@OutXrage yeah i def watched this video to learn how to learn them.. or maybe it was the fact that i actually stumbled upon a video on how to do such a fish move and couldnt take it at the least bit seriously
no that was a perfect cement mixer. You use it when you are going for a cow catcher but the oppenent on bottom is either stronger or prepared and wont let you have it, so you quickly roll the opposite way using their own strength
the bulldog, pancake, under hook and head whatever state your in move does not work when someone charges into you while you throw it. sometimes on the knee's but I find the chin whip going the other direction has worked better when you circle intensely with all your weight while you hit the chin whip.
@electronictrip really? i wrestled in high school and after practicing this move until i was comfortable, it helped me win multiple matches. i've beaten guys who were clearly better than me with this move because it does catch them off guard. i wouldnt say it's a garbage move. your son has a garbage coach if he doesn't let your son develop a variety of attacks. of course, hopefully your son has his basics down.
favorite move, but i just slam him down from nuetral, i dont wory about geting down first... i pined the guy in 10 seconds my first match with that move
@hypergamerman i call it that because if you dont hit it right ur either back where u started or have given up 5 pts and possibility for getting pinned
We use to call this the "Cinderella" back in high school. I ended a match in 20 seconds with a pin using some thing very simillar to this move. I had a friend in high school who hit a "Cinderella" from a standing position. His opponent was so stunned he pinned him within 10 seconds of the move.
Actually last year i choked someone unconcious last year while in a head throw position, and because i had the arm it was just extremly tight and knocked him out, but i won because he couldnt continue and it was in a legal position.
You know jack shit because if you take a second to look by doing that you can choke the living fuck out of the person you are doing it to. Also its not like i've personally asked 3 referees about the matter.
Im not 100% if its illegal but as for the intention that is a stupid point to make. An intention during an armbar is to pin someone but if the ref believes there is too much pressure on the joint he will stop it, it doesn't matter what the intention is, it only matters what will happen.
Its the principle of what I said, it doesn't matter what your intentions are, if u do something illegal or potentially dangerous its going to be stopped. The ref doesn't care that you didn't mean to choke him, he only cares that you actually did. So yes my analogy did make sense and so does my original thought.
Not all are specified in the book. They are based off what you cannot do. Im assuming in the book it doesn't say anything about choking someone with double grapes in does it? No. They do not list every single position they simply give basis.
I use this a lot in mma, totaly take someone for a ride. Thaks for posting you guys have great how-to vids, also that granby roll is a killer, being a heavy weight nobody would think that I would use them, but I hit BJJ guys with it alot right into catch wrestling arm bars and neck cranks.
too bad this is a gator roll not a cement mixer
yankeesfan1540 1 year ago
this move is shit only retards use it cause they dont know what theyre doing and think its cool
Ali3343 1 year ago
@Ali3343 Thats why you watched a video how to do it and learn it retard.
OutXrage 1 year ago
@OutXrage yeah i def watched this video to learn how to learn them.. or maybe it was the fact that i actually stumbled upon a video on how to do such a fish move and couldnt take it at the least bit seriously
Ali3343 1 year ago
Gator roll
TheJre13 1 year ago
no that was a perfect cement mixer. You use it when you are going for a cow catcher but the oppenent on bottom is either stronger or prepared and wont let you have it, so you quickly roll the opposite way using their own strength
urwutueat1 1 year ago
ive heard that its not but is this ;legal folkstyle middle school?
safeathome23 1 year ago
This move would have really helped me during BJJ training today, oh well, never to late to learn. Nice technique.
19thaman79 1 year ago
"cement mixer"concrete kids northhampton rob rohn hit it dow 14-2 to win national title for lehigh, they get to name it
GrundleSmugglar 1 year ago
They have so many Names for these kinda moves, my coach and practically everyone here calls it a Alligator Roll lol
xMasterTerrax 1 year ago
the bulldog, pancake, under hook and head whatever state your in move does not work when someone charges into you while you throw it. sometimes on the knee's but I find the chin whip going the other direction has worked better when you circle intensely with all your weight while you hit the chin whip.
