This is the worst idea ever!!! Bikes don't even waste that much gas to begin with. First u ruin cars, and now you're going after bikes with these stupid batteries. There is no point in even arguing. It was disscrasefull to see that r1 ruined like that. It was ugly too. Gas is way better and you know it.
@EIKONOMI Then what happens when the Earth runs out of oil? LOL that R1 ain't going to be much use to you if it don't run. Why not save the Gas and preserve those awesome machines, so it will last another 100 years instead of wasting it for some dumb ass redneck like you to ride around everyday?
Yes, even $1600 u can buy a great e-bike. My busettii Big 50 Mile Electric Bike had it for 3 months and it is great. other e-bikes but they are way slower and wimpier than my Busettii. The BYI Super Lithium Batteries can get up to 60 miles on one charge and the top speed is about 27 MPH. Cuz of BIKE paths and right shoulder of the road can go faster than cars across town. I want to try the new Busettii 86 mileVORTEX mountain bike soon ! drop me a line , Christine
just an idea...im no expert infact im pretty stupid so hear me out......where as a normal bike uses a fan to reduce the heat ......could you not use the fan as a dynamo....to recharge the battery's whilst its running......that would reduce the charge time and eventually mean that you could practically have a billion dollar invention....ie an everlasting battery..........oh by the way if it works and you become very rich .....remember me wont you ....i could use a few pounds :)
@uktaz28 The average pollution and carbon footprint created by 12 kilowatt hous of electricty is nearly equal to that of one gallon of gasoline. Estimates done by Busettii Electric Bikes show that 6 kilowatt hours electricty needed to charge a huge 72 volt 50 ah lithium battery. This bike will go 75 miles on each charge so that means its about one fourth of the carbon footpring of an equivolent gas powered motorcycle. A 75% cut in carbon and pollution out put sounds good to me !
Oh, and Hidrogen cars are moved by electric engines, the energy that feeds this electric engine results from the transformation of Hidrogen into water by a type of "battery" that is inked to the Hidrogen tank! XD
It's more like talking to someone who is well informed. I know you like Hydrogen, but do you know that hydrogen is produced by heating steam and natural gas to high temperatures? The Carbon in the natural gas combines with the oxygen in the water to make carbon dioxide and hydrogen. Also the Hydrogen Honda that everyone points to as the future because batteries are too expensive... The fuel cell inside has over a million dollars worth of metal inside.
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wow 75miles:O thats not eco, charging the thing prob makes more co2 that gas ever would! maybe it be eco if you had your own windmill to charge it:P as always saying a electric motors are a dumb idea, and will never work! we need new fuel not new motors!
@snowyywwinters The first combution vehicles didn't get nearly that far or at those speeds mr. snowyywinters. Now if we had you to support them, where would your precious combustion engine be? :) just kiddin
If you would read some of the responses below then you would learn that where everybody is betting on is to reduce the output to 50% or so by going electric. If some efficient renewable source could be used this would drop further. Something like the windmill you're sugesting.
@snowyywwinters That isn't so. Electric motors are more efficient than IC's - where they fall over is in the batteries which can't hold much more energy than a gallon of petrol (if you're lucky), so the range is pretty pitiful and they are insanely expensive. Still, that could change, although a large part of the problem is lack of imagination on the part of the EV industry as well as insane battery prices.
@badnewswade other motors will only be massproduced when the oil runs out. its all about money, like the green taxes, when global warming has nothing to do with cars. honda made some hydro cars which is h20 gas, and it works the same as petrol, and casue NO co2! electric motors will only ever be a hobbie for some people! they have no use in the real world! but hydrogen does! honda needs to step up and stop being bullied by the oil companys! everything come down to money!!
Don't say that, because if you're taking into account the CO2 produced to charge electric engines, than you should do the same to fuel engines, and believe me the CO2 produced to feed fuel engines is far superior! XD The greatest problem in electric vehicles is the storage of power, really! I'm hoping that we can start producing smaller and lighter batteries with more capacity of power storing, in very few years! XP
@xx3 did you not read what i wrote, cars powered by water gas!! why would you ever want a battery powered motor when h20 cars are already built! and why would anyone care about global warming when there is nothing you can ever do about it! its a fact of life, the planet has always had huge changes in temp, way before the days of fuels!
Well, It's hidrogen fuel cell cars, really! XP The only problem with those cars is that it has to have a huge tank with more than 3000 PSI of pressured hidrogen! Is built to be safe, Honda has crash tested it in extreme and very different ways, and it never exploded, the only problem is the space that's needed for the tank! XD I think Hidrogen Fuel Cell will be better used in big vehicles, like trucks and buses! But yeah, Hidrogen vehicles are a great inovation and idea! ;)
@snowyywwinters Yes, even $1600 u can buy a great e-bike. My busettii Big 50 Mile Electric Bike had it for 3 months and it is great. other e-bikes but they are way slower and wimpier than my Busettii. The BYI Super Lithium Batteries can get up to 60 miles on one charge and the top speed is about 27 MPH. Cuz BIKE paths and right shoulder of the road can go faster than cars across town. I want to try the new Busettii 86 mileVORTEX mountain bike soon ! drop me a line , Christine
@snowyywwinters The average pollution and carbon footprint created by 12 kilowatt hous of electricty is nearly equal to that of one gallon of gasoline. Estimates done by Busettii Electric Bikes show that 6 kilowatt hours electricty needed to charge a huge 72 volt 50 ah lithium battery. This bike will go 75 miles on each charge so that means its about one fourth of the carbon footpring of an equivolent gas powered motorcycle. A 75% cut in carbon and pollution out put sounds good
@lovenewtech the toyota prius batterys do so much damage to the planet by just having them made, that the cost of the co2 saving will never equal out! you got think of every part of the picture! battery power dont work like this! not that humans can change the world! it would be more of a shock if the world didnt change! green police are as dumb as people that belive in god!
@snowyywwinters The carbon impact of making a lithium powered bike won't be any greater than making a gas powered bike since the batteries are lithium ion. Li-ion is fully recyclable and does not make much pollution in the manufacturing process. They are also worth more money when they are worn out so a recycler will give you about $120 for a big 72volt 50 ah li-ion battery. A same size lead acid battery would only fetch about $20 or so.
yes, or electric vechcles that charge themself and don't need to plug in hybrid tech. or just smarter people to not travle more than 50 miles from home for stuff. you know when I typed that it sounds so redickourous I have to just stop.
I am sick of hearing the power grid is not capable of suporting electric cars, at xmas time we all plug in 1000s of wats of xmas lights and think nothing of it and battery chargers only draw 2to5 maybe 10amps witch is far less and not everybody will havethem.......
@SynkopeMusic At the end of the day, after that other end of the day, we might not need to burn just coal. And modern coal plants already produce power (kW) more efficiently than your car/motorcycle does. Tens of thousands of small powerplants rolling around on wheels somehow just don't really seem to be a match for the brute power of big ol black n rusty... That's what I was told... I'm just saying.. :)
@SynkopeMusic Or we could use wind power, geothermal, tidal, nuclear, or even the power from that large hydrogen bomb we call the sun; Just a few other options. But you may be certain whatever the source of power, electric propulsion will be the most efficient method available for the next 50 to 100 years.
