@Daniel23Ciutac Tu cand o sa inceapa paruiala sa fugi cu ea. Voi veti locui aici, un nou popor cum noi nu vrem...Un popor ce va vorbi romano-ungara si va fi mai puternic si mai intelept. Noi o sa ne omoram ca prostii intre noi din cauza mandriei ungurilor si indaratniciei noastre...dar asta ne este soarta, nu ai ce face...
...and in lots of waves during the 20th century, till the and of Ceausescu.
This was UNFAIR, and to took everything from Hungarians there. BUT it is history!!! Now, time to behave normally and think - not to believe everything, what lies were told to keep together Romania - it will be whole, but Romanians should see the other side of the coin - cos each one has TWO sides.
Of course, in these safe and developing cities, Romanian literature,culture were developing taken over the Monarchy's wings. But nowadays, a lot of Romanians on youtube and in life are not even thankful because of these - as all along the 20th century, they trying to stab on the back the Hungarians, cos they let them grow? Romanians are using the cities and buildings of Hungarian and German architecturers. Romanians, who r mostly pushed to move to Transylvania by the government after 1920....
In that period (around 1880-1910). Romanians came to Transylvania - i've never said that there weren't native Romanians, but much-more less, then romanian history-tales saying.
But as the Monarchy/Hungary was growing, developing, there were much better opportunities to use, therefore Romanians were migrating there. And everybody lived peacefully. (Germans, Hungarians, Romanians,Slavs, Jews, etc.)
In 1880 (including Transylvania and the others) the 21% of the Hungarian population (mother tongue NOT nationality was Hungarian), the 17% of the German population, the 3,5% of the Romanian population were living in cities. The first two built up the civic life. There were no forced and other kinda "magyarization" - especially not like romanianization all along the 20th century, built up from 1920.
In 1910 these numbers: 27% of Hungarians and 4,2% Romanians lived in cities.
@pachycephalos OMG! My frined dont joke with that! The Magyarization proces was recognized for this period even by yours historians...so please dont say that!Let see..the Apony law from 1907, in only 5 years, 320 Romanian schools, 10,76% from a total of 2975 schools were closed!another?Dieta from Sibiu 1863 we are present but you fear us and in 1867, manage to block us. In this period Germans from Satu Mare were all magyarized...Read "Das Deutschtum in Siebenburgen"pages 81-88,in Siebenburgen,I.
Let's have a look at the facts: in the 16-17th century most of the romanian shepherds started to settle down in Transylvania cos of the better oportunities - cos Hungarians and Saxons started to move into the cities, trading, setting up manufactures, etc. At the same time romanian shepherds even had difficulties to get used to the setteled-down lifestyle. Hungarians and Saxons started to build up the cities' civic life...facts r the folowwing:
@pachycephalos Facts: Three waves of Romanians run from Pannonia and Maramures ( I ask my self why?) from 1438 until 1570. First: 1438-1478 run in Polish kingdom and form here 71 villages!!!! Second wave: 1492-1500 also in Poland - 14 villages!!!! Third 1508-1550 they form in Poland ...123 villages!!!! Those come from Bistrita-Nasaud, Maramures, Satmar, Salaj, Bihor, Ugocea and Bereg comitates.
@pachycephalos Another fact: the military compendium made from Sigismund of Luxemburg at Timisoara, for the crusaders who join his crusade. In this compendium we sow Transylvania and Valahia having 9 factories for making cannons! We Romanians and Hungarians have this weapons in the same time with westerners.Important is a map of Transylvania who is called ...Walachia UltraSilvana, Romanian Country is Walachia Magna and Moldavia ...Walachia Minor.
@pachycephalos Another fact: two documents from king Bela 1256 and 1262, show Romanians in Pannonia and in the same time show the Szeklers living also in Pannonia in year 1000. They will come after this period in Transylvania.
I can show you also a document from Biblioteca Vaticana were we are called by Pope Romanians in 1354. You know in time of Ludovic the Great, Pope was close to make us Catholics? You know who stop bishops to go in Tara Romaneasca and Moldova? Ludovic! Ask your self why?
...and I thought that would find a video about Transylvania whitout any hater comments, doesn't matter if it's Romanians or Hungarians, but I see I thought it wrong...guys, just live together as friends, the past doesn't matter, now Transylvania is the home of many nations, and nobody can't change it, I don't hate anybody, exception this haters...
All have to do, that go and find Hungarian/Romanian, and come to know him...we're people, just then a member of a nation...
@Daniel23Ciutac sa fii sanatos cu prietena ta! Daca tu permiti la niste unguri sa protesteze in tara ta.. ca vor tinutul secuiesc si ce mai vor ei atunci impacate tu cu ei... du pa ce ca au drepturi mai au si ciocu mare.. e ca si cum ar venii un neamt in austria si vrea sa puna mana pe tara... trezitiva romanilor care ati ramas si iesiti pe strada!!!!!!!!
universitas sicolorum natio nobile! terra sicolorum patria hungarus! romani ite domum!
presumptuosam astuciam diversorum malefactorum, specialiter Olachorum, in ipsa terra nostra existencium exterminandum seu delendum in ipsa terra malefactores quarumlibet nacionum, signanter Olachorum
vlah = țigan latinizat!
look at the coat of arms you uneducated provocant gypsy, and you will see witch are the constitutional nations of Transylvania: Hungarians, Szeklers and Saxons!!!
@RaisingTurul Quindam est vos spurcanem? Quisque est barbarus alio!
Reed first known documents about Transylvania Council or Dieta from 1288, you will see 4 noble nations, same in 1291. Romanians are the 4-th nation presented.
Also this two documents from king Bela, years 1256 and 1262, you will discover Szeklers and Romanians in time of Szent Istfan pay taxes to Esztergom Diocese from the start. They are the Romanians from Pannonia and here are first Szeklers in year 1000! Sry your documents..
@RaisingTurul You have idea why Romanians are called like so? We resist to your religion and your low civilization. Pope and Catholicism was a good weapons to take our lands, to kill us and you have absolution from Pope no?
@al3csandru89, Romanian historians tend to accept that Menumorot was the "voivode" of Crişana, one of the Romanian incipient states on the territory of present-day Romania.[1][10][11] According to others he was a Khazar-Kabar ruler in Eastern Hungary. (Geata Hungarorum)
@pachycephalos Menumorut is only a name, like Vlad or Basarab, like Litovoi or Seneslau. Is a used name in this period. Menumorut say this: Atila steal the land from his ancestors...so is older than Huns here. So is not a Khazar in my opinion. Can be a Romanian ... his argue send our thoughts.
@g0blin11 Lofaszt román terület, azért erdély többsége magyar nyelvü mi? Az a rohadék Ceaușescu telepitette be a sok cigány, szőrösnyelvű román faszkalapot!!!
Roman = Cigany , Hataron tuli Magyarok = Testverek ! Akarhogy is hadakoznak meg mocskolodnak , mert ahhoz a romak ertenek mint tudott , itt kokemeny tenyek igazoljak egykori Orszaghatarainknak 1920 ban valo eltorleset ! Kitartas a hataron tuliaknak !
Ardealul pământ românesc! Nu uitaţi, bozgorilor!!! La trianon nouă, românilor ni s-a făcut o nedreptate! Aţi primit jumătate din Crişana! Mai lătraţi ca nişte javre că vreţi Transilvania înapoi, când defapt noi trebuie să ne luăm înapoi jumătatea aceea care aparţine Crişanei!
Pentru cultura voastră generală, Ungaria nu a fost NICIODATĂ A VOASTRĂ! Câmpia Panoniei a fost locuită de Daci! Panonia este PĂMÂNT ROMÂNESC! TOATĂ UNGARIA ESTE PĂMÂNT ROMÂNESC!
@TransilvaniaROU yeah soon you will say you are autochton in whole europe, because you are homo erectus romanus, The romanians there living are remaining latin people from the neoliticum :D
When you will unit the the vlach principalities Romanospain, Fracoromani, Italoromani to big Imperium Valachia and conquer the rest of Europe?
Transylvania is romanian, you are so ill:) Even the name is not romanians, look at at the coat of armes then you know... The heart beats hungarian (HarCov)!
Unguri!dar voi de ce coborati la nivelul acestori ciobani,ei vorbesc numai de fute si de muie si de toate acestia,acestia nu stiu sa vorbeasca civilizat,asa au fost ei invatati,nici limba lor nu le folosesc cu demnitate vorbesc numai cu baai...si maai,ma dezgusta cand le aud vorbind,si cat despre Erdély voi stiti ca e al neamului nostru de deceni asa ca lasati pe ciobani astia sa spuna ce vor.simtitiva acasa aici oricand ca nu noi suntem oaspeti ci ei.am scris in romana sa inteleaga si prosti.
Learn to say it in Romanian: Ardeal. As long as it is Romanian territory, you will call it by our name, or by the latin name: Transylvania.
If you consider that the lands belong to you, come and fight for them, stop creating propagandistic videos.
Be men and fight for what is yours. Don't be propagandistic pussies. And by the way, get your Vardariote brothers from Skopje, now they believe they are Greeks, like you believe you are Romanians.
Ardeal in rumanian is only a fonetic form of the Hungarian Erdely, in rumanian doesn't mean anything.
Transylvania is a Latin Word, because the written language in Hungary ( and most of Europe ) in the Middle Ages was LATIN, same time the rumanians used slavic language with CYRILIC LETTERS, they switched to Latin Letters only at the beginning of the XIX Century.All the names in Transylvania are of Hungarian Origin ( Brasso-Brasov, Szeben-Sibiu, Szasz Sebes-Sebes, Segesvar-Sighisoara and so on )
@lugano288 you are so stupid like all hunGAYrian extremists... first of all you don't know SHIT about Romanian history and Transylvania... and yes retard... it's "ROmanian" not "rumanian", we are direct descendands of latins and dacians : is this simple coincidence of names to you?? "Roman Empire - Rome (capital of the Roman Empire) - ROMANIA(our country)" which has this name since 1859 because since then romanians lived in 3 provinces : Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania....
singurul lucru ce nu inteleg eu aici... cum mama dracu au reusit latinii sa romanizeze dacii (dusmani fiind si dupa cucerirea Daciei) in 101 ani; si nu au reusit in 600 de ani sa romanizeze truburile germane sau britanice .... chestia asta daco-romana e o mare porcarie inventata de ceausescu si istoricii lui; romanii se trag de undeva din zona albaniei sau poate dupa unele surse romanii adunau raufacatorii din imperiu si le lasau in Dacia pentru ca a ramas teritoriu nepopulat dupa retragere.
