christianity made higiene conditions the worse, look at the classical times and look at medieval ages, now compare the health of the people at that time.
look at how smart were the greeks and when missionaries came, everything was destroyed.
look at the alexandrian library, hellenic temples, and so on, all destroyed thanks to christianity...
@jin54363 LOL very funny, dont just say anything, people are not innocent now to listent to your unrelated connections,as time goes population, industrialization and polution is becoming more, just compare population in middle ages and now, it is almost 100 times or more,people's health conditions are becoming worst becase of these factors,not because of christianity,infact you can find more hospitals started by missionaries,which are providing health,not by any other culture loving people
i compare population in classical ages, not in middle ages where everything turned dark.
and actually it was the missionaries and the inquisition that brought this darkness into people's lives, ignorance and arrogance, this caused hunger and disease.
in classical ages, people had better condition than middle ages, and in Japan feudal time, they already had dentists and higiene conditions.
@jin54363 population growth,massive industrialization and uncontrollable polution is decreasing peoples health not missionaries,around the world missinaries are the people who shared the education for somany people,it brought light to their lifes,Japan's major religion is buddism(60%-70%),i think Buddism is not a japanees religion,if buddism can go from nepal to japan why not christianity?the urge for acquiring power over pacific worstened conditions in japan in moderen times,not missionaries
i'm talking about the inquisition, the missionaries are doing a wrong job, making people believe in what they believe, why don't they keep the beliefs to themselves? buddhism is an education, christianity never brought education.
@jin54363 in Nepal and India you can see so many schools, hospitals started by missionaries,not by any other people,this is fact around the world,most of the cities will have school names starts like Saint Peter's, Saint Anns, Baptist Mission.. school and so on,people from all religions are studying there not only christians,i think this is the way to give people education not with just meditation,so many people got education through christian schools and colleges,just see people around u
@jin54363 just read history most of the famous inventors of our times are either christians or jews,if you see around you at any moment of time you can see the things invented by them,this is known fact,the essence of christianity is love of god and helping,serving manking,just think why only these people contributed most to the science and technology?the hate spreadding against missionaries is just a coverup for some evil ideologies,by using terms like culture,tredition or some other sentiments
dude it does't matter if they were christan or jews, they did not convert anyone to their religion, the love of christianity only brought multiculturism, and that is a bad thing, why do you think tokugawa ieyasu banned christianity from Japan? why do you think so many people think witchcraft is evil and all that stuff, society is what it is today (a load of brainwased sheep) because of christianity or islam, and TV programming, and media.
people are fuckin stupid, they still think that christianity unified europe, LOL
why do you think Tokugawa Ieyasu banned christianity from Japan in feudal times? it was to protect their culture, look how many hellenic temples were turned into sex houses, or gambling houses, or churches, look how many hellenists were presecuted, and look how many viking fought to protect their lands because they knew christianity would destroy their culture, and force them into theirs.
Christian missionaries destroying hinduism in india!!!They have destroyed many tribes and religions allover the world & killed millions over centuries ....
@Smitalovesyoga please know why people leaving hinduism,first know about sati,untouchability,child marriages,subjugation of woman and all other attrocities are part of that grate culture,after christianity came to India indian society changed so much, sati was abolished by William Carry(a missionary)and Rammohan Roy in the 1834,dalits got entry into temples,villages and society once christianity came to india,education was made accessible to all castes only through schools started by them only
@Smitalovesyoga why only bramhins has to be priests in temples,why not other caste people,what is there in Manusmruthi?actually in India only 2% are christians, 15% are muslims, most muslims are muslims are converted from hinduism,before british came to india, all your temples destroyed by them not by christians,infact what ever you are enjoying just becasue of their efforts only,british only did business in India,missionaries are the people who developed a lot,just think before talking nonsense
do we think these people are civilized and living good life?where they are having education,health and other necessary things? which are very important for human life?we won't help people and criticise those people helping others, we are living very good life, but what is the motivation to help people, as an individual we are selfish, there should be some motive to help people that is Christainity, missionaries changed so many lifes, just don't hate missionaries just because they are from WEST
@prabhubpk who are you to judge whether someone is living a good life or not ? Their values and how they live their life is none of your business . Christinianity has forced its way into other peoples' lives . Theyre never asked to be Christians but forced to convert to God and his bitch ass of a hippie son . Look how many indigenous cultures were destroyed and the people enslaved in the name of Christianity . What about the Taino ppl in Cuba ? Thanks to Christianity theyre all gone .
@ryanscottweise why don't you live like them, if you like their culture?now your life is good and you will talk anything,but you will never help anyone or even think of that also, i leave it to your sense and spirituality,just count how many schools, hospitals and other organizations started by missionaries,they are able to help people because they are not like you,the Taino's whom ever become Christinians living very happyly in all south american,don't just try to blame christianity
@prabhubpk Your definition of helping others is cultural genocide and mass murder . So spare me your holier than thou bs and how God gives a rat's ass about anyone . I'm so glad I'm not a Christian anymore . Thanks to my decisions on returning to pure spiritualism I feel more free than any Christian ever could .
@ryanscottweise you are saying to leave them to live like animals?like people are living in middle ages?the genosides and mass murders are happened because of politicians and perverts,when it comes to culture no one will leave their culture unless it is barbarian,people are changing towards good,i think this is hurting you,your language showing here what is ur spirituality and way of life,please think of that spirituality which is degrading you as human,helping is important not talking nonsense.
Dude, hasn't anyone realised this footage is from one of the old 'mondo' films. As in the hilariously sensationalist extreme documentaries from the 70s that were really inaccurate (but also very gross and funny). I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with your point, I'd just like to point out that this film is not from a reliable source whatsoever.
If you interested ... and not maniacally in opposition to God ... do google searches on: Do Missionaries Destroy Cultures? ... and: William Carey: A Missionary Who Transformed a Nation
It is just so sad that these ruthless missionaries would destroy the culture of cannibalism and the stoning to death of children who accidentally wandered into the sacred places of their villages. And notice how they quickly destroyed the culture by making them wear western clothing? Oh, that's right, they didn't.
if you believe in the supernatural, big if for a lot of you i understand, praying to one god is a tremendously liberating thing as opposed to praying to hundreds and being afraid that by praying to the sun god you'll piss off the fertility god and you won't be able to have kids or grow crops. tribal people are animists they believe in spirits and your self righteous intellectual elitism is insulting to their intelligence.
@greenmonk Praying to no gods is better. While others pray to an invisible sky daddy, I am having fun, knowing that I won't be punished after I die. Fear or no fear?
most of these comments are noble savage racism. you all assume that because they're tribal, that they're pure and innocent and the christians are raping them. but that's not the truth. tribal people can be bastards too. they believe in gods and have religion. your atheist comments must extent to them as well. this is not subjugation it is one religion working better for a group of people that believe in the supernatural.
@greenmonk the voracious need to Christianize the world is what is so repugnant about missionaries. Of course these people are not perfect, neither are Christian westerners! It's not "noble savage racism", it's an appreciation of letting ancient people be who they are. The idea of introducing sexual shame, the fear of hell, the obsessive worship of a foreign savior figure from a desert on the other side of the world to a people in the middle of a remote jungle is utterly disgusting.
Christianity is gross. It takes away all of the pressure to solve this world's problems by deluding its followers into believing that everything will be better in some make-believe afterlife. No wonder Western Civilization continues to fuck the environment with no end in sight.
These mother fucker abrahamic religions do everything they can to destroy the natural untouched world. The two chief Abrahamic religions Christianity and Islam are the two biggest destructive forces the world has seen. Even the Mongol hordes were not as destructive as these two religions.
@thezinkcoo have to agree with you. So true. They go everwhere to spread their imperfection and infestation upon humanity to believe in a bearded old man in the sky who had anger issues.
one of the most common reasons of war in subsaharan africa has been missionarys giving weapons to tribe if they convert to their religion. and then they encouruge to attack and invade the nabouring tribes and force them to converte as well. missionarys like to paint them self as humanitarians, but actualy the chatolic aid, is not missionary organisation. many atheist allso may work in aid that might be supported buy religion, but moslty, secular aid has better effects.
so depressing, it really saddens me that half the world was made a cultural wasteland by the onslaught of the abrahamic religions, and they're not content on leaving it at that! Fuck christianity!
@19t86 last time I checked every single catholic I know considers themselves christian. Christians and catholics...same shit different diaper. The "christians" you are referring to do the exact same thing as catholics. How about you leave other cultures alone.
these poor backwoods american maggots, they live in the richest society on earth yet still hang to their religious idiocy and even spread their sick christian bs to others
how dare those missionaries provide these people with food and shelter and tell them that they have hope and give them courage to do something great that's horrible
@extremeeXrement1 More like how dare they give them things they need but slip in an ideology slathered in the Trojan horse of goodwill. Religion is useless, it infects the ignorant, it looks for more victims here.
