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  • @MovementJR You should really update this. Current Naruto is a mountain buster, Ichigo has just regained his powers so hes not as strong as he used to be, and Tsuna has town level destructive capacity.

  • Ikaros from Sora no Otoshimono:

    Destruction Capacity: Country+ Speed: hypersonic+(at the very least mach 35) Durability: Country+ Stamina: ... don't know

    Oga Tatsumi can also be added here:

    Destriction Capacity: Building+ Speed: Supersonic+ Durability: building+ Stamina: superhuman

  • Awesome list! :) Great Job!

    Tho it lacks other ludicrusly overpowered Protagonist characters such as Haruka from Noein (a Multiversal destroyer with outomatic defences), Lain from Serial Experiments Lain (aparintly Universal level and knows her powers fully at the end), Haruhi from TMoHS (Universal, but does not know her powers), and Giorno Giovanna from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Gold Experiance Requiem...that is all) :D

  • What's the anime at 1.11 pls help thanks

  • @PainFulLightBlade Dragon Ball Z

  • What's the anime at 1.11? Pls help thanks

  • Tenchi Kami is currently the strongest anime character.

  • @edwinsz Yeah......unfortunately.....SM­H [-_-]

  • I don't know but it seems like some of the stats are just pulled out of your ass.

  • @MeAndMyFamily1992

    No they're not I've read all those manga.

  • @MovementJR I'm not saying you're inaccurate, it's more like the units of measurement are rather vague if you will. But I haven't seen someone put together such an organized list so, Kudos to you.

  • @MovementJR Can I ask you a question? How is Goku's durability Planetary? When did he accomplished this feat?

  • @DemonOverlordful Powerscailing. taking character statements into account and the durability feats of other characters would put him at that level.

  • @goodgamersambo I want to learn more about this Powerscaling that makes goku Planetary. I sort've could'nt understand what you're saying. Like what do you mean he take character statements into account and the durability feats of others?

  • @DemonOverlordful Frieza surviving the destruction of Namek perhaps? Goku is many times stronger than Frieza by the end of the series...

  • @goodgamersambo You might have a point about frieza's planetary durability and I know that Goku's stronger but I've never seen Goku accomplish the feat

  • @DemonOverlordful Well, that's where powerscailing comes in, Goku is obviously better than Freiza in every department by the end of the series.

  • Whats the song in the beginning? it sound awesome :D

  • Shouldnt Haruka Kaminogi be here near the top. She is the protaganist, has Multiversal range and destructive capacity, reality warping, and automatic defenses.

  • wrong goku super saiyin four is strong you got that one goku is #1

  • @shadownumber13 I agree LOL

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  • @shadownumber13 Well on second thought the #1 Strongest which is Kami Tenchi is actually true. Kami Tenchi would actually beat any anime character ever existed because he is a universe buster and also Omnipotent. By Tenchi being Omnipotent he can make 10 SSJ4 Gokus attack the real Goku. Or he can destroy goku with simply a thought because he's omnipotent so yeah. Tenchi is #1

  • @DemonOverlordful eh nope

  • @shadownumber13 How can you disagree? I love Goku and all (no homo) but how can goku go up against an OMNIPOTENT? If it was Tenchi vs Goku I'd have my votes on Tenchi because he's Omnipotent meaning that nothing is impossible to him! So please explain how goku can go up against an omnipotent!

  • @DemonOverlordful tenchi depens on his sword alot

  • @shadownumber13 He doesn't need his sword! He has powers without the sword thers is an episode where Tenchi can make trees appear with just a thought. If he can do that then he can simply make Goku disappear with just a thought

  • the fck its all ok for me except sailor moon

    the fck SAILOR MOON?

  • all 75 characters must come from Dragonball!

  • what's the 1st song name? thanks

  • I agree with this list in terms of power, but not in terms of skill, tactics, and ability. Some characters, like Alucard, Vash, and Train have the ability to beat some of the characters above them. Others, like Natsu or Lucy, will lose to certain characters underneath them. Even Taikobou has enough power to battle Son Goku.