@zaszloszoltan asta probabil e istoria predata in varianta voastra ungureasca..cum le-am mai zis si la altii.. sunteti prea frustrati sa admiteti adevaru... ati fost mereu minoritari pe pamantul romanesc Transilvania..nici politicile voastre de ultra-maghiarizare a romanilor de acolo nu au facut sa se schimbe radical lucrurile..tot niste frustrati ati ramas... ti se pare coincidenta ca in toate provinciile care v-au fost luate la trianon erau romanii, slovacii, ruthenii si austriecii majoritari?
@g0blin11 this shows only that you have no idea of history. that hungarian were minority in several parts of the kingdom was a development. otherwise after 1526 transilvania had been a vlach state... tax documents estimade 20-25 % of romanians in transilvania in this time. Romanians ingnore this fact, like the 1000year so called dark age in romanian history books: 200AD-1200AD :) its only dark for you, the gots, gepids and avaric pasts in transilvania are enough proofed & we HU are still here !
@g0blin11 that is not only Hungarian history, this is world history. I live in Germany reading history in 4 languages. German, English and Hungarian the same, but Romanian... You have have Romanian settlements till today in Greek-> Aromani. Yeah Romanians are Romans but EAST ROMANS. You know how herodot described the Dacians? Blond with blue eyes? Yeah hungarians are often blond and blue eyed like I! . So i´m a Daco-Hungarian and like my ancient Daco forefathers said: Romani ite domum!!!! :))
WE've only used cyrilic alphabet in holy books and in the Orthodox Church documents and scriptures, writings... We've always used the latin alphabet , all the literature books which date from medieval times from famous romanian chronicars like G Ureche, M Costin or D Cantemir were written in with latin letters... you only think this because you are thought extremist history in your bullshit bozgorian schools... , you never admitted that romanians have always been the majority in transylvania
@g0blin11 Ureche Costin Cantemir studyied and worked in Poland where latin alphabet was used like in Hungaria therfore they not wrote cyrilic.
And if you read their works you know that moldavia is also hungarian land, and towns like suceava (City of furriers), bacau (executive) and orhei (place of watching) are of hungarian origin like the most settlements in Moldavia.
And they till today have their ancient hungarian name, but corrupted into romanian.
The Kingdom of Hungary was a long time ago! No other country dreams of its older borders. So Hungarians like living in the past. And even the name "Erdely" (Romanian: Ardeal) is or Romanian-Dacian (Thracian) origin, so this shows who was there the first. Hungarians came from the Ural Mountains so this also proves that Transylvania and Pannonia are not Hungarian. They both were parts of the Roman Empire in the ancient time, so they can't be Hungarian.
Vii ciuda asai ca n-eam luat pamantu inapoi 'tuva-n gat de jigodii, cum ati vrea voi Ardealu, da nici morti nu va lasa-m sa-l mai luati gunoailor. Veniti priviti si mars inpoi in Ungaria !
Nu are rost sa folositi cuvinte obscene ca sa va exprimati, oricum toti care au invatat un pic de istorie stiu ca in Transilvania populatia romana este majoritara doar dupa al doilea razboi mondial cand comunistii au colonizat aceste locuri cu romani din Moldova si Oltenia.Inainte de tratatul de la Trianon Transilvania nu a fost al romanilor niciodata si nici nu au fost populatie majoritara, cei care spun contrariul vorbesc aberatii.In anul 900cand au intrat maghiarii in Transilvania,unde erati?
@mailinger In Benedek Jancsó's estimation, there were 150,000 Hungarians, 100,000 Saxons, and 250,000 Romanians in Transylvania at the beginning of the 18th century. Fényes Elek, Hungarian statistician of the nineteenth century, estimated in 1842 that the population of Transylvania years 1830-1840 the majority were 62.3% Romanians and 23.3% Hungarians.
@11ddaann Thank you for the information, I am still questioning why none of the romanian polutation of that time rised a war against hungarians if they were so many and if they were so unhappy because of the hungarian ocupation.I dont know about any war between romanians and hungarians in Transilvania.All i know is that romanians stood on the side of hungarians at the beginning of both world wars,but at the end romanians switched sides just to get Transilvania as reward for helping the russians
@mailinger nu a avut loc nici o miscare de eliberare nationala pentru ca ideea de natiune nu era inca cristalizata in evul mediu, oamenii se identificau mai ales prin apartenenta sociala (nobili, iobagi) si prin religie, nu prin aparteneta etnica.
@11ddaann I call this kind of conduct what romanians did in second world war as cowardice and betrayal for your allies.You gave up your alliance just to ensure that russians will guarantee Transilvania as a reward for your "brave" effort.Believe me that germans will never forget and forgive the things romanians did during the war.I feel ashamed that i have to live in a country with such a bad reputation, I am transilvanian and I am proud of it,but not when it is forced to be called Romania
@mailinger Inainte de primul razboi mondial, România a fost un aliat al Austro-Ungariei si al Germaniei. În conformitate cu termenii alianţei dintre cele două state, România era obligată să intre în război numai dacă aliatul austro-ungar era atacat. Când a izbucnit războiul, România a considerat că Austria a fost agresorul, statul care a declanşat războiul şi, prin urmare, Bucureştiul nu era obligat să se alăture efortului de război al aliatului său.
@mailinger Nu exista onoare cand e vorba de razboi. Ca sa-ti dau un singur exemplu, Germania de care vorbesti a incalcat fara pic de rusine neutralitatea Belgiei in primul razboi mondial
This show very well, that Romanians destroyed the historical grown ethnic structure of the urban civilization. Which were the culturally and politic centers.
@RaisingTurul I don't understand your point. Of course in urban areas the Hungarians were in majority, because the access of the Romanians was almost closed due to the fact that Hungarian was the only language used in administration and internal affairs.
Tax collection from the medieval indicate a Hungarian overweight. 16th Century a quarter were Hungarians,Szeklers, Saxons & Vlachs. The proportion of ethnic groups undoubtedly changed in the rural population and in light of the Mongol and Turkish invasions it is understandable. However this not make Transilvania Romanian, nor will it make Dosza Gyorgy (Ghorghe Doja) or Antal Nagy de Buda (Rascoale de Babolna) to Vlachs. Also don´t forget that Moldova 14th had 1/3 catholics -> Ger&Hu
@11ddaann nobles didn´t pay taxes -> See Szeklers. Valachians are villiains? Not all i think ;) Valachians were free from the catholic tenth but the other taxes they hat to pay. About Hungarians in Moldavia you can read the Chronicles of Cantemir and Ureche. There is mentionent the sattlements of hungarians such as Suceava (city of furriers) and Germans in Judetul Neamt. Also mentioned are the Reszes (partowners), the hungarian lower nobiliy...the forbidden catholic faith... etc.
Regardless of what happened 500, 1000 or 2000 years ago, both Hungarians and Romanians have the historical right to consider Transylvania their home land, because both peoples lived there for centuries. The Romanians have always been in majority, so it makes that Transylvania should belong to Romania. However the Hungarian contribution to the progress and civilization of this region cannot be ignored.
Ez még egy régi kommentre válasz,de a lényeg az, hogy azért van rengeteg településen mára román többség, mert rengeteg magyart börtönbe vetettek és megöltek Trianon után, és pl fizetéssel kényszerítették őket arra, hogy románosítsák a nevüket.
I write for an old comment, in old town /cities are many romanians because the government killed many of us and forced them to change their last names to romaninan
Prea multa discutie cu si despre bozgori ! Va rog traduceti in ungureste mesajul meu oficial si important catre toti bozgorii care vor Transilvania la Hungaria (Please translate in to magyar my message to all hungarian how whant Transilvania). Nestimabili bozgori ! De cate mii de ani am umblat prin muntii astia Apuseni si Carpati ca ciobani ce suntem, noi romanii am strans suficienta branza sa ne-o sugeti de sub pielea p..lii sa ne-o faceti curata cand va regulam toate curvele inca 1000 de ani
Azt vélték, hogy ők Traianus hadseregének leszármazottai. A románok számára ez nagyjelentőséggel bírt, mert a dákok állama a 19. szdi román területeket tartalmazta. A románok így 2500 éves helyben lakásra hivatkozhattak. De a római hadsereg a közigazgatással együtt teljes mértékben kivonult Dacia provinciából. Helyettük a középkorban görög nyelvű, balkani lakosság telepedett Kárpátok déli lejtőire. A román nyelv albán kapcsolatai arra mutatnak, hogy a román nyelv Illyria környékén alakult ki.
The gipsies are a tribe that migrated from Northern India into Europe without leaving a trace on the way.Coincidently or not, the magyars never left any trace on their way to Europe as well. although their "ancestors" left tons of traces in Asia and the Caucasus. Every other migratory tribe left a mark wherever they passed. I tried for a long time to find a different explanation, but the only logical explanation is that they are THE SAME TRIBE !
Salutare!Ungaria exista de mai bine de 1000 de ani pe cand Romania doar de 150.Au fost turci,rusi si alte nationalitati in Ungaria...insa cum au venit asa au si plecat...tot asa veti pleca si voi in cacat...fara Ardeal sunteti morti...pentru ca sunteti o natie de puturosi,ciobani,hoti...asta e imaginea voastra in Europa!Pute Europa de voi jegosilor!!!
Csatlakozzon az erdélyi kastélyok megmentéséért indított kezdeményezéshez!!! Küldjön be képeket, leírásokat a kastélyokhoz, frissítse a már fenntlévőket.
A világ megjobbítása Magyarországról máris elindult! A megvilágosultak az egész világon támogatnak minket. Nektek nem lesz jó, ha lemaradtok. Itt már nem lehet összevissza lavírozgatni. A hazugságok ideje lejárt! Az igazság ideje jött el, és bontakozik ki napról napra, és szorul vissza minden, ami hazug!
Tájékozódjatok, a neten sok-sok info van, ha a sziveddel keresel, akkor az igaz híreket találod meg!
