@MrRootbrian look whos talking. you only take a 2 hour break. every 5 minutes theres a new video of yours with some weird dangerous stuff involving animal abuse and breaking glass bottles
In other words, STAY STRONG!! YOU ARE A POWERFUL WOMAN!! You shouldn't have to get suckered in by paying and wasting money on courses that don't do much of anything at all.
Oh and the part of the guy you described saying he gets paid $50/hour, that is a LIE. They almost tried to get ME in there once. I'm now classified as an SP because I talked to a protestor outside.
Rooty, Co$ only brainwash people who have wealth and are not crippled like you. you are a welfare leeching scum that deserves to burn in a housefire. Also, stop pretending to be like Anon, because the only reason Anon didnt raid you is because you provide so much lulz that can make anyone lol for 50 years
Also, I read your description, for a better understanding about anonymous, I'll tell you here. They are a collection of individuals fighting for a cause, all of them are volunteer and aren't hired by anybody. They have no leader. If anybody claims they have a leader, that person is wrong.
So seeing your NOT returning to the "church", then you should consider yourself an Ex. You found the common sense to back away and THAT is the best steps to take. Tell people to just stay away and avoid it. Save their money and their friends/family from the risks of disconnection when they "level up".
So seeing your NOT returning to the "church", then you should consider yourself an Ex. You found the common sense to back away and THAT is the best steps to take. Tell people to just stay away and avoid it. Save their money and their friends/family from the risks of disconnection when they "level up".
So glad you were able to think things through for yourself, and decide what was best. Scientology makes it hard to think critical thoughts, and that can't be good! Stay out, stay healthy and have a great life, girl!
In one respect, you are near average. 60% of people who get duped into signing up for a course at Scientology, do not continue past that one course. In another way, you are one in a million, for your honesty, and telling your story like this.
The 60% : They know some key important things about it beforehand. (Not so much you.) Too smart. Sense something is off about one or more aspects of the whole deal Not depressed or vulnerable enough. You'd fit all those three. Read BARE-FACED MESSIAH.
Like all sales, it's a numbers game. Get as many as possible.
Then they take that money and use it to hurt people like us on the outside who have nothing to do with $cientology, as well as people who would "dare" to speak their mind about their experiences from the inside of the beast.
So glad negative stories have gone around about Co$. Less people are joining now. Did you know that according to Jason Beghe, the actor (and OT 5!!) more people have left the cult than ALL that are in it now? Gee, wonder why?...
this is fine and everything but she's neutral and proving scientology wants money has been done and doesn't change anything. If you'll all support her so much for this , support aaron gottfried who can make a difference. i heard his book is crazy
if you all want to see where scientology might have come from...watch "The destruction of Atlantis" by Michael Tsarion...it is really interesting...and will make you think...if you want to think abstractically......
this is fine and everything but she's neutral and proving scientology wants money has been done and doesn't change anything. If you'll all support her so much for this , support aaron gottfried who can make a difference. i heard his book is crazy
i may not have had any scientology expiriences, but christianity (which i was brought by) asks for similar things that scientology does...christianity asks for blind acceptance, and belief...scientology asks for lind accpetance and your money...but christianity makes you feel bad if you dont give money when the collection plate is passed around...not sure if this makes sense...
the only thing i dislike about any religion is the blindness that the believers have to what is REALLY there...the links between the different religions...
I know that christianity doesnt wait until people donate large amounts of money before telling you anything, but what I have noticed about christians is that they do give money to the church that is 'voluntary' and adds up to large amounts...my parents are christians...i know!!!
then you also know it's completely voluntary AND taht the basic of Christianity state, do onto others as you would want done to you... don't cast judegment... and forgive ppl as you would want to be forgiven... not bad rules to live by.. just because O Relgion f's that up doesn't make it the same as Co$.. a obvious pryamid type business structure...
OR believe a giant explosion of everything ... time and space included.. came from nothingness!!?!? Very logical indeed.. no leap of faith required to believe that either huh..
Hypocrisy.. they name is the "REALIST" who just uses that description to mask his narcissim and self central idea that HE is the center of the universe to which all things revolve...
I am not harshing your POV just the argument you two choose.. I am officially a YT douche for this but wtf is the internet for if not complaining and arguing and bitching with ppl you've never met.. amirite???
one more thing! got out years ago and haven't had the supposed "ruin" they said I'd have without them and their "Technology"! Had i'd stayed I'd been broke and not as successful.
Creepy. At end of each class, the "teacher" would end by pointing to large portrait of Hubbard on wall and said "give Ron a hand". everybody would stand up and applaude wildly. I didn't stand or clap and the teacher and assistant as well as some students would glare at me. Creepy. The true believers are zombie creeps! Keep sane and stay away!
Creepy. Meanwhile pressuring me to sign up for more and buy books, etc. When I'd decline- they'd turn on the pressure and ask probing questions. The registration lady who was nice at first started to get under my skin - she had found out my credit union and called them without my permission to ask them their loan rates. All in the name of trying to "help" me; just trying to get me to fork over money.
I had signed up for intro course and the people were super friendly and sincere. signed up for another and that was mixed - some good things some B.S. when i questioned the stuff i didn't agree with - they treated me like something wrong with me.
Scientology is a dangerous cult, and its not just my opinion that thinks this way. DO NOT be persuaded into this dangerous cult. Do not accept a 'tour' or w/e they call it. They use any technique or trap to force you into signing up and taking every cent you own. Once you give in and they get their claws into you, then they have you forever.
Scientologist's exploit you, they tell you first that your 'suicidal' or 'on the verge of breaking down' etc. etc. They create the illusion that you NEED Scientology. Everyone has problems, everyone experiences stress. Scientologist's feed off of this and take advantage of this. If Scientology works for you, then fine, good for you. But it doesn't necessarily mean its going to work for everyone.
this is fine and everything but she's neutral and proving scientology wants money has been done and doesn't change anything. If you'll all support her so much for this , support aaron gottfried who can make a difference. i heard his book is crazy
Glad you have been able to choose to stop, from a lot of evidence around the web you have just had a lucky escape. If you found the course materials useful remember that you can always carry on in the freezone - the web says they can teach all the stuff that Scientology charges for. So you dont have to be in a zombie cult to get the training.
how many of your real friends ask you what your interest rate is on your CC? has anybody but a financial advisor ever asked you for a reason other than wondering what you would borrow against? ummmmm.
