@WhatUGonnaDoPunkHa You only have to if the rules you're playing by say so. Otherwise you could use a rolled up newspaper if you want. Old school ping pong used wooden paddles... or leather covered paddles. Sponge rubber lets you spin the ball... Usually an advantage, which is why it's used.
allways put the glue before on the rubber and then on the blade but only 5 minutes before put them together. The blade absorves much more the glue, so if you put at the same time the glue, you will loose speed.
does making a custome blade/rubber really enhance your playing if your just a begginer, i mean if your already advance it probably does make your serves/shots better but if your just the casual starter does it?
Usually it won't make you play better on its own. And it can make you worse if you go from say a dead paddle to something with more bounce and sensitivity to spin.
But yeah... equipment plays a huge role on the kind and quality of shots that are possible - but the player has to perform the shot for the most part, with a couple exceptional cases that I can think of.
Cool... if it's something you play regularly - it's a good idea. I'm assuming you're using a "K-Mart" paddle... a normal paddle can be like going from a house ball to your own bowling ball... the equipment can impact the types of shots that are possible. Can't learn what your equipment can't execute. Doesn't mean you'll get better right away (you might even play worse at first)... but it will open up some doors.
Yeah, you need to wait until it appears to be dry. It's not really... "completely dry" at this point, it will still cure. The blade and rubber become two big stickers (and stickers aren't wet) if that helps explain why it will work.
hey dude... im planning to assemble a pingpong paddle.. my problem is, i cant find a tabletennis glue anywhere... do u know other glues that can be used in pingpong paddles? thanks in advance
You can use regular rubber cement if you're not doing tournaments... and your rubber sheet does not recommend against VOC glues. Or you can order VOC-free glue from a table tennis web site... probably can't find that in a local store. I don't know of an equivalent substitute.
You can do whatever you want - it's a good idea to use a combination that suits your style and ability level.
If it's your first paddle and you want one of the WRB type blades... the Offensive CR might be okay (it's kinda flexy), Stiga Energy, or one of the other wood blades.
...729 Cream or Focus. Take your pic on the blade. Andro and Donic make nice ones for reasonable prices. Butterfly is of course good... A bit pricier.
A lot of this is personal preference. Try out what you have for a while. If you don't like it, maybe go for Sriver G2/G3 next time - it will be less drastic a change from Tenergy. A lot of Chinese rubber is tacky, the behavior is very different and the stroke is different. I personally don't use them anymore after the glue ban.
If you want to try more Chinese rubber, research newer ones like FocusIII Snipe, LKT Red Diamond, 729 Higher, Hurricane III NEO, etc.
The rubbers I suggested in the video I think are good for absolute beginners - good control, not bouncy, not too tacky, not very expensive. You're a bit beyond that and I think should use more lively rubber sheets.
Oh... also check out Donic Acuda S1 - pretty cheap from ttnpp.com. It plays very well, it's kind of like a slightly milder Tenergy - better control and nicer for short balls. Loops are almost as strong. 2.0mm would probably work out for you.
Yeah... good choice. I glued up that same combination for a friend, except 2.0mm - didn't have much chance to hit with it though. It's neat looking - kinda reminds me of furniture. Handle feels good.
That blade will be nice for looping... with a good balance of speed and spin - it should be helpful as you're working on your stroke.
Switching from Tenergy is going to be the biggest change though... not so much the blades.
I ordered that rubbers Trascend cream, but I dont know about the quality and the performance of them..I want to put them in a boll tri-carbon is it a good combo?
I'm going to assume that you're a beginner and/or not a club player... correct?
The 729 Cream Transcend is good to start with because it is not a high performance rubber. It will give you good control and let you learn the strokes.
TriCarbon is too hard and fast... not an ideal looping blade, more for hitting. Bad for beginners and most playing styles. Have you considering something like a Timo Boll (Off-), Gatien Extra, Donic Burn OFF- ?
thank you, I am a club player and I am triyng my skills in some torunaments.. actually i´m using a butterfly balsa carbo x5 with tenerhgy 05fx rubbers, but I want to try this rubbers to make my loops and all kind of shots perfect
Coming from T05, you probably won't like it. Maybe Focus III Snipe instead of Cream if you want to try 729.
Based on your play in your vid, T05 will give you problems. Maybe try Sriver G2 FX in 1.9mm. Your blade is plenty fast with good control for carbon, faster would be a disadvantage. Maybe try a wood blade.
After you improve your control and stroke technique, and can generate much more power and spin from your body - T05 and faster carbons may be an advantage.
I spotted the vid you uploaded of you playing. How about you try Focus III Snipe and an all wood OFF- blade? That rubber is a bit more lively than the Cream. I think you should avoid carbon blades for now... it will make it harder to develop your loop.
good stuff - altho with a blade with very soft wood (ex. balsa) you can really mangle the blade edges if you aren't careful. i prefer tracing the blade onto the rubber then cutting it out before gluing. thanks for posting - i didn't realize rubber cement was banned!
The speed, spin, and feel of your paddle depends on the blade and rubber combination. So it does matter.
Rating scales can be a bit hocus pocus. The 0-100 scales I think have too much resolution, where small differences are not meaningful.
