Let us never tolerate malicious lies served in the name of science to shift away from the guilty. 911 inside job planned mass murder and high treason.
National Geographic = evildoers propaganda tool
I like many stories in national geografic but i got suspicious when they i red stories about the war. if u look at the articles belonging to war you get a clear picture of the brainwash in the name of science. (bush+binladen)*carlyle group +322=911
Gee, I can't help but be skeptical over the fact that the images of airliner debris didn't come out until AFTER french jounalist Thierry Meyssan wrote his 2002 book '9/11: The Horrifying Fraud' about how a plane couldn't have possibly hit the Pentagon. What a coincidence!
Are we actually expected to believe that these photos are authentic when it took several months to release them. I DON'T THINK SO! Those images have PHOTOSHOP written all over them.
7:37-The wings were of little consequence cuz the Pentagon was so heavily reinforced.
Is this supposed to be a coverup or is EMRTC flat out retarded? HELLO, the wings are the STRONGEST part of the plane, and the engines are the strongest part of the wings!
For real, this documentary IS NOT impartial and favors the official story over the truthers' claims. They were less impartial than the History Channel 9/11 documentary was, but impartial nonetheless. Sorry Nat Geo, YOU GOOFED!
once more, pls explain...1.put options, 2.molten steel, 3.PNACs 'we need a new pearl harbor' 4.fireproof passports and bandana 5. nose out shot 6.bush claiming to have seen 1st drone impact live! 7. missing plane at pentagon 8. missing plane in shanksville 9.wtc7! 10. cheney and rumsfeld saying 93 was shot down! 10. NORAD standdown 11. nanothermite found 12. ppl hearing wtc basement blow up b4 any drone hit 12. core steel columns clearly sliced through, continued....
I don't understand the dispute regarding what struck the Pentagon. I also find it ironic that in the study meant to disprove the truther theory about a cruise missile calls their suspicions irrelevant, which is a hypocritical claim considering the light in which the truthers have been shown throughout this feature.
Whether or not 9/11 was an inside job, the fact that the government has since been systematically eliminating our rights is enough to give one pause.
At least Creationists can account their unfathomable stupidity to the religious brain baths they've been taking all their lives... By comparison, Trutheres are truly pathetic for the simple reason that the only thing standing between them and an accurate and rational world view is their own personal paranoia.
This is just one more way that the media is trying to help cover things up.We have 5 seperate incidents. Three building fall into their own footprint, then we have two planes totally disintigrate and leave virtually no wreckage.Come on people.
On the Pentagon attack episode of Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura, they claimed that the FBI said that the black boxes that were in the cockpit of flight 77 were found, but the FBI also claimed that the voice recordings were damaged too much to listen to for evidence. Well, than how did the Transport Safety Institute use the black boxes to figure out the details of the plane's flight, as Mete Sozen implied?
The Purdue Simulation is a freaking joke! The simulation doesn't show the plane traveling deep enough into the Pentagon to make the 16 foot hole just beyond the C-ring.
For Mete Sozen to say that he has "no doubt" that a plane hit the Pentagon is absurd. If anything, all the simulation does is show that it couldn't have been a boeing 757.
Does anybody find it odd that those objects lying on the Pentagon lawn as well as the other objects that appear to be airliner debris only appear in the Pentagon photographs and never appeared in any other post-9/11 videos or post-9/11 press conferences? If you ask me, I think this proves those objects are either photographic forgeries or they are Pentagon objects that look like plane debris but really aren't plane debris.
Let me get this straight, because Dylan Avery wasn't on scene to see plane wreckage at the Pentagon, he doesn't believe all the eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon?! Really?!
@NonnyMus1 There's reason why none of the Pentagon attack witnesses saw the plane fly over the Pentagon while the missile hit it: THEIR BRAINS TOLD THEM THE PLANE MUST HAVE BEEN THE ONLY THING THAT HIT THE PENTAGON. The fact is, humans have a survival mechanism called INATTENTIONAL BLINDNESS which causes human eyes to see or not see something if the brain tells the eyes to do so. It's the same idea as a magic trick where you see a coin fly from one hand to the other when it actually doesn't
@fanof2012 ROTFLMAO!! If you're claiming survival mechanism, consider this - the sight of a jet flying full speed into the building in which you work is so upsetting that your intentional blindness likely would have been to NOT to see the plane!
You must be made outta rubber because that is just one huge long far-fetched stretch!! LOL!
Thanks for the laugh, though. Stay in school and study as much science as you can. There may be hope for you yet, kiddo! =D
@NonnyMus1 Apparently you think my theory is a joke. Well, I would like to encourage you to watch the first half of the NovaScienceNOW episode titled "How does the Brain Work" and you will understand how INATTENTIONAL BLINDNESS works. You can find the episode on youtube.
Also, the Nat Geo channel just did a special on the subject in it's recent show "Brain Games: Pay Attention".
@fanof2012 LMAO!! People suffer from hysterical blindness, also! But neither played a role in 9-11 for more than a handful, no matter how many irrelevant documetaries you refer me to!
Seriously! Your claim is a joke because the key feature of intentional blindness is that It's caused by an absence of attention!! Believe me, the Pentagon witnesses were paying attention to that low-flying jet slamming into the building!! Many of them even had the training to recognize what kind of jet it was!!
I must give the truthers' the benefit of the doubt when they decide to reject images of what appears to be airliner debris. After all, there isn't any evidence that those images truly are airliner debris. And to think that a small part of the fuselage could've survived the wreck while the whole rest of the fuselage didn't survive sure does seem ridiculous. Just cuz the object has a red stripe on it means it's part of an American Airlines plane? Gimme a break
On the History Channel 9/11 conspiracy show, the conspiracy debunkers claim that a huge fireball was formed when the plane hit the Pentagon. They also claim this fireball was what caused the interior damage to the Pentagon.
Well, maybe someone should tell Mete Sozen and his Purdue comrades that their simulation SHOWS NO SUCH FIREBALL. Either the simulation is wrong, or the debunkers are wrong, or we have ourselves the smoking gun that proves that a boeing DID NOT hit the Pentagon.
@fanof2012 I've just watched the simulation and it shows the dispersal of the jet fuel, which is ignited upon impact. Neither the simulation, nor the debunkers are wrong, only the so called "truthers"!
@neilus What I don't get is how some people say Bush was such a dumb guy, yet others say he was in charge of this elaborate huge conspiracy.... so which is it? Is he a dummy or an evil genius? Now that's a conspiracy.
@neilus Yeah well, I could've stopped you before you got to the bottom. Oil is traded on a world market. That wouldn't effectively manipulate oil prices. So far we've seen scientists and engineers debunking their 9/11 theories, financial execs like myself debunking their silly "grand plot" by the federal reserve. They don't even know how the banking system operates in basic form, let alone economics.
@neilus It just goes to show you that ppl are either too proud to be an American citizen or are too much of a wishful thinker to understand that the official story of 9/11 cannot possibly be true. Yup, that's the key reason why many ppl still believe that 9/11=TERRORIST ATTACK
The government was well aware that ppl would find evidence that a missile and not a plane hit the Pentagon, but they were also aware that many ppl would deny the evidence no matter how convincing it seems.
can somebody please explain to me the logic behind the truthers' rejection of an actual photograph of the plane wreckage? it's right there before your own eyes but...you don't want to be wrong so you just claim it's fake or something? jesus fucking christ i don't get it
@pinkycheeks I'll explain it, there is no logic behind anything the truthers have. Any proof you show them... it was planted there, it doesnt' have anything to do with how something happened, it was an experiment that was all wrong, I mean, if you watch this entire program, they just gufaw every explanation and demonstration. They're all nuts.
@pinkycheeks It's like a religion. You can show religious nuts contradictions and mutually exclusive teachings in their holy books all you want and they'll still believe. I have some faith in attrition, though. Eventually you can wear them down to where they stop arguing and stop advocating, even though they will *never* admit you are right.
Well, hardly ever! Every once in a great while, someone finally sees the light and 'converts'. We can hope for that, anyway...
PEOPLE GO TO *PHYSICSANDREASON* CHANNEL AND WATCH A ENGINEER PROVE THIS WRONG, HE USES A SMALL AMMOUNT OF THERMATE TO CUT THROUGH A BEAM !!!! THIS VIDEO OR ONE OF THEM SAYS IT CANT BUT IT CAN !!!! FACT !!!! DO U SEE THE NIST & MEDIA CONSPIRACY NOW
@Headshothorror4488 PLEASE GO TO THE AE FOR 911 TRUTH WHERE THEY PUBLISHED A CORRECTION/RETRACTION ON THE THERMITE USAGE!!! IT'S THERE READ IT FOR YOURSELF.
