Ever since atheism started going rabid, it's opened up a whole new field of mindless scoffing. It never was like that until about 5 years ago. Up until then, atheist were far and few and quiet. Now it's a mega hate fest against Christians. Then they say "It's not just Christians". But they soon leave every other religion alone because the real reason they are atheists, is want to sin against the true God. It's foolish to say "there is no God" as if you know, you don't! neither does your group.
this is the second time i've tried to watch this video all the way through, i failed again. in my mind it descends to "derpderpderpderpderpderpderpderp" about 3/4 of the way through. i feel ashamed and disheartened that i'm denegrating what probably is a very good point because all i can think about is "sammich, bitch".
This woman just unsubscribed from a bunch of assholes who supported the "Amazing" Atheist after his rape comments. Obviously, they aren't trying to attract the opposite sex.
2/2 Consider this: Atheist are less concerned with premarital sex (and therefore having children out of wedlock) than their religious counterparts. For this reason, and the fact that women end up raising the children alone more often than men, women atheists may have less of an option to attend conferences at all; and this is only one of many possible reasons there are less atheist women at conferences than men.
Furthermore there is no evidence of the posters suppositions whatsoever either, she only offered a hypothesis (more accurately made an assumption). I, in turn, offered alternative hypotheses.
@niapet It's true atheists tend to be less concerned with premartial sex than their religious counterparts but statistically speaking they are far less likely to be single parents.
1/2 The underling postulate of this video is flawed. Just because there are far less women than men at these conventions does not necessarily mean there are less atheist women then men in the general population; all it means is that there are far less women at this convention than men... This could be because there are less atheist women then men, or that women are not as interested in attending these conferences as men, or even that they are less able to attend.
Role models are important. Many people just aren't aware of their options, philosophically speaking, and seeing a happy, successful atheist/agnostic/skeptic they can relate to can give them confidence that it is a viable option for them as well.
Organizers of conferences should make an active effort to book women and minority speakers and the community should buy their books, follow their blogs and elevate them to the status of minor celebrities.
To be quite honest I don't think it's anyone's job to prop other people up. It's kind of condescending. If atheist women start doing amazing things, believe me, everyone will pay attention. Dawkins is a world-class evolutionary biologist, Hitchens was a world-class journalist, Harris pretty much started the entire movement with his "The End of Faith". There is a female atheist I feel worthy of the highest respect: Ayaan Hirsi Ali. If females want to be at the top they should earn it.
@Contevent Not too big on that listening thing, are you. I JUST mentioned a world class atheist woman: Ayaan Hirsi Ali! My claim is precisely the opposite: WHEN atheist women do amazing things, like go for the jugular of one of the most hostile religions in the world and endure death threats, they are acknowledged and respected. Complaining about a guy hitting on you at 4 a.m? Not so much.
I really don't see what the point of this video was.
There are reasons why women are more likely to be religious. Getting more women in the limelight really won't make a difference. What, do you think that women are so dumb that they'll just go "Oh! Look. It's a woman and she's goddless! I think I'm going to abandon my religion right away too!" It doesn't work like that. Society, and they way that it conditions women, will need to change from the ground up before we see a change.
@palerider1775 One could say "But, more women than men are attending college now!" Yeah, but look at the degrees that they are going for. The majority of women are going for social degrees, while the majority of men go for the technical. (Hell, even in my art school, the women all shy away from the technical majors. The majority go for fashion, interior design, or photography) The vast majority of scientists might be godless, but look at how many of them are women...
I agree with this but this variety can't be artificial/fake like it's usually done in TV shows etc. You can't just get some random black dude (asian/woman/teenager/etc.) for the sake of being black (or asian/woman/teenager/etc. and atheist obviously) suddenly forced to take the leader role. You really need to hand pick those individuals or this will do more damage than good. Peace.
"Just so stories" are usually wrong. I could use similar logic to predict that any group with a 5-1 male-female balance would be more likely to punish & stop those men who antagonize the few women who are present. That said, you don't need the evo pysch argument to support your recommendations..
women will never be attracted because atheism is by its very nature a response to a philosophical question, and philosophy is a subject that is not very interesting to women. it is easier to fix the ridiculous and harmful male psychology by genetic therapies.
Then she actually mentions egalitarinism, after spending several minutes promoting the notion that women, as a group, should be treated better than men, as a group.
Of course we also need to talk more about things that affect women more than men, to attract more women, because all women are sexist narcissists who can't stand being anywhere where the issues of primarily their gender isn't the focal point, or at least *a much bigger deal* than anything that affects primarily men.
The amount of condescending bullshit in all the arguments like these is just astounding, and it shocks me that so-called "skeptics" don't realize what they're doing.
I know that the only reason I'm interested in these things is because there are so many men here. If women were saying things that made sense to me there's NO WAY I'd be interested in dealing with them, because I am racist and sexist and only enjoy interacting with people who look and act the same as me.
Apparently that's what the people in the atheist/skeptical community seem to think; we need women to attract other women, because women are mindless puppets who care about style over substance.
It's an ironic solution that the way to get more women out to these events is to get more women out to these events... lol
But, it's definitely true. The major barrier is a social barrier. If women don't see other women doing something, they generally don't want to be involved (if you want to talk evolution). Women need to primarily deal with that social barrier. Maybe try a facebook (or similar group) just for women that are going to an event. It'll make a safe space to meet before anyway
I don't think the goal should be adding women for the sake of having more women.
Women should find their own reasons for joining these communities and organisations.
Wouldn't it be better to figure out why women don't tend to gravitate towards these same causes and world views in the first place?
I think giving a women-centric push tends to just create womens groups within the main group, rather than have the women become part of the main group.
It'd help getting more prominent female faces in the movement. Perhaps building up child skepticism or secular programs. Maybe some women who might be leaning to be atheists or skeptics might ease into more participation in this movement if there were more options and support for children. I don't know how big a segment of the women that'd be, but I know where I grew up most of the daycares, if not overtly religious, were tied to churches. It might help to have our names tied to daycares.
So what do you think when people say things to you that challenge your 6 years of atheism? Do you have so much invested in your chosen career path and subsequent work including vlogs that you don't care anymore what they say? You have invested, basically, your whole adult life to proving you're right about God, but you're wrong. You need God. If for no other reason than to trash Him. Don't blame God for whatever or whoever hurt you or deceived you, He waits for you until you turn back to Him.
@briddle2 Atheists do a lot more shit than trashing religion, dumbass. In fact, we have a lot more things to trash than god, a lot more worthy and important things like pro-life or sexism or homophobia.
@ObsessiveGamergirl You haven't told me what else atheists do though. If you think "trashing" things is doing something then what does it accomplish? Nothing. You just like to do it so you do.
@ObsessiveGamergirl You waste you energy and your life "trashing" stuff you don't like instead of building stuff you do like. I'm pro-life, but so are people who are alive (everybody) you can say what you want but we all want a better life as soon as possible. So that make 100% of us. Babies are part of the 100%. I'm for gender equality too. Homophobia is just a gimmick to call anyone against this behavior a name. I'm against it, but because it's harmful to all of us.
@AzukanAsimbu I understand atheism. It means you believe there is no God. But you can't know that because God is God, the only one, and we all need Him but some question why. My answer is; He died on the cross to save us all from the hell we all deserve and when you come to believe that, if ever, you will know just how much you need Him, and you will live in heaven with Him and all who accept His so very precious gift.
@briddle2 (1/2)"god" has never done anything for you, won't, and can't, because it doesn't exist. It's just some idea you've internalized into your head, and any voice or though you have in your head now is all you. Oh, and Jesus? The stupidest tale in the whole bible. To top it off, there isn't a single shred of evidence to even prove that he existed, and then there's the whole thing about his "death" not really being a sacrifice. I mean, your "god", who is supposed to be all knowing,
@palerider1775 When we say spirit, we get the idea that a certain set of ideas are attending. The spirit of life or the spirit of death are characterized by sets of different ideas. Cursing and anger are a part of one set, praise and peace are another. Jesus said unsaved people were "dead in their trespasses and sins"; yet they live. We are born sinful and we can't break out by ourselves. We need the Spirit of God who can break our chains and then we can be free.
