John Pilger - Civil disobedience is the only way now

[HardcoreJungFunk]

great speach - I'd love it if John Pilger could do a documentary on 9/11 similar ro his "power of nightmares" which was excellent

[thenumber13dotnet]

Military want to kill each other? knock yourselves out. Pick a place and war yourselves to death. We don't want civilians murdered anywhere, anytime for any reason.<3

[mikecorbeil]

This is an excellent speech ; even seeming risky, dangerous, with Washington and NATO liking to assassinate "trouble makers" and people who become "unreliable"; unreliable in terms of profits, of course.

Elect John Pilger as PM of Au., or President of the USA would be even better.

[volitionlocked]

John really is a good guy :)

[Bartek123super]

Libya S.O.S

[TheHolySpirit]

There's the TRUTH, right there. The veil has been lifted. EVERYONE knows. It is time for all of US TO TAKE OUR PLANET BACK from these criminals. WE are the 100% They are now insignificant.

[lordfec]

political war crimes

[HousekaterClaudio]

This is reality in Sirte (just one example):

youtube.com/watch?v=EByGNvxm_z­I

Most libyans are PRO Gaddafi, so they try to fight against the criminal rebels, which are murdering,raping and looting.

The NATO states then, the people are "Gaddafi-loyalists" and bomb them.

[mcai9mh3]

@HousekaterClaudio

Yes that is the reality in Sirte. Most Libyans are clearly not though, and your deluded to say so.

Gaddaffi priveleged his home town with money and status. But he murdered tens of thousands all over Libya. Sirte cannot continue tyo oppress the majority of Libyans to preserve their own prilieged status. Civilians can leave if they want. NTC troops are giving them water and petrol as they leave. You might not like NATO, but the Libyans have chosen this.

[DYORPEEPS]

@mcai9mh3 Evidence of these thousands Gaddafi killed? Fuck all. Just repeating the same shit you're told. NTC rebels are also responsible for a genocide against black Libyans which western pricks like you conveniently ignore.

[mcai9mh3]

@DYORPEEPS

so are you telling me Gaddaffi didnt kill thousands? The black africans murdered by rebels was well covered and condemned by amnesty (a western 'prick' organisation) international. The NTC has condemmed it.

Sounds like your very upset that your hero is dead. I for one will raise a glass to the end of the regime, and the brave Libyans brought this about. Good luck Libya.

[DYORPEEPS]

@mcai9mh3 I asked you for evidence. Posing bullshit isn't evidence. We've seen your lies in every invasion.



[mcai9mh3]

@DYORPEEPS

Who is 'we'? YOU may not accept the legitamacy of the ICC, but 139 countries including Libya do. If you dont accept their evidence (never mind the mass graves and the wars he started in Chad, Sudan and Egypt), then nothing I can say will convince you. The Libyans and the Arab League asked for our protection from Gaddafi and we gave it. Sorry if that upsets your hatred of the west, but we did the right thing. Dont take my world for it. ask the Libyans - theyre most grateful.

[movement26]

It is a sick world when this man's writings and programmes are largely ignored by the mainstream media, but Al Gore and Henry Kissinger are recipients of the Nobel peace prize....

[mcai9mh3]

@movement26

This man just picks one side and describes in detail the horror of war in order to repulse us and bring us around to his world view. But not once have I seen him pay the same attention to the vastly more numerous victims of the Taliban and Gaddaffi.

[movement26]

@mcai9mh3 Thankyou for your considered opinion.......I'm guessing you are not a fan of Mr Pilger.

[mcai9mh3]

I used to like him, until he started opposing the action on Libya. Here were the citizens of Bengazi crying out for help to the world when Gaddaffi promised to show no mercy - and Mr Pilger joined Russia and China in trying to deny them that help. All to fit in with his ideology. Im no fan of Nato, but we absolutely had to help them - I just think hes become so radical that he doesnt see the world for what it really is - just for his dogmatic view of it. Sometimes the west can do right.

[movement26]

@mcai9mh3 Russia and China could have denied them help by vetoing the U.N. resolution back in March........but they abstained........Makes you wonder why.......I mean who bullies Russia and China?