Yeah and ? NIST report retracted the words that there report went along with physics !! Cause it goes against physics. Nist has done a second grader report and left out sooo much evidence. Ae911 shows MUCH evidence for a demo and nist stopped after the collapse started so they dont explain how a small block could take out a huge one without smashing itself very fast which goes against physics. Thanks but ae911 shows evidence/ common sense unlike nist. There experts
@twinkman1 Truthers are expert engineers and architects who show evidence unlike the nist conspiracy report, Thermate cant cut through a beam they say in this conspiracy series , Well *physicsandreason* Channel who i a engineer Proves them wrong by using a SMALL amount of thermate to cut right through a beam, Nist report goes against physics and science, FACT,
Its no belief its Evidence an common sense. Building 7 was NOT hit and had very very small fires and collapsed like a demo and Exactly like the others. You have to be mentally challenged to think thats normal. Go check all the buildings that had Much Bigger fires from top to bottom on Every floor/room and burned Much longer but never ever fell. No building in history has. Engineers,architects,firemen,fbi-agents,scientists and more then half usa people disagrees with u, FACT
@Headshothorror4488 Actually,get your facts right, WTC7 had 25% of the south face destroyed when the north tower collapsed, starting fires on several floors. Let me ask you, if it was a controlled demolition why weren't there explosions prior to the collapse? Why did the east mechanical penthouse fall away first then 7-8 seconds later the rest of building? Not possible with a controlled explosion. If it was controlled why was there so much damage to the Verizon building? Not very controlled huh?
Also, you are wrong about steel frame buildings never collapsing. 1970 1 New York Plaza, suffered a partial collpase due to fire alone. Alex Jihon Plaza, Canada 1996, suffered a partial collapse due to fire alone. Then there's the famous Kader Toy factory which collapsed due to fire alone. Sorry those are facts.
I don't know the truth about 911 because I haven't heard it yet. There is little science here. Where are the engines and the damage they would have done? To me they are the biggest potential hole punchers on a jet since they are made of the strongest and most heat resistant materials. Botomfeader makes a good point. The debris on the lawn doesn't account for the stuff that couldn't fit through the original hole. Give us the truth or at least well reasoned guesses from someone I can trust.
Go to *physicsandreason* channel on u tube and listen to a engineer and watch all of his videos cause they are fact and prove NIST wrong. He also proves a national geographic episode wrong were they say thermate cant cut through a beam, Go watch him prove them wrong and show how media is run by the gov cause they lie in that episode. Go to AE911 truth or type it on google and those expert engineers and architects will show you much science evidence.
@shagster1970 What are you talking about? I can see a plane in both of the fish eye lens shots. Clearly see the fuselage, the large tail wing, the engine on that side, and the colors is correct with the plane that crashed there.
@shagster1970 Exactly !! That would prove some wrong yet they dont show it cause it may have not happened. All i know is #7 was a demo and wtc and engineers and architects show evidence for this. Half the usa people agree , a pole was taken also thousands of firemen agree and some gov agents. its common sense to me and Many many others in the world. Some people just believe all they hear on tv instead of science evidence
So if the steel columns cut through the plane that hit the Pentagon, why didn't that happen when the planes hit the Towers? The columns were much much larger, and apparently they were severed, but here they were not? Yet they were much smaller than those that made the Towers.
Hmmm, what about the confiscated exterior camera that showed a plane flying over the pentagon while a explosion went off underneath it, while the plane flew overhead.. Wheres that video at?? probably the same place those blackboxes are.
So as we can already see these guys cant properly run a small piece of aluminum into a wall on the first run, Not to mention the other 2 previous tests that seem to exclude any scientific basis or practice.
There is a huge problem with this analysis. You can't have it both ways. Either the wings entered the building and if they did where are the wing holes. Or the wings broke off and if they did would they be easily seen outside the building?
Just waiting for truthers to answer this, if a missile hit the pentagon, how did it swerve to hit 5 light poles and a 20 ton generator wasknock it off its base?
@Obelisk2290 Just waiting for deniers to answer these:
How did the plane make it to the pentagon after hitting 5 light poles, leaving no damage on the lawn, and going 500 miles per hour?
How the Hell did this object that hit the pentagon make it through the most protected airspace on the planet, without even a single defensive reaction from the military?
@RedBloodReign And a better one: Why is it that the flight recorder information released by NTSB shows that the plane was not only hundreds of feet above the light-poles, but not even on the same trajectory as the light poles?
@Obelisk2290 the light poles you speak of were not hit, but were cut and staged, all part of the smoke and mirrors used in an attempt , although poorly done, to support there bs story, look into the taxi drivers story about being paid off by gov. agents.
even if the planes were hijack, them terrorist only got those knives on them as weapons. ur telling me a plane full of HUNDREDS of pple couldnt rush them terrorists and fucked them up. its not like they got GUNS. even if the terrorists were like dont move we've got bombs, i would have still rushed them fools. i'd rather have the plane blow up in the air than crashing it into the towers where more lives would be lost.
Loose Change says, "wtf, why didn't the wings cause any damage"
This documentary says, "lets shoot a projectile that has no wings and see what it does, and then blow up a bomb like that has anything to do with a missile hitting the object."
This test is shoddy at best. I have no idea what hit the pentagon but this doesn't answer shit.
come on man stop saying shit like that, its because of dumb comments like that people think those of us searching for the truth are crazy. how about we start by analyzing the physical anomaly of building 7
@tehgreatist thank you, everyone would like to ignore building 7 and sweep it under the rug with all the other insurmountable evidence showing a planned collapse.
@ittaBIT27, Right......Fly two planes into two of the world trader centers, then blow them up with some futuristic demolition, then 9 hours later decide not to fly a plane into WTC7 and just blow it up instead completely avoiding all logic. haha, come on its such a stupid idea.
I, for one, require more proof than just the NWO and 9/11 on our paper currency... I prefer to have a deep intellectual understanding of the subject matter of 9/11 and the New World Order.
Anyone who wants REAL proof of a 9/11 Inside Job, please contact me.
Anyone who wants to have a REAL discussion of the facts and evidence and who was really behind 9/11, please contact me.
Dylan Avery did loose change, and if I were him, I wouldn't have agreed to do anything unless they also showed me asking the question about building 7!! They just showed some average joe on the street talk about building 7, but didn't ask any questions!!
where? Why didn't the sprinklers work? The fire dept didn't even try to put it out! Why didn't building 5 and 6 fall for the same reason? They took more direct damage from debris and burned longer and hotter, and their steel frame had to be taken down! 7 burned inside out and collapsed in what appears to be a controlled explosion. Other buildings closer to the towers are still there, too much doesn't add up!
National Geographic spent tons of money and effort to debunk theory's but they can't for 7! There is no good explanation!
They probably figured they wouldn't need to demo 5, &6, but they were still standing after having tons of crap fall on them! YOU ARE PROVING MY POINT! The FD wouldn't need to send people up, why didn't they even try to hose it down? Why didn't the fire suppression system work?
even if building 7 is some miraculous insurance fraud , with a silent invisible explosive (which btw is impossible...)... it would still prove NOTHING about the other buildings.
What no sprinklers...every building has them..Just decided not to use them...and it has'nt ever been debunked...It was ignored in the 911 commision report all together
why don't you watch 9/11 debunked WTC 7 ..it explains that the diesel fuel tanks in the generators caught fire when burning debris from the North Tower landed on thems and destroyed 25% of the lower part of Bldg 7...it also collapsed one of the 3 truss supports of bldg 7....news reports by the BBC clearly indicated that building 7 was starting to lean over...and the fire dept could see that it was leaning over.
It's frustrating when people don't want to look at the evidence objectively
Watch the film on building 7 collapse by debunked...it will explain it all to you about the generators in the basement that caught fire..the structural damage by the North tower falling debris....
I just saw this whole thing on cable and I'm calling BS!!! They didn't try to explain Building 7 at all!!!!! Even the video they showed shows flashes of explosions while the building implodes!! There is no way to do that without demolitions!
Ed wow great come back....I'm impressed ...Very well thought out...insightful....I can just picture u with your tongue hanging out pounding out your reply..
wow, you are just completely dumb. The "truthers" had every chance to provide an explantion of their own, and only came up with "yeah, but you didn't try the super duper thermite"
Of course you cannot try something that is made up for the purpose of continuing a dumbass lame detective game with ZERO evidence.
Dude nobody is ever going suck your dick, you hear me? You are going to die without ever getting fellatio. Big deal if the model did not have the engines on them.
