you knew what that even meant you would know to get published in an academic journal or article that the process requires rigerous research and constant defense of your argument not to mention a mountain of evidence to support it. 90% of wiki's sources are not peer

  • @SodiumCyanide -reviewed, if you had even taken a basic writing class at a community college you would have learned that right away.

    As far as intolerant, yes I'm intolerant to intolerance, especially ignorant and uneducated paradigmas. My real problem is that you take what wiki or talk radio or fox news says as honest truth and yet take no responsibility to learn what is true for yourself from experts and academics who live and bleed these arguments. Thats what makes an ignorant person

  • @SodiumCyanide bottom line, you're a fool and outright show your incredibly low level of intellectualism and intolerance of other cultures. Chances are you have never met or even seen a muslim person but do your best to past judgment as retardily as possible.

    Do the world a favor, stop sucking Glenn Beck's cock and fucking off yourself. Tea-party douchebags like you are whats really wrong with this country.

  • @rrwk17 I don't tolerate a culture that wants nothing but to impose Shar'iah law on our society through violent Jihad and Al-Taqiyya. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you. Someday you will realize that Islam is a dangerous influence; you cannot separate its political/judicial system from the religion. Or maybe you condone stonings, beheadings, acid attacks, etc?

    Hope you have a backup plan because when we quit using fossil fuels the middle east will be back in the Stone Age where it belongs.

  • @SodiumCyanide oh sodium, small small mind. One......your catigorizing a religion that comprises nearly 1.57 billion people (pew forums) into a single system of belief and behavior. Thats like saying that every american believes acts and operates in the same value system. Considering this conversation and other debates in this country, its safe to say that no two americans think alike. But you have the audacity to generalize a belief system of a population nearly 5 times that of the US.

  • @rrwk17 The CNN link is a "first-hand" source... generally considered a good one (lol). I think the person who creates a video knows what they are recording and when it happened. Peer review is for published research and theories... not for things like the article I linked. Are you enrolled @ the University of Phoenix or something? This really isn't a complicated thing.

  • @SodiumCyanide Please provide the name of the journalist, when they filmed, and where. 2nd, let me give you clues to where i study asshole, recently it was ranked in the top 10 of international studies schools in the world, many high ranking state department members are alumni, including condalisa rice. 3rd, this last year the average gpa of accepted students was a 3.80.

    Humor me and tell me where you received ur education and in what. I would love to know were ur ignorance was spawned.

  • Fact is...

    Psychopath PISSrael did 9/11 & 7/7

    Satanic US-PsychoZionistCryptoJews in Wash. D.C. nuked Hiroshima & Nagasaki

    The 'WarOnTerror' is a war for Israel's SATANIC EMPIRE

    Israel is the chief supporter of evil 666, the scum of the earth, the creator of terror & the base of ALL evil

    Sheikh Osama is the prophesied 'awaited enlightened one'

    Imam Mehdi's AL-QAEDA will annihilate Israel sooner or later

    WE ARE WITH IRAN! DOWN WITH IsraHELL666!

  • @LionZARQAWI

    Civilization will hold the line, you and your evil cult will be destroyed.

  • SodiumCyanide:

    Your first mistake was stating to check wikipedia article.... Wikipedia is not a certified academic recourse and is not viable in any form. Tim Brokaw admitted himself that the footage was not verified before aired and the celebration by palestinians was related to another event. I would recommend reading Deepa Kumar's "Framing Islam" to better break down the argument. I implore anyone with question to Islam or Islamic culture to use reason before reverting to islamophobia

  • @rrwk17 I didn't CITE wikipedia, I cited the LINK WITHIN wikipedia, you fucking moron. Get off your thesaurus and READ WHAT I ACTUALLY WROTE.

    As for the rest of your comment, sorry but you're not going to make me into a dhimmi. I'm proud to be a Kafir. I despise your religion and all the intolerance it stands for, above and well beyond 9/11 (sorry, I'll never forgive your people for that, no matter how you try to justify it).

  • youtube video "dancing israeli's" aswell as "uss liberty" and "king david hotel bombing" to get a good idea of what the "jewish" state is all about.

  • In the mean time George Bush where are the weapons of mass destruction??? The worst President ever!!!!!! PS------ A former US MARINE! ---I hated serving under a jack ass bafoon like you!

  • Be this true or not, posers think the world ignores that USA governments right up to Nicaragua recently have consistently backed the bloodiest dictatorships in Latin America, likewise in Africa and Asia. The USA arms and funds the Israeli IDF including Caterpillar sending armored bulldozers to demolish Palestinian houses, and then poses as "neutral" arbiter in "peace talks" that only promise a Banthustan future for Palestinians- check Israeli Jeff Halper's "Matrix of Control".

    FREE PALESTINE

  • Just a thought, Why would the Palestines not celebrate the death of Americans?

    Just look at the big picture, America has not only turned a blind eye to the killings of the Palestines by Israel, they are ones who also armed the Israel.

    The creation of Israel in 1948 is proof that Satan exist.

  • @PURELOVECREW I agree. @SodiumCyanide & @truthoutmedia are both morons. If Palestinians celebrating, it make sense, but why did the Israeli? Why were they so happy when their closest friend being attacked? Answer: U.S is going to war against Israel neighbors and Muslim wars. Let Christians & Muslims fight each other, Isreal just stand aside laughing!

