If you think that his mechanics are bad im sorry who cares what he does before his front foot hits the ground. he can spin three times throw the bat in the air and blow a bubble. But as soon as his front foots hits the ground thats when it counts and his swing is textbook perfect.
@LoveThatGirl21695 LOL... you are just nuts... his mechanics are just fine... you see the kick and the things he do... that's not bad mech... lol... he just need to find the right timing to send the ball up there... silly....
@PlowThrough8 Look at last year and the the year before Tulo is the best.. You have to take into consideration defense as well.. Tulo is the best defensively in the game.. Hanley is below average defensively and takes plays off.
@Canadacup09 Bro look i love tulo i like cargo ubaldo and that new chacin guy as well. but hanley is my boy and hes been on the top 10 plays on espn 3 times this week
@packers96worldchamps Its like a boxer.... throw a punch using the "Squish the bug" no power. Push off with a pivot and you get more power. Some folks still teach the squish the bug.
I'm a really small ballplayer and wanted to see how I could generate power. From this video I learned to throw your hips through first and that then the rest will come. Also Hanley is a boss!!!
@89Levi1 I'm an old school player, a REAL baseball player- which major league franchise did you play on? and what years? ... and no Minor Leagues does not count, even a "new school" player like me played 2 seasons in Advanced A ball!
@89Levi1 I'm an old school player, a REAL baseball player- which major league franchise did you play on? and what years? ... and no Minor Leagues does not count, even a "new school" player like me played 2 seasons on Advanced A ball!
The legs have an effect on hitting that scientists can't even begin to understand. However, this motion is completed subconsciously. I played two years of Division 1 College baseball (I believed in mechanics at this point) then I left college. What you see when you watch somebody swing is the physical body, which is the symptom of action within the mind. Therefore copying those movements doesn't create the thought necessary to maximize force production into the bat and through the ball
@SadegoGG All I can say is that copying those actions has helped me to train my 11-year-old son to become one of the best hitters in his league. BATSPEED.COM is the shit! What exactly are you recommending anyway? How should people learn to hit? I just see you contradicting people and being condescending without prescribing anything of your own.
What i'm saying is people should address the actual causes of movement (Mind and to some extent joint ROM) rather than the effects of the swing (Which our sensory factor sight captures). People are constantly using the effects of the swing (What you see) to try and teach the swing. Its like giving somebody an aspirin for getting a headache. There still going to get a headache. If you work on mechanics, you will keep getting new mechanics you have to fix and you probably won't hit
with much power in the first place. If I were to explain to you the methods I would recommend, I would have to do so over a PM rather than a bunch of youtube comments, due to the character counts.
I'm discussing people learning the causes of a good swing, rather than going on a never ending journey to learning the effects of a good swing. The cause of the swing will automatically create the effects.
Again, the cause is mind and proper joint/core preparation.
@SadegoGG all i read was your comment i related to. People always want an explanation, and i'm going to do it through youtube comments. If you don't believe that's how you hit your stupid. It's physics, and they don't lie. And batspeed is a newer website, and a newer finding.
Explain to me the physics of observing the body with the sensory factor called sight and then consciously copying what each movement appears to be, causes a person to maximize the amount of force they create within their actual body. You can use PhD's in the area of human kinetics as sources.
Have you read Dr Therman Fleet's book? I presume not.
And rotational hitting is not a 'newer finding'. Unless you are trying to argue that Ted William's career was rather recent.
@SadegoGG Did you not just see what I replied to? You were just talking about how you're not going to explain something in a bunch of youtube comments which have a character limit. So why would I? I replied to you relating to your statement.
And the greatest hitters in the game all had good rotational mechanics. But I bet you 1000 dollars that most of the greatest hitters who had great rotational mechanics couldn't explain why their mechanics apply the most forces to the ball.
