Gender Roles

[TheBradleh]

so this dudes fruity

[barrusDemonPlucker]

Register you danmmed video maker

[cidp012]

@feanando well, the fact that you searched up gender roles and watched this video and posted a personalized comment in response to it shows that you have a bias to this issue. you needed to insert your opinion, to get validation from others to your opinion and so reinforce your belief that you are right and others are wrong, throwing in all the other things you are strongly against that have nothing to with anything in this video like socialism and nazism just challenging anyone to take offense

[cidp012]

@feanando so your ego would have someone to fight against and thus increase the illusion of separation from others and bloat itself with this addition to your personality, an addition to the beliefs and opinions that define you, that you think make you more complete, more full, more interesting. but you are never going to convert the 7 billion other people in the world to adopt your views and praise and agree with you, so that you could feel comfortable. no one achieves peace, happiness, truth

[feanando]

@cidp012 No... it just shows that I studied hard to have an opinion and I want to share it to other people because as human, I am a social being. How can you interpret someone's intention and yet believe you really know what is inside another human's mind? How irresponsible you are, and full of bias in your own mind... Really, reading your comment was an interesting experience, for I felt that I was reading a kind of human god... Whatever... What to say to someone who.. kind of knows everyghing?

[cidp012]

@feanando or true love through ego. ego operates on duality which is a fundamental misunderstanding of the true nature of reality. we humans are unlightened beings and therefore cannot claim to know the truth about anything. we have invented gender. different looking genitals, and physicalities, that's what there is. i consider gender roles to be something we are conditioned into, something we learn along the way, much like dialects or social norms. i'm a girl and i don't wear make up or skirts

[feanando]

@cidp012 You are wrong. We are not mehre animals, unlightened beings, as you claim, there's an abyss between us and the most inteligent of the animals. And this is not an ego thing. This is a really simple matter to a humble mind. But you want to believe in this gender crap. Wake up. We don't own the truth, but we can recognize it. And gender is a lie, just as your twisted crazy mind reading. And yet you believe it, for you are so free. Love.

[SarahJ83]

@feanando If gender is such a lie than why are mens brains wired differently than womens? The extra testosterone they get just before birth and again at about the age of 2 changes the way their brain develops. That being said, society does us a huge disfavor. There's no balance, no allowing children to vary slightly in the roles. Some boys (like my oldest) are more sensitive, some girls (like I was) are more rough and tumble.

[feanando]

@SarahJ83 "If gender is such a lie than why are mens brains wired differently than womens?" Well... that is my point Sarah. We are (even biologically, not exclusively biologically) different. Being different doesn't imply "being determined" nor "being forced by society"; it is a natural difference. What scares me most is that those who pass on this lie want you and I to believe that we can submit everything to our (infallible, perfect?) will, even our bodies. They don't accept this difference.

[SarahJ83]

@feanando I apologize I actually misread your post and hadn't seen your previous points yet. Sorry if I was rude.

[feanando]

@SarahJ83 Ok! Please, if you are interested in this subject, study it hard. Try to find out by yourself who wants to promote gender ideology and why. It may surprise you to find out what the cause to which many wealthy organizations commit themselves and spend a lot of money to promote it worldwide is. In Belize, Central America, some of the most expensive attorneys of the world have been hired to change that country's Constitution... This happens worldwide, and the same groups are involved.

[feanando]

@SarahJ83 Can you realize how the issue was distorted? Gender ideology promoters frequently (almost in all cases) don't accept themselves as they are and want everybody else to change their minds so that they can feel comfortable and say that "there is no difference, we rule about everything". In this process, they have to blame someone. The victims of this ideology are, usually, "the whole bad biased society" or religious people who defend the (obvious, in my opinion) difference.

[cidp012]

@feanando or do typical "girl things" like shopping, i just find those activities as unproductive for my developement as a human being. we all have both masculine and feminine life energies, the ying and the yang, they should be balanced, not surpressed. then, when in balance, they are indeed complementary and result in a physically and mentally balanced healthy human being. these are of course my opinions, peace.

[feanando]

@cidp012 BTW, sorry if I was rude. I really am fed up with so many lies and attempts to control people.

[sclapione]

@feanando Metastudies have shown that both are much more alike than different, though

[kyledmccall]

@feanando Learn the difference between sex and gender before you speak. Man and women are biologically different, but then there are three other sexes not mentioned then. Gender is an identity obtained by an individual through socialization and hormones levels generated by the individual; that's where masculinity and femininity come into play. And FYI, it's a spectrum; Masculinity and Femininity can exist at all different levels in the same person, and change throughout their life.

[feanando]

@kyledmccall

The problem for you to manipulate me and other people is that I PERFECTLY KNOW the difference between sex and gender: sex is real; "gender" is ideology, an invention of Marxist sociologists to try to make people believe that sex is not defined by nature.

And this story of a "spectrum" is the most ridiculous absurd I have ever heard in my life.

Thanks for your comment.

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando I believe gender and sexuality to equally coincide. Sexuality is a spectrum, therefore I believe gender to be a spectrum. I admit, I am female, but I believe I more closely resemble masculine aspects estabished by society. I feel more comfortable in clothes on the guy side of the store and all that shit. I read your other posts, and you seem to believe that gender is... bullshit? If I misinterpret, please let me know, but I humbly resent this idea. Gender idealogy is as feasible as any

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando philosphy. The restrictions society pushes on people is suffocating. The ideas of freedom, truth, existance- all of importance in humanity's struggle for understanding. Gender being a specific category of philosphy. I don't think it's bullshit at all.