@briddle2 (2/2) all powerful, knowing everything that will come to pass, creates two people without the ability to know right from wrong, tells them not to do wrong by eating some fruit, and then because they PREDICTABLY failed, all humanity is curse, and the only way to fix this is for "god" to rape some virgin to father himself and then sacrifice himself to himself...except not, because he never really died. All this for some stupid mistake that HE made, and we should be grateful?!
@palerider1775 My input is that they knew right from wrong in the sense that a child is told what to do and knows the danger. Eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is like handing the keys to a car to a child. Drive good = right and safe, drive evil = wrong and dangerous.
@briddle2 Nope. Your bible says they had no knowledge of good or evil. They knew less than children.
Also, your analogy is *horrible*. In the fairy tale, eating from the tree of knowledge is not comparable to giving a novice control over dangerous and heavy equipment; it's comparable to educating them.
Though, actually, that is pretty fitting. The way that the churches of the world behave nowadays are totally in line with a "god" that wants his creations to remain blind and STUPID.
@briddle2 "I understand atheism. It means you believe there is no God."
In other words, you don't actually understand atheism, because your definition of it is incorrect. Think of it in terms of... idk... ghosts. You either believe in ghosts, or you don't. Atheists don't. Degree of certainty varies from person to person.
@briddle2 I'm not sure I follow you. I was simply pointing out that not all atheists believe there "is no God." I'm also not entirely sure how you think that believing in ghosts is different from believing in God (am I understanding your point correctly?).
@briddle2 There is no evidence to any of the claims you just made. I don't need God because obviously, I'm an Atheist, and I reject that the belief in God is true. Telling me that God is the only god is a claim you have no evidence for. Before you say this, I'm going to explain to you now, that the Bible is not evidence. It relies on circular reasoning to "prove" itself. Its completely unreliable. And you say we all deserve hell. Even newborn babies who were just born? They deserve eternal hell?
@AzukanAsimbu It would be circular reasoning if it didn't reach out to evidence outside of it's self. That is the foundation for objectivity. You may have heard that it's circular so you repeat it, but it's not true. I don't believe because someone told me so, or the Bible told me so etc., I verify for myself the facts stated therein without any trouble at all, so can anyone else esp. with the internet. The list is vast and extant across all known history. (Babies etc. not now)
@briddle2 It doesn't reach out of evidence of itself. Yous ay you have evidence, so go ahead, present it. But let me tell you, if there had been any logical evidence of God that was demonstrable and verifiable, it would be global front page news. As of yet, that hasn't happened. And I noticed in a comment you said Atheists claim there is no God. That statement itself shows you do not udnerstand Atheism. Atheists do not make the positive claim of "There is no God". Its: I reject the belief in God
@AzukanAsimbu There are many instances of archaeological finds that substantiate biblical accounts that were previously dismissed as myth. These are even more astounding when what is found verifies prophecy that was foretold hundreds sometimes thousands of years earlier in the bible. These are not light matters to dismiss. What do think; people blindly believe? Not at all, it's faith not stupidity. Atheism has a definition listed in the dictionary so that is what I use.
@briddle2 ...and 2000 years from now someone will read about Spiderman and have his existence substantiated by archaelogical finds of New York City that substantiate Marvel accounts that were previously dismissed as myth.
"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.' "'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'" Luke 16:27-31
Healthyaddict your a pathetic sad human being. But it must nice being judgemental of others, breaking one of the commandments....ahh I love the smell of hypocrisy...
@maybeilljoincia That won't work. You cant tell people to stop doing things and expect them to change. It takes a value shift and understanding of where the person is coming from to change people. People have to be exposed to other viewpoints to think differently. Atheism itself will become more accepted when myths about atheism are proved false just from exposure
Interesting thoughts. I live in one of the reddest states, Wyoming. I can't find many non-theists around here, let alone any women who are atheists. If there are, they are closet Atheists. I hope my coming forward being a sceptic even to people Iknowmay help others come forward.
The solution is to tell men to stop harassing and sexually assaulting women. This is not rocket science... Make women feel safe and they will be more likely to get involved in the community.
To answer your question i will quote experts in the field of attracting women... Lil John and LMFAO. "The ladies love it when we pour shots" get some free booze at these atheist functions.
Here's a clue... Go to any church and you'll see a lot of women attending mass and participating in church events. Women have traditionally been a big part of religious communities. Men have been more likely to go off on their own in pubs & other male venues where they can get away from all that God stuff. So maybe men have had a head start in rejecting the trappings of religion.
I think the fact that staying religious for the sake of your kids/family is more the woman's job is part of the problem. It's stereotypically the girl who's gonna refuse to have sex until she's married, not the boy, etc. It's not right but it keeps more women in the extra indoctrinated religious mindset I think so there may just be less women atheists than men in general. All I know is that *I'm* a female atheist; realized I didn't believe in god at 19 and it's been a little over 2 years now. ;)
@luvtheheaven5 Yeh, there is something to the way women have traditionally participated in church activities. I think that churches have been among the few places where women have been accepted outside the home.
Less women are in the Atheist community, because, from an evolutionary standpoint, women would need to follow what the father or spouse believe, and are less likely to stray, this is not an all encompassing rule, nor is it very nice to say, just thought I'd throw it out there.
very interesting video! Women should be involved, but men also can get women outside of atheist community...
Being sexist is not wrong because men and women are different. All people are different for that matter, so we cannot treat people the same. But I think we should just get rid of stereotypes about men and women and view people as they are, not in a way what someone told us. Stereotypes create a lot of problems. People shouldn't be stereotypical!
what pisses me off is i will never find a girl like you !!!! please o please i wish more woman would have minds of there own and not just do what there mommy or daddy told them !!!!
You say that atheist and skeptic males are driven by their genes to sexually harass females. You seem to have a very sexist attitude toward and a low opinion of males. A male who did a video and made these kinds of claims about women would be called a "male chauvinist pig" and a "woman hater."
@death357geoland I think males harass females because females play games which piss some males off. I kind of agree with Ashley about harassment a little. I notice in myself that if woman does something which pisses me off, I can call her a B*** behind her back just because I'm mad. The reason why I'm mad at women is not only just because they say no, but also because they give us man mixed signals (at least to me). Some women make me think they like me, and they ignore me for no reason
@death357geoland this let alone makes me mad as hell! I'm getting over it now, but it's not easy. I think relationships between man and woman should be more open, so there is less bullshit involved. Also, it's hard for people to be wise and work things out, so people just harass each other instead of trying to understand each other...
To be honest, I have nothing against atheists. I am not a religion buff myself, and I do not even think about cramming religious thoughts down others' throats. People who are very religious tend to be narrow mind sometimes, and more susceptible to being persuaded. This being said, however, I have noticed that a strong majority of atheists I have met are not happy people. They seem to be a very negative and derogatory to others about beliefs. Atheism should work on fixing that stereotype.
I'm thinking that dressing like a dike, I mean manly, is a sure "turn off" for men & should get you some space while your smoking a cigar. Or even holding hands with your girlfriend @ the meetings should protect both? :-)
I must say this is the second video I've watch you speak & your pretty good @ talking to yourself. Ha.
I was following you until I heard the word "minority." It's like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. It's PEOPLE OF COLOR. You will never be able to recruit people of color in your movement if you continue using that kind of language. It makes you sound like just another white person telling us what to do.
@TheMayrahidalgo minority doesn't refer to only "people of color" it refers to women too which is what she is mainly talking about. Also getting angry about her saying "minority" because she's white and saying things like "you sound like just another white person telling us what to do" makes you sound racist.
