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  • When Ulf Samuelsson is the one holding you back you know you're pissed.

  • you can only take so many cheap shots before you retaliate. Lemieux was always getting cheap shots.

  • Lemieux has a pissy fit and throws his stick onto the ice from the penalty box, Frasier kicks him out of the game, and Frasier is the one in the wrong? Give me a break. I liked Lemieux just fine, but I can deal with the fact that he deserved that one.

  • Hate both of these guys. Too bad their douchebagness didnt cancel each other out

  • @piratebri must be a Cryers fan...

  • Mario was a one of kind player no question........He was also an asshole off the ice

  • @armatageshanks06 I resent that remark, I'm from Des Moines, Iowa, I'm a dual citizen from Toronto. My next door neighbor works for the american heart association and wrote to Mario Lemiuex around 1990. Lemiuex responded politely with a Autographed Puck, which I have this very day. Thanks Mario!

  • @armatageshanks06

    This is a joke, right? Mario is known as one of the nicest guys in pro-sports. Everyone I've talked to whoever met him has had nothing but good to say about him.

  • @armatageshanks06 I don't know what planet you're from, but my aunt is involved with the charities Mario supports, we've met him several times. He's always been a classy, gracious man. Same with Jaromir Jagr. When he lived in the 'burgh he allowed my cousins and the other local kids to come over to his house, play with his dog Luci. He gave them autographs, played basketball with them. Mario had every right to be p.o.'d in this game. Kerry Hairpiece is a dick who deserved to get his ass kicked.

  • I dont even think frasers wife and kids like him!! He pissed everyone off so bad he had to start wearing a helmet! Guys took runs at him pucks to the head! all that. shit calls during canucks rangers playoffs that would nowadays been reversed!

  • @Megadeaf75 you do know that helmets are mandartory for refs and have been for a while...

  • @spypengyn yea because fraser got hit hard! for being a dickhead man! everyone hated him! for shit calls and talking smack. he had to be escorted out of everygame during the 94 playoffs! Police escort! to his car

  • @Megadeaf75 I don't dispute that Fraser was a dick, but they didn't make him wear a helmet because guys were shooting pucks at him. That's just retarded.

  • @mistrbrwn dude he got nailed fuckin look that shit up and shut your fuckin mouth!

  • @Megadeaf75 You're a fuckin idiot

  • Those Penguin sweaters were not the best.

  • @emmers57

    One local anchorman referred to the logo as the "Flying Pigeon". The skating penguin is much, much cooler.

  • @emmers57 really? I like the ones they have here better than the jerseys they wear today :D

  • Should Lemieux have gotten a penalty?  Yup.

    Did Kerry Fraser have a problem with seeing infractions involving players' sticks? Absofrigginlutely. Terrible ref.

  • ok all u shit talkers bout fraser need to stfu like really how many of u accually even reff hockey and know what its like out there so till ur on the other side of the whistle stfu and show some respect u puck bitch panzies

  • It's a shame Lemieux is such a piece of crap person. He had a great career, but it's hard to respect him for being to classless.

  • @sandmonkey322 He's actually not classless... Remember when the commentator said "He does this ALL the time"? Yeah, neither do I. How many times have you talked to him personally?

  • @meazerpwnz He spent his entire career mouthing off and falling back on his team to protect him. He was one of the loudest supporters of the obstruction rule, yet he spent his entire career slashing and hooking away instead of back checking. Not to mention him suggesting a lacrosse sized net in hockey.

    Gretzky was far classier.

  • @sandmonkey322 Aha! That's not exactly being a shit person, more of a shit sportsman! I play lacrosse and football and I am one of the WORST sportsman you will ever see (In high-school). As for the lacrosse goal idea... I think it's great! It would make hockey so much more entertaining! I've talked to him personally and he's actually really nice. =D

  • @sandmonkey322 your kidding me right? hes one of the classiest people in the world he got the city of pittsburgh to stay in pittsburgh your retarded

  • @Pikesburgh He got the city of Pittsburgh to stay in Pittsburgh...? Whose the retard? hahahha

  • @sandmonkey322 you know what i meant, he got the Penguins out of bankruptcy and kept them in Pittsburgh. use some common sense

  • @sandmonkey322

    Are you fucking serious?