Kedves román embertársaim! Ne gyalázzátok a magyart, mert a magyar Európa ősnépe, a magyar nyelv pedig a világ ősnyelve, belőle alakult ki az angol is és a lati is. Erre már bizonyítékok is vannak, csak nem propagálják, hogy tudatlanságban tartsanak. Bztos vagyok abban, hogy hamarosan eljön a nap, amikor büszlén és önként adjátok vissza azt, ami sohasem volt a tiétek!
Mi megbocsátunk, mert a magyar a szeretet és a tudás népe! Tanuljatok! Ne hagyjátok félrevezetni magatokat!
@szcseszcse this is Transilvania, this is ROMANIA, this is and will always remain ROMANIAN land, deal with it... you are only a minority... There's no way things will change in the future, so instead of posting anti-romanian propaganda extremism bullshit, try to do sth with your lives stop this chauvinist acts!
I am romanian..and I will always be proud of it regardless of how many stupid extremists are trying to invent bullshit-fake crap regarding our origins..they are just frustrated and mean and wonder how a latin people preserved its cultural and ethnic heritage in this space sourrounded by slavs and hunGAYrians, and probably how they couldn't keep for a longer period something which has been stolen from romanians for centuries:Transilvania!these videos are just non-sense it won't bring you anywhere
@g0blin11 Ce te aprinzi asa tare? Eu nici macar nu inteleg ce se canta. Inteleg doar ca omul e mandru de patria lui, Ardealul, care ne apartine tuturor celor care locuim aici, fie ca suntem romani sau maghiari.
And even now the rest of the country and especially south despises Transylvania without thinking that the country is nothing without Transylvania, here is the entire industry here is made all the money of the country and then goes to Bucuresti and those gypsies what give us instead? nothing!
Transilvania is the only part that worth, from romania, I'm only proud of being from Erdely, the rest of the country is just a parasite.
Every morning I curse the fate because I was born in Romania, I'm not proud of being from Romania, Romania destroyed Transilvania, Erdely, was great, civilized people and then was contamined with people from south and moldova stupid people without culture... I live in transilvania and every day I see how romanians destroy all that is beautiful, the whole culture for years wanting to replace it with their cultures which is egual to 0, now all the magyar culture is romanian... BULLSHIT!
It's amazing how a nation like Hungary who doesn't even originate in Europe has teritorial pretentions even now in 2010, and attention, they act as being "slaughtered" by the "monstrous" native inhabitants of these lands like Slovaks, Romanians or Serbs who just got their lands back at Trianon! Are you completely out of your mind? You Hungarians as a nation? Don't you have any shame to make such pretentions? I sincerely pity you
@ricsi99999 and retarded bozgor... Where is Transilvania located? Isn't it in Romania?... you wished you had such a beautiful land hunGAYrian fag.... Transilvania Pamant Romanesc!
sa ti iau neamul in pula de ungur borat,vreti transilvania?
luati la muie, nu iti dai seama ca asa ceva nu se poate?
daca prin absurd, leprele astea de la conducere ar ceda transilvania ungariei, nuti dai seama ca ar iesi baie de sange? s-ar ridica minim 15 milioane de romani si v-ar macelari pe voi bozgori imputiti, parazitilor...PROMIT SOLEMN CA II RUP CAPUL PRIMULUI BOZGOR PE CARE IL INTALNESC! HAHA
@benkecsaba17 , hai sa te intreb ceva prietene. Voi ziceti ca noi suntem pastori migratori din Balcani. Cum de nu exista nici o sursa in toata istoria Europeana despre migratia asta? Tu, asa, cu mintea ta, poti sa crezi ca cea mai numeroasa populatie traca, adica Dacii au disparut asa, s-au evaporat? Nici nu-i de mirare ca in afara Ungariei nimeni nu sustine teoria migratiei pt ca pur si simplu nu exista nici o consemnare despre migratia asta. Pana in secolul 18 nici macar nu exista teoria asta!
@Rencus03 si sa sugeti pula..daca erau.... ani de zile voi nu i-ati recunoscut pe romanii din Transilvania nici ca minoritate, cand ei erau totdeauna majoritari, si tot voi comentati taranilor ca v-am luat ceea ce era de fapt a nostru?? tot voi va plangeti acuma ca nu aveti drepturi cand nici n-ar trebui guvernu nostru sa va dea atatea?... mi-ar fi rusine sa vorbesc in locu nostru... exact prin comentarii de-astea demonstrati ca sunteti o rusine a Europei, o natie de cacat....
ferenczib-felicitari pentru acest video,este foarte reusit,imi plac imaginile puse de tine,i chiar fain video-ul,nu inteleg de ce atata cearta la un simplu video,oamenii cand nu au de lucru SE CEARTA PE INTERNET!!!
Frati romani ! Cimitire crestine din secolele VIII, IX, X au fost descoperite in Cluj, la Jucu. Reprezinta inca o veriga importanta in istoria noastra si o confirmare a cronicarului Anonymus despre existenta vlahilor inaintea venirii hunilor in Bazinul Carpatic. S-ar merita face un filmulet despre acest lucru si pus pe ytube. Cei de la Discovery Channel vor face un documentar. Iata si sursa articolului:
"We have houses, also a cemetery, from centuries IV-III before Christ. This way we can proove the existence of Dacians in that area from then until the Roman conquest and after. Nearby, there is another Dacian settlement from centuries IV-V after Christ , showing the continuity of Dacians through a millenium, in an areal of a few kilometers.", quote from Valeriu Sarbu, from National Museum of Eastern Carpathians
I can give you the source too, to see how much bullshit you say
@DerSzekler , what exactly do you think you're doing if you keep deluding yourself with this bullshit? Take a look in any history book outside Hungary from all Europe or any other place on this planet. Are you Hungarians so ignorant to think that such a big population of Dacians were simply exterminated? Why do you think we were called "Vlachs" from early times?. That means "of latin descent". Polish ppl still call the Italian "woloch". Got it dude? "Woloch-Vlach"
Are you sure he wasn't a gray alien? Man, there is no historian on this planet believing you, even in Hungary. Your statement is a perfect example of what the brainwashing has done with naive individuals like yourself.
"Szekely were of Hun, Avar descent... living there from 500a.d"
Before Huns arrived in the Carpathian basin, there lived Dacians. I can even point to Dacian archeological settlements in Covasna ( Transilvania ) from centuries IV-V
- The majority of historians from Europe and even Asia say that you're originally from Asia.
- Now we have genetic tests with a STILL 5% Asian genes remain in Hungarians.
And you say you're European? Why? To justify the atrocities commited over the Native people in these Areas and the fact that even today you try to steal our Ancient teritories? Guess what, you were never European and never will.
Your "Székely " were not even recognised as hungarians before 1990 by the Hungarian government. I wonder why. Oh yea, i get it now. Because they're NOT.
They're just magyarized Germans, Romanians or Slavs.
@DerSzekler , "1500 years hungarian ", where, in your dreams?
The first unification of Walachia-Transilvania-Moldavia ( Romania ) was in 1600, forgetting that? First waiewod of Transilvania was Leustachius, a Vlach forgetting that too? Most of the time Transilvania was a principate or under the Austro-Hungarian empire but it was never unified with Hungary, forgetting those too?
"The evidences can easyly used to proof that Székely are the dacians who weren´t romanizied till today"
Transilvania is an ancient Romanian Land, written in your own oldest hungarian chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum. There it's written:
"(IX.) ... in terra Pannonie, que primo Athile regis terra fuisset ... quam terram habitarent Slavi, Bulgarii, et Blachii ac pastores Romanorum."
The content of Gesta Hungarorum it's also repeated by Chronicon Dubnicense, Chronicon Posoniense, Anna Komnenos, Antonio Bonfini; Filip Callimachus and all the humanists. What you say is complete bullshit.
@DerSzekler , "Transilvania old hungarian homeland"
Amigo, you are a complete lunatic. Your own Gesta Hungarorum says that Romanians are before you in Transilvania. The ammount of brainwashing in Hungary is hilarous, too bad nobody gives a crap on your bizzare theories outside your country.
Start searching your origin from the Madjari tribe in Kazakhstan, they seem to share a lot of genetics with Hungarians. I wonder why. Arrivederci
"Analysis of the genetic distance between Romanians and other Europeans who have been studied serologically are consistent with the hypothesis that Romanians descend from Roman ancestors who colonized Dacia between the 1st century B.C. and 1st century A.D."
U.S. National Library of Medicine
Source: ncbi(.)nlm(.)nih(.)gov/pubmed/1542880
Amigo, Hungary is like a parasite in the Central and Eastern Europe. For the atrocities you have commited you deserve a Holocaust.
@gogoasacenusie For the record I've been to your region Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine...i was beautiful, but i hope to god that not everyone is a bigot cocksucker like you. Nobody deserves a holocaust "amigo" and just by saying so you proved that you'll always twist arguments in your favor because you think so highly of yourself. And your not the only one from Romania that does that on youtube...so i guess 1-0 for Hungary from this standpoint.
@lights8811 , for the record you don't know shit about the history in this region. I invite you to see my vids from concrete historical sources and see with your own eyes the truth. There is no "score" here to record. This is pure history and these are ancient Romanian teritories. I also invite you to check the thousands of crimes commited by hungarian Horthy against Slovaks, Romanians or Serbs. And if this is not enough, google "Magyarization" and see if you still love hungarians the same.
@lights8811 , "your not the only one from Romania that does that on youtube"
Really? Look buddy, you are either hungarian either blind. Search for the TONES of hate vids of Hungarians, the Trianon revizionists, the imperialist psychos. We Romanians don't ask for teritories from Hungary! We don't have the right to respond to these extremist scums? 1-0 for Hungary? You keep scoring now? This IS HISTORY buddy. We judge by HISTORICAL FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA.!
@DerSzekler , "You find a christian tobs... and? "
And that confirms your own oldest chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum, in which is written that vlahs were working on the Somes Valley in the time of waiewod Gelu. Not to mention that we also have the genetic tests proving more than clear our Roman ancestry, so who cares what a brainwashed hungarian says? Comprende, DerShitcker?
Anonymus writed the most detailed chronicle about the conquest of transilvania. Acc to him, the natives were romanians(known as blachs or olah), but i guess it doesen't count when you're a hungarian patriot/nationalist ...
