Pioneer Premier TS-W5102 SPL Champion Series

[hedoesitallday315]

Sounds really clean

[mazda2284]

nice man ! i have the 15'' of these . i also have a bunch of the smaller SPL 12's

[Rms2000w]

damn, niicce i like em!

[illyapotakuyev]

Moves like tits=)

[darockwilda915]

Woofers need more air. Let em breath

[brown029]

@darockwilda915 check the specs on these things not only are they built to be loud they are made to be precise or tight and do not require loads of space either

[alie480]

do you think they can fill up an vw t1

if i have 2 of them?

[brown029]

@alie480 only really need one, it by itself can candle 3500 rms twin spider carbon fiber titanium overhung surround

[TheHoptotheKins]

rather have a w7

[BENSYARDSERVICE]

@TheHoptotheKins rather have a dc level 5 12 lol.

[jammillamac1]

man they even look as good as they sound..... good job man

[IZZYxSKiiLZ]

let the baby out!(:

[amosbrookes]

that's absolutely awesome man, i just got 2 of the 2011 12" champion series in mine and they hit hard as, just waiting on my pay for 2 15's to go with it

sick system you got

[adrianGothic1009]

i love pioneer it the best yea

[SeRReAL6]

they almost look like w7s

[everyrider]

@DragonWagon6 fag

[pimpdan12345]

those look deadly loud for a couple 12's....my single BTL is loud but im only running 2k...how are the lows on these subs?..

[everyrider]

@DragonWagon6 why would you base your entire argument over a preblown sub you came across? ive got an entire pioneer system. pioneer's higher end stuff is actually very good. in 2005 pioneer actually held the world record with 180.3 db's. scott owens look it up. i have 2 tsw-d3002d4's with 2 prs-d1200 and they are louder than anything you have so shut the fuck up. oh and pioneer has 15's fag and 18's

[everyrider]

@everyrider TS-W8102SPL 15'' sub. $1400 bet you they dont sell this shit at "wally world"

[everyrider]

@DragonWagon6 yea cause you had the shit pioneers they make in mexico and sell at walmart dumass

[001homer001]

want to buy this one ...

This speaker is really good?

how many liters have the box?

thanks

[1997sexybabe]

I have a single 12 pioneer spl Champion with 3200 watts going to it and its amazing how it sounds for only one 12

[ebgt302]

dude that is awesome, 1 of those is enough your a sick bastard having 2 lol

nice set up,

[zekenc]

world record holders.... 2500rms!!

[premierBASS]

Nice 5 stars man...

[malibuaudio69]

Hey man nice set up and all, but just thinking, maybe a thicker box with more bracing would help?

[CoupeDeville23]

why is everyone below talking about max wattage.. max power means absolutely nothing at all!@!!!

[kducer]

@CoupeDeville23 yep its all about the rms not the max wattage.

[CoupeDeville23]

@kducer exactly.. and nobody seems to understand that... I wish companies would stop advertising max wattage... it leads to crap companies like power acoustik taking business away from good companies like Alpine

[kducer]

@CoupeDeville23 right. cause they put such high max wattage on crappier subs n low rms n people think its a real powerful sub cause the max wattage is so high when actually it aint that powerful of a sub. name brand subs might be more expensive but there well worth it. ur right they should only put the rms on subs cause thats really there max power. like sony explods 1200 watt max n only 150 watt rms. people buy em cause there wattage is 1200 max. they dont even look at the rms.

[CoupeDeville23]

@kducer someone called me a moron because I spent big money on a JL 1000/1v2, when they decided to spend half the cost to buy a Lanzar 4000 watt amp... perfect example... more max watts means better amp? they'll learn someday.. I hope...

[RYDOGG2992]

@CoupeDeville23 yeah and pa rates there amps at 18v so when u buy 1000rms there you get about 400 and there fuses make it so you cant even run over 600rms with out braking them. i hate companys like that

[edyloro]

the song please???

[antocati92]

O_O

[kevinogyo]

u shouldve played a diff song that couldve bring out da real quality n those subs..sound gud tho

[flowsosick449]

nice subs and nice head unit.

[MyRedBass]

nice

5 stars

[aerosport91]

should have gone for the TS-W8102SPL (15") it rapes. i would know ;P

[Zeepian]

man.....what kind of amp should i get...i got one of these....had it hooked up to massive 3000.1 at 4ohm...and it was loud as hell...but amp burnt out....i need a solid amp to run tthis speaker to its full potential....

[TheKoups]

want brand are the amps? coz i know their not Pioneer

[BoyBetterRun]

They look massive 4 12's lol

[Braco136]

fruityloopy1 i was wright dude...