  • yeah, I see that in description. If you have read the manga or are up to date with the ova he is much stronger after release. And, technically, he cant be killed easily so.... unfair judging in my opinion. If you know Alucard he almost always lets them attack first to toy with them.

  • @swords983 i agree with all you said but it is the user who made the video rules :/

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  • Guts and Alucard should be much closer to top 10...

  • @swords983 Concerning Alucard, whoever has the capacity to kill him at least once has been classified as stronger than him.

  • @Buffbuu hey, with Alucard's new toy jackall, he can easily shoot lucy's vectors goodbye even if they are invisilble because she uses her vectors to protect herself so i guess Alucard for the win...

  • Sailor moon?

  • @Buffbuu City busting and life wiping is easily balanced out by the fact that Lucy was melting away and reduced to a humanoid blob with extremely low accuracy; cant even hit someone a meter away from her with her massive vectors and that's just two consciousnesses holding the other back (PIS). Alucard goes intangible, phases a feet behind her, and shoots her. She's not reacting to what she can't see now can she? EoS Alucard is even more overkill.

  • @Buffbuu "dies before he shoots" You do know that Alucard in most of the manga is a high level regenerator right? If the attack kills his heart, he'll simply regenerate. Lucy's vectors won't kill him easily. Alucard has regen, intangibility, shapeshifting/fluid intangibility, and telekinesis. It's potential those psionic manifestations won't even touch him.

  • @Buffbuu I've already read all of Hellsing and Elfen Lied, if you have to bring up Lucy in her strongest form, then Alucard simply goes intangible (the vectors are clearly visible in her stronger forms). Bando was able to evade her vectors that was reaching for him while they were still invisible. Alucard with far greater senses and a third eye ability will notice them easily.

  • No. He simply regenerates and shoots her.

  • @edwinsz Who, Alucard? He dies before he shoots. How are Alucard gonna defend himself from something INVISIBLE and 30 times faster than him? Remember, Lucy can dodge bullets, Alucard cant dodge something he cant see and 30 times faster than he can react, and the attack can easily destroy a city. He wont survive.

  • @MovementJR when will you make another one?

  • @MovementJR hey can you possibly tell me what the names of the songs are starting at 1:50, 3:43, & 5:33

  • is gash really that stong?

  • goku or any sayian warrior have the potenial to destroy a whole galaxy since everytime after a battle they get even more stronger.

  • @Legitone80000 They don't.

  • I gotta disagree with a lot of those but I wanna know why Saber from Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero isn't even in the listing. She was fairly strong and should be in at least the top 15.

  • @dragonballz11

    Because the serie was originally a game before an anime, therefore the anime isnt canon

    (if i remember correctly)

    or maybe he just hasnt seen it

  • any reason teknoman didnt make the mix or is that 2 old school. ive read the sailor moon manga, maybe if you put sailor cosmos people might under stand why she is stronger then goku

  • dbz fanboys r the funniest!!!!

  • @itachizetsupain You mean for Goku? Other than those that I mentioned (and I'm not sure if some of these are protagonists or not), there's Pegasus Seiya, Sailor Moon, TTGL, Lord of Nightmares, ZeedMillenniummon, all three of The Chousin, Arceus, and probably Gohan.

  • @edwinsz there not protagonists, protagonists are the main chatacters of a serie, well, thanks for your time anyway

  • Marshall D. Teach a.k.a blackbeard (one piece) should be on there as he has the power to suck in anything and to create earth quakes in anything at any size

  • @MrPerson101ification No Limits Fallacy, thats what youre saying, by your logic BlackBeard could destroy the universe if he wanted :/

    And he isnt even a protagonist

    Also, teleportation isnt speed, you dont move, you warp

  • @itachizetsupein its not actually teleportation he uses because he can change his stance but he still moves faster that light and he could still beat sailor moon

  • @MrPerson101ification Actually, it is, the only time it has been shown to do something besides warping is in the movies, and the movies are non-canon since they were not written by the author, nor do they fit in the stories timeline

    example: Goku in the second movie already knew kaioken and genki dama, despite the first movie taking place before Vegeta came to earth