  • i wish they would have let lemieux beat his ass

  • What a surprise, Lemieux whining about something. You'd think it was his first time getting a penalty and he acted like a three-year-old. It probably should have been concurrent minors, but when you throw your stick like that, you deserve the gate.

  • Kerry Fraser, the Joe West of the NHL.

  • Fraser you fucker

  • hold that ref down and shave his head

  • a game misconduct and a 10 minute misconduct what kind of game is fraser playing at?

  • haaaaaaaaair boyyyyy haaaaaaair boyyyy.

  • i just noticed it was pens vs lighting and they are playing eachother in the play offs

  • lemieux only wanted to mess up fraser waxed head after he chirped at lemieux that he didn't need a helmut because he had his cartoon hair.

  • fraser was an asshole and a douchebag

  • Nothing Better than Tina Turner blasting in the background

  • kill frazer

  • You would need 3 guys to hold back that big mule!

  • Mario Lemieux.... for as great as he was on the ice...is a complete hypocrit....he says the league should have stepped up their enforcement on dirty plays...yet he pays Matt Cooke's salary...talk about a dirty player!

  • @BRNarmy lemieux say nothing about dirty play next time watch before talk

  • Kerry Fraser talks at length about this moment and his long running "feud" with Mario Lemieux in an all new interview up now on MayorsManor. com (see the podcast tab)

  • Fraser was jelous of Lemieux's flow. Lemieux's hair> Fraser's

  • @skydome29

    Hell, Jagr's hair was better than his.

  • @MrsPaul Not to fraser, and to him that's what counts.

  • mario's teamates should have let him go. i would have loved to have seen 6' 2'' and all 220 lbs of mario lemieux kick the fucking complete shit out of kerry fraser, and so would have about 18,000 people in the igloo that night.

  • @loknloll you mean 6'5 235 right?

  • @MegaScoobyjew that's exactly what i meant. get yourself a scooby snack.

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  • Fraser WAS the worst referee in nhl history haha

  • Lemieux is a fuckin baby, he's forgotten where he came from

  • I remember this game. I hated Kerry Frasier also.

  • Kerry Fraser is and was a fucking idiot.

  • Fuck the whiners Marie and her daughter Cindy.

  • Best ref in the history of the NHL

  • @mbflyerfan you nuts?

  • Fraser was one of the worst referees ever in story of the NHL.

  • @loctop Fraser was more worried about his hair than the game!

  • @loctop i know penguins cant fly but mario almost took flight outta the box after that bullshit call

  • @loctop still is...he always will be

  • fraser always thought the game was about him. he believed the fans were there to see his hair.

  • @Thedudeherenow dude, me and everyone in my family always thought the same. fraser skated like a fag and that blow dried hair-doo was more important to him than balanced officiating. he sucked - as you say, it was all about him. and for us who care about hockey and our players and teams, it was infuriating to have such a jack ass out there making a joke of the entire thing.

    it's no wonder i saw 2 players punch him when i was young. (terry o'reilly from boston and i don't recall the other).

  • @Thedudeherenow LOL HIS HAIR ehahahaaaha

  • Anyone that would say Mark Messier is better than Lemieux in his prime doesn't has no credibility. Lemiex was one of the most talented players to ever lave up a pair of skates and would have much more glamorous statistics if it weren't for the myriad of injuries he suffered throughout his career. The only person who can even be compared to Gretzky is Lemieux in his prime.

  • I can't believe that Fraser is probably going to go into the HOF...nobody really likes him, he was the biggest jerk.

  • Damn he is big

  • Mario Lemieux was a big faggot frenchman. I'll take Mark Messier on my team any day, and twice on Sunday over homo Mario.

  • Messier is the most overrated player in the history of hockey.

  • @Slayer5551

    That says everything we need to know about your hockey intellect (or severe lack thereof).

  • Sorry, #1 player in hockey history still (and forever) GRETZKY.

  • Hes Freakin tall

  • ha ha ha he looks like a drunk 18 yr old girl when she doesn't get her way. i hate shitbird players that turn into even worse broadcasters (Mike Lange is A-OK with me)

  • @BeNards33 Shitsburgh penguins red things lol xd

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  • the leafts are an embarrassment to hockey...fraser sucks, and lemieux rocks the hockey world

  • kerry fraser was piece of filth, a biased crooked, shitdick.

    the way he reffereied the habs and nordiques game is nothing short of embarrassing for our sport.