[mcai9mh3]

@movement26

Very reluctantly abstained! I guess even these dictatorships have some scruples when Gaddafi threatened to chase down the rebels 'like rats'

And now they are preventing sanctions against al Assads murderous regime in Syria - latest death toll was 3000. thats more than cast lead killed!

[RussMaxable]

@mcai9mh3 yeah but what has happened now, the country is unstable and over 50,000 people are dead, that in anyones mind is a bloodbath, where we not to avoid all that, the people liked Gaddafi, so much so in Tripoli they had a march for him of 1.5 million people and he asked for an election and would of stepped down if he lost, overseen by the U.N, you don't know this because the media never told you, that is the pointr he is trying to make.Also the war is not over, it is ongoing.......

[mcai9mh3]

@RussMaxable

Where on earth do you get your information from? 1.5 million people? The population of Tripoli is only 1.7 million! Libya is only 6 million - so that would mean 1 quater of the population marched for him. Thats absurd.

[CrazyEddi3]

@mcai9mh3 He's not Hitchens or Dawkins, he's still very much human.

[hummussexual]

@mcai9mh3 you clearly havent read any of his books then have u

[RussMaxable]

@mcai9mh3 Yes he has, have t\you read any of his books, he does that because everyone knows about those crimes which if you cared to read his books he talks about, he is for the poor of the world so he understands that sometimes that is human nature in a poor place but we should know better but we don't because of the media, that is all he is trying to point out.He always clearly shows the crimes of both sides, the other side is already taken care of, our crimes are not.

[HousekaterClaudio]

Great speech!

Stop paying taxes! Stop support these Zionist occupied US-Government!

[JohnNada80]

John Pilger is the epitome of a REAL journalist. The man oozes integrity, compassion and intellectual honesty.

[Wakeymedia3]

/watch?v=Ddqo894vRFc

[abledanger01]

John Pilger is in the dictionary under integrity

[mcai9mh3]

Oh go hug Gaddafi you cruel moron

[abledanger01]

@mcai9mh3 whats the weather like in tel aviv?

[mcai9mh3]

@abledanger01

Is that some really lame way of calling me a jew?

[jewishcrimenetwork]

Bush, Cheney, Óbama, etc are just zionist puppets. It is the jews stupid. They are destroying the world.

See the video in 911missinglinks(com) for the truth about 911.

[mcai9mh3]

@jewishcrimenetwork

Of course, but theyll never fool you 'jewishcrimenetwork' will they?

[jewishcrimenetwork]

@mcai9mh3 They have done it all my life until the 911 blunder which is the smoking gun. Too obvious for anyone with 2 neruons. Once you learned that 911 was a jew job the rest comes easy.

[mcai9mh3]

@jewishcrimenetwork

Why are you anti-semetic?

These crazy conspiracies are ludicrous.

[jewishcrimenetwork]

@mcai9mh3 Are you a jew? You certainly look one calling people anti-semitic. Sorry pal that word doesn't work anymore.

We now know that 95% of semites are Arabas and only 10% of so-called jews are semites. So anti-semite means anti-arab.

I am interested in truth and stopping crime and biggest criminal network is jewish so yes I want the jewish criminal network destroyed.

Do you support the genoicide of innocent Palestines? You sure do as you are a jew and thus killing is your religion.

[mcai9mh3]

@jewishcrimenetwork

dude you are really really predjudiced. Im not Jewish, Im Irish and Agnostic and of course I dont support the genocide of innocent Palestians! Jesus what a thing to suggest! It just troubles me how you can be so concerned for one group of people (the Palestinians) and not another (The Libyans)

I want the Arab Spring to succeed and for the Palestinians to have their own state free from Israeli attacks. I want Israel to be secure and enjoy peace with its neighbours

[jewishcrimenetwork]

@mcai9mh3 You can be Irish and agonistic and still be a jew. Don't play the jew is a religion thing card.

Do you want Israel to be secured? Who is threatening it? Nobody.

Who is being threatened by Israel? Let's see: Afghanistas, Irak, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, etc, etc.

If you don't see that the problem is the terrorist state of IsraHell then you are really predijuiced.

