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  • Both stacraft and DoW are really good games I don't care if stactraft is a ripoff, and beside, Calling starcraft a ripoff is going alittle way overboard.

  • Starcraft is not like Dawn of war. It has a few similarities, but it really went it's own way.

  • @MsMorphic

    Subj: The terran is more like tau technology and imperial guard ideology combined, with the space marine power armor mixed in.-Tau ?..I really dunno about that....

    about that tu are one of the most advanced suits and space marine suits can take some few plasma shots so of course its not a mix xD its like the basic imperial guardsmen armour

  • eldar are gay. >:P

  • fuck off people who gives a fuck there games....there both good they play different anyway damn u guys suck

  • finally they haev the wraith blade!!! XDDDD

  • Protoss are more like tau+eldar.

  • @buzianyadatutube

    Nah they're more like the zeal of a space marine with the traits of an eldar. The protoss conehead resembles an eldar helmet, their whole zeal and honor thingy is a characteristic of a space marine.

    The terran is more like tau technology and imperial guard ideology combined, with the space marine power armor mixed in.

    Zerg, well its pretty obvious what they we're based on. But they also have some chaos characteristics, namely the ability to corrupt and mutate enemies.

  • i loled. And warhammer is a ri[poff from Tolkien universe; the only shit blizzard ripped off is space marine armor, and thats all

  • @Myl1fe4aiur This is untrue.

    When Blizzard came into business and created the first Warcraft it was actually designed on Warhammer because they wanted it to be a Warhammer game. Games Workshop wouldnt give them the permission so they had to alter it to be their own game. Thus Warcraft was born and as such they have been sued endlessley over infringements to Warhammer and games workshop. Starcraft is another rip-off of a Games Workshop title.

  • @Sparkeh86 Dude , get your history straight. Blizzard had been in "negotiations" with games Workshop to make a Warhammer game. For whatever reasons, the deal fell through.

    Blizzard had already spent too much time and money on the game.They decided to modified a few things and released it as Warcraft .Warcarft had enough ambiguity for Blizzard to avoid a lawsuit.(GW has never and can't never sue them)

    In retro-spec,GW must feel stupid for snuffing Blizzard .It was a bad business decision

  • @thade86 meh, still i reckon DoW and things from GW are better than starcraft and warcraft.. thats just my opinion tho,

  • @Myl1fe4aiur Nah warhammer is "generic fantasy" with a twist. W40k on the other hand is generic fanstasy with sci-fi that makes a uniqe franchise.

  • @Myl1fe4aiur When you properly compare them, it's not a rip off.

  • there is TONS of games like starcraft and dawn of war style all games are alike in some aspects. i dont belive blizzard riped off W40K. the races matches perfectly for diffrent gameplay. and also i belive tyranids is a new race for w40k board game. no zerg-tyrandis is a NO.NO.

  • @MuuUUuuPPp Tyranids have been around for an age. I remember playing with Genestealers before the first Starcraft came out. The fact is Starcraft IS a rip-off as is Warcraft and Blizzard have been sued over it plenty of times before.

    What I find interesting however is how people are going crazy over Starcraft 2 when all it is is Starcraft 1 with improved graphics. The gameplay is the same as every other RTS released 10 years ago. Dawn of War fortunately creates something new and fresh.

  • @MuuUUuuPPp warhammer 40k exists since 1975 dont trash talk ... and tyranids were implemented with space hulk and thats FUCKING OLD !!!

  • well yea.

    blizzard did rip them off really bad and its sad that those fukers took so long to make starcraft 2 and it probobly wont even be that good!

  • lol the wraithlord was raping xD

  • I feared that there would be no eldar campaign coming. So much for variety. I mean, I like Space Marines, but would have thought that making a campaign for each wasn't too much of a strain for them.

  • DOW 2 is actually the best Real Time Strategy on the market. In case people would like to play that for no cost, you can certainly find that total video game over at DOW2DownloadXcom (replace X with . ). I did, and I want to say to you the 1st player campaign is outstanding!

  • too bad Relic are dumb Farts and cant even write stories for the other races.They only seem write erotic fan fiction about SP.Hey retards take a cue form blizzard ,not all of us want to a singular race in a campaign.Give variety ass holes.You take a year to develop CR and it has one of the shortest campaign with not the races WTF

  • @thade86 man thade take a chill pill. while youre at it take a concrete pill and harden the fuck up. i read in a PC Power play magazine a while ago, that the lead designer said they have released DoW2 as an appetite wetter and plan to bring out some other race campaigns. get background story before you go off slagging others

  • @TheDudeFckKid keep dreaming

  • Yeeeaar!

