I am SOOOO tired and fed up with hearing about Obama this and Obama that. Focusing on him, or Bush for that matter, is ignoring political reality and is simply entertaining and distracting the herd. In that respect alone, The Real News is part of a grander Kabuki theatre than the talking head referred to.
About time Democratics realize Republicans are just a bunch of hard headed douche bags. It was their BOY [Bush & Cheney] that singlehandedly drove our nation to near collapse and now all the want to do is stick with political partisan fighting and back-stabbing [business as usual for them].
Forget the Republicans! All they want to do is SUCK the corporation's MAN-MEAT and let the poor die in the streets.
Are conspiracy theorists wrong for what they do? I don't think so at all, and I'll go even further in saying that maybe, just maybe, not all of them are as out there as some would portray them. Would not the consolidation of corporate and monetary powers that is happening right now give more than enough resources to those people that would seek to hoard even more power? After all, if rich middle eastern people can fund worldwide terrorist organizations, cant the same be said of executives?
all of these idiots bashing Obama have absolutely no basis for their accusations of him "selling out" beyond the simple fact that it's not EASY to reform shit. They ignore the fierce opposition from not only republicans but blue-dog democrats that are the SIGNIFICANT factors holding up the legislative process, the pull complete non-sequiturs and pull the conclusion out of their asses that somehow obama's part of a big world wide conspiracy. it's as laughable as thinking bush is a mastermind....
People bashing Bush for keeping or not keeping promises in the first year, and especially after 9/11 were all but ignored. People are allowed to criticize the president. In fact it's an absolutely necessary process. And as Bush's blind devotionism has shown, this should be at ANY TIME for any reason.
If the reasons are faulty they'll fail on their own merits.
And seeing conspirists is simply a sign that questions have not been answered. Or answered well.
Obama hasn't 'sold out'... because he never 'bought in' in the first place. It;s a tissue of lies. Corporate America pays his salary and he does what they want... like every other administration. I doubt Obama ever really thought he could get proper healthcare reform (you seriously think they didn't realise it was unfeasable during the campaign??). Obama is not a reformer, he's a POLITICIAN only - giving post-Bush U.S. a cleaner image, but that's all it is ... an image... an illusion.
What conspiracy?? I wish it was, you ignorant, gullible fuck!
You're obviously the most politcally naive person on youtube.
You should read a book.
It amuses me to be called a moron by someone like you because it means nothing.
Obama not only took millions from corporations to fund his campaign (was that a gift, you prick?), but presides over an administration of corporatists who want the status quo.
The major deals were done before he took office. It's sooooo fucking OBVIOUS.
you're a moron. the democrats, particularly obama himself, had enormous public support behind his agenda. he just refused to do it, and capitulated to lobbyists of the oligarchs of the country.
obama could've reformed, but he never wanted to. this is why goldman sachs now controls the financial industry, because they funded his, and the democrats, campaign.
ahaha yes the six scary men! oh my god! How can Obama stand up to these guys?!??!?!?! OH GOD
the blue dogs! here they come! You see, political parties work MAGICALLY in America! Bush's magic was better than Obama's, that's why he forcefully pushed his agenda and eventually had everything he wanted rubber-stamped by congress, but Obama is just not magical enough! A gang of six idiots and a bunch of spineless bluedogs: the magical world of NwZ2. Stay out of politics if you don't understand them.
actually no. Bush got his way because republicans are authoritarian and fiercely partisan. Progressives need to step it up n get these blue dog guys outta the picture, then maybe Obama could push shit through the same way bush could.
actually, i'm a political science major, but hey what do I know? I only know that if this was canada, party discipline wouldn't be a problem for *any* party. Huzzah for unfounded American distrust with anything but their guns.
hahaha political science, truly the most dismal science. even economics conjectures real fantasies, instead of ascribing phenomena to stupid unempirical obscenities. you must be giddy with joy at your degraded education: blue dogs! gang of six! it's impossible for you to recall johnson's technique of drumming up congressional support, or really any historical context. now how's about your shitty obscuntarist schooling?
it's a "science" in the colloquial sense, but a moron like you can't understand that. Political science is about as sciency as trying to objectively study yourself.
My point was that many would argue that the realm of politics and the nature of such social relations cannot be delved into, much like the natural, physical world might be. That there are no set "patterns", no "laws" or other such concrete facts that can be used to build up a system of knowledge for how mankind ought to govern themselves. Which is usually why democracy is a great thing because when it comes to organizing ourselves, there really *is* no best way.