Average autonomy of electric bikes is 100 miles. But at highway speed, the energy consumption sharply increases which reduces the autonomy. The distance at 30 mph and at 80 mph would be quite different ...
just get a wind mill on the roof of your house like Jay Leno has on his garage. when everythign is off the windmill pushes energy back into the system reversing the meter
thanx for your fast post! were are the batteries dumped when the finnished ! or wont take any more charge cycles ! and the tires used are the rubber ? NO well they may have some content but i think they will be more polytec made from what OIL! so the smoke coming off the back tire is what nice to breath? ps i dont realy care for electric bikes im for petrol bikes all the way the sound smell the vibes and of corse the power! i seen em on the iom tt last year. thanx again m8 keep it up
Hehe, good point. Battery disposal.. hmm. Do know much about that topic ;) I was somewhat dissapointed that the reports on the electric races on IoM TT were short and more of an pure promotional flick. Besides that... I'm affraid I'll get flamed if I admit that I adore the combustion bikes. But I have love enough for both of em I guess
@finney67 The point of an electric bike is not that it doesn't pollute, rather it pollutes less. Also it is cheaper to operate.
The most fun superiority of electric bikes is power output. Instant torque as soon as you hit the throttle, which gasoline fueled bikes normally have very little of. Also with more advanced batteries electric bikes would be more than capable of blowing away old gasoline bikes in terms of power.
no one has any interest in old gas bikes doo they? wee all kno about the torque from electric motors but it will be a long time b4 anyone makes anything like as powerfull as an uptodate liter bike engine 200bhp+ from a unit at less than 80 kg, & over all 160 kg
@finney67 Its already been done. Its called the Killacycle. It has 560bhp. It costs $0.10 to get down the drag strip. It does 0-60 in just under a second. And in a quarter mile it goes 168 mph in 7.89 seconds.
seen it! and super twins kill it at a fraction off the build cost have you ever done any drag runs? my blade does low tens all day long without the need to plug it in for ages and i can ride it home
On the second point: Radioactive disposal facilities have become increasingly effective over the past decades. The general public is under informed on the exact risks. We don't get it taught in school, and radioactive sounds like a bomb to most of us. The largest problems (in Europe) are transport of the used material because of political cross border issues and the constant battering of over active environmentalist.
On the first: Currently CO2 output would have, which is good step ahead right?
who cares about co2, global warming is a myth anyway, what are you going to burn when there is no more fuel? It is a finite resource no? there will always be electricity 1 form or 100. fossil fuel depends on 1 thing though whether it be oil, natural gas whatever and thats deposits in the earth... oh yeah and you cant have an electrical spill.
@finney67 Solar panels? wind turbine plants? There are other ways than burning something to get power out of it, or using chemicals. Once we make more power plants that produce power from the energies around us we can truly say we didnt burn anything or so to get that thing moving.
STOP BURNING THINGS TO GET POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greed is ruining our world -
- a sad fact that sadly was all too obviously illustrated at the Copenhagen COP15 fiasko.
Maybe the biggest debt in history of mankind is what drives US - the worlds worst polluter - to desperately try to cheat on their responsibility, turning to the self-humiliating blame-game versus china.
@chrishart234 A modern coal station generates the power more efficiently. I recently read that the effective CO2 output halves when the current power network would power the electric vehicles. Note: "current power network"
If everyone was driving electric vehicles the demand on the power grid would be so great, they would have to erect nuclear power plants to handle it....
@xamboozi You're right, the demand would be astonishing. BUT, in the meantime that electric vehicles grow up to maturity, a reshaping of the power grid should be done. Moreover, I doubt that people will buy electric all at once. We have time to see such problems coming ... Or to act before they come. Besides, the lack of lithium looks more like an unsolvable problem to me ... Just like other rare/heavy metals used for fuel cells.
@simusfr I think everything will scale, the power grid will upgrade as more electrics hit the streets. Also I think batteries are in their absolute infant stage. We really havent done any development on the battery since lead acid and alkaline came out. Lithium just became popular with laptops recently. I think a new type of battery will emerge very soon. It might not even be chemical...
@ chrishart234 : You should be ashamed. You are criticizing attempts to reduce emissions, without having a proper knowledge of true facts. A coal powerplant has the same effeiciency as an ICE engine. Besides, the production peak of petrol will be reached within ten years. Coal's production peak won't come before 150 years. Gas is the only fuel that is light and powerfull enough, considering a large production need, to be used in aeronautics for instance. We HAVE to save gas for specific uses.
SO GET YOUR FINGERS OUT OF YOUR ASS AND STOP DRIVING YOUR 7 MPG HUMMER AND THINK OF IT : WE CAN NOT WASTE PETROL ANYMORE. Moreover, the power grid is going to evolve. I'm afraid you are condamned to remain the same DUMBASS.
@xamboozi Obviously, power needs will increase. Not unless we buy electric vehices to trigger this evolution. About batteries, a123 are already astonishing. I doubt there is any other solution than chemicals, but for sure, it is only the beginning of batteries.
@simusfr There ARE solutions other than chemical batteries. They're called super capacitors. Today they don't hold nearly enough capacity, but soon they will hold 10x the capacity of a battery.
A supercapacitor will have over a 15 year lifespan, enough density for several hundred miles, and instant charging(facility provided).
Also a coal power plant can be replaced with a nuclear power plant or a fusion power plant(in the future). An ICE engine cannot be replaced with nuclear or fusion.
I know about super capacitors, but I'm afraid they can't be used as main storage device. Their auto-discharge is too important, and they're also very expensive (for now) for their capacity. Meanwhile, once they will be developped, they could replace batteries. By the way, supercapacitors are chemical as well as batteries ...
I wonder about that too. Probably still quite a lot, but then again. These batteries aren't really used world wide in each and every bike/car either. If these type of batteries get used in larger volumes the production prices will drop a bit. Will it pay off? Who knows.
navy subs are powered electricly by nuclear, if we could power a bike by coal or nuclear id go with nuclear, keeping in mind that 2 grams of uranium has about the same power of 500 pounds of coal.i.e. prb coal.
the world needs more people like you and less oil loving thugs that would throw sticks at you.great looking conversion.
have you seen the 59 lincoln neil young is converting to electric?instead of plugging it in to recharge it you plug it in to power your house.check it out@lincvolt.
electric vehicals can be so much more powerfull than dirty oil burning engines.dont think so go check out the guy with the old datsun he blows everyone away at race tracks so funny to see.
Can go way way faster with minimal tinkering but then range also gets way way gets shorter..
Range is the issues with electrics, electrics can already blow past any gas powered vehicle with the right motor and controller but the range will be short.
wow spike you are retarted! How do you charge batteries? You have to plug it in, and that electricity comes from a powerplant that burns coal! Natural gas is much more feasable.
ok first i refuse your right to spam me like the labotimized monkey you are. second did you just forget about solar and wind? who says you have to use the "man's" power grid? oh and natural gAS aint exActly green either. DO YOUR HOMEWORK N00B!