Either you are not listening to me or I am not explaining this well. Rotational mechanics may be an explanation of what the outside of a hitters body does...however it has absolutely nothing to do with the cause of the swing. What you see with your eyes in a swing is a symptom of how the mind is working. When you prepare the body and have the mind working in the proper way the body will work in the most natural way possible and the 'rotational mechanics' will be created automatically
@SadegoGGHowever, my coach, who helped make the website and was the main hitter in the dvd, and who is listed in the other resources section(quakes baseball academy) has had many players come through his system and play pro ball, and a few top prospects in the minor leagues, and has had a total of 11 players since 2003 to come through his system and get drafted and 6 in the first 8 rounds. One current big leaguer (danny espinosa) played for him, and he train mlb players all the time.
@SadegoGG what are you talking about? I said how many players in the last 7 years got drafted. If you're not that good in highschool it's because you don't care. So it proves nothing. If you want to be good, you'll be good, because you'll spend hours and hours in the cage hitting and listening to your coach who knows a thing or two or do some research. No one is going to go from being a horseshit ball player, to a great one. It doesn't happen. If you love the game, you'll be good at it.
You haven't named one average high school player who made it professionally. And don't give me this not caring bullshit since from personal experience I have witnessed most kids who sit on the bench actually care more than a lot of the kids who start. There's really no other reason they'd even play. In addition, a lot of major league hitters order pizza and things like that...one of my uncles who delivers pizza frequently deliver spizza to professional/MLB baseball players
@SadegoGG What he hell does pizza have to do with this? & none that I know of have. That doesn't change anything. A kid just flew from North Carolina to California this weekend to get a hitting lesson with him. & I don't know what your talking about. You can work on rotational mechanics by hitting off a tee, soft toss, hitting a bag & many other ways. All I replied to was how you couldn't describe in youtube comments how to hit. I deal with this all the time. I just say go read batspeed.
You really don't understand what I am saying at all.
When you practice your swing by watching professional hitters and you try to repeat there actions in your swing you are not moving in a natural manner. You are moving artificially. This movement will therefore be very inefficient. The professional you are watching is moving subconsciously and in a natural manner. Just because your bodies look the same, doesn't mean the body is working the same.
When your body is working properly, you will then begin to hit at your fullest potential. Again, studying the mechanics and practicing them WILL NOT allow you to hit to your potential. Instead, conditioning your mind very carefully to produce movements naturally will allow you to hit to your potential. When you are studying the mechanics and trying to repeat them, it doesn't mean that the inside of your actual body is producing force properly to create the most powerful swing.
There isn't a scientist alive who can even begin to understand how the body actually functions in a baseball swing. To look at and analyze the outside of somebodies body (ex there arms, legs, torso, etc...) is in no way scientific. If you want to get into how exactly the movement is created you have to get into human kinetics. This is what I have been studying for a very long time. So let me tell you what human kinetics have told me (Human Kinetics = study of human movement).
1) Efficient movement is done subconsciously (You don't have to think about it). When practicing mechanics, you are centralizing on the idea of thinking about the movement until it becomes natural. This DOES NOT guarantee that the inside of your body is actually performing the movement correctly (Even if the outside of the body looks like it is). If you are doing this part correctly, you will be hitting home runs every time you take batting practice.
2) Human kinetics has come out with the breakthrough that posterior chain and kinetic link can only be transformed to its maximum if the torso leads all movements. When the torso doesn't lead movement, the movement is declared artificial (or unnatural). When this happens you are not actually recruiting the legs very much at all, and you will produce an 'All arms' swing. Forcing the torso to move first also will not maximize this kinetic link.
3) This 'kinetic link' is what is transferred as centripetal force. More specifically, this can be explained as the force from the body being translated into a turning force (This is why you see the body turn during a swing).
You can stand up and turn, twist, etc... your legs all you want and you will not produce this centripetal force (When you are not holding an object, you will spin around multiple times if you are producing this centripetal force).
Rather, when you are holding an object the force within the body is released as centripetal force through the object you are holding, which is then propelled in front of you due to something called centrifugal force.
These terms probably won't make sense to the average person, so that's why I didn't really want to get into it. There is also no sense over arguing over anything.
