Being an atheist terrorist is impossible. Atheism is the absence of belief, not the belief of absence. You can't kill in the name of nothing, that's just being a dick for the sake of being a dick.
@crabwise69 have you heard what breivik said himself? That he thought there was a god of a kind but he wasnt particularly religious? I guess not. Take christianity away and he would still be xenophobic and resentfull against muslims. Maybe your the one who should think more clearly and be better informed.
"I am absolutely convinced that the main source of hatred in the world is religion and I think it should be ridiculed."- C. Hitchens
Delusion- 'the persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects, outside the self, that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary.'
Stalin and Mao killed people BECAUSE they wanted political expedience to secure their seats power, not because they were atheists. What that woman did was analogous to framing mustached men for being evil on the pretext that all evil dictators had mustaches.
I agree Bill. You can't have your cake and eat it either. The thing is people who are christian don't want us to remember the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition....THOSE NEVER HAPPENED.
Its ironic, have you seen religolous? there is a bit where he shows videos of several different Islamic apologists stating "Its not religon, its jst politics"
From what I understand the terrorist was a christian and killed because he was against the alleged islamification of his country......sounds heaps similar to the WTC bombers
@shandcunt There are many apologists that do that, in many religions, i agree. But what i am saying is that if you take away christianity, he would still be xenophobic. Many people who do not believe in a god share many of his opinions. He said himself he isnt particulary religious.
@ELEMENTSFAN666 He said himself he believed there was a god, but wasnt particulary religious. His Xenophobia is the problem, which many share, not just religious people. Take away religion and he would still have his reason for doing what he did.
@IneffableLifestyle he wasn't religious in the sense that he would to mass every Sunday, but he did state in his manifesto he was "100% christian", but also that he wasn't "excessively religious" he considered himself a "cultural Christan" and a "modern day crusader", i see where your coming from, he probably would have committed the same acts without religion, but I'm not blaming religion for what he did it just gives "him" justification for what he did"
@ELEMENTSFAN666 Yeah, "cultural christian". Most norwegians are, and most norwegians are also atheist. But the justification he used could have been taken from several places, they are not only found in christianity. He didnt do what he did in the name of or because of christianity, so calling him a christian terrorist would be wrong, or at the very least very misleading.
@IneffableLifestyle lmao but he identifies him self as christian and he is a terrorist, so not really. i can see where you're coming from, but even if an Islamic suicide bomber blows himself up, not in the name of his religion but some other reason ie ( politics) he is still labeled as an Islamic terrorist.
@ELEMENTSFAN666 yeah, and thats wrong. And two wrongs doesnt make a right ;) So calling abb a terrorist unjustly because a middleeastern man is unjustly called a terrorist doesnt make any sense, obviously. But lets say abb didnt believe in a god, which is the most essential part of the religion, would he still have the motive to do what he did? To me thats simple, yes he would have.
@IneffableLifestyle lmao i didn't disagree with you on that point, "without or without religion you'd have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things," "but it takes religion for good people to do bad things" just thought id through the rest of the quote on there lol.
@ELEMENTSFAN666 yes ive heard that one before.. but thats just what im saying is wrong here. You dont need religion for abb do do what he did. Take it away and his xenophobia is still there. Xenophobia is really the issue here, not religion.
@IneffableLifestyle i know lmao i completely understand where your coming from, i was trying to agree with you in the last comment. that's why i wrote "just thought id through the rest of the quote on there". I'm not saying he did it just because of religion, i only see it as a contributing factor , and your right his xenophobia is why he committed those acts , i wasn't saying religion was the problem.
@IneffableLifestyle sorry but you need to look up Breivik. he was a self-identified christian and did what he did to make sure islam doesn't spread in Norway. he thought of himself as a knights templar to restore the essence of christianhood in Norway. so cultural christian or religious christian doesn't mean shit in this case.