[gaspower70]

that looks nice

[cool3be]

i heard t3 audio, audioque's,fi car audio and jl.... but these pioneer spl champions are the best sounding subs i have ever heard. they have awesome power output and the best sound quality in a sub.

[Braco136]

5 stars man!!!awesome subs you have dude,i think they are 2500w rms each if i am not wrong..clear sound and massive excursion!!

[fruityloopy1]

@Braco136 Wrong. 1000 Watts RMS and 3500 Watts Max

[JTONE1212]

these arent champ pros these are spl 5000s these are 2500rms 6000max

[fruityloopy1]

@JTONE1212 ahhh didnt notice XD. so where would i go about getting these? lol

[JTONE1212]

sonicelectronix sells them these are no where in the same price range as champ pros these run about 500 for the 12 inch

[TURBOGSRHATCH]

no those are the ts-3002 that have 1000 wats rms these are the spl ones that indeed have 2500 watts

[spike131113]

@fruityloopy1

You dont know what your talking about.

Goto Pioneers website your wrong.

[fruityloopy1]

ive been there. your point? i didnt notice that these werent the max 3000watt subs, deal with it

[TURBOGSRHATCH]

youa re right my friend!!!

[danthefireman007]

what kinda of amp are u runnin

[killapimp360]

fuck kicker i like this shit i got two 15inch and love them

[spike131113]

Kicker blows, Pioneer is top notch

[premierBASS]

Nice setup!!! 5* cant wait to hook mine up with power. I got 2 premier ts-w5000spl that came out of scott owens f-250

[ebgt302]

thats a nice set up mate,

[PunchersInTheTrunk]

duuuude look at that nasty excursion.

[mwjustic]

how are these speakers really on sound quality? i was thinking about getting one of these but idk. i want it to hit of course and i know these will pound. in the right box and the right amp you should have no problem hitting mid to high 140's but i am more interested in sq. plz let me know. either one of these or i'm getting 2 12 w6's i know they don't hit hard but they really do sound great

[cryrichter94]

they are subwoofers not speakers!

[mwjustic]

subwoofers, speakers, same thing. i was asking a question if ur gonna reply to me about what i was asking tell me something useful don't correct me about words that are interchangeable. damn :)

[cfl990]

ummmmmmmmmmmm a subwoofer is a speaker bud ;)

[Marweezy91]

its OK

[RedandWhite84]

are these subs really 8000 watts peak?? shit....if i had the money, id get 2 of these, with two 4000 watt amps, one to each sub. How are the lows with this 15??

[pvd504]

the low are sick as hell they probably hit the lowest ive ever heard in sub and idk about the 15 i got the 12 the 15 are 8000 maxs and the 12 are 6000 max

[elinford]

@RedandWhite84 you would blow them in like 4 days if you did that. never look at the peak watts. always look at RMS watts.

[magnat505]

@RedandWhite84

i have his 15 inch in my bedroom for movies in home and its just insane when the bass drops to the bottom the hole house is shaking can't say it dont go low since my amplifier delivers 110db at 18 hz and this sub only deliver like 90 if im correct, still not bad anyway :)

[iThaiBox]

pioneer spl champions got the world record of 181 db. but i like solo x better though hahaha

[pvd504]

solos suck never had the solo x but i blew the L7 up and every one i know went throw there kicker like clock work one of my 12's would f*ck both your L5 up

[iThaiBox]

hahahaha so your saying one of your "spl champions" would fuck up my two 12" L5's? LMFAO! trust me bro i would just laugh at you. why would you say solo x sucks if you never have one? one solo x is like 10 of your spl champions. you just made me laugh there

[calvinblinkee]

That's not impossible.

[iThaiBox]

what's not impossible?

[calvinblinkee]

One SPL Champion being louder than two L5's.

[iThaiBox]

Wow are you serious? probally a cvr yeah but L5's nuh i don't think so same set-up. i mean i'm not hatin on a pioneer but i like kicker better than em.

[calvinblinkee]

Let's say, one TS-W5102 in a 3.5 cu/ft enclosure tuned to 32hz with 3500 watts rms against your L5s

[iThaiBox]

ok only way to find out is when you have that kind of setup and mine both cars parked together and go all out in real life shit lets see who's got more spl how about that?

[calvinblinkee]

Nope, Termlab...bass-racing. That's how you do it.

[iThaiBox]

LMAO why not meet up some place and go all out with audiences and let them decide? let's see if one spl champion can really take two L5's. term labs lol i prefer audiences ya dig.