  • he's full of shit as christmas goose

  • It;s not just picturees there was interviews with the police who arrested the Israelis and neighbours who saw the Mossad agents dancing on the van in ectasy and joy and all the Americans were burning around them.

    You lying Zionist reptile.

  • yea 9/11 definitely was a inside job...definitely enlighten me more about how it was a inside job..yup those planes were missles...no planes ever existed...halocaust was fake too right just like hitler

  • What a bunch of morons you people.

    Anybody with IQ figured out that 9/11 was staged a long time ago.

    You were attacked by your own government to get you idiots to go war with muslims (or rather certain strategically located muslim countries).

  • can someone please shove a NUKE down his throat.

  • This guy is full of s***t

  • @dktumlinson Wow I commented on this three weeks ago and your now responding to me out of all these other youtubers lol....that's funny. I guess we pick and choose our vics. Oh and you telling me to get my head out of my ass isn't gonna help in convincing me further to believe your baseless point.

    FYI - You should try talking to people rather then at them. Did that go over your head?

  • He's a liar. Islam say it's OK to lie to non believers. Americans ARE GOING TO HAVE THE LAST SAY IN THIS WAR. I predict by Sept 11, 2011 this ia all going to come to a head.

  • @ dktumlinson ... What a shock...a Zionist shill enters the room and throws crap on everybody's comments. Yeah, we're all wrong, and the jew is right. 70+ UN sanctions against Israel....more than all Arabic nations COMBINED...but they're all wrong, and the Jew is right. Stick your narcissistic head where the sun doesn't shine you child of Satan.  Read John 8:44 in the bible and get back to me, mmkay? You people are the cancer of the earth.

  • this fucking guy is a pice of shit and i would ram a pool stick up his ass take it out and fuck his mother with it while his dad watches

  • I WAS ROARING IN LAUGHTER WHEN I HEARD THIS GUY SAY THAT PALESTINIANS ALWAYS CONDEMN SUICIDE BOMBERS! ANYONE HEARD YASSER ARAFAT IN ARABIC WHERE HE CONTRADICTED WHAT HE TOLD US IN ENGLISH:_)???? Anyone ever heard of mohammad, the "ideal muslim" who would behead little boys and their fathers and then rape their Moms and daughters on the same night as found in islamic hadith?

  • I see JIDF is doing their best in these comments.

  • it should be celebrated. No wonder how many muslims were killed by Israel & USA before the incident. Duh!

  • @eatjews11 , Yea how many non-muslims, have been tortured, and murdered , by muslims over the decades. They pretend to be peace loving, but they are LIARS. They are hate filled, animals, and why would anyone want these peoples children to grow up to do the same things their parents have done in the pasted.

  • @eatjews11 That is a load of crape. Israel kills muslims, because muslims kill them, and are trying to crush them and take their country. Oh and Jews were there long before the muslims, they just were beated and imprisoned by the Egyptians and then the Palestinans moved in. Also muslims killed by the US, were at war with the US and trying to kill us. So, it was a case of kill or be killed. See what you would choose in that situation.

  • Mr Hassassian YOUR A LIAR, your religion says it's ok to lie so you lie to try and get people to trust in the Muslim nations. It was the SAME DAY that the video was shown, that afternoon your DAMNED PEOPLE WERE CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF 3000 PEOPLE. As far as I'm concerned we should have just sent over a nuke to kill 3000 of your people and see just how your people would like a massacre. Yes they would be innocent people but IN 9-11 THEY WERE ALL INNOCENT. AN EYE FOR AN EYE.

  • @skullgirl1996

    eye for an eye and soon the world will be blind.

    Simple question dude:

    If even the women & children celebrate 9/11 in the M.E. why the fuck are we there?

    what a waste of time/life/money.

  • Hmmm??? I believe em. Shit, at this point especially with whats been going on within our government, wikileaks, and etc etc I wouldn't be shocked if Muslim are getting a bad rap courtesy of the U.S. Lets be honest and admit that Bush knocked down the towers. Ya know he did it because EVERYTHING seems all too convenient. FYI - I think the Muslim faith has been compromised by their leaders as well. We're all being PLAYED to fight each other.

  • @vjacq88 Yes and I guess we hired those radical muslim bastards to climb aboard those planes and kill people on them and then fly them into the towers and that pasture in Pennsylvanis. Grow the hell up and get your head out of your ass. MUSLIMS DESTROYED THE TOWERS, whether they were radical ones or not. they did it and now want to deny it, and try to make themselves look and feel better. BUT , DIDN'T YOU OWN, NOTHING IS EVER THEIR FAULT. SOMEONE ELSE DOES EVIL, AND THEN BLAMES THEM.

  • Of course... Also the calls for Jihad are a fake of the "Mossad"... All the rockets launched on Israel are also a fake and in reality they are just made of soft sponge... and also Radical Muslims exploding the trains in Madrid were just Israelis who want to make intrigues between peaceful Jihadists to Europeans... etc. etc. etc. -- You are invited to see the playlist "In their own voices.." to judge yourself. --

  • and look at this little fuck in the clip..c