However, you seem to be committed to become the best you can be. And I would be willing to help you train for a few months so you can yourself determine whether you want to continue on the road of continuously working on mechanics or learning the swing so its only one very simple movement. If you would like to work with me, send me a private message. If not, there really isn't much sense in continuing this debate as its going in a continuous circle (Were not getting anywhere).
@SadegoGG And being out on the field and not caring is one thing. That's possible. That's called natural talent. But being on the bench and saying they care is another. If they cared, they'd care enough to not let themselves sit on the bench. Maybe they love the game and look like they're into it, but that doesn't mean that guy out on the field that looks like he's not into it, doesn't put more work into being good. Either way, if you want to start, unless your a natural, you have to work.
Also, I know a person who ate nothing but natural foods, worked out 5 days a week, watched mechanics film/hit/pitched almost 24/7...and he still sat on the bench throughout high school. He was on my team. Really, I felt bad for him. So your theory just fell short.
I also don't believe in 'natural talent.' I can already prove luck doesn't exist and accidents don't exist. I'd be comfortable also concluding that natural talent doesn't exist.
@SadegoGG Are you really saying that natural talent does not exist? Seriously? Someone like Beethoven who wrote a symphony at 11 has more natural talent than an average human. That claim is ludicrous. In the early years of baseball there was no film or workout regiments to help you improve. Just baseball and natural talent. So why were some players better than others? Because they were more gifted. I could never have Rickey Henderson's speed or Strasburg's velocity. That is pure natural talent.
Well when you say 'natural talent' you are referring to somebody who took a very good approach to doing something in early stages of development and attained extraordinary results. However, human potential is infinite. There are no bounds to how much an individual can improve. And if one person can do something, anybody can do it. It will take hard work and never ending persistence, however if somebody has done something, anybody can do it.
You seem to look at your limitations rather than what you could do. You could improve your speed. You could always improve your speed. There is no cap in which you cannot improve your speed anymore. You can do the same thing with the velocity of your fastball. Bare in mind, you don't even need Ricky Henderson's speed or a 100+ MPH fastball in order to become an elite major league baseball player.
@SadegoGG No matter how hard I work on velocity, I will never have a major league fastball. That is a fact. You can not go from low 70's to 90's when you are pretty much fully grown. It's not gonna happen. I also don't have the eye to be a major league hitter, I just do not have it. That is a god given gift that few people in the world have. Like Josh Hamilton, do you think he was working as hard as possible in his drug induced retirement? No. But he had enough natural talent to make it back.
Well that's just your opinion. What you said is entirely conditioning. If you choose to believe it, i'm not going to do anything to stop you.
I'm just going to suggest you don't understand the difference between 'natural' and 'artificial' movement, albeit those terms are used extremely loosely. I will also suggest you have not studied the greatest achievers of human history. Hell, ill go as far to suggest you haven't read a single book more than 100 years old outside school
Also, balance is completely natural and is performed subliminally. Do you change the way you walk to be balanced? I guess that was a bad example, since virtually nobody actually walks in a natural way anymore. I want you to observe how children under the age of 7 sit down. Human kinetic scientists say people lose their natural ability to move at around this age, conservatively. Then compare that to adults and teenagers, no wonder why people can't hit...there literally hordes of sheep.
@SadegoGG Ok ive read some of your comments and im interested. Im trying to be a better hitter and it sounds like you dont buy into the breaking the swing down into seperate body parts. It sounds more like there is a central issue with hitting. Do you recommend any certain physical activity (or mental i guess) that I could focus on?
@yeah2boy Don't pay attention to him. Check out these guys: youtube.com/user/MrBatSpeed. They know what they are talking about, and it works. Also, post your email address on my home page, and I can send you some additional materials that I have put together that can help you. I had an ex major leaguer who now teaches hitting look at it, and he tells me it's good stuff.
The physical appearance of the legs that go through your eyes is nothing more than a result of movement done by one's core. You can twist and turn and do whatever you want with your legs, however it will not translate in the bat head going through the strike zone, it will not result in centripetal force, but it will result in a predominantly arms swing...which I thought was not mainstream to understand is not powerful. At least, scientific consensus and research papers agree with that.
