"it is SO much harder when you take out the worms and you gotto deal with the flyers.
mass broodlord is extremely frustrating."
Yeah, you're right. Though what was more frustrating (brood lords can be easily taken care of by a couple of vikings) was that I still had to fight strong ground forces, especially Kerrigan. So instead of just investing in anti-ground, I had to split between those and anti-air.
@thinkppl I found a funny trick for the broodlords. If you place the hive mind emulator right and keep a very close eye on what is going on around your base you can jack almost every broodlord that comes your way. I have a hard time on hard weather i go ground or air, but on normal jacking the broodlords made the battle so much easier. The broodlings slow down any ground, including karagen. It turned the match into a joke. On hard i can't get them up fast enough.
@madsrim mostly base based, so every upgrade / researches i got went to base development. And don't use the double SCV or Instant supply depot, no use for that.
@Darvlok actually double SVC and instant supply depot are both the most underrated upgrades when it comes down to the hard numbers they are bother better then their counter part even if you never get supply blocked time spent creating a supply depot (30 seconds per) could be spent minning, also the double scv allows for a much faster econ (twice as fast in fact) allowing you to end the games faster
@bawbmagit the point of singleplayer is not how to end a missie as fast as possible. But to have fun.
Supply depot is maybe good in the beginning, but then again maybe not. Because you don't have that many rescourses or you only have enough for weaker units. Later on you can just have one building a dozen supply depots and you don't lose a thing the other perk.
Double SVC is only good in the beginning, the still cost the same as making two SCV separately, and you lose the other perk.
I just did this today with putting at least 8 siege tanks on both sides. I got the merc banshees and the normal ones, shift targeted the nydus worms and used them at around 90% to help with the ground forces. The only thing you really gotta be careful about is Kerrigan's psi storm ability. they'll wipe out your entire group of banshees if you're not paying attention.
I would love to see a video of this done with the air still intact. I know you gave mrmaxio a small tip with handling it, but before coming here I've already tried that several times. More than anything, one of my sides defenses falls because of kerrigan or the brood lords sniping structures without the game even mentioning that they're under attack, so by the time i see them half of my bunkers are gone and that's all it takes when i get flooded over there with the recharge still coming.
@Darvlok I got 96% with marine spam(I only play hard ^^). Actually i have only tried with air unit intact and i cant find a single video who shows how to do it. I mean, for christ sake there must be some1 who have done it.
@KerythFigaro wut? i thought the air units were easier than dealing with the nydus worms. i had to beat it with cheats when i left the worms and i beat it first try against the air units. both on normal :/ also the mission to destroy the nydus worms is more fun
@ArchMageFarnos yeah i see what your saying but the problem i always had was later when the waves of enemies kept coming more frequently and bigger i always had trouble killing the worms so i kept getting overwhelmed. but then again i am kind of a noobie at this game so it could have just been bad control and army management on my part
@vekk513 Right, I'm talking about hard mode. I'm not sure what normal throws at you except that it's probably a lot less than what hard mode throws at me. Then again, I haven't had time to try the mission again. Wanted to try it one more time and see if I can just build like 4 vikings for each side for those brood lords...it's hard when kerrigan comes by and snipes them awhile using a single skill to blow your whole defense up in one go. I hate that skill with a passion.
@vekk513 There has to be a better way to handle Kerrigan that I'm missing. There's just no way that it's this hard to stop her from completely taking down one side. My best idea I've had is actually from some of these videos with the nydus worms. I think maybe if i throw extra buildings in front to hit her first, she may use her skill on those first and then my main defense will still be intact. if that works out, I'll be golden I think. I'll cry if I can beat it. Maybe I should record myself...