"Big deal if the model did not have the engines on them. " yes it's a big deal., because the engines are the strongest and heaviest parts of the airplane. The maximum damage would come from the turbines.
A plane did not hit the pentagon. Whats that, you see multiple pieces of an American Airlines plane and other debis? Move along nothing to see here, especialiy the 5 broken light poles and the 20 ton generator that got lifter off its mooring, move along
Why are the wings inside the building in this Purdue simulation. I / we were told the wings evaporated . And on the WTC sim the rear higher wings follow into the same hole as the lower front wings .
who here believes Hani Hanjour actually highjacked that plane, vanished from radar, penetrated the most heavily guarded airspace in the world, and pulled off that spectacular maneuver?
lol. you better watch out, Osama the boogieman is coming to steel all of your freedom. lol. what a joke this piece is.
Why are there no engines under the wings on their computer model? It was a 757 right? I suppose they want me to believe that titanium engines will vaporize on impact, just as they say the wings did. What is even more funny is that the model test they do at the end goes wrong but in a way it went beautifully because it proved that a thin skinned hollow vessel will damage concrete structures despite hitting broad-side. That indicates that the wings alone should have left a mark.
There is a photo of a plane hitting the building. If you expect large pieces of it, you are a retard. Still waiting on your explanation of what happened, which you seem to feel is strong enough to to discredit the deaths of these victims.
Hey dumbass. They pulled AA wreckage along with victims and hijackers remains OUT of the Pentagon. It was photographed and used as evidence in court against (I forget his name). The lightpoles and generator verify the path that backs up the "official story" and in the video released of the attacks, an object the EXACT same scale, color and shape as an AA flight removes doubt if you were stupid enough to doubt in the first place.
show me the pulled AA wreckage from pentagon if it was photographed then you sould be able to show two motors and three landing gears and the metal seat belts
lightpoles and generator verify the path that backs up the "official story" yes but
Eye witnesses said the plane wasnt on that path you can watch them say it on here and if that plane wasnt on that path then it cant hit the poles and make it in building at that angle and what camera show 77 plz link it
So you must obviously be suggesting that some sort of explosives blew over the light poles and the generator? That's just dumb.
You base all of your beliefs on just 1 or 2 eyewitnesses who are mistaken/lying, against all of the other eye witnesses who backup the "official story".
Go away fool. Real people died in a most horrible way, this isn't a game for you to be having fun playing with conspiracies.
You just ignored the images of the aircraft on there. You did not talk about the expert and witness testimony of debris inside and outside the pentagon.
You also ignore the majory of civilian eye witnesses in which the consensus reveals that a large plane flew into the Pentagon, and instead you vaguely mention a few eye witnesses who are either mistaken or blatant liars.
Speaking of liars, you are one. You are one of the most idiotic twoofers I've spoken to, so I won't waste my time.
and your debris inside and outside the pentagon isnt even a half of the plane and was moved by people going around picking it up with their hands
but for fun lets say it did
the penagon has five missile batteries around it and they send code signals to and from the planes in its air space and if you dont have the right codes to send back your shoot down it dont ask to shoot and fight 77 didnt have them codes because they are not given it
@KJC24 Hope you are happy living in a lie, well fortunately the satanic elite who own America are going to make another big move that will invovle many deaths 1-2 years from now.
@KJC24 how do they do it? in a manner spookily similar to Holocaust deniers a) deny it. simply refuse to ackowledge the evidence. if this doesnt work, then b) recognise it, but discredit it, say it was planted,or images were doctored etc...doesnt really matter...if all else fails then c) just egnore it and carry on with your deluded, paranoid gobshite.
@Rememberthename8 "most guardest buildings?" Nice english... And yes I've seen the video of the hit, when a plane is going 600 miles an hour, and the video camera takes a picture one frame of that angle at the rate it did, you're not going to see much. I suppose since you didn't see video of your mom fucking your dad to concieve you, it didn't happen, so I'm not really talking to anyone right now.
@thebatman101069 First off, that's correct English, professor. You have not seen a video of a plane hitting the Pentagon. Stop lying. :) If you did I wouldn't be bickering with you right now, would I? Nice comparison by the way. If they fucked on tape I'd happily show you the sex tape. However, the Pentagon on the other hand... don't feed into the lies, Bruce Wayne. It's like a work of fiction. Do you know what Dick Cheney said when he was informed the plane was coming towards the Pentagon? hmm
@Rememberthename8 "most guardest building" is correct English? The proper English would be "most GUARDED building." Do I know what Cheney said...hmmm no I don't because it's not on video, so if it's not on video, I don't believe it. Do you have the video of what he said in the secret meeting in the bunker?
@Rememberthename8 oh wait, I forgot, I don't have proof that YOU exist because there's no video of it. Nevermind I'm not talking to anyone right now...
@thebatman101069 Scanning post for wit: NONE FOUND. Anyways, back to the topic at hand. What do you know of the conspiracy? Do you know the term Novus Ordo Seclorum, for starters? I'm just wondering sir/ma'am, feel free to not answer.
@Rememberthename8 Scanning post for intelligence...NONE FOUND. Anyone who thinks the words "most guardest" is an acceptable phrase shouldn't be arguing conspiracy theories. And yes I know what "Novus Ordo Seclorum" is, it's Latin for "New Order of the Ages", often mistranslated as "New World Order", and it's the motto of the Great Seal of the United States which was designed in the late 1700's. It's also been on the 1 dollar bill since 1935. What about it?
@thebatman101069 lol oops I thought I put most guarded. I highly doubt that is a mistranslation. New order of the ages means exactly that: a new world order. Especially when the men behind it USE THAT TERM DAILY ON TELEVISION AND THROUGH OTHER MEDIUMS. Speaking of the great seal of the United States and the dollar, how was the federal reserve started, chap? Let's see if you know what various others I've talked to haven't the slightest idea about.
Charles Thompson came up with design for the Great Seal of the United States in 1782, His explanation "On the base of the pyramid the numerical letters MDCCLXXVI (1776)...the date underneath is that of the Declaration of Independence and the words under it signify the beginning of the new American Æra, which commences from that date."
Charles Thompson came up with design for the Great Seal of the United States in 1782, His explanation "On the base of the pyramid the numerical letters MDCCLXXVI (1776)...the date underneath is that of the Declaration of Independence and the words under it signify the beginning of the new American Æra, which commences from that date."
@thebatman101069 Why do you say that? I think the bank cartel that's not federal that makes our money in this country is rather important, don't you think? We didn't always have a central bank... and the history behind the Federal Reserve's coming into being is probably worth a look.
@thebatman101069 Thanks for that. Now I want you to check this out. watch?v=Ptcp07v_w-w I'd rather you skip all the quotes and just go for the video footage with politicians/powerful men using the term 'New World Order.' Everything prior in this argument aside (grammar issues and an argument about latin translation which I really have no interest in continuing because it's equally debatable and I respect your perspective) I would like for you to watch at least 2 parts of that video. Thanks sir..
All members of the parliament, myself included, were rendered speechless.
American experts from the Center for Strategic Studies, were on hand to explain the action on the screen.
Then a parliamentarian finally said: Today we were shown a convincing demonstration of how Osama Bin Laden's image can be completely manipulated. All the Osama's we have seen over the years, may never have existed. Just as a nuclear attack on NATO Headquarters in Brussels has never taken place.
1.was seen on video 2.plane cutout in side of building and 3.the planes was found in rubble after both building fell and after that HUGE steel melting fire they find huge parts of plane one a side with five to six window holes
and the FDR and eye witnesses dont match and not one video shows it so walmart 10 cameras and pentagon just one HAHA come on and can you show the hazmat clean up report? and where is the tail fin?
The fact you even ask for an intact tailfin demonstrates your stupidity. If a plane crashes into a reinforced concrete building, there is not going to BE a tailfin. The reason there is no cartoon-like aircraft shape in the building like there was in the WTC, is because it's a reinforced concrete building. Eye witnesses said the wings folded back. Stop ignoring the witness testimony of the majority in favour of a few obviously mistaken ones. That shows your bias right there.