@ericessable Like cmadison93 said, in the atheist community, women are a minority since there is so few. Women might not be minority in number size of the general population, but they are still considered a minority due to them holding very little power and still being discriminated against. Also Someone might be in the majority in one scenario doesn't mean they can't become the minority in another. A White male going to a mostly black college would be considered a minority.
@TheMayrahidalgo Are you retard? Do you know that minority can be anything that is less than majority? Like an only guy with sunglasses in the room is a minority of the glass wearers in the room... If you are afraid of the words, then maybe your brain is still in age of 5, because words mean many things and nothing, important thing is the meaning that person intended by them.
How about you talk about how moronic it is when "gate" is added after every controversy that happens now:
Wiener-gate
Climate-gate
Banana-gate
and now
Elevator-gate
Geez! It's so annoying! Okay everyone, Watergate was the name of a hotel that caused Richard Nixon to step down. It's not what you put after every controversy!
It seems like a greater cultural problem to me. A lot of women who had a very religious upbringing have internalized sexism and it effects their ability to think for themselves, so many of them find their religious communities a necessary structure in their lives. I think what the atheist community can do to attract female atheists is to have a call to action of sorts: let's band together and make an atheist sisterhood!
sonofatiger - are you completely drunk or did you just fail every English class and "how to use spell check" class you ever took?
Lesbians are as diverse a group as straight people. Some are Christian, some are Atheist, some are Buddhist etc etc .. and men marry women for screwed up reasons too. If you don't get married for the right reason? You are an idiot anyways.
Atheism isn't a problem where I live, most of my generation is Atheist because we aren't taught ridiculous fairy tales as fact.
We realize it are guidelines for people who do not believe that those guidelines come to you naturally via personality and getting raised well, the people that have problems with those guidelines we send to prison since we have the law.
The bible does offer guidelines which do not fit in this day and age.
I just think that Ladies beleave more in god because they think that they are the biggest sinners because alot of them marry a man for money and not love or they are Lezbends and they are looking for another lady and there are all men at the Atheist get to gethers , And Lezbends think at they are sinners the have to beleave in god or they will go to heaven when they die. I just think if gods son died for my sins he was stupids for doing so because ask him to and he died because of religion.
I like HA's hypothesis that in any gathering where women are greatly outnumbered, the men will get crazy trying to compete for the attention of the females.That seems to fit with evolution. I think it would not be the same in reverse. Perhaps in female supermajority gathering, they band together to prevent the men access to them.
@LawOfActionReaction My comment was tongue in cheek about "white guy", the joke being that because I am a member of some group, I'd have some magical insight into how they all think, or that I must be biased in favor of my "group". In reality I treat each person as individually, and I have no need to defend any group - my group, your group, from criticism, because the idea of group homogeneity is pretty unsupportable. I will try to be more clear in the future.
How do you know that sexual harassment of women is a big problem in the atheist community? Have you been repeatedly sexually harassed at atheist events? We should be sure that there is a problem in the first place. This is a question to be carefully researched.
As a woman, it is my experience that the majority of women are generally less inclined towards matters of the intellect. A woman is more likely to prefer the comfort that religion offers her, the security of knowing that death is not real and she will be loved eternally, to the colder reality of a godless world. The emotional wants to be safe, comforted, and protected are at the root of female psychology. There are exceptions, but this is largely true.
TAM did a really good job this year by working towards ensuring a more even distribution of male / female speakers. The conference was well attended by both men and women as evidenced by its data collection. You can find this information I believe on the JREF page. I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your comment about biological competition for mates. Just a side note, all of the insults and over generalizations in the comments section here are really unproductive.
Yep. I'm a girl, and all the atheist things i attend are mostly guys, much older than me (10 years +) and I feel mildly scared, awkward, and worried about getting hit on by people I'd never be interested in being in a relationship with. It does feel a bit unfair! I would love to see more women, and more women speakers. I'd love to even BE one! perhaps we could have an atheist convention geared toward women.
Unfortunately I think to get more women involved, you first have to get more women involved. I can fully understand why an atheist woman wouldn't want to go to a conference that was 99% male--that many men in one place and she's going to get attention she doesn't want. I guess the only thing that springs to mind are atheist organizations specifically for women.
HealthyAddict - you might think I was trying to be rude with my last post. But, I am wondering if you would largely agree with me. Are you frustrated by the level of control emotions seem to have over female behavior? Do you see your fellow women as rejecting true arguments you make in favor of beliefs that are comfortable? Do you find men more willing to challenge their assumptions? As a "white guy", I am happy to tell you what might be wrong with my gender, but I am asking you first. :D
I find women to be largely irrational. As a rational male, I don't make choices about whether I attend a lecture based on whether the person looks like me or not. Similarly, women seem willing to follow other women off a cliff in the interest of group identity. Women are also largely fearful creatures who don't have the confidence to gently, yet powerfully, let a male know he should back off.
HealthyAddict, you are fortunately an exception to this general rule. I wish there were more like you
I think your analysis is quite right. There are several reasons why women are less likely to be active atheists. First, they tend to be slightly more attracted to religion than men (female church attendance is always a bit higher). Second, the atheist/skeptic community is heavily dependent on the scientific community to to justify a secular worldview and life, and as we know there are many more male scientists, because the emancipation process is far from complete. We need more Carolyn Porco's!
@Dietseleeuw Haha. My intention was to be sexist. But ya know, i think it is also the real reason, generally women look after the kids while the men go in earch of food. In this case, in search of why god isnt real.
@NICH0LASM Haha sorry I didn't spot the humor. I think the female parenthood is just a human cultural tradition ("we always did it this way, so why change"), but since the sixties, -at least in Europe- many couples have experimented with the father looking after the kids and being the "househusband" while their wives go to work. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's simply a choice you make. It happens in nature too, for example some birds let the male guard the nest while the mother hunts.
You missed the fact that that female atheists tend to be more assertive and likely to speak up about it. Religious women tend to be more subserbient. Also religious communities cover it up and then it comes out every now and then as a scandal. I would guess that the problem is larger in religious communities but not talked about
I wish I had known you were down...had lots of time off...would have loved to have harrassed you again.
You hear more about stuff like this in our community is because we have no morals...right? That's what I think all the religious people keep saying anyway.
No wait...actually, it was what you said.
A small percentage of guys are serious assholes, have a high concentration of men increases the total number of assholes, those assholes will gravitate towards the few women, and there ya go.
Where do you hear these problems? The only person that complained was Rebecca Watson. I love her positive atheism but she has a bit of a persecution complex. Can you tell me where these so called events took place?
@Ashley: While greater female participation in the atheist/skeptic/agnostic community would be a very good thing, I doubt that a more even gender balance would affect the behavior of the male participants. I see this problematic behavior as a social meme. I agree with you that it is most likely sourced from our ancient ancestors' reproductive urges. However, there are social (and personal) power issues that must be part of the equation.
Skeptical women have to take on a more proportionate "workload" because of their disproportionate numbers that don't seem to be increasing despite their best efforts.
The skeptical male averages one sexual encounter every four years, so this would require the skeptical female to participate only a few times a year. This doesn't sound unreasonable.
Skeptical males DO need to follow the rules VERY carefully when approaching a skeptical female. search for
No reasoning can be perfect unless it is founded upon an absolute principle(s). In other words, no ontology, theist or atheist, can be perfect unless it has an absolute singularity from which all ascertainments of reality can be derived or substantiated. The interesting thing about mature theistic ontologies is that they alone can claim to have such an absolute ontological principle.
when would we see a lady PM in USA.i mean we did see obama a color PM.but i think you are right that sexisum problem is there in the advanced society too.gender diversity study.hey sweety say hi to me when you get this.
I'm glad women are not fond of your "community", as you call it - there are many more women in evangelical and religious circles than can be found in yours, which, ergo, means that we have the capability to produce more offspring than you, and, therefore, overcome you in the future. Hopefully individuals of your intellectual calibre go extinct.