In relationtion to this video, mainly from the title and description, as the video was very horribly presented, there are very constricting gender roles taught to us at a young age. It's angering and, yet, believable. Humanity will

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando always make that distinction between the masculine and the feminine. All in all, I really agree with kyledmccall in his comment down there. And I do not make the presumption of what your intellignece incompasses, but if you really understood gender, then you would realize that a person's conception of themself is as varied as cats and dogs. How they define themselves in their own head should be respected. Gender is no exception.

-rant over-

[feanando]

@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Debating in Youtube is difficult because one doesn't have enough space to set a common ground. As far as I am concerned, this "debate" was proposed either by homosexuals, radical feminists or by people interested in population control. It is not philosophy, it is propaganda. Without exception, concerning morality, all are relativists that want to socially justify a behavior or an idea (population control). Your intention may be pursuit of truth, but their is certainly not.

[feanando]

@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Besides, I quite agree with you that a person's conception of themself is varied; that is precisely my point: (1) relativism is false (=not all conceptions are valid); (2) one can be mistaken in this self conception (=some choices are simply wrong and act against humanity); (3) there are people very interested in misleading people in the pursuit of their very identity BECAUSE they want to socially justify their own (sexual, in this case) behavior. "Respect" is a wonderful

[feanando]

@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi word, but "respecting" ideology and propaganda against the very human nature is not only naive but also a disservice to mankind. I have done some research on this subject, and frankly I will never respect selfish ideologies and idiosyncrasies from selfish people that distort truth to obtain personal benefits; I owe respect to honest people that humbly recognize truth, even if truth sometimes appears as a heavy burden.

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando I only received your first message. Please excuse the lack of retort for a moment.

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando Ideology- system of social beliefs: a closely organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas forming the basis of a social, economic, or political philosophy or program

I just looked this word up. Unfortunately, I seemed to have used it in the wrong sense earlier. Conformity is almost as bad as being a "hipster." It's almost as bad as being homophobic or heterophobic. Extremes are usually never good in either case.

Drawing from that, I'd like to respond to your points. Damn YouTube.

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando 1) Relativism- belief in changeable standards: the belief that concepts such as right and wrong, goodness and badness, or truth and falsehood are not absolute but change from culture to culture and situation to situation

I very much agree with you on this point. Relativism is false. But there is also the idea of greater and lesser evils.

2) Yes, one /can/ be mistaken in one's own conception. That is why there are criminals. But the idea of right and wrong is very "iffy."

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando Pedophilia is considered wrong, but why? I'm not saying that I think it's alright, but don't circumstances come into play at this point? Love?

3) People like this are selfish and intolerant. I can see their motive, but going about justifying it in this mannor is completely unreasonable. Getting people to accept things like homosexuality will be virtually impossible. Some people even today are still racist.

All things aside, stereotypes are highly debatable. Conversing on a single

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando idea is likely to cause confusion. Though specifics are even more perplexing, because then you must discuss the several specifics underlying the cause of stereotype.

Debate is not my strong point. I don't even know why I took up this conversation. xD Haha, sorry if I make for a fairly uninteresting conversation. I merely wanted to get across that gender isn't bullshit.

[sihtekilsdrawkcabmi]

@feanando I just want equality. No favor in any other direction. People should be allowed to be themselves regardless. That's all I'm saying.

And yes, there certainly are those who are misguided in their ideals, but it's the better's duty to enlighten those who are ignorant to what justice and freedom truly are. But gender is not propoganda. How one defines one's own self is for that one to decide.

Aside from that, I'm both a feminist and a homosexual. Just thought I'd say.

[feanando]

@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Since you agree that mere Relativism is false (as a matter of fact, it is the destruction of any possibility of knowledge), I hope that you will some day understand why so many people oppose to homosexuality (not to homosexual people). I am one of them, I respect you and I don't accept the idea of being compared to a racist (another false argument, because in varied races around the world people also agree that homosexuality is against the continuity of human species).

[feanando]

@sihtekilsdrawkcabmi Please, go deep in this "homosexuality wave" around the world to find out why people are promoting this behavior. You would be surprised if you knew that all homosexuals are being used by (very rich) people with another kind of interests. Do you think those who promote homosexuality care about you? Do you think they love you? I bet you think so, but I repeat that you are instruments to a nasty cause: population control by a few powerful people. This has been a nice talk.

[cartoonviolencerocks]

Your "children" must be retarded to actually believe the crap you go on about the "sexism". If your worried about children, go help hospitals or something.

[priscijojo]

@cartoonviolencerocks your such a MORON. this is not about kids asshole, this is about gender roles. gendes roles ARE NOT OK.

but ok you may not understand this if you are mindclosed..

[cartoonviolencerocks]

@priscijojo yes, listen to the openminded adult, who swears to prove her point (i'm hoping you're a "she" cause if you were a guy, you obviously don't have anything better or smarter to do) if you seriously believe that disney "rearing of our children" is the main sexism problem in our life, you obviously don't have what it needs to complain about this. But what do i know about "gendes" roles, you're the smart one here, i'm just a 13 year old who actually has a point of view.