@WisenedGnome christianity is not a religion its knowing Jesus and the father after recieving the holy Spirit being born agian , i am not ignorant i love god and thankful im on his earth with his life in me.
@brakenlaker1 sure. and buddhism is being one with buddha and knowing truth that buddha is the highest from of truth there is. and hinduism is not religion, its the way of knowing krishna and other avataras of vishnu. and shinto is not religion, its the way of Gods. its being one with Amaterasu. you can play word games all you want. i know them all.
@extremeeXrement1 how dare those missionaries provide these people with food and shelter and tell them that they have hope and give them courage to do something great that's horrible"
If the missionaries just went in with food and shelter WITHout the ultimate purpose of converting them it would be just fine but when they lay on their own values, foreign to these people, it also affects their belief systems and crumbles their cultures and the proof is already there.
@Matthew1944 there culture is kind of the problem like in africa for example peole have to many kids thats why there so much starvation culture is great but in some cases it only adds to the issues
The abrahmic relgion is a major problem and pain in the ass, from judaism to islam, the one thing not change is that he is a jeslouse god and forbits of other faith leaving the world in wars.
@Ochn77 because what transpired in my life are testiments to the power of God, testiments to the Truth of Jesus.
Then why don't you save it for church. You'll have a receptive audience of like people there. Your story isn't that unique outside of church. Everyone at one time or another has had a hard go of things and you are just one of many.
and i know what you're thinking. why do you deserve it. you've been better. well... how bout this one... why did i deserve to be deserted by 'cool' ppl everywhere now that i'm not like them.
but why did i deserve it? because through sacrifice i promoted some peace between wicked men in gangs.
you should go help the ppl on this video you're so 'passionate' about. you might recieve faith too.
i'm sorry for you that you're not interested in what's transpired in my life
@Ochn77 No Och, I'm not thinking any of those things. I don't care if I'm with "cool people". I have my own path and it's a narrow one wherein I try to be the best I can be. I know right from wrong and I stick with right because it's the way to go.
Why do you feel the need to tell others what has transpired in your life? Everyone has a story.
@Ochn77 here you are QOUTING SCRIPTURE to prove a point when your original point was to say religion is a joke
Shows how little you know, Och. Jesus teachings are one thing. The drivel written by Paul is another. Christianity as it is today is Paul's invention. Jesus was born and died a Jew who didn't preach to Gentiles and called one Gentile woman a dog. What you claim are your roots are in fact, a completely different religion - one that Jesus was part of and you are not.
here you are saying it's all a fairy tale but defending Jesus's teachings. liar? younger christians are battling that ourselves while at the same time daily dealing with persecutors like u.
you sit here and start an argument, just to argue and be rude. you have no beliefs, convictions or issues with this subject at all.
you're only instigating for the sake of instigating.
you're weak minded and weak souled.
i'd really like to see the day where someone like you actually did something.
@Ochn77 Jesus teachings are one thing as the Ebionites will tell you. The fairytales come in with the man-god, virgin birth and sacrifice of a human being for others sins on the part of a Torah upholding Jew where none of these concepts existed. All pagan fairy tales.
@Ochn77 Jesus teachings are good, Och, as the Ebionites attest to. The fairy tales come in with virgin birth, man-gods and humans sacrificed for the sins of man on the part of a Torah upholding Jew in whose world none of these concepts exist. Those are the pagan fairy tales.
And you can quit with the persecution. It doesn't wash.
As far as your other comments - They don't really deserve a response.
@Matthew1944 if you want to know what i've been through and experienced that made me into a man of faith when all i was was a drinker, toker, womanizer, and a complete cynic that was about to be affliated with gangmembers and chopshops.. email me. otherwise, i'm not trying anymore.
all i wanted to do was help you because i know what hell is like. but i also know what heaven is like.
i don't want to hurt you at all... but you bet your ass that there's been times i've been in a bar and heard someone say something bad about Jesus and i stood up for Him.
if you can't believe in God rewarding you for doing that, then you're not worthy of having a child. because you literally would be believing that that kid doesn't deserve having praise for being good.
You don't speak for God, Och. I doubt that he's all that impressed with your religion either since it doesn't represent what Jesus taught anyway. Think he likes the idea that Jesus message was hijacked and changed by Paul and here you are, spewing Pauline paganism.
So you're stating that Jesus was a God in his own right, in a relationship with is father, God? Then we have another problem, Och. God stated " I am the first, I am the last, and besides me, there is no other god" and "no saviour"
if you saw the sunset i saw..you'd believe as much as i do. and if you spoke to Jesus the way you speak to me about Him... you would very much wish you hadn't.
i'm through with you. if you want to have a conversation about the miracles i've seen and how i speak to people that are not acting like a indictive troublemaker that actually listen to me, then email me.
i'm not going to play your stupid little online chat game to where you try to spit humor at my conviction in my face.
@Ochn77 do i really need to qoute a man that said "I am God"
John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not touch me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ “
you'll never be in Heaven insulting God. your very existence is because of Him. every bit of your thought, life, emotions, are from Him. and you insult Him.
i said i don't need your acceptance, but if i was in front of you... i would have a hard time not hurting you for insulting me for knowing Truth.
you will never find someone to explain what i feel and fight.
you will never find someone to explain how Jesus gives me peace and shelter.
@Ochn77 You are a silly rabbit. You've been spewing out Paul's dogma and never once have you quoted Jesus, have you. Have you checked out Mark wherein Jesus gives advice on how to achieve eternal life? It seems all one needs to do is to follow the commandments and live a moral, righteous life. He didn't ask the man to believe in him. He advised on prayer too - to pray directly to God and God would know what one needed.
those priests were wrong. they were supposed to walk away. you forget that the synagogue priests during the time of Jesus were called vile snakes by John the Baptist.
...here ya go...
"Pope John Paul II has emphasised that Catholic priests implicated in the killings must be made accountable for their actions."
no christian is supposed to kill. and out of the billions of other christians out there.. they would disagree with what the priests did ALSO!
@Matthew1944 More died at the hands of Christianity than there every were martyrs.
you can blame that on yourself.
while i preach nothing but love and Jesus giving you the ability to go to Heaven, that's it. with respect and kindness, i tell you the Truth. with grating teeth you snarl at me and spit in my face because you don't want to sacrifice up your sins and perversions. you want them. ....so He lets you have them.
@Ochn77 I have never insulted God. I just think your religion is a bunch of pagan drivel. Most likely God doesn't think much of it either since it doesn't represent what Jesus taught anyway.
Ah, yes. The persecution card. I was wondering when you'd be pulling it out. Handy, isn't it? When someone doesn't go along with your dogma and calls you on it, it's always persecution, isn't it.
.........
if you hurt or persecute me, that means i'm stronger in Heaven.
you will never UNDERSTAND what i've come to know and feel.
but you can try to believe it. and if you ever come around to actually having some faith because you walked your logical ass down to a mission and spoke with them and found out how loving they are.... you may begin to have faith enough to experience a little of the compassion Jesus has that i have experienced.
Jesus is real... whether or not your logic wants Him to be.
@Ochn77 Jesus may well have been real but he was executed, died and remains dead.
Minucius Felix (160-250 C.E) wrote:
"For in that you attribute to our religion the worship of a criminal and his cross, you wander far from the neighborhood of the truth, in thinking either that a criminal deserved, or that an earthly being was able, to be believed God...."
@Ochn77 peaceful, miracle working, apostle that walked ALONE with only Jesus as his friend, AND COVERTED HALF OF EUROPE..."
Are you talking about the Paul who never even met Jesus? He invented the pagan tale of a man-god, virgin birth and sacrifice of a human based on paganism. It spread to Rome and grew there and was then propogated by the sword, Och. Not very pretty.
you're never going to understand why Christians evangelize until you have enough faith to understand that they are bringing people that want salvation the key to have it.
i used to mess with pagan beliefs, i used to live by logic, i used to call the church wrong, i used to think God doesn't want people to act like christians and more just normal hohum daily good loving life.
...before i experienced what no shrink can explain. as well as the people that stood around me and felt it too
@Ochn77 you're never going to understand why Christians evangelize until you have enough faith to understand that they are bringing people that want salvation the key to have it.
you actually sit there, doing nothing to help anyone, preaching on some bs soapbox that i would forcefully remove you from if i was there in person, about things that you don't help or hender.
you're literally, doing nothing.
you don't feed the homeless.
you've never spoken to a truly faithful man in person.
you've never done anything but live a pleasurable existence and do whatever you wish
@Ochn77 -you actually sit there, doing nothing to help anyone, preaching on some bs soapbox that i would forcefully remove you from if i was there in person, about things that you don't help or hender. you're literally, doing nothing. you don't feed the homeless. you've never spoken to a truly faithful man in person. you've never done anything but live a pleasurable existence and do whatever you wish
You really are a foolish wonder. Do you consider yourself to be psychic too?
i was a messed up person too. hating everyone, insulting whoever i wanted, being with whatever woman came along, just going right along with you 'logical and pr'd' little culture that can't bend their knees to save a homeless man.
you actually THINK! that there's not consequences for you to sit there and insult God, say you're better than christians who fight for you, and then go to a bar and crack jokes at EVERYTHING even things that you just think is wrong.