    Eldars are cools!

  • gitz!

  • did I just see lightsabers O.o''

  • Does this game work with 3D analyzer?

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  • what eldar units are there compared with the original Dwan of War? (Soul Storm)

  • I wish games companies would stop ruining games and people's time installing them by experimenting with new things, like buying a game and having to download it on steam, and also on the battlefield 2142 expansion, you got a dvd case, but what was inside it was a piece of paper with a code telling you to go to a certain website, set up an account, and download it. Great way to annoy someone with the fact that they have to wait even longer to play their game.

  • i lost my steam account and now i cant download it!!!

  • But now I have it I must say that the Games for Windows Live system is really good, and it works well with Steam too, you only have to install it, and then it just puts it on steam.

    The game play is excellent and simpler than the original DoW base building and upgrading thing, and the campaign is excellent. I like the way you only get to use 4 squads through the single player, so it's easy to organize. I also like the fact that you can give wargear to any of your squads, and experiment.

  • Also, steam automatically updates the game, which is kinda cool.

  • I REALLY hate the games for windows live system. Its so complicated it couldnt be any worse, and in this kind of game its also completely useless as most people will want to play online and for that they need the original game anyway. Actually the LIVE system is the only thing that prevents me from buying the game as I had enough of this bullcrap with Gears of War.

  • The GFWL(Games for Windows Live) is really not a problem. Using that + steam really works wonderfully. There is some whining from certain ignorant people yes, but they really just need something to blame their crap computer/internet on. I've played over 500 games and never had problems with GFWL. Neither have my friends. And in a recent community forum post everybody agreed that GFWL is working perfectly.

  • how the hell do u have a problem with xbl and gfwl system is like self explanitory..

  • I agree the GFWL is fucking annoying and responsible for alot of crap in the game, you should still buy it.

    It just is that awesome.

  • I fucking hate how you can't just join your friend by right clicking his name. No you need an invite. Is bullcrap I agree.

  • how do i open my dawn of war 2 directory??

    plizz tell me

  • what is happening with this game? i just bought it and i cant login with my LIVE acc and paly, it says something about "not anabled in your region" im going mad here, anyone knows why i cant play?

  • Try making a new account. You can play DoW 2 with a free account.

  • ah..what is your country?..bring to game store and ask?

  • wasnt 40k out before starcraft? but the games are very similar and starcraft havnt even made SC2 yet, while DoW2 are selling

  • yeah im pritty sure it was

  • Starcraft is a fucking ripoff.

  • yes, a ripoff, but I have to say it's not like....not fun.....

  • ripoff?

  • @MachineLegion read comment i posted to uteko95

  • @MachineLegion yes it is, but it in turn is a good game btw

  • @MachineLegion i dunno but its a better game so... :P

  • 40k has been around since the mid 80's, so yes blizzard has taken many ideas from gamesworkshop

  • lol

    ahhh the good old days of GW..... remember that old race for 40K they had back then? What were they called.....gah...All I remember about them is taht they were like dwarves in space LOL

  • Ha! ya mean the Squats?

  • Robinsilk

    squats or demiurg

  • Space marines , The Zerg and protoss all look similar to 40k

  • Eldar remind me of the protoss

  • Yeah, that's because Protoss are heavily inspired by Eldar.

  • thats becouse blizzard riped off warhammer 40k.

    Space Marines = Terran

    Eldar = Protoss

    Tyranids= Zerg.

  • @Uteko95 lol its the 8 time i see something similar. point is everything comes from something done before. eldar,protoss=depredator, war of the worlds. orcs=the hobit, lord of rings, tall tales from the medieval ages. terran, space marine=iron man, terminator,star warsIV.zerg,tyranids=alien,SW.­other thingies for sci-fi games include similarities with jules verne works, dune, SW. point is stop screwing with other games as you ruin the gaming experience for the rest of the people.

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  • @Uteko95 or it could be the other way around, because the first starcraft is made in 1998

  • @jimmykudo1

    no, because the universe of 40k existed before dawn of war and starcraft, dawn of war is an adaptation of 40k universe. 40 k exist since 1980 at least

  • @Kamfrenchie now that i played the first dawn of war, I see it look a lot like Warcraft too

    Ork = Orc, and both are green.