[mcai9mh3]

@jewishcrimenetwork

Well Im not Jewish mate. Not that it should matter if I was. Israel is being threatened by Hamas and Hezzbollah. And yes Israel has committed atrocious acts of violence against the Palestinians You are being way too dogmatic if you think the Palestinians are without blame though. And the blame game is zero sum anyway. The country is an absolute mess, the original sin was committed so long ago by people who are now dead and both sides are locked in ever escalating violence

[mcai9mh3]

@jewishcrimenetwork

The only solution is the Quartets peace plan. Israel must tear down its settlements in the west bank and lift its blockade of Gaza. Israel must end the Gerrymandering that gives the zionists a disproportionat advantage in the Knesset. Hamas must recognise Israels right to exist and amend its charter. It needs to stop firing rockets at Stderot. The Palestinians must be given a symbolical right of return and both countries need to share Jerusalem as a capital.

[CrazyEddi3]

@mcai9mh3 SENSE at last, god speed.

[23ord]

Reality in Libya..

wakeupfromyourslumber.c o m/video/sullivan/how-nato-and-­their-rebel-allies-defend-civi­lians

[TheAnimalinda]

check out Brave.non.violent.civil.disobe­dience on facebook

[UncaTuck]

The civil disobedience ploy is being orchestrated by the NWO. It will give them the excuse they need to declare worldwide martial law. Soon the FEMA camps will be full to overflowing. I'll be first in line.

[rwfresh]

This video should have a billion views. These sick people plan on killing all of us. They hate humanity. Peace IS Prosperity. DEMAND PEACE NOW!

[NewAmericaNow]

The lunatics are running the asylum

[dragszes]

good man.

[markcross]

?? you have a TV

[therunningmanlives]

you have to have a TV license?

[francistansecoDOTcom]

STOP PAYING YOUR COUNCIL TAX, STOP PAYING YOUR TV LICENSE

[theyarelying2u]

Well done John Pilger...tell it as it is...The BBC, The UK Gov't & the Eurozone Govts are all corrupt to F*ck. We are being led to our "complete demise". The sooner everyone wakes up to this the better. Please spread the word, the Govt no longer serve us, WE SERVE THEM! it doesnt matter who you vote for, they are all in on it, Con, Lab or Lib. They all work for the same "Rothschild Banking Empire" who control the EU, USA & Many many more ( and JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, CitiBank ). Wake up people

[romans617]

@theyarelying2u Amen to your words! You said it all! I agree wholeheartedly with you friend!!

[Johnzoil]

It's a pity he's wasting his breath.

[FadedSilkandGhosts]

@Johnzoil

Wasting his breath? Speaking out against tyranny is NEVER a waste of breath, because somewhere, somehow it will always cause a ripple across the fabric of reality and someone will be sparked aflame by hearing it. A waste? I think not. There are so few who raise their voice, we need ALL we can get.

[theylive23]

This is what a real investigative journalist and human being looks and sounds like.

[ricky6565]

I have the utmost respect for this man.

[peterpaulparker]

It is time to get educated. Common law is the one thing we have left that they can't corrupt. We can live in peace and the authorities know this but they are leading us down a dark alley. It is time for lawful rebellion. It is time for the elites of this world to be held accountable for their actions. Humanity must stand up and be together on the message of peace and understanding and rid ourselves of these stupid communist and facist policies. Love, peace and understanding.

[hablerz]

My god i can see filthy communists in the crowd though.

[RichieRich64UK]

Power to the People!! We must rise up, we the 99%

[Aristilus]

You won't get this on Camerons propaganda machine, ie. the BBC

[mylesrdavidson1]

@tr1ngroses Well said!

[vastell]

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[TynesTunes]

THANK YOU <3

The green resistance unite the world... 

[Costign]

You're the man John!

Thanks for filming these justiciayauk. :)

[kitty2katty]

I just love John Pilger - the world will be a poorer place when he is gone.  Such a decent human man.

[mcai9mh3]

@kitty2katty

Hes really not. Hes an egotystical political ideologue.

[AustinGerassimos]

what does pilger think of ghadaffi's victims? what are his sources for the "fragmentation bomb" claims?

[adeworks]

@AustinGerassimos What Gaddaffi victims are those then? What are your sources?