Your interpretation is incorrect. Some of your concepts may hold true, but your conscious involvement of the legs is entirely untruthful. When a player loads properly, they do so by thought and the physical body is merely a symptom of that thought. The lifting of the front leg and landing of the front leg (What sheep and uninformed people call a stride) is activated by a thought. This though must be related to movement of the core (Not legs), or you will not maximize kinetic link.
Lots of loading up and weight transfer. Tilted axis is nice. Front shoulder rotation is good. I don't like how much his head level drops though. Looks like a feast or famine swing.
@thsbaseball66 I agree. Focussing on the back foot is just a foolish distraction. Pay more attention to torso and front shoulder rotation while keeping the front arm and bat aligned on the plane of the swing. BAM!!!
Why in the hell would you teach kids to use their legs in their swing? There isn't a scientist alive who understands how the legs work during the swing. And if you watch the video and pay attention to the core, you will see it initiates all motion and everything else is merely subconscious. In fact, the mind creates the movement and the physical body is no more than a symptom of that movement. You're claims are ridiculous to anybody who frequents the field of human kinetics.
@SadegoGG i know you commented a while ago but i play for an aau program that wins national tournaments every year, and we have coaches that got proffestional at bats with proffesional coaching..and the legs are one of the most important muscles to hit with, after your butt muscles...you drive off your back side with your legs, especially on a pitch below the waist (which is almost every pitch at advanced levels)
Yet despite thousands of experiments attempting to confirm your hypothesis nothing has been published. Interesting. You also can't attribute a single athlete going from an average player in high school to a professional due to mechanics. Moreover, not every pitch at high levels is even pitched low. Quality MLB pitchers switch high and low pitches just like they work inside and outside. Watch the Astros vs Giants August 26, 2011 for an example.
anyone who believes in that "squish the bug" theory needs to see this video
BigBluenym 3 weeks ago
Good video. Please check out my videos and tell me what you think about my swing :)
ClmlbBaseball 1 month ago in playlist MLB Hitters
its inccredible how someone can generate that much pwer in such a short time.
Freak24Baseball 1 month ago
If you think that his mechanics are bad im sorry who cares what he does before his front foot hits the ground. he can spin three times throw the bat in the air and blow a bubble. But as soon as his front foots hits the ground thats when it counts and his swing is textbook perfect.
TheWinnie1217 2 months ago
did he hit a homer..>??!!! buahahaha...!!!!
TheOmar291992 3 months ago
The best current SS in MLB. Hamley Ramirez, Dominican like me :P
elvinjm22 7 months ago
His mechanics are pretty bad, but it works for him.
LoveThatGirl21695 7 months ago
@LoveThatGirl21695 you are stupid
rhetmontana1 7 months ago
@LoveThatGirl21695 LOL... you are just nuts... his mechanics are just fine... you see the kick and the things he do... that's not bad mech... lol... he just need to find the right timing to send the ball up there... silly....
TheOmar291992 3 months ago
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nikeman950 8 months ago
@nikeman950 shut the fuck up
igivegoodreviews 7 months ago
bat speed. nuff said
BxTaylorx7 10 months ago
Hanley Ramirez sucks ass, hes the most overrated baseball player i ever saw
LAAngels2009 10 months ago
@LAAngels2009 you mom has the most overrated sex in major league sex BITCH FUCKING TROLL
f22cool 10 months ago
Tulowitzki is the best Short stop in baseball.. Sorry Hanley.
Canadacup09 10 months ago
@Canadacup09 true true but not after the all star break hanley will lap tulo
PlowThrough8 10 months ago
@PlowThrough8 Tulo is the class of Shortstops in Mlb. Hanley is a distant second
Canadacup09 10 months ago
@Canadacup09 Tulo is much better than hanley this year but previously HANLEY WAS #1 PERIOD Not just shortstops players.