Eye witnesses said the wings folded back did you just say that how? hahaha ok ill stopStop ignoring the witness testimony like the guys who said the plane DID NOT fly the path the gov. said it did or the guy who said he smelled cordite that worked in pentagon or how about Cab driver Lloyd England who cab got hit by lightpole #1 so do you accept them Eye witnesses or That shows your bias right there right?
what does the flight path matter? aren't you saying that there was no plane to begin with? why do you take seriously any testimony about the flight path if you are saying that a plane did not hit the pentagon? What happened to the lightpoles if it was not a plane? what about the people that DID see the plane hit the building? I suppose those are immediately discredited by you so that you can live on with your selfish void.
the plane and human remains of the victims were at the pentagon. Tell me what happened to all of the people from that flight if you REALLY think it wasn't a plane. YOu deserve to have had a family member die in this attack. then YOU could listen to non-scientfic retarded assholes discredit the death of your family member without ANY evidence or explanation of their own. you are a complete scumbag, move on to something else to fill the void.
the plane and human remains of the victims were at the pentagon.
how do you know this did you pick them up or you just taking someones word and do you have pics marked and tagged like every crime scene is done you dont move anything till its tagged so show it
and there is family members asking for new look into this and yes i would love someone looking into it if i had family member die in this attack and i would not stand for someone hiding the facts
what happened to the victims then, you'd better have something solid if you are going to discredit death. planes are not on radar when they are flying that low. your rese
It is... impossible that a Boeing 757 could enter the Pentagon's air space without being destroyed by one or more of the five missile batteries protecting the building
Are these "missile batteries" programmed to shoot down all commercial jets? Maybe that type of attack wasn't anticipated?
If the missile batteries had shot down a commercial airline jet as it was crashing into the pentagon, you would be SCREAMING conspiracy and attempting to fill the void even WORSE that you are now. Stop making an ass of yourself.
wargames? they did war games which included "missile batteries" which automatically shoot down a ... COMMERCIAL JET (non-missile btw). Wouldn't they be called commercial jet batteries? Don't you think that type of device might be a little... dangerous and... just plain dumb?
You twoofers are such dumbasses. It is proven that airliners hit the WTC, so why not the Pentagon? The lightpoles being knocked down and the generator being hit are consistent with the FDR, eye witnesses, passenger corpeses and aircraft debris.
So sad that you will exploit the tragic deaths of innocent people for your own enjoyment in playing with conspiracy theories. Real people died, this is not a game. Get your facts straight, or shut the fuck up.
This has been flagged as spam show
Let us never tolerate malicious lies served in the name of science to shift away from the guilty. 911 inside job planned mass murder and high treason.
National Geographic = evildoers propaganda tool
I like many stories in national geografic but i got suspicious when they i red stories about the war. if u look at the articles belonging to war you get a clear picture of the brainwash in the name of science. (bush+binladen)*carlyle group +322=911
(cheney*norad) +322=911
(wolfowitz*PNAC) +322=911
ozelot 1 week ago
Gee, I can't help but be skeptical over the fact that the images of airliner debris didn't come out until AFTER french jounalist Thierry Meyssan wrote his 2002 book '9/11: The Horrifying Fraud' about how a plane couldn't have possibly hit the Pentagon. What a coincidence!
Are we actually expected to believe that these photos are authentic when it took several months to release them. I DON'T THINK SO! Those images have PHOTOSHOP written all over them.
fanof2012 2 weeks ago
7:37-The wings were of little consequence cuz the Pentagon was so heavily reinforced.
Is this supposed to be a coverup or is EMRTC flat out retarded? HELLO, the wings are the STRONGEST part of the plane, and the engines are the strongest part of the wings!
For real, this documentary IS NOT impartial and favors the official story over the truthers' claims. They were less impartial than the History Channel 9/11 documentary was, but impartial nonetheless. Sorry Nat Geo, YOU GOOFED!
fanof2012 2 weeks ago
once more, pls explain...1.put options, 2.molten steel, 3.PNACs 'we need a new pearl harbor' 4.fireproof passports and bandana 5. nose out shot 6.bush claiming to have seen 1st drone impact live! 7. missing plane at pentagon 8. missing plane in shanksville 9.wtc7! 10. cheney and rumsfeld saying 93 was shot down! 10. NORAD standdown 11. nanothermite found 12. ppl hearing wtc basement blow up b4 any drone hit 12. core steel columns clearly sliced through, continued....
wellifthemediasaysit 3 weeks ago
Well done FOX TV Still bringing high grade bullshit.
Stringyheads 1 month ago
I don't understand the dispute regarding what struck the Pentagon. I also find it ironic that in the study meant to disprove the truther theory about a cruise missile calls their suspicions irrelevant, which is a hypocritical claim considering the light in which the truthers have been shown throughout this feature.
Whether or not 9/11 was an inside job, the fact that the government has since been systematically eliminating our rights is enough to give one pause.
Ogawa47 1 month ago
Attn: RJC24 and you opponents of truth...
All we know is SOMETHING hit the bldg. That's it.
By not showing the vids they FORCE critical minds to wonder.
Anyone who doesn't wonder.....
I wonder about them....
MrNoblemanoflove 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
At least Creationists can account their unfathomable stupidity to the religious brain baths they've been taking all their lives... By comparison, Trutheres are truly pathetic for the simple reason that the only thing standing between them and an accurate and rational world view is their own personal paranoia.
skoockum 2 months ago
national geographic is owned by FOX NEW.
f1ght2bfr33 2 months ago
This is just one more way that the media is trying to help cover things up.We have 5 seperate incidents. Three building fall into their own footprint, then we have two planes totally disintigrate and leave virtually no wreckage.Come on people.
howlinwolfcustoms 3 months ago
On the Pentagon attack episode of Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura, they claimed that the FBI said that the black boxes that were in the cockpit of flight 77 were found, but the FBI also claimed that the voice recordings were damaged too much to listen to for evidence. Well, than how did the Transport Safety Institute use the black boxes to figure out the details of the plane's flight, as Mete Sozen implied?
Seems kinda fishy, doesn't it?
fanof2012 4 months ago
The Purdue Simulation is a freaking joke! The simulation doesn't show the plane traveling deep enough into the Pentagon to make the 16 foot hole just beyond the C-ring.
For Mete Sozen to say that he has "no doubt" that a plane hit the Pentagon is absurd. If anything, all the simulation does is show that it couldn't have been a boeing 757.
fanof2012 4 months ago
Does anybody find it odd that those objects lying on the Pentagon lawn as well as the other objects that appear to be airliner debris only appear in the Pentagon photographs and never appeared in any other post-9/11 videos or post-9/11 press conferences? If you ask me, I think this proves those objects are either photographic forgeries or they are Pentagon objects that look like plane debris but really aren't plane debris.
fanof2012 4 months ago
@fanof2012 Look at the dates the photos were taken. You're welcome!
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
Can thermite of ANY type cut steel beams?!? I guess it CAN: watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g
RummelsdorfLabs 5 months ago
That video snippet of a missile is a Javelin, not a cruise missile. Oops.
sscheinfe 5 months ago
Let me get this straight, because Dylan Avery wasn't on scene to see plane wreckage at the Pentagon, he doesn't believe all the eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon?! Really?!
That is just delusional. Get that boy some help!!
NonnyMus1 5 months ago
@NonnyMus1 There's reason why none of the Pentagon attack witnesses saw the plane fly over the Pentagon while the missile hit it: THEIR BRAINS TOLD THEM THE PLANE MUST HAVE BEEN THE ONLY THING THAT HIT THE PENTAGON. The fact is, humans have a survival mechanism called INATTENTIONAL BLINDNESS which causes human eyes to see or not see something if the brain tells the eyes to do so. It's the same idea as a magic trick where you see a coin fly from one hand to the other when it actually doesn't
fanof2012 4 months ago
@fanof2012 ROTFLMAO!! If you're claiming survival mechanism, consider this - the sight of a jet flying full speed into the building in which you work is so upsetting that your intentional blindness likely would have been to NOT to see the plane!
You must be made outta rubber because that is just one huge long far-fetched stretch!! LOL!
Thanks for the laugh, though. Stay in school and study as much science as you can. There may be hope for you yet, kiddo! =D
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
@NonnyMus1 Apparently you think my theory is a joke. Well, I would like to encourage you to watch the first half of the NovaScienceNOW episode titled "How does the Brain Work" and you will understand how INATTENTIONAL BLINDNESS works. You can find the episode on youtube.
Also, the Nat Geo channel just did a special on the subject in it's recent show "Brain Games: Pay Attention".
fanof2012 4 months ago
@fanof2012 LMAO!! People suffer from hysterical blindness, also! But neither played a role in 9-11 for more than a handful, no matter how many irrelevant documetaries you refer me to!
Seriously! Your claim is a joke because the key feature of intentional blindness is that It's caused by an absence of attention!! Believe me, the Pentagon witnesses were paying attention to that low-flying jet slamming into the building!! Many of them even had the training to recognize what kind of jet it was!!