Do you know how tiny of percentage solar and wind power get used for energy. I said natural gas is more feasable as well as cleaner. But your so smart so I better not argue with you LMFAO
What? EV charge stations get their power exclusively from wind and solar. At least all the big charging service companies like Project Better Place do it that way.
sure you could argue that your bike will go 200m on a tank, you could argue you can do 150, but when it costs you $2.00 to go 75miles without hurting the enviornment argue with that! argue with the 0-60 in 2.6 sec!
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Death storm is right ---- torque curves for electric bikes are bell shaped while electric torque curves are like rotary engines in that they are flat line a google search will explain in detail what I'm suggesting
Si si cum suna.....parca e ceva combinatie intre motor cu reactie de avion si aspiratoru meu :D ....oricum super.....asteptam si o varianta de vo 120KW ;)
Where do you get the <2 year figure for payback on a windmill? The best ones I've researched commercially are at 15 years before it has paid for itself not including maintenance? You don't have enough facts to say who is right or wrong and are just another advocate it would seem.
Nuclear power plants run a given armature at an energy producing coefficient that exceeds the cost of production of the armature itself in a given frame of time. Windmills, even the best intentioned ones, do not do this. Copper costs in excess of $3 dollars a pound. how many pounds of copper go into a windmill that can compete with a nuclear reactor?
Amazed at how all these LUDITES criticize everything being developed to end this primitive fuel dependent era. While not once showing any creative invention of their own. Freaking frustrated couch potato cynics whining like unfed babies.
It can. Electric motors inherently have superior torque and thus acceleration. Look up the Wrightspeed prototype here on Youtube, it beats several high end sports cars. Electric has way superior acceleration and speed, it's the *range* where gas is better.
Shiiet, Sign me up!! i'll save some money and not loose any power? From my point of view a do not see how this R1 is ruined. Is it the lack of the gas engine sound, Oh sure that's worth 4 bucks a gallon; please.
well if those slobs in china ride them everyday rain or shine i dont see the problem with explosions, they could care less if its raining i seen them by the 1000s riding ion battery scooters there in every city/town , i m sure the manufacturers in china (there are 1000S of them)are working on better batterys , in china most cannot afford a car most ride scooters gas/LP/electric thats their largest domestic market, alot of sellers wanting customers
the only thing i wouldn't like about this bike is the safety of lithium batteries. lithium batteries blow up easily when exposed to moisture/humidity, or if they get hot, since lithium, like sodium, potassium, and other alkali earth metals react violently to moisture. it would be nice if they made aluminum air fuel cells (which have a far greater energy density than li ion and still are light) with a longer shelf life and cheap and easy to recycle the aluminum/reactants so aluminum doesnt go up.
its the lithium that blows due to its reactivity (thats why it has to be stored in oil). yes, lithium iron phosphate batteries are more stable, but they dont store as much energy as the traditional lithium batteries, are a little heavier, and can still blow if discharged too rapidly. btw, where in this video was this type of lithium battery mentioned?
Yeah, as opposed to the cars and motorcycles we have now that have little gasoline bombs strapped onto them. People, the cars you are riding around in now are filled full of explosives - the stuff the DOD builds FAE bombs out of. No way lithium is nearly as volatile. That said, compressed air in CF spun bottles is much cleaner and lighter.
i am a beliver in electric bikes the lit-ion battery is good for about a 1000 charges, nice to see someone doing this with a bike but i warn you there are over 1000 makers of e- bikes in china they are not sitting on there hands, also it costs about .25usd to charge these e- scooters thats alot cheaper /cleaner source of power than gas, you get gas from only 1 place OIL electricity can be produced by oil/coal/ solar/ wind/ waves/hydro thats alot more choices, coal plants now have scrubbers( EPA)
i rode electric scooters in china one ran a bonifide 70 mph speed was told it was by far not the fastest production e- bike in china( 140kph) also some chinese students hot rod those e-scooters claiming 175kph /115mph speeds, not sure of that ,but the e-max will run 140kph over 92 mph right off the showroom floor in china 7000watt motor lit-ion battery good for 90-120 kilometers per charge at 50-70 kph e-scooters in china range in price from 300-1000usd chinese abuse these things their sturdy
Wow that sounds like a really good deal. can you charge them off conventional mains plugs? Also I am in the U.K do you consider it economical for me to purchase one and have it shipped over as $1000-$2000 dollars for a machine of that complexity seems very worth while! Please message back as I am VERY interested in the idea but speak no chinese whatsoever :(
Sounded kinda like a drill. What's the life expectancy of one of those lithium batteries anyway? I suspect that would be the most serious maintainance cost.
yes, power plants are bad, but if we all start demanding more electricity for our vehicles and ppl stop being stupid, we can develop better ways to produce electricity, so it takes it dumbass bush to stop giving money to war and give money to science...but its asking too much from a stupid redneck
Actually, the cost of producing ALL of the electricity used in the USA is almost identical to what we have spent in Iraq. It's almost stupid how close the numbers are - and that was based on $1.50 a nameplate watt. JULE is now building windfarms for a buck a watt, so it makes all the money we blew on coal generation (lining Cheney's crony's pockets while raping the planet) especially sickening.
Well zero emission is pretty cool, but only if powerplants produce clean energy as well. As for the performance, electricity has some huge advantages in performance over combustion engines except for the fact that at such output levels they don't maintain their perfomance nearly as long as chemical combustion engines do.
The power is produced far more efficiently by giant power plants than by tiny internal-combustion engines. There is some transmission loss, but the fuel expended to haul gasoline to a station could also be called transmission loss. :)
Well, something went wrong and ate my comment, so sorry if this gets posted twice.
Large powerplants are more efficient than small internal-combustion engines. Also, depending on how strict emissions-control legislation is in your area (of course it's strict in CA), unburned hydrocarbon emissions can be a big issue from small engines, too, among many, many pollutants small engines produce in far greater concentrations than electric generation stations do.
The most efficient and cheapest way to make electricity is using large, off-shore wind-turbines. Yes, it's cheaper than coal, nuclear, natural gas and new hydro-electric. Spain can now generate more power from wind on a good day than either coal or nuclear and lithium makes that cheap wind power mobile. Coal is much dirtier than any internal combustion engine, gas or diesel.
Since wind burns nothing, the only energy cost is for apparatus. Coal, & gas can never get to break-even because they don't produce as much energy as they consume - ignoring apparatus, transport, and transmission of electrical power. Nuclear has huge apparatus costs and waste that must be guarded for 500,000 years. The fact that wind can get to break-even at all shows it's massive superiority as an energy source.
It's very sad that Nuclear Fusion technology isn't being investigated with as much vigor as some of these other technologies.
There are undoubtedly huge equipment costs involved but there is a much lower waste downside than with fission.
Plus the fuel source is, for all intents and purposes, limitless.
In it's current state, Fusion is not viable... But if we had spent that $1 trillion+ on this problem instead of a war that doesn't solve the energy crisis anyway, who knows where we'd be.
The best place for wind power is off-shore. The wind resource is better there, it's in no one's backyard, and there are no right-of-way issues with the necessary transmission cables. If you want nuclear on the other hand, put it in your backyard and it will still kill everything in 500 radial miles when it blows up. Only 25 Chernobyls would destroy every breadbasket on Earth. Not on my planet!
