A sobering clip illustrating the sacrifices of so many for our freedom. Thanks to the heroes who fought against the Axis powers in WW2 are so inadequate. I hope the crew rest in peace.
That was the engine coming off. If you look closely you can see the four blades of the prop as the engine mounts fail and torque twists the engine loose and it trucks under the wing. Those ac had four blades on their props.
That is not a person jumping out of the plane, it is the plane's left landing gear which is housed behind the engine that makes up the engine "pod" . Damage from the hit destroyed the bars holding the landing gear in place as well as the skin of the plane causing it to simply tumble out. From the altitude of the plane it is an 88 shell impact. Watch closely (:13-:14) you see the object comes from right behind the engine pod on the wing,to big to be a person,not the fuselage(where the crew is).
@MrTubbymarshall an 88 shell would do that, the engine is under alot of torque from the propeller spinning as that plane is at full power if it has a bomb load to stay air borne. The shell damage ANY of the supports holding the engine in place, the engine twists and with the air speed, the forces of propeller etc you get what you just saw.
@roaklin thank you roaklin, and i do agree. i was saying that it would be more than a cannon round or two to cause catastrophic failure like this. an 88 shell is more than capable of causing a mess such as this. i usually class an 88mm gun as more than just a cannon, am i right in saying so? thank you for your reply.
The only way a man is likely to escape an aircraft going through those maneuvers is if fuselage breaks up and he is thrown clear. Most successful bailouts were from planes that were unable to maintain altitude but were still somewhat controllable. Even then it was risky; I've read accounts of men either being pinned against the fuselage by the airstream, or hitting the empennage. If you lost a wing and went out of control, the best you could hope for is that you'd black out from the G's quickly.
I had lunch 11-18-11 with 92 y/o Col. Joe Hauser who flew B-26s in WW II. His military record is impressive but also impressive is what he did later in life. Google "Col. Joe Hauser" and you'll see.
@Sporkmater It's probably not a 20mm shell. WWII newsreels were generally pretty poor in accuracy; they were just supposed to represent the general idea of the narrative, or report. Sort of like stock images on modern news stations. Anyway, I don't think that's an 88mm; that would have taken the wing off. Maybe a 37mm. Looks like it got it right in the engine mounts and ignited the fuel tanks. Reminds me a famous shot taken from another plane of a B-26 with it's engine just shot off.
Btw, this is one of some unrealistic part of il-2 or il-2:cod. In many cases crew of big plane (or fighter) dont have chanse bail out. In game this chanse we have always, without dependence from any rotation and position plane in air.
@HappyRogger agree 100%, can't imagine jumping out, deadly situation with plunging rolling out of control badly damaged bomber, G-forces picking up and it's not exactly comfortable inside for any fast exit movement.
It would be great to have IL-2 1946 & IL-2 CloD code better optimized if possible to reflect more reality taking more precisely in to consideration, rolling, spinning and aircraft damage condition for the crew bail out tuning.
@HappyRogger i was parachuting when i was younger, and the cessna 207 went into a spin in only 110 kmt (1 mile is 1,6 kmh) no chanse in hell to get out. imagine in 3-4-700 kmh.
@nolifemerc Yep, I have not too big skydiving experience, trully without spins, but remember some incidents with skydivers (DZ Borki in middle 2000-th), when L-410 went into spin and then broke on two parts, many of skydivers died, those whom has thrown out from the collapsed plane have survived only :(
@ied86 Hi ied, problem with sharing direct link here, its in flickr channel "D. Sheleys", finding not hard, 3 pictures of this accident, if not find - wrote in PM :-)
my grandfather was a gunner in the 391st 575th. RIP to all are fallen military
bk600rrcbr 5 days ago
A sobering clip illustrating the sacrifices of so many for our freedom. Thanks to the heroes who fought against the Axis powers in WW2 are so inadequate. I hope the crew rest in peace.
noonsight2010 5 days ago
cheating
jfujiwara777 3 weeks ago
That was the engine coming off. If you look closely you can see the four blades of the prop as the engine mounts fail and torque twists the engine loose and it trucks under the wing. Those ac had four blades on their props.
repairdroid77 3 weeks ago
@repairdroid77 I think you are spot on there my friend nice job.
ShadowFoxAlpha 3 weeks ago
That is not a person jumping out of the plane, it is the plane's left landing gear which is housed behind the engine that makes up the engine "pod" . Damage from the hit destroyed the bars holding the landing gear in place as well as the skin of the plane causing it to simply tumble out. From the altitude of the plane it is an 88 shell impact. Watch closely (:13-:14) you see the object comes from right behind the engine pod on the wing,to big to be a person,not the fuselage(where the crew is).
ShadowFoxAlpha 3 weeks ago
Wow. He got out quickly!
chanctonbury63 1 month ago
thats a big hit to rip the engine off. more than a cannon shell did that.