My girlfriend is Hungarian and she agrees with me that Hungary deserved to lose Transylvania. Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia and paid the price. If Hungary was happy to take someone else's land by force then don't complain if the Russians and British take yours afterwards.
In Austro-Hungary the Austrian political power was stronger. If the war succes Serbia will be the part of the Austro-Hungary but not to the Hungarian Kingdom.
The only leader who didnt supported the war in Austro-Hungary and Germany was Tisza István.
When hungary lost 2/3 of its terriotories the so called little-antant made a genocide against hungarians.
@Zikhajj That's what happened when the Hungarians got into bed with the Austrians. Tisza was against it but soon agreed to commit the Hungarian army in the war. Big mistake.
@wikichris I must say second time: you need to learn history. Got into bed with austrians? Do you know what is revolution? We made it against them. What is freedom fight? We did it 2 against them.
in 1848-49 Hungary a small(in territory and population) could win against the Habsburg dinasty if the Russianc czar dont help them.
We didnt in this nation because we so liked it.
Afterall I can say to the jews to holocaust is a big mistake of you. But i dont. Im not so tactless foul.
The so called little antant states are Czehslovakia, Romania and Serb-Croatian-Slovanian kingdom are often called as Shakespeare made States because of their tale like political legitimacy and their laughable history.
Fact : Hungary lost their territories because the merciless of winners and the secret aggreement beetwen these nations.Maybe you know Vae Victus(roman saying) was the only one idea of the peace-ultimatum what ended the war.
@Zikhajj no.... hungary lost territoreis stolen for centuries in which hungarians were a minority just like transylvania (romanian majority), northen part( slovak majority) and southen part (slavic majority).... u extremists all beg for the treaty of trianon and say thath 3.3 million hungarians were left out of their country.... have u ever thought of the 5 million romanians in Transylvania that were under the hungarian occupation for almost 1000 years?? Trianon made justice! Viva Trianon!
OK. If the romanians were present in Transilvaniain the VIII-XII century certainly you can list ca 5 but 1 also enogh settlements where romanians lived that time and you can prove it!!!!!! Hard job. Helf for the romanian historants because even they can not show 1. The daco-romanian continuitz theory aspecially in transilvania is a dream.....Nothing else.
@MrFefefofo , In the city of Cluj, at Jucu, christian tombs from centuries VIII, IX, X have been found. The discoveries were made accidentaly when the Nokia company came. Discovery Channel will make a documentary about this because of its big signifiance.
It's signifiance i think it's obvious for us Romanians. I wonder what you sick minded hungarian think about this.
@gogoasacenusie so christian....but not romanian....Christian cemeteries were found everywhere in the charpatian basin. They were slavs mostly.....Before christmas in Zalavar wirtten text has been found probalby fro Cirill-Method wrote it themselves.
@MrFefefofo! That confirms your own oldest chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum, in which is written that vlahs were working on the Somes Valley in the time of waiewod Gelu !
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Csoki196 3 weeks ago
@Daniel23Ciutac Tu cand o sa inceapa paruiala sa fugi cu ea. Voi veti locui aici, un nou popor cum noi nu vrem...Un popor ce va vorbi romano-ungara si va fi mai puternic si mai intelept. Noi o sa ne omoram ca prostii intre noi din cauza mandriei ungurilor si indaratniciei noastre...dar asta ne este soarta, nu ai ce face...
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
@Daniel23Ciutac, sorry, could u translate me pls?
pachycephalos 1 month ago
...and in lots of waves during the 20th century, till the and of Ceausescu.
This was UNFAIR, and to took everything from Hungarians there. BUT it is history!!! Now, time to behave normally and think - not to believe everything, what lies were told to keep together Romania - it will be whole, but Romanians should see the other side of the coin - cos each one has TWO sides.
pachycephalos 1 month ago
Of course, in these safe and developing cities, Romanian literature,culture were developing taken over the Monarchy's wings. But nowadays, a lot of Romanians on youtube and in life are not even thankful because of these - as all along the 20th century, they trying to stab on the back the Hungarians, cos they let them grow? Romanians are using the cities and buildings of Hungarian and German architecturers. Romanians, who r mostly pushed to move to Transylvania by the government after 1920....
pachycephalos 1 month ago
In that period (around 1880-1910). Romanians came to Transylvania - i've never said that there weren't native Romanians, but much-more less, then romanian history-tales saying.
But as the Monarchy/Hungary was growing, developing, there were much better opportunities to use, therefore Romanians were migrating there. And everybody lived peacefully. (Germans, Hungarians, Romanians,Slavs, Jews, etc.)
pachycephalos 1 month ago
In 1880 (including Transylvania and the others) the 21% of the Hungarian population (mother tongue NOT nationality was Hungarian), the 17% of the German population, the 3,5% of the Romanian population were living in cities. The first two built up the civic life. There were no forced and other kinda "magyarization" - especially not like romanianization all along the 20th century, built up from 1920.
In 1910 these numbers: 27% of Hungarians and 4,2% Romanians lived in cities.
pachycephalos 1 month ago
@pachycephalos OMG! My frined dont joke with that! The Magyarization proces was recognized for this period even by yours historians...so please dont say that!Let see..the Apony law from 1907, in only 5 years, 320 Romanian schools, 10,76% from a total of 2975 schools were closed!another?Dieta from Sibiu 1863 we are present but you fear us and in 1867, manage to block us. In this period Germans from Satu Mare were all magyarized...Read "Das Deutschtum in Siebenburgen"pages 81-88,in Siebenburgen,I.
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
Let's have a look at the facts: in the 16-17th century most of the romanian shepherds started to settle down in Transylvania cos of the better oportunities - cos Hungarians and Saxons started to move into the cities, trading, setting up manufactures, etc. At the same time romanian shepherds even had difficulties to get used to the setteled-down lifestyle. Hungarians and Saxons started to build up the cities' civic life...facts r the folowwing:
pachycephalos 1 month ago
@pachycephalos Facts: Three waves of Romanians run from Pannonia and Maramures ( I ask my self why?) from 1438 until 1570. First: 1438-1478 run in Polish kingdom and form here 71 villages!!!! Second wave: 1492-1500 also in Poland - 14 villages!!!! Third 1508-1550 they form in Poland ...123 villages!!!! Those come from Bistrita-Nasaud, Maramures, Satmar, Salaj, Bihor, Ugocea and Bereg comitates.
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
@pachycephalos Another fact: the military compendium made from Sigismund of Luxemburg at Timisoara, for the crusaders who join his crusade. In this compendium we sow Transylvania and Valahia having 9 factories for making cannons! We Romanians and Hungarians have this weapons in the same time with westerners.Important is a map of Transylvania who is called ...Walachia UltraSilvana, Romanian Country is Walachia Magna and Moldavia ...Walachia Minor.
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
@pachycephalos Another fact: two documents from king Bela 1256 and 1262, show Romanians in Pannonia and in the same time show the Szeklers living also in Pannonia in year 1000. They will come after this period in Transylvania.
I can show you also a document from Biblioteca Vaticana were we are called by Pope Romanians in 1354. You know in time of Ludovic the Great, Pope was close to make us Catholics? You know who stop bishops to go in Tara Romaneasca and Moldova? Ludovic! Ask your self why?
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
...and I thought that would find a video about Transylvania whitout any hater comments, doesn't matter if it's Romanians or Hungarians, but I see I thought it wrong...guys, just live together as friends, the past doesn't matter, now Transylvania is the home of many nations, and nobody can't change it, I don't hate anybody, exception this haters...
All have to do, that go and find Hungarian/Romanian, and come to know him...we're people, just then a member of a nation...
sekler001 1 month ago
@sekler001, nice idea, let Hungarians live there their hungarian life - cos we r natives there
pachycephalos 1 month ago
@pachycephalos, peace and doing right things together for eachother are the most important things
pachycephalos 1 month ago
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sekler001 1 month ago
Made by Hungary
Bojo614 1 month ago
@Daniel23Ciutac sa fii sanatos cu prietena ta! Daca tu permiti la niste unguri sa protesteze in tara ta.. ca vor tinutul secuiesc si ce mai vor ei atunci impacate tu cu ei... du pa ce ca au drepturi mai au si ciocu mare.. e ca si cum ar venii un neamt in austria si vrea sa puna mana pe tara... trezitiva romanilor care ati ramas si iesiti pe strada!!!!!!!!
MegaLuciano19 2 months ago
Aki magyarul beszél , magyarul mond imát az magyar marad ameddig él. Még a moldvai csángók is féltve őrizték magyarságukat. Köszönjük nekik.
4856lavender 3 months ago 2
Gyönyörű vidék és magyar terület . MAGYAR TÖRTÉNELME VAN ERDÉLYNEK. ENNÉL TÖBB NEM KELL AZT GONDOLOM. Magyar szív és magyar szó.
4856lavender 3 months ago
kevés olyan román (vagy vlach) van Erdélyben akik már rég itt élnek. A legtöbbet Ceaușescu telepitette be.
Szauroniusz 4 months ago
UGYVAN TESTVER
TheLaszlo96 4 months ago
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OUNCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS A BEUTIFULL GIRL NAMED -TRANSYLVANIA -
IN 1919 SHE PREPARE HERSELF FOR WEDDING.
SHE DRESSED A BEUTIFULL WEDDING GOWN, AND PUT HIS GOLD COIN NECKLACE .
AT HIS WEDDING INSTEED A HANDSOME BRIDEGROOM, CAME FOREIGN WALACHIAN GYPSIES AND OUTLAWS WHICH RAPPED HER MANY YEARS FROM THAN.
VIOLENTLY TOOK HIS NECKLACE AND THE BRIDE GOWN WAS SOLD IN BUCHAREST FOR PENNIES.
NOW, EVERYBODDY IN THE WORLD KNOW HER AS "DRACULA's MISTRESS".
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PLEASE, FREE TRANSYLVANIA!!!
Sylvanian1000 5 months ago
Úgy van!!