The american political climate is that of centricity; you've said nothing new. However, I was speaking of obama himself. Aside from the bailouts, he hasn't demonstrated the tendencies of a neoliberal. Things like healthcare reform are *against* neoliberal ideals because it's government spending that discourages businesses from making profits, more or less.
This entire reform is one big swindle. Obama is protecting the corporate companies' profits and will fine those who don't buy insurance, this is a joke. People need to wake up, organize and push for real, radical change.
We need to make sure they know where we stand on health care reform. I have a list of phone numbers on my profile that will make it easy for you to allow your voice to be heard. I encourage you to call them all.
If he's owned by 'Israel' because of donations evidence, then he is also owned by health insurance, pharmaceuticals, and big banks. Would those groups buy a communist? Big Banks? Let's get it straight and not just use defaming words that oversimplify the discussion.
Agreed. The fact is medicaid doesn't have enough money to last past 2017 as it is. This is just foolishness to keep talking about increasing spending when the government is in the process of going bankrupt.
Obama will tell us how wonderful it is to have a public option, then he will let it die and take the bribes from the Lobbyists as he planed to do from the start.
it dosent matter what he says. he is already fucked. his whole presidency has gone to shit in just a few weeks. this speech is such a sign of desperation.
Lots of Talks, that's the prob! I am tired of him talking , Stop blaming the repubs....fall on your own sword or stand by it! Austraila has the best health care system they also have tort reform! England and Canada not nearly as good and Obama already made a deal with Big Pharma, and Big Insurance, so of course we will get the scraps again as we all know it will be looted and we get the shaft, I want what Senator Obama promised, healthcare that he had as asen...but they are exempt WTF?
OH no i don't suggest it's a bad thing. But the title is "The Real News" When it's actually commentary to actual news or under reported events. Like how Fox calls itself "news" when it's just commentary from start to finished. Or "Fair and Balanced" when it's nothing of the sort. So catch phrases and words go a long way with people.
Come on! Everyone knows this show has liberal bias (and an anti-corporate agenda)... but you surely know very well that's for the good. It may be mostly commentary, but the stories are news stories and very important.
On a practical level, they haven't the resources yet for on the ground reporters (like they hope to have in the future)
Please don't compare to FOX.... that's a cheap shot. Fox deceives people - TRN OBVIOUSLY tries to be honest. Nowadays, all news tends to be corporate-influenced.
I am SOOOO tired and fed up with hearing about Obama this and Obama that. Focusing on him, or Bush for that matter, is ignoring political reality and is simply entertaining and distracting the herd. In that respect alone, The Real News is part of a grander Kabuki theatre than the talking head referred to.
flyhead2 2 years ago
About time Democratics realize Republicans are just a bunch of hard headed douche bags. It was their BOY [Bush & Cheney] that singlehandedly drove our nation to near collapse and now all the want to do is stick with political partisan fighting and back-stabbing [business as usual for them].
Forget the Republicans! All they want to do is SUCK the corporation's MAN-MEAT and let the poor die in the streets.
yo1dude1man 2 years ago
make it based on income then
marniespeaks 2 years ago
well I suppose it will ultimately be that through taxation on the given means of an individual.
jamesyireland 2 years ago
if you still dont know what to think about Obama....
check out Webster Griffen Tarpley
erwickline 2 years ago
Are conspiracy theorists wrong for what they do? I don't think so at all, and I'll go even further in saying that maybe, just maybe, not all of them are as out there as some would portray them. Would not the consolidation of corporate and monetary powers that is happening right now give more than enough resources to those people that would seek to hoard even more power? After all, if rich middle eastern people can fund worldwide terrorist organizations, cant the same be said of executives?
mykecontrol314 2 years ago
conservative means bought an paid for. That is what these democrat senators, like Baucus are.
captcrais101 2 years ago
all of these idiots bashing Obama have absolutely no basis for their accusations of him "selling out" beyond the simple fact that it's not EASY to reform shit. They ignore the fierce opposition from not only republicans but blue-dog democrats that are the SIGNIFICANT factors holding up the legislative process, the pull complete non-sequiturs and pull the conclusion out of their asses that somehow obama's part of a big world wide conspiracy. it's as laughable as thinking bush is a mastermind....
NwZ2 2 years ago
People bashing Bush for keeping or not keeping promises in the first year, and especially after 9/11 were all but ignored. People are allowed to criticize the president. In fact it's an absolutely necessary process. And as Bush's blind devotionism has shown, this should be at ANY TIME for any reason.
If the reasons are faulty they'll fail on their own merits.