@Ochn77 was a messed up person too. hating everyone, insulting whoever i wanted
You don't appear to have changed all that much either, judging by your last four or five posts. I would suggest anger management classes. If "he" showed you the truth in sunsets, dreams and visions, I would also suggest an immediate trip to your local mental health unit for some medication and psychotherapy.
@Matthew1944 you told me it was a fairy tale. that was insult enough. and pshychics don't exist. prophets do, and i don't consider myself one because while for a while, through what i was experiencing, i was speaking with God in several different ways. what He showed me was the Truth. the perverse thoughts i have are normal thoughts that extend from this culture. the same culture that will sit here and make jokes about every serious aspect of life.
@Matthew1944 this right here is why you don't know God. because you call any real experience and faith, crazy, while at the same time you'll say there's no proof. you are a complete fool and perverse in every aspect of the word.
missionaries give thier lives up to God, helping others, while people like you find reasons that they shouldn't do what you never had the heart to.
i know what you need. you need to see with your own eyes.... well.. go speak to a man of faith and find out
@Ochn77 missionaries give thier lives up to God, helping others"
And the helping others sounds really good, except the main purpose of this "help" is conversion and generally when they leave, they have destroyed ages old traditions and beliefs of their "victims" and left their civilization in shambles. This has been shown over and over and if you'd like, I can give you a very length list of tribes affected in this way.
@Ochn77 The "give their lives to God, helping others" sounds good until you realize that the ulterior motive is conversion. Everywhere they go, when the missionaries move in, they demoralize and destroy ages old traditions and beliefs and when they leave, the civilization that had been thriving, folds. I have a very long list of just civilizations in Africa that have been destroyed in just such a fashion.
@Matthew1944 I have a very long list of just civilizations in Africa that have been destroyed in just such a fashion.
if you're going 2 suffer many many times worse than your slight suffering here on earth, wouldn't it be BENEFICIAL to start to believe? i would really likje 2 see u go over 2 Rwanda and tell all the converted christians there 2 go back to living n huts and believing n spirits..... after they stopped messing with that stuff, they found peaceful a God... instead of fighting
@Ochn77 i would really likje 2 see u go over 2 Rwanda and tell all the converted christians there
More recently the BBC aired:
Priests get death sentence for Rwandan genocide
BBC NEWS April 19, 1998
A court in Rwanda has sentenced two Roman Catholic priests to death for their role in the genocide of 1994, in which up to a million Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed.
@Matthew1944 but you won't. you will just sit there wanting to know the Truth without doing anything to deserve it.
you want some of my miracles? ok... how bout Him telling me how to help someone before i know any details about the person.
how about the tent city in F. Worth that i helped out. the man was told by God that all he needed was bibles and to work. through his work helping those people, he had a man let them be relocated to private land that was legal.
the man was told by God that all he needed was bibles"
I don't see how that can be since the God you profess to believe "stated" that not one word must added to his law. Your lot added the NT - direct disobedience. I isn't logical that God would ask for edited bibles.
@Matthew1944 you're playing semantics to try to win a friggen argument when you're missing the entire point of me talking to you.
you literally want a loving God to not allow people that need faith and hope and love, to not have any word of the Lord, that would raise their spirits because some people added to it..... Gospels. they were scrolls found in the DeadSea that spoke about their experiences of living with Jesus himself.
and because you don't to know any of my miracles....
@Matthew1944 the people there prayed for generators the day before he brought them to them.
miracles and messages are Truth, given to faithful people to help those in need.
those blessings are something that never happen to people that want to insult their God. the only God that exists.
and if you want to know specifically why i don't need psychotherapy, you'll go ask some of the people that would have conversations with me and feel the stamp of a foot when they wanted to not believe me.
@Matthew1944 what i went through was a progression of things that happened that i couldn't control. He saved me and i grew in faith with that saving. but then i messed up because i wanted to go back to being another person like you.
you don't ask your God for proof when you aren't willing to worship Him.
and if you knew the love He's shown me, you would understand what the meaning of worship is.
there are thousands of people that have had real miracles happen to them.
@Ochn77 there are thousands of people that have had real miracles happen to them.
Lots of hearsay - no documentation. Generally, it's a miracle if a wish happens, and "God's will" if it doesn't. You are certainly operating with a lot of holy baggage.
u won't know my miracle if you're going to say there's know documentation but then not WANT to hear it. there IS documentation of miracles. and plenty of it. do u really think thousands of people would convert at a drop of a hat just because? do you really think christianity spread across the globe because it's only government?
do u really think all of tribal Europe that battled Julius Ceasar to stay pagan... turned christian 4 no reason?
@Ochn77 u won't know my miracle if you're going to say there's know documentation.
There is a man, and I'll check for his name for you if you want, who is offering quite a large amount of money for a fully documented miracle - like in a scientific study or a medical journal. In 20 years, no one has taken him up on it. You want to try.
Christianity spread across the globe by the sword - killing all its opponents, Oc.
@Matthew1944 can you even concieve of the faith that it took for the missionaries in this video to go back to a location that 5 of their brothers were killed at to help the people have faith so they can live after death?
can you begin to concieve of the idea of why those people had doubts in their own hedenistic beliefs after speaking with those missionaries?
and when you do... can you surpass me in my struggle with my faith, knowing that people like you get by with insulting Him ....
@Ochn77 -concieve of the faith that it took for the missionaries in this video to go back to a location that 5 of their brothers were killed ,,,
Doesn't bother me at all when I think about the murders over the last 1700 years of others at the hands of Christianity.. One would think that once a few of their fellows were killed, they'd have the brains to stay away. Play in the traffic - you get hit.
@Matthew1944 can you understand why He wants you to believe in Him when there are so many problems in this world?
can you BEGIN to say you're better than me when my entire plan for my life is to break free of the social perversions and persecutions that naysayers like you have only to go to countries where people are not interested in your views on why i shouldn't try to go feed them and help the make it to Heaven?
i'll say it again... Jesus stopped His apostle from killing one of his captors
@Ochn77 Red Cross, United Nations Children's Fund, Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières, Oxfam International, United Way, Cansave., Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Big Brothers and Sister, Easter Seal Foundation, Cancer Society, Council for Secular Humanism, - all give help PERIOD, without disrupting the existing beliefs of people because their HELP COMES WITHOUT A PRICE.
thankfully... He showed me the truth. in sunsets, in dreams, in visions, in encounters, in conversations, in coincedences, in prayer, in hope, in love, and in day to day battles with my sin and satan.
you really don't want to know the truth of why you...
purposely sitting there insulting the VERY EXISTENCE THAT WOULD SAVE YOU....
it'd be different if you just gave up. but you're actually INSULTING Him.
YOU'LL BE LIED TO, SPIT ON, INSULTED, BEATEN, AND RAPED. JUST LIKE YOUR KIND COMMITS THOSE CRIMES HERE ON EARTH, BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO IGNORANT TO ENJOY SOMEONE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE, YOU WILL JOIN THOSE CRIMINALS IN PRISON.
I DON'T NEED TO PROVE THE MIRACLES I'VE SEEN TO ANYONE...... !!BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TAKE MY MESSAGES TO HEART ARE ALREADY CHRISITIANS!! ....I'VE FOUGHT OVER AND OVER TO GET MY MESSAGE TO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WILL KNOW HELL LIKE I ALREADY DO.
I'M NOT GONNA PROVE ANY OF MY MIRACLES TO CHILDISH LITTLE DISGUSTING FREAKS THAT CAN'T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT GOD LOVES YOU AND YOU'D RATHER SCREW EVERYTHING IN SITE AND HATE EACH OTHER ALL DAY LONG ALL BECAUSE SOME PERSON KILLED IN THE NAME OF GOD, WHEN JESUS STOPPED ONE OF HIS APOSTLES FROM MURDERING HIS OWN CAPTORS.
YOU'LL NEVER KNOW HAPPINESS LIKE I DO. NEVER KNOW WHAT GOD IS CAPABLE. AND YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH.
Yes, and to all tribal people I will say this: If you see missionairies, capture them, boil them and eat them. You can use their bibles as firewood for the big kettle you'll boil them in.: )
@Anavengertg hello i born with muslims so i know lot about them and i have muslims friends ...i hate but learned islam ... (alongside with christianity and buddhism) ....i found islam is fake and full of bullshits ... free minded person can understand ! Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places) .......you have right to defend your religion (your parents give that to you right?)