MrTubbymarshall 1 month ago
@MrTubbymarshall a hit by an 88 mil, perhaps?
nickmitsialis 1 month ago
@MrTubbymarshall an 88 shell would do that, the engine is under alot of torque from the propeller spinning as that plane is at full power if it has a bomb load to stay air borne. The shell damage ANY of the supports holding the engine in place, the engine twists and with the air speed, the forces of propeller etc you get what you just saw.
roaklin 1 month ago
@roaklin thank you roaklin, and i do agree. i was saying that it would be more than a cannon round or two to cause catastrophic failure like this. an 88 shell is more than capable of causing a mess such as this. i usually class an 88mm gun as more than just a cannon, am i right in saying so? thank you for your reply.
MrTubbymarshall 1 month ago
Jeez... the port engine comes off.
MeasHanSolo 2 months ago
The only way a man is likely to escape an aircraft going through those maneuvers is if fuselage breaks up and he is thrown clear. Most successful bailouts were from planes that were unable to maintain altitude but were still somewhat controllable. Even then it was risky; I've read accounts of men either being pinned against the fuselage by the airstream, or hitting the empennage. If you lost a wing and went out of control, the best you could hope for is that you'd black out from the G's quickly.
justforever96 2 months ago
FLAK GOTCHAAAA!!!!!
nachjagger33 3 months ago
"And now my impression of the 2011 San Diego Chargers season."
SergeantDizzle00 3 months ago
I had lunch 11-18-11 with 92 y/o Col. Joe Hauser who flew B-26s in WW II. His military record is impressive but also impressive is what he did later in life. Google "Col. Joe Hauser" and you'll see.
altooname 3 months ago
I do not that that a quad 2 cm gun would do that. Looks like a 8.8 cm gun or aircraft fire.
Sporkmater 3 months ago
@Sporkmater It's probably not a 20mm shell. WWII newsreels were generally pretty poor in accuracy; they were just supposed to represent the general idea of the narrative, or report. Sort of like stock images on modern news stations. Anyway, I don't think that's an 88mm; that would have taken the wing off. Maybe a 37mm. Looks like it got it right in the engine mounts and ignited the fuel tanks. Reminds me a famous shot taken from another plane of a B-26 with it's engine just shot off.
justforever96 2 months ago
nice♪
cojimatsumoto6840 4 months ago
info from flickr channel "D.Sheley"
HappyRogger 9 months ago
"Louisiana Mud Hen" aka "Circle Jerk"
s/n 41-31896
453rd BS, 323rd BG, 9th AF
all crew KIA :(
HappyRogger 9 months ago 9
@HappyRogger
Thank you for flickr details , I thought there was no happy ending , final sortie of the young brave man crew of the Allied Air Forces ! R.I.P. ;-(
ChampionFx 9 months ago
@ChampionFx
Btw, this is one of some unrealistic part of il-2 or il-2:cod. In many cases crew of big plane (or fighter) dont have chanse bail out. In game this chanse we have always, without dependence from any rotation and position plane in air.
HappyRogger 9 months ago
@HappyRogger agree 100%, can't imagine jumping out, deadly situation with plunging rolling out of control badly damaged bomber, G-forces picking up and it's not exactly comfortable inside for any fast exit movement.
It would be great to have IL-2 1946 & IL-2 CloD code better optimized if possible to reflect more reality taking more precisely in to consideration, rolling, spinning and aircraft damage condition for the crew bail out tuning.
So many bombers crewman did not make it back ;(
ChampionFx 9 months ago
@HappyRogger true try to get out of a rotaiting plane in 400mph, not a chanse in hell.
nolifemerc 2 months ago
@nolifemerc Agree!
HappyRogger 1 month ago
@HappyRogger i was parachuting when i was younger, and the cessna 207 went into a spin in only 110 kmt (1 mile is 1,6 kmh) no chanse in hell to get out. imagine in 3-4-700 kmh.
nolifemerc 1 month ago
@nolifemerc Yep, I have not too big skydiving experience, trully without spins, but remember some incidents with skydivers (DZ Borki in middle 2000-th), when L-410 went into spin and then broke on two parts, many of skydivers died, those whom has thrown out from the collapsed plane have survived only :(
HappyRogger 1 month ago
@HappyRogger How do you know it exactly?And what was happening with them?Flak,maybe accident,or enemy fighters?
ied86 4 months ago
@ied86 Hi ied, problem with sharing direct link here, its in flickr channel "D. Sheleys", finding not hard, 3 pictures of this accident, if not find - wrote in PM :-)
HappyRogger 4 months ago
@HappyRogger Thanks,comrade,on my first freeday,i will watching them.(sorry for my funny english)
ied86 4 months ago