They're only good for comparing equipment from the same company, and only if they made an honest effort to make them meaningful... versus using numbers that they think will make it sell. $18 blade... Speed: 140! Buy now!
Besides those ratings, I think user reviews can be helpful... especially if they make comparisons between well-known equipment.
Just don't get anything ridiculous. :)
A mistake that a lot of beginners make is... they end up with a blade that's too fast. "I'll learn to control it," "I'll grow into it," - like it were something to be conquered.
They don't realize why it can be a disadvantage and even the best in the world typically do not use super fast blades.
Hi i just got a table tennis paddle and the rubber still had the thin clear plastic on it, does anyone know if im supposed to remove this before playing and yes i do have the propper plastic ones you put on after you play to protect it. Thanks
You can try to do it over again. There's some risk in damaging the sponge, depending on the glue used. Should be okay if you're careful and peel it off slowly, against the wood grain.
If you have not reglued a rubber sheet before, you might want to practice with a test paddle - before making a mistake with your good one.
For water-based, usually you can peel off the old glue and start over. For rubber cement, just reapply another layer of glue to the sponge.
Forgot to ask... are the air bubbles from the rubber separating from the sponge? Or because there's space between the sponge and blade? Reattaching the rubber won't help fix bubbles from the rubber separating - that's a different problem.
It's nice to have a video tutorial that I could repeat all over again and again. Now I can assemble my ping pong paddle with my own. Thank you for the video tutorial.
I don't go OCD with the glue because it doesn't need to be flawless. The imperfections were not visible in the end result... as long as the rubber surface is uniform it won't get DQ'd.
1 on the blade... and for the sponge it depends on the glue, you can go off its instructions. Often you only will need one coat, but for thinner VOC-free glues it's not a bad idea to do a few. It could be my imagination, but I think it's easier to peel off the sponge when you do this. The Haifu Pre glue recommends 4-10... supposedly more coats adds elasticity. I'm still experimenting with this to see if it really matters.
Fairly. I've been using Haifu Pre-Glue for a while and like it a bit better. It could be my imagination but it seems to apply and remove a little easier.
wow man you know KOSOVA and kosova's federation thats incredible but i asked them and more of them just bought the complete racket so thats the problem they done customize racket ?? bad for me
Ha, no... found them using Google search. Well that's odd - I'd imagine that you could order from elsewhere if you really wanted to, but who knows what the shipping costs would be.
hey speedglue thanks for all your coments and thanks for replying but here in my state KOSOVA (a new state )i couldnt find rubbers and blades only so i must buy all finished racket thats the only choice
Sure, no problem. You might be able to contact someone at the Kosova Table Tennis Federation - fppk com - to figure out where the clubs are and where equipment is commonly purchased from.
I suppose a 'simple' paddle is one that's pre-assembled, like what you'd find in a sporting goods store. They are generally mild in speed and spin, which is good for a beginner - like yours. The rubber is often permanently attached to the blade.
Players get particular with their equipment - and have preferences for blades, FH, and BH rubber. So I suppose a 'good one' is one that's taylored for your abilities, preferences, and style - which usually means a custom paddle.
The blade can be whatever thickness, the restriction is that a rubber sheet cannot be more than 4mm total - that includes rubber, sponge, and adhesive. This isn't something you really need to worry about, ITTF approved rubber by definition should be within regulation.
What do you suggest on a beginner's rubber combo that isn't costly? I like to add spin on my shots so would a double flextra be a good choice for me? I'm open to ideas so please help me out!
ok so im looking at getting new rubber, but i am not sure which thickness i want. 1.9 mm or 2.1 mm , which is better for what, or is it a personal preference? i am not really sure what the thickness does... any advice?
Thicker sponge trampolines the ball more and increases mechanical spin. Incoming shots will be bouncier - so you have to adjust for that... pushes, blocks, etc.
I'm assuming that you're a developing player. I'm tempted to suggest 1.9 on each side... maybe try 2.1 of the same rubber later on so that you can feel the difference... and decide what you like better.
@SpeedGlue729 Yes i am a developing player, but i have been playing seriously for a year now. up untill now i have had no need for a competitive paddle. but to advance further i need one. I am fairly certain i know what i am going to buy as of now. I like Tenergy 64, and Feint Long II or III, i kind of want to put Tenergy on one side and Tackifire on the other, but i am still deciding.
I got a Stiga Allround classic blade and was thinking of getting butterfly flextra rubber on it. Is that a good blade/rubber combo? I'm starting to get serious in the game.
Hmm I was considering Sriver but is it a good mix to have one side Sriver and one side Flextra? Also why do you have to wait for the glue to dry both on the rubber and blade?
You should really do the rubbers FIRST cause the rubbers with glue on takes longer than the glue on the blades. Have you noticed that? Look at if7084 vid on this.
What is the song at the end? That's the same song used for the Boll vs. Samsonov video. The Picture shows Nimbus from Tibhar. It's the first song of that. Thanks. I'll probably get it from Limewire if the DB has it.