@KerythFigaro heh if you actually do send me the video i would like to see your strategy. i ended up getting it by massing low cost units like marines with a few thors. my army was marines, medics, thors, and vikings/bcruisers for air units +mercs. it worked pretty well for me
@KerythFigaro actually, it was all I could do to complete it vs air. I kept getting crushed vs ground. it's just a matter of spamming those mind-control towers and grabbing several pages of mutalisks and just about every broodlord you can get your hands on. mind-controlled broodlords keep the queen of blades buisy, allowing you to focus fire her while she stands there killing broodlings, and they also clog up the ramps to the artifact. I only barely made it though, see my uploads ;)
Haha! I couldnt beat this mission at all on hard first! Then I found your videos, and I beat it by using the Nova only once! Thanks a ton for sharing the strategy!
The hardest part of this mission is Karrigan, she comes and ruins my whole defense line. ><
billnye69 1 month ago
@billnye69 Yeah, the Zerg are not that big of a threat.
Darvlok 1 month ago
do psi emitters stack?
milksteak34 9 months ago
@milksteak34 when i made this video no, but don't know if the changed it in patches.
Darvlok 9 months ago
@Darvlok it's probably the same now but havent checked. i would have punched myself in the dick if they did
milksteak34 9 months ago
Hmmm.. What if there is a DOTA version of starcraft? Like it would be changed
xaiber16 9 months ago
@xaiber16 DOTA sucks.... disgrace for the strategic games.
Darvlok 9 months ago 9
@Darvlok Well, yah you got the point.
xaiber16 9 months ago
@xaiber16 there is a sc version of dota
samsing900 3 months ago
@samsing900 Jim Raynor: Ohh yeahhhh!
xaiber16 3 months ago
"it is SO much harder when you take out the worms and you gotto deal with the flyers.
mass broodlord is extremely frustrating."
Yeah, you're right. Though what was more frustrating (brood lords can be easily taken care of by a couple of vikings) was that I still had to fight strong ground forces, especially Kerrigan. So instead of just investing in anti-ground, I had to split between those and anti-air.
Trias88 1 year ago
Hi, could you mail me a save?
I took out the nydus and the flyers are such a pain.
I dont have my older saves so I cant simply back. ):
Please msg me on YT.
Thanks in advance
xKappash 1 year ago
Easier way: shitload of Spectres and Tanks.
OzaiR2k 1 year ago
What Do you recommend That i Should do make the air units go away or the nydus worms?
kevise1 1 year ago
what is the final mission air called i wanna see it
frankmirfan455 1 year ago
@frankmirfan455 shatter the sky i think
garce4ever1 9 months ago
Has anyone gotten the burn and turn achievement??
smeagless 1 year ago
it is SO much harder when you take out the worms and you gotto deal with the flyers.
mass broodlord is extremely frustrating.
thinkppl 1 year ago
@thinkppl I found a funny trick for the broodlords. If you place the hive mind emulator right and keep a very close eye on what is going on around your base you can jack almost every broodlord that comes your way. I have a hard time on hard weather i go ground or air, but on normal jacking the broodlords made the battle so much easier. The broodlings slow down any ground, including karagen. It turned the match into a joke. On hard i can't get them up fast enough.
wagoner011984 1 year ago
I set a Lot of tanks =) and it worked very good :)
Thehekser 1 year ago
what upgrades and researches do you have. i would like to know that alot. :)
madsrim 1 year ago
@madsrim mostly base based, so every upgrade / researches i got went to base development. And don't use the double SCV or Instant supply depot, no use for that.
Darvlok 1 year ago
@Darvlok thanks, but i also wanted to know your unit upgrades as well. :)
madsrim 1 year ago
@madsrim Well i upgraded all the foot soldiers and the siege tank. The rest i put in random units.
Darvlok 1 year ago
@Darvlok ok. thank you very much. :)
madsrim 1 year ago
@Darvlok actually double SVC and instant supply depot are both the most underrated upgrades when it comes down to the hard numbers they are bother better then their counter part even if you never get supply blocked time spent creating a supply depot (30 seconds per) could be spent minning, also the double scv allows for a much faster econ (twice as fast in fact) allowing you to end the games faster
bawbmagit 1 year ago
@bawbmagit the point of singleplayer is not how to end a missie as fast as possible. But to have fun.