Thanks for the video, and thanks for the candid impressions of how things went. Unfortunately I didn't get to see your original videos, but if things wound up changing that much on you in such a short span of time, then it definitely sounds like getting out was right for you and I'm glad you did so before you got sucked too far in :)
This video give a perfect example of how Scientology coerces and attempts to brainwash people into thinking they are inadequate and need to change. Scientology just wants your money as this testimony shows. Jackelyn, thanks for coming forward with this. Those of us who have lost friends to the cult do appreciate it... we know what you're going through. All the best to you and yours ~~~ Dead End
KAJA BALLO commited suicide when she was told that she needed scientology of she wouldnt be able to cope with life. Just one victim of the hard sell technique
She is right. People who hide their secrets, or the secrets in their religion and sell if for a price which celebs can afford NO PROBLEM, should be suspect. They don't jack the price up for the Rich. But the price for the middle class or lower is very high. If the Ratio was applied to the Rich and the Celebs, you would see virtually zero members from that crowd.
I don'r care whether you are from Anonymous or the moon, you made an important observation that needed to be shared. You're a very wise girl 18 year old girl who explained what many of us former members went through but lacked the insight or courage to not be bamboozled. Many people will benefit from your story . Your video has averaged 658 plays a day so far. Count it as what I suspect will be one of many successes in your life. ~ Mary McConnell
Awesome thanks for telling us your experience. 1. One of my friends died poor after losing his house to meet payments for the courses in Australia. 2.He left me his scientology books when he passed away and what I read did shock me! Very sinister behind the scenes. 3. Lived with 2 Scientologiest. Strange thing was one of them was asking me to help him do some of the exercises that where in the manuals. Both could not really talk a normal down to earth conversation much like Tom Cruise.
Prove it HERE or shut the fuck up. No one is going to start PM'ing a $cientology troll.
Your smear campaign isn't working this time, is it? Do you think just because a person is young they're going to automatically believe the bullshit? I guess this girl didn't "die" because she didn't take your courses, eh?
She should have kept atleast 1 video just to show the comparison of behavior before and after leaving. And its not almost a form of hypnosis, it is a form of hypnosis. Congrats on your awakening and the best of luck for your future endeavors.
Good on you for being strong willed and sticking to your guns! Keep the sense of knowing who you are, and not being pressured by anyone to do anything you do not want to do!
So, this is why you joined scientology, is it? But of course, in scientology , youre ordained to lie, because youre to "never be afraid to hurt anyone in a just cause". It must really get under your skin, and really mess up your 'case'(in actuality, youre just an extension of ron's own 'case') that more and more people are waking up to the mind-rape scientology/dianetics administers to its adherents. If anyone wants to see some cold hard facts about hubbard, only need to Google "Ronthenut".
This message is directed to you, you lying scientologist ANONYMOUSisFAIL
Dont worry, all those nasty SP's out in the world will welcome you back to reality with an open heart and opened arms, when you arrive at the actual EP of scientology/dianetics
Sorry silly $cilon, you won't be able to smear this young woman, it's obvious she's telling the absolute truth about your bloodsucking criminal organization.
This video is now all over the web and I'm guessing it's going to resonate with any young person who sees it.
Youre just know arriving to the atcual EP (end phenomenon) of dianetics and scientology. Now you really uinderstand what it is meant to "confront" in the real world..
Since you mentioned how some guy was trying to align you with the supposed suicide of a girl "similar" to you, Google " Kaja Ballo" or "Police probe suicide linked to Scientologists". If you are to know 1 thing about scientology/dianetics, it would be that they arent what you think and are worse than anyone can imagine.
Congratulations on standing up for yourself! What you experienced was essentially a high-pressure sales push. Standard car sales for instance... "2nd Voice" = if you feel like your losing the customer, call in someone else to talk to them. Then repeat this process up the chain-of-command until the customer gives-in. And... "Show the cutomer why they NEED the product RIGHT NOW. If the dont have a need then create one."
u have to know they dont care about your objections its all for the greater good of thier bank acount or use u for all ur worth that was the stated purpose of managment!
Thank you, I admire your intelligence. It takes a strong mind to escape the jaws of the cults manipulation and brainwashing.
But please, do be careful. Scientologists have a policy that anyone who speaks against them is "fair game" and people are known to have been blackmailed, stalked, and held against their will.
So you're stalking this girl? That is so incredibly fucking creepy. Also there's no "members" you little dimwitted weirdo, and there sure as fuck isn't any "putting her up to this". You just hate the fact that Anonymous is helping to put ethics back in, they're helping and you can't stand that fact because you're a creep.
But I am very glad you saw the light and broke free of their chains early. You did a good thing speaking about it and as seen in the comments you have gotten some attention from them.
I would like to wish you good luck and to remain safe from this cult. They will try to harass you with their crap but do not cave in, they try to do it to me through messages LOL.
*Clap Clap Clap Clap* I applaud you xemutv. The belief system of Scientology has some good points, but the real problem is the money hungry CO$. CO$ is simply put a money hungry cult. In other words its a sect of the belief system. Free Zoners would be the real religion. xemutv are you part of the Free Zone? Most critics are against CO$ and their policy towards members and anyone not part of them. But xemutv you still direct people towards CO$ why? You can direct to literature in library's.
True enough its easy to get defensive when you think people are attacking your belief system. When a person is in a defensive position its hard to sway position or have an open mind. This hinders the learning curve a bit especially when people are attacking individuals and not the core of the issue.
Thank you xemutv for opening up on this topic I know it can be hard since some people are still attacking individuals. This happens on all sides of any argument and tends to be counter productive.
I still have to question in the past you have defended the bad actions from CO$ but why? I'm seeing you turn around and your information on your channel has changed a bit to more of a neutral role. Even more to the point I gave your comment a thumbs up. Your videos might need some redoing to become more creditable though. Most of your stats and information is from CCHR on drug issues and as just about everyone knows those are skewed quite a bit after fact checking.
To be fully neutral post videos on both sides condemning the individuals that did the crimes on each side of the argument. So far your videos generalize the actions of the few anons to the actions of all of anons. This is an obvious bias shown to one side. Also more to the point you need videos pointing out the changes the CO$ needs to make to better themselves and point out the crimes that individuals have done. Now you can point out rules of a group that might affect all.
Nice to see xemutv taking a step in the right direction. It's a pity he can't see the pitfalls of the teachings themselves, and maybe even wake up, but one step at a time I suppose. The most important thing at this very early stage is to get the undeniably abusive management out of the CoS and into prison uniform. Next, a complete reform the way the church reacts to its critics is required.
Jackelyn LRH stole the techniques in part from "Abreaction therapy" developed by Freud & studied & DISCARDED by psychiatrist Dr. Carl Jung because "not a few 'traumata' (plural of trauma) were inventions of fantasy and had never happened at all." You can Wiki "Abreaction" for more info.