I got it from the sample audio tracks from Corel VideoStudio. It's the "HM_General01_Music.mpa" and "HM_HappyBirthday_Music.mpa" files - I have no idea if they have song names or who the composer is.
It depends on what kind of rubber you want. SuperFX is tacky and seems to last a long time. Has sort of a dull hit, characteristic of classic Chinese rubber.
Here's a bang-for-the-buck suggestion: Galaxy W6 Blade / Gambler Wraith 2.0 (both sides). $52 for the combo at colestt. The W6 is one of my favorite wood blades.
I'm assuming this is your first blade for a custom paddle? There's a ton of good ones to start with. I suggest all wood... avoid composite/carbon fiber blades. Get a "Flared" handle if you have no preference.
An ALL, ALL+, or maybe OFF- blade of whatever brand that appeals to you should work.
Few ideas: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Butterfly Timo Boll (the regular one), Donic Epox Control or Waldner Senso V1...
how do u like the transcend cream rubbers? i ordered a couple higher tension 1 rubbers from 729, and they look pretty similar. so i was curious about the performance u get from them.
Cream is decent at everything with good control - I think it works out well for beginners and players that want a versatile control rubber.
Higher Transcend is one of my favorite BH rubbers - the green sponge is not too hard or soft for me.
If memory serves, the green Transcend sponge is a bit harder than the Cream Transcend... and the Higher topsheet is tackier. Cream is a bit faster... Higher has more throw with the tensioned rubber.
np, thank you for your response on the higher tension rubber. just got it today in the mail. unfortunately the glue and knife havent arrived yet, but when they do ill let u know how they work out for me once i get em on the blade
what do you think of blade sealing?i have gotten custom rackets before but i order them assembled so ive never actually glued before. im thinking about buying the timo boll spirit with srivers on both sides. but i might want to replace those rubbers soon so i might want a blade sealing, just wanted your thoughts
It's a personal preference - it helps keep the wood from fraying and it's easier to remove rubber sheets. Some blades do not 'need' it if they are already sealed from the factory or are not particularly fragile. There can be a perceived feel difference, some prefer not to for this reason. I personally do not think there's harm and it's a good idea in general... I don't seal most of my blades though.
They are what the ITTF allows for sponge rubber, chosen for contrast. Some novelty/pre-made products may use different colors.
The reason why two different colors are needed is to help visually identify which side is hitting the ball. This matters because it removes opportunities for deception when two different kinds of rubber are used.
You can get colors besides red/black for hardbats though, which is legal in hardbat tournaments - Reisman rubber comes to mind.
why is it not good to go above a 2.0 sponge at first? i currently have the butterfly senshu pre built paddle and it has a 2.0 sponge but was looking to go to a new blade and 2.1 sponge.
1.5-2.0 w/inverted is good for all-around play and lets a beginner learn the different strokes.
As a style develops over time, it makes sense to then make equipment adjustments to fit the player. Initially, a beginner has no style... it's good to start at the middle and not specialize, using mild, controllable equipment.
Thick sponge, really fast/slow, very spinny/anti-spin rubber, long-pips, etc. specialize at different ends of the style spectrum.
I don't know where you can find rubber sheets locally besides a table tennis shop/club if you have any in your area. And... you can get paddles assembled for free when you order online.
Eventually you'll need to replace the sheets yourself though... hopefully this video will be handy for those that are doing that for the first time.
What I showed is only one method... scissors, rubber cement, etc. can be used instead.
u did a great job very accurate nice rubber 2! Can u tell me have u ever tried GeoSpin Tacky 729/friendship if u did could u plz msg me back and tell me is it good rubber for a looper.
ps. i usually cut the rubber first and then glue it when it is still fresh.
I haven't tried it - it's tacky, moderate speed rubber... usually this type works well for those with brushing loop strokes. For $14... doesn't hurt to try a sheet to see if you like it.
What do you use now... and what made you interested in GST?
Nice job speed glue! You made it sound like you were stammering when you sent the email. As for the speed glue making you sick, supposedly the VOCs are carcinogenic, so yeah, I guess it can! You playing Bud Lite hardbat tourny and U.S. Open in Vegas?
I'll probably go to the U.S. Open... but I wasn't planning on the Bud Lite tourny. Some local players are practicing with their blue paddles... I thought it was funny when I found out what it was all about.
Do you think friendship cream transcend and joola mambo C rubbers on butterfly timo boll all + blade is a good first custom racket?
TDIDDYepic 2 weeks ago
Great video, I like Friendship 729 rubbers
TDIDDYepic 2 weeks ago
I was in school today and i stole a guys tenagy robbers and put them on my butterfly and its AWESOME!!
ST4RzXD 3 weeks ago
Why can't u just use it without rubber why is rubber important
WhatUGonnaDoPunkHa 3 months ago
@WhatUGonnaDoPunkHa You only have to if the rules you're playing by say so. Otherwise you could use a rolled up newspaper if you want. Old school ping pong used wooden paddles... or leather covered paddles. Sponge rubber lets you spin the ball... Usually an advantage, which is why it's used.
SpeedGlue729 3 months ago
allways put the glue before on the rubber and then on the blade but only 5 minutes before put them together. The blade absorves much more the glue, so if you put at the same time the glue, you will loose speed.