Supply depot is maybe good in the beginning, but then again maybe not. Because you don't have that many rescourses or you only have enough for weaker units. Later on you can just have one building a dozen supply depots and you don't lose a thing the other perk.
Double SVC is only good in the beginning, the still cost the same as making two SCV separately, and you lose the other perk.
Darvlok 1 year ago
those tech labs are combined with reacters
SuperPophop 1 year ago
I just did this today with putting at least 8 siege tanks on both sides. I got the merc banshees and the normal ones, shift targeted the nydus worms and used them at around 90% to help with the ground forces. The only thing you really gotta be careful about is Kerrigan's psi storm ability. they'll wipe out your entire group of banshees if you're not paying attention.
QuelDr0ma 1 year ago
at 1:13 whats that terran sturcture doing pounding in to the gorund its new cause it wasn't in the beta?
SuperPophop 1 year ago
@SuperPophop PSI disruptor, end Zerg scientist tree. Its slows all Zerg Units.
Darvlok 1 year ago
@Darvlok cool can't w8 to get the game its expensive but tits worth it
SuperPophop 1 year ago
@caesar512
we are talking here about last mission with psi corruptors not mind control towers.
with these things its a piece of cake.
Dieter6666 1 year ago
yeah...same here.
if you make a vid pls send ;)
Dieter6666 1 year ago
@Kerthy
I know what you mean...its insane
i cant get it done on hard
either kerrigan or broodlords mess up one of my defense points and when this huge muta spawning monster appears at about 70% im fucked.
now i wont get my last achievement i guess because i made wrong decisions.
i chose psi disruptor+i dont even have these flaming turrets
Dieter6666 1 year ago
super easy
Compl3te 1 year ago
I would love to see a video of this done with the air still intact. I know you gave mrmaxio a small tip with handling it, but before coming here I've already tried that several times. More than anything, one of my sides defenses falls because of kerrigan or the brood lords sniping structures without the game even mentioning that they're under attack, so by the time i see them half of my bunkers are gone and that's all it takes when i get flooded over there with the recharge still coming.
KerythFigaro 1 year ago
@KerythFigaro yeah i hate flying units also, already tried to beat it onces got to 75 % :)
Darvlok 1 year ago
@Darvlok I got 96% with marine spam(I only play hard ^^). Actually i have only tried with air unit intact and i cant find a single video who shows how to do it. I mean, for christ sake there must be some1 who have done it.
FeastyBacon 1 year ago
@Darvlok
I got the psi mind control structures and MC'ed like 20 broodlords. I then sent all the brood lords at kerrigan. They chewed her up.
QuelDr0ma 1 year ago
@KerythFigaro wut? i thought the air units were easier than dealing with the nydus worms. i had to beat it with cheats when i left the worms and i beat it first try against the air units. both on normal :/ also the mission to destroy the nydus worms is more fun
vekk513 1 year ago
@vekk513 I kept the worms I think it's better not to think about air units you can focus on ground don't need to split ur units
ArchMageFarnos 1 year ago
@ArchMageFarnos yeah i see what your saying but the problem i always had was later when the waves of enemies kept coming more frequently and bigger i always had trouble killing the worms so i kept getting overwhelmed. but then again i am kind of a noobie at this game so it could have just been bad control and army management on my part
vekk513 1 year ago
@vekk513 I'm no pro nor a hardcore SC player to.. also near the end of the game I even didn't killed some worms (no banshes)
ArchMageFarnos 1 year ago
@vekk513 Right, I'm talking about hard mode. I'm not sure what normal throws at you except that it's probably a lot less than what hard mode throws at me. Then again, I haven't had time to try the mission again. Wanted to try it one more time and see if I can just build like 4 vikings for each side for those brood lords...it's hard when kerrigan comes by and snipes them awhile using a single skill to blow your whole defense up in one go. I hate that skill with a passion.