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
I must give the truthers' the benefit of the doubt when they decide to reject images of what appears to be airliner debris. After all, there isn't any evidence that those images truly are airliner debris. And to think that a small part of the fuselage could've survived the wreck while the whole rest of the fuselage didn't survive sure does seem ridiculous. Just cuz the object has a red stripe on it means it's part of an American Airlines plane? Gimme a break
fanof2012 5 months ago
@fanof2012 LOL! Funny!! =D
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The airplane was cut by the Pentagon columns into shreds.
The otehr planes cut through the WTC columns.
Problem?
jorgeaeg 5 months ago
@jorgeaeg Only if you can't tell the difference between aluminum-clad steel and steel-reinforced masonry!!
=D
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
Comment removed
jorgeaeg 5 months ago
On the History Channel 9/11 conspiracy show, the conspiracy debunkers claim that a huge fireball was formed when the plane hit the Pentagon. They also claim this fireball was what caused the interior damage to the Pentagon.
Well, maybe someone should tell Mete Sozen and his Purdue comrades that their simulation SHOWS NO SUCH FIREBALL. Either the simulation is wrong, or the debunkers are wrong, or we have ourselves the smoking gun that proves that a boeing DID NOT hit the Pentagon.
fanof2012 6 months ago
@fanof2012 I've just watched the simulation and it shows the dispersal of the jet fuel, which is ignited upon impact. Neither the simulation, nor the debunkers are wrong, only the so called "truthers"!
Scorpitarios 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@fanof2012 Wow, you really didn't read the background of the simulation or watch the video, did you? LOL!
Do it now or look the fool! /watch?v=cddIgb1nGJ8 & tinyurl . com /5wbwbza (remove the spaces).
NonnyMus1 4 months ago
soooo where did the 70 passengers from flight 77 go? the same tropical island 2pac and biggie smalls are on. doy
mvallin 6 months ago
Bush: "ok lets create some bullshit we can blame on the Muslims so we can go and nick all their oil"
Insider: "cool, lets fire a fucking great cruise missile into the pentagon and say it was a hijacked plane"
Bush: "ummm, wont people see that it was a missile?"
Insider: "nah, they wont notice"
Surely....even the most monumentally retarded US president ever wouldnt have been THAT dumb?????
neilus 8 months ago 8
@neilus What I don't get is how some people say Bush was such a dumb guy, yet others say he was in charge of this elaborate huge conspiracy.... so which is it? Is he a dummy or an evil genius? Now that's a conspiracy.
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@neilus Yeah well, I could've stopped you before you got to the bottom. Oil is traded on a world market. That wouldn't effectively manipulate oil prices. So far we've seen scientists and engineers debunking their 9/11 theories, financial execs like myself debunking their silly "grand plot" by the federal reserve. They don't even know how the banking system operates in basic form, let alone economics.
WallStwizkid 5 months ago
@neilus It just goes to show you that ppl are either too proud to be an American citizen or are too much of a wishful thinker to understand that the official story of 9/11 cannot possibly be true. Yup, that's the key reason why many ppl still believe that 9/11=TERRORIST ATTACK
The government was well aware that ppl would find evidence that a missile and not a plane hit the Pentagon, but they were also aware that many ppl would deny the evidence no matter how convincing it seems.
fanof2012 2 weeks ago
can somebody please explain to me the logic behind the truthers' rejection of an actual photograph of the plane wreckage? it's right there before your own eyes but...you don't want to be wrong so you just claim it's fake or something? jesus fucking christ i don't get it
pinkycheeks 9 months ago 11
@pinkycheeks I'll explain it, there is no logic behind anything the truthers have. Any proof you show them... it was planted there, it doesnt' have anything to do with how something happened, it was an experiment that was all wrong, I mean, if you watch this entire program, they just gufaw every explanation and demonstration. They're all nuts.
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@pinkycheeks It's like a religion. You can show religious nuts contradictions and mutually exclusive teachings in their holy books all you want and they'll still believe. I have some faith in attrition, though. Eventually you can wear them down to where they stop arguing and stop advocating, even though they will *never* admit you are right.
Well, hardly ever! Every once in a great while, someone finally sees the light and 'converts'. We can hope for that, anyway...
NonnyMus1 5 months ago
PEOPLE GO TO *PHYSICSANDREASON* CHANNEL AND WATCH A ENGINEER PROVE THIS WRONG, HE USES A SMALL AMMOUNT OF THERMATE TO CUT THROUGH A BEAM !!!! THIS VIDEO OR ONE OF THEM SAYS IT CANT BUT IT CAN !!!! FACT !!!! DO U SEE THE NIST & MEDIA CONSPIRACY NOW
Headshothorror4488 9 months ago
@Headshothorror4488 PLEASE GO TO THE AE FOR 911 TRUTH WHERE THEY PUBLISHED A CORRECTION/RETRACTION ON THE THERMITE USAGE!!! IT'S THERE READ IT FOR YOURSELF.
hornetgags 9 months ago
Yeah and ? NIST report retracted the words that there report went along with physics !! Cause it goes against physics. Nist has done a second grader report and left out sooo much evidence. Ae911 shows MUCH evidence for a demo and nist stopped after the collapse started so they dont explain how a small block could take out a huge one without smashing itself very fast which goes against physics. Thanks but ae911 shows evidence/ common sense unlike nist. There experts
Headshothorror4488 9 months ago
i hope this truthers are ashamed of themselves ..... they think the U.S.A. did this to there own people, you guys look like mental patients.
twinkman1 9 months ago
@twinkman1 Truthers are expert engineers and architects who show evidence unlike the nist conspiracy report, Thermate cant cut through a beam they say in this conspiracy series , Well *physicsandreason* Channel who i a engineer Proves them wrong by using a SMALL amount of thermate to cut right through a beam, Nist report goes against physics and science, FACT,
Headshothorror4488 9 months ago
@Headshothorror4488 i agree
mindfuckerification 9 months ago
@twinkman1 They won't believe anything other than their own deluded beliefs. It's quite sad really.
hornetgags 9 months ago
Its no belief its Evidence an common sense. Building 7 was NOT hit and had very very small fires and collapsed like a demo and Exactly like the others. You have to be mentally challenged to think thats normal. Go check all the buildings that had Much Bigger fires from top to bottom on Every floor/room and burned Much longer but never ever fell. No building in history has. Engineers,architects,firemen,fbi-agents,scientists and more then half usa people disagrees with u, FACT
Headshothorror4488 9 months ago
@Headshothorror4488 Actually,get your facts right, WTC7 had 25% of the south face destroyed when the north tower collapsed, starting fires on several floors. Let me ask you, if it was a controlled demolition why weren't there explosions prior to the collapse? Why did the east mechanical penthouse fall away first then 7-8 seconds later the rest of building? Not possible with a controlled explosion. If it was controlled why was there so much damage to the Verizon building? Not very controlled huh?
hornetgags 9 months ago
Also, you are wrong about steel frame buildings never collapsing. 1970 1 New York Plaza, suffered a partial collpase due to fire alone. Alex Jihon Plaza, Canada 1996, suffered a partial collapse due to fire alone. Then there's the famous Kader Toy factory which collapsed due to fire alone. Sorry those are facts.
hornetgags 9 months ago
I don't know the truth about 911 because I haven't heard it yet. There is little science here. Where are the engines and the damage they would have done? To me they are the biggest potential hole punchers on a jet since they are made of the strongest and most heat resistant materials. Botomfeader makes a good point. The debris on the lawn doesn't account for the stuff that couldn't fit through the original hole. Give us the truth or at least well reasoned guesses from someone I can trust.
mizterwizard 10 months ago
Go to *physicsandreason* channel on u tube and listen to a engineer and watch all of his videos cause they are fact and prove NIST wrong. He also proves a national geographic episode wrong were they say thermate cant cut through a beam, Go watch him prove them wrong and show how media is run by the gov cause they lie in that episode. Go to AE911 truth or type it on google and those expert engineers and architects will show you much science evidence.
Headshothorror4488 9 months ago
Then why havent we seen a picture of a plane fly into the Pentagon? Why keep it a secret??
shagster1970 10 months ago
@shagster1970 What are you talking about? I can see a plane in both of the fish eye lens shots. Clearly see the fuselage, the large tail wing, the engine on that side, and the colors is correct with the plane that crashed there.