Def.:
Abreaction is a psychoanalytical term for reliving an experience in order to purge it of its emotional excesses; a type of catharsis. ...it is a method of becoming conscious of repressed traumatic events.
Once you accept that one can have prenatal recalls and memories, the next thing you know, perhaps months or years later, you find yourself in a $cn session discussing how you were a prince in a kingdom much like a medieval one where you were thrown in a dungeon and the King (your father) slewed (assassinated) by the evil suppressive Count Xenile [could be spelled Xemile] and it all happened 150 million yrs ago on planet Roo of the Constellation Ron-Faeces and down the rabbit hole of $cn, Amen!
As you walk, you notice that some of the beasts use different tactics to lure unsuspecting people into their cells. One modern very clever beast has decorated the entrance of its cell with vacant-eyed movie stars and minor celebrities and another has decorated its cell with snapshots of happy families and wholesome activities.
Hi....great decision you've made to not go back....You're right about everything but this is only beginning of the horrible things they do & that is happening. I was involved for 25 years & it's a nightmare. By the way....don't ignore Tory, I have known her for 30 years & she's the best, she knows what she's talking about & is always there to talk to. You're right about all you've said....
I really think there is no hope for vaLLarrr. Shes delusional and has serious mental problems. Well, maybe psychiatric help.. but you know how scared they are of that!! LOL :D
I have the perfect solution for vaLLarrr: Electro shock therapy treatment. <== Wipe her whole memory (especially the $cn indoctrination) and START AGAIN! lol Clean slate! :)
Wow the scilons really hate this video don't they, look at the bile and fury they have about it.... anyway I just wanted to comment on the whole finger clicking and counting stuff to bring people back to "present time" she mentioned, it seems to me that this is more about stopping internal thought processes in others so they don't have time to wake up and smell the coffee, I found that part of the video very interesting.
"Wow the scilons really hate this video don't they, look at the bile and fury they have about it...."
They are infuriated by this video. It is very simple, straightforward and honest. And backs up everything critics have said about the high pressure sales tactics and threats. Bet they thought they could suck this young woman into their madness. They could not have been more mistaken.
Wow the scilons really hate this video don't they, look at the bile and fury they have about it....
They are furious. They can't successfully smear this brave young woman because she is so obviously telling the truth. And what she says backs up what critics have said for years: $cientology uses high pressure sales techniques and threats to try and suck young people into their madness.
Very smart gal, she escaped this duplicitous cult by the skin of her teeth.
"$cientology uses high pressure sales techniques and threats to try and suck young people..."
They call it "Hard $ell" and they use "scare tactics," fear and intimidation. And they suck a few...at least for a while. Must remember $cn has a high turnover ratio. Most don't buy into it from the start; many leave immediately and the rest leave at some point during their "stay." Only a very few remain truly dedicated - the ones who bought into all the indoctrination. But they ALL leave, eventually.
You have done really well to escape. You sound like you have really good personal boundaries - your decision not to sign up for anything that day, and STICKING to it under great pressure was such a great decision.
BTW, the "Ups and Downs" course is the one Scientology uses to cut people off from everyone who is critical of Scientology. They label them suppressive and blame all of life's ills (including sickness and accidents) on the energy of the supposedly suppressive person. It's dangerous
In other words, the person who was trying to hard sell you the course was doing all they could to set you up so that the next thing you learned was how to destroy your closest friends, how to blame them for any problems in your life (as SPs), and then how to completely and forever shut them out of your life so that you can concentrate on what's REALLY important, which is "getting across the Bridge (to total nowhere)" and "make money, make more money, make other people make money for you."
You are a very brave and courageous young lady to come out and state that you were wrong. Also, it shows that you had not yet gotten deep enough into the cult to stop thinking for yourself. I hope you continue to be brave and strong in the face of the attacks from the cult. Also, I saw the cult spokesclam state on national TV that there are no aliens in the CO$. So is VAL lying about all the aliens heshe learned about? I'm confused.
Great video- you clearly have enough self awareness and wisdom to be so much more than anything the cult would try to make you.
Your intuition is strong enough to tell you who is REALLY trying to suppress you- always listen to your intuition and anyone who is aiming to override it is not to be trusted.
Also- read Steve Hassan's "combatting cult mind control" - it is extremely enlightening.
$cientology is a faith trading boiler room; it's no different from the arsehole selling you Enron stock and railing about it's staggering growth in the market when really the stock is worthless! Jason Beghe said it best, 'scientology is the perfect theta-trap' it's only worth something because you make it so in your own mind!
I know a lot you don't roby. I know $cientology is a big fat global scam. I know your "church" has more in common with the Mafia than "religion". I know your messiah Hubbard was a total fraud and batshit crazy. And I know this video is enturbulating the hell out of you.
LOL, when Jacky gets back on here, she's gonna be like WTF?!?!?
1600+ views, 100+ five stars, 441 comments and, oh yeah, craziness all over. ^^ All in one day. Hopefully, this will encourage her to make more vids about her experiences.
Anything she signed is bullshit. If they try to pull that on you, get a real lawyer (or check with Graham Berry if you can't) and they can get it nullified because it was either signed under duress or is complete bullshit and unenforceable. Some of the clauses are actually illegal, especially parts that deny you wages for work done.
"That which is real to you is real, and Scientology is that which is real to you; and if its not real to you sit it on the back burner {pause} ...it'll boil over sooner or later {laughter}"
That's what Scientoplogy fundamentally is CHATTER!
Hah, see the funny part is Hubbard "gives permission" for people to believe in what's real for them, actually tells them what they believe is real is real, THEN tells them SCIENTOLOGY IS WHAT IS REAL FOR YOU! Fucking yeah right, free will and free choice, individualism limited ONLY by the box that is $ciontololligy. More scary is the fact that thinking this over any long period of time can easily convince someone the "Wog" world is just an illusion and you can do whatever the fuck you want to.
I loved it when Jason Beghe said in that Aussie news show that the higher one went up the OT levels the worse one got. And I bet he doesn't have the data on auditing creating delusional psychosis, as discovered by Dr. Carl Jung nearly three quarters of a century ago and the reason he discarded this "therapy." :)
"...not a few traumata were simply inventions of fantasy and had never happened at all"
you are so fucking sued little girl!!!!!
Nobody talks about "the supreme ...rulah" like that!
So damned SUED
kanton1975 2 months ago
RootBrian is a mentally unstable pedophile; you should be cautious around him.
notyouagain1 1 year ago
I sense much fail these looneys spread about me, worry not, they have no lives except the internet. Don't believe them.