@alexandermassa6 Seeing how secularism is one of the fastest growing populations in the world (at a greater rate than new recruits for your religion, btw) regardless of how rabbit-like you all choose to be your take on this isn't what's happening at all. Also, you are forgetting that many of our numbers come from once-religious families rather than people who started out that way (even though those numbers are growing as well).
All i have to say to the "elevatorgate" situation is ....pass a judgment after you have a daughter! Yes have a daughter and listen to the shit happens to her while she is growing up and than come and tell me what's really going on out there! Until you experience first hand what goes on out there you will never understand
@verodefacto With all due respect, what you are describing is not "first hand". You're hearing it from your daughter, which is second hand. Your immediacy is no greater than anyone watching a video about the subject on youtube.
@tml4873 What i wanted to say is that most of the people (on you tube too) don't empathise
with the other person who tells the story , because it doesn't touch them personally. In the case of elevatorgate i got two very different answers from males and females...why?because males don't relate to what happen except from their point of view! But when it happens to a close relative (daughter , mother) they tend to view it in a different light, insted of attacking the person!
@eyallev nothing wrong if the woman had not just finished talking about how much she hated that type of approach and how much she was scared of recieving threats over the internet for being an advocate for atheism and a femminist(wich mostly allegedly came from man). It's like you telling people in a pubblic forum "i am fucking scared of spiders i can't help it" and then a person gets into an elevator with you (and you are alone) and shows you a spider ...
@verodefacto from hat I understood, she was explaining how she was aginst the sexualisation of women, not that she hates it when guys talk to her. The guy said that he was interested in having a farther talk about the interesting things she said, and (being that it was late) invited her to his room for coffee. he did not sexualize her, and only wanted to share some more interesting talk with her (as I see it). she choose to see it as "this guy must want to get into my pants".
you make an excellent point.i am wondering if a more basic question could be posed as to why women are prejudicely thought of as emotional and illogical by nature.it is an idea that is propogated and nurtured in theist communities, as it keeps them docile and unquestioning.male dominance is not just nature, but nurtured and set as the norm.female subjugation is also seen as the norm.i never thought much about how many women are in the rational community before, but i guess it's not common?
@practicalmagic9 i apologize if this seems off topic.i guess i am approaching the whole question from the standpoint that society seems to view women as 'emotional" and "weaker" and men as "logical" and "dominant".i find it interesting that even in rational circles the prejudices might still exist...
Ever since atheism started going rabid, it's opened up a whole new field of mindless scoffing. It never was like that until about 5 years ago. Up until then, atheist were far and few and quiet. Now it's a mega hate fest against Christians. Then they say "It's not just Christians". But they soon leave every other religion alone because the real reason they are atheists, is want to sin against the true God. It's foolish to say "there is no God" as if you know, you don't! neither does your group.
briddle2 1 day ago
this is the second time i've tried to watch this video all the way through, i failed again. in my mind it descends to "derpderpderpderpderpderpderpderp" about 3/4 of the way through. i feel ashamed and disheartened that i'm denegrating what probably is a very good point because all i can think about is "sammich, bitch".
confession over.
mattyisagod 1 day ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This woman just unsubscribed from a bunch of assholes who supported the "Amazing" Atheist after his rape comments. Obviously, they aren't trying to attract the opposite sex.
AtheistinFundyLand 2 days ago
2/2 Consider this: Atheist are less concerned with premarital sex (and therefore having children out of wedlock) than their religious counterparts. For this reason, and the fact that women end up raising the children alone more often than men, women atheists may have less of an option to attend conferences at all; and this is only one of many possible reasons there are less atheist women at conferences than men.
niapet 3 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@niapet gross oversimplification. Do you have any evidence to base this on?
rnrbishop 2 days ago
@rnrbishop Do I have any evidence that single parents are more often women than men? Yes there is literally mountains of evidence of this fact.
niapet 2 days ago
Furthermore there is no evidence of the posters suppositions whatsoever either, she only offered a hypothesis (more accurately made an assumption). I, in turn, offered alternative hypotheses.
niapet 2 days ago
@niapet It's true atheists tend to be less concerned with premartial sex than their religious counterparts but statistically speaking they are far less likely to be single parents.
studentofsmith 1 day ago
@studentofsmith Do you have a source for these "Statistics"?
niapet 1 day ago
1/2 The underling postulate of this video is flawed. Just because there are far less women than men at these conventions does not necessarily mean there are less atheist women then men in the general population; all it means is that there are far less women at this convention than men... This could be because there are less atheist women then men, or that women are not as interested in attending these conferences as men, or even that they are less able to attend.
niapet 3 days ago
Florida really does suck.
aadams53 3 days ago
Role models are important. Many people just aren't aware of their options, philosophically speaking, and seeing a happy, successful atheist/agnostic/skeptic they can relate to can give them confidence that it is a viable option for them as well.
Organizers of conferences should make an active effort to book women and minority speakers and the community should buy their books, follow their blogs and elevate them to the status of minor celebrities.
studentofsmith 3 days ago
To be quite honest I don't think it's anyone's job to prop other people up. It's kind of condescending. If atheist women start doing amazing things, believe me, everyone will pay attention. Dawkins is a world-class evolutionary biologist, Hitchens was a world-class journalist, Harris pretty much started the entire movement with his "The End of Faith". There is a female atheist I feel worthy of the highest respect: Ayaan Hirsi Ali. If females want to be at the top they should earn it.
SerbAtheist 3 days ago
@SerbAtheist Well, you are suggesting that there is no world class atheist women, or that they don't say amazing things.
Care to back up your claim?
PS: If you say "never heard of it", then I say, "that's may be media are sexist" and we circle around
Contevent 3 days ago
@Contevent Not too big on that listening thing, are you. I JUST mentioned a world class atheist woman: Ayaan Hirsi Ali! My claim is precisely the opposite: WHEN atheist women do amazing things, like go for the jugular of one of the most hostile religions in the world and endure death threats, they are acknowledged and respected. Complaining about a guy hitting on you at 4 a.m? Not so much.
SerbAtheist 3 days ago
I really don't see what the point of this video was.
There are reasons why women are more likely to be religious. Getting more women in the limelight really won't make a difference. What, do you think that women are so dumb that they'll just go "Oh! Look. It's a woman and she's goddless! I think I'm going to abandon my religion right away too!" It doesn't work like that. Society, and they way that it conditions women, will need to change from the ground up before we see a change.
palerider1775 4 days ago
@palerider1775 One could say "But, more women than men are attending college now!" Yeah, but look at the degrees that they are going for. The majority of women are going for social degrees, while the majority of men go for the technical. (Hell, even in my art school, the women all shy away from the technical majors. The majority go for fashion, interior design, or photography) The vast majority of scientists might be godless, but look at how many of them are women...
palerider1775 4 days ago
I agree with this but this variety can't be artificial/fake like it's usually done in TV shows etc. You can't just get some random black dude (asian/woman/teenager/etc.) for the sake of being black (or asian/woman/teenager/etc. and atheist obviously) suddenly forced to take the leader role. You really need to hand pick those individuals or this will do more damage than good. Peace.
unitasetmagus 4 days ago
"Just so stories" are usually wrong. I could use similar logic to predict that any group with a 5-1 male-female balance would be more likely to punish & stop those men who antagonize the few women who are present. That said, you don't need the evo pysch argument to support your recommendations..
UrkTheKeg 4 days ago
It's seems that us men, actually care about shit, a lot of women are so heartless, and they claim we are ones to blame. smfh
Emination420 4 days ago
women will never be attracted because atheism is by its very nature a response to a philosophical question, and philosophy is a subject that is not very interesting to women. it is easier to fix the ridiculous and harmful male psychology by genetic therapies.
7lllll 4 days ago
@7lllll If we're bringing genetic therapies into the equation we could give women the genes to make them interested in philosophy.
ketsan 4 days ago
Then she actually mentions egalitarinism, after spending several minutes promoting the notion that women, as a group, should be treated better than men, as a group.
Fabulous.