Nuclear isn't even close to being the biggest bang for the buck. First it costs a fortune to build a plant. 2nd, the operational life-span of that plant is very uncertain - 1 mistake and it's a huge chunk of toxic waste. 3rd, take a drive thru NM and you'll find mountains of uranium mine tailing 10 miles long and 2,000 ft deep all dug with fossil fuels that now pollute the air and water. Containment building withstand four PSI - and won't solve the waste issue.Nuclear is hugely expensive.
Wrong again. The payback period for a good off-shore wind turbine is < 2 yrs - that's not even close to 15 years. For peak generation rates - about $0.40/kwh, the payback period is less than a single year. Do the math. The TOTAL of ALL costs is a dollar a watt all-in.
For a 5mw unit that's a $5 million cost. At $.40 kwh * 8,760 hrs/yr it generates $17.5 million a year in power. At $.10 kwh $4.3 million/yr. Offshore has 80% availability, so worst-case $3.5 million/yr.
Why do you think there is a 18 month backlog for turbines? It's because anyone with a brain and two nickels to rub together is desperately trying to get theirs in production. Wind can, and most likely will, displace all other forms of electrical generation. Denmark's initial goal was to produce 20% from wind. The cost is now falling so fast they are targeting 80% from wind. This bullshit Russia just pulled will accelerated others in that direction with a urgency nearing desperation.
I would pay 9K for this than pay 9K for some oil hog that IMO is going to cost you double on the petrol and insurance FFS.
AlienTechProductions 9 months ago
burning rubber isnt cool without the roar of a gasoline motor :(
mynuffinfutsitch 10 months ago
wow...welcome to the next age...yes, the electric age!!!
Bikandee 10 months ago
can anyone help me convert my cbr600rr to electric?
vasgeorge 1 year ago
This is the worst idea ever!!! Bikes don't even waste that much gas to begin with. First u ruin cars, and now you're going after bikes with these stupid batteries. There is no point in even arguing. It was disscrasefull to see that r1 ruined like that. It was ugly too. Gas is way better and you know it.
EIKONOMI 1 year ago
@EIKONOMI Then what happens when the Earth runs out of oil? LOL that R1 ain't going to be much use to you if it don't run. Why not save the Gas and preserve those awesome machines, so it will last another 100 years instead of wasting it for some dumb ass redneck like you to ride around everyday?
14omega28ok 2 months ago
Convert it to Li-Po now....
tucsondog 1 year ago
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Yes, even $1600 u can buy a great e-bike. My busettii Big 50 Mile Electric Bike had it for 3 months and it is great. other e-bikes but they are way slower and wimpier than my Busettii. The BYI Super Lithium Batteries can get up to 60 miles on one charge and the top speed is about 27 MPH. Cuz of BIKE paths and right shoulder of the road can go faster than cars across town. I want to try the new Busettii 86 mileVORTEX mountain bike soon ! drop me a line , Christine
lovenewtech 1 year ago
just an idea...im no expert infact im pretty stupid so hear me out......where as a normal bike uses a fan to reduce the heat ......could you not use the fan as a dynamo....to recharge the battery's whilst its running......that would reduce the charge time and eventually mean that you could practically have a billion dollar invention....ie an everlasting battery..........oh by the way if it works and you become very rich .....remember me wont you ....i could use a few pounds :)
uktaz28 1 year ago
@uktaz28 The average pollution and carbon footprint created by 12 kilowatt hous of electricty is nearly equal to that of one gallon of gasoline. Estimates done by Busettii Electric Bikes show that 6 kilowatt hours electricty needed to charge a huge 72 volt 50 ah lithium battery. This bike will go 75 miles on each charge so that means its about one fourth of the carbon footpring of an equivolent gas powered motorcycle. A 75% cut in carbon and pollution out put sounds good to me !
lovenewtech 1 year ago
Oh, and Hidrogen cars are moved by electric engines, the energy that feeds this electric engine results from the transformation of Hidrogen into water by a type of "battery" that is inked to the Hidrogen tank! XD
xx3 1 year ago
its like talking to a brick wall
snowyywwinters 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters
It's more like talking to someone who is well informed. I know you like Hydrogen, but do you know that hydrogen is produced by heating steam and natural gas to high temperatures? The Carbon in the natural gas combines with the oxygen in the water to make carbon dioxide and hydrogen. Also the Hydrogen Honda that everyone points to as the future because batteries are too expensive... The fuel cell inside has over a million dollars worth of metal inside.
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i like it. I like Running On Lithium much better. Fuunn
filmrancher 1 year ago
2:19 ALMOST LOST IT LOL
ravingking 1 year ago
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wow 75miles:O thats not eco, charging the thing prob makes more co2 that gas ever would! maybe it be eco if you had your own windmill to charge it:P as always saying a electric motors are a dumb idea, and will never work! we need new fuel not new motors!
snowyywwinters 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters The first combution vehicles didn't get nearly that far or at those speeds mr. snowyywinters. Now if we had you to support them, where would your precious combustion engine be? :) just kiddin
If you would read some of the responses below then you would learn that where everybody is betting on is to reduce the output to 50% or so by going electric. If some efficient renewable source could be used this would drop further. Something like the windmill you're sugesting.
tomsta1488 1 year ago 3
@tomsta1488 snowyywwinters is right elctric motors are dumb. there dangoures cause u cant here them and never now when there turned on or off :P
CRmxer85 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters That isn't so. Electric motors are more efficient than IC's - where they fall over is in the batteries which can't hold much more energy than a gallon of petrol (if you're lucky), so the range is pretty pitiful and they are insanely expensive. Still, that could change, although a large part of the problem is lack of imagination on the part of the EV industry as well as insane battery prices.
badnewswade 1 year ago
@badnewswade other motors will only be massproduced when the oil runs out. its all about money, like the green taxes, when global warming has nothing to do with cars. honda made some hydro cars which is h20 gas, and it works the same as petrol, and casue NO co2! electric motors will only ever be a hobbie for some people! they have no use in the real world! but hydrogen does! honda needs to step up and stop being bullied by the oil companys! everything come down to money!!
snowyywwinters 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters
Don't say that, because if you're taking into account the CO2 produced to charge electric engines, than you should do the same to fuel engines, and believe me the CO2 produced to feed fuel engines is far superior! XD The greatest problem in electric vehicles is the storage of power, really! I'm hoping that we can start producing smaller and lighter batteries with more capacity of power storing, in very few years! XP
xx3 1 year ago
@xx3 did you not read what i wrote, cars powered by water gas!! why would you ever want a battery powered motor when h20 cars are already built! and why would anyone care about global warming when there is nothing you can ever do about it! its a fact of life, the planet has always had huge changes in temp, way before the days of fuels!