MrRootbrian 1 year ago
@MrRootbrian look whos talking. you only take a 2 hour break. every 5 minutes theres a new video of yours with some weird dangerous stuff involving animal abuse and breaking glass bottles
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In other words, STAY STRONG!! YOU ARE A POWERFUL WOMAN!! You shouldn't have to get suckered in by paying and wasting money on courses that don't do much of anything at all.
Oh and the part of the guy you described saying he gets paid $50/hour, that is a LIE. They almost tried to get ME in there once. I'm now classified as an SP because I talked to a protestor outside.
MrRootbrian 1 year ago
Rooty, Co$ only brainwash people who have wealth and are not crippled like you. you are a welfare leeching scum that deserves to burn in a housefire. Also, stop pretending to be like Anon, because the only reason Anon didnt raid you is because you provide so much lulz that can make anyone lol for 50 years
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Also, I read your description, for a better understanding about anonymous, I'll tell you here. They are a collection of individuals fighting for a cause, all of them are volunteer and aren't hired by anybody. They have no leader. If anybody claims they have a leader, that person is wrong.
MrRootbrian 1 year ago
@MrRootbrian Sub rootfag. You're not anonymous. Stop stlaking liitle boys rootfag!
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So seeing your NOT returning to the "church", then you should consider yourself an Ex. You found the common sense to back away and THAT is the best steps to take. Tell people to just stay away and avoid it. Save their money and their friends/family from the risks of disconnection when they "level up".
MrRootbrian 1 year ago
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So seeing your NOT returning to the "church", then you should consider yourself an Ex. You found the common sense to back away and THAT is the best steps to take. Tell people to just stay away and avoid it. Save their money and their friends/family from the risks of disconnection when they "level up".
MrRootbrian 1 year ago
Good job figuring out a money grubbing cult if interested in money...
anonpurple 2 years ago 3
So glad you were able to think things through for yourself, and decide what was best. Scientology makes it hard to think critical thoughts, and that can't be good! Stay out, stay healthy and have a great life, girl!
doobedoo22 2 years ago 4
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Great, honest video!
Have you had any more contact or harassment from Scientologists lately? Once you get on their mailing or call lists, it's hard to get off.
These days especially, the "church" of Scientology is pushing its members hard for money since so many have wised up and left like yourself.
NarkAnon 2 years ago 6
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NarkAnon 2 years ago
No surprise... scientology's an evil cult...
screech519 2 years ago 7
In one respect, you are near average. 60% of people who get duped into signing up for a course at Scientology, do not continue past that one course. In another way, you are one in a million, for your honesty, and telling your story like this.
The 60% : They know some key important things about it beforehand. (Not so much you.) Too smart. Sense something is off about one or more aspects of the whole deal Not depressed or vulnerable enough. You'd fit all those three. Read BARE-FACED MESSIAH.
TellyBumsquat 2 years ago 6
Like all sales, it's a numbers game. Get as many as possible.
Then they take that money and use it to hurt people like us on the outside who have nothing to do with $cientology, as well as people who would "dare" to speak their mind about their experiences from the inside of the beast.
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ANON9000000 2 years ago 6
So glad negative stories have gone around about Co$. Less people are joining now. Did you know that according to Jason Beghe, the actor (and OT 5!!) more people have left the cult than ALL that are in it now? Gee, wonder why?...
supermandan85 2 years ago 15
this is fine and everything but she's neutral and proving scientology wants money has been done and doesn't change anything. If you'll all support her so much for this , support aaron gottfried who can make a difference. i heard his book is crazy
blueberrygirl10 2 years ago
if you all want to see where scientology might have come from...watch "The destruction of Atlantis" by Michael Tsarion...it is really interesting...and will make you think...if you want to think abstractically......
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
Ugleh. Verr ugleh.
lex7zero7 2 years ago
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AlphaDragonOmega 2 years ago
Excellent Post! Very Well done A+
AlphaDragonOmega 2 years ago
have you crashed to earth in a spaceship?
djdcrazy 2 years ago
this is fine and everything but she's neutral and proving scientology wants money has been done and doesn't change anything. If you'll all support her so much for this , support aaron gottfried who can make a difference. i heard his book is crazy
blueberrygirl10 2 years ago
i may not have had any scientology expiriences, but christianity (which i was brought by) asks for similar things that scientology does...christianity asks for blind acceptance, and belief...scientology asks for lind accpetance and your money...but christianity makes you feel bad if you dont give money when the collection plate is passed around...not sure if this makes sense...
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
yeah i used to be a catholic, why does god need money? srsly
jesse6669 2 years ago
well...its not god that needs the money, its the 'church'
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
why does a belief need to be fueled by money tho,aren't people supposed to be convinced into a religion simply when they hear its beliefs and morals?
jesse6669 2 years ago
a religion needs money to servive in the modern world where everything is about money...i think
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
it sucks but that is pretty true
jesse6669 2 years ago
This discussion between you two is retarded...
"WHY DOES GOD NEED MONEY"
wow... talk about a simplified smug argument.. unworthy of rebuttal... lol... obv teenagers are obv.
thelonius2000 2 years ago
how is our discussion retarded???
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
"why does god need money"??
cmon...
O religions rely on donations to pay bills
Co$ charges for services.. it's really not comparable..
IF christianity waited until you donated 10,000$ to tell you about Jesus and the Virgin birth story it'd be the same..
dislike O religion all you want BUT to simplistically compare the legit religions to Co$ is a joke...
thelonius2000 2 years ago
the only thing i dislike about any religion is the blindness that the believers have to what is REALLY there...the links between the different religions...
I know that christianity doesnt wait until people donate large amounts of money before telling you anything, but what I have noticed about christians is that they do give money to the church that is 'voluntary' and adds up to large amounts...my parents are christians...i know!!!
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
then you also know it's completely voluntary AND taht the basic of Christianity state, do onto others as you would want done to you... don't cast judegment... and forgive ppl as you would want to be forgiven... not bad rules to live by.. just because O Relgion f's that up doesn't make it the same as Co$.. a obvious pryamid type business structure...
thelonius2000 2 years ago
I have lived by those rules that you are talking about...because i didnt know better...i didnt know anything about what there is in the world...
i wasnt saying that Co$ was the same as christianity, all i was saying was that there are LITTLE aspects that are SIMILAR, not the same...
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
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Scientology is no more ridiculous than any other religion. Pick an invisible god (or many) and shut the hell up. XD
waywardwatchdog1 2 years ago
OR believe a giant explosion of everything ... time and space included.. came from nothingness!!?!? Very logical indeed.. no leap of faith required to believe that either huh..
Hypocrisy.. they name is the "REALIST" who just uses that description to mask his narcissim and self central idea that HE is the center of the universe to which all things revolve...