MrCattlehunter 4 days ago
Of course we also need to talk more about things that affect women more than men, to attract more women, because all women are sexist narcissists who can't stand being anywhere where the issues of primarily their gender isn't the focal point, or at least *a much bigger deal* than anything that affects primarily men.
The amount of condescending bullshit in all the arguments like these is just astounding, and it shocks me that so-called "skeptics" don't realize what they're doing.
MrCattlehunter 4 days ago
I know that the only reason I'm interested in these things is because there are so many men here. If women were saying things that made sense to me there's NO WAY I'd be interested in dealing with them, because I am racist and sexist and only enjoy interacting with people who look and act the same as me.
Apparently that's what the people in the atheist/skeptical community seem to think; we need women to attract other women, because women are mindless puppets who care about style over substance.
MrCattlehunter 4 days ago
Let's kill TJ and replace him with George Clooney.
GypsyMofakka 4 days ago
It's an ironic solution that the way to get more women out to these events is to get more women out to these events... lol
But, it's definitely true. The major barrier is a social barrier. If women don't see other women doing something, they generally don't want to be involved (if you want to talk evolution). Women need to primarily deal with that social barrier. Maybe try a facebook (or similar group) just for women that are going to an event. It'll make a safe space to meet before anyway
enlightenedone676 4 days ago
I don't think the goal should be adding women for the sake of having more women.
Women should find their own reasons for joining these communities and organisations.
Wouldn't it be better to figure out why women don't tend to gravitate towards these same causes and world views in the first place?
I think giving a women-centric push tends to just create womens groups within the main group, rather than have the women become part of the main group.
What women need is reason to feel they belong.
TerminalHamster 4 days ago
What is this Elevator Gate she speaketh of?
I've Googled a little of it, but I'm not sure if I'm getting all the information.
AzukanAsimbu 4 days ago
@AzukanAsimbu
a girl was harassed in an elevator at an atheist convention.
benaberry 4 days ago
Is the community you are referring to all atheists and skeptics, or the people who attend conferences for atheism?
Driscotus 4 days ago
I was hoping to find more freethinking female channels to subscribe to, I look forward to your other videos.
MajorKris 4 days ago
It'd help getting more prominent female faces in the movement. Perhaps building up child skepticism or secular programs. Maybe some women who might be leaning to be atheists or skeptics might ease into more participation in this movement if there were more options and support for children. I don't know how big a segment of the women that'd be, but I know where I grew up most of the daycares, if not overtly religious, were tied to churches. It might help to have our names tied to daycares.
mathmexican4234 4 days ago
How are you doing these days, Healthy? Don't mind these people saying you'll go to hell and that shit, you're awesome. ^^
ObsessiveGamergirl 4 days ago
i love old white men, and i love that its a male dominated community. this is coming from a woman
spockck 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
So what do you think when people say things to you that challenge your 6 years of atheism? Do you have so much invested in your chosen career path and subsequent work including vlogs that you don't care anymore what they say? You have invested, basically, your whole adult life to proving you're right about God, but you're wrong. You need God. If for no other reason than to trash Him. Don't blame God for whatever or whoever hurt you or deceived you, He waits for you until you turn back to Him.
briddle2 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@briddle2 Atheists do a lot more shit than trashing religion, dumbass. In fact, we have a lot more things to trash than god, a lot more worthy and important things like pro-life or sexism or homophobia.
ObsessiveGamergirl 4 days ago 4
@ObsessiveGamergirl You haven't told me what else atheists do though. If you think "trashing" things is doing something then what does it accomplish? Nothing. You just like to do it so you do.
briddle2 4 days ago
@ObsessiveGamergirl You waste you energy and your life "trashing" stuff you don't like instead of building stuff you do like. I'm pro-life, but so are people who are alive (everybody) you can say what you want but we all want a better life as soon as possible. So that make 100% of us. Babies are part of the 100%. I'm for gender equality too. Homophobia is just a gimmick to call anyone against this behavior a name. I'm against it, but because it's harmful to all of us.
briddle2 1 day ago
@briddle2 You don't understand Atheism. We don't need god. Thats why we reject the belief in him
AzukanAsimbu 4 days ago
@AzukanAsimbu I understand atheism. It means you believe there is no God. But you can't know that because God is God, the only one, and we all need Him but some question why. My answer is; He died on the cross to save us all from the hell we all deserve and when you come to believe that, if ever, you will know just how much you need Him, and you will live in heaven with Him and all who accept His so very precious gift.
briddle2 4 days ago
@briddle2 (1/2)"god" has never done anything for you, won't, and can't, because it doesn't exist. It's just some idea you've internalized into your head, and any voice or though you have in your head now is all you. Oh, and Jesus? The stupidest tale in the whole bible. To top it off, there isn't a single shred of evidence to even prove that he existed, and then there's the whole thing about his "death" not really being a sacrifice. I mean, your "god", who is supposed to be all knowing,
palerider1775 4 days ago
@palerider1775 There is evidence that God exists.
briddle2 3 days ago
@briddle2 No, there isn't any evidence for the existance of "god". If your "god" exists, then he sure does love to play hide-and-seek.
palerider1775 3 days ago
@briddle2 Really?? Would you mind sharing the factual basis for the evidence for God?
ManchuDan22 3 days ago
@palerider1775 When we say spirit, we get the idea that a certain set of ideas are attending. The spirit of life or the spirit of death are characterized by sets of different ideas. Cursing and anger are a part of one set, praise and peace are another. Jesus said unsaved people were "dead in their trespasses and sins"; yet they live. We are born sinful and we can't break out by ourselves. We need the Spirit of God who can break our chains and then we can be free.
briddle2 3 days ago
@briddle2 I don't care about spirits either, because the isn't a single shred of evidence for their existence.
palerider1775 3 days ago
@briddle2 (2/2) all powerful, knowing everything that will come to pass, creates two people without the ability to know right from wrong, tells them not to do wrong by eating some fruit, and then because they PREDICTABLY failed, all humanity is curse, and the only way to fix this is for "god" to rape some virgin to father himself and then sacrifice himself to himself...except not, because he never really died. All this for some stupid mistake that HE made, and we should be grateful?!
palerider1775 4 days ago
@palerider1775 My input is that they knew right from wrong in the sense that a child is told what to do and knows the danger. Eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is like handing the keys to a car to a child. Drive good = right and safe, drive evil = wrong and dangerous.
briddle2 3 days ago
@briddle2 Nope. Your bible says they had no knowledge of good or evil. They knew less than children.
Also, your analogy is *horrible*. In the fairy tale, eating from the tree of knowledge is not comparable to giving a novice control over dangerous and heavy equipment; it's comparable to educating them.
Though, actually, that is pretty fitting. The way that the churches of the world behave nowadays are totally in line with a "god" that wants his creations to remain blind and STUPID.
palerider1775 3 days ago
@briddle2 "I understand atheism. It means you believe there is no God."
In other words, you don't actually understand atheism, because your definition of it is incorrect. Think of it in terms of... idk... ghosts. You either believe in ghosts, or you don't. Atheists don't. Degree of certainty varies from person to person.
FightBack96 3 days ago
@FightBack96 We agree; no belief is no belief. Yes? Now, I do believe in God and you don't but which is a different matter, see?
briddle2 3 days ago
@briddle2 I'm not sure I follow you. I was simply pointing out that not all atheists believe there "is no God." I'm also not entirely sure how you think that believing in ghosts is different from believing in God (am I understanding your point correctly?).
FightBack96 3 days ago
@briddle2 There is no evidence to any of the claims you just made. I don't need God because obviously, I'm an Atheist, and I reject that the belief in God is true. Telling me that God is the only god is a claim you have no evidence for. Before you say this, I'm going to explain to you now, that the Bible is not evidence. It relies on circular reasoning to "prove" itself. Its completely unreliable. And you say we all deserve hell. Even newborn babies who were just born? They deserve eternal hell?