@MsDDiddy i really dont need to look him up, im norwegian and have been bombarded with information about him everywhere i go. Yeah he did what he did to make sure islam didn't grow in europe, so? Many atheists and people of other religions feel the same way. Cultural christian or religious christian means all the difference when you choose to call him a "christian terrorist". Take away the religion, and he would still be xenophobic.
@IneffableLifestyle and take away the "muslim" terrorists' religion and they'd just be people against western culture and the expansion of the american army into their territory. what's your point?
@MsDDiddy Do you really need me to spell it out for you? Wow, ok. If a terrorist is fighting against the expansion of the american army into their territory, and not because of some divine command from Allah, it would be wrong to call him a muslim terrorist. That's my point.
Wow i love how religious people point to stalin and say atheism is deadlier then religion. First of all, although stalin did kill millions of people, he didnt do it b/c he sed since theres no god it must be ok to kill, no his desire was to become the super power in the world and others must die for me to get stronger. He was politically driven, not driven by the fact that there is no god
Maher is pathetic trying to americanize the Breivik case. There are not fundamentalist christian churches in Europe led by assholes that burn korans or blame gays for earthquackes. In fact, EVERY SINGLE christian church in Europe opposes the right-wing populist agenda against Islam and muslim immigration. Breivik, according to his own words, was not religious. Which is quite typical in the new wave of islamophic populism (for example, Geert Wilders)
Atheism is disbelief in deities or denial of them which makes it at best a single negative belief (gnostic atheism). That's it, it's not even a belief system, much less a worldview, an ideology, a philosophy that we can be reasonably hold its proponents accountable.
What Stalin and Mao are infamously known for (Stalinism/Maoism) was carrying out a totalitarian and genocidal social and cultural programs and blaming that on atheism is worse than blaming it on Stalin's moustache or Mao's baldness.
@Dodarimo The belief in the government as the supreme ruler of our lifes is reponsible of more and worse atrocities in one single century than religion in thousands of years.
@Dodarimo Every person has a belief system. And you don´t need to believe in God to be a violent maniac. What i read in youtube and other sites is many self-proclaimed atheist people that use the fallacy of guilt by association to blame ALL christianity for concrete and individual actions. That´s what neocons have done with Islam. Both those atheists and neocons do it to push a political agenda (a belief system).
@Dodarimo Excellent comment.when religious types try this "atheism killed millions in Stalins purges etc" line it shows the weakness of their argument,it`s grasping at straws in the worst way.The crusades,Spanish inquisition etc killed specifically in the name of god.Franco and Pinochet also used the catholic church to crush opposition.The churchs role in the Spanish civil war is particularly revolting.when the fascists seized a town,the priests were used to pick out "reds" for instant execution
@Dodarimo Cont-franco`s definition of "reds" included-socialists,anarchists,trade unionists,feminists,protestants,liberals,republicans,poets,intellectuals,teachers,doctors who treated wounded republican soldiers and the families,including children,of all the above.The church,with a few noble exceptions,enthusiastically collaborated.
I think the point that is being missed here is that were Stalin a Christian or Muslim, he still would've carried out the atrocities he did; whereas, if Jihadists (for example) were Atheist - if they didn't believe they had a higher purpose than this life to serve, then tragedies like 9/11 would not have occurred
It's a documented fact that most Pedophiles are white, christian males, roughly 84.5%, but did you know that 93% of Pedophiles are religious?
religion is madness. they are delusional, dishonest idiots.. who think they can do anything they like, good and bad, as long as they convince themselves their god says its ok.
That bitch drives me crazy. Stalin was not a secular person. He wanted to be a god, banning all other beliefs and forcing his people to worship his leadership. He did not believe in god but he created a state religion, a system that revolved around him.
Just like Kim and Mao. All systems Identical to religion
Let me make this clear. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot... DID NOT kill in the name of atheism (or non-belief, as I prefer to call it). I repeat: they DID NOT kill in the name of non-belief. And Hitler was a catholic.