Fodera4 1 year ago
tht aint no damn cement mixer drive across tha back
masonbyers1 1 year ago
its a cement job
MDSKK64 1 year ago
lol starting with anaconda choke...doing a gator roll and finishing with what looks like a d'arce choke!
racingmylife15 1 year ago
my son says this is a gator roll. his coach yelled at him for doing it, told him it was a garbage move.
electronictrip 1 year ago
@electronictrip really? i wrestled in high school and after practicing this move until i was comfortable, it helped me win multiple matches. i've beaten guys who were clearly better than me with this move because it does catch them off guard. i wouldnt say it's a garbage move. your son has a garbage coach if he doesn't let your son develop a variety of attacks. of course, hopefully your son has his basics down.
ghyt21 1 year ago
this is cool
Foss145 1 year ago
No this is not a Russian move it's from allentown Pennsylvania there high school coach created it
tickles77777 1 year ago
that a gator roll
flyanryan96 1 year ago
god dam it this is a russian roll, a freestyle move created by umm russians
RainbowCproductions 2 years ago
yeah this only works on fish unless you use it on somebody who expects the cow catcher
DOWORKINATOR 2 years ago
I thought it was called the twister but either is good
matthewchang21 2 years ago
favorite move, but i just slam him down from nuetral, i dont wory about geting down first... i pined the guy in 10 seconds my first match with that move
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marshcase 2 years ago
Geez, how fast can they go. Show a cement mixer in 23 seconds? Did they need to catch a bus or something?
Catch their next videos... how to learn Russian in 12 minutes. Brain surgery in 18 minutes.
303Gregg 2 years ago 9
lol nice
Mr5um41 1 year ago
@303Gregg lol
FreeTwinkWannaBe 11 months ago
other names....
death roll
gator roll
jdon666 2 years ago 2
that isnt a gator roll. a gator roll is when you lock up a front head and then roll it. both are very similar though
bebop813 2 years ago
@jdon666 That's what I call it, the death roll. I never use it though. I just call it that because it's a backup move if the deathlock fails.
hypergamerman 2 years ago
@hypergamerman i call it that because if you dont hit it right ur either back where u started or have given up 5 pts and possibility for getting pinned
jdon666 1 year ago
can u do this standing
9449907 2 years ago
no xD but try doing a fairfax standing up, it works a lot
BockChoiBoy 2 years ago
yea at my school we call it the kindergarden killer
logansdylannelson 2 years ago
lol
Mr5um41 1 year ago
We use to call this the "Cinderella" back in high school. I ended a match in 20 seconds with a pin using some thing very simillar to this move. I had a friend in high school who hit a "Cinderella" from a standing position. His opponent was so stunned he pinned him within 10 seconds of the move.
dynodonfb7 2 years ago
lol i just to do this
KIRBYSLAYERm14 2 years ago
this is for freestyle right
gnwmsn 2 years ago
it's legal in folkstyle wouldn't do it to often tho
bigbirdgrappler60 2 years ago 2
Actually last year i choked someone unconcious last year while in a head throw position, and because i had the arm it was just extremly tight and knocked him out, but i won because he couldnt continue and it was in a legal position.
wariorjg123 2 years ago
dude i did the same thing my guy turned purple haha
s1lvrinferno 2 years ago 2
thats why you reach across the face not the neck
sk8tingmonkey312 2 years ago
they call it a underhook and turn in my neck of the woods.
theaquaman417 2 years ago
i know this move as the gator roll, but all moves have different names in different places
they call the "cow catcher" a "cement mixer" here
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mintsharpie101 2 years ago
davison wrestling, brent metcalf
julian22arreola 2 years ago
I've been taught that that is a russian roll not a cement mixer
monsterkiller5 2 years ago
why would grabbing his wrist make it illegal?
cmoresstud 2 years ago
im pretty sure grabbing the wrist makes it illegal
darthturkey94 2 years ago
u obviously know nothing about wrestling
DaMan478 2 years ago
You know jack shit because if you take a second to look by doing that you can choke the living fuck out of the person you are doing it to. Also its not like i've personally asked 3 referees about the matter.
darthturkey94 2 years ago
It's his wrist, not yours, and the intent is NOT to choke him, therefore it's legal.
If you were only doing the move to apply pressure to his throat, then you would have a point, but this is clearly for leverage.
FaZ07 2 years ago
Im not 100% if its illegal but as for the intention that is a stupid point to make. An intention during an armbar is to pin someone but if the ref believes there is too much pressure on the joint he will stop it, it doesn't matter what the intention is, it only matters what will happen.
darthturkey94 2 years ago
Joint pressure and chokes are completely different things. You can't "break" someone's breathing flow, but you can sure as hell dislocate a shoulder.