And seeing conspirists is simply a sign that questions have not been answered. Or answered well.
sirellyn 2 years ago
Obama hasn't 'sold out'... because he never 'bought in' in the first place. It;s a tissue of lies. Corporate America pays his salary and he does what they want... like every other administration. I doubt Obama ever really thought he could get proper healthcare reform (you seriously think they didn't realise it was unfeasable during the campaign??). Obama is not a reformer, he's a POLITICIAN only - giving post-Bush U.S. a cleaner image, but that's all it is ... an image... an illusion.
MrDarkbloom 2 years ago 4
shut the fuck up, you conspiracy wing-nut. you pretty much said the EXACT same shit, word for word, that i outlined was BULLSHIT.
You're a moron.
NwZ2 2 years ago
What conspiracy?? I wish it was, you ignorant, gullible fuck!
You're obviously the most politcally naive person on youtube.
You should read a book.
It amuses me to be called a moron by someone like you because it means nothing.
Obama not only took millions from corporations to fund his campaign (was that a gift, you prick?), but presides over an administration of corporatists who want the status quo.
The major deals were done before he took office. It's sooooo fucking OBVIOUS.
MrDarkbloom 2 years ago 2
you're a moron. the democrats, particularly obama himself, had enormous public support behind his agenda. he just refused to do it, and capitulated to lobbyists of the oligarchs of the country.
obama could've reformed, but he never wanted to. this is why goldman sachs now controls the financial industry, because they funded his, and the democrats, campaign.
mistarcraw 2 years ago 5
no, you're the idiot here. Ever heard of the "blue dog democrats"???? The gang of "6"???? Yea, totally ignore that, moron.
he couldn't have done SHIT without these people's votes and they aren't budging cause they're repubs in dem clothing.
NwZ2 2 years ago
ahaha yes the six scary men! oh my god! How can Obama stand up to these guys?!??!?!?! OH GOD
the blue dogs! here they come! You see, political parties work MAGICALLY in America! Bush's magic was better than Obama's, that's why he forcefully pushed his agenda and eventually had everything he wanted rubber-stamped by congress, but Obama is just not magical enough! A gang of six idiots and a bunch of spineless bluedogs: the magical world of NwZ2. Stay out of politics if you don't understand them.
mistarcraw 2 years ago
actually no. Bush got his way because republicans are authoritarian and fiercely partisan. Progressives need to step it up n get these blue dog guys outta the picture, then maybe Obama could push shit through the same way bush could.
NwZ2 2 years ago
actually, i'm a political science major, but hey what do I know? I only know that if this was canada, party discipline wouldn't be a problem for *any* party. Huzzah for unfounded American distrust with anything but their guns.
In before "LULZ SKOOL DUN TECH JOO NUTTIN!"
NwZ2 2 years ago
hahaha political science, truly the most dismal science. even economics conjectures real fantasies, instead of ascribing phenomena to stupid unempirical obscenities. you must be giddy with joy at your degraded education: blue dogs! gang of six! it's impossible for you to recall johnson's technique of drumming up congressional support, or really any historical context. now how's about your shitty obscuntarist schooling?
in before "insubstantial internet catchphrase"
stick to 4chan, kid
mistarcraw 2 years ago
it's a "science" in the colloquial sense, but a moron like you can't understand that. Political science is about as sciency as trying to objectively study yourself.
NwZ2 2 years ago
hahahahahahahhaha colloquial sense in the American education system, truly the expert leaders of the New American Century. lmao
mistarcraw 2 years ago
wooosh goes over your head......
My point was that many would argue that the realm of politics and the nature of such social relations cannot be delved into, much like the natural, physical world might be. That there are no set "patterns", no "laws" or other such concrete facts that can be used to build up a system of knowledge for how mankind ought to govern themselves. Which is usually why democracy is a great thing because when it comes to organizing ourselves, there really *is* no best way.
NwZ2 2 years ago
'Democracy', as it is manifested today (perhaps always has been) is based on the allegory of Plato's cave.
flyhead2 2 years ago
but keep laughing and calling the names of right wing think tanks as if somehow I haven't already established myself as a progressive. =\
Hubris is a funny thing.
NwZ2 2 years ago
you aren't a 'progressive' if you support obama's corporatist/neoliberal tendencies
mistarcraw 2 years ago
Obama? A neoliberal?
Roflsauce. I know he's center-left but neoliberal is practically calling him a conservative.
=\
You're so wrong, buddy.
NwZ2 2 years ago
you're a "political science major" and you don't know what a neoliberal is?
mistarcraw 2 years ago
you couldn't get that from what I was saying, that I KNOW what it is and that i'm saying you're wrong in your use of the term??
Jesus man. Just go away.