PlowThrough8 10 months ago
@PlowThrough8 Look at last year and the the year before Tulo is the best.. You have to take into consideration defense as well.. Tulo is the best defensively in the game.. Hanley is below average defensively and takes plays off.
Canadacup09 10 months ago
@Canadacup09 Bro look i love tulo i like cargo ubaldo and that new chacin guy as well. but hanley is my boy and hes been on the top 10 plays on espn 3 times this week
PlowThrough8 10 months ago
@packers96worldchamps Its like a boxer.... throw a punch using the "Squish the bug" no power. Push off with a pivot and you get more power. Some folks still teach the squish the bug.
justd3rd 11 months ago
he looks like a right handed Yaz
purplefluid109876543 11 months ago
I'm a really small ballplayer and wanted to see how I could generate power. From this video I learned to throw your hips through first and that then the rest will come. Also Hanley is a boss!!!
flomasterg 11 months ago
34k views...I see what you did there.
thehammers666 1 year ago
you guys are fucking retarted
schinanigans2 1 year ago 3
@schinanigans2 what kind of deoderant do you use
dmz4144hen 2 months ago
i bet shields was pitching cause that hit looked like a bomb
JSasRays 1 year ago
That looks like a very long swing.
HamburgerDuck 1 year ago
"A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes." - Mahatma Gandhi
jill1250 1 year ago
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@89Levi1 I'm an old school player, a REAL baseball player- which major league franchise did you play on? and what years? ... and no Minor Leagues does not count, even a "new school" player like me played 2 seasons in Advanced A ball!
multistack22 1 year ago
@89Levi1 I'm an old school player, a REAL baseball player- which major league franchise did you play on? and what years? ... and no Minor Leagues does not count, even a "new school" player like me played 2 seasons on Advanced A ball!
multistack22 1 year ago
@89Levi1
So you're changing your claim from: You hit with your arms and legs to you need strong legs to hit well. And your still arguing with me?
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@89Levi1
The legs have an effect on hitting that scientists can't even begin to understand. However, this motion is completed subconsciously. I played two years of Division 1 College baseball (I believed in mechanics at this point) then I left college. What you see when you watch somebody swing is the physical body, which is the symptom of action within the mind. Therefore copying those movements doesn't create the thought necessary to maximize force production into the bat and through the ball
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG All I can say is that copying those actions has helped me to train my 11-year-old son to become one of the best hitters in his league. BATSPEED.COM is the shit! What exactly are you recommending anyway? How should people learn to hit? I just see you contradicting people and being condescending without prescribing anything of your own.
GBDiddy 1 year ago
@GBDiddy
What i'm saying is people should address the actual causes of movement (Mind and to some extent joint ROM) rather than the effects of the swing (Which our sensory factor sight captures). People are constantly using the effects of the swing (What you see) to try and teach the swing. Its like giving somebody an aspirin for getting a headache. There still going to get a headache. If you work on mechanics, you will keep getting new mechanics you have to fix and you probably won't hit
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@GBDiddy
with much power in the first place. If I were to explain to you the methods I would recommend, I would have to do so over a PM rather than a bunch of youtube comments, due to the character counts.
I'm discussing people learning the causes of a good swing, rather than going on a never ending journey to learning the effects of a good swing. The cause of the swing will automatically create the effects.
Again, the cause is mind and proper joint/core preparation.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG Just say this, "Go to batspeed dot com if you want to learn how to hit."
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
batspeed dot com is a mechanics website and teaches artificial movements. That is the complete opposite of what I am advocating.
And I didn't see one testimonial from someone transformed into a major league hitter. Perhaps you should reread my comments.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG all i read was your comment i related to. People always want an explanation, and i'm going to do it through youtube comments. If you don't believe that's how you hit your stupid. It's physics, and they don't lie. And batspeed is a newer website, and a newer finding.
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Explain to me the physics of observing the body with the sensory factor called sight and then consciously copying what each movement appears to be, causes a person to maximize the amount of force they create within their actual body. You can use PhD's in the area of human kinetics as sources.