    I promise to spit in his face if I ever see him.

  • I don't think he likes him

  • Flatout, in my opinion anyone who doesn't like Lemieux is just jealous. Lemieux was and forever will be HOCKEY!

  • I heard an interview with fraser in the radio that said that fraser said to lemieux 4 years before this happened. He said to lemieux that he wasnt the real captain of the team and that coffey was the real captain wich pissed of mario lemieux

  • This shows how bad all captains from Shittsburgh are. They think since there so good that they can do whatever they want. What a whiner.

  • @HappyGoPucky Psh, he handled it like anyone with a bad temper, would. And does your favorite team's captain come even close to the LEGEND that is Mario Lemieux??? Fuckin' impossible..

  • @187ProofESGR my teams captain is messier, so yeh. he is better than lemeuix. sorry.

  • @bbasher79 no even close at all get your shit right lemieux was probably the best hockey player ever and definatley would have shawn it if he nevr was injured and played more then 12 seasons. Lemieux was put on the penguins when they were shit and won 2 cups. im not saying messier was bad but no where close to as good and talented as lemieux

  • @mrkillerbeast100 Messier = 2nd all time in points and captained 2 teams to the cup. Mario Leieux was a slob who ate junk food and didnt want to be bothered with conditioning (his own admission). I'll take Messier on my team in his prime ANY DAY over Mario, thanks.

  • @LetsGoRangers1994Cup You'll lose too. Taking Messier over the most talented player in the history of the sport... smart move. Are you related to Mike Milbury?

  • @LetsGoRangers1994Cup ok lemieux was captain when canada won gold in the 2002 olympics and has the most point PER GAME then any other nhl player. messier played more seasons then him and thats why he has more cups and points. dumbass

  • @LetsGoRangers1994Cup Then you're an idiot........

  • @LetsGoRangers1994Cup

    Messier is only second in points cause played till he was 45 years old, played 25 seasons.....WOW congrats, Lemieux would have broken his records by the time he was 34 if he played on. Loser.

  • biased as fuck announcer defending Lemieux saying Fraser baited him into it...brutal

  • kerry fraser is an ass.... seriously... a possible justin bieber dad?

  • Maryho Lepuiex was the biggest diver end of story. He dove here pretending to be hurt, when in fact he wasn't. He dove many other games when in fact he wasn't hurt or hit. His pussy play, was what made him such a whining bitch on the ice.

    Dive cry Whine. That is all that pussy was good at. Oh yeah he can sure suck little Sindeys balls and work the shaft.

  • How can you have a free hand when you are taking Lepuiexs load in your mouth like you do while after sucking it out of Cindy's ass? Lepuiex dove and cried like a pussy. Call it trolling call it unoriginal but that cock meat sandwich made a career of acting like a pussy.

    Six foot five two hundred pounds of 100% grade A pussy meat! That would be Number 66 Super Pussy Mario Lepuiex!

  • it took 4 players to stop beast mario

  • i wish someone wouldve taken a suspension on kerry fraser

  • @ 2:41 is that Markus Naslund?

  • @yujinaji Yes it is Markus Naslund! Why the Pens never kept him I'll never figure out.

  • LePuke is a homosexual. The best is how bad the homies are ranting about poor LePuke is being picked on. Lepuke, towers over him what a real man he is.

  • @redwineisfine Lemieux = lepuke you found that yourself? dont answer i dont even care

  • fraser sucked in the ahl and sucked even worse in the nhl. certainly one of the worst officials in the history of the nhl

  • ... ... ...

    How pathetic is it that people are arguing that Fraser is a douchebag when Lemieux obviously deserved exactly what he got.

    High sticking

    A Misconduct for throwing his stick over the glass

    A Game Misconduct for leaving the box to argue with the referee.

    EASY CALL

    All this video proves is that Lemieux acted like a whiney B*tch

  • @asp1007 Thats the thing about Lepew fans, they believe he is the best so he should be treated differently. He was. He was allowed to be the biggest pussy in the league and made a career out of. Now he has his prodigy Little Cindy and they both suck each other off with the pussy play. I would say Lepuiux is nothing short of a full blown homosexual on skates, but that would be an insult to homosexuals wouldn't it. How about faking bitch.