Swazi4 10 months ago
@Swazi4 Are you even looking at the right shot? Give me a time code of where you can see that?
shagster1970 10 months ago
@shagster1970 Exactly !! That would prove some wrong yet they dont show it cause it may have not happened. All i know is #7 was a demo and wtc and engineers and architects show evidence for this. Half the usa people agree , a pole was taken also thousands of firemen agree and some gov agents. its common sense to me and Many many others in the world. Some people just believe all they hear on tv instead of science evidence
Headshothorror4488 9 months ago
So if the steel columns cut through the plane that hit the Pentagon, why didn't that happen when the planes hit the Towers? The columns were much much larger, and apparently they were severed, but here they were not? Yet they were much smaller than those that made the Towers.
ohgoditsjames94 11 months ago
AT 1:00
8:56 AM
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
DISAPPEARS FROM THE RADAR SCREEN.
so, while a hijacked airplane is on the way to Washington D.C.
and after WTC 1 and 2 have been struck and after being told
"America is under attack" and while people were leaping to their deaths
from WTC 1and 2 ...
former president George W. Bush sat down to read "The Pet Goat"
with a group of elementary school children.
bIZAROsPRMN11 1 year ago
ZERO DISCUSSION OF THE DEMOLITION OF WORLD TRADE CENTER 7
after nearly ONE HOUR of video.
information control equals mind control.
bIZAROsPRMN11 1 year ago
does Home Depot have better security cameras than the Pentagon?
was KJC24 helping those school children read "The Pet Goat"
to George W. Bush while flight 77 was on the way to the Pentagon?
KJC24, could you look in your majic bag of evidence and tell us regular folks
where Joe Citizen can go and see one UNIQUELY serial numbered time change part from ANY of the four aircraft involved in the attack on 9-11-01?
bIZAROsPRMN11 1 year ago
those troublesome wings, WHERE did they go?
could they have become invisible?
[]"In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, ..."
Mete Sozen, professor of structural engineering at Purdue University.
Popular Mechanics - March 2005
[] "Actually, there's considerable evidence of the aircraft outside the E ring. It's just not very visible."
Lee Evey - Pentagon Renovation Manager , 9-15-2001
bIZAROsPRMN11 1 year ago
do you "see" those invisible airplanes.
getchure majic goggles on folks (KJC24 is selling, R U buying?)
[] "... I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on."
GWB 01-05-2002 describing events of the morning of 9-11-01
[] "Actually, there's considerable evidence of the aircraft outside the E ring. It's just not very visible."
Lee Evey - Pentagon Renovation Manager , 9-15-2001
bIZAROsPRMN11 1 year ago
Hmmm, what about the confiscated exterior camera that showed a plane flying over the pentagon while a explosion went off underneath it, while the plane flew overhead.. Wheres that video at?? probably the same place those blackboxes are.
So as we can already see these guys cant properly run a small piece of aluminum into a wall on the first run, Not to mention the other 2 previous tests that seem to exclude any scientific basis or practice.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
There is a huge problem with this analysis. You can't have it both ways. Either the wings entered the building and if they did where are the wing holes. Or the wings broke off and if they did would they be easily seen outside the building?
botomfeader 1 year ago
@botomfeader
It's covered by the majority of other evidence...one little technicality is nothing if it is covered on a wider scale.
SCience rules. Twoofers are fools
AceofDlamonds 10 months ago
Comment removed
DrD0000M 1 year ago
2:17 so if the wings did what Purdue replicated, then wouldn't there be wing holes or some sort of hole where that debris went in?
enjoiwrx 1 year ago
Just waiting for truthers to answer this, if a missile hit the pentagon, how did it swerve to hit 5 light poles and a 20 ton generator wasknock it off its base?
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
@Obelisk2290 Just waiting for deniers to answer these:
How did the plane make it to the pentagon after hitting 5 light poles, leaving no damage on the lawn, and going 500 miles per hour?
How the Hell did this object that hit the pentagon make it through the most protected airspace on the planet, without even a single defensive reaction from the military?
RedBloodReign 1 year ago
@RedBloodReign And a better one: Why is it that the flight recorder information released by NTSB shows that the plane was not only hundreds of feet above the light-poles, but not even on the same trajectory as the light poles?
RedBloodReign 1 year ago
@Obelisk2290 the light poles you speak of were not hit, but were cut and staged, all part of the smoke and mirrors used in an attempt , although poorly done, to support there bs story, look into the taxi drivers story about being paid off by gov. agents.
ittaBIT27 1 year ago
even if the planes were hijack, them terrorist only got those knives on them as weapons. ur telling me a plane full of HUNDREDS of pple couldnt rush them terrorists and fucked them up. its not like they got GUNS. even if the terrorists were like dont move we've got bombs, i would have still rushed them fools. i'd rather have the plane blow up in the air than crashing it into the towers where more lives would be lost.
flexwheelR 1 year ago
@flexwheelR Is not like they knew what was gonna happen
Hectiquin2003 1 year ago
Truthers just don't care about the truth. It's that simple.
Tylonous 1 year ago
... Seriously?
Loose Change says, "wtf, why didn't the wings cause any damage"
This documentary says, "lets shoot a projectile that has no wings and see what it does, and then blow up a bomb like that has anything to do with a missile hitting the object."
This test is shoddy at best. I have no idea what hit the pentagon but this doesn't answer shit.
RedBloodReign 1 year ago
@RedBloodReign the missile is explosive
Ishta5 1 year ago
@Ishta5 That *doesn't* answer why the wings did no damage to the building.
RedBloodReign 1 year ago
The government couldn't cover up a blow job!
soulinite 1 year ago
the burning towers on the 20 dollar bill..
the illuminati pyramid/eye on the dollar..
senior Bush on 11 sept 1991 talking about a N.W.O..and exactly 10 year later.. 9/11 ?..
Need more proof if this was a inside job..?
Not me.
Dutchmeistermusic 2 years ago
come on man stop saying shit like that, its because of dumb comments like that people think those of us searching for the truth are crazy. how about we start by analyzing the physical anomaly of building 7
tehgreatist 2 years ago
@tehgreatist thank you, everyone would like to ignore building 7 and sweep it under the rug with all the other insurmountable evidence showing a planned collapse.
ittaBIT27 1 year ago
@ittaBIT27, Right......Fly two planes into two of the world trader centers, then blow them up with some futuristic demolition, then 9 hours later decide not to fly a plane into WTC7 and just blow it up instead completely avoiding all logic. haha, come on its such a stupid idea.
JLaw012 1 year ago
I, for one, require more proof than just the NWO and 9/11 on our paper currency... I prefer to have a deep intellectual understanding of the subject matter of 9/11 and the New World Order.
Anyone who wants REAL proof of a 9/11 Inside Job, please contact me.
Anyone who wants to have a REAL discussion of the facts and evidence and who was really behind 9/11, please contact me.
NanoThermite911 2 years ago
come on man that is dumb and makes truthers sound like conspiracy theorists
FutureLaugh 1 year ago
@Dutchmeistermusic LOL I hope you are jk
Hectiquin2003 1 year ago
Dylan Avery did loose change, and if I were him, I wouldn't have agreed to do anything unless they also showed me asking the question about building 7!! They just showed some average joe on the street talk about building 7, but didn't ask any questions!!
BULL!!!!
civicminded76 2 years ago
Building 7 has also been thoroughly debunked and proven to NOT be a controlled demolition.
building 7 had SEVERE damage from falling WTC debris and burned hot for 6 hours...dumbkopf
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
Yeah, it was so hot from falling debris and broken coffee makers, Larry Silverstein and co. decided to 'pull' it.
TheInternetG 2 years ago
where? Why didn't the sprinklers work? The fire dept didn't even try to put it out! Why didn't building 5 and 6 fall for the same reason? They took more direct damage from debris and burned longer and hotter, and their steel frame had to be taken down! 7 burned inside out and collapsed in what appears to be a controlled explosion. Other buildings closer to the towers are still there, too much doesn't add up!
It was demolition!
civicminded76 2 years ago
You don't know all the facts. Those other buildings didn't suffer the same damage as bldg 7.
The Fire department had already lost hundreds of NYC fire dept men...so why risk more deaths because bldg 7 was very unstable.
Why would they do a controlled demolition on 7 but not on 5 and 6? they would do a controlled demo on all of them.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
National Geographic spent tons of money and effort to debunk theory's but they can't for 7! There is no good explanation!
They probably figured they wouldn't need to demo 5, &6, but they were still standing after having tons of crap fall on them! YOU ARE PROVING MY POINT! The FD wouldn't need to send people up, why didn't they even try to hose it down? Why didn't the fire suppression system work?
civicminded76 2 years ago
even if building 7 is some miraculous insurance fraud , with a silent invisible explosive (which btw is impossible...)... it would still prove NOTHING about the other buildings.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
What no sprinklers...every building has them..Just decided not to use them...and it has'nt ever been debunked...It was ignored in the 911 commision report all together
toddholladay 2 years ago
The WTC 's sprinkler system's water lines were broken by the impact of the planes...so how could they work if the lines were broken.