CTTlleida1 10 months ago
does making a custome blade/rubber really enhance your playing if your just a begginer, i mean if your already advance it probably does make your serves/shots better but if your just the casual starter does it?
TheCardsfan24 1 year ago
@TheCardsfan24
Usually it won't make you play better on its own. And it can make you worse if you go from say a dead paddle to something with more bounce and sensitivity to spin.
But yeah... equipment plays a huge role on the kind and quality of shots that are possible - but the player has to perform the shot for the most part, with a couple exceptional cases that I can think of.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
i cant wait to assemble my own.. i need to become better xD first so that my parents would allow me to buy my own blade and rubber
useurcamera 1 year ago
@useurcamera
Cool... if it's something you play regularly - it's a good idea. I'm assuming you're using a "K-Mart" paddle... a normal paddle can be like going from a house ball to your own bowling ball... the equipment can impact the types of shots that are possible. Can't learn what your equipment can't execute. Doesn't mean you'll get better right away (you might even play worse at first)... but it will open up some doors.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
wait a sec... i have to wait until the glue is COMPLETELY dry? will it stick? im confused.
tawatayohaha 1 year ago
@tawatayohaha
Yeah, you need to wait until it appears to be dry. It's not really... "completely dry" at this point, it will still cure. The blade and rubber become two big stickers (and stickers aren't wet) if that helps explain why it will work.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago 2
@SpeedGlue729 okay. thanks. :D
tawatayohaha 1 year ago
hey dude... im planning to assemble a pingpong paddle.. my problem is, i cant find a tabletennis glue anywhere... do u know other glues that can be used in pingpong paddles? thanks in advance
kunXV 1 year ago
@kunXV
You can use regular rubber cement if you're not doing tournaments... and your rubber sheet does not recommend against VOC glues. Or you can order VOC-free glue from a table tennis web site... probably can't find that in a local store. I don't know of an equivalent substitute.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@kunXV
tearmender glue
copdex glue
or some other latex based glue substance stuff
TheBobobot 1 year ago
could I use the 729 transcend cream on a WRB stiga blade ?
Develionsphere 1 year ago
@Develionsphere
You can do whatever you want - it's a good idea to use a combination that suits your style and ability level.
If it's your first paddle and you want one of the WRB type blades... the Offensive CR might be okay (it's kinda flexy), Stiga Energy, or one of the other wood blades.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Can you please give me some examples and is the blade also suitable?
andyfication 1 year ago
@andyfication
That blade would be too fast.
An ALL+/OFF- wood blade with 1.5-2.0mm rubber. Maybe Flextra, Sriver, 729 Cre
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@andyfication (continued... I hit post on accident)
...729 Cream or Focus. Take your pic on the blade. Andro and Donic make nice ones for reasonable prices. Butterfly is of course good... A bit pricier.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Do you think dhs hurricane 3 neo on Hurricane King 655 N would be good for a beginner?
andyfication 1 year ago
@andyfication
Not really. Better to use a mild rubber for a beginner.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
thank you, can you pass me some web sites of table tennis equipment to ship in Mexico?
I dont like pretty much postal service, I would prefer tu use fedex, usp, dhl, etc...
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
Oh... I don't know who does and does not. Sorry...
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
sorry is not OFF-
is just OFF
is it okay? I have trascend 1.5mm and friendship 729 super fx in 2.0mm
which is better for you?
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
A lot of this is personal preference. Try out what you have for a while. If you don't like it, maybe go for Sriver G2/G3 next time - it will be less drastic a change from Tenergy. A lot of Chinese rubber is tacky, the behavior is very different and the stroke is different. I personally don't use them anymore after the glue ban.
If you want to try more Chinese rubber, research newer ones like FocusIII Snipe, LKT Red Diamond, 729 Higher, Hurricane III NEO, etc.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@mau2494T
The rubbers I suggested in the video I think are good for absolute beginners - good control, not bouncy, not too tacky, not very expensive. You're a bit beyond that and I think should use more lively rubber sheets.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@mau2494
Oh... also check out Donic Acuda S1 - pretty cheap from ttnpp.com. It plays very well, it's kind of like a slightly milder Tenergy - better control and nicer for short balls. Loops are almost as strong. 2.0mm would probably work out for you.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
hey I ordered a Donic Burn of-
is it a good choice for trascend?
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
Yeah... good choice. I glued up that same combination for a friend, except 2.0mm - didn't have much chance to hit with it though. It's neat looking - kinda reminds me of furniture. Handle feels good.
That blade will be nice for looping... with a good balance of speed and spin - it should be helpful as you're working on your stroke.
Switching from Tenergy is going to be the biggest change though... not so much the blades.
Hope it works out for you!
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@SpeedGlue729 Which is the difference between 1.5 mm sponge and 2.0 mm in transcend?
mau2494 1 year ago
hey dude I have a question..
I ordered that rubbers Trascend cream, but I dont know about the quality and the performance of them..I want to put them in a boll tri-carbon is it a good combo?
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
I'm going to assume that you're a beginner and/or not a club player... correct?