Have you read Dr Therman Fleet's book? I presume not.
And rotational hitting is not a 'newer finding'. Unless you are trying to argue that Ted William's career was rather recent.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG Did you not just see what I replied to? You were just talking about how you're not going to explain something in a bunch of youtube comments which have a character limit. So why would I? I replied to you relating to your statement.
And the greatest hitters in the game all had good rotational mechanics. But I bet you 1000 dollars that most of the greatest hitters who had great rotational mechanics couldn't explain why their mechanics apply the most forces to the ball.
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Either you are not listening to me or I am not explaining this well. Rotational mechanics may be an explanation of what the outside of a hitters body does...however it has absolutely nothing to do with the cause of the swing. What you see with your eyes in a swing is a symptom of how the mind is working. When you prepare the body and have the mind working in the proper way the body will work in the most natural way possible and the 'rotational mechanics' will be created automatically
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGGHowever, my coach, who helped make the website and was the main hitter in the dvd, and who is listed in the other resources section(quakes baseball academy) has had many players come through his system and play pro ball, and a few top prospects in the minor leagues, and has had a total of 11 players since 2003 to come through his system and get drafted and 6 in the first 8 rounds. One current big leaguer (danny espinosa) played for him, and he train mlb players all the time.
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Name one who was average through high school who became a starter in the Major Leagues.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG what are you talking about? I said how many players in the last 7 years got drafted. If you're not that good in highschool it's because you don't care. So it proves nothing. If you want to be good, you'll be good, because you'll spend hours and hours in the cage hitting and listening to your coach who knows a thing or two or do some research. No one is going to go from being a horseshit ball player, to a great one. It doesn't happen. If you love the game, you'll be good at it.
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
You haven't named one average high school player who made it professionally. And don't give me this not caring bullshit since from personal experience I have witnessed most kids who sit on the bench actually care more than a lot of the kids who start. There's really no other reason they'd even play. In addition, a lot of major league hitters order pizza and things like that...one of my uncles who delivers pizza frequently deliver spizza to professional/MLB baseball players
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG What he hell does pizza have to do with this? & none that I know of have. That doesn't change anything. A kid just flew from North Carolina to California this weekend to get a hitting lesson with him. & I don't know what your talking about. You can work on rotational mechanics by hitting off a tee, soft toss, hitting a bag & many other ways. All I replied to was how you couldn't describe in youtube comments how to hit. I deal with this all the time. I just say go read batspeed.
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
You really don't understand what I am saying at all.
When you practice your swing by watching professional hitters and you try to repeat there actions in your swing you are not moving in a natural manner. You are moving artificially. This movement will therefore be very inefficient. The professional you are watching is moving subconsciously and in a natural manner. Just because your bodies look the same, doesn't mean the body is working the same.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
When your body is working properly, you will then begin to hit at your fullest potential. Again, studying the mechanics and practicing them WILL NOT allow you to hit to your potential. Instead, conditioning your mind very carefully to produce movements naturally will allow you to hit to your potential. When you are studying the mechanics and trying to repeat them, it doesn't mean that the inside of your actual body is producing force properly to create the most powerful swing.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
There isn't a scientist alive who can even begin to understand how the body actually functions in a baseball swing. To look at and analyze the outside of somebodies body (ex there arms, legs, torso, etc...) is in no way scientific. If you want to get into how exactly the movement is created you have to get into human kinetics. This is what I have been studying for a very long time. So let me tell you what human kinetics have told me (Human Kinetics = study of human movement).
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
1) Efficient movement is done subconsciously (You don't have to think about it). When practicing mechanics, you are centralizing on the idea of thinking about the movement until it becomes natural. This DOES NOT guarantee that the inside of your body is actually performing the movement correctly (Even if the outside of the body looks like it is). If you are doing this part correctly, you will be hitting home runs every time you take batting practice.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
2) Human kinetics has come out with the breakthrough that posterior chain and kinetic link can only be transformed to its maximum if the torso leads all movements. When the torso doesn't lead movement, the movement is declared artificial (or unnatural). When this happens you are not actually recruiting the legs very much at all, and you will produce an 'All arms' swing. Forcing the torso to move first also will not maximize this kinetic link.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
3) This 'kinetic link' is what is transferred as centripetal force. More specifically, this can be explained as the force from the body being translated into a turning force (This is why you see the body turn during a swing).