  • @redwineisfine what the fuck would some dumb yank in buffalo know about lemieux considering you were probably still sucking on your mother's tit and wearing diapers in lemieux's rookie season when you were about 6 yrs old! Speaking of 'faking bitches' hows derek roy doing?

  • @guinmaan I don't but I am sure some Buffalo is going to be upset by your remarks. Probably not as much as you getting upset that I called Lepuiex a pussy because he and his little bitch sindey are cock pipe smoking fagots. You can get upset and cry all you want after all isn't that what Lepuiex fans do best? Cry cry cry. Doesn't change the fact that Lepuiex was a huge pussy and is shaping his little pussy lipped bitch Cindy to be the same thing.

  • @redwineisfine gee that was a pretty original post. ... why don't you just copy and paste- it's quicker. Hardly upset. Just enjoy pointing out that only shit sack losers troll videos of sports stars they hate and call them names. You have to admit that's pretty fucking weak and probably a waste of time.

  • @redwineisfine ....I mean the fact is no matter what you or I think - these pro athletes have hit higher heights than likely you or I ever will. So it's like throwing pebbles at a tank. I prefer trolling to places where an actual fact based argument against someone's material preferences or beliefs can be made in an effort to enlighten them, and to enjoy a good debate....so get a life

  • @guinmaan And here you are crying about me making fun of the queen cock diver Mario licks your balls Lepuiex. Sorry to rain on your parade but if I don't have a life you must be missing something to. Try looking on a milk carton for it.

    Penguins sucked because of this cock diver and now they are completing the pussy circle of mass vaginic cum guzzling homo erectus acts. Little Sindey loves the lick Lepuiex's balls while Mario's wife is away.

  • you sure like to talk about penis' why are you so enthralled with gay sex? ...and if Mario is 100% grade a pussy meat than how could sid lick his balls when his wife is away?....how could 100% pussy meat possibly have balls?!

    I think clearly what is happening here is that you are recanting your gay sex experiences.

    haaa...your a fucking MANWICH!!

  • @redwineisfine Geez...you like to talk about cock and balls A LOT. There's got to be something more to that lmao.

    Quit having gay fantasies about Lemieux and Crosby. Get your own man-meat, fag.

  • fraser is retarded !!

  • kerry fraser seems like a shit ref

  • Kerry Fraser is a dirty metrosexual bastard.

  • kerry fraser is a flyers fan

  • fraser didn't say anything. He skated past and gave the sign for a misconduct (hands on hips) which you can just see on the video. Lemieux got pissed off by that and then got the game misconduct for leaving the penalty bench.

  • typical lemieux footage, hacked to death. Best player ever. He recieved more slashes in one game than 99 did in a career

  • fraser was a crap official in the ahl and he did not improve in the nhl. one of the worst

  • I like Lemieux's emotion. I have no idea how Fraser has been in the NHL at all. One of the worst.

  • how did fraser remain so long as a ref? he's completely crap.

  • Fraser was in the NHL for a very long time, I never liked him, he always made bad calls and taunted many players.

  • Kerry Fraser: Jackass!!

  • oh i wish he would have gotten to him! how the hell did this tool fraser stay in the league so long. he's such a homo

  • To bad Mario Lemieux did not get a hold of Kerry Fraser. I hate this man with a passion and was glad he retired. He cost the leafs in 1993 and he is probably one of the worst refs in the NHL.

  • @123GlobalFailures sounds like a bitter leaf fan. He missed a call in 1993. One mistake doesnt mean his entire career was horrible.

  • @GunsNRoses0991

    It's not just one call its been many but that was huge error that gave the Kings the win in game 6. Which forced game 7 back in Toronto.

  • @123GlobalFailures FUCK THE LEAFS FOR EVER

  • Mario = Legend

    Fraser = tard

  • Everyone holding Lemieux was over 6 feet and 210 pounds, there was no way Lemieux was going to get near Fraser, the Penguins were gigantic in those days

  • He threw his stick on the ice, that gets you kicked out.

