Too bad it wouldn't be that simple in a real war sitch. You're better of putting a hand over his mouth, then stab the shit out of his kidney. Then set him gently in the water to float away...
if the attacker takes your balance first like shown here you cannot move your legs to get a position. your natural instinct is to try to regain balance, at that point the choke is already being applied. if the 2 of you fall back the choke is still applied. no way out!!
@Vimat15 It's actually possible to knock-out after about 6-7 seconds if you can completely shut-off the carotid arteries. My brother knocked me out a bit (a bit meaning he let me go after I went limp) and I didn't know I was choking because I could still breathe. I wanted to see how long it would take, too. HAHA!
i train bjj, but it seems like outside of the throws, the rest of the gracie jiu-jitsu standing game is just a bunch of tricks and cheap little moves which may or may not work.
BJJ is a ground based martial art, its not meant for standing or for fighting multiple opponents. JKT6 is right, what you do is cross train and learn more arts. an artist usually doesnt just practice strictly with 1 medium
There's always a counter to every technique. There are no "inescapable" techniques. However I would agree with an earlier post in that your best bet is never to get caught in this in the first place.
@JKDLIFER I agree to you there! however when a technique is very tight and finished for the closure! then it's nearley impossible to get out of it! however it is always possible to counter the technique before that happens! don't you agree?
@takidabossen Absolutely agree. Timing is everything.The best escape is never to get caught in the first place. The earlier you recognize it, the better. However I still stand by my comments that there are no such things as inescapable techniques. There's always a counter available.
@takidabossen hehe yes i understand perfectly what you mean! that is some good words from you ;) do you train bjj personaly? if so what belt degree do you have?
@mail9 There are escapes.... They're just not high percentage against a strong opponent.
Use one hand to pull down on the "choking" arm which is around your neck, to create space between his arm and your neck and give you some survival time. Use the other hand to reach back and grab his "supporting" arm, which is behind your head, and pull that one out of place. Once he only has the arm around your neck, you have escape options such as a shoulder throw, or just ripping your head out of there.
@MrGarky I actually learned one other one against this specific standing variation, and usually works on taller guys (weak or strong). You grab the arm around your neck with both hands, one on his forearm and one on the bicep by the elbow. Step behind his outside leg and turn that way, and voila, he lets go and is take down. Finish with armbar, kimora, head-arm choke, etc.
@ehukai2003 if the attacker takes your balance first like shown here you cannot move your legs to get a position. your natural instinct is to try to regain balance, at that point the choke is already being applied. if the 2 of you fall back the choke is still applied.
Sankaku Jime is the leg Triangle in most martial arts. (I was in the Bujinkan from April 1999-now. I stopped training two years ago, but I still pay membership fees. I train BJJ strictly now.)
If you say this technique doesn't work, maybe you just don't know how to apply the pressure correctly. You don't sqeeze hard with your arms, the trick is actually to flex your back muscles. Try it, and you will understand. Hope this helps. Good luck with the bjj training.
i do gracie jiu jitsu AND traditional japanese koryu jujutsu, and it was the coolest thing for me to see that kick move to break them down, because it really shows the gracie roots in japanese ju jutsu. We do kicks like that aaaaall the time in traditional jiujitsu which is what gracie jiujitsu was based off of.
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With proper Krav Maga training if you could break his grip with well placed elbow thrusts back. Considering his right arm is open if you struck in the bottom it would open up. Preventing you from tapping out and breaking his grip on you. Still looks risky, could end up breaking your own neck.
yea some ninjistu people said that to bras rutten, that they would eye gouge him when he tried, he replied ok go ahead when u move to gouge ill snap your neck... ok lets start... wat you dont want to... o ok....
Hey get off the computer matt357. Your just a youtube martial artist. Become known for anything else besides commenting on youtube. You obviously have never had a fight with anybody besides your sister. Mapquest the Gracie Academy, go learn something. And you like raping men? WOW! That's pretty gay. No wonder like Jiu-Jitsu.
I don"t train in the Gracie Academy but I think this technique is effective, even more against people who don"t train in a grappling art. Good technique, must be a little difficult in a bigger guy.
The technique works and it only take 3 seconds. Normal reflex is for the subject to grab the arm not the balls. When he finally decided to grab your balls he would be knocked out on his. You lost your balls because he knew you were coming.
are you stupid? i actually take bjj but this technique does not work i had some one in a standing rnc and the person reached back and squeezed my balls until i let go these grachies have no idea what there talking about
I think the Gracies are doing a great job teaching the world their style of jiujitsu, Im only 5'8 but ive defeated big drunk motherfu**ers thats like 6'2 in the street thanks to them, keep it up Gracies!!!