GTFO
thelonius2000 2 years ago
btw...i believe in creationism...BUT...i also believe in evolution....which was helped along by a 'higher being'
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
I am not harshing your POV just the argument you two choose.. I am officially a YT douche for this but wtf is the internet for if not complaining and arguing and bitching with ppl you've never met.. amirite???
no worries.
thelonius2000 2 years ago
well...this discussion has been interesting...
the0siren0of0night 2 years ago
one more thing! got out years ago and haven't had the supposed "ruin" they said I'd have without them and their "Technology"! Had i'd stayed I'd been broke and not as successful.
ralph432156 2 years ago 7
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Creepy. At end of each class, the "teacher" would end by pointing to large portrait of Hubbard on wall and said "give Ron a hand". everybody would stand up and applaude wildly. I didn't stand or clap and the teacher and assistant as well as some students would glare at me. Creepy. The true believers are zombie creeps! Keep sane and stay away!
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Creepy. Meanwhile pressuring me to sign up for more and buy books, etc. When I'd decline- they'd turn on the pressure and ask probing questions. The registration lady who was nice at first started to get under my skin - she had found out my credit union and called them without my permission to ask them their loan rates. All in the name of trying to "help" me; just trying to get me to fork over money.
ralph432156 2 years ago 6
I had signed up for intro course and the people were super friendly and sincere. signed up for another and that was mixed - some good things some B.S. when i questioned the stuff i didn't agree with - they treated me like something wrong with me.
ralph432156 2 years ago 7
Scientology is a dangerous cult, and its not just my opinion that thinks this way. DO NOT be persuaded into this dangerous cult. Do not accept a 'tour' or w/e they call it. They use any technique or trap to force you into signing up and taking every cent you own. Once you give in and they get their claws into you, then they have you forever.
Attadogga 2 years ago 7
Scientologist's exploit you, they tell you first that your 'suicidal' or 'on the verge of breaking down' etc. etc. They create the illusion that you NEED Scientology. Everyone has problems, everyone experiences stress. Scientologist's feed off of this and take advantage of this. If Scientology works for you, then fine, good for you. But it doesn't necessarily mean its going to work for everyone.
Attadogga 2 years ago 7
this is fine and everything but she's neutral and proving scientology wants money has been done and doesn't change anything. If you'll all support her so much for this , support aaron gottfried who can make a difference. i heard his book is crazy
blueberrygirl10 2 years ago 6
"They're all about money" - you got it!
LRonScarface 2 years ago 5
You got gigantic metaphorical balls sweety.. good on ya.. You realize you're officially a SP with this vid.. feels good don't it
thelonius2000 2 years ago
It takes someone with a strong sense of will to break free from the network lies, deception and blackmail $cientology emposes on its members.
ANON9000000 2 years ago
Glad you have been able to choose to stop, from a lot of evidence around the web you have just had a lucky escape. If you found the course materials useful remember that you can always carry on in the freezone - the web says they can teach all the stuff that Scientology charges for. So you dont have to be in a zombie cult to get the training.
coastwalker 2 years ago
you're too pretty to be in Scientology. Ignore the fear/pressure tactics of this cult. They invade and destroy peoples lives.
RMPalm2000 2 years ago 3
that doesn't make sense, too pretty. Lots of good looking people have been in, thats not the reason not to be haha
yaman102001 2 years ago
Anonymous does not pay for rants. Scientology seems to, though.
Anon0108 2 years ago 2
I applaud your discerning eye and your escape from the undertow. Subscribed!
allmuppetcaligula 2 years ago 2
how many of your real friends ask you what your interest rate is on your CC? has anybody but a financial advisor ever asked you for a reason other than wondering what you would borrow against? ummmmm.
TrooperCX 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the video, and thanks for the candid impressions of how things went. Unfortunately I didn't get to see your original videos, but if things wound up changing that much on you in such a short span of time, then it definitely sounds like getting out was right for you and I'm glad you did so before you got sucked too far in :)
DarkAngelGuyver 2 years ago 4
$cientology is all about the money.
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 6
thank you for sharing!
mazack00 2 years ago 5
Black-ball $cientology!
Sever communication and spiral them into down stat mode!
Speaker4Truth 2 years ago 2
This video give a perfect example of how Scientology coerces and attempts to brainwash people into thinking they are inadequate and need to change. Scientology just wants your money as this testimony shows. Jackelyn, thanks for coming forward with this. Those of us who have lost friends to the cult do appreciate it... we know what you're going through. All the best to you and yours ~~~ Dead End
DeadEnd39 2 years ago 6
You are a smart and strong woman. Hopefully an inspiration to those trying to leave that corrupt cult.
CommanderDESU 2 years ago 7
I am proud of this young Lady! She caught on quickly!
klidov 2 years ago 6
KAJA BALLO commited suicide when she was told that she needed scientology of she wouldnt be able to cope with life. Just one victim of the hard sell technique
watch?v=6h153IjELK8
NicNasty1981 2 years ago 4
She is right. People who hide their secrets, or the secrets in their religion and sell if for a price which celebs can afford NO PROBLEM, should be suspect. They don't jack the price up for the Rich. But the price for the middle class or lower is very high. If the Ratio was applied to the Rich and the Celebs, you would see virtually zero members from that crowd.
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listen up peeps!
this guy is a $cientology member. They put him up to this so he wouldn't get RPF'd
What a faggot
AnonSwitch13 2 years ago
good for you. you made a very wise choice to leave, and you thought for yourself and realised the red flags as the came up.
totsmarkopolis 2 years ago 2
I don'r care whether you are from Anonymous or the moon, you made an important observation that needed to be shared. You're a very wise girl 18 year old girl who explained what many of us former members went through but lacked the insight or courage to not be bamboozled. Many people will benefit from your story . Your video has averaged 658 plays a day so far. Count it as what I suspect will be one of many successes in your life. ~ Mary McConnell
4Christ4ever 2 years ago 5
Awesome thanks for telling us your experience. 1. One of my friends died poor after losing his house to meet payments for the courses in Australia. 2.He left me his scientology books when he passed away and what I read did shock me! Very sinister behind the scenes. 3. Lived with 2 Scientologiest. Strange thing was one of them was asking me to help him do some of the exercises that where in the manuals. Both could not really talk a normal down to earth conversation much like Tom Cruise.
openair100 2 years ago 4
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TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 2 years ago
She could have been put up by big bird I dont care doesnt make her any less right.
newdad1107 2 years ago 2
So what? LOL.
ScarranHalfBreed 2 years ago
this girl is an Anonymous member
Prove it HERE or shut the fuck up. No one is going to start PM'ing a $cientology troll.