The 729 Cream Transcend is good to start with because it is not a high performance rubber. It will give you good control and let you learn the strokes.
TriCarbon is too hard and fast... not an ideal looping blade, more for hitting. Bad for beginners and most playing styles. Have you considering something like a Timo Boll (Off-), Gatien Extra, Donic Burn OFF- ?
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@SpeedGlue729
thank you, I am a club player and I am triyng my skills in some torunaments.. actually i´m using a butterfly balsa carbo x5 with tenerhgy 05fx rubbers, but I want to try this rubbers to make my loops and all kind of shots perfect
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
Coming from T05, you probably won't like it. Maybe Focus III Snipe instead of Cream if you want to try 729.
Based on your play in your vid, T05 will give you problems. Maybe try Sriver G2 FX in 1.9mm. Your blade is plenty fast with good control for carbon, faster would be a disadvantage. Maybe try a wood blade.
After you improve your control and stroke technique, and can generate much more power and spin from your body - T05 and faster carbons may be an advantage.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@SpeedGlue729
thank you, you are right the T05FX are very fast and I miss more than pass....
so cand u give me a good recomendation? The trascend cream arrived today to my house, which blade do you recomend me to use wiht them?
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
I think the X5 blade you already have is a good choice. It would be kind of a shame to replace T05 already on it with 729 though. :)
Maybe get another?
If you want to try something different... maybe a Timo Boll OFF-, Donic Waldner Dicon, Andro Kinetic Supreme OFF-
Under $40, the Galaxy W6 blade plays very well.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@SpeedGlue729 or what about a Giant dragon-Balsa carbon c2 blade with trascend cream rubbers?
mau2494 1 year ago
@mau2494
I spotted the vid you uploaded of you playing. How about you try Focus III Snipe and an all wood OFF- blade? That rubber is a bit more lively than the Cream. I think you should avoid carbon blades for now... it will make it harder to develop your loop.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
woah that alot of glue O_O u using
aznjc54 1 year ago
good stuff - altho with a blade with very soft wood (ex. balsa) you can really mangle the blade edges if you aren't careful. i prefer tracing the blade onto the rubber then cutting it out before gluing. thanks for posting - i didn't realize rubber cement was banned!
RainmanCT 1 year ago
@RainmanCT
Thanks!
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
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XxL33L00xX 1 year ago
What are the measures of one rubber sheet?
Height: ?
Width: ?
XxL33L00xX 1 year ago
@XxL33L00xX
About 6.5" x 6.5"
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Good video, i just bought Boost TC rubber!
RoyalsChamp5 1 year ago
@RoyalsChamp5
How do you like it?
I'm waiting for Acuda S1 to show up... thought I'd give it a shot for my BH. Boost TC was another I was considering...
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
i was looking up ping pong blades, and also the rubbers.
The blades however were given reviews like 92 speed, and the rubbers were also given speeds reviews like 93.
Doest his mean that it won't matter which blade I purchase, because if i attach the rubber, pertaining to this example, it will be 93 speed?
Sorry if im confusing, but an answer would be appreciated
jspers99 1 year ago
@jspers99
The speed, spin, and feel of your paddle depends on the blade and rubber combination. So it does matter.
Rating scales can be a bit hocus pocus. The 0-100 scales I think have too much resolution, where small differences are not meaningful.
They're only good for comparing equipment from the same company, and only if they made an honest effort to make them meaningful... versus using numbers that they think will make it sell. $18 blade... Speed: 140! Buy now!
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@SpeedGlue729 kk thx
jspers99 1 year ago
@jspers99
Besides those ratings, I think user reviews can be helpful... especially if they make comparisons between well-known equipment.
Just don't get anything ridiculous. :)
A mistake that a lot of beginners make is... they end up with a blade that's too fast. "I'll learn to control it," "I'll grow into it," - like it were something to be conquered.
They don't realize why it can be a disadvantage and even the best in the world typically do not use super fast blades.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Hi i just got a table tennis paddle and the rubber still had the thin clear plastic on it, does anyone know if im supposed to remove this before playing and yes i do have the propper plastic ones you put on after you play to protect it. Thanks
hfgytyfhf 1 year ago
@hfgytyfhf
Yeah, pull those off and throw away.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
i assemble my paddle and it got air bubbles , if i reglue it does the airbubble go away?
aznjc54 1 year ago
@aznjc54
You can try to do it over again. There's some risk in damaging the sponge, depending on the glue used. Should be okay if you're careful and peel it off slowly, against the wood grain.
If you have not reglued a rubber sheet before, you might want to practice with a test paddle - before making a mistake with your good one.