  • just few questions,where is Gogeta?if here are from manga and anime,Gogeta is a character well 2 in one Goku+Vegeta but anyway,where is he? he has such a speed then even Shenron can't see his punch if someone see that series,and what about Rikodou from Naruto? whel nothing about him there're not exactly,but just know that he create the jutsu,so from Naruto he's like a God...and about sailor moon is not strongher then goku,Goku have ff4 and a powerful speed and punch,well maybe I can't get it..:(

  • @TheSaikon Basically every character you mentioned should be added to the top CANT be added to the top since the list only ranks MAIN PROTAGONISTS

  • Silver Age Superman, and Goku's speed is undetermined because of the inconsistency of the anime. He says he can reach 99.9% of the speed of light. Yet Namek was many thousands of lightyears away. Which he can instantly teleport to. But he is almost the speed of light at the very least. And he can destroy whole planets when he was fighting Freiza. He is 1000s of times stronger than that by the end. And he can rip dimensionalwholes like Gotenks and Buu if he wanted. Goku> Sailor Moon.

  • 1st. isnt lucy from elfen lied range only 2 meters, not several kilometers

    2nd. goku's origin is not from goku lol, its from dragonball, the anime is not called goku...

    3rd. i relly dont get how sailor moon stronger than goku o_o

  • @xDonaldDx

    1. No it's serveral Kilometers by the end of the manga her vectors went out into space.

    2. That was a mistake.

    3. She is faster than light and and can destroy multiple planets

  • @MovementJR What is the song name and artist at 3:00 and at 8:55?

  • @MovementJR goku's instant transmission tech. is basically teleporting (faster than light and is vegita's final flash can go as far out in space as it does then goku at SS4 could easily destroy multiple planets

  • @MovementJR Goku can easily destroy multiple planets too. But their firepower are nearly equal though.

  • LeLouch can beat any of them just ordering them to suicide :P

  • @jdavidcc7 he can constrol weaker,but not powerful one,he wasn't able to control his brother or father,so about his power in this top,he suck,no offence

  • Son-Goku 1.

  • I wanna tell my opinion about Goku's strength (from Manga and DBZ). He can destroy planets, that's right. But I remember and I'm sure that he can snatch ( I hope it's the right verb) dimensions with just his ki in SSJ3 stage like Super Boo and SSJ3 Gotenks. That can destroy the universe. (In Manga) his power is lower than Ultimate Gohan, but Goku is known for his techniques, which can kill opponents who are stronger than himself. That's why he is DBs strongest character.

  • is natsu really that weak??

  • @fairytailmaster

    Yes. Compared to who is above him.

  • @MovementJR umm just one question. I personally think that luffy is stronger than Tsuna mainly because luffy's gear 2 can probably (speculation) keep up with tsuna's HDWM speed and but mainly he is more powerful in terms of durability and maybe strength.

  • @Angelwithdirtysword

    Yeah after the timeskip Luffy surpassed him again and pretty much everyone in khr.

  • @MovementJR this was made after the timeskip correct? well i mean before the timeskip. was he not stronger then?

  • Umm... I literally had no clue who 95% of these people are haha

  • sailor moon ahead of goku wtf

  • really astro boy 0_0

  • i loved how u show us your top 75 :D

  • Luffy = nr.1 forever

  • ichiogo and goku belong at the top three

  • @venrajful

    Ichigo is not top three.

  • @MovementJR If blazer drive is a anime can you tell me where to watch it ? :)

  • @MovementJR he should still be higher because he is invisible to humans

  • @MovementJR ichigo after dangai training is TOP 3 you can't argue that

  • @alejandrothefader Yes he can.

    Is Ichigo Faster than light? Didn't think so.

    Can Ichigo destroy a galaxy or a universe? Didn't think so.

    Can Ichigo withstand planet/galaxy/universe busting? Didn't think so.