    Chaos= Undead

    Eldar= Man version of Night Elf

    but hey, it doesn't hurt to base off ideas right? Even if Blizzard ripped off Warhammer and created Starcraft and Warcraft, the story of the two games is original, and Starcraft and Warcraft have more unit and structures to play with in each factions

  • @jimmykudo1

    more than Dawn of war? maybe, but certainly not more than an army in 40k. And you get many armies in 40k.

    Chaos =/= undead

    Warcraft is Heavily inspired by warhammer fantasy (which existed before too), so much that it looks like a pale copy to me.The problem is that too many things are based off warhammer.

    +eldars aren't realy elf. Elf ar kind of nice, Eldars are very egoistic. +eldar teleport through webgates, night ef have moon wells or something

  • @Kamfrenchie the reason i say Chaos reminds me of Undead is because of what the units are saying upon selection,

    the Heretic say: "My life is forfeit(or something). We are here for the dark gods." it seems that they worship the power of dark, but they are still human and oppose the Emperor of Space Marines.

    in warcraft 3, undead are dead people who also related with the power of dark, Arthas used to be human, but later joined the undead and opposed the humans, he killed his own father later.

  • @Uteko95 hmmm I think the Imperial Guard are more of a Terran than Space Marines

  • @Uteko95 40 k was there since 1990 or more . so this is really a long time before there than the starcraft bullshit

  • the eldar think their Superior let tha orks sho whos betta at shootin chopin and stompin

  • its all about the Necrons baby

  • ha ha orks better than eldar at shooting thats funny...ill give you choppin and stompin for the most part, but eldar are immensely superior at range

  • yea th guardian squads owned my terminatorrs O.O and when i came close to hand to hand combat guess what happened :D but eldar falcon tanks and you kno that thanks are overpowered when they are together! and with their shields they are overpowered and can kill any close combaters with powerfists before thy loose hp.

  • yeah i took out a bloodthirster and the entire chaos base online with two hammerhead gunships and one skyray missle gunship (dark crusade)

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  • Games great...only thing is that the Eldar are pretty over-powered.

    I haven't played them but from what i've heard, a suppressing heavy weapon platform for them is only like 270

    Which is very cheap, compared to a 3-man marine squad costing 500

    Guardians do extreme damage compared to the table-top.

    2 howling banshee squads and say bye to your army.

    Plus their heroes have the potential to go right in the middle of your army, cause massive havoc and then get away with it.

    then the Avatar....

  • wheres the necrons when you need them eh?

  • What the hell.

    How can you rant about balance when you haven't even played?

    Banshees are excellent units, but they're glass cannons -- they die within seconds of ranged fire, or even sustained melee combat. The beta 1.4 patch did give them a buff, but they're still fragile as all hell.

    Uh, Guardians do rather terrible damage in DoW2, but the patch has also increased their ranged weapon damage. Not to mention they're fragile as shit.

    Shuriplats: easy to disrupt, fragile, cost 30 power.

  • haha, thats just bullshit the only race that is a bit OP is the bloody tyranids they can have 5 fucking carnifex's while the eldars have 1 avatar and guess who will win..

  • Yeah carnifex's will win. But the most the Tyranids will be able to build is about 2 before the game ends.3 If they have most the map and save alot.

    They cost 600 req and 135 power.

    That's like half the Avatar cost.

    5 fexes alone would accumulate to 3000 req and 675 power....errmmm

    Getting that just for fexes is unreal especially in teams.

    Besides, even if 5 carnifexes were built then who in their right mind would send 1 Avatar to fight all of them?

    Mass firepower can easily kill a fex

  • a space marine plasma squad can kill a carniferax with ease

  • You have no idea what you are talking about...

    In DoW 2 Eldar are under-powered atm

    Tyranids are OP

    also, banshees drop like flies and guardians have water guns and

    You probably see Avatar once in 20 battles

  • I would assume you that you would atleast agree that the Warlock is OP...

    His fire ability, or whatever its called, took down 4 of my gaunt squads in seconds. Then one cannon took out any survivors.

    Banshees certainly do not drop like flies if they into combat.

    But ok fine here, Multiplayer and ALL the races need tweaking and balancing atm.

  • Why did you run to that fire in the first place? the area is not that big and it's your own fault if you blobbed up those gaunts, but yeah the immolate is powerful but not OP neither is warlock.