For water-based, usually you can peel off the old glue and start over. For rubber cement, just reapply another layer of glue to the sponge.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@aznjc54
Forgot to ask... are the air bubbles from the rubber separating from the sponge? Or because there's space between the sponge and blade? Reattaching the rubber won't help fix bubbles from the rubber separating - that's a different problem.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
@SpeedGlue729 the airbubble from the rubber and the rubber is attach to the sponge
aznjc54 1 year ago
@aznjc54
Well okay... as long as the rubber did not separate from the sponge, you can probably fix the bubbles then.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Where would u recommend buying all the supplies?
psychosaif 1 year ago
@psychosaif
There's a lot of online stores. megaspin, zeropong, colestt, paddlepalace, gotabletennis, etc.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
do u have to buy 2 packs of rubber or does 1 pack have enough for 2 sides
bladingGunnar98 1 year ago
@bladingGunnar98
There's only one sheet per package
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Do you have to order 2 rubbers when you order joola rubbers or or do 2 come in one package
Jarr3ttsk8 1 year ago
@Jarr3ttsk8
There's only one sheet per package
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
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great video..thank you
restek36 1 year ago
It's nice to have a video tutorial that I could repeat all over again and again. Now I can assemble my ping pong paddle with my own. Thank you for the video tutorial.
blazer2817 1 year ago
nice cutting
wesley621375 1 year ago
Thanks for the video..
ravindrauae 1 year ago
Can you do a new video with your haifu glue?
IcedOrb217 1 year ago
@IcedOrb217
It would not be any different from what I showed already except you apply glue multiple times to the sheet, waiting for it to dry between coats.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
you should spread the glue more even.
SeungRyu94 1 year ago
@SeungRyu94
I don't go OCD with the glue because it doesn't need to be flawless. The imperfections were not visible in the end result... as long as the rubber surface is uniform it won't get DQ'd.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Thnks and 1 more question. How many layers of the glue to u put on the sponge and blade?
IcedOrb217 1 year ago
@IcedOrb217
1 on the blade... and for the sponge it depends on the glue, you can go off its instructions. Often you only will need one coat, but for thinner VOC-free glues it's not a bad idea to do a few. It could be my imagination, but I think it's easier to peel off the sponge when you do this. The Haifu Pre glue recommends 4-10... supposedly more coats adds elasticity. I'm still experimenting with this to see if it really matters.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
Is it the same thing as haifu water solubility
IcedOrb217 1 year ago
@IcedOrb217
Yeah, it's the same thing as Haifu Water-Solubility Bond Glue
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
is that the same thing as haifu water solubility?
IcedOrb217 1 year ago
Is this glue easy to peel off the sponge?
IcedOrb217 1 year ago
@IcedOrb217
Fairly. I've been using Haifu Pre-Glue for a while and like it a bit better. It could be my imagination but it seems to apply and remove a little easier.
SpeedGlue729 1 year ago
yeah its the problem that i dont have anyone outside i mean other states that could bring it too me thats too bad
milotist 2 years ago
wow man you know KOSOVA and kosova's federation thats incredible but i asked them and more of them just bought the complete racket so thats the problem they done customize racket ?? bad for me
milotist 2 years ago
Ha, no... found them using Google search. Well that's odd - I'd imagine that you could order from elsewhere if you really wanted to, but who knows what the shipping costs would be.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
hey speedglue thanks for all your coments and thanks for replying but here in my state KOSOVA (a new state )i couldnt find rubbers and blades only so i must buy all finished racket thats the only choice
milotist 2 years ago
Sure, no problem. You might be able to contact someone at the Kosova Table Tennis Federation - fppk com - to figure out where the clubs are and where equipment is commonly purchased from.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
aha thanks so i will keep playing with my butterfly addoy
milotist 2 years ago
what are the differences beetwen a simple racket and a good one ?
milotist 2 years ago
I suppose a 'simple' paddle is one that's pre-assembled, like what you'd find in a sporting goods store. They are generally mild in speed and spin, which is good for a beginner - like yours. The rubber is often permanently attached to the blade.
Players get particular with their equipment - and have preferences for blades, FH, and BH rubber. So I suppose a 'good one' is one that's taylored for your abilities, preferences, and style - which usually means a custom paddle.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
aha ok i have a butterfly addoy aproved by ittf but it isnt very good i mean i bought it for 22 $ is that cool ?
milotist 2 years ago
If it works for you, sure. If you start playing a lot, at some point you might want to get a new one though.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
hey video is fucking awesome but i have a question -how much is racket thickness i mean something like 1.5 cm or 2 cm or what ??/?
milotist 2 years ago
@milotist
The blade can be whatever thickness, the restriction is that a rubber sheet cannot be more than 4mm total - that includes rubber, sponge, and adhesive. This isn't something you really need to worry about, ITTF approved rubber by definition should be within regulation.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
oh btw just one more question. When the glue "dries" does it become an adhesive?
JackEffenBauer 2 years ago
Pretty much. It behaves like a contact adhesive. It does not bond as well (or at all) until it has dried.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
What do you suggest on a beginner's rubber combo that isn't costly? I like to add spin on my shots so would a double flextra be a good choice for me? I'm open to ideas so please help me out!
JackEffenBauer 2 years ago
Yeah, Flextra is great to start with... classic beginner rubber. I think it runs about $25/sheet.
You might like 729 Focus I - 2.0mm - $14/sheet.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
hey i wana ask something i have a butterfly addoy i bought for 22 $ and its something like 1.3 mm thick is it a nice one ???????
milotist 2 years ago
It's good if you're just starting out. IMO... "nice" is if it works for you.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
ok so im looking at getting new rubber, but i am not sure which thickness i want. 1.9 mm or 2.1 mm , which is better for what, or is it a personal preference? i am not really sure what the thickness does... any advice?