  • @goodgamersambo teleportation is at least as fast as light and ichigo was faster than that, he could destroy the hadou 90 which had the mass and gravity of a black hole with a swing of his sword, and he destroyed mountains with another swing cutting them into dust, he beat the man that could destroy human beings just by aproaching them and... well you get my points

  • @alejandrothefader Teleportation is instant i think. Ichigo probably reacted to him when he renentered the atmosphere.

    Dark Schneider who still isn't in the top 3 all time strongest anime characters, was able to destroy a supermassive black hole (The biggest ever black hole recorded) which had the power several billions of times that of a supernova (Note that a supernova is an out of control star).

    Mountain destroying isn't that much of a big deal bro.

  • No Evangelion's?

  • @gamesmaster4ever well the video said it dose not take in no mechas so i think Evangelion went in that catagory.

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  • of course fanboys will say goku should be numba 1 when they havent see those other animes be4 lol

  • Goku should not have even been in top 10 compared to the several manga protagonists that have been missed that are greatly stronger than him. Tenchi and Dark Schneider >>>>> Goku. Also I believe there's a mistake for Alucard's strength. It says "Average Human" when he's obviously much stronger than that.

  • @edwinsz I do know 10 protagonists stronger than him, but would you mind mentioning me the ones you know? You might know one that I have no knowledge off, and I like watching/reading powerful series

  • Hooray for Kenshin and Ed Elric!!!!!!!!

  • I'm a HUUUGE Bleach fan, but yeah, Goku shoulda been number one.

    People WEAKER than Goku destroyed planets, GALAXIES, for fun.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial

    -sigh- so other characters... Watch tenchi muyo ova episode 19 so you get the idea. And pay attention to every detail. You can find said episode here in youtube.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial I wonder when that happened, ive watched every DB episode from the 3 anime series, every movie, am reading the manga, and I havent seen it....

  • @itachizetsupein Well, Broly destroys thousands of Galaxies in rapid succession and is home for dinner...

    Goku and Frieza manage to destroy Namek...

    etc etc...

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Broly can't Galaxy bust, it would take alot of time for him to destroy a galaxy.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Broly didnt even destroy 1 galaxy, he attacked one of the 4 galaxies (yes, there are only 4 in DBZ, one for each kai) and Goku went and fought him in  a planet IN that galaxy

    each galaxy has billions to trillions of planets....

  • @itachizetsupein Watch the movie again.

    Come back.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial I suggest you follow own advice, watch the movie again

    Then, check up the original script since the english version is so badly traduced

    and finally, go check up what canonicity means, since movies are non canon to the dragon ball storyline

  • @itachizetsupein I watch Japanese subbed.

    And, in the beginning of the movie, it is talking about the "destruction of several galaxies"

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Well then your lying. PM me proof of them saying that.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Then you are lying or saw a horribly subbed fansub, since that is never said in the japanese version, it mentions a galaxy geting attacked, but it never says anything in plural about galaxieS

    This is common knowledge in forums, since the original versions are the ones used to debate

  • @itachizetsupein Or maybe you saw the horribly subbed fansub?

    And who trusts Forums? Forums have claimed so much shit they're best avoided.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial People on forums provide proof.

    People on youtube don't, much like yourself.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Hahahah, that was quite funny, surely the multiple translators that also happen to join forums didnt notice that the fansubs were wrong, and you are the only one that saw the correct fansub, thats surely the case

    Its also surely the case that Broly destroyed multiple galaxies, despite the fact that even Cell who is around Broly's lvl claimed he could only solar system bust, and lets not forget the fact theres only 4 galaxies in DB universe :I

  • @itachizetsupein Or maybe you should stop assuming YOU'RE the right one, and that you're the most perfect motherfucker on earth?

    Yeah, I don't think I'm the stuck up ass in this "conversation".

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Im not assuming, I gave evidence for my claims in my previous posts, Its surprising you cant take facts without starting to swear like a kid

    And surely the guy that knows what canonicity means, investigated whats hes talking about before engaging in this conversation and that did not start flaming the other is the "stuck up ass" in the conversation ^^

  • @itachizetsupein Swearing? You're going there? Idiot. What are you, some sheltered 12-year-old?

