Yeah its not right people need to see that music is an expression of who we are not just so get rich quick scheme that cant be shared unless we pay some fuckin royalties
No, tard. Jesus Christ. The term "niggers" in the song is just used as a shock proportion. The song is about what happened in Cambodia in 1975-1978. Goddammit. Stop being so stupid.
I get your point, allan. The footage is famous footage from the Vietnam war, not Cambodia. The only footage I've seen of Pol-Pot Cambodia is in a recent documentary. If you know about more, please post a link for us. The footage in the documentary was not very graphic and really wouldn't work for this video. Anyway, if someone is dumb enough to think Cambodia is a place in Vietnam, then they are probably too stupid to think twice about DK lyrics or who the hell Pol Pot was in the first place!
dang9669 - Even so, I'm sure some creative whiz could put something impressive together to go with the song other than newsreel from Vietnam, with or without exciting film/stills from Cambodia. With actors, they could stage better scenes.
Yes, some people are that dumb - but that doesn't mean DK should give them an excuse.
Hell - someone really messed up the reply sequences here. Why isn't it automatic and instant? And why sometimes don't my posts go through? It just waits there forever and when I come back to the page it's gone.
I love this video! I love the tie-die hippy shirts! Right on FatherTime. Pol Pot was a cruel, crazy man. Allan30000, there isn't much footage of Pol Pot's Cambodia. If you had a camera, the troops would take it, smash it, and put you to work planting rice. You would have been the last in line for that "bowl of rice a day". The more money you had, the more you suffered under Pol Pot, if you survived at all.
There were journalists in Cambodial at the time, so I expect some film ight have gotten out. Definitely at the time of the revolution and after the regime fell. Failing that - re-enactments.
Since the song is about life under the Khmer Rouge, why does the video have only clips of the war in it? Most of them look like they are from Vietnam anyway.
Thanks for posting this, though, it's a great song and a good clip.
FatherTimeasd - That's also a reason not to write the song. If the video featured Khmer Rouge Cambodia people would put the title of the song and the lyrics together with the video and figure out what it is. (And then they would know about it.)
Allan, more people know about it because Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys wrote this song about it! You blame him for not using "cambodian footage" when there is little to be shown, when you should give him kudos for discussing the topic in the first place! There was footage that got out, and it proved that Jello was correct. His lyrics are spot on! Pol pot was crazy and punished those who embraced western values. This song had to be made! Hell yeah! To Jello, DK, and everyone involved, thanks!
dang9669 - I'm not arguing with what the song says. I like the song. But it was released over a year after the regime fell, so Biafra wasn't the first to tell us about it. (He wasn't there himself.) It was the first many kids who otherwise wouldn't care knew of it, but aren't they the subject of the song? The video content may not have been the band's decision. But ironically (being an educational song) it relies on the audience not know the difference.
The makers of the video might have thought war scenes would be more captivating. Maybe they just wanted to push an anti-US/war message in there. since most of the clip is of the band, they wouldn't need a lot of stills of film of Cambodia in there. If not from the Khmer Rouge period, it could at least have been scenes taken in Cambodia before or after - of the geurilla fighting, the coup, or film/photos taken after the regime fell, if that was allowed by the Vietnamese Communist puppet regime.
I was replying to this comment that you made: "That's also a reason not to write the song".
But, by reading the "info" that pondscum77 posted, "Clips added to Kennedys clip" suggests that he added these clips, so your criticism is directed to pondscum77, not DK, correct?
That comment was a relyy to fathertime's reply to my earlier comment - not that you could find it here easily.
He said they used Vietnam clips because nobody knew about Cambodia. So why even write a song about it then? If you do a song about Cambodia, use clips of Cambodia - ESPECIALLY if nobody knows about it. Or they'll think Cambodia is a place in goddam Vietnam.
Did pondscum put it together? Well he can just re-do it then can't he!
No. The n-word is racist in ANY sense of the word, and it is highly offensive. The use of the word is plain wrong.
I will stand and fight for your right to use it, but as an African-American please don't begrudge me the right to express my outrage at its usage or the defence thereof.