BTW I always acted in self defense I never picked the fights
this is a horrible technique..... i did this in a street fight and the person reached back and squeezed my balls until i let go these grachies have no idea what there talking about
Talk is cheap....come to the mat......before you get a good squueze on the privates....you will be unconcious. You must be one of those dim mak, pressure point masters.
are you stupid? i actually take bjj but this technique does not work i had some one in a standing rnc and the person reached back and squeezed my balls until i let go these grachies have no idea what there talking about
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u must be real stupid watch some vids of people being choked out it takes about 10 secs NOT 3 retard fuck u u dumb cunt ps i raped the gracies in the asshole he loved it
If your technique was truly excellent as you say, you'd know to respect the Gracie method, even if you do not practice it. The halls of shame are lined with the portraits of people with your level of confidence, and much more skill.
Perfect but how do u control which person learns this and uses it for it s own good, jiu jitsu was NOT meant to be too public....the sport version is but not this aspect....sad
No, I would never determine what they should do, but answer this, would you agree to openly show tecniques designed to temporarily nulify any person regardless of their backround ei.. a drug addict, a criminal, serial killer, rapist, child molester, kidnapper, convict in jail??? NO? ok neither do I agrre to that, and you never know who watches these videos, and I never messed with what you should learn.
I got a real basic problem that sometimes happen and I need some help, when I get the guillotine I normally always drop down and pull guard, but because my hands are taken up doing the choke, the guy I am choking uses his hands to do a simple guard pass by elbow or hand in thigh and push through. Is my guard too low? What's wrong?
The choke should work in seconds...let him try to pass, choke him out. However, with that said, you should not MAKE a technique work, if your loosing position, transition appropriate to his move....Most beginners try to MAKE a technique work after they loose position. remember this "Position before submission"
as a soldier, you will have the weapons you need for backup. If you don't have a backup and your within reaching range you can disarm the bad guy. A riffle is easier to disarm than a hand gun.
Too bad it wouldn't be that simple in a real war sitch. You're better of putting a hand over his mouth, then stab the shit out of his kidney. Then set him gently in the water to float away...
washabatrang 1 month ago
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washabatrang 1 month ago
Is that the tigris river?
Hulkmania316 4 months ago
I find this so interesting, Jun Fan Gung Fu has an application just like this. I love Jiu-jitsu.
XiaoLinLong 9 months ago
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if the attacker takes your balance first like shown here you cannot move your legs to get a position. your natural instinct is to try to regain balance, at that point the choke is already being applied. if the 2 of you fall back the choke is still applied. no way out!!
muddack 10 months ago
Man, i was there back in 2004-2005...OIF II. GJJ All the way..thats the BIAP.
Danielangellinan 1 year ago
then the terrorist wakes up and alerts the entire place.....your fucked
mataleao360 1 year ago
@mataleao360 If it's someone trying to kill you, why would you release the choke?
Lesnar316 1 year ago
how long does it take before someone passes out if you do this one?
Vimat15 1 year ago
@Vimat15 10 seconds
josh1212121 1 year ago
@Vimat15 It's actually possible to knock-out after about 6-7 seconds if you can completely shut-off the carotid arteries. My brother knocked me out a bit (a bit meaning he let me go after I went limp) and I didn't know I was choking because I could still breathe. I wanted to see how long it would take, too. HAHA!
ehukai2003 1 year ago
i train bjj, but it seems like outside of the throws, the rest of the gracie jiu-jitsu standing game is just a bunch of tricks and cheap little moves which may or may not work.
BJJ NEEDS A BETTER STANDING GAME!!!
luchador1764 1 year ago
@luchador1764 you could just cross train
JKT6 1 year ago
BJJ is a ground based martial art, its not meant for standing or for fighting multiple opponents. JKT6 is right, what you do is cross train and learn more arts. an artist usually doesnt just practice strictly with 1 medium
slopedawg1 1 year ago
Nice. Simple but nice.
There's always a counter to every technique. There are no "inescapable" techniques. However I would agree with an earlier post in that your best bet is never to get caught in this in the first place.
JKDLIFER 1 year ago
@JKDLIFER I agree to you there! however when a technique is very tight and finished for the closure! then it's nearley impossible to get out of it! however it is always possible to counter the technique before that happens! don't you agree?
takidabossen 1 year ago
@takidabossen Absolutely agree. Timing is everything.The best escape is never to get caught in the first place. The earlier you recognize it, the better. However I still stand by my comments that there are no such things as inescapable techniques. There's always a counter available.
JKDLIFER 1 year ago
@takidabossen hehe yes i understand perfectly what you mean! that is some good words from you ;) do you train bjj personaly? if so what belt degree do you have?
takidabossen 1 year ago
lol or you could pick up his gun
cmzuppe 1 year ago
Can't you wrap your left arm around the neck at the same time you kick the back of the knee cap and then choke?