You can stand up and turn, twist, etc... your legs all you want and you will not produce this centripetal force (When you are not holding an object, you will spin around multiple times if you are producing this centripetal force).
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Rather, when you are holding an object the force within the body is released as centripetal force through the object you are holding, which is then propelled in front of you due to something called centrifugal force.
These terms probably won't make sense to the average person, so that's why I didn't really want to get into it. There is also no sense over arguing over anything.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
However, you seem to be committed to become the best you can be. And I would be willing to help you train for a few months so you can yourself determine whether you want to continue on the road of continuously working on mechanics or learning the swing so its only one very simple movement. If you would like to work with me, send me a private message. If not, there really isn't much sense in continuing this debate as its going in a continuous circle (Were not getting anywhere).
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Might I add, if you give me just two months of your time...you will look back to yourself now and you will be appalled.
So private message me if your interested, because there really is no point in continuing this 'small talk'.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG And being out on the field and not caring is one thing. That's possible. That's called natural talent. But being on the bench and saying they care is another. If they cared, they'd care enough to not let themselves sit on the bench. Maybe they love the game and look like they're into it, but that doesn't mean that guy out on the field that looks like he's not into it, doesn't put more work into being good. Either way, if you want to start, unless your a natural, you have to work.
noahmcdx 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Also, I know a person who ate nothing but natural foods, worked out 5 days a week, watched mechanics film/hit/pitched almost 24/7...and he still sat on the bench throughout high school. He was on my team. Really, I felt bad for him. So your theory just fell short.
I also don't believe in 'natural talent.' I can already prove luck doesn't exist and accidents don't exist. I'd be comfortable also concluding that natural talent doesn't exist.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG Are you really saying that natural talent does not exist? Seriously? Someone like Beethoven who wrote a symphony at 11 has more natural talent than an average human. That claim is ludicrous. In the early years of baseball there was no film or workout regiments to help you improve. Just baseball and natural talent. So why were some players better than others? Because they were more gifted. I could never have Rickey Henderson's speed or Strasburg's velocity. That is pure natural talent.
shockattack2 1 year ago
@shockattack2
Well when you say 'natural talent' you are referring to somebody who took a very good approach to doing something in early stages of development and attained extraordinary results. However, human potential is infinite. There are no bounds to how much an individual can improve. And if one person can do something, anybody can do it. It will take hard work and never ending persistence, however if somebody has done something, anybody can do it.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@shockattack2
You seem to look at your limitations rather than what you could do. You could improve your speed. You could always improve your speed. There is no cap in which you cannot improve your speed anymore. You can do the same thing with the velocity of your fastball. Bare in mind, you don't even need Ricky Henderson's speed or a 100+ MPH fastball in order to become an elite major league baseball player.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG No matter how hard I work on velocity, I will never have a major league fastball. That is a fact. You can not go from low 70's to 90's when you are pretty much fully grown. It's not gonna happen. I also don't have the eye to be a major league hitter, I just do not have it. That is a god given gift that few people in the world have. Like Josh Hamilton, do you think he was working as hard as possible in his drug induced retirement? No. But he had enough natural talent to make it back.
shockattack2 1 year ago
@shockattack2
Well that's just your opinion. What you said is entirely conditioning. If you choose to believe it, i'm not going to do anything to stop you.