Angus is right. It's an ugly, racist word. But DK is using it that way: the aristocrat described in the song tries to show sympathy with blacks ("braggin that you know/how the niggers feel cold/and the slums got so much soul"), but, to him, blacks are just "n-----s" and ghettos are just adorable, because so much quaint black music comes out of them.
That is, the word is intended to show that he's racist, overprivileged, completely out of touch, and needs the faceful of reality that he'd get in Polpot's Cambodia. He needs hopelessness, oppression, hard labor, death, starvation -- all the things that, through his participation in American classism and racism, he inflicts on the oppressed in his own country.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be outraged. Rather, I'm saying that the word is INTENDED to outrage us. It's meant to stoke our anger at that racist piece of garbage, and, by stoking our anger, to encourage us, as listeners, to sympathize with the idea of sending him to war-torn Cambodia for a harsh reality check.
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No word is in itself racist - it is the context in which it is used that makes it so. And the use of it in this song is not with a racist context. As for the Kennedys, the mafia itself has never had a biggwer family of crooks. In fact, the only good Kennedy IS a dead one.
What about Joseph Conrad's book "Nigger of the Narcissus", Mark Twain's character Nigger Jim, Dick Gregory's autobiography titled "Nigger" (he's negro, and the book is about himself of course), NWA calling themslves NWA's and regular use of "nigger' in songs by black rap groups. Blacks friends often call one another "nigger". And - the DK's drummer in that clip is black. "Nigger" was not a necessarily derogatory word until they started brainwashing whites about racism.
cause the word "niggers" means ignorant not black not asian ....any person of any race can be ignorant....manly anyone who uses that word in a negative way towards a black person is ignorant....cause they dont know the real meaning of the word...its really fucked up and stupid
Did you know that Klaus Fluoride is a transvestite? Also, Klaus is planning a change of sex through an operation. I saw a punk-documentary broadcasted by CNN in which he ``admitted´´.
i saw them at leeds uni back in 83.fucking brilliant.bauhuas where playing near by same night.slept in train station pissed.good old days.....thanks too all you who post their stuff.good work....
It means that a rich boy in America, couldn't take the stresses of a 3rd world country even if they were having the best day of the year. Well thats how I interpret it.
true. and because Vietnam came to Cambodia and stopped this killing, it was reason for US to make sanctions against vietnam even worse than before this intervention. true terrorism.
I'm so glad I found this, now I can sing more then a couple of lines when I'm cleaning up! ;-) I like to attach the floor with the vacuum while singing this....
dont let the bastards grind you down. yes take this job and shove it is dks you can find it on the (bedtime for democracy) album,now wheres my bowl of rice!
Holy fucking shit- no audio. The fuckheads!
pataphysician66 3 years ago
Yeah its not right people need to see that music is an expression of who we are not just so get rich quick scheme that cant be shared unless we pay some fuckin royalties
retrac676 3 years ago 3
What the fuck no damn audio i say we riot
retrac676 3 years ago 5
Is this song disgracing Black & Cambodian people or what I cant tell WTF he's on
GalaxYSmokaH4Trilli0 3 years ago 2
Dude look into the lyrics......most bands spend time talking about their dicks....atleast this band spent time on something worth while
pittapitta 3 years ago
No, tard. Jesus Christ. The term "niggers" in the song is just used as a shock proportion. The song is about what happened in Cambodia in 1975-1978. Goddammit. Stop being so stupid.
Their drummer was black.
eatfurrypeople 3 years ago
lol i loved it in guitar hero haha
ryan0666 3 years ago
guitar hero ruined this song BIG TIME! it just piss's me off to see peoples that say that there DK fans and they only know this song. Fuck them.
howcanit007 3 years ago
This song is freakin hella tits
ElHobbit9 3 years ago 2
lol
pretentiousguy27 3 years ago
Punk forevvverrrrrrr
arran8910 3 years ago
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This song freakin sucks
VolcAdiOsiriSpitfire 3 years ago
I get your point, allan. The footage is famous footage from the Vietnam war, not Cambodia. The only footage I've seen of Pol-Pot Cambodia is in a recent documentary. If you know about more, please post a link for us. The footage in the documentary was not very graphic and really wouldn't work for this video. Anyway, if someone is dumb enough to think Cambodia is a place in Vietnam, then they are probably too stupid to think twice about DK lyrics or who the hell Pol Pot was in the first place!
dang9669 3 years ago
dang9669 - Even so, I'm sure some creative whiz could put something impressive together to go with the song other than newsreel from Vietnam, with or without exciting film/stills from Cambodia. With actors, they could stage better scenes.