[mwjustic]

i have 2 l5's hooked up to a kx 1200.1. well. had. that was my old system. and then i got 2 12 pioneer ts-w3002d4's 1000 rms each. and right now my set up only gives these subs around 500 rms and they are so much louder than the l5's! and my pioneers are like the little bro's to the spl. go ahead to compare but pioneer spl owner's will own every kicker speaker but the solo x

[iThaiBox]

but the only thing about kickers, they last more than any subs out there. pioneer subs more like a month or two subwoofers after that either they gon sound shitty or broken. you do know that 12 inch L5 have 600 rms if your powering your ts-w3002d4's 500 rms then L5 is gon be louder hahahahaha

[iloveaxxo]

there called spl champions for a reason...one of these beats 4 22in jackhammers in spl

[iThaiBox]

4 of em while 2 solo x can beat a jackhammers in spl. you tell me.

[calvinblinkee]

Now why are you guys switching it to vsing a Jackhammer? It's a pos 22" that does 153dB for $8200 MSRP...

[iloveaxxo]

no im saying one spl champion is better than 4 jackhammers for spl

[iThaiBox]

now that's bullshit!!! which model of jackhammers? coz there's alot. if your talking about the one that cost 8000 bucks nuh i dont think so.

[iloveaxxo]

the spl champion does spl 170 db

1x 22in ($8000) jackhammer does 153 db

therefore using maths, doubling woofers increases db by 6 therefore quadroupling woofers increases db by 12

therefore 4x 22in jackhammer=153+12db=165

eight jackhammers would just beat the spl champion

[iThaiBox]

aight have you been in a spl competition? one spl champion does 170 db???? LMAO you know the record is 181 db and they needed 8 spl champions to get that.

[iloveaxxo]

ok then 1 spl champion does 162

2does 168

4does 174

8does 180

(increase of 6db per doubling woofers)

either way 1 splchampion is vastly better than a 22in jackhammer (153 db)

4 jackhammers are 153 + 12 =165

so 4 jackhammers are slightly better than a spl champion

but one $1000 chamion is still better than 2 $6000 22in jackhammers

whatever way you look at it spl champions are cheaper and better than jackhammers for spl

[iThaiBox]

bro do have any idea how loud is 160 db???? for 1 sub there is no way they can go that much db not even in 140's. i've been to competitions and i heard every single subs eve spl champions two of em barely go 130 on 2 12" subs. the jackhammers are only for shows and not worthed for 8000 bucks.

[iloveaxxo]

firstly i was talking about the 15in sub which is quite a lotmore powerful

secondly if 8 of them as YOU admitted can do 180db, then logically 1 can do 162

third I am a dj so I happen to know a lot about spl's

[iThaiBox]

NOT EVEN A 1 18" SUBS CAN GO 160 db's. I've been to spl drags bro and i didn't see any subs can reach 160 db's by themselves not even a solo x. okay im not gon argue about this bullshit but show me your spl champion as you said, " 1 15" sub can reach 162 db" on a term lab on a video and show me the db numbers okay. then i'll believe you.

[iloveaxxo]

the question is do you accept that 8 of them can do 180db, because if they can using maths, according to the logarithmic equation of db's 1 can do 162, end of discussion.

the only way to say that i am wrong is to say that 8 cant do 180db

[iThaiBox]

the equation you talking about 1 15" spl champion can hit 160 db's really now? come on it's just common sense if the subs hit 160 with 1 15" why would the guys bother to get other brands on competitions? i've heard two 15" spl on competition scored 142 db's i guess equation works right? i mean i was there and heard it and see the score, while Kicker L7's score 154 db's.

[cfl990]

You sound smart since a single sub holds the record at 181 dbs

[iThaiBox]

what are you talking about a single sub holding a 181 dbs?

[cfl990]

sorry a single sub setup hit 180.5 dbs so it is possible it was with a digital designs sub at 27,000 watts

[iThaiBox]

are you talking about DD? lol i love that sub but i doubt it could hit 180.5 by itself no matter what size is it 10, 12, 15, 18 or even 22 inch subs can't hit 150 by themselves trust me. but for me i'm sticking with kickers why? because 1 they last longer than any subs out there. 2 i love the bass and loudness.

[cfl990]

Ya it happened alan dante did it measured on the dash with a single dd and some stetsom amps

[countrysk8er14]

yea it is true alan dante hit 180.5 with one single DD Z series amp.

[tom58c]

Accualy the incriminator 21 can do 150+ db with just one. Look stuff up dude, theres many out there, you've got options out there that kicker will never compare to.