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

It doesnt let you post links on here, but if you are in dought (and you must be living in a cave not to have heard of what that monster did to his own people), go to the ICC (International Criminal Court) webpage and look at the arrest warrant for Gaddafi.

[DYORPEEPS]

@mcai9mh3 The ICC had nothing more than bullshit claims. Bullshit about containers of viagra. Why suddenly did these 'crimes' come to light when the western fucks saw a chance to invade.

[mikecorbeil]

@DYORPEEPS What does viagra have to do with any of this? Was the ICC really looking into this, and if it was, then who was supposedly guilty, according to the ICC and the western elites controlling their (not ours, but their) ICC?

[DYORPEEPS]

@mikecorbeil The ICC is a tool of the western powers. It's corrupt as the governments who invaded.

[mcai9mh3]

@DYORPEEPS

In answer to your question, the court was asked why they didnt issue an arrest warrent years ago for Gaddafi and the reponse was that they didnt see any realistic prospect of apprehending him. Once the revolution against his rule began, the trigger was the report of shooting protesters from helicopters. There are many barbaric leaders across the world that do not have arrest warrents, because there is just no real prospect of them being captured.

[DYORPEEPS]

@mcai9mh3 Where are you pulling this out from, your arse? They've said no such thing.

As for your bullshit about helicopters. Total fiction. Who the fuck are you, btw?

[mcai9mh3]

Im getting the distinct impression you havent been following events in Libya these last six months. Just google 'Arab League Libya' and youll find plenty of sources for the Arab resolution supporting military action. The shooting from Helicopters is what turned peaceful protests into violent revolution. You shouldnt let your hatred of the west let it impair your judgement of the Arab Spring. These people deserve to be free of these tyrants. And NATO was fully justified unders UN resolution 1973

[DYORPEEPS]

@mcai9mh3 I'm getting the distinct impression that you're wondering why I'm not accepting the lies pumped out over the last 6 months.

Evidence of these helicopters being used to shoot protestors? None. NATO first claimed Gaddafi had massacred thousands. When asked for evidence they then revised this to 'was about to kill thousands'. I don't need lessons on morality from governments with previous on war lies and massacres.

[mcai9mh3]

@DYORPEEPS

The evidence is there - you just reject any evidence that contradicts your world view of an evil and imperialist west.

The rebels committed a war crime in Sirte, I acknowledge that and hope (but dont expect) that the NTC will hand over the rebel commander responsible for shooting those 30 people while they were tied up. Do you really think the Libyans wanted to keep Gaddaffi in power? You dont think this was a popular revolution? Your only fooling yourself.

[DYORPEEPS]

@mcai9mh3 NATO's resolution was based on protecting civilians. Not murdering civilians and army who posed no threat. This was about regime change, pure and simple. Anyone that isn't a delusional western racist bastard can see that.

Go tell your propaganda to someone who cares.

[mcai9mh3]

@DYORPEEPS

Libyans were never going to be safe while he was in power. Plain and simple.

Gaddaffi lost. Saddam lost. Bin Laden lost. All your heros are now dead, and hopefully soon Al-Assad will be too.

The Libyans, Tunisians and Egyptians won, and I pray that the oppressed citizens of Bahrain, Yemen and Syria will too.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 The ICC - you mean the International Cangaroo Court - like they are really impartial aren't they. Talk about victors justice! When they issue an arrest warrant for the war crimes of Tony Blair and George Bush I'll respect the ICC. Until then it's just hypocritical propaganda.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

The ICC has 139 Signatories and 118 Ratifications. It draws its legitamacy from that. It doesnt require your approval.

What war crimes did Blair and Bush commit?



[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Funny how the US isn't a signatory isn't it. Blair and Bush started a war of aggression against Iraq (which is a war crime) resulting in the deaths of up to 1,000,000 civilians. They are war criminals, as are Cheney and Rumsfeld.

[mcai9mh3]

the US not signing up is rather moot as the principal of 'universal jurisdiction' would allow any American to be tried in the court.