snowyywwinters 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters
Well, It's hidrogen fuel cell cars, really! XP The only problem with those cars is that it has to have a huge tank with more than 3000 PSI of pressured hidrogen! Is built to be safe, Honda has crash tested it in extreme and very different ways, and it never exploded, the only problem is the space that's needed for the tank! XD I think Hidrogen Fuel Cell will be better used in big vehicles, like trucks and buses! But yeah, Hidrogen vehicles are a great inovation and idea! ;)
xx3 1 year ago
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@snowyywwinters Yes, even $1600 u can buy a great e-bike. My busettii Big 50 Mile Electric Bike had it for 3 months and it is great. other e-bikes but they are way slower and wimpier than my Busettii. The BYI Super Lithium Batteries can get up to 60 miles on one charge and the top speed is about 27 MPH. Cuz BIKE paths and right shoulder of the road can go faster than cars across town. I want to try the new Busettii 86 mileVORTEX mountain bike soon ! drop me a line , Christine
lovenewtech 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters The average pollution and carbon footprint created by 12 kilowatt hous of electricty is nearly equal to that of one gallon of gasoline. Estimates done by Busettii Electric Bikes show that 6 kilowatt hours electricty needed to charge a huge 72 volt 50 ah lithium battery. This bike will go 75 miles on each charge so that means its about one fourth of the carbon footpring of an equivolent gas powered motorcycle. A 75% cut in carbon and pollution out put sounds good
lovenewtech 1 year ago
@lovenewtech the toyota prius batterys do so much damage to the planet by just having them made, that the cost of the co2 saving will never equal out! you got think of every part of the picture! battery power dont work like this! not that humans can change the world! it would be more of a shock if the world didnt change! green police are as dumb as people that belive in god!
snowyywwinters 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters The carbon impact of making a lithium powered bike won't be any greater than making a gas powered bike since the batteries are lithium ion. Li-ion is fully recyclable and does not make much pollution in the manufacturing process. They are also worth more money when they are worn out so a recycler will give you about $120 for a big 72volt 50 ah li-ion battery. A same size lead acid battery would only fetch about $20 or so.
doubletriplerainbow 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters Go hide in the 1980's with your 8-track tapes.
MrCharlesWithers 1 year ago
@snowyywwinters OMG U RIGHT,WE NEED NEW FUEL,BUT AM STILL IN LOVE WITH PETROL. XD
neshakori 1 year ago
burn rubber ? what a dick
sweetgyy 1 year ago
yeah but you dont get that great engine sound!
QSideProductions 1 year ago
i just put wheels on my table saw. it's faster than this bike. i just need a longer cord.
flyingfishsurf 1 year ago
yes, or electric vechcles that charge themself and don't need to plug in hybrid tech. or just smarter people to not travle more than 50 miles from home for stuff. you know when I typed that it sounds so redickourous I have to just stop.
MrJetjoe 1 year ago
I am sick of hearing the power grid is not capable of suporting electric cars, at xmas time we all plug in 1000s of wats of xmas lights and think nothing of it and battery chargers only draw 2to5 maybe 10amps witch is far less and not everybody will havethem.......
MrJetjoe 1 year ago 2
@MrJetjoe It will probably be more of an infrastructure thing. Wether everybody can hook up their vehicles wherever and whenever they like.
tomsta1488 1 year ago
@tomsta1488 At the end of the day, we have to burn coal to produce electricity - Electric vehicles aren't the way forward.
SynkopeMusic 11 months ago
@SynkopeMusic At the end of the day, after that other end of the day, we might not need to burn just coal. And modern coal plants already produce power (kW) more efficiently than your car/motorcycle does. Tens of thousands of small powerplants rolling around on wheels somehow just don't really seem to be a match for the brute power of big ol black n rusty... That's what I was told... I'm just saying.. :)
tomsta1488 11 months ago 2
@SynkopeMusic Or we could use wind power, geothermal, tidal, nuclear, or even the power from that large hydrogen bomb we call the sun; Just a few other options. But you may be certain whatever the source of power, electric propulsion will be the most efficient method available for the next 50 to 100 years.
joelski 5 months ago
It's extreme loud compared to my E-Max 90S electric scooter. Wheel hub engines direct drive is much more silent.
pegefounder 1 year ago
try walking ,its been around for awhile and works pretty good.
justaman6972 2 years ago
how far would it travel at highway speeds up to 70mph or higher?
ABPOFTW86753 2 years ago
Average autonomy of electric bikes is 100 miles. But at highway speed, the energy consumption sharply increases which reduces the autonomy. The distance at 30 mph and at 80 mph would be quite different ...
simusfr 2 years ago
just get a wind mill on the roof of your house like Jay Leno has on his garage. when everythign is off the windmill pushes energy back into the system reversing the meter
joekool4 2 years ago
thanx for your fast post! were are the batteries dumped when the finnished ! or wont take any more charge cycles ! and the tires used are the rubber ? NO well they may have some content but i think they will be more polytec made from what OIL! so the smoke coming off the back tire is what nice to breath? ps i dont realy care for electric bikes im for petrol bikes all the way the sound smell the vibes and of corse the power! i seen em on the iom tt last year. thanx again m8 keep it up
finney67 2 years ago
Hehe, good point. Battery disposal.. hmm. Do know much about that topic ;) I was somewhat dissapointed that the reports on the electric races on IoM TT were short and more of an pure promotional flick. Besides that... I'm affraid I'll get flamed if I admit that I adore the combustion bikes. But I have love enough for both of em I guess
tomsta1488 2 years ago
@finney67 The point of an electric bike is not that it doesn't pollute, rather it pollutes less. Also it is cheaper to operate.
The most fun superiority of electric bikes is power output. Instant torque as soon as you hit the throttle, which gasoline fueled bikes normally have very little of. Also with more advanced batteries electric bikes would be more than capable of blowing away old gasoline bikes in terms of power.
xamboozi 2 years ago
no one has any interest in old gas bikes doo they? wee all kno about the torque from electric motors but it will be a long time b4 anyone makes anything like as powerfull as an uptodate liter bike engine 200bhp+ from a unit at less than 80 kg, & over all 160 kg
finney67 2 years ago
@finney67 Its already been done. Its called the Killacycle. It has 560bhp. It costs $0.10 to get down the drag strip. It does 0-60 in just under a second. And in a quarter mile it goes 168 mph in 7.89 seconds.
xamboozi 2 years ago
seen it! and super twins kill it at a fraction off the build cost have you ever done any drag runs? my blade does low tens all day long without the need to plug it in for ages and i can ride it home
finney67 2 years ago
How much is race fuel?
Especially if your driving home on it?
xamboozi 2 years ago
Ha hah ha clean race fuel is dear but i run unleaded from the pump 1 pound per litre, some times maybee use some octane boost?
finney67 2 years ago
@finney67 Also liter bikes are not up to date. The gasoline engine hasn't changed besides fuel injection, in over 200 years.
xamboozi 2 years ago
you forgot to tell us how much fossil fuel was burnt to charge it every 70 miles?
if no fosil fuel was burnt were does the radio active crap go? and at what cost
finney67 2 years ago
On the second point: Radioactive disposal facilities have become increasingly effective over the past decades. The general public is under informed on the exact risks. We don't get it taught in school, and radioactive sounds like a bomb to most of us. The largest problems (in Europe) are transport of the used material because of political cross border issues and the constant battering of over active environmentalist.
On the first: Currently CO2 output would have, which is good step ahead right?
tomsta1488 2 years ago
who cares about co2, global warming is a myth anyway, what are you going to burn when there is no more fuel? It is a finite resource no? there will always be electricity 1 form or 100. fossil fuel depends on 1 thing though whether it be oil, natural gas whatever and thats deposits in the earth... oh yeah and you cant have an electrical spill.
nightsoul2003 1 year ago 2
@finney67 Solar panels? wind turbine plants? There are other ways than burning something to get power out of it, or using chemicals. Once we make more power plants that produce power from the energies around us we can truly say we didnt burn anything or so to get that thing moving.