Woolfy 2 years ago
2.0 is the BEST!!!!!
Igotpowned 2 years ago
Which rubber? What do you use now?
Thicker sponge trampolines the ball more and increases mechanical spin. Incoming shots will be bouncier - so you have to adjust for that... pushes, blocks, etc.
I'm assuming that you're a developing player. I'm tempted to suggest 1.9 on each side... maybe try 2.1 of the same rubber later on so that you can feel the difference... and decide what you like better.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
@SpeedGlue729 Yes i am a developing player, but i have been playing seriously for a year now. up untill now i have had no need for a competitive paddle. but to advance further i need one. I am fairly certain i know what i am going to buy as of now. I like Tenergy 64, and Feint Long II or III, i kind of want to put Tenergy on one side and Tackifire on the other, but i am still deciding.
Woolfy 2 years ago
@SpeedGlue729 (my last paddle was from sports authority and cost $50. it is the Brian Pace one. and its just not good enough for me anymore
Woolfy 2 years ago
Well... if you're going to get Tenergy on FH, you might as well get 2.1mm unless for some reason you prefer thinner sponge.
I'm not a big fan of a 'developing player' going straight to something like Tenergy - often it is a liability... and bad habits are formed.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
Should I get the Butterfly Chack should I buy it
Igotpowned 2 years ago
@Igotpowned
Free Chack? I've never used it... probably works fine coming from Butterfly.
Haifu and Dawei water glue work pretty well...
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
I got a Stiga Allround classic blade and was thinking of getting butterfly flextra rubber on it. Is that a good blade/rubber combo? I'm starting to get serious in the game.
JackEffenBauer 2 years ago
Yeah... that would be good to begin with. You might want to also consider something from the Sriver family.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
Hmm I was considering Sriver but is it a good mix to have one side Sriver and one side Flextra? Also why do you have to wait for the glue to dry both on the rubber and blade?
JackEffenBauer 2 years ago
Anybody know what music this is? I need to know. I love it
if7084 2 years ago
Terrific Rubber Cut. I should really get a cutter like that.
if7084 2 years ago
Thanks! Yeah, that cutting board is really handy.
BTW, I reviewed some of your vids. Good job! Thanks for contributing to the sport.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
You should really do the rubbers FIRST cause the rubbers with glue on takes longer than the glue on the blades. Have you noticed that? Look at if7084 vid on this.
if7084 2 years ago
What website can i get a custom paddle assembled free?
burningdragon800 2 years ago
Every online table tennis store that I know of will assemble it for free.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
What is the song at the end? That's the same song used for the Boll vs. Samsonov video. The Picture shows Nimbus from Tibhar. It's the first song of that. Thanks. I'll probably get it from Limewire if the DB has it.
if7084 2 years ago
I got it from the sample audio tracks from Corel VideoStudio. It's the "HM_General01_Music.mpa" and "HM_HappyBirthday_Music.mpa" files - I have no idea if they have song names or who the composer is.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
thanks man i really appreciate your kindness
milotist 2 years ago
where can i buy rubber sheets and how much they cost?
milotist 2 years ago
@milotist
Here are some sites:
Megaspin net
ZeroPong com
PaddlePalace com
AmericanTableTennis com
ColesTT com
Rubber sheets go for around $14-$50+ depending on what you get.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
And are the 729 blades a good choice too? They're really cheap and look nice...
fingersk84life 2 years ago
They're okay... some good blades for the price. Another Chinese company to look at is YinHe/Galaxy, if you want to go that route.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
Is the lightening super fx rubber a good blade from 729? I want a cheap rubber so I can get a better blade.
fingersk84life 2 years ago
It depends on what kind of rubber you want. SuperFX is tacky and seems to last a long time. Has sort of a dull hit, characteristic of classic Chinese rubber.
Here's a bang-for-the-buck suggestion: Galaxy W6 Blade / Gambler Wraith 2.0 (both sides). $52 for the combo at colestt. The W6 is one of my favorite wood blades.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
and is the petr korbel a good starter blade with the cream transcent? Is that a good setup?
fingersk84life 2 years ago
That's another classic blade... a bit on the speedier and heavier end of wood blades. I think it would be okay to start with.
What are you looking for in a blade/rubber combo?
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
I'm looking for an allaround specializing in offense, but has at least 70 control.
fingersk84life 2 years ago
What's a good blade that's 20-70 bucks that I can get so I can also get rubber?
fingersk84life 2 years ago
I'm assuming this is your first blade for a custom paddle? There's a ton of good ones to start with. I suggest all wood... avoid composite/carbon fiber blades. Get a "Flared" handle if you have no preference.
An ALL, ALL+, or maybe OFF- blade of whatever brand that appeals to you should work.
Few ideas: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Butterfly Timo Boll (the regular one), Donic Epox Control or Waldner Senso V1...