Also sprinkler systems are not designed to handle 20,000 gallons of burning jet fuel
Grow a brain!
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
was talking about 7 and every reply does'nt have to end with insults do they?
toddholladay 2 years ago
why don't you watch 9/11 debunked WTC 7 ..it explains that the diesel fuel tanks in the generators caught fire when burning debris from the North Tower landed on thems and destroyed 25% of the lower part of Bldg 7...it also collapsed one of the 3 truss supports of bldg 7....news reports by the BBC clearly indicated that building 7 was starting to lean over...and the fire dept could see that it was leaning over.
It's frustrating when people don't want to look at the evidence objectively
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
ok i will watch it..Thank you
toddholladay 2 years ago
leaning over? and then it leaned back and imploded on itself and collapsed demolition style? ohhhhh yeah that makes sense
tehgreatist 2 years ago
Watch the film on building 7 collapse by debunked...it will explain it all to you about the generators in the basement that caught fire..the structural damage by the North tower falling debris....
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
sprinklers are not going to put out that type of fire anyway. there are buildings that burn down WITH sprinklers, WITHOUT the aid of a jet.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
I just saw this whole thing on cable and I'm calling BS!!! They didn't try to explain Building 7 at all!!!!! Even the video they showed shows flashes of explosions while the building implodes!! There is no way to do that without demolitions!
civicminded76 2 years ago
The worst debunking effort I seen...Kids on utube could have done better.These so called experiments ....Very poor ...
toddholladay 2 years ago
You must be brain dead
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
Ed wow great come back....I'm impressed ...Very well thought out...insightful....I can just picture u with your tongue hanging out pounding out your reply..
toddholladay 2 years ago
wow, you are just completely dumb. The "truthers" had every chance to provide an explantion of their own, and only came up with "yeah, but you didn't try the super duper thermite"
Of course you cannot try something that is made up for the purpose of continuing a dumbass lame detective game with ZERO evidence.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
LOOK AT 1:25 !!!!! in the computer simulation there IS NO TURBINES ON THE WINGS!!!! WHAT DA FUCK??? SUCK MY DICK national geographic.
Lietuvispartizan 2 years ago
Dude nobody is ever going suck your dick, you hear me? You are going to die without ever getting fellatio. Big deal if the model did not have the engines on them.
badgerattoadhall 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Big deal if the model did not have the engines on them. " yes it's a big deal., because the engines are the strongest and heaviest parts of the airplane. The maximum damage would come from the turbines.
Lietuvispartizan 2 years ago
A plane did not hit the pentagon. Whats that, you see multiple pieces of an American Airlines plane and other debis? Move along nothing to see here, especialiy the 5 broken light poles and the 20 ton generator that got lifter off its mooring, move along
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
Why are the wings inside the building in this Purdue simulation. I / we were told the wings evaporated . And on the WTC sim the rear higher wings follow into the same hole as the lower front wings .
reeddog29 2 years ago
who here believes Hani Hanjour actually highjacked that plane, vanished from radar, penetrated the most heavily guarded airspace in the world, and pulled off that spectacular maneuver?
lol. you better watch out, Osama the boogieman is coming to steel all of your freedom. lol. what a joke this piece is.
jeroliver 2 years ago
Why are there no engines under the wings on their computer model? It was a 757 right? I suppose they want me to believe that titanium engines will vaporize on impact, just as they say the wings did. What is even more funny is that the model test they do at the end goes wrong but in a way it went beautifully because it proved that a thin skinned hollow vessel will damage concrete structures despite hitting broad-side. That indicates that the wings alone should have left a mark.
dlucas90 2 years ago
ever see the Osama bin Laden claims he did nuclear attack on nato forces in brussles thats was a fake
and tell me who made it?
o cant wait for your lie
WE made it haha
ya we made a video of Obl saying he did it but there was no attack
so how did we do that?
sidneyoh 2 years ago
and did they use their mind to talk and count down to shut off plane transponder s off at same time
sidneyoh 2 years ago
we both know that you would NEVER have admitted that a plane had hit the towers either if it was not on camera. Get a life.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
yes i would it was found after the building fell and they SHOWED it
pentagon NO video
no plane wow
look just show the plane its easy you can prove me wrong very easy by just showing it but it cant be done
sidneyoh 2 years ago
There is a photo of a plane hitting the building. If you expect large pieces of it, you are a retard. Still waiting on your explanation of what happened, which you seem to feel is strong enough to to discredit the deaths of these victims.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Hey dumbass. They pulled AA wreckage along with victims and hijackers remains OUT of the Pentagon. It was photographed and used as evidence in court against (I forget his name). The lightpoles and generator verify the path that backs up the "official story" and in the video released of the attacks, an object the EXACT same scale, color and shape as an AA flight removes doubt if you were stupid enough to doubt in the first place.
KJC24 2 years ago
show me the pulled AA wreckage from pentagon if it was photographed then you sould be able to show two motors and three landing gears and the metal seat belts
lightpoles and generator verify the path that backs up the "official story" yes but
Eye witnesses said the plane wasnt on that path you can watch them say it on here and if that plane wasnt on that path then it cant hit the poles and make it in building at that angle and what camera show 77 plz link it
sidneyoh 2 years ago
You are insane.
So you must obviously be suggesting that some sort of explosives blew over the light poles and the generator? That's just dumb.
You base all of your beliefs on just 1 or 2 eyewitnesses who are mistaken/lying, against all of the other eye witnesses who backup the "official story".
Go away fool. Real people died in a most horrible way, this isn't a game for you to be having fun playing with conspiracies.
KJC24 2 years ago
You are insane
can you show my 100% that the plane hit them light poles and the generator because ?
and eyewitnesses are
1 guy working at gas station
2 pentagon cops
1 guy by navy annex
4 guys that work at Arlington National Cemetery
1 cab driver saying it was staged
1guy that works in pentagon saying he smelled cordite
1 police chift say no plane there
sidneyoh 2 years ago
and yes Real people died in a most horrible way by someone thats not OBL
and its funny you say you have
AA wreckage from pentagon if it was photographed
and i ask to see it and you dont show you change
so come on show me that plane
sidneyoh 2 years ago
Your google skills fail.
Type "rense pentagon" without quotes, into google, and you'll see testimony and images of unmistakable plane debris.
Or just go to 911myths . com and have your bullshit debunked there.
KJC24 2 years ago
failed?
they're on video showing right where the plane went you can watch it if you like but i know you will not because they dont go with your story
sidneyoh 2 years ago
go to 911myths . com and have your bullshit debunked there
all i can say is HA HA HA HA
sidneyoh 2 years ago
You just ignored the images of the aircraft on there. You did not talk about the expert and witness testimony of debris inside and outside the pentagon.
You also ignore the majory of civilian eye witnesses in which the consensus reveals that a large plane flew into the Pentagon, and instead you vaguely mention a few eye witnesses who are either mistaken or blatant liars.
Speaking of liars, you are one. You are one of the most idiotic twoofers I've spoken to, so I won't waste my time.
KJC24 2 years ago 26
so your saying penagon cops are blatant liars?
and your debris inside and outside the pentagon isnt even a half of the plane and was moved by people going around picking it up with their hands
but for fun lets say it did
the penagon has five missile batteries around it and they send code signals to and from the planes in its air space and if you dont have the right codes to send back your shoot down it dont ask to shoot and fight 77 didnt have them codes because they are not given it
sidneyoh 2 years ago
@KJC24 Hope you are happy living in a lie, well fortunately the satanic elite who own America are going to make another big move that will invovle many deaths 1-2 years from now.
Xendrius 1 year ago
@KJC24 how do they do it? in a manner spookily similar to Holocaust deniers a) deny it. simply refuse to ackowledge the evidence. if this doesnt work, then b) recognise it, but discredit it, say it was planted,or images were doctored etc...doesnt really matter...if all else fails then c) just egnore it and carry on with your deluded, paranoid gobshite.
neilus 6 months ago
@KJC24 lol have you seen the video of a plane hitting the Pentagon? I thought so. stfu.
Rememberthename8 6 months ago
@Rememberthename8 have you seen video of anything else hitting the pentagon, or provide evidence of anything else that hit the pentagon? STFU
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 I repeat. Have you seen a video of a plane hitting the Pentagon, one of the world's most guardest buildings? Exactly. STFU.