  • Frasier was a scumbag...end of story

  • i think its fairly obvious that the penguins are the only female team in the nhl.

  • lmao...Markus Naslund...

  • kerry fraser is worst ref of all time. he made games fixed his way. plus he hates the pens with a passion especially mario. thxs god he is retiring

  • @pitpenguinsrulez at least he didn't fuck you guys like he did the leafs

  • Boy I would love to know what was said...

  • Mr. Magoo would be a better ref than Fraser.

  • @drab6969 what about nick magoo

  • Now I see where Sid gets it from. Lemieux was just as much of a whiner as Crosby is now.

  • @SnApLiTs Idiot, Lemieux rarely whined. And yeah Crosby whines alot, but it's easy to sit on your couch and blame him for whining, jump on the ice and you would whine at some point too.

  • @1banez

    You're not serious! Lemieux rarely whined?! Bullshit! That's like saying Gretzky rarely whined...he was just as bad as Sid.

    Crosby does whine a lot, and he punches guys in the nuts, and he takes dives, and he breaks his sticks on opposing goalie's nets...did I mention he's a big whiner!

    It actually is easy for me to see him whining from my couch, just like everyone else watching. Stop making excuses for him, he's an adult. Well, he will be once he moves out of Mario's basement.

  • @SnApLiTs Well it's useless to even continue this "argument" you clearly dislike pens, Lemieux and sid. And for me they are heroes, especially pens and Lemieux. But I will only say that always when Lemieux whined, it was for a good reason. The refs cant see everything, they can make bad calls. Lemieux just hated the fact there was so many cheapshots artists in the NHL.

  • @SnApLiTs your such a goof. I take it then your on a peter bondra video telling everyone what a douch Ovechkin is? THINK ABOUT IT YOU FUCKING WASTE OF SKIN! THAT'S HOW FUCKING MUCH OF A GOOF YOU LOOK LIKE! Crosby rarely dives, not sure what your watching. I guess your calling out derek roy, briere and ovechkin on other videos for being divers then?! OVIE is one of the worst divers I've ever seen. Hell he did a swan dive in one game when the supposed stick never touched him.

  • @SnApLiTs So you must be on a mission to cite out NHL whiners then. So you've called out Ovie for being a whiner and diver then?!... I looked at videos of Ovie and I don't see your posts. So whining divers you like good?...penguin whiners bad?

    How do you spell loser S-n-A-p-L-I-T-s

  • @SnApLiTs

    You do NOT dis Super Mario

  • @SnApLiTs when everyone knows and sees how much talent the both had...refs would always let players cheap shot and cheat against em... the only way to try and make it fair when they r on the ice... and its bull... should call it by the rules and let great players be great players....

  • @ObeloViper95

    Did you see Steve Yzerman do a lot of whining? Mike Madano? Joe Sakic? Nik Lidstrom? Jarome Iginla? I hardly buy that refs would "let players" take cheap shots at them though.

    ESPN.com surveyed players in the NHL and one of the questions was "who complains the most"...guess who got 52% of the votes...followed oh so closely by Pronger with 8%.

    There is a huge divide between the gentlemen of the game and the likes of Sidney Crosby and Mario Lemieux.

  • @SnApLiTs LOL. 66 was hacked to death his whole career, look at his top goals. 80% are with him being slashed hooked and even tripped. The same does not apply to your other egs, as great as they were they plaed compared to 66. So much that slashing/hooking ect ect was the only means to stop him

  • @thomasmoonman

    This never happened to any other superstar? Please, that's a bunch of BS. As if Lemieux was the only star that had to deal with that crap every night. Everyone hooked and held each other, that was the game, that's why they changed the rules. It wasn't only the great Mario that was affected by this.

    Again, there's a world of difference between the class of say, a Steve Yzerman, and that of a Lemieux or Crosby.

  • @SnApLiTs you certainly handled that like a politican. I never said they never had to deal with that. I said mario had more. He was just to good to play in a legal fashion. More so than 19 or sakic (both amazing players i love them) but lemieux had something they did not. Mega talent. Simple as that. His creativity skill and power was and is still unmatched. He is french, they are known to whine give him a break. as for crosby, he is the premier NHL player. No doubt

  • @thomasmoonman

    Mario was talented. Mario was also a whiner. Especially later on in his career. A nice little parting give he gave to Sid the Kid on his way out.