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
Yes, this is my first custom paddle. I'm looking for a blade that has good speed and control and looks good with the red and black rubber.
fingersk84life 2 years ago
how do u like the transcend cream rubbers? i ordered a couple higher tension 1 rubbers from 729, and they look pretty similar. so i was curious about the performance u get from them.
Dawggstar 2 years ago
@Dawggstar
Cream is decent at everything with good control - I think it works out well for beginners and players that want a versatile control rubber.
Higher Transcend is one of my favorite BH rubbers - the green sponge is not too hard or soft for me.
If memory serves, the green Transcend sponge is a bit harder than the Cream Transcend... and the Higher topsheet is tackier. Cream is a bit faster... Higher has more throw with the tensioned rubber.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
@Dawggstar
BTW... the paddle in the vid is not mine and I have not hit with 729 Cream enough for a more detailed opinion, sorry!
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
@SpeedGlue729
np, thank you for your response on the higher tension rubber. just got it today in the mail. unfortunately the glue and knife havent arrived yet, but when they do ill let u know how they work out for me once i get em on the blade
Dawggstar 2 years ago
what do you think of blade sealing?i have gotten custom rackets before but i order them assembled so ive never actually glued before. im thinking about buying the timo boll spirit with srivers on both sides. but i might want to replace those rubbers soon so i might want a blade sealing, just wanted your thoughts
Pewpshmear 2 years ago
It's a personal preference - it helps keep the wood from fraying and it's easier to remove rubber sheets. Some blades do not 'need' it if they are already sealed from the factory or are not particularly fragile. There can be a perceived feel difference, some prefer not to for this reason. I personally do not think there's harm and it's a good idea in general... I don't seal most of my blades though.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
that was great healp thanks
CLIFINHO10 2 years ago
thanks man--great video
gibsonjamesi 2 years ago
how come they make only red and black rubber
bigfatpenguin1620 2 years ago
They are what the ITTF allows for sponge rubber, chosen for contrast. Some novelty/pre-made products may use different colors.
The reason why two different colors are needed is to help visually identify which side is hitting the ball. This matters because it removes opportunities for deception when two different kinds of rubber are used.
You can get colors besides red/black for hardbats though, which is legal in hardbat tournaments - Reisman rubber comes to mind.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
water based lube
abitesizedcow 2 years ago
What kind of bladecis that?
How long would you be playing if you were a beginer??
Monkeyredballs 2 years ago
It's a Nittaku Violin blade - a good blade for some people... nice feel, not particularly fast, but I think it costs a lot more than it should.
I guess 'beginner' can mean a lot of things...
I usually equate it with proficiency versus length of time played - although they're somewhat related. So I dunno, what do you think a beginner is?
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
Probadly less than one month or still using first bat would probably work.
Monkeyredballs 2 years ago
why is it not good to go above a 2.0 sponge at first? i currently have the butterfly senshu pre built paddle and it has a 2.0 sponge but was looking to go to a new blade and 2.1 sponge.
dethklok23 2 years ago
1.5-2.0 w/inverted is good for all-around play and lets a beginner learn the different strokes.
As a style develops over time, it makes sense to then make equipment adjustments to fit the player. Initially, a beginner has no style... it's good to start at the middle and not specialize, using mild, controllable equipment.
Thick sponge, really fast/slow, very spinny/anti-spin rubber, long-pips, etc. specialize at different ends of the style spectrum.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
you should sell them on ebay. Just packahe them and sell em'
BUT AWESOME TUTORIAL DO YOU KNOW ANY STORES THAT SELL THE RUBBER. (NON ONLINE STORES).
Thank You
5/5
ChaldeanDude14 2 years ago
Thanks!
I don't know where you can find rubber sheets locally besides a table tennis shop/club if you have any in your area. And... you can get paddles assembled for free when you order online.
Eventually you'll need to replace the sheets yourself though... hopefully this video will be handy for those that are doing that for the first time.
What I showed is only one method... scissors, rubber cement, etc. can be used instead.
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
is that a friendship rubber?
samchoochiu 2 years ago
Yes... 729 is the same as Friendship
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
u did a great job very accurate nice rubber 2! Can u tell me have u ever tried GeoSpin Tacky 729/friendship if u did could u plz msg me back and tell me is it good rubber for a looper.
ps. i usually cut the rubber first and then glue it when it is still fresh.
MikeyHolyDude 2 years ago
Thanks!
I haven't tried it - it's tacky, moderate speed rubber... usually this type works well for those with brushing loop strokes. For $14... doesn't hurt to try a sheet to see if you like it.
What do you use now... and what made you interested in GST?
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
Nice job speed glue! You made it sound like you were stammering when you sent the email. As for the speed glue making you sick, supposedly the VOCs are carcinogenic, so yeah, I guess it can! You playing Bud Lite hardbat tourny and U.S. Open in Vegas?
bhloop 2 years ago 4
Thanks!
I'll probably go to the U.S. Open... but I wasn't planning on the Bud Lite tourny. Some local players are practicing with their blue paddles... I thought it was funny when I found out what it was all about.
"Why are you using that? Bud Lite What?"
SpeedGlue729 2 years ago
nice video!! lol ii want mroe videos of pingpong!!!
naruto1420 2 years ago 3