@xaviqaz Neither Stalin or Mao(or Pol pot) killed in the name of real socialism or atheism.They killed enemies(and imagined enemies and political rivals) to preserve their power at the top of a totalitarian system.Stalin perverted socialism to maintain his grip.mao was never a deep socialist or marxist thinker.Socialism has existed in democracies for a century.Socialists built the NHS here in the UK.Norway has a socialist govt now.True socialism never advocates dictatorship.
@xaviqaz You`re just tagging these dictatorships wth the name "socialism".Please name one socialist writer who advocates the type of policies used by Stalin,Mao,Pol Pot,Kim il Sung etc.Even Marx didn`t advocate that sort of society.
@xaviqaz Socialism is a belief? Man, go back to school. It's a political ideology, not a belief. Do you believe in capitalism? No, you don't. You just think it's a good way to live in a society (economically speaking). And, just so you know, they were not socialists. Socialism is not evil, as you teabaggers shout out without knowing anything about it. They were extreme communists, if you wish, and it is absolutely not the same thing. If you think so, go back to school.
@xmaneater Yea, but no matter how many times you explain that to a religious person they'll do the equivalent of shutting their eyes and covering their ears. I mean, if they had even thought their reasoning for a SECOND they'd see the fact that there's nothing in atheism that says kill people. lol
@xmaneater While I agree regarding Stalin, Mao, and Pol pot. Hitler wasn't a catholic. He respected Catholicism and the church mentioned him a few times but Hitler actually believed in some weird voodoo anti-semetic shit that never really made any sense.
These stupid KKKristian fundamentalists always pull out that shit of "atheist war crimes". That argument was destroyed over and over and over and they keep coming with it. It's pretty clear is all they got.
If I had to be sentenced to death and had to pick the group that decides to kill me, I would pick a dictatorship over religious fanatics. At least in the first scenario they will see me as an enemy of the state, of a drain on resources. Religious fanatics would kill me because their god "told" them, and that is just a slap in the face.
@vmorgun HAHA. and in the dictatorship you most surely have atleast a chance of becoming usefull to society and escaping your fate. nope not in religion.
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Andohish 6 days ago
haha dumb bitch
theNATTTTTT 1 week ago
I love this guy what channel is he on
floresjoel05 1 week ago
she is not in the kitchen
bardiche1989 3 weeks ago
Is there some reason that Republican conservative women always have bleach blonde hair??
cheyla38 3 weeks ago
Being an atheist terrorist is impossible. Atheism is the absence of belief, not the belief of absence. You can't kill in the name of nothing, that's just being a dick for the sake of being a dick.
harry426 1 month ago
For the truth about religion watch "Frankie Boyle on religion"
travellingboy1 1 month ago
@crabwise69 have you heard what breivik said himself? That he thought there was a god of a kind but he wasnt particularly religious? I guess not. Take christianity away and he would still be xenophobic and resentfull against muslims. Maybe your the one who should think more clearly and be better informed.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
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IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
"I am absolutely convinced that the main source of hatred in the world is religion and I think it should be ridiculed."- C. Hitchens
Delusion- 'the persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects, outside the self, that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary.'
saxmanchiro 2 months ago
Stalin and Mao killed people BECAUSE they wanted political expedience to secure their seats power, not because they were atheists. What that woman did was analogous to framing mustached men for being evil on the pretext that all evil dictators had mustaches.
IncognitoObserver 2 months ago
Also lady read the guys manifesto...he was a self proclaimed Templar....
Syntheticxox 3 months ago
I agree Bill. You can't have your cake and eat it either. The thing is people who are christian don't want us to remember the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition....THOSE NEVER HAPPENED.
Syntheticxox 3 months ago
@IneffableLifestyle Wait let me guess....