There was an attempt to try Blair in the court, but it was too legally murky to get through. Personally, after spending time with the Kurds in northern Iraq, I believe the war was just, and that the people of Iraq were worth saving. Even if your body count of 1 million was accurate (it isnt), Coalition troops were responsible for a tiny fraction of these deaths.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 You are right. It was more like 2 million. The USA and the rest of the criminal nations are responsible for them all because it was obvious that there would be unrest as the whole thing was undertaken with no regard to the aftermath, despite many repeated warnings. Anyway, at least you won't complain when your children are killed when China saves US and British citizens from their corrupt capitalist dictatorships.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

Have you any idea what the Baathists was doing to the Kurds? Doesnt their opinion count for anything?

And you cant just pluck body counts out of the air to suit your warped ideology. We utterly failed to help in Rwanda and Darfur , just as we are failing now in Syria and Palestine. We didnt want to make that mistake in Libya, thats why we did what we did. YOU may not like it, but the Libyans do.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Baathists??? It was the US who put Saddam Hussein in power in the first place, and the US who recruited and trained Bin Laden, supported Suharto in Indonesia, and Pinochet and many other brutal dictators (still in power in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia). It was the UK and US that conspired to overthrow the democratically elected Mossedeq in Iran and put in place the brutal Shah. Western meddling has caused most of the world's current problems.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

Yep big mistakes by the west. That makes the burden of removing these dictators lie on the shoulders of the west. Having helped these regimes to power it was our duty to remove them when their crimes became apparent. Frankly we should have done it a long time ago.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Mistakes the West is still making. The Libyan rebels have already slaughtered hundreds of innocent people and are now fighting between themselves. NATO has gotten rid of Gadaffi and replaced him with a bunch of warlords. It could end up as Somalia mark 2. You also know nothing of all the good things Gadaffi did, which resulted in Libyan people having a higher average living standard than any other Arabian or African country, and higher even than Greece or Portugal by some measures.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

Well.. that remains to be seen. I dont deny the rebels have committed mass murder and Im not excusing it. But compared to Gaddaffis record of burying people alive, mass execution, sponsorship of the IRA and bombing planes in Scotland and murders in England and Germany, there is no comparison. Your defence of Gaddaffi doesnt wash. People use the same argument to defend Hezbollah in Lebanon - yes they do good social work. - but that is NOTHING COMPARED TO THE HARM THEY DO.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Libya had nothing to do with the Pan Am bomb - it was planted by Syria and Libya were scapegoated.  Gaddaffis alledged sponsorship of the IRA is no different to the US sponsorship of the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, or contra rebels in Nicaragua or the 'rebels' in Libya. I never said Gaddaffi was a nice man, but that he was generally better for Libyans that the most African or Arabian leaders are for their people. Also he killed a lot less innocents than Bush 1 &2, Clinton, Blair etc.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

I cannot beleive you are comparing the IRA, a bunch of armed criminals who plant bombs to butcher little girls in Omagh are the equivalent of the rebels. I say this as someone raised an Irish Catholic and an Irish Nationalist. Your romantic view of the IRA is nothing short of a fairytale friend. These murderers are thugs, pure and simple, and they continue to threaten the fragile peace we have built and they DO NOT have the support of the nationist community.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Have you heard about the atrocities that the Libyan 'rebels' have been carrying out? They too are murdering scumbags. No difference. Imagine what the IRA could have achieved if the US airforce had been backing them, including air dropping them weapons and armour.

[mcai9mh3]

In my posts above I said some of these are war crimes.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Anyway, What about the Mujahadeen? What about the Contra rebels in Nicaragua? They made the IRA look like Ghandi, and they were funded and supported by the USA. You really need to do some research and stop believing the crap you are told by mainstream media.

[mcai9mh3]

Your IRA heroes leave bombs in croweded town centres and then give false warnings so that the people are directed towards the bomb. Sickining.

I would never try to defend everthing every US president has done, but Libya and Iraq have the approval of their citizens. What holy grail of Truth do you use for your info if not the media? The North Korean ministry of information perhaps? Russia Today? Taliban blogs? please tell me how you are so enlightened, while everone else is so decieved

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 I don't support terrorism in any form, whether sponsored by Gadaffi, the Pentagon or Whitehall. I am 'so enlightened' because I read articles that truthful, honest journalists write, (e.g. John Pilger, Simon Davies, Robert Fisk, George Monbiot) rather than the corporate/government approved bullshit you'll hear on Fox, CNN and increasingly the BBC and ITN. Why not open your eyes and visit Media Lens or Information Clearing House (for example).