There isnt a kicker out there that has come even close to a pioneer spl champion. You got to try other then kicker sometime, trust me.

[triviumsolo2]

these Pioneers might have a higher rms handling but i dont think they have as much excursion the the W7's

[sexyboy9765]

what song is this

its too tight

[RyAnWeSt218]

these are banginn, these children need to stop thinkin jl audio is so good, they are extremely high performance, in sq maybe, jl's hit but not like these do. But when I get my Orion 15.2's I would be hittin like these, im buying a HO alternator, and deffinatly puttin 2 batterys on em'. But yeah pioneer, and orion hcca's are sharks in the water makin JL look like minnows lol

[realgangsta14]

i think jl audio subs are over priced, the w7 is good, but not worth $900.00.

[RyAnWeSt218]

Thats what im sayin yo, jls hit nice but they are more for sql not spl if your tryin to bump jls are good but not the best

[charleson23]

i bet its loud, i got a pair of the spl 15s tsw8102spls

[nikhil27]

pioneer for life!

[pvd504]

im getting a hd cam so ill have some more nicer quailty vid up soon

[chunkmunk2]

dis is booty dey aint got shit on JL Audio

[pvd504]

JL ant got shit on these u bring me two JL and ill show u that ill put them to sham

[chunkmunk2]

dese speakers are bullshit n mi JL will kill dese speakers wit kno problem..... Nigga we wangs wit bass on 1 nigga get your weight all da way up pimp '

where do u wanna meet so i cn blow yo shit out da water

[pvd504]

any day were u live and what kind of JL u got u got anything posted

[pvd504]

i would love to smoke those JL hope u got the 13W7 and then in ur dreams u might win these are the loudest speakers hiting the world record the rms on these sub void the warrenty on JL 13 W7so any day of the week

[calvinblinkee]

lol Pioneer's world record has been taken over long ago.

[pvd504]

id like to know were u learned to talk at because u sound like a idiot

[calvinblinkee]

I talk no different that you do. Well, not as cocky.

[killaxxx247]

idiot. not even the jl12w7s have as many watts ass these! this subs RMS is more than any JLs max hahaha! you prob just dont know shit about caar audio so stfu and quit actin like your cool on the internet "nigga"

[aft1976]

What speakers have you installed to go with those babies? I got the PRS series components: TS-C720PRS.

[bearsfootball72]

idk i think its just the camera but i think they need a bigger box or a sturdier box 2 should have more output that what im hearing and seeing from that large amount of movment.

[pvd504]

i think the box is big enough it around 4 cu ft. per chamber and i got the ports tuned to about 35 hrz for spl and SQ it just the cam

[mattmeyer31]

wats the name of this song

[pintolisman]

this is the worst song try a millie by lil wayne i bet you get a lot more comments especially with your set up but sucky sound

[SINNERJIM]

sounds amazing dude. What amp are you using to push these bad boys?

[pvd504]

i was using the power acoustik bamf series amps just switched to the massive db series 2009 bang so much harder the the other ones

[SINNERJIM]

sounds amazing dude. What amp are you using to push these bad boys?

[CME911]

Yo Whats the SQ like. I was thinking of getting a New 12" Pioneer Or A RF T2 15"for the same price as the 12. I have one but the coil burned up.

[pvd504]

the best sound i ever heard out of subs couldn't ask for more and there loud as hell

[nicker1992]

they are so expensive!!

nice system :D

[pvd504]

ya they were a pretty penny thanks

[kern417]

I always heard these subs were only for competition...like burp sessions. Didn't know they worked for actual music.

[pvd504]

they sound great and are loud as hell

[SQLTypeX]

those must hurt lol godzilla comin down the road clean/nice system 5 stars

[pvd504]

thanks when i first got them they hurt the shit out of my ears lol the pressure these give off is insane

[Triple6stash]

dope how much were the subs i might get the same system but mabe powerebass amps

[diablo2369]

What's the amp, I can only think of 1 amp off hand 4k peak 2.2k rms at 1, and it's the Power Acoustik BAMF 4000d, i'm just curious to what they are.

[twentyhurtz]

i had one of those, only got it to do a 147.7 tl certified though

[plane45036]

wow i think i just creamed my pants...my dream is to have a nice system (money permit) i just love those speakers...wow i almost thought they were the RE XXX series but wow...perfect

[crascas]

thx. nice system to

[pvd504]

bass i love u by the bassotronics

[crascas]

what is the name of dis song???ive bin lookin for it for ages

[pvd504]

bass i love you by bassotronics

[pvd504]

Bassotronics - Bass, I Love You

[KidWebs]

5 stars man nice system