NoiteraD 1 year ago
Cant help thinkin it looks heavy as fuck. Good idea tho, donno if its the way forward but its definitely an option
lateboy4 2 years ago
We HAVE to
STOP BURNING THINGS TO GET POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greed is ruining our world -
- a sad fact that sadly was all too obviously illustrated at the Copenhagen COP15 fiasko.
Maybe the biggest debt in history of mankind is what drives US - the worlds worst polluter - to desperately try to cheat on their responsibility, turning to the self-humiliating blame-game versus china.
TomtenT 2 years ago 2
yer pretty sick!but where does the power come from?o wait coal burning power station try again!
chrishart234 2 years ago
@chrishart234 A modern coal station generates the power more efficiently. I recently read that the effective CO2 output halves when the current power network would power the electric vehicles. Note: "current power network"
tomsta1488 2 years ago
If everyone was driving electric vehicles the demand on the power grid would be so great, they would have to erect nuclear power plants to handle it....
xamboozi 2 years ago
@xamboozi You're right, the demand would be astonishing. BUT, in the meantime that electric vehicles grow up to maturity, a reshaping of the power grid should be done. Moreover, I doubt that people will buy electric all at once. We have time to see such problems coming ... Or to act before they come. Besides, the lack of lithium looks more like an unsolvable problem to me ... Just like other rare/heavy metals used for fuel cells.
simusfr 2 years ago
@simusfr I think everything will scale, the power grid will upgrade as more electrics hit the streets. Also I think batteries are in their absolute infant stage. We really havent done any development on the battery since lead acid and alkaline came out. Lithium just became popular with laptops recently. I think a new type of battery will emerge very soon. It might not even be chemical...
xamboozi 2 years ago
@ chrishart234 : You should be ashamed. You are criticizing attempts to reduce emissions, without having a proper knowledge of true facts. A coal powerplant has the same effeiciency as an ICE engine. Besides, the production peak of petrol will be reached within ten years. Coal's production peak won't come before 150 years. Gas is the only fuel that is light and powerfull enough, considering a large production need, to be used in aeronautics for instance. We HAVE to save gas for specific uses.
simusfr 2 years ago
SO GET YOUR FINGERS OUT OF YOUR ASS AND STOP DRIVING YOUR 7 MPG HUMMER AND THINK OF IT : WE CAN NOT WASTE PETROL ANYMORE. Moreover, the power grid is going to evolve. I'm afraid you are condamned to remain the same DUMBASS.
@xamboozi Obviously, power needs will increase. Not unless we buy electric vehices to trigger this evolution. About batteries, a123 are already astonishing. I doubt there is any other solution than chemicals, but for sure, it is only the beginning of batteries.
simusfr 2 years ago
@simusfr There ARE solutions other than chemical batteries. They're called super capacitors. Today they don't hold nearly enough capacity, but soon they will hold 10x the capacity of a battery.
A supercapacitor will have over a 15 year lifespan, enough density for several hundred miles, and instant charging(facility provided).
Also a coal power plant can be replaced with a nuclear power plant or a fusion power plant(in the future). An ICE engine cannot be replaced with nuclear or fusion.
xamboozi 2 years ago
I know about super capacitors, but I'm afraid they can't be used as main storage device. Their auto-discharge is too important, and they're also very expensive (for now) for their capacity. Meanwhile, once they will be developped, they could replace batteries. By the way, supercapacitors are chemical as well as batteries ...
simusfr 2 years ago
he said 209 mph ?
hdiablop 2 years ago
are those the prismatic cells from A123 systems?
videocruzer 2 years ago
interesting how much did the 68 batteries cost together and each?
menahunie007 2 years ago
I wonder about that too. Probably still quite a lot, but then again. These batteries aren't really used world wide in each and every bike/car either. If these type of batteries get used in larger volumes the production prices will drop a bit. Will it pay off? Who knows.
tomsta1488 2 years ago
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wow 100 mph. my gsxr only does that, in second gear. plus electric is so gay sounding
coalandnuclear 2 years ago
you know what would be awesome? A coal and nuclear powered bike. I bet that would sound less gay and go 200 mph in neutral!
ThirdEyeLight 2 years ago
navy subs are powered electricly by nuclear, if we could power a bike by coal or nuclear id go with nuclear, keeping in mind that 2 grams of uranium has about the same power of 500 pounds of coal.i.e. prb coal.
coalandnuclear 2 years ago
I was just messing with you. I am uninterested in the power conversion from uranium to coal.
ThirdEyeLight 2 years ago
@ThirdEyeLight As long as you drive a safe 30 Mph ;)
tomsta1488 2 years ago
@ThirdEyeLight hahaha a nuclear power bike would be so awesome!
DORUKOZKAN 1 year ago
make the sproket smaller in the back it will accelerate really fucking fast cause it has the torque for that and it will have a better top speed
doj11 2 years ago
there's is no way that thing is going to beat a real r1, r6 or any bike that 's gas powerd, plant more trees
yamabushisama 2 years ago
Well now, I wouldn't say "any bike that's gas powered". :)
I'm sure the Honda Rebel is gas powered and probably doesn't have 100 mph top speed, more like 70 mph.
HunterXray 2 years ago
I do not beleave this motorcycle was designed to 'beat' anything from an power / acceleration kind of perspective.
tomsta1488 2 years ago
can you use those batteries in an electric car, and what kind of batteries are those?
000eMan000 2 years ago
Great job!
rokas666 2 years ago
Awesome bike. Looks like it could use a planetary to take the chain assembly ratio down a bit. A belt drive would top it off real nice. Great job.
canaanav 2 years ago
do you still have the 6 speed tansmission? if not why not?
QSideProductions 2 years ago
Power loss and the electric engine will rev like hell at near constant torque anyway. So no need for gears if you don't leave the powerband ;)
tomsta1488 2 years ago
The engine is very loud. Wheel hub engines are much more quiet. I mean direct weheel hub engines, not like the Vectrix, which is also too loud
robertwilden 2 years ago
Wheelhub motors are much more quiet but they increase unsprung weight which will affect handling.
xamboozi 2 years ago
the world needs more people like you and less oil loving thugs that would throw sticks at you.great looking conversion.
have you seen the 59 lincoln neil young is converting to electric?instead of plugging it in to recharge it you plug it in to power your house.check it out@lincvolt.
electric vehicals can be so much more powerfull than dirty oil burning engines.dont think so go check out the guy with the old datsun he blows everyone away at race tracks so funny to see.
ez3usx2 2 years ago 2
very cool bike. But one thing. hate sound of the chain.
Robbany 2 years ago
Hope they put eTec fast charger plugs on em
marsbeyond 2 years ago
The duct tape on the batteries at 1:31 is too much! LOL
goney3 2 years ago
That's really impressive. 100mph is awesome!
MrPizzaman09 2 years ago 5
Can go way way faster with minimal tinkering but then range also gets way way gets shorter..