KerythFigaro 1 year ago
@KerythFigaro agreed. thats what really got me combined with the nydus worms. it destoryed half of my defense and i didnt have enough to hold off
vekk513 1 year ago
@vekk513 There has to be a better way to handle Kerrigan that I'm missing. There's just no way that it's this hard to stop her from completely taking down one side. My best idea I've had is actually from some of these videos with the nydus worms. I think maybe if i throw extra buildings in front to hit her first, she may use her skill on those first and then my main defense will still be intact. if that works out, I'll be golden I think. I'll cry if I can beat it. Maybe I should record myself...
KerythFigaro 1 year ago
@KerythFigaro heh if you actually do send me the video i would like to see your strategy. i ended up getting it by massing low cost units like marines with a few thors. my army was marines, medics, thors, and vikings/bcruisers for air units +mercs. it worked pretty well for me
vekk513 1 year ago
@KerythFigaro actually, it was all I could do to complete it vs air. I kept getting crushed vs ground. it's just a matter of spamming those mind-control towers and grabbing several pages of mutalisks and just about every broodlord you can get your hands on. mind-controlled broodlords keep the queen of blades buisy, allowing you to focus fire her while she stands there killing broodlings, and they also clog up the ramps to the artifact. I only barely made it though, see my uploads ;)
Caesar512 1 year ago
@Caesar512
same. Just Mc'ed brood lords like a maniac.
QuelDr0ma 1 year ago
It looks like normal difficulty.....
Maurinovsky 1 year ago
umm, is this on Brutal???
blackcaim 1 year ago
@blackcaim Hard
Darvlok 1 year ago
@MasterRexGR Oke, good luck.
Darvlok 1 year ago
@MasterRexGR hey, its the final research option of the zerg.
Darvlok 1 year ago
Any tips for those of who don't have flame turrets...?
Jonneymarket 1 year ago
@Jonneymarket place multiple command centers with turrets.
Darvlok 1 year ago
I want to do this mission without ussing the artifact... but it's so hard
ignamax08 1 year ago
@ignamax08 well you need to use it onces with the AIR attack, but after that you don't need it.
Darvlok 1 year ago
Anyone got some tips for me? Im trying this mission Vs flying on hard(need the achievement also) tell me if you know some handy tactics
mrmaxio 1 year ago
@mrmaxio build massive amounts of vikings.
Darvlok 1 year ago
Haha! I couldnt beat this mission at all on hard first! Then I found your videos, and I beat it by using the Nova only once! Thanks a ton for sharing the strategy!
WNxAtlas 1 year ago
@WNxAtlas np, this is the only tacktick to win this map on hard.
Darvlok 1 year ago
Je speelt echt goed, alleen handiger om sneltoetsen te gebruiken zodat je sneller kan bouwen maar echt knap gedaan
loladin100 1 year ago
@loladin100 Dank je, ben niet echt goed met sneltoetsen, kan ze nooit echt onthouden allemaal.
Darvlok 1 year ago
@Darvlok Dat komt wel :3 hoe vaker je een ras speelt hoe makkelijker het onthouden wordt.
loladin100 1 year ago
@loladin100 Ik hoop het :)
Darvlok 1 year ago
The thor sound like arnold schwargenager.lol
ponyhunter99 1 year ago
@ponyhunter99 Yeah I noticed that too.
Darvlok 1 year ago
Nice job man. Just got to this level on normal mode, first level i've failed on so far.
Meetero 1 year ago 3
@Meetero Thanks! :)
Darvlok 1 year ago
you know you can call down mules directly on mineral patches and they'll automatically start mining them.
yoduh99 1 year ago
@yoduh99 Hmm no i did not, thanks for the tip.
Darvlok 1 year ago