Yes, some people are that dumb - but that doesn't mean DK should give them an excuse.
allan30000 3 years ago
ha ha ha. right you are.
pretentiousguy27 3 years ago
some of these vietnam secenes are from a film called the deer hunter (great film btw) :D
tomorrettisgay 3 years ago
Hell - someone really messed up the reply sequences here. Why isn't it automatic and instant? And why sometimes don't my posts go through? It just waits there forever and when I come back to the page it's gone.
allan30000 3 years ago
BEAST!
twiztidtwiggy69 3 years ago
I love this video! I love the tie-die hippy shirts! Right on FatherTime. Pol Pot was a cruel, crazy man. Allan30000, there isn't much footage of Pol Pot's Cambodia. If you had a camera, the troops would take it, smash it, and put you to work planting rice. You would have been the last in line for that "bowl of rice a day". The more money you had, the more you suffered under Pol Pot, if you survived at all.
dang9669 3 years ago
There were journalists in Cambodial at the time, so I expect some film ight have gotten out. Definitely at the time of the revolution and after the regime fell. Failing that - re-enactments.
allan30000 3 years ago
Once more, pondscum77, your clips are quality valued! reThanx!
piluzinho 3 years ago
There is no such thing as racist or prejudice, just intollerance for the intollerable.
Tacotruck1166 3 years ago 2
thats fucking stupid
goastbrane 3 years ago 3
That was supposed to be a reply to angusthethird's comment (1 month ago) - and I did click on "reply" in his comment. What's wrong with this website?
allan30000 3 years ago
The version posted here sounds a bit different to the one I have on "Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death. I think it's just the vocals.
allan30000 3 years ago
Since the song is about life under the Khmer Rouge, why does the video have only clips of the war in it? Most of them look like they are from Vietnam anyway.
Thanks for posting this, though, it's a great song and a good clip.
allan30000 3 years ago 2
Becuase most people don't know shit about the Khmer Rouge or Pol Pot or anything that happened in Cambodia
FatherTimeasd 3 years ago
FatherTimeasd - That's also a reason not to write the song. If the video featured Khmer Rouge Cambodia people would put the title of the song and the lyrics together with the video and figure out what it is. (And then they would know about it.)
allan30000 3 years ago
Allan, more people know about it because Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys wrote this song about it! You blame him for not using "cambodian footage" when there is little to be shown, when you should give him kudos for discussing the topic in the first place! There was footage that got out, and it proved that Jello was correct. His lyrics are spot on! Pol pot was crazy and punished those who embraced western values. This song had to be made! Hell yeah! To Jello, DK, and everyone involved, thanks!
dang9669 3 years ago
dang9669 - I'm not arguing with what the song says. I like the song. But it was released over a year after the regime fell, so Biafra wasn't the first to tell us about it. (He wasn't there himself.) It was the first many kids who otherwise wouldn't care knew of it, but aren't they the subject of the song? The video content may not have been the band's decision. But ironically (being an educational song) it relies on the audience not know the difference.
allan30000 3 years ago
The makers of the video might have thought war scenes would be more captivating. Maybe they just wanted to push an anti-US/war message in there. since most of the clip is of the band, they wouldn't need a lot of stills of film of Cambodia in there. If not from the Khmer Rouge period, it could at least have been scenes taken in Cambodia before or after - of the geurilla fighting, the coup, or film/photos taken after the regime fell, if that was allowed by the Vietnamese Communist puppet regime.
allan30000 3 years ago
I was replying to this comment that you made: "That's also a reason not to write the song".
But, by reading the "info" that pondscum77 posted, "Clips added to Kennedys clip" suggests that he added these clips, so your criticism is directed to pondscum77, not DK, correct?
dang9669 3 years ago
That comment was a relyy to fathertime's reply to my earlier comment - not that you could find it here easily.
He said they used Vietnam clips because nobody knew about Cambodia. So why even write a song about it then? If you do a song about Cambodia, use clips of Cambodia - ESPECIALLY if nobody knows about it. Or they'll think Cambodia is a place in goddam Vietnam.