Your smear campaign isn't working this time, is it? Do you think just because a person is young they're going to automatically believe the bullshit? I guess this girl didn't "die" because she didn't take your courses, eh?
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 2 years ago
She should have kept atleast 1 video just to show the comparison of behavior before and after leaving. And its not almost a form of hypnosis, it is a form of hypnosis. Congrats on your awakening and the best of luck for your future endeavors.
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 2 years ago
Good on you for being strong willed and sticking to your guns! Keep the sense of knowing who you are, and not being pressured by anyone to do anything you do not want to do!
Be safe and God Bless!
Anonymouschick2 3 years ago 4
keep fighting the good fight cutie
SPGoblivion 3 years ago
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 2 years ago
Scientology is all about money?
Sincerely,
Water is Wet & The Sun is Hot
ElGreatHambino 3 years ago
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oh look! it's the New Tory Magoo!
what a crock of shit. They did not ask for your credit card you liar.
listen up peeps!
this girl is an Anonymous member. They put her up to this. I have proof that she attended several protests.
pvt me for details.
ANONYMOUSisFAIL 3 years ago
So, this is why you joined scientology, is it? But of course, in scientology , youre ordained to lie, because youre to "never be afraid to hurt anyone in a just cause". It must really get under your skin, and really mess up your 'case'(in actuality, youre just an extension of ron's own 'case') that more and more people are waking up to the mind-rape scientology/dianetics administers to its adherents. If anyone wants to see some cold hard facts about hubbard, only need to Google "Ronthenut".
Tub3dYou 3 years ago 3
This message is directed to you, you lying scientologist ANONYMOUSisFAIL
Dont worry, all those nasty SP's out in the world will welcome you back to reality with an open heart and opened arms, when you arrive at the actual EP of scientology/dianetics
WE LOVE YOU!!
Where is love on the scientology 'tone scale'?
Tub3dYou 3 years ago 2
PM you for details? Now that is worthy of an LOL!
Sorry silly $cilon, you won't be able to smear this young woman, it's obvious she's telling the absolute truth about your bloodsucking criminal organization.
This video is now all over the web and I'm guessing it's going to resonate with any young person who sees it.
watch
it
and
weep!!
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this guy is a $cientology member. They put him up to this so he wouldn't get RPF'd
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AnonSwitch13 2 years ago
And yet you're using an alias and she's put up her name. How precisely would you define 'anonymous'?
slacknhash 2 years ago
Youre just know arriving to the atcual EP (end phenomenon) of dianetics and scientology. Now you really uinderstand what it is meant to "confront" in the real world..
Since you mentioned how some guy was trying to align you with the supposed suicide of a girl "similar" to you, Google " Kaja Ballo" or "Police probe suicide linked to Scientologists". If you are to know 1 thing about scientology/dianetics, it would be that they arent what you think and are worse than anyone can imagine.
Tub3dYou 3 years ago 4
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 3 years ago
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AnonSwitch13 2 years ago
shut the fuck up
SPGoblivion 2 years ago
Congratulations on standing up for yourself! What you experienced was essentially a high-pressure sales push. Standard car sales for instance... "2nd Voice" = if you feel like your losing the customer, call in someone else to talk to them. Then repeat this process up the chain-of-command until the customer gives-in. And... "Show the cutomer why they NEED the product RIGHT NOW. If the dont have a need then create one."
Good on ya :)
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 3 years ago
u have to know they dont care about your objections its all for the greater good of thier bank acount or use u for all ur worth that was the stated purpose of managment!
cherkas009 3 years ago 2
Down stat for Scientology!
YAY!
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago 4
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black-balling (adj)
Severing communication; figurative term (the 8 ball - being black - is the last ball you sink before the game is over).
To date causing the Scientology website to go down is the largest black-balling ever to be orchestrated by anonymous.
I aim that all users will sever communication with $cino users so as to deny them what they want most, aknowledgment!
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago
Scientology is like that scene in the Simpsons when Homer wants to check out the high-tech gadgets store.
Homer (who's Scientology in this metaphor): You love high tech gadgets Marge
Marge (the real world): No I don't
Homer: [grabs Marge's arm]
Marge: Homer you're hurting me
Homer: No I'm not!
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago 3
congrats ;)
abluishrose 3 years ago 3
Gratz on seeing the truth. Welcome back to the real world.
anonymous1312 3 years ago 8
Thank you, I admire your intelligence. It takes a strong mind to escape the jaws of the cults manipulation and brainwashing.
But please, do be careful. Scientologists have a policy that anyone who speaks against them is "fair game" and people are known to have been blackmailed, stalked, and held against their will.
RememberVee 3 years ago 9
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God bless you, and well done. My Wife and i are fighting to get our daughter out of this CULT, she is the image of you.
TAKE CARE Tony and Sue (manchester UK)
getbeckyout 3 years ago 6
I feel so sorry for you. No doubt they will call you suppressive persons and try to get her to join the sea org. You must act now!! :-(
AlmostShaoKahn 3 years ago 2
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ANONYMOUSisFAIL 3 years ago
So you're stalking this girl? That is so incredibly fucking creepy. Also there's no "members" you little dimwitted weirdo, and there sure as fuck isn't any "putting her up to this". You just hate the fact that Anonymous is helping to put ethics back in, they're helping and you can't stand that fact because you're a creep.
DoctorTDurden 3 years ago 3
God bless you, and well done. My Wife and i are fighting to get our daughter out of this CULT, she is the image of you.
Tke are Tony and Sue (manchester UK)
getbeckyout 3 years ago 5
"God bless you, and well done. My Wife and i are fighting to get our daughter out of this CULT, she is the image of you."
I'm so sorry to hear that your daughter fell victim to $cientology. Good luck to you and your wife.
cultssuck 3 years ago 3
Jackelyn,
If you're ever tempted to again step into a $cientology building, go to GetBeckyOut's YT channel and watch their vids.
These are absolutely heartbreaking and articulate testimonials to the evil that is this cult.
I once again congratulate you on your courage and good sense.
Djangeaux 3 years ago 5
But I am very glad you saw the light and broke free of their chains early. You did a good thing speaking about it and as seen in the comments you have gotten some attention from them.
I would like to wish you good luck and to remain safe from this cult. They will try to harass you with their crap but do not cave in, they try to do it to me through messages LOL.
Take care.
- BoombaGoomba
BoombaGoomba 3 years ago
Wow this video must have been REALLY damaging to Scientology to have a special visit from VaLLarrr.
BoombaGoomba 3 years ago
The Church Of Scientology should be watching this if they want to change their reputation.