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8 "most guardest buildings?" Nice english... And yes I've seen the video of the hit, when a plane is going 600 miles an hour, and the video camera takes a picture one frame of that angle at the rate it did, you're not going to see much. I suppose since you didn't see video of your mom fucking your dad to concieve you, it didn't happen, so I'm not really talking to anyone right now.
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 First off, that's correct English, professor. You have not seen a video of a plane hitting the Pentagon. Stop lying. :) If you did I wouldn't be bickering with you right now, would I? Nice comparison by the way. If they fucked on tape I'd happily show you the sex tape. However, the Pentagon on the other hand... don't feed into the lies, Bruce Wayne. It's like a work of fiction. Do you know what Dick Cheney said when he was informed the plane was coming towards the Pentagon? hmm
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8 "most guardest building" is correct English? The proper English would be "most GUARDED building." Do I know what Cheney said...hmmm no I don't because it's not on video, so if it's not on video, I don't believe it. Do you have the video of what he said in the secret meeting in the bunker?
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8 oh wait, I forgot, I don't have proof that YOU exist because there's no video of it. Nevermind I'm not talking to anyone right now...
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 Scanning post for wit: NONE FOUND. Anyways, back to the topic at hand. What do you know of the conspiracy? Do you know the term Novus Ordo Seclorum, for starters? I'm just wondering sir/ma'am, feel free to not answer.
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8 Scanning post for intelligence...NONE FOUND. Anyone who thinks the words "most guardest" is an acceptable phrase shouldn't be arguing conspiracy theories. And yes I know what "Novus Ordo Seclorum" is, it's Latin for "New Order of the Ages", often mistranslated as "New World Order", and it's the motto of the Great Seal of the United States which was designed in the late 1700's. It's also been on the 1 dollar bill since 1935. What about it?
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 lol oops I thought I put most guarded. I highly doubt that is a mistranslation. New order of the ages means exactly that: a new world order. Especially when the men behind it USE THAT TERM DAILY ON TELEVISION AND THROUGH OTHER MEDIUMS. Speaking of the great seal of the United States and the dollar, how was the federal reserve started, chap? Let's see if you know what various others I've talked to haven't the slightest idea about.
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8
NOVUS means new, young, novel, or renewed.
ORDO means order, row, or series.
SECLORUM means ages, generations, or centuries.
Charles Thompson came up with design for the Great Seal of the United States in 1782, His explanation "On the base of the pyramid the numerical letters MDCCLXXVI (1776)...the date underneath is that of the Declaration of Independence and the words under it signify the beginning of the new American Æra, which commences from that date."
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8 NOVUS means new, young, novel, or renewed.
ORDO means order, row, or series.
SECLORUM means ages, generations, or centuries.
Charles Thompson came up with design for the Great Seal of the United States in 1782, His explanation "On the base of the pyramid the numerical letters MDCCLXXVI (1776)...the date underneath is that of the Declaration of Independence and the words under it signify the beginning of the new American Æra, which commences from that date."
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 Thanks for the breakdown, although you didn't answer one part of the question. How was the Federal Reserve started?
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
@Rememberthename8 who cares how the fedearl reserve was started.
thebatman101069 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 Why do you say that? I think the bank cartel that's not federal that makes our money in this country is rather important, don't you think? We didn't always have a central bank... and the history behind the Federal Reserve's coming into being is probably worth a look.
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
@thebatman101069 Thanks for that. Now I want you to check this out. watch?v=Ptcp07v_w-w I'd rather you skip all the quotes and just go for the video footage with politicians/powerful men using the term 'New World Order.' Everything prior in this argument aside (grammar issues and an argument about latin translation which I really have no interest in continuing because it's equally debatable and I respect your perspective) I would like for you to watch at least 2 parts of that video. Thanks sir..
Rememberthename8 5 months ago
We were asked to watch a film which depicted what would happen in Europe, if Brussels was hit by a nuclear bomb.
Fifty thousand deaths, hundred thousand injured. The reactions of various European governments.
Suddenly, footage of Osama Bin Laden claiming responsibility for a nuclear attack on NATO headquarters comes on screen.
sidneyoh 2 years ago
All members of the parliament, myself included, were rendered speechless.
American experts from the Center for Strategic Studies, were on hand to explain the action on the screen.
Then a parliamentarian finally said: Today we were shown a convincing demonstration of how Osama Bin Laden's image can be completely manipulated. All the Osama's we have seen over the years, may never have existed. Just as a nuclear attack on NATO Headquarters in Brussels has never taken place.
sidneyoh 2 years ago
look up pentagon eye witnesses where they say plane was on diff fight path
sidneyoh 2 years ago
and it didnt post so
we know there was planes that hit WTC.
1.was seen on video 2.plane cutout in side of building and 3.the planes was found in rubble after both building fell and after that HUGE steel melting fire they find huge parts of plane one a side with five to six window holes
and the FDR and eye witnesses dont match and not one video shows it so walmart 10 cameras and pentagon just one HAHA come on and can you show the hazmat clean up report? and where is the tail fin?
sidneyoh 2 years ago
The fact you even ask for an intact tailfin demonstrates your stupidity. If a plane crashes into a reinforced concrete building, there is not going to BE a tailfin. The reason there is no cartoon-like aircraft shape in the building like there was in the WTC, is because it's a reinforced concrete building. Eye witnesses said the wings folded back. Stop ignoring the witness testimony of the majority in favour of a few obviously mistaken ones. That shows your bias right there.
KJC24 2 years ago
sidneyoh 2 years ago
what does the flight path matter? aren't you saying that there was no plane to begin with? why do you take seriously any testimony about the flight path if you are saying that a plane did not hit the pentagon? What happened to the lightpoles if it was not a plane? what about the people that DID see the plane hit the building? I suppose those are immediately discredited by you so that you can live on with your selfish void.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
the plane and human remains of the victims were at the pentagon. Tell me what happened to all of the people from that flight if you REALLY think it wasn't a plane. YOu deserve to have had a family member die in this attack. then YOU could listen to non-scientfic retarded assholes discredit the death of your family member without ANY evidence or explanation of their own. you are a complete scumbag, move on to something else to fill the void.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
the plane and human remains of the victims were at the pentagon.
how do you know this did you pick them up or you just taking someones word and do you have pics marked and tagged like every crime scene is done you dont move anything till its tagged so show it
and there is family members asking for new look into this and yes i would love someone looking into it if i had family member die in this attack and i would not stand for someone hiding the facts
& the plane whet off rader why unload
sidneyoh 2 years ago
what happened to the victims then, you'd better have something solid if you are going to discredit death. planes are not on radar when they are flying that low. your rese
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
what happened to the planes
you tell me that and ill tell you where bodys went remember SOLID
sidneyoh 2 years ago
so they went low giving a tour for 30 min then was like well we better go back up
sidneyoh 2 years ago
you tell me this
missile batteries
why didnt they shot 77 down they dont ask they shoot
by reading codes sent from plane and 77 didnt have right codes being sent they are not giving the code just fighters
so why?
sidneyoh 2 years ago
your grasp of the english language is as poor as your grasp of science.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
haha funny well you must not have anything you attacking just like all debunker
sidneyoh 2 years ago
It is... impossible that a Boeing 757 could enter the Pentagon's air space without being destroyed by one or more of the five missile batteries protecting the building
sidneyoh 2 years ago
says who, you? Sorry, it already did happen, making YOUR theory impossible.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Are these "missile batteries" programmed to shoot down all commercial jets? Maybe that type of attack wasn't anticipated?
If the missile batteries had shot down a commercial airline jet as it was crashing into the pentagon, you would be SCREAMING conspiracy and attempting to fill the void even WORSE that you are now. Stop making an ass of yourself.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496 not anticipated...they were doing war games that day..exactly anticipating this attack..hummm next
toddholladay 2 years ago
wargames? they did war games which included "missile batteries" which automatically shoot down a ... COMMERCIAL JET (non-missile btw). Wouldn't they be called commercial jet batteries? Don't you think that type of device might be a little... dangerous and... just plain dumb?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
look up
Cab driver Lloyd England admits the 911 Pentagon attack was planned
sidneyoh 2 years ago
You twoofers are such dumbasses. It is proven that airliners hit the WTC, so why not the Pentagon? The lightpoles being knocked down and the generator being hit are consistent with the FDR, eye witnesses, passenger corpeses and aircraft debris.
So sad that you will exploit the tragic deaths of innocent people for your own enjoyment in playing with conspiracy theories. Real people died, this is not a game. Get your facts straight, or shut the fuck up.
KJC24 2 years ago