"Its just politics"
Its ironic, have you seen religolous? there is a bit where he shows videos of several different Islamic apologists stating "Its not religon, its jst politics"
From what I understand the terrorist was a christian and killed because he was against the alleged islamification of his country......sounds heaps similar to the WTC bombers
shandcunt 3 months ago
@shandcunt There are many apologists that do that, in many religions, i agree. But what i am saying is that if you take away christianity, he would still be xenophobic. Many people who do not believe in a god share many of his opinions. He said himself he isnt particulary religious.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
Im afraid Bill is wrong about Breivik. He wasn't particulary religious and did what he did for political reasons.
IneffableLifestyle 3 months ago
@IneffableLifestyle wasn't particularly religious? he was a self proclaimed knights Templar.
ELEMENTSFAN666 1 month ago
@ELEMENTSFAN666 He said himself he believed there was a god, but wasnt particulary religious. His Xenophobia is the problem, which many share, not just religious people. Take away religion and he would still have his reason for doing what he did.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
@IneffableLifestyle he wasn't religious in the sense that he would to mass every Sunday, but he did state in his manifesto he was "100% christian", but also that he wasn't "excessively religious" he considered himself a "cultural Christan" and a "modern day crusader", i see where your coming from, he probably would have committed the same acts without religion, but I'm not blaming religion for what he did it just gives "him" justification for what he did"
ELEMENTSFAN666 1 month ago
@ELEMENTSFAN666 Yeah, "cultural christian". Most norwegians are, and most norwegians are also atheist. But the justification he used could have been taken from several places, they are not only found in christianity. He didnt do what he did in the name of or because of christianity, so calling him a christian terrorist would be wrong, or at the very least very misleading.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
@IneffableLifestyle lmao but he identifies him self as christian and he is a terrorist, so not really. i can see where you're coming from, but even if an Islamic suicide bomber blows himself up, not in the name of his religion but some other reason ie ( politics) he is still labeled as an Islamic terrorist.
ELEMENTSFAN666 1 month ago
@ELEMENTSFAN666 yeah, and thats wrong. And two wrongs doesnt make a right ;) So calling abb a terrorist unjustly because a middleeastern man is unjustly called a terrorist doesnt make any sense, obviously. But lets say abb didnt believe in a god, which is the most essential part of the religion, would he still have the motive to do what he did? To me thats simple, yes he would have.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
@IneffableLifestyle lmao i didn't disagree with you on that point, "without or without religion you'd have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things," "but it takes religion for good people to do bad things" just thought id through the rest of the quote on there lol.
ELEMENTSFAN666 1 month ago
@ELEMENTSFAN666 yes ive heard that one before.. but thats just what im saying is wrong here. You dont need religion for abb do do what he did. Take it away and his xenophobia is still there. Xenophobia is really the issue here, not religion.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
@IneffableLifestyle i know lmao i completely understand where your coming from, i was trying to agree with you in the last comment. that's why i wrote "just thought id through the rest of the quote on there". I'm not saying he did it just because of religion, i only see it as a contributing factor , and your right his xenophobia is why he committed those acts , i wasn't saying religion was the problem.
ELEMENTSFAN666 1 month ago
@IneffableLifestyle sorry but you need to look up Breivik. he was a self-identified christian and did what he did to make sure islam doesn't spread in Norway. he thought of himself as a knights templar to restore the essence of christianhood in Norway. so cultural christian or religious christian doesn't mean shit in this case.
MsDDiddy 1 month ago
@MsDDiddy i really dont need to look him up, im norwegian and have been bombarded with information about him everywhere i go. Yeah he did what he did to make sure islam didn't grow in europe, so? Many atheists and people of other religions feel the same way. Cultural christian or religious christian means all the difference when you choose to call him a "christian terrorist". Take away the religion, and he would still be xenophobic.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
@IneffableLifestyle and take away the "muslim" terrorists' religion and they'd just be people against western culture and the expansion of the american army into their territory. what's your point?