I had a similar experience with Scientologists hounding me for my bank card details.
xemutv 3 years ago 7
*Clap Clap Clap Clap* I applaud you xemutv. The belief system of Scientology has some good points, but the real problem is the money hungry CO$. CO$ is simply put a money hungry cult. In other words its a sect of the belief system. Free Zoners would be the real religion. xemutv are you part of the Free Zone? Most critics are against CO$ and their policy towards members and anyone not part of them. But xemutv you still direct people towards CO$ why? You can direct to literature in library's.
BKF666 3 years ago 3
Life is a
I am Freezone.learning curve. We must sometimes make mistakes to realise what is right.
I believe the COS is wrong to charge so much money for their courses.
This makes good honest people turn into money hungry sales persons. Remember, the more courses a Scientologist sells the quicker they ride the bridge.
xemutv 3 years ago
True enough its easy to get defensive when you think people are attacking your belief system. When a person is in a defensive position its hard to sway position or have an open mind. This hinders the learning curve a bit especially when people are attacking individuals and not the core of the issue.
Thank you xemutv for opening up on this topic I know it can be hard since some people are still attacking individuals. This happens on all sides of any argument and tends to be counter productive.
BKF666 3 years ago
I still have to question in the past you have defended the bad actions from CO$ but why? I'm seeing you turn around and your information on your channel has changed a bit to more of a neutral role. Even more to the point I gave your comment a thumbs up. Your videos might need some redoing to become more creditable though. Most of your stats and information is from CCHR on drug issues and as just about everyone knows those are skewed quite a bit after fact checking.
BKF666 3 years ago
To be fully neutral post videos on both sides condemning the individuals that did the crimes on each side of the argument. So far your videos generalize the actions of the few anons to the actions of all of anons. This is an obvious bias shown to one side. Also more to the point you need videos pointing out the changes the CO$ needs to make to better themselves and point out the crimes that individuals have done. Now you can point out rules of a group that might affect all.
BKF666 3 years ago
Nice to see xemutv taking a step in the right direction. It's a pity he can't see the pitfalls of the teachings themselves, and maybe even wake up, but one step at a time I suppose. The most important thing at this very early stage is to get the undeniably abusive management out of the CoS and into prison uniform. Next, a complete reform the way the church reacts to its critics is required.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
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osdkgfjosd 3 years ago
scientology is for losers
jointhemodernworld 3 years ago 3
lol, i decided 15 mins ago i was going to look into what surely stinks about this religion.
10 mins of tom cruise and 5 mins of this, that did't take long at all.
id like to suggest zeitgeistmovie[dot]com for some de-programing and more importantly a restoration of some fundamental facts about the world.
SenseAndLogic 3 years ago
zeitgeist is a waste of time, and full of bull.
Broan13 2 years ago 2
your mom
TrooperCX 2 years ago 2
Stay away from the church. Good advice.
Thanks so much for posting your story. It will help many.
XENUTV 3 years ago 8
wow almost 2500 views in just a couple days!
$cientology will not be pleased about this
Still, they are a dangerous cult and deserve the exposure!
DarthX3nu 3 years ago 3
Jackelyn LRH stole the techniques in part from "Abreaction therapy" developed by Freud & studied & DISCARDED by psychiatrist Dr. Carl Jung because "not a few 'traumata' (plural of trauma) were inventions of fantasy and had never happened at all." You can Wiki "Abreaction" for more info.
Def.:
Abreaction is a psychoanalytical term for reliving an experience in order to purge it of its emotional excesses; a type of catharsis. ...it is a method of becoming conscious of repressed traumatic events.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 5
Once you accept that one can have prenatal recalls and memories, the next thing you know, perhaps months or years later, you find yourself in a $cn session discussing how you were a prince in a kingdom much like a medieval one where you were thrown in a dungeon and the King (your father) slewed (assassinated) by the evil suppressive Count Xenile [could be spelled Xemile] and it all happened 150 million yrs ago on planet Roo of the Constellation Ron-Faeces and down the rabbit hole of $cn, Amen!
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 3
As you walk, you notice that some of the beasts use different tactics to lure unsuspecting people into their cells. One modern very clever beast has decorated the entrance of its cell with vacant-eyed movie stars and minor celebrities and another has decorated its cell with snapshots of happy families and wholesome activities.
DRV275 3 years ago 2
Hi....great decision you've made to not go back....You're right about everything but this is only beginning of the horrible things they do & that is happening. I was involved for 25 years & it's a nightmare. By the way....don't ignore Tory, I have known her for 30 years & she's the best, she knows what she's talking about & is always there to talk to. You're right about all you've said....
raecoyote 3 years ago 3
I really think there is no hope for vaLLarrr. Shes delusional and has serious mental problems. Well, maybe psychiatric help.. but you know how scared they are of that!! LOL :D
AlmostShaoKahn 3 years ago 2
I have the perfect solution for vaLLarrr: Electro shock therapy treatment. <== Wipe her whole memory (especially the $cn indoctrination) and START AGAIN! lol Clean slate! :)
jdtrickster4 3 years ago
over 9000 stars for this video
SteilAmSeil 3 years ago 3
Jacky,
Sounds to me like your head is back on straight. Congrats. It also looks like you've stirred up a little hornet's nest. Also congrats.
They are going to try to recapture you. It's what they do. If they can't, they'll try to intimidate you. That's what they do, too.
Someone mentioned the ex-Scientology Kids board. That's a great support resource. You might check out Ex-Scientologists Message Board, too.
If things get heavy, get in touch with Tory "Magoo" Christman (google for info).
Djangeaux 3 years ago 5
Ignore Tory you want Anonymous as the strong arm. Go to whyweprotest board.
AlmostShaoKahn 3 years ago
i love u girl!!!! u r cute and very smart (scientology is not smart). Live and learn. PEACE LOVE!
dudeosouth2 3 years ago 6
Glad you had the confidence to stand up for yourself, and that you saw sense in the end.
loopstheloop 3 years ago 5
Wow the scilons really hate this video don't they, look at the bile and fury they have about it.... anyway I just wanted to comment on the whole finger clicking and counting stuff to bring people back to "present time" she mentioned, it seems to me that this is more about stopping internal thought processes in others so they don't have time to wake up and smell the coffee, I found that part of the video very interesting.
Redshift21 3 years ago 6
"Wow the scilons really hate this video don't they, look at the bile and fury they have about it...."
They are infuriated by this video. It is very simple, straightforward and honest. And backs up everything critics have said about the high pressure sales tactics and threats. Bet they thought they could suck this young woman into their madness. They could not have been more mistaken.
cultssuck 3 years ago 3
Wow the scilons really hate this video don't they, look at the bile and fury they have about it....