TheBnmmm 5 months ago
Fuck ROMANIA!!!!!!!!Erdely a magyaroke volt es az is marad...ha nem papiron de lelekben IGEN!!!!
tasterusz 5 months ago
Hail Avram Iancu! Hail Ardeal! Hail to all romanian revolutionaries who died for the independence of Transylvania, romanian land.
cumatamare 5 months ago
Transilvania Romania land!
al3csandru89 6 months ago 5
@al3csandru89 <- Dacus Vlachus Stupidus Maximus XD
RaisingTurul 5 months ago
universitas sicolorum natio nobile! terra sicolorum patria hungarus! romani ite domum!
presumptuosam astuciam diversorum malefactorum, specialiter Olachorum, in ipsa terra nostra existencium exterminandum seu delendum in ipsa terra malefactores quarumlibet nacionum, signanter Olachorum
vlah = țigan latinizat!
look at the coat of arms you uneducated provocant gypsy, and you will see witch are the constitutional nations of Transylvania: Hungarians, Szeklers and Saxons!!!
RaisingTurul 2 months ago
@RaisingTurul Quindam est vos spurcanem? Quisque est barbarus alio!
Reed first known documents about Transylvania Council or Dieta from 1288, you will see 4 noble nations, same in 1291. Romanians are the 4-th nation presented.
Also this two documents from king Bela, years 1256 and 1262, you will discover Szeklers and Romanians in time of Szent Istfan pay taxes to Esztergom Diocese from the start. They are the Romanians from Pannonia and here are first Szeklers in year 1000! Sry your documents..
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
@RaisingTurul You have idea why Romanians are called like so? We resist to your religion and your low civilization. Pope and Catholicism was a good weapons to take our lands, to kill us and you have absolution from Pope no?
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
@al3csandru89, Romanian historians tend to accept that Menumorot was the "voivode" of Crişana, one of the Romanian incipient states on the territory of present-day Romania.[1][10][11] According to others he was a Khazar-Kabar ruler in Eastern Hungary. (Geata Hungarorum)
pachycephalos 1 month ago
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pachycephalos 1 month ago
@pachycephalos Menumorut is only a name, like Vlad or Basarab, like Litovoi or Seneslau. Is a used name in this period. Menumorut say this: Atila steal the land from his ancestors...so is older than Huns here. So is not a Khazar in my opinion. Can be a Romanian ... his argue send our thoughts.
Hungaroctonul 1 month ago
ERDÉLYT *****SZERETEM NAGYON******IDE EL SZERETNÉK JUTNI, REMÉLEM HAMAROSAN....*****ÜDV*****ÉVA
foreverwithyouable 6 months ago
LONG LIVE HUNGARY :) TRANSYLVANIA HUNGARIAN LAND!!! :)
pumpflex 6 months ago
@pumpflex FUCK HUNGAYRIA! Transilvania Pamant Romanesc!
g0blin11 5 months ago
@g0blin11 Lofaszt román terület, azért erdély többsége magyar nyelvü mi? Az a rohadék Ceaușescu telepitette be a sok cigány, szőrösnyelvű román faszkalapot!!!
Szauroniusz 4 months ago
discussing bullshit with ill Romanians i forgot to show my appreciation for this video. you chose a nice song. well done. thx
üdv. egy Brassói Székelytől külföldről!
RaisingTurul 6 months ago
Erdély az Erdély és MAGYAR volt mindig is!
synthmix1 6 months ago
Roman = Cigany , Hataron tuli Magyarok = Testverek ! Akarhogy is hadakoznak meg mocskolodnak , mert ahhoz a romak ertenek mint tudott , itt kokemeny tenyek igazoljak egykori Orszaghatarainknak 1920 ban valo eltorleset ! Kitartas a hataron tuliaknak !
15jani15 7 months ago
Na ne erölködj drága,még a végén fel megy a vérnyomásod,ez Erdély érted..ERDÉLY!!!!!amugy szép video,gyönyörű az én hazám.
heureka6 7 months ago
Ardealul pământ românesc! Nu uitaţi, bozgorilor!!! La trianon nouă, românilor ni s-a făcut o nedreptate! Aţi primit jumătate din Crişana! Mai lătraţi ca nişte javre că vreţi Transilvania înapoi, când defapt noi trebuie să ne luăm înapoi jumătatea aceea care aparţine Crişanei!
Pentru cultura voastră generală, Ungaria nu a fost NICIODATĂ A VOASTRĂ! Câmpia Panoniei a fost locuită de Daci! Panonia este PĂMÂNT ROMÂNESC! TOATĂ UNGARIA ESTE PĂMÂNT ROMÂNESC!
TransilvaniaROU 7 months ago
@TransilvaniaROU ai vrea tu ... :D Erdély , világ legszebb tája:)
Rencus03 6 months ago
@Rencus03 Da, aşa-i. Aş vrea eu! Dar măcar eu am Ardealul, voi aveţi pula! Ha ha!
TransilvaniaROU 6 months ago
@TransilvaniaROU yeah soon you will say you are autochton in whole europe, because you are homo erectus romanus, The romanians there living are remaining latin people from the neoliticum :D
When you will unit the the vlach principalities Romanospain, Fracoromani, Italoromani to big Imperium Valachia and conquer the rest of Europe?
Transylvania is romanian, you are so ill:) Even the name is not romanians, look at at the coat of armes then you know... The heart beats hungarian (HarCov)!
RaisingTurul 6 months ago
@RaisingTurul The name Erdely have no hugarian origin! You transform teh world Ardeal into Erdely
TransilvaniaROU 6 months ago
Erdelw is the first written down form... with sense of in front of forest later beyond the forest...
Erdőd → Ardud, Egres → Agrus; Egyed → Adjud; Esküllő → Aşchileu; Erdőfalva → Ardeova
the names in transsilvania are -> Slavic/Hungarian -> German -> Romanian.
Because the Romanians were the last immigrants.
ex. Belgrad-Gyulafehervar-(Weißenburg)-Alba Julia. remarkable is that in all languages except Romanian it means White Castle
but Romanians didn´t like the truth so they falsify & deny
RaisingTurul 6 months ago
@RaisingTurul Hungarian fake history!
TransilvaniaROU 6 months ago
Unguri!dar voi de ce coborati la nivelul acestori ciobani,ei vorbesc numai de fute si de muie si de toate acestia,acestia nu stiu sa vorbeasca civilizat,asa au fost ei invatati,nici limba lor nu le folosesc cu demnitate vorbesc numai cu baai...si maai,ma dezgusta cand le aud vorbind,si cat despre Erdély voi stiti ca e al neamului nostru de deceni asa ca lasati pe ciobani astia sa spuna ce vor.simtitiva acasa aici oricand ca nu noi suntem oaspeti ci ei.am scris in romana sa inteleaga si prosti.
heureka6 7 months ago
Jelen pillanatban Erdely ROMANIAHOZ (es nem Magyarorszaghoz) tartozik !
Ceausistul 7 months ago
fuck romania
49frzcvlreturn 7 months ago
@49frzcvlreturn FUCK HunGAYria!
TransilvaniaROU 7 months ago
@TransilvaniaROU Fuck romania :))) Stolen country... and nothing history x)))
pumpflex 6 months ago
@pumpflex idem for u, hunGAYrian shit! Fuck HunGAYria!
TransilvaniaROU 6 months ago
Learn to say it in Romanian: Ardeal. As long as it is Romanian territory, you will call it by our name, or by the latin name: Transylvania.
If you consider that the lands belong to you, come and fight for them, stop creating propagandistic videos.
Be men and fight for what is yours. Don't be propagandistic pussies. And by the way, get your Vardariote brothers from Skopje, now they believe they are Greeks, like you believe you are Romanians.
I also suggest you continue your migration.
shockolanu 7 months ago
You never used latin language and latin letters in the Middle Ages.
You always used SLAVIC with Cyrilic.
Do not falsify your HISTORY that what you are doing for the last 100 myears.
The only Printed Material you had that was in 1546 in BRASSO HUNGARY and even that was CYRYLIC but at least it was printed.
REMEMBER, BRASSO now is BRASOV but only after 1920.
Befor it was BRASSO- KRONTADT-CORONA.
lugano288 7 months ago
Ardeal in rumanian is only a fonetic form of the Hungarian Erdely, in rumanian doesn't mean anything.
Transylvania is a Latin Word, because the written language in Hungary ( and most of Europe ) in the Middle Ages was LATIN, same time the rumanians used slavic language with CYRILIC LETTERS, they switched to Latin Letters only at the beginning of the XIX Century.All the names in Transylvania are of Hungarian Origin ( Brasso-Brasov, Szeben-Sibiu, Szasz Sebes-Sebes, Segesvar-Sighisoara and so on )
lugano288 7 months ago
@lugano288 you are so stupid like all hunGAYrian extremists... first of all you don't know SHIT about Romanian history and Transylvania... and yes retard... it's "ROmanian" not "rumanian", we are direct descendands of latins and dacians : is this simple coincidence of names to you?? "Roman Empire - Rome (capital of the Roman Empire) - ROMANIA(our country)" which has this name since 1859 because since then romanians lived in 3 provinces : Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania....
g0blin11 7 months ago
singurul lucru ce nu inteleg eu aici... cum mama dracu au reusit latinii sa romanizeze dacii (dusmani fiind si dupa cucerirea Daciei) in 101 ani; si nu au reusit in 600 de ani sa romanizeze truburile germane sau britanice .... chestia asta daco-romana e o mare porcarie inventata de ceausescu si istoricii lui; romanii se trag de undeva din zona albaniei sau poate dupa unele surse romanii adunau raufacatorii din imperiu si le lasau in Dacia pentru ca a ramas teritoriu nepopulat dupa retragere.
zaszloszoltan 6 months ago
@zaszloszoltan asta probabil e istoria predata in varianta voastra ungureasca..cum le-am mai zis si la altii.. sunteti prea frustrati sa admiteti adevaru... ati fost mereu minoritari pe pamantul romanesc Transilvania..nici politicile voastre de ultra-maghiarizare a romanilor de acolo nu au facut sa se schimbe radical lucrurile..tot niste frustrati ati ramas... ti se pare coincidenta ca in toate provinciile care v-au fost luate la trianon erau romanii, slovacii, ruthenii si austriecii majoritari?
g0blin11 6 months ago
@g0blin11 this shows only that you have no idea of history. that hungarian were minority in several parts of the kingdom was a development. otherwise after 1526 transilvania had been a vlach state... tax documents estimade 20-25 % of romanians in transilvania in this time. Romanians ingnore this fact, like the 1000year so called dark age in romanian history books: 200AD-1200AD :) its only dark for you, the gots, gepids and avaric pasts in transilvania are enough proofed & we HU are still here !