    You showed no facts, only mindless opinions and questionable data.

    You seem to think you know everything, hmm? I will admit, I am not a bloody otaku when it comes to things, but Broly is my favourite character in DBZ. Period. So OF COURSE I'd know everything about him.

    Everyone knows what canonicity means. Derp. Yes, I investigated. This is not a conversation. I'm not flaming, you chose to reply.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Its cute to see I got you butthurt so easily, but well, not thats its a hard thing to do with fanboys, they simply cant take facts, but oh well, kids will be kids ^^

  • @itachizetsupein You're the one getting trolled like a motherfucker here ^^

    "Don't feed the trolls"

    If you will look at my posts with this in mind, you'll see that I was baiting you. Big time.

    Thanks for making my Thanksgiving week a nice week, your "getting butthurt", as you called it, really made my day.

    For one thing, I don't watch DBZ - I pulled that all out of the Wikia ( with one False fact )

    Yes, I know he didn't destroy galaxies, but without that there would be no trolling :C

    TROLOPWND

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial You troll to amuse yourself? You must have a great life /sarcasm

  • @goodgamersambo Of course I troll to amuse myself.

    It truly takes a genius to figure out a troll /sarcasm

    Idiot.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial You have nothing better to do with your life?

    I pity you.

  • @goodgamersambo Trolling = 2 minutes MAX daily.

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial WOW, you really are quite dull, please tell me were in your message does it imply you ever "powned" me?

    You never got to exasperate me, I never raged, didnt flee, etc., despite your "trolling" (if you even did troll and arent just making this up to avoid looking dumb), so tell, me, how did I get "trollpowned", in what way did you satisfy any objective a troll has?

  • @itachizetsupein This is me, not reading your comment, because I'm off to troll another idiot.

    Dohsvedahnya ;D

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial Quite ironic to see a child that cant even keep a civilized conversation, that makes up lies to hype his favorite character call someone else a kid

  • @LONOmegaZ My favourite character of all time is Ichimaru.

    I don't know you, I don't care to know you. This isn't your..."argument".

  • @AnubisMusicOfficial I asked that when?

    WOW, its also quite pathetic how you did the "I was trolling" act to save face when you were proven wrong

  • @LONOmegaZ *ignores comment*

    umadbruh

  • Goku is by far the strongest. In the first saga of DBZ Raditz moves faster than the speed of light and Vegeta destroys a planet easily. Raditz had 1000 power count. By the end of DBZ alone without GT Goku would have a power count of around 10 trillion based on 10X power up for each transformation. So he moves about a billions of times faster than the speed of light and can use instant transmition to go anywhere instantly. Also, boo could destroy the universe so Goku can too.

  • @User55pk46 Raditz being FTL is a dub error, and the anime is non-canon, the manga is what is being ranked

    and no one in DBZ can destroy the universe

  • Luffy stamina large? Are you kinding me? You punch and nothing fucking happens, o well this was made before he mastered haki anyway.

  • @TikiKingTito thats not stamina thats durability

  • You have underestimated Gutz, but that's just because you probably haven't seen him in a Berserk armor - which makes him way stronger.

    What else? Alucard... He should be at least in first 10 - He is invincible, already dead... So no one can kill him - not even once! It's damn easy! And he can do some very dangerous things too!

    Where is Dante?

    What is Lucy doing so close to the first places? She is so mortal!

    Never the less - Great video!

    P.S.

    Numbers starting from 35 are really terrifying! ^_^

  • @Rewiller Read the description, anyone who can kill Alucard once are ranked as stronger than him,

    Lucy is a easily life wiper and city destroyer at the end of the manga . She is stronger than anyone ranked below her.

    Dante is originally from a game, the anime is non canon. This video only features character who are originally from an anime or manga, not originally from games. The anime doesn't follow the original story of Devil May Cry, the games does. Dante is a game character,.