AzukanAsimbu 1 day ago
@AzukanAsimbu It would be circular reasoning if it didn't reach out to evidence outside of it's self. That is the foundation for objectivity. You may have heard that it's circular so you repeat it, but it's not true. I don't believe because someone told me so, or the Bible told me so etc., I verify for myself the facts stated therein without any trouble at all, so can anyone else esp. with the internet. The list is vast and extant across all known history. (Babies etc. not now)
briddle2 1 day ago
@briddle2 It doesn't reach out of evidence of itself. Yous ay you have evidence, so go ahead, present it. But let me tell you, if there had been any logical evidence of God that was demonstrable and verifiable, it would be global front page news. As of yet, that hasn't happened. And I noticed in a comment you said Atheists claim there is no God. That statement itself shows you do not udnerstand Atheism. Atheists do not make the positive claim of "There is no God". Its: I reject the belief in God
AzukanAsimbu 18 hours ago
@AzukanAsimbu There are many instances of archaeological finds that substantiate biblical accounts that were previously dismissed as myth. These are even more astounding when what is found verifies prophecy that was foretold hundreds sometimes thousands of years earlier in the bible. These are not light matters to dismiss. What do think; people blindly believe? Not at all, it's faith not stupidity. Atheism has a definition listed in the dictionary so that is what I use.
briddle2 13 hours ago
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@briddle2 ...and 2000 years from now someone will read about Spiderman and have his existence substantiated by archaelogical finds of New York City that substantiate Marvel accounts that were previously dismissed as myth.
ssesf 5 hours ago
@briddle2 - has anything been dug up that substantiates biblical accounts of (say) Jesus' divinity or miracle working? - No
A fictional story can be set in real locations, it could even base its characters on historical figures - but it will still be fiction
shumble32 13 minutes ago
It's awesome how many assholes come here just to "save your soul"
OOSCVRR 1 week ago
"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.' "'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'" Luke 16:27-31
KingdomSeeker2012 2 weeks ago
Healthyaddict your a pathetic sad human being. But it must nice being judgemental of others, breaking one of the commandments....ahh I love the smell of hypocrisy...
MauiWowieOwie 2 weeks ago
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@MauiWowieOwie Religion is irrational. which means it's for people who can't think for themselves.
Shitface. Fuck your religion and your imaginary friends.
sillygames 4 days ago
knowing that there will probably be more guys than girls at the reason rally, i REALLY want to go now lol
Tekeydieb 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Aaaaawwwwww crap! you didn't crash:(
DRPANDAMAN8 2 weeks ago
@maybeilljoincia That won't work. You cant tell people to stop doing things and expect them to change. It takes a value shift and understanding of where the person is coming from to change people. People have to be exposed to other viewpoints to think differently. Atheism itself will become more accepted when myths about atheism are proved false just from exposure
casperguylkn 3 weeks ago
Interesting thoughts. I live in one of the reddest states, Wyoming. I can't find many non-theists around here, let alone any women who are atheists. If there are, they are closet Atheists. I hope my coming forward being a sceptic even to people Iknowmay help others come forward.
casperguylkn 3 weeks ago
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evolutionists, jesus, moses, abraham and moo-ham-mad are WRONG !
my god is the eightfold path, the four noble truth and women.
ilovesexyladiescbt18 3 weeks ago
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starscreamdkmo 3 weeks ago
"Oooh it's an Alligator!"
when I saw that part I died
ThatCriticalKid 3 weeks ago
I thank God you didn't crash into anyone while doing this.
TheKels1721 3 weeks ago
The solution is to tell men to stop harassing and sexually assaulting women. This is not rocket science... Make women feel safe and they will be more likely to get involved in the community.
maybeilljoincia 3 weeks ago
Ashley,
On a technical note, please get a noise cancelling microphone to use in the car. Thank you.
GuestPest 3 weeks ago
To answer your question i will quote experts in the field of attracting women... Lil John and LMFAO. "The ladies love it when we pour shots" get some free booze at these atheist functions.
youbetzler 3 weeks ago
hehe you got it backwards because of plastic there are more women than men. see The Disappearing Male. anarcha feminism is a sollution.
Antisthenez 3 weeks ago
Here's a clue... Go to any church and you'll see a lot of women attending mass and participating in church events. Women have traditionally been a big part of religious communities. Men have been more likely to go off on their own in pubs & other male venues where they can get away from all that God stuff. So maybe men have had a head start in rejecting the trappings of religion.
prschuster 3 weeks ago
"overreact" -- NOT AT ALL SEXIST!
aratinacage 3 weeks ago
or maybe atheist women just tend to be feminist liberals who overreact to male sexual interest.
funcpl2741054 3 weeks ago
if you dont see alligators in Florida you arent looking.
funcpl2741054 3 weeks ago
I think the fact that staying religious for the sake of your kids/family is more the woman's job is part of the problem. It's stereotypically the girl who's gonna refuse to have sex until she's married, not the boy, etc. It's not right but it keeps more women in the extra indoctrinated religious mindset I think so there may just be less women atheists than men in general. All I know is that *I'm* a female atheist; realized I didn't believe in god at 19 and it's been a little over 2 years now. ;)
luvtheheaven5 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from healthyaddict
@luvtheheaven5 Yeh, there is something to the way women have traditionally participated in church activities. I think that churches have been among the few places where women have been accepted outside the home.
prschuster 3 weeks ago
SHUT UP BITCH
mchlpro 1 month ago
Less women are in the Atheist community, because, from an evolutionary standpoint, women would need to follow what the father or spouse believe, and are less likely to stray, this is not an all encompassing rule, nor is it very nice to say, just thought I'd throw it out there.
ThatOneGuyNamedLouis 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
very interesting video! Women should be involved, but men also can get women outside of atheist community...
Being sexist is not wrong because men and women are different. All people are different for that matter, so we cannot treat people the same. But I think we should just get rid of stereotypes about men and women and view people as they are, not in a way what someone told us. Stereotypes create a lot of problems. People shouldn't be stereotypical!
TheRulezzzzzz 1 month ago
what pisses me off is i will never find a girl like you !!!! please o please i wish more woman would have minds of there own and not just do what there mommy or daddy told them !!!!
LegalTimes1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
You say that atheist and skeptic males are driven by their genes to sexually harass females. You seem to have a very sexist attitude toward and a low opinion of males. A male who did a video and made these kinds of claims about women would be called a "male chauvinist pig" and a "woman hater."
death357geoland 1 month ago
@death357geoland I think males harass females because females play games which piss some males off. I kind of agree with Ashley about harassment a little. I notice in myself that if woman does something which pisses me off, I can call her a B*** behind her back just because I'm mad. The reason why I'm mad at women is not only just because they say no, but also because they give us man mixed signals (at least to me). Some women make me think they like me, and they ignore me for no reason
TheRulezzzzzz 1 month ago
@death357geoland this let alone makes me mad as hell! I'm getting over it now, but it's not easy. I think relationships between man and woman should be more open, so there is less bullshit involved. Also, it's hard for people to be wise and work things out, so people just harass each other instead of trying to understand each other...
TheRulezzzzzz 1 month ago
To be honest, I have nothing against atheists. I am not a religion buff myself, and I do not even think about cramming religious thoughts down others' throats. People who are very religious tend to be narrow mind sometimes, and more susceptible to being persuaded. This being said, however, I have noticed that a strong majority of atheists I have met are not happy people. They seem to be a very negative and derogatory to others about beliefs. Atheism should work on fixing that stereotype.
spade124 1 month ago
so basically athiesism is a sausage fest lol
sockmonkeydoo 1 month ago 3
I'm thinking that dressing like a dike, I mean manly, is a sure "turn off" for men & should get you some space while your smoking a cigar. Or even holding hands with your girlfriend @ the meetings should protect both? :-)
I must say this is the second video I've watch you speak & your pretty good @ talking to yourself. Ha.
kauaikit 1 month ago
i love u :)
Atheist961 1 month ago
i would hit it
alaskanmes 1 month ago
Only smart people do not take B.S. it dose not matter what sex you are.
sonofatiger 1 month ago
I was following you until I heard the word "minority." It's like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. It's PEOPLE OF COLOR. You will never be able to recruit people of color in your movement if you continue using that kind of language. It makes you sound like just another white person telling us what to do.