@tharangafo What about showing me the hadith of all the people protesting the marriage or Aisha not wanting to get married so young? The standards of 1400 years ago were much more different and only a moron would apply the standards of today to that of 1400 years ago.
@Anavengertg So tell me why you guys folowing man who died like beggar 1400 years ago ..mohamed doesn't know about airplane ,about DNA , about (power full GOD) science ..so why you guys folowing him ? comeon man there is no respect to womens in islam ..too much bull shit ..cutting throat of living animal is your religion ? ..every animal have right to live ..every man have right to live ..killing in the name of religion ? ..Hopefully people are getting smarter ..but blind people see only BLACK
@Anavengertg comeon man people don't need diploma to understand islam ...islam is just blind religion and disgusting ..i hope someone wipe out it before worlds end ..i think education is the cure for this ...human mind creator of this god bullshit alla,god obviously doesn't exist ..ya sure that pedophila lived some time ago and killed by rulers (he maybe like Zinbad or Robinhood "people's hero) ..arguing here doesn't change anything ..insha allha someday i will see muslims burn kuran ...good bye
@tharangafo Yep education is the ore of this. Funny how you just learn everything from TV and a few websites. You know how that's the same way people from other countries watch TV and come to the conclusion that America is an evil empire set out to torture the world with it's arrogance...
@Anavengertg i don't like america or west ,i know about muslims because i born in muslim ground ,you know it's a myth but you trying to protect it ,GOD doesnt exist (christian or islam) comparing to other countries muslim countries are not safe ,no freedom of speech ,womens have less rights ,(maybe you can't understand "you used to live like that") ..just don't follow too much , we came too far monkey to human & create this new world ,those humans made this youtube & we are using it ..i'm tired
@Anavengertg i'm talking with my life experiences... i went to UAE ,saudi arabia ,pakistan and now living in europe.....i don't backup America or UK ...just talking about differences between muslim and other religious countries ........ but arguing here doesn't change anything .... SO good bye
Maybe you guys should read the bible without stabs at the darkness. And if you have, you should know the bible isn't a direct translation of the meaning. For example I don't believe the earth was made in 7 days, i believe God caused the big bang.
the devils move in and corrupt everything...war mongers....leave a peaceful non- hating culture alone...you evil doers,these kind of people don't need religious brainwashing!!!!!!!
And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6 And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
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fucking hell, is that what passed for culture in bongo bongo land?
ytpoliticsnigga 4 weeks ago
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let these tribes live in peace! peace of mind! social peace! financial peace! all kind of peace!
Nomiboy19 1 month ago
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Nomiboy19 1 month ago
@prabhubpk
christianity made higiene conditions the worse, look at the classical times and look at medieval ages, now compare the health of the people at that time.
look at how smart were the greeks and when missionaries came, everything was destroyed.
look at the alexandrian library, hellenic temples, and so on, all destroyed thanks to christianity...
jin54363 1 month ago
@jin54363 LOL very funny, dont just say anything, people are not innocent now to listent to your unrelated connections,as time goes population, industrialization and polution is becoming more, just compare population in middle ages and now, it is almost 100 times or more,people's health conditions are becoming worst becase of these factors,not because of christianity,infact you can find more hospitals started by missionaries,which are providing health,not by any other culture loving people
prabhubpk 3 weeks ago
@prabhubpk
i compare population in classical ages, not in middle ages where everything turned dark.
and actually it was the missionaries and the inquisition that brought this darkness into people's lives, ignorance and arrogance, this caused hunger and disease.
in classical ages, people had better condition than middle ages, and in Japan feudal time, they already had dentists and higiene conditions.
jin54363 3 weeks ago
@jin54363 population growth,massive industrialization and uncontrollable polution is decreasing peoples health not missionaries,around the world missinaries are the people who shared the education for somany people,it brought light to their lifes,Japan's major religion is buddism(60%-70%),i think Buddism is not a japanees religion,if buddism can go from nepal to japan why not christianity?the urge for acquiring power over pacific worstened conditions in japan in moderen times,not missionaries
prabhubpk 2 weeks ago
@prabhubpk
i'm talking about the inquisition, the missionaries are doing a wrong job, making people believe in what they believe, why don't they keep the beliefs to themselves? buddhism is an education, christianity never brought education.
jin54363 2 weeks ago
@jin54363 in Nepal and India you can see so many schools, hospitals started by missionaries,not by any other people,this is fact around the world,most of the cities will have school names starts like Saint Peter's, Saint Anns, Baptist Mission.. school and so on,people from all religions are studying there not only christians,i think this is the way to give people education not with just meditation,so many people got education through christian schools and colleges,just see people around u
prabhubpk 2 weeks ago
@jin54363 just read history most of the famous inventors of our times are either christians or jews,if you see around you at any moment of time you can see the things invented by them,this is known fact,the essence of christianity is love of god and helping,serving manking,just think why only these people contributed most to the science and technology?the hate spreadding against missionaries is just a coverup for some evil ideologies,by using terms like culture,tredition or some other sentiments
prabhubpk 2 weeks ago
@prabhubpk
dude it does't matter if they were christan or jews, they did not convert anyone to their religion, the love of christianity only brought multiculturism, and that is a bad thing, why do you think tokugawa ieyasu banned christianity from Japan? why do you think so many people think witchcraft is evil and all that stuff, society is what it is today (a load of brainwased sheep) because of christianity or islam, and TV programming, and media.
jin54363 2 weeks ago
people are fuckin stupid, they still think that christianity unified europe, LOL
why do you think Tokugawa Ieyasu banned christianity from Japan in feudal times? it was to protect their culture, look how many hellenic temples were turned into sex houses, or gambling houses, or churches, look how many hellenists were presecuted, and look how many viking fought to protect their lands because they knew christianity would destroy their culture, and force them into theirs.
jin54363 1 month ago
Christian missionaries destroying hinduism in india!!!They have destroyed many tribes and religions allover the world & killed millions over centuries ....
Smitalovesyoga 1 month ago 2
@Smitalovesyoga please know why people leaving hinduism,first know about sati,untouchability,child marriages,subjugation of woman and all other attrocities are part of that grate culture,after christianity came to India indian society changed so much, sati was abolished by William Carry(a missionary)and Rammohan Roy in the 1834,dalits got entry into temples,villages and society once christianity came to india,education was made accessible to all castes only through schools started by them only
prabhubpk 3 weeks ago
@Smitalovesyoga why only bramhins has to be priests in temples,why not other caste people,what is there in Manusmruthi?actually in India only 2% are christians, 15% are muslims, most muslims are muslims are converted from hinduism,before british came to india, all your temples destroyed by them not by christians,infact what ever you are enjoying just becasue of their efforts only,british only did business in India,missionaries are the people who developed a lot,just think before talking nonsense
prabhubpk 3 weeks ago
do we think these people are civilized and living good life?where they are having education,health and other necessary things? which are very important for human life?we won't help people and criticise those people helping others, we are living very good life, but what is the motivation to help people, as an individual we are selfish, there should be some motive to help people that is Christainity, missionaries changed so many lifes, just don't hate missionaries just because they are from WEST
prabhubpk 1 month ago
@prabhubpk who are you to judge whether someone is living a good life or not ? Their values and how they live their life is none of your business . Christinianity has forced its way into other peoples' lives . Theyre never asked to be Christians but forced to convert to God and his bitch ass of a hippie son . Look how many indigenous cultures were destroyed and the people enslaved in the name of Christianity . What about the Taino ppl in Cuba ? Thanks to Christianity theyre all gone .
ryanscottweise 3 weeks ago
@ryanscottweise why don't you live like them, if you like their culture?now your life is good and you will talk anything,but you will never help anyone or even think of that also, i leave it to your sense and spirituality,just count how many schools, hospitals and other organizations started by missionaries,they are able to help people because they are not like you,the Taino's whom ever become Christinians living very happyly in all south american,don't just try to blame christianity
prabhubpk 3 weeks ago
@prabhubpk Your definition of helping others is cultural genocide and mass murder . So spare me your holier than thou bs and how God gives a rat's ass about anyone . I'm so glad I'm not a Christian anymore . Thanks to my decisions on returning to pure spiritualism I feel more free than any Christian ever could .
ryanscottweise 3 weeks ago
@ryanscottweise you are saying to leave them to live like animals?like people are living in middle ages?the genosides and mass murders are happened because of politicians and perverts,when it comes to culture no one will leave their culture unless it is barbarian,people are changing towards good,i think this is hurting you,your language showing here what is ur spirituality and way of life,please think of that spirituality which is degrading you as human,helping is important not talking nonsense.
prabhubpk 3 weeks ago
Opinions, opinions. Blah, blah, blah
Anatoliyjax2 3 months ago
Dude, hasn't anyone realised this footage is from one of the old 'mondo' films. As in the hilariously sensationalist extreme documentaries from the 70s that were really inaccurate (but also very gross and funny). I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with your point, I'd just like to point out that this film is not from a reliable source whatsoever.