MsDDiddy 1 month ago
@MsDDiddy Do you really need me to spell it out for you? Wow, ok. If a terrorist is fighting against the expansion of the american army into their territory, and not because of some divine command from Allah, it would be wrong to call him a muslim terrorist. That's my point.
IneffableLifestyle 1 month ago
Walter White/Tim Whatly kicks ass!
jronzani 4 months ago
Wow i love how religious people point to stalin and say atheism is deadlier then religion. First of all, although stalin did kill millions of people, he didnt do it b/c he sed since theres no god it must be ok to kill, no his desire was to become the super power in the world and others must die for me to get stronger. He was politically driven, not driven by the fact that there is no god
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Anders Breivik is Zionist .. not christian fundamentalism
83RW 5 months ago
I would say the Christian religion is a well funded terrorism network.
SalsaShark109 6 months ago 3
how many people did Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot actually personally kill?
What do you want to bet that most of the guys doing the dirty work believed in God?
U5K0 6 months ago
Maher is pathetic trying to americanize the Breivik case. There are not fundamentalist christian churches in Europe led by assholes that burn korans or blame gays for earthquackes. In fact, EVERY SINGLE christian church in Europe opposes the right-wing populist agenda against Islam and muslim immigration. Breivik, according to his own words, was not religious. Which is quite typical in the new wave of islamophic populism (for example, Geert Wilders)
xaviqaz 6 months ago
Atheism is disbelief in deities or denial of them which makes it at best a single negative belief (gnostic atheism). That's it, it's not even a belief system, much less a worldview, an ideology, a philosophy that we can be reasonably hold its proponents accountable.
What Stalin and Mao are infamously known for (Stalinism/Maoism) was carrying out a totalitarian and genocidal social and cultural programs and blaming that on atheism is worse than blaming it on Stalin's moustache or Mao's baldness.
Dodarimo 6 months ago
@Dodarimo The belief in the government as the supreme ruler of our lifes is reponsible of more and worse atrocities in one single century than religion in thousands of years.
xaviqaz 6 months ago
@Dodarimo Every person has a belief system. And you don´t need to believe in God to be a violent maniac. What i read in youtube and other sites is many self-proclaimed atheist people that use the fallacy of guilt by association to blame ALL christianity for concrete and individual actions. That´s what neocons have done with Islam. Both those atheists and neocons do it to push a political agenda (a belief system).
xaviqaz 6 months ago
@Dodarimo Excellent comment.when religious types try this "atheism killed millions in Stalins purges etc" line it shows the weakness of their argument,it`s grasping at straws in the worst way.The crusades,Spanish inquisition etc killed specifically in the name of god.Franco and Pinochet also used the catholic church to crush opposition.The churchs role in the Spanish civil war is particularly revolting.when the fascists seized a town,the priests were used to pick out "reds" for instant execution
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@Dodarimo Cont-franco`s definition of "reds" included-socialists,anarchists,trade unionists,feminists,protestants,liberals,republicans,poets,intellectuals,teachers,doctors who treated wounded republican soldiers and the families,including children,of all the above.The church,with a few noble exceptions,enthusiastically collaborated.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
that was a george carlin reference at the end
Grisha1994 6 months ago 2
shes clueless, it was not atheism
lhurien 6 months ago
Fuck that stupid bitch in the red shirt
id1337x 6 months ago
Attach the word "god" to anything and people suspend all rational thinking!
neenerpuss 6 months ago
I think the point that is being missed here is that were Stalin a Christian or Muslim, he still would've carried out the atrocities he did; whereas, if Jihadists (for example) were Atheist - if they didn't believe they had a higher purpose than this life to serve, then tragedies like 9/11 would not have occurred
acphenom 6 months ago
It's a documented fact that most Pedophiles are white, christian males, roughly 84.5%, but did you know that 93% of Pedophiles are religious?
religion is madness. they are delusional, dishonest idiots.. who think they can do anything they like, good and bad, as long as they convince themselves their god says its ok.
sethecx 6 months ago
That bitch drives me crazy. Stalin was not a secular person. He wanted to be a god, banning all other beliefs and forcing his people to worship his leadership. He did not believe in god but he created a state religion, a system that revolved around him.