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  • @Buffbuu i agree Lucy is powerful, i think a few characters under her can beat her:

    Kenshiro (but barely)

    Yoh Asakura

    Ban Mido

    Alucard

    Vash the Stampede

    Haru Glory

    Kurt (though questionable)

    Neuro (also questionable, he seems to match Alucard)

  • @yusifudo46 Ban is not as strong as previously,he was once belived in every VS forum, to be FTL, have infinite willpower (whatever he imaginates becomes real e.g if he imaginates a car will fall from the sky,it will fall from the sky).Ban mido loses to Luffy before the time skip, He aint touching Lucy.However i dont know for other characters you mentioned, since i havent read the mangas. However Alucard should lose to Lucy,if he only gets 1 life. It all depends on who attacks first

  • @Buffbuu even so, doesn't that make Ban considerably fodder by that logic then? cause what's the point in having that hax ability if Luffy can beat him then.

  • @Rewiller Also i bet that most character from 23 and below would be able to kill Alucard even with all the extra life he has, or they fight forever without anyone winning or losing.

  • @Rewiller And remeber, many characters from ongoing series got/gets power ups after the video was made, so some character are stronger or weaker now than before. This video was made 7 months ago, so of course some characters like luffy and naruto are stronger now than 7 months ago.

  • Goku should have been numver one...

  • whats the first song?

  • ok wth what is up with these stats for example (bleach's kurosaki ichigo, since everyone knows him) just blew away a frieking moutain in the video clip and his destructive capabilities are a couple city blocks. his speed hypersonic, strength 100+ tons range several hundred meters and he is outmatched by #31 kenshirowho has destructive capacity of a building range several dozen meters and everything else is equal i also think u are greatly exaggurating some of these people

  • @domzilla13 According to the OBD, A student Ichigo is wrong and he didnt destroy a mountain, due to an unquantifiable distance in a single panel that makes the "mountain" seem too small

    kind of weird if you ask me, but meh

    i made my own top anime manga prots, its ranked diferently and has some dif chars, check it out if you like

  • @itachizetsupein ok checked out some and they aint bad thank you for clearing things up for me

  • @domzilla13 No prob, your welcome

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  • @domzilla13 Ichigo parried those attacks, and those were his own moves mixed with Aizen's attack that caused th mountain to break. also, hav u ever watched Fist of the North Star? Kenshiro was tanking weapons that had more potential to town bust, which just as good, if not better than mountain busting, like th giant train that tried to run over the town, he stopped it completely with 3 fingers. also, this is not by who will win this time, n unpowerscaled. if u want that, check out the earlier 1

  • @ikki453 Mountain busting is better than even city busting since mountains do not only have a large size, but they also have much greater mass than a city, large mountain>large city>mid sized mountain>mid sized city>small mountain>small city>town, thats kind of how its taken in forums, also, no, that train did not show it could town bust, and Aizen's power had nothing to do with the thing Ichigo destroyed, Ichigo himself stated this

  • @itachizetsupein i still say entire town (im thnkin state wise) busting is better, because there is a much wider environment to destroy with multiple directions other than sitting there blasting a single mountain. also, i said "potentially" which means it could have done some serious damage to the town. also, i dont think there would be a large mountain in the middle of a city. i would say it was more of a large hill.

  • @ikki453 wider environment, yes, but not mass, busting a large area with only 50billion tons of mass is not better than busting a smaller area with 500billion tons of mass (just an example)

    Also, Ichigo and Aizen were in the center of the city when Ichigo just showed up, after that Ichigo grabbed Aizen and took him outside of the city, so no, they were not in the city anymore when they fought

    also, there are some cities with mountains inside, look up the geography of Nuevo Leon for example

  • @itachizetsupein i dont know. im not tryin to deny Ichigo's strength here, but it still looked more like a large hill to me for some odd reason, not a mountain.