FaZ07 2 years ago
Its the principle of what I said, it doesn't matter what your intentions are, if u do something illegal or potentially dangerous its going to be stopped. The ref doesn't care that you didn't mean to choke him, he only cares that you actually did. So yes my analogy did make sense and so does my original thought.
darthturkey94 2 years ago
Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
FaZ07 2 years ago
Prove me wrong with actually correct logic and then ill believe i'm wrong. Until you can tell me im wrong with an actual reason I dont care.
darthturkey94 2 years ago
All illegal positions are defined in the rulebook. That is not one of them. You can look online or ask your coach to look through his.
FaZ07 2 years ago
Not all are specified in the book. They are based off what you cannot do. Im assuming in the book it doesn't say anything about choking someone with double grapes in does it? No. They do not list every single position they simply give basis.
darthturkey94 2 years ago
It lists a choke, and defines what a choke is. No matter what you're doing with your legs, if your arms are in that choke position it's illegal.
So yes, it actually does. Maybe you should take a look at a rulebook rather than "assuming" what's in it.
FaZ07 2 years ago
thats more like a barry roll. a cenent mixer you would be running it around the right and not rolling to the left..
bestmxer01 2 years ago
A barrell roll is done as a counter to front head lock or sprwal and is also known as a outside fireman's or near arm far leg.
gerardroth 2 years ago 4
@bestmxer01 This was a cement mixer breh
AAHorse 1 year ago
@bestmxer01 Do you have down syndrome?
ts64lacrosse 1 year ago
we learned the cement mixer a different way, a lot less painful
theyackinator69 2 years ago
pain is the key!!!..
if you make as painfull as you can to your opponent the easier it is to controll him.
ecko241 2 years ago
yeah yeah yeah thats all good and swell nice move and stuff but thtas not going to work on a horse forgive me if i sound a bit
weak and underminding but it is something you should think about
Jshuad 3 years ago
A.K.A Greco Roll. great move.
XSVterror18 3 years ago
Around here it has two names; gator roll or a twister.
bpd1002 3 years ago
I've seen a similar action called a gator roll, but it's done to lock in an anaconda choke or other brabo variation.
RedNeckJiuJitsu 3 years ago
i know it as a Julio roll...great move though what ever name u want to use for it
shorebball32 3 years ago
i usually take the elbow and then roll through and my arm is still on the head
phipy1024 3 years ago
actully we turn to the other side and its a neck chancery
youngunin 3 years ago
that was a neck chancery
youngunin 3 years ago
isnt tha a russian roll
a cement mixer is when you have a front headlock, put your hands between his legs and roll into the nearside cradle
robbieownsyou 3 years ago
if you roll him to the right, over his hip, our coach calls it a cement job
ejmakesmovies 3 years ago
... that sounds dirty ...
but wouln't that be a bulldog?
Or are they two different things?
KoboldAvenger 3 years ago
Im pretty sure that's not a bulldog
ejmakesmovies 3 years ago
cement mixer is the best
AnThEgReAt1234 3 years ago
we learned it a different way.... we dont do the whole twist, we do it weird
lpbandmaker 3 years ago
nevermind, just found out its a cow catcher..
lpbandmaker 3 years ago
good stuff
keith97btown 3 years ago
awesome im gonna try this
jkooolz 3 years ago
DAMN
robertaisgreat 3 years ago 2
I use this a lot in mma, totaly take someone for a ride. Thaks for posting you guys have great how-to vids, also that granby roll is a killer, being a heavy weight nobody would think that I would use them, but I hit BJJ guys with it alot right into catch wrestling arm bars and neck cranks.
irishclubswinger 3 years ago
awesome how-to
TPupAZ 3 years ago
y do u have to grab his chin?
FujiFS 3 years ago
cause it'll feel really bad to the man getting hit by one.
Zhipher 3 years ago
its illegal to wrap your arm around the neck, they consider it a choke
killerkev4321 3 years ago
not if you have control of his arm too. a front headlock is legal because his arm is up next to his head
russveld 3 years ago
Place your palm on his chin and it's not a choke. You have control of his head not his throat.
ChrisxChaos 3 years ago
finally, i found out ow to do that move!
Thanks! 5\5
00boogy 4 years ago
important to keep tight lock on the chin when your doing that
blakeb320 4 years ago
thanks.. was wondering how to do it with wrist lock because i always grabbed my left bicep
desinaner 4 years ago
my favorite move....
EZShredz111 4 years ago