NwZ2 2 years ago
it is what he is, look at Geithner and Lawrence Summer. they are neoliberals. Look at Obama's 'reading list' for chrissakes, it's neoliberal.
does the truth bug and pester? how inconvenient it is! better throw some lulz at it, child
mistarcraw 2 years ago
The american political climate is that of centricity; you've said nothing new. However, I was speaking of obama himself. Aside from the bailouts, he hasn't demonstrated the tendencies of a neoliberal. Things like healthcare reform are *against* neoliberal ideals because it's government spending that discourages businesses from making profits, more or less.
NwZ2 2 years ago
Also: 90% of the shit you spew forth is irrelevant nonsensical babble and it shows just how stupid you really are.
Now pick your jaw up off the floor, dust yourself off from my verbal trashing, and go do something productive with your time, kid.
NwZ2 2 years ago
yeah, the english language sure is hard isnt it :(
mistarcraw 2 years ago
This entire reform is one big swindle. Obama is protecting the corporate companies' profits and will fine those who don't buy insurance, this is a joke. People need to wake up, organize and push for real, radical change.
AndrewMann552 2 years ago 6
Ditto that
MrDarkbloom 2 years ago
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We need to make sure they know where we stand on health care reform. I have a list of phone numbers on my profile that will make it easy for you to allow your voice to be heard. I encourage you to call them all.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago 2
No such person.
bundangbear 2 years ago
Baucus? really... give me Single Payer damnit.
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
If he quit we would get stuck with Joe Biden, the self-proclaimed Zionist, as president.
ArcticSlicer 2 years ago
If he's owned by 'Israel' because of donations evidence, then he is also owned by health insurance, pharmaceuticals, and big banks. Would those groups buy a communist? Big Banks? Let's get it straight and not just use defaming words that oversimplify the discussion.
siradam575 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
What Obummer should say is 'I quit.' The Campaign For America's Future is a front for socialism. Traitors one and all.
bbburton 2 years ago
More useless oversimplification. Say something productive or save us all the time wasted reading this.
siradam575 2 years ago
Quite trite and unintelligent response. Don't post crap back if you don't like the reply.
bbburton 2 years ago
I would like to see a commentary on how we could possibly afford such a venture.
btigtime2 2 years ago
The same way the government pays for the US' massive military enterprise.
By creating debt.
flyhead2 2 years ago 3
Agreed. The fact is medicaid doesn't have enough money to last past 2017 as it is. This is just foolishness to keep talking about increasing spending when the government is in the process of going bankrupt.
vinayakaya 2 years ago
Obama will tell us how wonderful it is to have a public option, then he will let it die and take the bribes from the Lobbyists as he planed to do from the start.
darktoadthesticky 2 years ago 5
not an unlikely scenario
Capitalocracy 2 years ago
it dosent matter what he says. he is already fucked. his whole presidency has gone to shit in just a few weeks. this speech is such a sign of desperation.
RoyalDemonforChrist 2 years ago
Lots of Talks, that's the prob! I am tired of him talking , Stop blaming the repubs....fall on your own sword or stand by it! Austraila has the best health care system they also have tort reform! England and Canada not nearly as good and Obama already made a deal with Big Pharma, and Big Insurance, so of course we will get the scraps again as we all know it will be looted and we get the shaft, I want what Senator Obama promised, healthcare that he had as asen...but they are exempt WTF?
winbri5 2 years ago
Leave the Republicans in the dust on this one, Mr. President.
gaystereotype 2 years ago
I just wish we could all live in a Maoist rut.
HuxleyWasRight 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The "Real News' should be called the "The Real" commentary. almost all of these vids have 30% news.
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago
discussing the news is a bad thing?
KrasnayaArmada 2 years ago
OH no i don't suggest it's a bad thing. But the title is "The Real News" When it's actually commentary to actual news or under reported events. Like how Fox calls itself "news" when it's just commentary from start to finished. Or "Fair and Balanced" when it's nothing of the sort. So catch phrases and words go a long way with people.
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago
Yeah but their only catch phrase is in their title and they are not exactly rich on resources.
KrasnayaArmada 2 years ago
Come on! Everyone knows this show has liberal bias (and an anti-corporate agenda)... but you surely know very well that's for the good. It may be mostly commentary, but the stories are news stories and very important.
On a practical level, they haven't the resources yet for on the ground reporters (like they hope to have in the future)
Please don't compare to FOX.... that's a cheap shot. Fox deceives people - TRN OBVIOUSLY tries to be honest. Nowadays, all news tends to be corporate-influenced.
MrDarkbloom 2 years ago