They are furious. They can't successfully smear this brave young woman because she is so obviously telling the truth. And what she says backs up what critics have said for years: $cientology uses high pressure sales techniques and threats to try and suck young people into their madness.
Very smart gal, she escaped this duplicitous cult by the skin of her teeth.
cultssuck 3 years ago 4
Agreed
Redshift21 3 years ago
"$cientology uses high pressure sales techniques and threats to try and suck young people..."
They call it "Hard $ell" and they use "scare tactics," fear and intimidation. And they suck a few...at least for a while. Must remember $cn has a high turnover ratio. Most don't buy into it from the start; many leave immediately and the rest leave at some point during their "stay." Only a very few remain truly dedicated - the ones who bought into all the indoctrination. But they ALL leave, eventually.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 5
You have done really well to escape. You sound like you have really good personal boundaries - your decision not to sign up for anything that day, and STICKING to it under great pressure was such a great decision.
BTW, the "Ups and Downs" course is the one Scientology uses to cut people off from everyone who is critical of Scientology. They label them suppressive and blame all of life's ills (including sickness and accidents) on the energy of the supposedly suppressive person. It's dangerous
Plupsyeah 3 years ago 6
In other words, the person who was trying to hard sell you the course was doing all they could to set you up so that the next thing you learned was how to destroy your closest friends, how to blame them for any problems in your life (as SPs), and then how to completely and forever shut them out of your life so that you can concentrate on what's REALLY important, which is "getting across the Bridge (to total nowhere)" and "make money, make more money, make other people make money for you."
ChristianlySkeptical 3 years ago 5
You are a very brave and courageous young lady to come out and state that you were wrong. Also, it shows that you had not yet gotten deep enough into the cult to stop thinking for yourself. I hope you continue to be brave and strong in the face of the attacks from the cult. Also, I saw the cult spokesclam state on national TV that there are no aliens in the CO$. So is VAL lying about all the aliens heshe learned about? I'm confused.
AuntieKhrist 3 years ago 3
Great video- you clearly have enough self awareness and wisdom to be so much more than anything the cult would try to make you.
Your intuition is strong enough to tell you who is REALLY trying to suppress you- always listen to your intuition and anyone who is aiming to override it is not to be trusted.
Also- read Steve Hassan's "combatting cult mind control" - it is extremely enlightening.
laserofjustice 3 years ago 2
$cientology is a faith trading boiler room; it's no different from the arsehole selling you Enron stock and railing about it's staggering growth in the market when really the stock is worthless! Jason Beghe said it best, 'scientology is the perfect theta-trap' it's only worth something because you make it so in your own mind!
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago 3
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how are those white vans coming along speaker ?
robyonder 3 years ago
"how are those white vans coming along speaker ? "
How's that eliminating psychiatry coming along roby?
How's that 'clearing the planet' coming along roby?
How's that "super powers' building coming along roby?
cultssuck 3 years ago 6
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Tomy Gorman and Anon orange are both seeing white OSA vans , its only a fair question , are you knowing something i dont cultie ? ( GrriIiinN )
robyonder 3 years ago
are you knowing something i dont
I know a lot you don't roby. I know $cientology is a big fat global scam. I know your "church" has more in common with the Mafia than "religion". I know your messiah Hubbard was a total fraud and batshit crazy. And I know this video is enturbulating the hell out of you.
cultssuck 3 years ago 4
I left Scientology after more than 20 years, you surely are much more wiser than me Jackelyn! Well done!
MWI1950 3 years ago 4
"The only way to control people, is to lie to them." -LRH
It took courage for you to stand up and recognize that something was wrong, I applaud you.
Good work.
If only other scns could follow your example...
Jmbrandon9 3 years ago 5
you mean intellect, amirite?
chanologyASSIST 3 years ago 2
its called the Stockholm syndrome.
chanologyASSIST 3 years ago 2
Scientoology is for noobs.
tubester4567 3 years ago 2
LOL, when Jacky gets back on here, she's gonna be like WTF?!?!?
1600+ views, 100+ five stars, 441 comments and, oh yeah, craziness all over. ^^ All in one day. Hopefully, this will encourage her to make more vids about her experiences.
AnonRanGER01 3 years ago 2
Anything she signed is bullshit. If they try to pull that on you, get a real lawyer (or check with Graham Berry if you can't) and they can get it nullified because it was either signed under duress or is complete bullshit and unenforceable. Some of the clauses are actually illegal, especially parts that deny you wages for work done.
AnonymousCracker 3 years ago 5
LRH:
"That which is real to you is real, and Scientology is that which is real to you; and if its not real to you sit it on the back burner {pause} ...it'll boil over sooner or later {laughter}"
That's what Scientoplogy fundamentally is CHATTER!
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago
Hah, see the funny part is Hubbard "gives permission" for people to believe in what's real for them, actually tells them what they believe is real is real, THEN tells them SCIENTOLOGY IS WHAT IS REAL FOR YOU! Fucking yeah right, free will and free choice, individualism limited ONLY by the box that is $ciontololligy. More scary is the fact that thinking this over any long period of time can easily convince someone the "Wog" world is just an illusion and you can do whatever the fuck you want to.
ChristianlySkeptical 3 years ago 3
Actually Whateverthecaseis I did something similar the otherday...
Apparently Hubbard never said during the Clearing Congress disc 4 (filmed lecture 4, 5 July 1958), 8:27min, 'prerequisites to auditing' LRH:
"That which is real to you is real".
What he actually said was
"I'm a little tea pot short and stout here is me handle here is me spout"
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago
And where is "Have you lived before this life"?
I was wrong about The history of man but it wouldn't be a book sold to any new public.
And neither is the rest of what you said.
Whateverthecaseis 3 years ago
I think you're too theta for Val, Whateverthecaseis....
Stop tossing her bones she's a big girl... I think (I mean she comments like a 5-yo in the school yard)
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago
I loved it when Jason Beghe said in that Aussie news show that the higher one went up the OT levels the worse one got. And I bet he doesn't have the data on auditing creating delusional psychosis, as discovered by Dr. Carl Jung nearly three quarters of a century ago and the reason he discarded this "therapy." :)
"...not a few traumata were simply inventions of fantasy and had never happened at all"
- psychiatrist Dr. Carl Jung
Wiki "Abreaction" or "Abreaction therapy"
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 2
"...not a few traumata were simply inventions of fantasy and had never happened at all"
- psychiatrist Dr. Carl Jung
That became Hubbard's sell point...
"That which is real to you is real. And Scientology is that which is real to you!"
Around the reasoning of Scientology we go!
Speaker4Truth 3 years ago