ShtRecords 3 months ago
If you interested ... and not maniacally in opposition to God ... do google searches on: Do Missionaries Destroy Cultures? ... and: William Carey: A Missionary Who Transformed a Nation
daveimboden 4 months ago
cultural genocide!!!!!!!!!!!!
diannerin 4 months ago
OH yes. Head hunting, cannibalism, finger amputations, death reprisal attacks, that's all so noble and uplifting.
johnknoefler 4 months ago
It is just so sad that these ruthless missionaries would destroy the culture of cannibalism and the stoning to death of children who accidentally wandered into the sacred places of their villages. And notice how they quickly destroyed the culture by making them wear western clothing? Oh, that's right, they didn't.
otaycec 4 months ago
@otaycec you are awesome.
iloveyou8770 2 months ago
if you believe in the supernatural, big if for a lot of you i understand, praying to one god is a tremendously liberating thing as opposed to praying to hundreds and being afraid that by praying to the sun god you'll piss off the fertility god and you won't be able to have kids or grow crops. tribal people are animists they believe in spirits and your self righteous intellectual elitism is insulting to their intelligence.
greenmonk 5 months ago 2
@greenmonk Praying to no gods is better. While others pray to an invisible sky daddy, I am having fun, knowing that I won't be punished after I die. Fear or no fear?
Brazilboy101 4 months ago
most of these comments are noble savage racism. you all assume that because they're tribal, that they're pure and innocent and the christians are raping them. but that's not the truth. tribal people can be bastards too. they believe in gods and have religion. your atheist comments must extent to them as well. this is not subjugation it is one religion working better for a group of people that believe in the supernatural.
greenmonk 5 months ago 2
@greenmonk the voracious need to Christianize the world is what is so repugnant about missionaries. Of course these people are not perfect, neither are Christian westerners! It's not "noble savage racism", it's an appreciation of letting ancient people be who they are. The idea of introducing sexual shame, the fear of hell, the obsessive worship of a foreign savior figure from a desert on the other side of the world to a people in the middle of a remote jungle is utterly disgusting.
TheGreaterGood80 4 months ago
these people had atleast something of their own once. now they are puppets for man from other culture.
gethsoftware 5 months ago
Christianity is gross. It takes away all of the pressure to solve this world's problems by deluding its followers into believing that everything will be better in some make-believe afterlife. No wonder Western Civilization continues to fuck the environment with no end in sight.
wicaco 6 months ago
These mother fucker abrahamic religions do everything they can to destroy the natural untouched world. The two chief Abrahamic religions Christianity and Islam are the two biggest destructive forces the world has seen. Even the Mongol hordes were not as destructive as these two religions.
thezinkcoo 6 months ago
@thezinkcoo have to agree with you. So true. They go everwhere to spread their imperfection and infestation upon humanity to believe in a bearded old man in the sky who had anger issues.
shuan3 6 months ago
one of the most common reasons of war in subsaharan africa has been missionarys giving weapons to tribe if they convert to their religion. and then they encouruge to attack and invade the nabouring tribes and force them to converte as well. missionarys like to paint them self as humanitarians, but actualy the chatolic aid, is not missionary organisation. many atheist allso may work in aid that might be supported buy religion, but moslty, secular aid has better effects.
gethsoftware 6 months ago
Good this is beautiful. Evil bears it's fangs at change for a greater purpose.
GoodBlackMusic 7 months ago
so depressing, it really saddens me that half the world was made a cultural wasteland by the onslaught of the abrahamic religions, and they're not content on leaving it at that! Fuck christianity!
antiteist001 8 months ago 16
@antiteist001
indeed, they destroyed all the knowledge that our ancestors with much effort did to create and sustain it.
jin54363 1 month ago
@NativeSupport They believe in the same fundamentals, however they have a very different way of going about things.
SpatzAntonelli 9 months ago
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@NativeSupport Last time i checked catholics are not christians.
19t86 10 months ago
there is no christian missionaries in this video, is just show catholics. the video should be renamed catholic Missionaries destroy culture.
19t86 10 months ago
@19t86 last time I checked every single catholic I know considers themselves christian. Christians and catholics...same shit different diaper. The "christians" you are referring to do the exact same thing as catholics. How about you leave other cultures alone.
mrpilot102 7 months ago
@mrpilot102 read history alittle more and their is a difference between catholics and christians and their beliefs are totally different.
19t86 7 months ago
@19t86 lol must be nice living in your dream world.
mrpilot102 7 months ago
these poor backwoods american maggots, they live in the richest society on earth yet still hang to their religious idiocy and even spread their sick christian bs to others
TWI08 10 months ago
how dare those missionaries provide these people with food and shelter and tell them that they have hope and give them courage to do something great that's horrible
extremeeXrement1 11 months ago
@extremeeXrement1 More like how dare they give them things they need but slip in an ideology slathered in the Trojan horse of goodwill. Religion is useless, it infects the ignorant, it looks for more victims here.
Fuck Christianity.
WisenedGnome 10 months ago 20
@WisenedGnome christianity is not a religion its knowing Jesus and the father after recieving the holy Spirit being born agian , i am not ignorant i love god and thankful im on his earth with his life in me.
brakenlaker1 5 months ago
@brakenlaker1 sure. and buddhism is being one with buddha and knowing truth that buddha is the highest from of truth there is. and hinduism is not religion, its the way of knowing krishna and other avataras of vishnu. and shinto is not religion, its the way of Gods. its being one with Amaterasu. you can play word games all you want. i know them all.
gethsoftware 5 months ago
@WisenedGnome And atheists have something to offer?
johnknoefler 4 months ago 2
I have contempt for Catholicism but I would rather they have that than to be savages in a jungle.
johnknoefler 4 months ago
@extremeeXrement1 how dare those missionaries provide these people with food and shelter and tell them that they have hope and give them courage to do something great that's horrible"
If the missionaries just went in with food and shelter WITHout the ultimate purpose of converting them it would be just fine but when they lay on their own values, foreign to these people, it also affects their belief systems and crumbles their cultures and the proof is already there.
Matthew1944 10 months ago
@Matthew1944 there culture is kind of the problem like in africa for example peole have to many kids thats why there so much starvation culture is great but in some cases it only adds to the issues
extremeeXrement1 10 months ago
@extremeeXrement1 - Whether or not they are starving depends more on tribal battles or the weather. They have been making it for thousands of years.
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Matthew1944 10 months ago
The abrahmic relgion is a major problem and pain in the ass, from judaism to islam, the one thing not change is that he is a jeslouse god and forbits of other faith leaving the world in wars.
mahender6969 11 months ago
Yeah, well Martin Luther King helped destroy the American culture of slavery, should we have kept that going too?
urloveliness 11 months ago
i wonder when this was made?
buzzobug 11 months ago
because what transpired in my life are testiments to the power of God, testiments to the Truth of Jesus.
but they are also testiments to the struggle of man.
and what you don't know happens when you commit sin.
I was told the Truth that i was supposed to already know.
I was given the chance to do better. i've failed in some regards but He's still working with me to do better again.
Everyone has a story, but everyone needs stories like mine.
even if they don't want it.
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 because what transpired in my life are testiments to the power of God, testiments to the Truth of Jesus.
Then why don't you save it for church. You'll have a receptive audience of like people there. Your story isn't that unique outside of church. Everyone at one time or another has had a hard go of things and you are just one of many.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Ochn77 Ramen!
WisenedGnome 10 months ago
your loss.
and i know what you're thinking. why do you deserve it. you've been better. well... how bout this one... why did i deserve to be deserted by 'cool' ppl everywhere now that i'm not like them.
but why did i deserve it? because through sacrifice i promoted some peace between wicked men in gangs.
you should go help the ppl on this video you're so 'passionate' about. you might recieve faith too.
i'm sorry for you that you're not interested in what's transpired in my life
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 No Och, I'm not thinking any of those things. I don't care if I'm with "cool people". I have my own path and it's a narrow one wherein I try to be the best I can be. I know right from wrong and I stick with right because it's the way to go.
Why do you feel the need to tell others what has transpired in your life? Everyone has a story.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
here you are QOUTING SCRIPTURE to prove a point when your original point was to say religion is a joke and all miracles are false.
i don't care what you think anymore because it's all just a joke to you.
you have no conviction.