    I don't care if he's French, I don't see Lecavalier, St. Louis, Gagne etc. whining...for a group of people who are "known to whine."

    I think you're mistaking my telling you that Sid and Lemieux whined like children for me saying they aren't good players. Two separate things.

  • @SnApLiTs what the fuck are you talking about? What career were you watching? If Lemieux was in particular a 'whiner' like you claim than likely 99% of all hockey players must be. I guess if you were as talented as Mario and had to take the shit and abuse that Mario took ( note the hook to the mid section and chop and the feet Lemieux took before he showed the guy the lumber), and looking back at his era's game tapes, the hooking, interference, tripping, clutching and grabbing looks like...

  • @guinmaan

    What career was I watching? The one where Lemieux whined a great deal, especially towards the end of his career.

    “I guess if you were as talented as Mario and had to take the shit and abuse that Mario took”

    Yes, and as I mentioned, many other talented players would have had to endure that kind of play as well, just like the great Mario.

    “..a retarded fucking gong show rodeo compared to today's game...”

    I agree, it was terrible. But everyone plays by the same rules.

  • @SnApLiTs towards the end of his career? Your talking straight from your ass. Your assumption that many other talented players would endure what Lemieux did is more semantic BS - so answer the fucking question did anybody else ever whine then? Not many players took the physical pounding Mario did because of his size and strength - trying to say that everyone played by the same rules is total fucking BS. Mario took WAY more abuse than most players. Your trying to trivialize this is also BS

  • @guinmaan

    Nope, not really. He whined more towards the end of his career. I hardly think it's BS to think that other players had to deal with the same things Mario did. That's like saying that about Crosby now, obviously that's not true.

    I never said no one else whined. Do others complain? Of course they do.

    You like Mario, and so you defend him, I get that. But, if you're trying to convince me to accept a point, childish name-calling and insults probably isn't the way to go.

  • @SnApLiTs Your a clown. Mario took way more shit than gretzky or anybody else. again your talking straight from your ass. Mario had little protection from teamates or the refs. Gretzky looked frail when man handled while Mario played and SCORED through the physical abuse. mario's physical presence worked for him and against him for drawing penalties. Funny I never saw any Gretzky highlites of him scoring while being tackled 3 times on the same play.

  • @guinmaan

    Alright, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here. This is becoming akin to repeatedly running into a wall. We simply have different opinions, and old arguments are simply being rehashed.

    Neither of us is going to concede, obviously. So, let's just be adult about it and move on, instead of filling the thread with useless insults and rantings.

  • @SnApLiTs Know we won't. Your a loser for even mentioning crosby. That's what I'll agree too. watched every game this year and crosby was put in a prolonged head lock in a net scramble - no call as usual. No reaction from crosby. I did see mike richards have a tantrum at the refs in last pit philly game. Did you get on the mike richards video and call him out? Like I said your opinion is based on your personal dislike rather than any obvious conspicuous behaviour of sid or mario.....

  • @guinmaan ...and like I said I've seen malkin talk back at refs more the last couple of years than crosby...you must hate malkin too? ...and ovie is just plain obnoxious...but then I don't go on Ovie videos and claim he's this or that. Only losers with no class would troll internet videos to slam sports stars, that accomplished more than they did because they dislike them. Think about it loser.

  • @guinmaan

    Yet again, I'll have to reiterate. I don't go around the internet policing all whining. I saw it here, I made a comment. Had I watched a video where another player was whining, I'd probably do the same. Your ridiculous deflections to other players like Richards does nothing to prove Crosby and Mario didn't whine. You calling me names does not prove that Crosby and Mario didn't whine.

    I don't hate Sid. I don't hate Malkin. I don't hate Mario.

    But Mario and Sid are whiners.

  • @SnApLiTs ....and if that's the criteria then there is a awful lot of whiners in the NHL then....so I'll have to ask, You must be really busy on the internet, pointing out all the whiners in the NHL?....or your just picking your spots based on personal opinion as opposed to reality?.....ya that's what I thought.