Did pondscum put it together? Well he can just re-do it then can't he!
allan30000 3 years ago
No, people know about Cambodia. There is just little to none known footage.
Taktwo2 3 years ago
godlike
danteisbrutal 3 years ago 2
r u serious? tell me it's not the guy on drums! lol.
eatthepope 3 years ago
awsome vid for a killer song
fuckbush3323 3 years ago 4
well said handyhandyhandy, well said
zoidberg1337 3 years ago 8
Agreed.
GepownedProductions 3 years ago
Love the video, by the way
handyhandyhandy 3 years ago 6
Amen man, amen. Well said. And I love the song.
GepownedProductions 3 years ago
No. The n-word is racist in ANY sense of the word, and it is highly offensive. The use of the word is plain wrong.
I will stand and fight for your right to use it, but as an African-American please don't begrudge me the right to express my outrage at its usage or the defence thereof.
angusthethird 3 years ago
not to be an ass but do you know what the actual definition of the word is? it is only a racist word because people let it become a racist word.
black06ss1985 3 years ago
Angus is right. It's an ugly, racist word. But DK is using it that way: the aristocrat described in the song tries to show sympathy with blacks ("braggin that you know/how the niggers feel cold/and the slums got so much soul"), but, to him, blacks are just "n-----s" and ghettos are just adorable, because so much quaint black music comes out of them.
handyhandyhandy 3 years ago 6
That is, the word is intended to show that he's racist, overprivileged, completely out of touch, and needs the faceful of reality that he'd get in Polpot's Cambodia. He needs hopelessness, oppression, hard labor, death, starvation -- all the things that, through his participation in American classism and racism, he inflicts on the oppressed in his own country.
handyhandyhandy 3 years ago 4
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be outraged. Rather, I'm saying that the word is INTENDED to outrage us. It's meant to stoke our anger at that racist piece of garbage, and, by stoking our anger, to encourage us, as listeners, to sympathize with the idea of sending him to war-torn Cambodia for a harsh reality check.
handyhandyhandy 3 years ago 4
I don't bedgudge you your expression of outrage, but I don't think that you have good reason for begrudging the band their use of the word.
handyhandyhandy 3 years ago 3
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No word is in itself racist - it is the context in which it is used that makes it so. And the use of it in this song is not with a racist context. As for the Kennedys, the mafia itself has never had a biggwer family of crooks. In fact, the only good Kennedy IS a dead one.
SmackDat13 3 years ago
F U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
butheadVSbevus 3 years ago 4
ahh, finally someone with brains.
10truefreak01 3 years ago
Let me enlighten you a bit: The N-word, anytime it is used, in any manner it's used, is derogatory in and of itself.
And the idea of a band mocking a family that is well-known and loved in this country, I am sorry, is putrid.
angusthethird 3 years ago
No the people who use it in a sense that is racist make it racist.
ironman276 3 years ago
What about coon? :D
Suivien 3 years ago 2
What about Joseph Conrad's book "Nigger of the Narcissus", Mark Twain's character Nigger Jim, Dick Gregory's autobiography titled "Nigger" (he's negro, and the book is about himself of course), NWA calling themslves NWA's and regular use of "nigger' in songs by black rap groups. Blacks friends often call one another "nigger". And - the DK's drummer in that clip is black. "Nigger" was not a necessarily derogatory word until they started brainwashing whites about racism.
allan30000 3 years ago
Richard Cheese's versions kicks ass
kwz3 3 years ago
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But I still call black people niggers because one called me a supremacist for talking about how the Confederates could have won.
HAN56HAN 3 years ago
why do they say "niggers" if they have a black drummer?
shinobi138 3 years ago
cause the word "niggers" means ignorant not black not asian ....any person of any race can be ignorant....manly anyone who uses that word in a negative way towards a black person is ignorant....cause they dont know the real meaning of the word...its really fucked up and stupid
hpclone25 3 years ago
D.H. Peligro was not the drummer when this song was made.
They didn't use the word in a derogatory sense.
CousinItx 3 years ago
I thought I never seen it but someone is singing really stupid in purpose
Chai0628 3 years ago
XD I love this song, these guys were true punks in every sense of the word.