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 here you are QOUTING SCRIPTURE to prove a point when your original point was to say religion is a joke
Shows how little you know, Och. Jesus teachings are one thing. The drivel written by Paul is another. Christianity as it is today is Paul's invention. Jesus was born and died a Jew who didn't preach to Gentiles and called one Gentile woman a dog. What you claim are your roots are in fact, a completely different religion - one that Jesus was part of and you are not.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
here you are saying it's all a fairy tale but defending Jesus's teachings. liar? younger christians are battling that ourselves while at the same time daily dealing with persecutors like u.
you sit here and start an argument, just to argue and be rude. you have no beliefs, convictions or issues with this subject at all.
you're only instigating for the sake of instigating.
you're weak minded and weak souled.
i'd really like to see the day where someone like you actually did something.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 Jesus teachings are one thing as the Ebionites will tell you. The fairytales come in with the man-god, virgin birth and sacrifice of a human being for others sins on the part of a Torah upholding Jew where none of these concepts existed. All pagan fairy tales.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Ochn77 Jesus teachings are good, Och, as the Ebionites attest to. The fairy tales come in with virgin birth, man-gods and humans sacrificed for the sins of man on the part of a Torah upholding Jew in whose world none of these concepts exist. Those are the pagan fairy tales.
And you can quit with the persecution. It doesn't wash.
As far as your other comments - They don't really deserve a response.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 if you want to know what i've been through and experienced that made me into a man of faith when all i was was a drinker, toker, womanizer, and a complete cynic that was about to be affliated with gangmembers and chopshops.. email me. otherwise, i'm not trying anymore.
this is my last time at trying with you.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 if you want to know what i've been through and experienced that made me into a man of faith when all i was was a drinker, toker, womanizer,
I've never been any of the above - WITHOUT your religion.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 Shhh you're strong.
WisenedGnome 10 months ago
all i wanted to do was help you because i know what hell is like. but i also know what heaven is like.
i don't want to hurt you at all... but you bet your ass that there's been times i've been in a bar and heard someone say something bad about Jesus and i stood up for Him.
if you can't believe in God rewarding you for doing that, then you're not worthy of having a child. because you literally would be believing that that kid doesn't deserve having praise for being good.
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 wanted to do was help you "
No you don't. You want to convert me to your line of thinking.
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if you can't believe in God rewarding you for doing that, then you're not worthy of having a child"
What???????????
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Ochn77 "all I wanted to do was to help you"
No you didn't. You want to spread your dogma and have me believe it.
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if you can't believe in God rewarding you for doing that, then you're not worthy of having a child
What??????? A little off topic?
Matthew1944 1 year ago
i am done talking to you unless you want to know what i've experienced.
i've been more than calm with someone that directly insulted me, and if i had done the same to you you would have insulted my God more.
unless you're interested in my knowledge or miracles, i'm not going to talk to you
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 unless you're interested in my knowledge or miracles, i'm not going to talk to you
No problem. Refer me to some thoroughly documented ones in scientific or medical journals and I'll look at them.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Ochn77 you would have insulted my God more.
You don't speak for God, Och. I doubt that he's all that impressed with your religion either since it doesn't represent what Jesus taught anyway. Think he likes the idea that Jesus message was hijacked and changed by Paul and here you are, spewing Pauline paganism.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
He stated that VVV before He stated your qoute.
you're reading out of text.
Ochn77 1 year ago
John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.”
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 “I and the Father are one.”
"
Kind of like when a man and woman marry, they are one?
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Ochn77 I and the Father are one"
Like when two people marry, they are one?
Matthew1944 1 year ago
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@Matthew1944 I and the Father are one"
Like when two people marry, they are one?
and you just proved my point.
gl with your life.
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77
Like when two people marry, they are one?
and you just proved my point.
,,,,
So you're stating that Jesus was a God in his own right, in a relationship with is father, God? Then we have another problem, Och. God stated " I am the first, I am the last, and besides me, there is no other god" and "no saviour"
Matthew1944 1 year ago
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@Matthew1944 I and the Father are one"
Like when two people marry, they are one?
and you just proved my point.
i have no more reason to speak with you. you have no conviction or Truth.
Ochn77 1 year ago
He said many things in parables.
if you saw the sunset i saw..you'd believe as much as i do. and if you spoke to Jesus the way you speak to me about Him... you would very much wish you hadn't.
Ochn77 1 year ago
i'm through with you. if you want to have a conversation about the miracles i've seen and how i speak to people that are not acting like a indictive troublemaker that actually listen to me, then email me.
i'm not going to play your stupid little online chat game to where you try to spit humor at my conviction in my face.
Ochn77 1 year ago
do i really need to qoute a man that said "I am God." to prove to you that you don't need to believe in Him?
here's a qoute.... a man asked Him what the greatest commandment is... Jesus said "Love thy God and Love thy neighbor."
you're doing neither.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 do i really need to qoute a man that said "I am God"
John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not touch me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ “
Jesus was not God.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
but you will know.
when you die and you see who you insulted. you'll understand.
when He denies you shelter because you deny my witnessing His miracles only to provide you with the ability to stay in Heaven....
then you'll know what i feel and fight.
then you'll repent.
then you'll wish you'd just had faith.
then you'll wish you could have just stopped using logic to explain how a very limited of us believe enough to help the rest of you.
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 but you will know.
when you die and you see who you insulted. you'll understand.
when He denies you shelter because you deny my witnessing His miracles only to provide you with the ability to stay in Heaven....
then you'll know what i feel and fight.
then you'll repent.
then you'll wish you'd just had faith.
then you'll wish you could have just stopped using logic to explain how a very limited of us believe enough to help the rest of you.
Bullshit!
Matthew1944 1 year ago
you'll never be in Heaven insulting God. your very existence is because of Him. every bit of your thought, life, emotions, are from Him. and you insult Him.
i said i don't need your acceptance, but if i was in front of you... i would have a hard time not hurting you for insulting me for knowing Truth.
you will never find someone to explain what i feel and fight.
you will never find someone to explain how Jesus gives me peace and shelter.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 You think that I insult God because I won't go for man-made religion? Think again. You don't NEED my acceptance, Och.
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i would have a hard time not hurting you for insulting me for knowing Truth."
You would do it ONCE.
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Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 you insult me by calling me crazy for having faith in something that is absolutely magnificent.
you're literally asking me not to tell you good news, and literally telling me to not care about you seeing horror instead.
i've seen both.
my miracles aren't going to be see by everyone. He wants you to ALREADY have faith.
you're telling Him to work for you.
when u don't deserve that n the first place.
but if u moved an inch n His direction, He'd move lightyears 2 u
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 You are a silly rabbit. You've been spewing out Paul's dogma and never once have you quoted Jesus, have you. Have you checked out Mark wherein Jesus gives advice on how to achieve eternal life? It seems all one needs to do is to follow the commandments and live a moral, righteous life. He didn't ask the man to believe in him. He advised on prayer too - to pray directly to God and God would know what one needed.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
those priests were wrong. they were supposed to walk away. you forget that the synagogue priests during the time of Jesus were called vile snakes by John the Baptist.
...here ya go...
"Pope John Paul II has emphasised that Catholic priests implicated in the killings must be made accountable for their actions."
no christian is supposed to kill. and out of the billions of other christians out there.. they would disagree with what the priests did ALSO!
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 you forget that the synagogue priests during the time of Jesus were called vile snakes "
Any idea why, Oc? Because they were appointed by Romans and were Roman collaborators - Everyone hated them.
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no christian is supposed to kill."
True, but that's how it got to where it is now. More died at the hands of Christianity than there every were martyrs.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 More died at the hands of Christianity than there every were martyrs.
you can blame that on yourself.
while i preach nothing but love and Jesus giving you the ability to go to Heaven, that's it. with respect and kindness, i tell you the Truth. with grating teeth you snarl at me and spit in my face because you don't want to sacrifice up your sins and perversions. you want them. ....so He lets you have them.
if you want peace, you should believe.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 while i preach nothing but love
Better look back at your posts and "hurting me", liar!
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I don't have perversions or sins that I can't confess directly to God himself without any need for Christian mumbo jumbo, Och.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 Better look back at your posts and "hurting me", liar!
i was at first, but there's a big difference between someone like you, just insulting God, and someone like those in the video.
they want help. if they don't accept, we try again, but we don't hurt them.
you want to purposely persecute me.
and guess what.. Jesus doesn't want me to fight you. at all. if you hurt or persecute me, that means i'm stronger in Heaven.
you want 2 talk to me, email me, i'm thru here
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 I have never insulted God. I just think your religion is a bunch of pagan drivel. Most likely God doesn't think much of it either since it doesn't represent what Jesus taught anyway.
Ah, yes. The persecution card. I was wondering when you'd be pulling it out. Handy, isn't it? When someone doesn't go along with your dogma and calls you on it, it's always persecution, isn't it.
.........
if you hurt or persecute me, that means i'm stronger in Heaven.
Dream on.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
you will never UNDERSTAND what i've come to know and feel.
but you can try to believe it. and if you ever come around to actually having some faith because you walked your logical ass down to a mission and spoke with them and found out how loving they are.... you may begin to have faith enough to experience a little of the compassion Jesus has that i have experienced.