    If you want to see something overpowered, just try Ravener Alpha.

    Banshees without support of conceal/distort field or channeling runes DO drop like flies.

  • eldar should in a sense be well armed because if they get hit by pretty much anything they are fucked :P

  • how do the daemons exist then hmmm

  • War is my master Death my mistress.

    < warlock

  • k explain the daemons and chaos marines are daemons too

  • Foolish mortal, you cannot kill Chaos.

  • Why kill a useful tool, if you can so easily manipulate them? :p

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  • the only way chaos can die is by killing the blood god and to get to him is by having spiritual powers so either the eldar or the space marines cause of the librarian can defeat chaos

  • Chaos exists because of mortal emotions. You can't defeat that, only stem the tide of it's influence. But in the end...all things succumb

  • ... Where the hell did you get that idea from? Chaos is eternal, cant be killed by anything, its just emotions given form.

  • Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. And you're pulling facts out of your ass as well.

    Killing Khorne? Not possible since he's formed out of hate, bloodlust, etc., Negative emotions.

    And what the hell, a Librarian can defeat Chaos?

  • First game I've bought since Half life 2, worth every fucking penny.

  • fucking game ....

  • i want

  • Highly reccomending getting it mad game bought it like 2 weeks ago its so much more then all the reviews trust me :D

  • the gameplay looks very hectic...more so than coh. it seems like your not in total control all the time but whatever i'm complaining. I love 40k and dow so i'm sure i'll love this.

  • The games a fail...

  • I don't know, I really enjoy the game and I dislike RTS games. It's easier to get into as you're not macroing over hundreds of units. Perhaps though more hardcore RTS players won't enjoy it as much because of those reasons.

  • The new Wraithlords look so great.

  • no......chaos........:(

  • I'm downloading this game atm, new steam 10 day trials really work. i got it from:

    steam-game-trials(DOT)tk enjoy! ELDAR FTW!

  • Can someone answer me something?I don't remember from whre I heard it but

    sometime,I heard that the eldar were once the rulers of the galaxy,but what happened???it couldn't be the necrons because the eldar defeated then

  • Heh, google it.

    But basically, Eldar decadents caused the birth of a Chaos God, Slaanesh, which killed most of the Eldar and destroyed their Empire and forcing many of them into Craftworlds.

  • but when the eldar die out a new god from there souls will bring a death to chaos ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! then spacemarines will clean up and belive in a man with about 30 hip replaments and 10,000 years of wrinkles. great!

  • a man so constipated that he can't get off his gold plated toilet...

  • I always get killed in this game online when I use Orks how sad....

  • why did they change the farseer???now,she looks like a human

  • They didnt changen her. They took off her mask

  • i play dis game n i smoke dat kush bitch niggga yeah!

  • This game was fun, but i gotta say i expected more. This game was good but nothing compared to DC. I was hoping from the beginning that you could build a base at least. When playing singel player skirmish, it's not fun at all. DC is so much better skirmish. But i don't regret playing through this game, i'm glad i didn't buy the game at least.

  • that is relative.

    I'm GLAD that they've minimised the base building.

    it takes too much time away from the fighting.

  • i cant play campaigns for my one it is only for live what do i do? help

    i am stuck did i get the wrong one

    like r there two types of this game cos when i go on campaign it says need to login plz someone help

  • i m from singapore there are a compettion for DoW2 top prize 1500 thousand sing dollars!!i won!!!!!

  • can you build your own base in this?

  • no, its like an RPG

  • Im drooling for this game :(

  • These guys are one of my favourite factions too. Too bad they don't have Dark reapers with Reaper Launchers and fire dragons with Fusion Guns and Melta bombs. That would be awesome.

  • my fav fraction

  • are eldar men in this one please reply!!!

  • YES!!!

  • how come there's an avatar!?

  • Well, the Avatars is actually a Hero unit for the Eldar.

  • Err... Thats not the avatar of khaine

    its the Wraithlord they remade the Wraithlord

    in DOW2 i think the last one is not cool enough

    so they changed it + Avatar of khaine is red and

    on fire i dont think the one on the video is red or

    on fire :P

  • wtf? is the devil supposed to be the narrarator or something? more like one of the creators trying to act like a badass

  • Where are the Dark Reapers (with Reaper launchers), and Fire Dragons!? Hope they add them with the expansions, along with the Dire Avengers.