Just like Kim and Mao. All systems Identical to religion
GrecoWrestlerNJ70 6 months ago 21
Let me make this clear. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot... DID NOT kill in the name of atheism (or non-belief, as I prefer to call it). I repeat: they DID NOT kill in the name of non-belief. And Hitler was a catholic.
xmaneater 6 months ago 31
@xmaneater before he was a dictator stalin also wanted to be a priest
62cky4powerthirst 6 months ago
@xmaneater No, they killed in the name of real socialism, which is a belief
xaviqaz 6 months ago
@xaviqaz Neither Stalin or Mao(or Pol pot) killed in the name of real socialism or atheism.They killed enemies(and imagined enemies and political rivals) to preserve their power at the top of a totalitarian system.Stalin perverted socialism to maintain his grip.mao was never a deep socialist or marxist thinker.Socialism has existed in democracies for a century.Socialists built the NHS here in the UK.Norway has a socialist govt now.True socialism never advocates dictatorship.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 To preserve a totalitarian system called socialism. Norway has social democracy
xaviqaz 6 months ago
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@xaviqaz You`re just tagging these dictatorships wth the name "socialism".Please name one socialist writer who advocates the type of policies used by Stalin,Mao,Pol Pot,Kim il Sung etc.Even Marx didn`t advocate that sort of society.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@xaviqaz Socialism is a belief? Man, go back to school. It's a political ideology, not a belief. Do you believe in capitalism? No, you don't. You just think it's a good way to live in a society (economically speaking). And, just so you know, they were not socialists. Socialism is not evil, as you teabaggers shout out without knowing anything about it. They were extreme communists, if you wish, and it is absolutely not the same thing. If you think so, go back to school.
xmaneater 6 months ago
@xmaneater It´s a belief system, of course
xaviqaz 6 months ago
@xmaneater what drives me nuts is people think they were drove by atheism...it's people will always see atheism as evil....
Syntheticxox 3 months ago
@xmaneater Yea, but no matter how many times you explain that to a religious person they'll do the equivalent of shutting their eyes and covering their ears. I mean, if they had even thought their reasoning for a SECOND they'd see the fact that there's nothing in atheism that says kill people. lol
EJNewbury 2 months ago
@xmaneater While I agree regarding Stalin, Mao, and Pol pot. Hitler wasn't a catholic. He respected Catholicism and the church mentioned him a few times but Hitler actually believed in some weird voodoo anti-semetic shit that never really made any sense.
MagatsutheCalamity 3 weeks ago
He's not wrong, but most of Maher's statements here appear to be taken wholesale from Christopher Hitchens.
Also, his audiences are more in his pocket every week.
grands1am 6 months ago
These stupid KKKristian fundamentalists always pull out that shit of "atheist war crimes". That argument was destroyed over and over and over and they keep coming with it. It's pretty clear is all they got.
ricardofuego 6 months ago
This discussion is like debating which is the prettiest pile of shit.
rollsthepaul 6 months ago
@rollsthepaul AMEN!
offroadexpeditions 6 months ago
Killing for Jesus. In this world, who would doubt this.
rollsthepaul 6 months ago
If I had to be sentenced to death and had to pick the group that decides to kill me, I would pick a dictatorship over religious fanatics. At least in the first scenario they will see me as an enemy of the state, of a drain on resources. Religious fanatics would kill me because their god "told" them, and that is just a slap in the face.
vmorgun 6 months ago
@vmorgun HAHA. and in the dictatorship you most surely have atleast a chance of becoming usefull to society and escaping your fate. nope not in religion.
LCXXXSR 6 months ago