Jesus is real... whether or not your logic wants Him to be.
He's real. very very real.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 Jesus may well have been real but he was executed, died and remains dead.
Minucius Felix (160-250 C.E) wrote:
"For in that you attribute to our religion the worship of a criminal and his cross, you wander far from the neighborhood of the truth, in thinking either that a criminal deserved, or that an earthly being was able, to be believed God...."
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT....
you're going to take the word of a murdering governmental emperialist
over...
a peaceful, miracle working, apostle that walked ALONE with only Jesus as his friend, AND COVERTED HALF OF EUROPE...
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 peaceful, miracle working, apostle that walked ALONE with only Jesus as his friend, AND COVERTED HALF OF EUROPE..."
Are you talking about the Paul who never even met Jesus? He invented the pagan tale of a man-god, virgin birth and sacrifice of a human based on paganism. It spread to Rome and grew there and was then propogated by the sword, Och. Not very pretty.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
you're never going to understand why Christians evangelize until you have enough faith to understand that they are bringing people that want salvation the key to have it.
i used to mess with pagan beliefs, i used to live by logic, i used to call the church wrong, i used to think God doesn't want people to act like christians and more just normal hohum daily good loving life.
...before i experienced what no shrink can explain. as well as the people that stood around me and felt it too
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 you're never going to understand why Christians evangelize until you have enough faith to understand that they are bringing people that want salvation the key to have it.
Empty promises based on a pagan story.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
I'm just sickened when I see this.
mrpilot102 1 year ago
you actually sit there, doing nothing to help anyone, preaching on some bs soapbox that i would forcefully remove you from if i was there in person, about things that you don't help or hender.
you're literally, doing nothing.
you don't feed the homeless.
you've never spoken to a truly faithful man in person.
you've never done anything but live a pleasurable existence and do whatever you wish
you'll regret that.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 -you actually sit there, doing nothing to help anyone, preaching on some bs soapbox that i would forcefully remove you from if i was there in person, about things that you don't help or hender. you're literally, doing nothing. you don't feed the homeless. you've never spoken to a truly faithful man in person. you've never done anything but live a pleasurable existence and do whatever you wish
You really are a foolish wonder. Do you consider yourself to be psychic too?
Matthew1944 1 year ago
i was a messed up person too. hating everyone, insulting whoever i wanted, being with whatever woman came along, just going right along with you 'logical and pr'd' little culture that can't bend their knees to save a homeless man.
you actually THINK! that there's not consequences for you to sit there and insult God, say you're better than christians who fight for you, and then go to a bar and crack jokes at EVERYTHING even things that you just think is wrong.
When's the last time you helped?
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 was a messed up person too. hating everyone, insulting whoever i wanted
You don't appear to have changed all that much either, judging by your last four or five posts. I would suggest anger management classes. If "he" showed you the truth in sunsets, dreams and visions, I would also suggest an immediate trip to your local mental health unit for some medication and psychotherapy.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 you told me it was a fairy tale. that was insult enough. and pshychics don't exist. prophets do, and i don't consider myself one because while for a while, through what i was experiencing, i was speaking with God in several different ways. what He showed me was the Truth. the perverse thoughts i have are normal thoughts that extend from this culture. the same culture that will sit here and make jokes about every serious aspect of life.
i don't need your acceptance
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 i was speaking with God in several different ways. what He showed me was the Truth
That experience can be duplicated in a lab by stimulating the temporal lobe of the brain.
.................
I don't need your acceptance"
I have no problem with that.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 this right here is why you don't know God. because you call any real experience and faith, crazy, while at the same time you'll say there's no proof. you are a complete fool and perverse in every aspect of the word.
missionaries give thier lives up to God, helping others, while people like you find reasons that they shouldn't do what you never had the heart to.
i know what you need. you need to see with your own eyes.... well.. go speak to a man of faith and find out
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 missionaries give thier lives up to God, helping others"
And the helping others sounds really good, except the main purpose of this "help" is conversion and generally when they leave, they have destroyed ages old traditions and beliefs of their "victims" and left their civilization in shambles. This has been shown over and over and if you'd like, I can give you a very length list of tribes affected in this way.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Ochn77 The "give their lives to God, helping others" sounds good until you realize that the ulterior motive is conversion. Everywhere they go, when the missionaries move in, they demoralize and destroy ages old traditions and beliefs and when they leave, the civilization that had been thriving, folds. I have a very long list of just civilizations in Africa that have been destroyed in just such a fashion.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 I have a very long list of just civilizations in Africa that have been destroyed in just such a fashion.
if you're going 2 suffer many many times worse than your slight suffering here on earth, wouldn't it be BENEFICIAL to start to believe? i would really likje 2 see u go over 2 Rwanda and tell all the converted christians there 2 go back to living n huts and believing n spirits..... after they stopped messing with that stuff, they found peaceful a God... instead of fighting
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 i would really likje 2 see u go over 2 Rwanda and tell all the converted christians there
More recently the BBC aired:
Priests get death sentence for Rwandan genocide
BBC NEWS April 19, 1998
A court in Rwanda has sentenced two Roman Catholic priests to death for their role in the genocide of 1994, in which up to a million Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 but you won't. you will just sit there wanting to know the Truth without doing anything to deserve it.
you want some of my miracles? ok... how bout Him telling me how to help someone before i know any details about the person.
how about the tent city in F. Worth that i helped out. the man was told by God that all he needed was bibles and to work. through his work helping those people, he had a man let them be relocated to private land that was legal.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 you want some of my miracles?"
No, I actually don't.
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the man was told by God that all he needed was bibles"
I don't see how that can be since the God you profess to believe "stated" that not one word must added to his law. Your lot added the NT - direct disobedience. I isn't logical that God would ask for edited bibles.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 you're playing semantics to try to win a friggen argument when you're missing the entire point of me talking to you.
you literally want a loving God to not allow people that need faith and hope and love, to not have any word of the Lord, that would raise their spirits because some people added to it..... Gospels. they were scrolls found in the DeadSea that spoke about their experiences of living with Jesus himself.
and because you don't to know any of my miracles....
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 ou literally want a loving God to not allow people that need faith and hope and love
They had faith, hope and love before the missionaries came. The missionaries destroyed that.
The Dead Sea Scrolls have nothing to say about Jesus nor about Christianity.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 the people there prayed for generators the day before he brought them to them.
miracles and messages are Truth, given to faithful people to help those in need.
those blessings are something that never happen to people that want to insult their God. the only God that exists.
and if you want to know specifically why i don't need psychotherapy, you'll go ask some of the people that would have conversations with me and feel the stamp of a foot when they wanted to not believe me.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 what i went through was a progression of things that happened that i couldn't control. He saved me and i grew in faith with that saving. but then i messed up because i wanted to go back to being another person like you.
you don't ask your God for proof when you aren't willing to worship Him.
and if you knew the love He's shown me, you would understand what the meaning of worship is.
there are thousands of people that have had real miracles happen to them.
it's unarguable.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 there are thousands of people that have had real miracles happen to them.
Lots of hearsay - no documentation. Generally, it's a miracle if a wish happens, and "God's will" if it doesn't. You are certainly operating with a lot of holy baggage.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 Lots of hearsay - no documentation.
u won't know my miracle if you're going to say there's know documentation but then not WANT to hear it. there IS documentation of miracles. and plenty of it. do u really think thousands of people would convert at a drop of a hat just because? do you really think christianity spread across the globe because it's only government?
do u really think all of tribal Europe that battled Julius Ceasar to stay pagan... turned christian 4 no reason?
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 u won't know my miracle if you're going to say there's know documentation.
There is a man, and I'll check for his name for you if you want, who is offering quite a large amount of money for a fully documented miracle - like in a scientific study or a medical journal. In 20 years, no one has taken him up on it. You want to try.
Christianity spread across the globe by the sword - killing all its opponents, Oc.
On the contrary, christianity IS pagan.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 HE'S NEVER GOING TO SEE IT.
you don't get a blessing from God by bribing Him.
fool.
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 You can't speak for God, Och. AND Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on God anyway.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 Christianity is the only place you'll find documented miracles.
you say they don't exist... but thousands would disagree.
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 Christianity is the only place you'll find documented miracles. you say they don't exist... but thousands would disagree.
Fine. Please refer me to some thoroughly documented "miracles" in the scientific or medical journal of your choice.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 Christianity is the only place you'll find documented miracles. you say they don't exist... but thousands would disagree.
Fine, Och. Then please refer me to a thoroughly documented scientific or medical journal of your choice.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 can you even concieve of the faith that it took for the missionaries in this video to go back to a location that 5 of their brothers were killed at to help the people have faith so they can live after death?
can you begin to concieve of the idea of why those people had doubts in their own hedenistic beliefs after speaking with those missionaries?
and when you do... can you surpass me in my struggle with my faith, knowing that people like you get by with insulting Him ....