  • But.. they will also known as eldars

    Just to be clear Chaos Space marines

    took the Chaos Daemon as part of there

    race

    and Space marines took the Grey Knights

    as part of them so i think no Daemonhunters

    race on the upcoming expansion (Or is it...)

  • I think they should have separate the two races because additional units are quite powerful. Imagine if they added all Chaos Daemon units and all Daemonhunter units for Chaos Space Marines and Space Marines. Everybody would play those 2 races.

  • True but i dont mind adding new races on the game as long as it wont ruin it..

  • Yeah, you're probably right...

  • tooo short. would be better if it was longer

  • i cant get this game , it requires a higher graphic card T.T

  • This game is actually kinda fun =o

  • WANT!

    WAAANT!

  • The blood ravens are probs like 7 feet tall.

    if uve played the first game u can see there size comapred to the imperial gaurdsmen who r normal humans. aperently the ultra marines are 6 ft

  • Space marines power armor makes the person an average of 8 feet tall

  • the standard height for an astartes is like 2 meters tall though.

  • Just got this game .. sooo fuunnn

  • We die for the emperor The planet is ours brothers To glorrryyy!!!, lol

  • its better to die for the emperor, than to live for yourself.

  • Don't be a fag :p

  • Kill the Mutant,Purge the Witch, Burn the Heretic

  • That dred is small, their's suposed to be 18 feet tall.

  • The SM dred or the eldar wraith?

  • The sm dred... its surposed to be 18 feet tall.

  • wtf?really?

  • yes really! A drednaught is 3 times the hight of a normal human being. The average height in the 41, millennia for a human is 6 feet tall. 3x6 makes it 18 feet. You would hate to go up against something that tall, wouldnt you?

  • No i wouldn't.ofc lol.:)

  • geeeeez that would be fucking HUGEEEE!:p

    i would be going the opposite way to that thing on the battlefield:p

    I LOVE SM!

  • aint no lie, you know that Space Marines are 9 feet tall right?

  • really?:O...i thought they were 7?

  • No,they aren't,they are described as taller than 7,2feet.But take marneus calgar for example,he is more than 12feet tall.Welll,generally,it depends on which chapter we're talking about.

  • I have over 20 warhammer 40,000 books.. and over and over again they are described to be 18 feet. Its basically one space marine on top of another.

  • But i read that space marines are over 7.2 feet tall(i forgot where),but still,they have also noted that space marine height depends on which chapter you're talking about,for example,salamanders are shorter than other chapter(because of really strong gravity on their planet),while blood angels are taller(dunno why)..

  • well, i did some more reading and you are correct. The average space marine is 9 feet tall but it depends on the chapter and which planit their from. Like you said but the Iron hands and the black templars are 9 feet tall in height and the dreds are 18 feet tall im sure of. Their books said they were. Other chapters space marines range from 7 -12 feet tall. and their dreds can range from anything like 12 feet to 18. It really depends on who made them.

  • I'm still not sure about that 9feet.But still,marneus calgar is like 3.5 meters tall(12feet),I mean just imagine that guy standing in your room.

  • same voiceactors?

  • Our Graphics card cant run this game.

    LIFE SUCKS

  • pay $50 for a 8600GT, it'll make your way easy for years

  • i have that card (NVidia 8600GT)and ordered this game, it should come in soon. can it play the game on high with no lag at all?

    ty if u answer

  • Well the Demo is on steam. But you should be able to.

  • You can't play on high with no lag...I have the same card as u

  • hi, sorry for the ultra late reply lol i just saw your comment... i am sure you already know this by know but 8600gt lag (but playable at around 18 ~ 25 fps in normal load) on this game even at low settings :/

  • Woo!

    I'm buying this game tommorow!

    So excited!

  • Now why do they not make a game of this style for fantasy warhammer? I like 49k a lot but I love fantasy warhammer!

  • Mark of Chaos?

  • not the same style of game play.....

  • your point?

  • yea they made the eldar stuff 2 expensive in the others

  • Eldar in DoW2 are so much more kickass than they were in the first game.

  • Wrathlord are ftw.

  • Does DoW2 only contain Space Marines, Orcs, Eldar and Tyranids? I have seen nothing about other races yet =(

  • is because they gunna add the other races in expansion packs so they make money. bit anoyin i agree!

  • Ahh, that makes sense... it sucks though, but it makes sense. And I feared that I won't be able to play Tau again :>