Range is the issues with electrics, electrics can already blow past any gas powered vehicle with the right motor and controller but the range will be short.
ffsallnamestaken 2 years ago 2
@MrPizzaman09 i think he said "200 miles an hour".
vasgeorge 1 year ago
wow spike you are retarted! How do you charge batteries? You have to plug it in, and that electricity comes from a powerplant that burns coal! Natural gas is much more feasable.
iownbitcheshoe 2 years ago
ok first i refuse your right to spam me like the labotimized monkey you are. second did you just forget about solar and wind? who says you have to use the "man's" power grid? oh and natural gAS aint exActly green either. DO YOUR HOMEWORK N00B!
SpikeThatGas 2 years ago
Do you know how tiny of percentage solar and wind power get used for energy. I said natural gas is more feasable as well as cleaner. But your so smart so I better not argue with you LMFAO
iownbitcheshoe 2 years ago
What? EV charge stations get their power exclusively from wind and solar. At least all the big charging service companies like Project Better Place do it that way.
Zamboro 2 years ago
HOW MUCH
HydroSonic88 2 years ago
sure you could argue that your bike will go 200m on a tank, you could argue you can do 150, but when it costs you $2.00 to go 75miles without hurting the enviornment argue with that! argue with the 0-60 in 2.6 sec!
SpikeThatGas 2 years ago
that is f*cking sick!!!!1 good shit.
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carriebiotubbuler 2 years ago
the good thing about electric- there's not torque lag at full throttle. It's instant torque.
UberWagen 2 years ago
pretty damn slow. My real 02 R1 easily does 180
iownbitcheshoe 2 years ago
speed doesn't matter on this thing, can you imagine the massive amount of torque??? sure, it only goes like 100Mph, but it get's there FAST
Deathstorm3 2 years ago 5
Death storm is right ---- torque curves for electric bikes are bell shaped while electric torque curves are like rotary engines in that they are flat line a google search will explain in detail what I'm suggesting
Sandiegoenterprise 2 years ago
Yeah, because you ride around town doing 180 every day. Dumbshit.
200609 2 years ago
We call them highways, and yes I go well over 100 mph on a daily basis. WHATS THE WHOLE POINT OF A SPORTBIKE??? SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iownbitcheshoe 2 years ago
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hahahahaa. I hope you fall off your bike and die
ferraridriver16 2 years ago
hell ya
proverb311031 3 years ago
I want one!
badnewswade 3 years ago
cheap conversion
doest use belt drive
rainstormaeroponics 3 years ago
Love it! I want to make an electric motorcycle now.
BBD40 3 years ago
That small front sprocket is gonna eat chains......
ginganz13 3 years ago
i'm sure this bike can reach way more than 100mph if they made the gear ratios a bit smaller.
TEGGY56 3 years ago 2
ill take one!
kwhooligan 3 years ago
runnin from the cops has never been so quieter :))
end of line.
halfblackmaniac 3 years ago 5
75 miles is not enough.I travel 125 miles a day.350 miles per recharge sounds good to me ,but will it be possible?
redsoil5 3 years ago 2
Some day yes!
ccoasterdesigner 3 years ago 2
It's possible if you towed a motorcycle trailer filled with batteries for your 2nd stage of energy.
jetmanrun 3 years ago
how much ar they
jackbassbf3 3 years ago
Tare asta cu burn rubber not gasoline :)
Si si cum suna.....parca e ceva combinatie intre motor cu reactie de avion si aspiratoru meu :D ....oricum super.....asteptam si o varianta de vo 120KW ;)
popra007 3 years ago
Solidpoint.
Breeder reactors reuse and burn up nuclear waste. The French have done this for years.
President Carter, a Democrat, killed this program long ago so we now just store the waste rather than use it. Does this make Jimmy Carter a dope?
freightdog777 3 years ago
Solidpoint.
Where do you get the <2 year figure for payback on a windmill? The best ones I've researched commercially are at 15 years before it has paid for itself not including maintenance? You don't have enough facts to say who is right or wrong and are just another advocate it would seem.
freightdog777 3 years ago
Nonsense Solidpoint.
Do you have an engineering degree?
Nuclear power plants run a given armature at an energy producing coefficient that exceeds the cost of production of the armature itself in a given frame of time. Windmills, even the best intentioned ones, do not do this. Copper costs in excess of $3 dollars a pound. how many pounds of copper go into a windmill that can compete with a nuclear reactor?
freightdog777 3 years ago
Amazed at how all these LUDITES criticize everything being developed to end this primitive fuel dependent era. While not once showing any creative invention of their own. Freaking frustrated couch potato cynics whining like unfed babies.
asarapi 3 years ago
I'll buy one as soon as it can match or out-accelerate the gas version.
Devast8ion 3 years ago
It can. Electric motors inherently have superior torque and thus acceleration. Look up the Wrightspeed prototype here on Youtube, it beats several high end sports cars. Electric has way superior acceleration and speed, it's the *range* where gas is better.
Zamboro 3 years ago
Shiiet, Sign me up!! i'll save some money and not loose any power? From my point of view a do not see how this R1 is ruined. Is it the lack of the gas engine sound, Oh sure that's worth 4 bucks a gallon; please.
Pinochain 3 years ago
Well a big loss is the max speed of 100mph. Fuel-powered litre bikes can do double that and that draws a lot of buyers.
Maximum distance of 75 miles is also a hindrance. That can certainly get you places, but you can go a lot further on a tank of gas.
tanbrolo 3 years ago
So that's ONE way to ruin a R1...
Shark00n1337 3 years ago
You missed the point, I think.
lilbrudder32 3 years ago
If the point was that they can make an electric powered motorcycle, do it on a scooter...
Shark00n1337 3 years ago
Why? I wouldn't want to ride a scooter as powerful as Killacycle. Search for Killacycle. Should that be a scooter? It sure scoots!
lilbrudder32 3 years ago 2
looser....
oross99 3 years ago
well if those slobs in china ride them everyday rain or shine i dont see the problem with explosions, they could care less if its raining i seen them by the 1000s riding ion battery scooters there in every city/town , i m sure the manufacturers in china (there are 1000S of them)are working on better batterys , in china most cannot afford a car most ride scooters gas/LP/electric thats their largest domestic market, alot of sellers wanting customers
knightspy 3 years ago
the only thing i wouldn't like about this bike is the safety of lithium batteries. lithium batteries blow up easily when exposed to moisture/humidity, or if they get hot, since lithium, like sodium, potassium, and other alkali earth metals react violently to moisture. it would be nice if they made aluminum air fuel cells (which have a far greater energy density than li ion and still are light) with a longer shelf life and cheap and easy to recycle the aluminum/reactants so aluminum doesnt go up.
thebestofall007 3 years ago
Except they are using lithium iron phosphate batteries which don't blow. AT least watch the video before commenting.
coolfilmaker 3 years ago
its the lithium that blows due to its reactivity (thats why it has to be stored in oil). yes, lithium iron phosphate batteries are more stable, but they dont store as much energy as the traditional lithium batteries, are a little heavier, and can still blow if discharged too rapidly. btw, where in this video was this type of lithium battery mentioned?
thebestofall007 3 years ago
Yeah, as opposed to the cars and motorcycles we have now that have little gasoline bombs strapped onto them. People, the cars you are riding around in now are filled full of explosives - the stuff the DOD builds FAE bombs out of. No way lithium is nearly as volatile. That said, compressed air in CF spun bottles is much cleaner and lighter.