Ochn77 1 year ago
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@Ochn77 -concieve of the faith that it took for the missionaries in this video to go back to a location that 5 of their brothers were killed ,,,
Doesn't bother me at all when I think about the murders over the last 1700 years of others at the hands of Christianity.. One would think that once a few of their fellows were killed, they'd have the brains to stay away. Play in the traffic - you get hit.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 can you understand why He wants you to believe in Him when there are so many problems in this world?
can you BEGIN to say you're better than me when my entire plan for my life is to break free of the social perversions and persecutions that naysayers like you have only to go to countries where people are not interested in your views on why i shouldn't try to go feed them and help the make it to Heaven?
i'll say it again... Jesus stopped His apostle from killing one of his captors
Ochn77 1 year ago
@Ochn77 Red Cross, United Nations Children's Fund, Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières, Oxfam International, United Way, Cansave., Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Big Brothers and Sister, Easter Seal Foundation, Cancer Society, Council for Secular Humanism, - all give help PERIOD, without disrupting the existing beliefs of people because their HELP COMES WITHOUT A PRICE.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
AND YOU'LL PAY FOR IT.
thankfully... He showed me the truth. in sunsets, in dreams, in visions, in encounters, in conversations, in coincedences, in prayer, in hope, in love, and in day to day battles with my sin and satan.
you really don't want to know the truth of why you...
purposely sitting there insulting the VERY EXISTENCE THAT WOULD SAVE YOU....
it'd be different if you just gave up. but you're actually INSULTING Him.
...good luck with that.
Ochn77 1 year ago
I WAS SHOWN WAS SATAN AND HELL IS TO GIVE ME MORE CONVICTION TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH AND MAKE YOU WANT TO CHANGE. BUT YOU INSULT ME AND CALL ME CRAZY.
YOU ASK FOR PROOF.
AND WHEN I GIVE IT TO YOU, YOU SPIT IN MY FACE.
YOU WILL KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE PERSECUTED FOR YOUR LAWLESSNESS AND UNFAITHFUL, DISGUSTING, UNREPENTIVE LIVES.
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?
THE MAIN REASON?
YOUR HEART IS NOT FULL OF LOVE. AND THEY HAVE COMPASSION ENOUGH TO LOVE YOU IF YOU LOVE BACK.
INSTEAD, YOU INSULT GOD
Ochn77 1 year ago
YOU'LL BE LIED TO, SPIT ON, INSULTED, BEATEN, AND RAPED. JUST LIKE YOUR KIND COMMITS THOSE CRIMES HERE ON EARTH, BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO IGNORANT TO ENJOY SOMEONE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE, YOU WILL JOIN THOSE CRIMINALS IN PRISON.
I DON'T NEED TO PROVE THE MIRACLES I'VE SEEN TO ANYONE...... !!BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TAKE MY MESSAGES TO HEART ARE ALREADY CHRISITIANS!! ....I'VE FOUGHT OVER AND OVER TO GET MY MESSAGE TO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WILL KNOW HELL LIKE I ALREADY DO.
Ochn77 1 year ago
I'M NOT GONNA PROVE ANY OF MY MIRACLES TO CHILDISH LITTLE DISGUSTING FREAKS THAT CAN'T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT GOD LOVES YOU AND YOU'D RATHER SCREW EVERYTHING IN SITE AND HATE EACH OTHER ALL DAY LONG ALL BECAUSE SOME PERSON KILLED IN THE NAME OF GOD, WHEN JESUS STOPPED ONE OF HIS APOSTLES FROM MURDERING HIS OWN CAPTORS.
YOU'LL NEVER KNOW HAPPINESS LIKE I DO. NEVER KNOW WHAT GOD IS CAPABLE. AND YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH.
Ochn77 1 year ago
Yes, and to all tribal people I will say this: If you see missionairies, capture them, boil them and eat them. You can use their bibles as firewood for the big kettle you'll boil them in.: )
winterstellar 1 year ago
Missionaries, why can't you leave people alone? I won't travel all the way to New Guinea to tell the natives that they should be atheist.
TheGreaterGood80 1 year ago
how is this wrong. not once does it say they must convert for food. the movie clearly states that the mission is the last refuge of civilization
SeumasMacDugall 1 year ago
without islam world get much better
tharangafo 1 year ago
@tharangafo What do you know of Islam? Only what you watch on TV by the looks of it.
Anavengertg 1 year ago
@Anavengertg hello i born with muslims so i know lot about them and i have muslims friends ...i hate but learned islam ... (alongside with christianity and buddhism) ....i found islam is fake and full of bullshits ... free minded person can understand ! Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places) .......you have right to defend your religion (your parents give that to you right?)
tharangafo 1 year ago
@tharangafo What about showing me the hadith of all the people protesting the marriage or Aisha not wanting to get married so young? The standards of 1400 years ago were much more different and only a moron would apply the standards of today to that of 1400 years ago.
Anavengertg 1 year ago
@Anavengertg So tell me why you guys folowing man who died like beggar 1400 years ago ..mohamed doesn't know about airplane ,about DNA , about (power full GOD) science ..so why you guys folowing him ? comeon man there is no respect to womens in islam ..too much bull shit ..cutting throat of living animal is your religion ? ..every animal have right to live ..every man have right to live ..killing in the name of religion ? ..Hopefully people are getting smarter ..but blind people see only BLACK
tharangafo 1 year ago
@tharangafo Lol I thought you knew about Islam? Apparently you know nothing at all.
Also you're a vegetarian? I'm sorry to tell you this but humans weren't built to be Herbivores.
Anavengertg 1 year ago
@Anavengertg comeon man people don't need diploma to understand islam ...islam is just blind religion and disgusting ..i hope someone wipe out it before worlds end ..i think education is the cure for this ...human mind creator of this god bullshit alla,god obviously doesn't exist ..ya sure that pedophila lived some time ago and killed by rulers (he maybe like Zinbad or Robinhood "people's hero) ..arguing here doesn't change anything ..insha allha someday i will see muslims burn kuran ...good bye
tharangafo 1 year ago
@tharangafo Yep education is the ore of this. Funny how you just learn everything from TV and a few websites. You know how that's the same way people from other countries watch TV and come to the conclusion that America is an evil empire set out to torture the world with it's arrogance...
Anavengertg 1 year ago
@Anavengertg i don't like america or west ,i know about muslims because i born in muslim ground ,you know it's a myth but you trying to protect it ,GOD doesnt exist (christian or islam) comparing to other countries muslim countries are not safe ,no freedom of speech ,womens have less rights ,(maybe you can't understand "you used to live like that") ..just don't follow too much , we came too far monkey to human & create this new world ,those humans made this youtube & we are using it ..i'm tired
tharangafo 1 year ago
@tharangafo Oooh now you've finally come out into the open. You're just an atheist who pretends to know about stuff you have no clue about it.
Anavengertg 1 year ago
@Anavengertg i'm talking with my life experiences... i went to UAE ,saudi arabia ,pakistan and now living in europe.....i don't backup America or UK ...just talking about differences between muslim and other religious countries ........ but arguing here doesn't change anything .... SO good bye
tharangafo 1 year ago
@tharangafo you just talk about how people believe culturally. You still haven't shown me any religious evidences from Islamic Teachings.
Anavengertg 1 year ago
Hail the gods!
MrROTCcadet 1 year ago
Maybe you guys should read the bible without stabs at the darkness. And if you have, you should know the bible isn't a direct translation of the meaning. For example I don't believe the earth was made in 7 days, i believe God caused the big bang.
supernoob6 1 year ago
@ Balls1983, do you know anybody out there whose 'perfect?' Let me know if you find one, i'd be the first who would like to know..
Drooblemeister 1 year ago
the devils move in and corrupt everything...war mongers....leave a peaceful non- hating culture alone...you evil doers,these kind of people don't need religious brainwashing!!!!!!!
chucka59 1 year ago
christian missionaries are the scum of the earth !! i hope they all get eaten by cannibals !!
XxsoulsuckerxX 1 year ago 3
This is one of the most patronising and racist things I have ever seen. The hubris and arrogance beggars belief.
inphanta 1 year ago
Christian missionaries proving once again that religion is nothing more than a gang, the more people you have the stronger it seems to become.
AceofDimonds0 1 year ago 3
I agree with this video and christianaity is this sick in all aspects.
Sugardaddy501 1 year ago 3
mfantazzini 1 year ago
All Christians are assholes, and they will try to destroy any culture that comes in conflict with it's opressive thought
Northernrebel666 1 year ago
He is to us "primitive" but he is probably more happy than us. Down with the christgod.
RangerThompson 1 year ago
U guys obviously don't know what u are talkin about.........
mewankharshiing 1 year ago