RaisingTurul 5 months ago
@g0blin11 that is not only Hungarian history, this is world history. I live in Germany reading history in 4 languages. German, English and Hungarian the same, but Romanian... You have have Romanian settlements till today in Greek-> Aromani. Yeah Romanians are Romans but EAST ROMANS. You know how herodot described the Dacians? Blond with blue eyes? Yeah hungarians are often blond and blue eyed like I! . So i´m a Daco-Hungarian and like my ancient Daco forefathers said: Romani ite domum!!!! :))
RaisingTurul 5 months ago
WE've only used cyrilic alphabet in holy books and in the Orthodox Church documents and scriptures, writings... We've always used the latin alphabet , all the literature books which date from medieval times from famous romanian chronicars like G Ureche, M Costin or D Cantemir were written in with latin letters... you only think this because you are thought extremist history in your bullshit bozgorian schools... , you never admitted that romanians have always been the majority in transylvania
g0blin11 7 months ago
@g0blin11 Ureche Costin Cantemir studyied and worked in Poland where latin alphabet was used like in Hungaria therfore they not wrote cyrilic.
And if you read their works you know that moldavia is also hungarian land, and towns like suceava (City of furriers), bacau (executive) and orhei (place of watching) are of hungarian origin like the most settlements in Moldavia.
And they till today have their ancient hungarian name, but corrupted into romanian.
RaisingTurul 6 months ago
The Kingdom of Hungary was a long time ago! No other country dreams of its older borders. So Hungarians like living in the past. And even the name "Erdely" (Romanian: Ardeal) is or Romanian-Dacian (Thracian) origin, so this shows who was there the first. Hungarians came from the Ural Mountains so this also proves that Transylvania and Pannonia are not Hungarian. They both were parts of the Roman Empire in the ancient time, so they can't be Hungarian.
Ceausistul 7 months ago
Vii ciuda asai ca n-eam luat pamantu inapoi 'tuva-n gat de jigodii, cum ati vrea voi Ardealu, da nici morti nu va lasa-m sa-l mai luati gunoailor. Veniti priviti si mars inpoi in Ungaria !
jestersunshine 8 months ago
muie la unguri si la unguri din transilvania si muie la toti care se zic romani si stau de partea bozgorilor borati
proimsat 8 months ago
Nu are rost sa folositi cuvinte obscene ca sa va exprimati, oricum toti care au invatat un pic de istorie stiu ca in Transilvania populatia romana este majoritara doar dupa al doilea razboi mondial cand comunistii au colonizat aceste locuri cu romani din Moldova si Oltenia.Inainte de tratatul de la Trianon Transilvania nu a fost al romanilor niciodata si nici nu au fost populatie majoritara, cei care spun contrariul vorbesc aberatii.In anul 900cand au intrat maghiarii in Transilvania,unde erati?
mailinger 8 months ago
@mailinger In Benedek Jancsó's estimation, there were 150,000 Hungarians, 100,000 Saxons, and 250,000 Romanians in Transylvania at the beginning of the 18th century. Fényes Elek, Hungarian statistician of the nineteenth century, estimated in 1842 that the population of Transylvania years 1830-1840 the majority were 62.3% Romanians and 23.3% Hungarians.
11ddaann 8 months ago
@11ddaann Thank you for the information, I am still questioning why none of the romanian polutation of that time rised a war against hungarians if they were so many and if they were so unhappy because of the hungarian ocupation.I dont know about any war between romanians and hungarians in Transilvania.All i know is that romanians stood on the side of hungarians at the beginning of both world wars,but at the end romanians switched sides just to get Transilvania as reward for helping the russians
mailinger 8 months ago
@mailinger nu a avut loc nici o miscare de eliberare nationala pentru ca ideea de natiune nu era inca cristalizata in evul mediu, oamenii se identificau mai ales prin apartenenta sociala (nobili, iobagi) si prin religie, nu prin aparteneta etnica.
11ddaann 8 months ago
@11ddaann I call this kind of conduct what romanians did in second world war as cowardice and betrayal for your allies.You gave up your alliance just to ensure that russians will guarantee Transilvania as a reward for your "brave" effort.Believe me that germans will never forget and forgive the things romanians did during the war.I feel ashamed that i have to live in a country with such a bad reputation, I am transilvanian and I am proud of it,but not when it is forced to be called Romania
mailinger 8 months ago
@mailinger Inainte de primul razboi mondial, România a fost un aliat al Austro-Ungariei si al Germaniei. În conformitate cu termenii alianţei dintre cele două state, România era obligată să intre în război numai dacă aliatul austro-ungar era atacat. Când a izbucnit războiul, România a considerat că Austria a fost agresorul, statul care a declanşat războiul şi, prin urmare, Bucureştiul nu era obligat să se alăture efortului de război al aliatului său.
11ddaann 8 months ago
@mailinger Nu exista onoare cand e vorba de razboi. Ca sa-ti dau un singur exemplu, Germania de care vorbesti a incalcat fara pic de rusine neutralitatea Belgiei in primul razboi mondial
11ddaann 8 months ago
@11ddaann yes you are right.
But take in account the following numbers in 1900/1910:
Oradea 90% Hu/ Arad 73% Hu/ Timisoara 38% Hu & 44% Ger/ Cluj 82%/ Alba Julia 45% Hu & 44% Ro/ Brasov 43 % Hu, 29 % Ro, 26 Ger/ Tirgu Mures 82%, Sigisoara 47 % Ger, 26% Ro, 23% Hu; Sibiu 53% Ger, 27 % Ro, 19% Hu.
This show very well, that Romanians destroyed the historical grown ethnic structure of the urban civilization. Which were the culturally and politic centers.
RaisingTurul 8 months ago in playlist Erdely ~ Transylvania
@RaisingTurul I don't understand your point. Of course in urban areas the Hungarians were in majority, because the access of the Romanians was almost closed due to the fact that Hungarian was the only language used in administration and internal affairs.
11ddaann 8 months ago
Tax collection from the medieval indicate a Hungarian overweight. 16th Century a quarter were Hungarians,Szeklers, Saxons & Vlachs. The proportion of ethnic groups undoubtedly changed in the rural population and in light of the Mongol and Turkish invasions it is understandable. However this not make Transilvania Romanian, nor will it make Dosza Gyorgy (Ghorghe Doja) or Antal Nagy de Buda (Rascoale de Babolna) to Vlachs. Also don´t forget that Moldova 14th had 1/3 catholics -> Ger&Hu
RaisingTurul 8 months ago in playlist Erdely ~ Transylvania
@RaisingTurul
Why do you mean by tax payers? Taxes paid by noble families to the king? However I don't think villains are included here...
"Moldova 14th had 1/3 catholics -> Ger&Hu " - can you please show me a source for this information?
11ddaann 8 months ago
@11ddaann nobles didn´t pay taxes -> See Szeklers. Valachians are villiains? Not all i think ;) Valachians were free from the catholic tenth but the other taxes they hat to pay. About Hungarians in Moldavia you can read the Chronicles of Cantemir and Ureche. There is mentionent the sattlements of hungarians such as Suceava (city of furriers) and Germans in Judetul Neamt. Also mentioned are the Reszes (partowners), the hungarian lower nobiliy...the forbidden catholic faith... etc.
RaisingTurul 6 months ago
shut the fuck up! bitches
biudd 8 months ago
Szép videó!
bantabas 9 months ago
dupa o mie de ani de trait impreuna si tot...
siebenburgenalin 9 months ago
i'm just curious what song this is. It sounds very beautiful..
keigezellig 9 months ago
@keigezellig The song is from BIKINI - KÖZELI HELYEKEN!
benegabee 9 months ago
Regardless of what happened 500, 1000 or 2000 years ago, both Hungarians and Romanians have the historical right to consider Transylvania their home land, because both peoples lived there for centuries. The Romanians have always been in majority, so it makes that Transylvania should belong to Romania. However the Hungarian contribution to the progress and civilization of this region cannot be ignored.
giubica1 10 months ago
frumoasa transilvania, frumoasa ROMANIA
heyko123 10 months ago
ce frumoasa ii Romania:X:X:
gabriella90ady5 11 months ago
Ez még egy régi kommentre válasz,de a lényeg az, hogy azért van rengeteg településen mára román többség, mert rengeteg magyart börtönbe vetettek és megöltek Trianon után, és pl fizetéssel kényszerítették őket arra, hogy románosítsák a nevüket.
I write for an old comment, in old town /cities are many romanians because the government killed many of us and forced them to change their last names to romaninan
dAirborn3b 11 months ago
@dAirborn3b bozgor
unomnacajit111 9 months ago
Prea multa discutie cu si despre bozgori ! Va rog traduceti in ungureste mesajul meu oficial si important catre toti bozgorii care vor Transilvania la Hungaria (Please translate in to magyar my message to all hungarian how whant Transilvania). Nestimabili bozgori ! De cate mii de ani am umblat prin muntii astia Apuseni si Carpati ca ciobani ce suntem, noi romanii am strans suficienta branza sa ne-o sugeti de sub pielea p..lii sa ne-o faceti curata cand va regulam toate curvele inca 1000 de ani
vincereee 11 months ago
Azt vélték, hogy ők Traianus hadseregének leszármazottai. A románok számára ez nagyjelentőséggel bírt, mert a dákok állama a 19. szdi román területeket tartalmazta. A románok így 2500 éves helyben lakásra hivatkozhattak. De a római hadsereg a közigazgatással együtt teljes mértékben kivonult Dacia provinciából. Helyettük a középkorban görög nyelvű, balkani lakosság telepedett Kárpátok déli lejtőire. A román nyelv albán kapcsolatai arra mutatnak, hogy a román nyelv Illyria környékén alakult ki.
luccjoska 1 year ago
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The gipsies are a tribe that migrated from Northern India into Europe without leaving a trace on the way.Coincidently or not, the magyars never left any trace on their way to Europe as well. although their "ancestors" left tons of traces in Asia and the Caucasus. Every other migratory tribe left a mark wherever they passed. I tried for a long time to find a different explanation, but the only logical explanation is that they are THE SAME TRIBE !
unomnacajit1 1 year ago
Aquincum = dacian city, Pannonia = dacian land. Immigrants out!!!
unomnacajit1 1 year ago
Fuck rumanian jegos people!!!