solidpoint 3 years ago
i am a beliver in electric bikes the lit-ion battery is good for about a 1000 charges, nice to see someone doing this with a bike but i warn you there are over 1000 makers of e- bikes in china they are not sitting on there hands, also it costs about .25usd to charge these e- scooters thats alot cheaper /cleaner source of power than gas, you get gas from only 1 place OIL electricity can be produced by oil/coal/ solar/ wind/ waves/hydro thats alot more choices, coal plants now have scrubbers( EPA)
knightspy 3 years ago
i rode electric scooters in china one ran a bonifide 70 mph speed was told it was by far not the fastest production e- bike in china( 140kph) also some chinese students hot rod those e-scooters claiming 175kph /115mph speeds, not sure of that ,but the e-max will run 140kph over 92 mph right off the showroom floor in china 7000watt motor lit-ion battery good for 90-120 kilometers per charge at 50-70 kph e-scooters in china range in price from 300-1000usd chinese abuse these things their sturdy
knightspy 3 years ago
Wow that sounds like a really good deal. can you charge them off conventional mains plugs? Also I am in the U.K do you consider it economical for me to purchase one and have it shipped over as $1000-$2000 dollars for a machine of that complexity seems very worth while! Please message back as I am VERY interested in the idea but speak no chinese whatsoever :(
Nuketime201 3 years ago
Sounded kinda like a drill. What's the life expectancy of one of those lithium batteries anyway? I suspect that would be the most serious maintainance cost.
wrappedhands 3 years ago
Pretty much the only maintenance cost. Gasoline engines require a lot of maintenance, fluids, wires, parts, tune-ups.
I would think the electric motor would simply need a new set of brushes at 200,000 miles, and a new battery pack at 100,000.
monkeyman1140 3 years ago 2
yes, power plants are bad, but if we all start demanding more electricity for our vehicles and ppl stop being stupid, we can develop better ways to produce electricity, so it takes it dumbass bush to stop giving money to war and give money to science...but its asking too much from a stupid redneck
sickmefistofeles666 3 years ago 2
You're a Bush bashing bed wetter..saaaad...
freightdog777 3 years ago
Actually, the cost of producing ALL of the electricity used in the USA is almost identical to what we have spent in Iraq. It's almost stupid how close the numbers are - and that was based on $1.50 a nameplate watt. JULE is now building windfarms for a buck a watt, so it makes all the money we blew on coal generation (lining Cheney's crony's pockets while raping the planet) especially sickening.
solidpoint 3 years ago
Oops... make that JUHL.
solidpoint 3 years ago
Well zero emission is pretty cool, but only if powerplants produce clean energy as well. As for the performance, electricity has some huge advantages in performance over combustion engines except for the fact that at such output levels they don't maintain their perfomance nearly as long as chemical combustion engines do.
tomsta1488 4 years ago
The power is produced far more efficiently by giant power plants than by tiny internal-combustion engines. There is some transmission loss, but the fuel expended to haul gasoline to a station could also be called transmission loss. :)
DrakkenfyreX 4 years ago 2
Well, something went wrong and ate my comment, so sorry if this gets posted twice.
Large powerplants are more efficient than small internal-combustion engines. Also, depending on how strict emissions-control legislation is in your area (of course it's strict in CA), unburned hydrocarbon emissions can be a big issue from small engines, too, among many, many pollutants small engines produce in far greater concentrations than electric generation stations do.
DrakkenfyreX 4 years ago 2
The most efficient and cheapest way to make electricity is using large, off-shore wind-turbines. Yes, it's cheaper than coal, nuclear, natural gas and new hydro-electric. Spain can now generate more power from wind on a good day than either coal or nuclear and lithium makes that cheap wind power mobile. Coal is much dirtier than any internal combustion engine, gas or diesel.
solidpoint 4 years ago
The energy cost of producing a wind turbine is greater than the wind turbine will generate over 15 years?
If you want a wind turbine, buy it, build it, or whatever and put it in your own backyard.
freightdog777 3 years ago
And UFOs landed in my backyard just last night.
Devast8ion 3 years ago
They should have given you a ride...to save on gas...
freightdog777 3 years ago
Since wind burns nothing, the only energy cost is for apparatus. Coal, & gas can never get to break-even because they don't produce as much energy as they consume - ignoring apparatus, transport, and transmission of electrical power. Nuclear has huge apparatus costs and waste that must be guarded for 500,000 years. The fact that wind can get to break-even at all shows it's massive superiority as an energy source.
solidpoint 3 years ago 3
It's very sad that Nuclear Fusion technology isn't being investigated with as much vigor as some of these other technologies.
There are undoubtedly huge equipment costs involved but there is a much lower waste downside than with fission.
Plus the fuel source is, for all intents and purposes, limitless.
In it's current state, Fusion is not viable... But if we had spent that $1 trillion+ on this problem instead of a war that doesn't solve the energy crisis anyway, who knows where we'd be.
FiatOrFreedom 2 years ago 3
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slopeylopey 2 years ago
The best place for wind power is off-shore. The wind resource is better there, it's in no one's backyard, and there are no right-of-way issues with the necessary transmission cables. If you want nuclear on the other hand, put it in your backyard and it will still kill everything in 500 radial miles when it blows up. Only 25 Chernobyls would destroy every breadbasket on Earth. Not on my planet!
solidpoint 3 years ago
You don't own this planet.
Nuclear is the best bang for the buck.
Chernoble had NO containment building.
All 104 US nuclear powerplants do have containment buildings and are extremely safe.
freightdog777 3 years ago
Nuclear isn't even close to being the biggest bang for the buck. First it costs a fortune to build a plant. 2nd, the operational life-span of that plant is very uncertain - 1 mistake and it's a huge chunk of toxic waste. 3rd, take a drive thru NM and you'll find mountains of uranium mine tailing 10 miles long and 2,000 ft deep all dug with fossil fuels that now pollute the air and water. Containment building withstand four PSI - and won't solve the waste issue.Nuclear is hugely expensive.
solidpoint 3 years ago
Wrong again. The payback period for a good off-shore wind turbine is < 2 yrs - that's not even close to 15 years. For peak generation rates - about $0.40/kwh, the payback period is less than a single year. Do the math. The TOTAL of ALL costs is a dollar a watt all-in.
For a 5mw unit that's a $5 million cost. At $.40 kwh * 8,760 hrs/yr it generates $17.5 million a year in power. At $.10 kwh $4.3 million/yr. Offshore has 80% availability, so worst-case $3.5 million/yr.
solidpoint 3 years ago
Why do you think there is a 18 month backlog for turbines? It's because anyone with a brain and two nickels to rub together is desperately trying to get theirs in production. Wind can, and most likely will, displace all other forms of electrical generation. Denmark's initial goal was to produce 20% from wind. The cost is now falling so fast they are targeting 80% from wind. This bullshit Russia just pulled will accelerated others in that direction with a urgency nearing desperation.
solidpoint 3 years ago
That was a cool bike!
Let´s hope for more converters worldwide!
(i will surely convert my future car one day =D
blastergti 4 years ago
Well it was zero emissions till he did the burn-out, cool!
bigrobnz 4 years ago