TheMayrahidalgo 1 month ago
@TheMayrahidalgo minority doesn't refer to only "people of color" it refers to women too which is what she is mainly talking about. Also getting angry about her saying "minority" because she's white and saying things like "you sound like just another white person telling us what to do" makes you sound racist.
Baalat 1 month ago
@Baalat but females are in the majority in the US, they are not a minority. Just saying.
ericessable 1 month ago
@ericessable
She's not talking about the general US population, she's talking about the atheist community where women are a minority.
cmadison93 1 month ago 10
@ericessable Like cmadison93 said, in the atheist community, women are a minority since there is so few. Women might not be minority in number size of the general population, but they are still considered a minority due to them holding very little power and still being discriminated against. Also Someone might be in the majority in one scenario doesn't mean they can't become the minority in another. A White male going to a mostly black college would be considered a minority.
Baalat 1 month ago
@TheMayrahidalgo Are you retard? Do you know that minority can be anything that is less than majority? Like an only guy with sunglasses in the room is a minority of the glass wearers in the room... If you are afraid of the words, then maybe your brain is still in age of 5, because words mean many things and nothing, important thing is the meaning that person intended by them.
LMstrike 1 month ago
@TheMayrahidalgo Minority is the politically correct way to say it.
ArmaEditor 1 month ago
@hempartist420 Just wanted to make sure you are the dickhead I thought you were
oldcomic1 1 month ago
@hempartist420 Well actually men do. It's a strange statement, maybe you need to think about what you're saying
oldcomic1 1 month ago
She's soooooooo blind. Why do atheists consider themselves a community?
FanboyElite 1 month ago
How about you talk about how moronic it is when "gate" is added after every controversy that happens now:
Wiener-gate
Climate-gate
Banana-gate
and now
Elevator-gate
Geez! It's so annoying! Okay everyone, Watergate was the name of a hotel that caused Richard Nixon to step down. It's not what you put after every controversy!
jshowa7 1 month ago
It seems like a greater cultural problem to me. A lot of women who had a very religious upbringing have internalized sexism and it effects their ability to think for themselves, so many of them find their religious communities a necessary structure in their lives. I think what the atheist community can do to attract female atheists is to have a call to action of sorts: let's band together and make an atheist sisterhood!
tillume 1 month ago
sonofatiger - are you completely drunk or did you just fail every English class and "how to use spell check" class you ever took?
Lesbians are as diverse a group as straight people. Some are Christian, some are Atheist, some are Buddhist etc etc .. and men marry women for screwed up reasons too. If you don't get married for the right reason? You are an idiot anyways.
Ladykivrin 1 month ago
@Ladykivrin don't feed the trolls honey. They're not worth your time or intelect.
TheLadyOfG 1 month ago
Atheism isn't a problem where I live, most of my generation is Atheist because we aren't taught ridiculous fairy tales as fact.
We realize it are guidelines for people who do not believe that those guidelines come to you naturally via personality and getting raised well, the people that have problems with those guidelines we send to prison since we have the law.
The bible does offer guidelines which do not fit in this day and age.
alexicon89 1 month ago
I just think that Ladies beleave more in god because they think that they are the biggest sinners because alot of them marry a man for money and not love or they are Lezbends and they are looking for another lady and there are all men at the Atheist get to gethers , And Lezbends think at they are sinners the have to beleave in god or they will go to heaven when they die. I just think if gods son died for my sins he was stupids for doing so because ask him to and he died because of religion.
sonofatiger 1 month ago
I like HA's hypothesis that in any gathering where women are greatly outnumbered, the men will get crazy trying to compete for the attention of the females.That seems to fit with evolution. I think it would not be the same in reverse. Perhaps in female supermajority gathering, they band together to prevent the men access to them.
TaylorThaHick 1 month ago
@LawOfActionReaction My comment was tongue in cheek about "white guy", the joke being that because I am a member of some group, I'd have some magical insight into how they all think, or that I must be biased in favor of my "group". In reality I treat each person as individually, and I have no need to defend any group - my group, your group, from criticism, because the idea of group homogeneity is pretty unsupportable. I will try to be more clear in the future.
TaylorThaHick 1 month ago
More cock?
Forserean 1 month ago
@hempartist420 You seem to think it's a bad thing. I like it when women speak out
oldcomic1 1 month ago
How do you know that sexual harassment of women is a big problem in the atheist community? Have you been repeatedly sexually harassed at atheist events? We should be sure that there is a problem in the first place. This is a question to be carefully researched.
death357geoland 1 month ago in playlist More videos from healthyaddict
I laughed so hard when she saw the alligator
176smn 1 month ago
As a woman, it is my experience that the majority of women are generally less inclined towards matters of the intellect. A woman is more likely to prefer the comfort that religion offers her, the security of knowing that death is not real and she will be loved eternally, to the colder reality of a godless world. The emotional wants to be safe, comforted, and protected are at the root of female psychology. There are exceptions, but this is largely true.
almazdionysus 1 month ago 2
Woman here and 100% atheist.
hotcrosscoates 1 month ago
'Christian online prayer group, thousands will pray for you.' Actual ad beside video. lol
SqueedilyPlays 1 month ago
TAM did a really good job this year by working towards ensuring a more even distribution of male / female speakers. The conference was well attended by both men and women as evidenced by its data collection. You can find this information I believe on the JREF page. I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your comment about biological competition for mates. Just a side note, all of the insults and over generalizations in the comments section here are really unproductive.
ChantalGK 1 month ago
go red-headed athiest women!!! haha
wangziyi1 1 month ago
Yep. I'm a girl, and all the atheist things i attend are mostly guys, much older than me (10 years +) and I feel mildly scared, awkward, and worried about getting hit on by people I'd never be interested in being in a relationship with. It does feel a bit unfair! I would love to see more women, and more women speakers. I'd love to even BE one! perhaps we could have an atheist convention geared toward women.
queenovertheuniverse 1 month ago
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I know a lot of retarded females who claimed to be Atheists... But their young gullible minds were converted at the first sign of trouble.
disturbedking8 1 month ago
Unfortunately I think to get more women involved, you first have to get more women involved. I can fully understand why an atheist woman wouldn't want to go to a conference that was 99% male--that many men in one place and she's going to get attention she doesn't want. I guess the only thing that springs to mind are atheist organizations specifically for women.
PlasteredDragon 1 month ago
Prov 21:"19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman."
Prov 30:"20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness."
Prov 12:"4 A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband: but she that maketh ashamed is as rottenness in his bones."
Prov. 9:"13 A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing."
MagnusShaman 1 month ago
You are correct, most of the alligators have fled from the crocoducks. But the indian reservation that you just passed has plenty of them...
icur2yys 1 month ago
HealthyAddict - you might think I was trying to be rude with my last post. But, I am wondering if you would largely agree with me. Are you frustrated by the level of control emotions seem to have over female behavior? Do you see your fellow women as rejecting true arguments you make in favor of beliefs that are comfortable? Do you find men more willing to challenge their assumptions? As a "white guy", I am happy to tell you what might be wrong with my gender, but I am asking you first. :D
TaylorThaHick 1 month ago
I find women to be largely irrational. As a rational male, I don't make choices about whether I attend a lecture based on whether the person looks like me or not. Similarly, women seem willing to follow other women off a cliff in the interest of group identity. Women are also largely fearful creatures who don't have the confidence to gently, yet powerfully, let a male know he should back off.
HealthyAddict, you are fortunately an exception to this general rule. I wish there were more like you
TaylorThaHick 1 month ago
Aw c'mon, what does our community actually have in common besides the lack of a belief?