1978JoseManuel 1 year ago
Salutare!Ungaria exista de mai bine de 1000 de ani pe cand Romania doar de 150.Au fost turci,rusi si alte nationalitati in Ungaria...insa cum au venit asa au si plecat...tot asa veti pleca si voi in cacat...fara Ardeal sunteti morti...pentru ca sunteti o natie de puturosi,ciobani,hoti...asta e imaginea voastra in Europa!Pute Europa de voi jegosilor!!!
1978JoseManuel 1 year ago
Csatlakozzon az erdélyi kastélyok megmentéséért indított kezdeményezéshez!!! Küldjön be képeket, leírásokat a kastélyokhoz, frissítse a már fenntlévőket.
kastely.palyazatok.ro , castel.granturi.ro
KastelyErdelyben 1 year ago
eh,come on.Let"s be friends...really now.
costyca1985 1 year ago
Tedd fel magadnak a kérdést: miért támadják ősidők óta a magyart igaztalanul?
Honnan indul ki, kiktől a támadás? Kik akarják maguknak vindikálni a világősiséget, ami a magyar népé?
Ha megválaszolod magadnak a kérdéseket előbbre jutsz!
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nevikat 1 year ago
A világ megjobbítása Magyarországról máris elindult! A megvilágosultak az egész világon támogatnak minket. Nektek nem lesz jó, ha lemaradtok. Itt már nem lehet összevissza lavírozgatni. A hazugságok ideje lejárt! Az igazság ideje jött el, és bontakozik ki napról napra, és szorul vissza minden, ami hazug!
Tájékozódjatok, a neten sok-sok info van, ha a sziveddel keresel, akkor az igaz híreket találod meg!
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nevikat 1 year ago
Kedves román embertársaim! Ne gyalázzátok a magyart, mert a magyar Európa ősnépe, a magyar nyelv pedig a világ ősnyelve, belőle alakult ki az angol is és a lati is. Erre már bizonyítékok is vannak, csak nem propagálják, hogy tudatlanságban tartsanak. Bztos vagyok abban, hogy hamarosan eljön a nap, amikor büszlén és önként adjátok vissza azt, ami sohasem volt a tiétek!
Mi megbocsátunk, mert a magyar a szeretet és a tudás népe! Tanuljatok! Ne hagyjátok félrevezetni magatokat!
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nevikat 1 year ago
TRANSILVANIA PAMANT ROMANESC!
g0blin11 1 year ago
FUCK HunGAYria! Land of Bozgors! TRANSILVANIA IS ROMANIAN LAND FOR EVER! HUNGARIANS, GO BACK IN MONGOLIA!
TransilvaniaROU 1 year ago
@TransilvaniaROU we'll never go back in mongolia.....this is our home
szcseszcse 1 year ago
@szcseszcse This is Romanian Home! Mongolia is your home, mother fucker!
TransilvaniaROU 1 year ago
@szcseszcse Shit invader!
TransilvaniaROU 1 year ago
@szcseszcse this is Transilvania, this is ROMANIA, this is and will always remain ROMANIAN land, deal with it... you are only a minority... There's no way things will change in the future, so instead of posting anti-romanian propaganda extremism bullshit, try to do sth with your lives stop this chauvinist acts!
g0blin11 1 year ago
@ alex4ucj the Szeklers aren't peasants they are border guards against the turks
wishihadagun28 1 year ago
@wishihadagun28 ye, nice joke!
TransilvaniaROU 1 year ago
I am romanian..and I will always be proud of it regardless of how many stupid extremists are trying to invent bullshit-fake crap regarding our origins..they are just frustrated and mean and wonder how a latin people preserved its cultural and ethnic heritage in this space sourrounded by slavs and hunGAYrians, and probably how they couldn't keep for a longer period something which has been stolen from romanians for centuries:Transilvania!these videos are just non-sense it won't bring you anywhere
g0blin11 1 year ago 3
@g0blin11 dislike man!.you are such an idiot!
tolnai95csabi14 4 months ago
@g0blin11 Ce te aprinzi asa tare? Eu nici macar nu inteleg ce se canta. Inteleg doar ca omul e mandru de patria lui, Ardealul, care ne apartine tuturor celor care locuim aici, fie ca suntem romani sau maghiari.
NaViRo73 4 months ago 5
cat poate tine o unguroaica un cacat in ea?
raspuns: 9 luni!!!
dorisbforzainter 1 year ago
Nu va trece mult si presimt ca ne vom recapata pamantul dacilor(hungayria)
TheRomanianSoldier 1 year ago
@TheRomanianSoldier
pe ei si pe mama lor!
dorisbforzainter 1 year ago
I hate what Romania made to Transilvania
And even now the rest of the country and especially south despises Transylvania without thinking that the country is nothing without Transylvania, here is the entire industry here is made all the money of the country and then goes to Bucuresti and those gypsies what give us instead? nothing!
Transilvania is the only part that worth, from romania, I'm only proud of being from Erdely, the rest of the country is just a parasite.
lindastefi 1 year ago
@lindastefi parasit is hungayrian because stollen dacian land mother fucker
iamyourdeath25 1 year ago
@lindastefi
sa te calaresc iapa din mongolia ce esti!
dorisbforzainter 1 year ago
Every morning I curse the fate because I was born in Romania, I'm not proud of being from Romania, Romania destroyed Transilvania, Erdely, was great, civilized people and then was contamined with people from south and moldova stupid people without culture... I live in transilvania and every day I see how romanians destroy all that is beautiful, the whole culture for years wanting to replace it with their cultures which is egual to 0, now all the magyar culture is romanian... BULLSHIT!
lindastefi 1 year ago
@lindastefi
go home in mongolia BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
dorisbforzainter 1 year ago
The most beautiful province of Romania.
alex4ucj 1 year ago
It's amazing how a nation like Hungary who doesn't even originate in Europe has teritorial pretentions even now in 2010, and attention, they act as being "slaughtered" by the "monstrous" native inhabitants of these lands like Slovaks, Romanians or Serbs who just got their lands back at Trianon! Are you completely out of your mind? You Hungarians as a nation? Don't you have any shame to make such pretentions? I sincerely pity you
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
Transilvania Pamant Romanesc! you will always be the unwelcomed guests on romanian land (the chauvinist ones)!!!
g0blin11 1 year ago
I visited Romania last year.Lovely people and places.
TheLightingShadow 1 year ago
Romania is so beautiful...
IseedeadHungarians 1 year ago
@IseedeadHungarians
This is not romania. THIS IS ERDÉLY!
ricsi99999 1 year ago
@ricsi99999 Yeah, u wish. U know, I wish u were dead. Now, are u dead ?
IseedeadHungarians 1 year ago
@ricsi99999 and retarded bozgor... Where is Transilvania located? Isn't it in Romania?... you wished you had such a beautiful land hunGAYrian fag.... Transilvania Pamant Romanesc!
g0blin11 1 year ago
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@g0blin11
Transilvania is located in the Carpathian Basin
And you will always be the unwelcomed guests!!!! On this holy land!
Learn History internetfighters...shut up, i don't curious to your reaction
and hey, change your name to troll11, you really deserve this name
ricsi99999 1 year ago
@IseedeadHungarians
this is not romania. :D its Transilvania
Rencus03 9 months ago
romania!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! antonescu will be back fucking bozgors
Dracula1916 1 year ago
sa ti iau neamul in pula de ungur borat,vreti transilvania?
luati la muie, nu iti dai seama ca asa ceva nu se poate?
daca prin absurd, leprele astea de la conducere ar ceda transilvania ungariei, nuti dai seama ca ar iesi baie de sange? s-ar ridica minim 15 milioane de romani si v-ar macelari pe voi bozgori imputiti, parazitilor...PROMIT SOLEMN CA II RUP CAPUL PRIMULUI BOZGOR PE CARE IL INTALNESC! HAHA
HACKSTERIX 1 year ago
@HACKSTERIX
Cine sunt Bozgori ? Daca noi Secui si Unguri suntem bozgori voi romani ce sunteti
Ciobanii care au furat Ardealul cu Ungurii
Unguri+Secui sunt acelasi. Asta e problema
benkecsaba17 1 year ago
@benkecsaba17 , hai sa te intreb ceva prietene. Voi ziceti ca noi suntem pastori migratori din Balcani. Cum de nu exista nici o sursa in toata istoria Europeana despre migratia asta? Tu, asa, cu mintea ta, poti sa crezi ca cea mai numeroasa populatie traca, adica Dacii au disparut asa, s-au evaporat? Nici nu-i de mirare ca in afara Ungariei nimeni nu sustine teoria migratiei pt ca pur si simplu nu exista nici o consemnare despre migratia asta. Pana in secolul 18 nici macar nu exista teoria asta!
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@HACKSTERIX as fi primul
Dracula1916 1 year ago
@HACKSTERIX
Romani erau ungurilor numai o sluga deci pszt . :)
voi erati tarani de pe deal =))
Rencus03 9 months ago
@Rencus03 si sa sugeti pula..daca erau.... ani de zile voi nu i-ati recunoscut pe romanii din Transilvania nici ca minoritate, cand ei erau totdeauna majoritari, si tot voi comentati taranilor ca v-am luat ceea ce era de fapt a nostru?? tot voi va plangeti acuma ca nu aveti drepturi cand nici n-ar trebui guvernu nostru sa va dea atatea?... mi-ar fi rusine sa vorbesc in locu nostru... exact prin comentarii de-astea demonstrati ca sunteti o rusine a Europei, o natie de cacat....
g0blin11 9 months ago
sorry dude if you want to see real mountains and beautiful places you should go to Slovakia
JJarolsavv 1 year ago
Frumos Ardealul nostru,MANDRU CA SUNT ROMAN!!!
ferenczib-felicitari pentru acest video,este foarte reusit,imi plac imaginile puse de tine,i chiar fain video-ul,nu inteleg de ce atata cearta la un simplu video,oamenii cand nu au de lucru SE CEARTA PE INTERNET!!!
BARARABIA ESTE ROMANIA!!!