  • @guinmaan

    Do you even read what I've written, or do you just launch into full defensive mode when you see that there's a post? You're just asking the same thing over and over. I've already answered this.

    Have you even tried refuting my point? All you've done is offer up deflections, ad hominems, and ridiculous rationalizations for their behaviour. You've never tried actually providing evidence for why I'm wrong, and you're right. Maybe it's because you have none. Yeah...that's what I thought.

  • @SnApLiTs Never tried to prove Mario and Sid don't ever whine...just that jealous haters do this kind of shit based on opinion rather than game in game out behaviour on ice in the NHL. In other words, if you focus on what less prominent players do, you'll find the frequency of 'whining' you claim Mario and Sid does is quite common. Hell I'm not the liar claiming I don't hate anybody, when making pathetic statements like crosby learned the whine from Mario...is this a crosby video?

  • @guinmaan

    Yeah, my opinion is on no way based on in game behaviour, like, oh I don't know...this video?!

    My statements are not "pathetic" simply based on the fact that they do not mesh with yours though. Your ridiculous rationalization of your own views based on the idea that I'm a "hater" does not prove your point one bit.

    I don't hate Mario.

    I don't hate Sid.

    But they are whiners.

  • @SnApLiTs you misspelled that, its "winners"

  • @RJBSpin

    Wow, the old jokes really are the best, aren't they?

    Also, if you're going to dust off a lame/overused joke, at least use the proper form of "it's".

  • @guinmaan

    Sorry, but simply insulting me doesn't do anything to prove your point. Claiming I "hate Mario and Sid" does nothing to prove your point.

    I tried to put an end to this tireless debate by trying to simply agree that we have different opinions. You clearly are not capable of that.

    Repeatedly insulting me, (with baseless accusations and via some pretty horrific grammar) instead of making a point, accomplishes exactly nothing.

  • ..a retarded fucking gong show rodeo compared to today's game...the video doesn't lie. Your type of exaggerated take on Mario's on ice behaviour wreaks of a detractor looking for a way to tarnish the player that when it comes down do it even the Gretzky lovers can see that 66 was the best to ever lace them up...which of course you resent. The parting gift to sid the kid comment is just fucking ridiculous and over the top (only proving what a douche bag you really are and how worthless your...

  • @guinmaan

    I think Mario was a phenomenal player, immensely talented. He was also a whiner. Like Sid, a great player, and also one who complains a great deal.

    I don't resent anyone, but you're obviously seeing it through the eyes of a Mario fan, and taking my calling him a whiner very personally.

    It's pretty evident by the personal attacks towards me (you actually called me assclown 3 times, lol), misconstruing what I have said, and rationalization for his behaviour in your posts.

  • @SnApLiTs ...because you are an assclown. Your claims are exaggerated, plain and simple. You never addressed my questions. Apparently Mario and Sid are the only whiners to ever play in the NHL. Funny how you feel you need to make such a point of this, why is that I wonder? Funny how on this Lemieux video you feel so strongly about this, but not only that you feel Sid is the same because Lemieux showed him how to be a whiner. That is a underhanded comment from a hating shit bag....

  • @guinmaan ....who isn't fooling anyone posing as the admirer of talent who resents nobody. How the fuck could you claim to be a neutral messenger of the facts making a pathetic punk assed comment like that? Like that fucking diving, cheap shot artist Ovechkin doesn't whine up a storm then?...or many other players? I'll ask again what fucking league are you watching? Your worthless opinion is clearly a shot at Mario and Sid. 

  • @guinmaan

    What questions am I not addressing?

    “Apparently Mario and Sid are the only whiners to ever play in the NHL.”

    Nope, never said that.

    Funny how I need to make such a point of this? Funny how you need to so vehemently disagree.

    It's my opinion, just like you have yours. Your a Pens fan, so I understand, but as someone who isn't a Pens fan, I have a little different perspective on these things.

  • @SnApLiTs Funny how you are such a douche bag that you made a point of mario bestowing his wisdom of the whine (not wine) to Crosby. I can safely assume that if you believe Mario and Sid are not the only whiners to ever play in the NHL that you are all over the internet pointing out all the whiners.....thus showing the world your on a mission to cite this out and that you really aren't a hater who only trys to bring down some of the greatest players to ever play. douche!