I'm just going to suggest you don't understand the difference between 'natural' and 'artificial' movement, albeit those terms are used extremely loosely. I will also suggest you have not studied the greatest achievers of human history. Hell, ill go as far to suggest you haven't read a single book more than 100 years old outside school
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@noahmcdx
Also. I would be more than willing to provide you with more in depth explanation through PMs since they don't have character count.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@89Levi1
Also, balance is completely natural and is performed subliminally. Do you change the way you walk to be balanced? I guess that was a bad example, since virtually nobody actually walks in a natural way anymore. I want you to observe how children under the age of 7 sit down. Human kinetic scientists say people lose their natural ability to move at around this age, conservatively. Then compare that to adults and teenagers, no wonder why people can't hit...there literally hordes of sheep.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG Ok ive read some of your comments and im interested. Im trying to be a better hitter and it sounds like you dont buy into the breaking the swing down into seperate body parts. It sounds more like there is a central issue with hitting. Do you recommend any certain physical activity (or mental i guess) that I could focus on?
yeah2boy 1 year ago
@yeah2boy Don't pay attention to him. Check out these guys: youtube.com/user/MrBatSpeed. They know what they are talking about, and it works. Also, post your email address on my home page, and I can send you some additional materials that I have put together that can help you. I had an ex major leaguer who now teaches hitting look at it, and he tells me it's good stuff.
GBDiddy 1 year ago
@89Levi1
The physical appearance of the legs that go through your eyes is nothing more than a result of movement done by one's core. You can twist and turn and do whatever you want with your legs, however it will not translate in the bat head going through the strike zone, it will not result in centripetal force, but it will result in a predominantly arms swing...which I thought was not mainstream to understand is not powerful. At least, scientific consensus and research papers agree with that.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@89Levi1
Your interpretation is incorrect. Some of your concepts may hold true, but your conscious involvement of the legs is entirely untruthful. When a player loads properly, they do so by thought and the physical body is merely a symptom of that thought. The lifting of the front leg and landing of the front leg (What sheep and uninformed people call a stride) is activated by a thought. This though must be related to movement of the core (Not legs), or you will not maximize kinetic link.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
wow
babyshark9 1 year ago
holy shit xD
KazKuniva 1 year ago
I bet he destroyed that pitch
jkutchey5 1 year ago
Lots of loading up and weight transfer. Tilted axis is nice. Front shoulder rotation is good. I don't like how much his head level drops though. Looks like a feast or famine swing.
GBDiddy 1 year ago
Squishing the bug is wrong and so is dragging the foot. He's forced to leave his back foot because his back side is driven through so hard.
thsbaseball66 1 year ago
@thsbaseball66 I agree. Focussing on the back foot is just a foolish distraction. Pay more attention to torso and front shoulder rotation while keeping the front arm and bat aligned on the plane of the swing. BAM!!!
GBDiddy 1 year ago
@GBDiddy
Can you find me a scientist in human kinetics who backs up your uninformed and ignorant claims?
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG LOL. Just saw your comment. Other than the insults, what do you actually disagree with?
GBDiddy 1 year ago
@thsbaseball66 that may be true, but it is the best way to teach kids to use their legs in their swing.
AK49ERFAN 1 year ago
@AK49ERFAN
Why in the hell would you teach kids to use their legs in their swing? There isn't a scientist alive who understands how the legs work during the swing. And if you watch the video and pay attention to the core, you will see it initiates all motion and everything else is merely subconscious. In fact, the mind creates the movement and the physical body is no more than a symptom of that movement. You're claims are ridiculous to anybody who frequents the field of human kinetics.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG i know you commented a while ago but i play for an aau program that wins national tournaments every year, and we have coaches that got proffestional at bats with proffesional coaching..and the legs are one of the most important muscles to hit with, after your butt muscles...you drive off your back side with your legs, especially on a pitch below the waist (which is almost every pitch at advanced levels)
BigBluenym 3 weeks ago
@BigBluenym
Yet despite thousands of experiments attempting to confirm your hypothesis nothing has been published. Interesting. You also can't attribute a single athlete going from an average player in high school to a professional due to mechanics. Moreover, not every pitch at high levels is even pitched low. Quality MLB pitchers switch high and low pitches just like they work inside and outside. Watch the Astros vs Giants August 26, 2011 for an example.
SadegoGG 3 weeks ago
great swing
airplouffe86 2 years ago 3