If a problem is prevalent with us, it's a problem with society as a whole.
eldrewto55 1 month ago
I think your analysis is quite right. There are several reasons why women are less likely to be active atheists. First, they tend to be slightly more attracted to religion than men (female church attendance is always a bit higher). Second, the atheist/skeptic community is heavily dependent on the scientific community to to justify a secular worldview and life, and as we know there are many more male scientists, because the emancipation process is far from complete. We need more Carolyn Porco's!
Dietseleeuw 1 month ago
the women are busy at home looking after the kids. Hahah.
NICH0LASM 1 month ago
@NICH0LASM Now that is a sexist comment. Children always have a father and mother; why couldn't a father look after the kids and the mother work?
Dietseleeuw 1 month ago
@Dietseleeuw Haha. My intention was to be sexist. But ya know, i think it is also the real reason, generally women look after the kids while the men go in earch of food. In this case, in search of why god isnt real.
NICH0LASM 1 month ago
@NICH0LASM Haha sorry I didn't spot the humor. I think the female parenthood is just a human cultural tradition ("we always did it this way, so why change"), but since the sixties, -at least in Europe- many couples have experimented with the father looking after the kids and being the "househusband" while their wives go to work. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's simply a choice you make. It happens in nature too, for example some birds let the male guard the nest while the mother hunts.
Dietseleeuw 1 month ago
Well said. There's a clever girl *pats your bottom*.
cameraguy38 1 month ago
You missed the fact that that female atheists tend to be more assertive and likely to speak up about it. Religious women tend to be more subserbient. Also religious communities cover it up and then it comes out every now and then as a scandal. I would guess that the problem is larger in religious communities but not talked about
oldcomic1 2 months ago 22
@oldcomic1 Umm... I am a religious female, and loud mouthed!
BethiBEAR 3 weeks ago
I wish I had known you were down...had lots of time off...would have loved to have harrassed you again.
You hear more about stuff like this in our community is because we have no morals...right? That's what I think all the religious people keep saying anyway.
No wait...actually, it was what you said.
A small percentage of guys are serious assholes, have a high concentration of men increases the total number of assholes, those assholes will gravitate towards the few women, and there ya go.
KingHeathen 2 months ago
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Where do you hear these problems? The only person that complained was Rebecca Watson. I love her positive atheism but she has a bit of a persecution complex. Can you tell me where these so called events took place?
TheAtheistSocialist 2 months ago
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TheAtheistSocialist 2 months ago
@Ashley: While greater female participation in the atheist/skeptic/agnostic community would be a very good thing, I doubt that a more even gender balance would affect the behavior of the male participants. I see this problematic behavior as a social meme. I agree with you that it is most likely sourced from our ancient ancestors' reproductive urges. However, there are social (and personal) power issues that must be part of the equation.
aikimark1955 2 months ago
I would like to have an alligator dinner.
connerjd 2 months ago
Skeptical women have to take on a more proportionate "workload" because of their disproportionate numbers that don't seem to be increasing despite their best efforts.
The skeptical male averages one sexual encounter every four years, so this would require the skeptical female to participate only a few times a year. This doesn't sound unreasonable.
Skeptical males DO need to follow the rules VERY carefully when approaching a skeptical female. search for
SNL - Sexual Harassment and You
bobconkl 2 months ago
your a little arrogant to thing that real men care about you or what you think
circleseverywhere 2 months ago
men being sexist? solution: get more women.
yea, I'm ok with that.
eyallev 2 months ago
The BROADer picture as a HOLE ???!!!! Are you going to attract more women with language like that?
fluffymcdeath 2 months ago
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HeadDockta 2 months ago
My wife does not feel comfortable on camera, and I think that might be the case for a lot of female Atheists.
rednecktrucker1969 2 months ago
...because, God, the Absolute Truth is the Complete Whole, the Supreme Person - Bhagavān, the one without second. God encompass's all truths.
parkerjwill 2 months ago
No reasoning can be perfect unless it is founded upon an absolute principle(s). In other words, no ontology, theist or atheist, can be perfect unless it has an absolute singularity from which all ascertainments of reality can be derived or substantiated. The interesting thing about mature theistic ontologies is that they alone can claim to have such an absolute ontological principle.
parkerjwill 2 months ago
Glad I don't have this awkward issue lol. But atheist men, check your egos and show some respect. Would be nice to see more women around.
Gaytheist13 2 months ago
when would we see a lady PM in USA.i mean we did see obama a color PM.but i think you are right that sexisum problem is there in the advanced society too.gender diversity study.hey sweety say hi to me when you get this.
armourdaddy805 2 months ago
I'm glad women are not fond of your "community", as you call it - there are many more women in evangelical and religious circles than can be found in yours, which, ergo, means that we have the capability to produce more offspring than you, and, therefore, overcome you in the future. Hopefully individuals of your intellectual calibre go extinct.
alexandermassa6 2 months ago
@alexandermassa6 Seeing how secularism is one of the fastest growing populations in the world (at a greater rate than new recruits for your religion, btw) regardless of how rabbit-like you all choose to be your take on this isn't what's happening at all. Also, you are forgetting that many of our numbers come from once-religious families rather than people who started out that way (even though those numbers are growing as well).
Fir3bird23 2 months ago
All i have to say to the "elevatorgate" situation is ....pass a judgment after you have a daughter! Yes have a daughter and listen to the shit happens to her while she is growing up and than come and tell me what's really going on out there! Until you experience first hand what goes on out there you will never understand
verodefacto 2 months ago
@verodefacto With all due respect, what you are describing is not "first hand". You're hearing it from your daughter, which is second hand. Your immediacy is no greater than anyone watching a video about the subject on youtube.
tml4873 2 months ago
@tml4873 What i wanted to say is that most of the people (on you tube too) don't empathise
with the other person who tells the story , because it doesn't touch them personally. In the case of elevatorgate i got two very different answers from males and females...why?because males don't relate to what happen except from their point of view! But when it happens to a close relative (daughter , mother) they tend to view it in a different light, insted of attacking the person!
verodefacto 2 months ago
@verodefacto so please explain to me (IM's are ok) how what the guy did in the "elevatorgate" is wrong?
how is asking a girl out on a date, or to come to your room (as it was already late, and they were both on thier way back from the bar) wrong?
his only "crime" was being straight (i.e. attacted to women). so what did he do wrong?
how is what he did any diferant than what the guys on "simple-pick-up" do? (or are you saying they are sexists too?)
eyallev 2 months ago
@eyallev nothing wrong if the woman had not just finished talking about how much she hated that type of approach and how much she was scared of recieving threats over the internet for being an advocate for atheism and a femminist(wich mostly allegedly came from man). It's like you telling people in a pubblic forum "i am fucking scared of spiders i can't help it" and then a person gets into an elevator with you (and you are alone) and shows you a spider ...
verodefacto 2 months ago
@verodefacto from hat I understood, she was explaining how she was aginst the sexualisation of women, not that she hates it when guys talk to her. The guy said that he was interested in having a farther talk about the interesting things she said, and (being that it was late) invited her to his room for coffee. he did not sexualize her, and only wanted to share some more interesting talk with her (as I see it). she choose to see it as "this guy must want to get into my pants".
eyallev 2 months ago
@verodefacto
Translation, all men are rapists.
Nice, more proof of the absurd amount of femnazis in the atheist community.
mecher3k 2 months ago
you make an excellent point.i am wondering if a more basic question could be posed as to why women are prejudicely thought of as emotional and illogical by nature.it is an idea that is propogated and nurtured in theist communities, as it keeps them docile and unquestioning.male dominance is not just nature, but nurtured and set as the norm.female subjugation is also seen as the norm.i never thought much about how many women are in the rational community before, but i guess it's not common?
practicalmagic9 2 months ago
@practicalmagic9 i apologize if this seems off topic.i guess i am approaching the whole question from the standpoint that society seems to view women as 'emotional" and "weaker" and men as "logical" and "dominant".i find it interesting that even in rational circles the prejudices might still exist...
practicalmagic9 2 months ago