MrPolskaDuma 1 year ago
Hadaka jime in judo
Wadim61 2 years ago
@Wadim61 Who gives a fuck?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
i like that. that way he can use an ippon seoi nage. =]
perdedor3571 2 years ago
how to escape this?
mail9 2 years ago
pray that a stray meteor hits your attacker in the face.
perdedor3571 2 years ago 5
Don't get caught in it in the first place. lol
mickeyford 2 years ago
@mail9 no escape once the choke is in place, the trick is not to ever get caught in it.
the only escape in my experience is a tap-out lol
ChrisTripp 1 year ago
@mail9 There are escapes.... They're just not high percentage against a strong opponent.
Use one hand to pull down on the "choking" arm which is around your neck, to create space between his arm and your neck and give you some survival time. Use the other hand to reach back and grab his "supporting" arm, which is behind your head, and pull that one out of place. Once he only has the arm around your neck, you have escape options such as a shoulder throw, or just ripping your head out of there.
MrGarky 1 year ago
@MrGarky I actually learned one other one against this specific standing variation, and usually works on taller guys (weak or strong). You grab the arm around your neck with both hands, one on his forearm and one on the bicep by the elbow. Step behind his outside leg and turn that way, and voila, he lets go and is take down. Finish with armbar, kimora, head-arm choke, etc.
ehukai2003 1 year ago
@ehukai2003 if the attacker takes your balance first like shown here you cannot move your legs to get a position. your natural instinct is to try to regain balance, at that point the choke is already being applied. if the 2 of you fall back the choke is still applied.
muddack 10 months ago
"This is where Saddam used to chill." HAHA!
chrokeii 2 years ago
Awesome- in Ninjutsu we call that Sankaku Jime
BujinkanMartialArts 2 years ago
@BujinkanMartialArts
that's weird...Sankaku jime in judo is the triangle choke
maxbigwood 2 years ago
That's because Judo comes from Samurai Jujutsu, in the Bujinkan we have the original Samurai Jujutsu in our training.
BujinkanMartialArts 2 years ago
rofl
Xaymot 2 years ago
Sankaku Jime is the leg Triangle in most martial arts. (I was in the Bujinkan from April 1999-now. I stopped training two years ago, but I still pay membership fees. I train BJJ strictly now.)
WhtMike2006 2 years ago
And I started complimenting Ninjutsu with Judo in 2001.
WhtMike2006 2 years ago
OMG i didnt know the bad guy had a gun too! Is this for splinter cell or people who want to mug people more inefficiently?
gaBehcuoDsuoitneterP 2 years ago
I must say, better to use this one some guy than to blow his brains out right lol
newplanet15 2 years ago
Depends on the guy....
jacksonswastedlife 2 years ago
I wonder how many terroists have been captured with this.
Tippet76 2 years ago
If you say this technique doesn't work, maybe you just don't know how to apply the pressure correctly. You don't sqeeze hard with your arms, the trick is actually to flex your back muscles. Try it, and you will understand. Hope this helps. Good luck with the bjj training.
BriTOFmokwi 2 years ago
i do gracie jiu jitsu AND traditional japanese koryu jujutsu, and it was the coolest thing for me to see that kick move to break them down, because it really shows the gracie roots in japanese ju jutsu. We do kicks like that aaaaall the time in traditional jiujitsu which is what gracie jiujitsu was based off of.
this is awesome.
chucknorrispranks 2 years ago
thanks so much god bless u
blackquiver 2 years ago
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With proper Krav Maga training if you could break his grip with well placed elbow thrusts back. Considering his right arm is open if you struck in the bottom it would open up. Preventing you from tapping out and breaking his grip on you. Still looks risky, could end up breaking your own neck.
MrOsiris201088 2 years ago
yea some ninjistu people said that to bras rutten, that they would eye gouge him when he tried, he replied ok go ahead when u move to gouge ill snap your neck... ok lets start... wat you dont want to... o ok....
lagook 2 years ago 2
haha once he's out you throw the body into the river
mdmenchaca360 2 years ago 12
My thoughts exactly.
bjjartist 2 years ago
@mdmenchaca360 lol fo real
esoterikal83 1 year ago
Hey get off the computer matt357. Your just a youtube martial artist. Become known for anything else besides commenting on youtube. You obviously have never had a fight with anybody besides your sister. Mapquest the Gracie Academy, go learn something. And you like raping men? WOW! That's pretty gay. No wonder like Jiu-Jitsu.
redndev69 2 years ago
right hand palm up to finish choke?
fedorlei 2 years ago
yes
matt357 2 years ago
nah man palm down brah
fedorlei 2 years ago
you have studied alot of different arts haven't you rener.
Zatoichi291 2 years ago
This is where Saddam used to chill roflllllllll
mkhotpropeerties 2 years ago
I don"t train in the Gracie Academy but I think this technique is effective, even more against people who don"t train in a grappling art. Good technique, must be a little difficult in a bigger guy.