  • @ikki453 large hill or small mountain, either seem pausible, Ichigo is a A student so he should know what a mountain is, but there is always a slight margin of error since he only mentioned what it was out of perception and didnt actually measure it, so it might have been a LITTLE 2 small to be a mountain, but not by large margin, so large hill, small mountain, take your pic, still not a grave diference

  • Sailor moon 4 lol they fucking slow as turtles

  • @dbzmaniac1955 Nope.

    They fly through galaxies in seconds.

    This would give them FTL travel speed and at the very least LS+ reactions.

    They can destroy planets with a click of there fingers, much like dbz characters.

    Stop underestimating the sailormoon verse.

  • Oh, and please excuse my spelling errors, i dont double check since im in hurry to get to more important things and also write faster in that hurry wich somewhat augments my error ratio ^^

  • @itachizetsupein Truth is Janembas body he created is erased and also his ki messing with the dimensions is erased as well as his soul since it didnt return to other world. He was erased from multiple plains and thats why its likely SP would indeed erase DS. And as I said even if I cut in half to 200 the increase for each arc Gogetas still above DS.

  • @SSJRyu1 Truth is you cant prove what your claiming, since when does malice have a soul? I dont recall Hirudegarn appearing ever again either and dragons fist doesnt erase souls ^^

    try harder

    and thanks for proving you are not a genius, the correct mathematical solution would be to multiply by 20 at best, not by 200, since 20x20=400 and that would make the boost on both halfs on the training equal ^^

  • @itachizetsupein making an error in math does not equate to showing if im a genius or not, the iq test is what showed that I am. But due to me learning the timeframe is 15 and not 10 years the calcs that come out are actually going to give Goku a pwr lvl of 480,000,000,000 in base in gt, 960,000,000,000,000 SSJ4 and 96,000,000,000,000,000 as SSJ4 Gogeta. Divide by 50,000 for the min lightning speed calc and hes 1,920,000,000,000x the speed of light, still over a trillion times.

  • @SSJRyu1 At this point i doubt you ever took one considering what youve displayed, you made one of the most basic errors possible that anyone should have been taught even in middle school, please show the calculation you used by the way ^^

  • @itachizetsupein Hell is never shown after Hirudegarn or Omega so they could very well be there, also Omega is from a diffrent realm and may be there again, its up to you to prove that they arent in hell since any other villains do wind up in hell as far as is know except for Janemba.

  • @SSJRyu1 Hell is shown during the Super 17 saga and most of the villains to have ever appeared show up again, and neither Janemba nor Hirudegarn were shown

    also, no, it isnt my case to prove anything for Janemba, it would be your case since YOU are the one debating for him for the benefir of YOUR SP argument ^^

    id call this a checkmate on the SP-Janemba topic

  • @itachizetsupein And many other villians dont show up either so its a simple matter of them being elsewhere, either in Hell or somewhere else on earth, so that incident doesnt prove that any arent in hell as many that we know are arent shown. So SP is still shown to eliminate an enemy from multiple planes since we do indeed not see janemba return to Hell where the heroes are.

  • @SSJRyu1 no, it isnt, give me a link ever stating it does that because i dont recall ever seeing it do what you claim BTW quite a casuality you forgot super 17 saga, and quite a casuality specifically these 2 villains are never seen ^^

  • @itachizetsupein Easy Cell and Frieza were still in hell and we dont se people like Broly yet hes referenced as in hell. Also theres many minor cast we dont see.

  • @SSJRyu1 Easy Janemba and Hirudegarn arent seen or referenced either ^^

    Still waiting for the concrete proof of your claims BTW

  • @itachizetsupein Janemba isnt there becouse since if he was hed have been causing the dimensions to go haywire and this never happens. And Haudegarn is simply elswhere unless you can prove otherwise since ive shown everybody is not present in the movie who is in Hell and there is nothing pointing to Hirudegarn not going to Hell.

  • @SSJRyu1 by that token i can say Hirudegarn wasnt there because if he was hed have been causing mass destruction in hell, yet that is never implied

    you have not shown anything my friend, prove malice has a soul or concede, im waiting for the concrete proof of your claims ^^