GamerErman2001 3 years ago
This was real political punk music!
rockpoetDan 3 years ago 5
i wonder if pol pot had this album? probably not
gritt66 3 years ago 2
probably both but great music so who cares?
oodled 3 years ago
i love this song...seriously...but he is like...just insane in the brain...or just realy realy high ?
or is it just show...*what i highly doubt*
MagicLuDa 3 years ago
PUNKS NOT DEAD!
avend666 3 years ago 4
notice theres no rhythm guitar... drums bass and lead, for the most part... so trebeled and creepy, i love this band.
nelson3300 3 years ago 6
Pol Pot I hope you burn in hell. if you don't know what the Khmer Rouge is, I suggest you look it up...
nelson3300 3 years ago 2
is awesome im jus a teenager n ther are some (no offence meant) old codgers who are united in a love for awesome music!
justkeepjammin 3 years ago
CHEERS (PONDSCUM)
pondscum77 3 years ago
Old codgers... i'm an old codger n' now my lifes been destroyed by a whippersnapper!..lol
majorsnag 3 years ago 2
Did you know that Klaus Fluoride is a transvestite? Also, Klaus is planning a change of sex through an operation. I saw a punk-documentary broadcasted by CNN in which he ``admitted´´.
primitivisten 3 years ago
He's not a transvestite...
He has kids and in a recent interview talked about being more of a family man now.....
And if he did "admit" it I think it was sarcastic since it was aired on CNN, a biased news channel and he purposely did it....
nyrangers731 3 years ago 3
Yes, I'm just fucking with you. I'm also screwed.
primitivisten 3 years ago 5
Best version.
primitivisten 3 years ago
cheers( pondscum )
pondscum77 3 years ago
i never gave this a thought when it come out, knew the line "Holiday in cambodia, where the people dress in black".
Just got it sent me n' it's a top tune, bit fuckin' late at 43...hahah
majorsnag 3 years ago
Its never too late mate cheers ,PONDSCUM.
pondscum77 3 years ago
POL POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PMLI 3 years ago
Still brilliant 28 years later
Bakkuba 4 years ago 4
i saw them at leeds uni back in 83.fucking brilliant.bauhuas where playing near by same night.slept in train station pissed.good old days.....thanks too all you who post their stuff.good work....
championsofeurope5x 4 years ago
Pol Pot <3
idontreallyknowno 4 years ago
thänk juu!
lassi666 4 years ago
please tell me what means holiday in cambodia.....i dont get it
lassi666 4 years ago
It means that a rich boy in America, couldn't take the stresses of a 3rd world country even if they were having the best day of the year. Well thats how I interpret it.
sunbasher 4 years ago 4
why does it say "hot/cold"? it because there are hot summers and cold winters in Cambodia? or hot and cold wars?
Idiotmaster 4 years ago
It says POL POT
johnny2x420 4 years ago
true but that doesn't really make sense ...or i just don't get it
Guntherpops 4 years ago
Pol Pot was a communist revolutionary who killed thousands of people, his revolution was funded by the US government
johnny2x420 4 years ago 3
true. and because Vietnam came to Cambodia and stopped this killing, it was reason for US to make sanctions against vietnam even worse than before this intervention. true terrorism.
kilian 3 years ago 2
The best u.s. punk band ever, on par with the best brit punk.
Buddrow01 4 years ago
Pol Pot Pol Pot Pol Pot Pol Pot
johnny2x420 4 years ago
nice one , have a look at the movie (doc)
(ZEITGEIST) IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF MEANING ,
SUBVERT SUBVERT SUBVERT
pondscum77 4 years ago
I'm so glad I found this, now I can sing more then a couple of lines when I'm cleaning up! ;-) I like to attach the floor with the vacuum while singing this....
Is Take This Job & Shove It by DK?
Spiralrabbit 4 years ago
dont let the bastards grind you down. yes take this job and shove it is dks you can find it on the (bedtime for democracy) album,now wheres my bowl of rice!
pondscum77 4 years ago
"Take This Job and Shove It" is a song by David Allan Coe that the Dead Kennedys covered. More famously covered by Johnny Paycheck.
devilskware 4 years ago