Dudongo86 2 years ago
The technique works and it only take 3 seconds. Normal reflex is for the subject to grab the arm not the balls. When he finally decided to grab your balls he would be knocked out on his. You lost your balls because he knew you were coming.
vcabaza 2 years ago
no my technique is excellent this standing rnc does not work
matt357 2 years ago
this is where sadam used to chill......hahahahah
subbieboyz03 2 years ago
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are you stupid? i actually take bjj but this technique does not work i had some one in a standing rnc and the person reached back and squeezed my balls until i let go these grachies have no idea what there talking about
matt357 2 years ago
I think the Gracies are doing a great job teaching the world their style of jiujitsu, Im only 5'8 but ive defeated big drunk motherfu**ers thats like 6'2 in the street thanks to them, keep it up Gracies!!!
BTW I always acted in self defense I never picked the fights
flamholc1 2 years ago 2
nigger
matt357 2 years ago
this is a horrible technique..... i did this in a street fight and the person reached back and squeezed my balls until i let go these grachies have no idea what there talking about
matt357 3 years ago
Talk is cheap....come to the mat......before you get a good squueze on the privates....you will be unconcious. You must be one of those dim mak, pressure point masters.
oooooo im scared
daltonsbadboy 2 years ago
this is a response to matt357
daltonsbadboy 2 years ago
are you stupid? i actually take bjj but this technique does not work i had some one in a standing rnc and the person reached back and squeezed my balls until i let go these grachies have no idea what there talking about
matt357 2 years ago
Your technique is wrong then, because in a proper RNC the other guy will go unconscious in 3 seconds flat.
Draykid 2 years ago
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u must be real stupid watch some vids of people being choked out it takes about 10 secs NOT 3 retard fuck u u dumb cunt ps i raped the gracies in the asshole he loved it
matt357 2 years ago
v=Q6c61D0CEh0
Watch, from the time he starts applying pressure to when the guy goes out for a moment it's roughly 3 seconds.
Same results here: v=vSVHgReJnew
Draykid 2 years ago
Stop hating. I met Royce Gracie, guy was cool. don't start saying s**** about jiu jitsu.
bboygamble342 2 years ago
Maybe your technique needs some work. I used other moves and I'm 5' 7" and tapped out guys 6' and weigh 210.
Practice more.
ECMarine6 2 years ago
no my technique is excellent this standing rnc does not work
matt357 2 years ago
If your technique was truly excellent as you say, you'd know to respect the Gracie method, even if you do not practice it. The halls of shame are lined with the portraits of people with your level of confidence, and much more skill.
auraldanger 2 years ago 2
Perfect but how do u control which person learns this and uses it for it s own good, jiu jitsu was NOT meant to be too public....the sport version is but not this aspect....sad
chalio33 3 years ago
i guess that you now determine what the gracies should and should not do now aren't you
not only that but you seem to think that you can say what i should and should not learn
diomedes39 3 years ago
No, I would never determine what they should do, but answer this, would you agree to openly show tecniques designed to temporarily nulify any person regardless of their backround ei.. a drug addict, a criminal, serial killer, rapist, child molester, kidnapper, convict in jail??? NO? ok neither do I agrre to that, and you never know who watches these videos, and I never messed with what you should learn.
chalio33 3 years ago
Excellent video and this does work really well especially if you deliver a strong and fast kick to the back of the calf muscle.
Othern than the choke , i would opt for the neck-snap which would kill your enemy in less than 2 seconds.
Another great from behind technique would be to stab him kidneys or ribs first , with your LEFT hand choking his neck.
Hope that helps .
Ciao
MDIS 3 years ago
maybe, we don't want to kill...maybe the enemy has information we can obtain....(not likely now with a weak postion on interogation).
daltonsbadboy 3 years ago
I got a real basic problem that sometimes happen and I need some help, when I get the guillotine I normally always drop down and pull guard, but because my hands are taken up doing the choke, the guy I am choking uses his hands to do a simple guard pass by elbow or hand in thigh and push through. Is my guard too low? What's wrong?
20UFC93 3 years ago
The choke should work in seconds...let him try to pass, choke him out. However, with that said, you should not MAKE a technique work, if your loosing position, transition appropriate to his move....Most beginners try to MAKE a technique work after they loose position. remember this "Position before submission"
daltonsbadboy 3 years ago
what happens if he doesn't put his gun down and he hears you coming?...
anyways, cool move!
stlthofnight 3 years ago
as a soldier, you will have the weapons you need for backup. If you don't have a backup and your within reaching range you can disarm the bad guy. A riffle is easier to disarm than a hand gun.
daltonsbadboy 3 years ago
happy new year to the guys at the gracie academy!
RodrigoVanilla93 3 years ago
Haha you guys are crazy
leemustdie760 3 years ago
nice one
d3rfliw 3 years ago