1990dedu 1 year ago
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Frati romani ! Cimitire crestine din secolele VIII, IX, X au fost descoperite in Cluj, la Jucu. Reprezinta inca o veriga importanta in istoria noastra si o confirmare a cronicarului Anonymus despre existenta vlahilor inaintea venirii hunilor in Bazinul Carpatic. S-ar merita face un filmulet despre acest lucru si pus pe ytube. Cei de la Discovery Channel vor face un documentar. Iata si sursa articolului:
ziuadecj(.)ro/action/article?ID=2786
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@DerSzekler,
"We have houses, also a cemetery, from centuries IV-III before Christ. This way we can proove the existence of Dacians in that area from then until the Roman conquest and after. Nearby, there is another Dacian settlement from centuries IV-V after Christ , showing the continuity of Dacians through a millenium, in an areal of a few kilometers.", quote from Valeriu Sarbu, from National Museum of Eastern Carpathians
I can give you the source too, to see how much bullshit you say
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@DerSzekler , what exactly do you think you're doing if you keep deluding yourself with this bullshit? Take a look in any history book outside Hungary from all Europe or any other place on this planet. Are you Hungarians so ignorant to think that such a big population of Dacians were simply exterminated? Why do you think we were called "Vlachs" from early times?. That means "of latin descent". Polish ppl still call the Italian "woloch". Got it dude? "Woloch-Vlach"
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@DerSzekler , "Mihaly Viteazu was hungarian"
Are you sure he wasn't a gray alien? Man, there is no historian on this planet believing you, even in Hungary. Your statement is a perfect example of what the brainwashing has done with naive individuals like yourself.
"Szekely were of Hun, Avar descent... living there from 500a.d"
Before Huns arrived in the Carpathian basin, there lived Dacians. I can even point to Dacian archeological settlements in Covasna ( Transilvania ) from centuries IV-V
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
- Attila was described as having Asian features.
- The tactics used in wars by Huns were Asian.
- The majority of historians from Europe and even Asia say that you're originally from Asia.
- Now we have genetic tests with a STILL 5% Asian genes remain in Hungarians.
And you say you're European? Why? To justify the atrocities commited over the Native people in these Areas and the fact that even today you try to steal our Ancient teritories? Guess what, you were never European and never will.
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
Your "Székely " were not even recognised as hungarians before 1990 by the Hungarian government. I wonder why. Oh yea, i get it now. Because they're NOT.
They're just magyarized Germans, Romanians or Slavs.
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@DerSzekler , "1500 years hungarian ", where, in your dreams?
The first unification of Walachia-Transilvania-Moldavia ( Romania ) was in 1600, forgetting that? First waiewod of Transilvania was Leustachius, a Vlach forgetting that too? Most of the time Transilvania was a principate or under the Austro-Hungarian empire but it was never unified with Hungary, forgetting those too?
"The evidences can easyly used to proof that Székely are the dacians who weren´t romanizied till today"
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
Transilvania is an ancient Romanian Land, written in your own oldest hungarian chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum. There it's written:
"(IX.) ... in terra Pannonie, que primo Athile regis terra fuisset ... quam terram habitarent Slavi, Bulgarii, et Blachii ac pastores Romanorum."
The content of Gesta Hungarorum it's also repeated by Chronicon Dubnicense, Chronicon Posoniense, Anna Komnenos, Antonio Bonfini; Filip Callimachus and all the humanists. What you say is complete bullshit.
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@DerSzekler , "Transilvania old hungarian homeland"
Amigo, you are a complete lunatic. Your own Gesta Hungarorum says that Romanians are before you in Transilvania. The ammount of brainwashing in Hungary is hilarous, too bad nobody gives a crap on your bizzare theories outside your country.
Start searching your origin from the Madjari tribe in Kazakhstan, they seem to share a lot of genetics with Hungarians. I wonder why. Arrivederci
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@DerSzekler ,
"Analysis of the genetic distance between Romanians and other Europeans who have been studied serologically are consistent with the hypothesis that Romanians descend from Roman ancestors who colonized Dacia between the 1st century B.C. and 1st century A.D."
U.S. National Library of Medicine
Source: ncbi(.)nlm(.)nih(.)gov/pubmed/1542880
Amigo, Hungary is like a parasite in the Central and Eastern Europe. For the atrocities you have commited you deserve a Holocaust.
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@gogoasacenusie For the record I've been to your region Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine...i was beautiful, but i hope to god that not everyone is a bigot cocksucker like you. Nobody deserves a holocaust "amigo" and just by saying so you proved that you'll always twist arguments in your favor because you think so highly of yourself. And your not the only one from Romania that does that on youtube...so i guess 1-0 for Hungary from this standpoint.
lights8811 1 year ago
@lights8811 , for the record you don't know shit about the history in this region. I invite you to see my vids from concrete historical sources and see with your own eyes the truth. There is no "score" here to record. This is pure history and these are ancient Romanian teritories. I also invite you to check the thousands of crimes commited by hungarian Horthy against Slovaks, Romanians or Serbs. And if this is not enough, google "Magyarization" and see if you still love hungarians the same.
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@lights8811 , "your not the only one from Romania that does that on youtube"
Really? Look buddy, you are either hungarian either blind. Search for the TONES of hate vids of Hungarians, the Trianon revizionists, the imperialist psychos. We Romanians don't ask for teritories from Hungary! We don't have the right to respond to these extremist scums? 1-0 for Hungary? You keep scoring now? This IS HISTORY buddy. We judge by HISTORICAL FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA.!
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
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@DerSzekler , "You find a christian tobs... and? "
And that confirms your own oldest chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum, in which is written that vlahs were working on the Somes Valley in the time of waiewod Gelu. Not to mention that we also have the genetic tests proving more than clear our Roman ancestry, so who cares what a brainwashed hungarian says? Comprende, DerShitcker?
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Esy760107 1 year ago
Beautiful place, I'd like even to go there. I am from Czech Republic-Ostrava
123teflondon 1 year ago
Anonymus writed the most detailed chronicle about the conquest of transilvania. Acc to him, the natives were romanians(known as blachs or olah), but i guess it doesen't count when you're a hungarian patriot/nationalist ...
IstorieAdevarataX 1 year ago
Hát ezekkel az idióta románokkal nem sokra lehet menni!:)Mind1 kapja be a faszt az összes magyargyülölő nemzet akik utálják a magyarokat!!!
yocek79 1 year ago
transylvania one of the most beautiful areas in Romania! proud to be romanian...
g0blin11 1 year ago
My girlfriend is Hungarian and she agrees with me that Hungary deserved to lose Transylvania. Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia and paid the price. If Hungary was happy to take someone else's land by force then don't complain if the Russians and British take yours afterwards.
wikichris 1 year ago
@wikichris You need to learn history.
In Austro-Hungary the Austrian political power was stronger. If the war succes Serbia will be the part of the Austro-Hungary but not to the Hungarian Kingdom.
The only leader who didnt supported the war in Austro-Hungary and Germany was Tisza István.
When hungary lost 2/3 of its terriotories the so called little-antant made a genocide against hungarians.
I hope this information helps you to see clearer.
Zikhajj 1 year ago
@Zikhajj That's what happened when the Hungarians got into bed with the Austrians. Tisza was against it but soon agreed to commit the Hungarian army in the war. Big mistake.
wikichris 1 year ago
@wikichris I must say second time: you need to learn history. Got into bed with austrians? Do you know what is revolution? We made it against them. What is freedom fight? We did it 2 against them.
in 1848-49 Hungary a small(in territory and population) could win against the Habsburg dinasty if the Russianc czar dont help them.
We didnt in this nation because we so liked it.
Afterall I can say to the jews to holocaust is a big mistake of you. But i dont. Im not so tactless foul.
Zikhajj 1 year ago
The so called little antant states are Czehslovakia, Romania and Serb-Croatian-Slovanian kingdom are often called as Shakespeare made States because of their tale like political legitimacy and their laughable history.
Fact : Hungary lost their territories because the merciless of winners and the secret aggreement beetwen these nations.Maybe you know Vae Victus(roman saying) was the only one idea of the peace-ultimatum what ended the war.
Zikhajj 1 year ago
@Zikhajj no.... hungary lost territoreis stolen for centuries in which hungarians were a minority just like transylvania (romanian majority), northen part( slovak majority) and southen part (slavic majority).... u extremists all beg for the treaty of trianon and say thath 3.3 million hungarians were left out of their country.... have u ever thought of the 5 million romanians in Transylvania that were under the hungarian occupation for almost 1000 years?? Trianon made justice! Viva Trianon!
g0blin11 1 year ago
OK. If the romanians were present in Transilvaniain the VIII-XII century certainly you can list ca 5 but 1 also enogh settlements where romanians lived that time and you can prove it!!!!!! Hard job. Helf for the romanian historants because even they can not show 1. The daco-romanian continuitz theory aspecially in transilvania is a dream.....Nothing else.
MrFefefofo 1 year ago
@MrFefefofo , In the city of Cluj, at Jucu, christian tombs from centuries VIII, IX, X have been found. The discoveries were made accidentaly when the Nokia company came. Discovery Channel will make a documentary about this because of its big signifiance.
It's signifiance i think it's obvious for us Romanians. I wonder what you sick minded hungarian think about this.
Source: ziuadecj(.)ro/action/article?ID=2786
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago
@gogoasacenusie so christian....but not romanian....Christian cemeteries were found everywhere in the charpatian basin. They were slavs mostly.....Before christmas in Zalavar wirtten text has been found probalby fro Cirill-Method wrote it themselves.
MrFefefofo 1 year ago
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@MrFefefofo! That confirms your own oldest chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum, in which is written that vlahs were working on the Somes Valley in the time of waiewod Gelu !
gogoasacenusie 1 year ago 2
@Zikhajj that was the most important goal for Romania in WW1....to get Transylvania BACK!
g0blin11 1 year ago
@wikichris what the fuck dont you know? that hungary was under the rule of austria..
first learn history before speaking idiot..
awesome3468 1 year ago
All of you forget a thing ... the "Daci" was kiled by "Romani" But wher the hell the ROMANS are come ? :)) From The Romani IMP.
And realy ... Hungary was build by the HUNs comed from Asia .
After the 1st WW Transilvania was aded to Romania .
d3m0n3l999 1 year ago