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

No wonder youve got such an anti-arab view considering your sources. Does it ever occur to you that you are only listening to the left? Fox news may be bullshit, but I hardly think its government aproved! They despise Obama and many of their Pundits opposed the intervention in Libya.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Anti-arab view? What are you on about? I am against dictatorships not Arabs you dickhead. I have no idea whether these journalists are on the left or the right but I know they are on the side of truth and offer the alternative view to the Fox, CNN, BBC news that I listen to EVERY DAY so I am hardly only listening to one side of the argument (like I suspect you so). Your comment about Fox and Obama is laughably niaive.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

You support Gaddaffi and Saddam and the IRA, and no doubt Al Assad and Mubarak too you 'dickhead'.

You say you listen to the truth, but you dont know anything about the Middle east, sounds like your only experience of it is a package holiday to Sharm. Speak any arabic? Of course not. Ever worked out there? doubt it. Ever spoken to a real Libyan, Kurd or Palestinian? Unlikely. You are completely uninformed, hence your crazy conspiracies and support for arab dictators. Your a moron.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 I have obviously won this argument, so I shall not be replying to your incoherent nonsense any more.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks Lol, of course you have. Thats how you win arguments, by declaring yourself the winner. Anyway, your side lost - Gaddaffis dead, Saddams dead and the rebels are in charge in Libya along with a working democracy in Iraq. As usual you radical conspiracy theorists are left whingeing about 'American imperialism', while the rest of the world moves on. Doesnt matter, the right side won. Bye.

[houlies]

@mcai9mh3

There's no winners or losers in war. Also there's no working democracy in Iraq or Libya for that matter.

[mcai9mh3]

@houlies

I disagree. Saddam and Gaddaffi most definately lost. Iraq has a pretty decent fleding democracy. less than a decade old and its already better than Lebanon and Russia.

Cant tell the future as far as Libya goes, but the politicians are making the right noises, I think they will do well.

[offwiththefairies77]

@mcai9mh3 Pretty much all of the I.R.A Bombers have been realeased since it was proven they were innocent/set-up.

[mcai9mh3]

@offwiththefairies77

A handful were - but the rest were released under the good friday agreement. Doesnt make them innocent.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

And the US didnt 'put Saddam in power in the first place' - He took over in a coup and murdered the opposition in the Iraqi parliament. If you ever bothered to visit Iraq, you would see that the signs above the mass graves in Hallabjah read 'It it forbidden for Baathists to enter this place' . It was the Baathists that gassed the town and its people. Not the Wests fault - The survivors clearly blame the Baathists and held mass celebrations when Chemical Ali was executed.

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3

You really don't know what you are talking about my friend. The Baath movement is equivalent to the Labour movement in Europe. Most Arab speaking countries have a Baath Party. It has nothing intrinsically to do with Saddam or brutality - it just happened to be the party that Saddam belonged to.

[mcai9mh3]

I dont? really? Ive been to Hallabjah, Ive seen the mass graves from al-anfal, Ive spoken to the survivors and Ive visited the torture house in Sulaymaniyah. Ive been inside Iraqi houses with pictures of George bush on the wall. Have you? Before I went I was anti-war, but when I saw the misery the Iraqi Baathist regime inflicted on these people and heard how grateful they were to the Americans I had to admit that I was wrong. The kurds blame the Baathists of Iraq. Thats who im talking about.

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

Dude whats your email address? send it to me privately and ill send you a picture to prove I know exactly what the word 'Baathist' means to an Iraqi kurd

[adeworks]

@mcai9mh3 Did you visit Fallujah as well?

[mcai9mh3]

@adeworks

No. Did you?

If you are comparing what happened there to al-anfal, then you are wide off the mark. But why wont you listen to what the Iraqis have to say about it? Theres is the only opinion that matters in the end, and they are solidly pro american. If not then why the Anbar awakening?