I think you should have added that "Under God" wasn't put into the Pledge until 1956. And even then, it wasn't put in for more reason than to make communism look worse in the eyes of Americans more so than it already was.
@David86095 And if you try that, I'll just block you.
Have you ever considered offering objective, checkable, empirical, physical evidence to prove your claims? Cuz that's the ONLY thing that'll sway me to your side.
@David86095 That's what a humble, harmless and loving Christian says, right? Seriously dude, you need a psychiatrist if you can't understand that if you have to BLINDLY believe in something to accept it, there's something wrong with both, you and the thing itself! And if you can't do nothing but shout about torture, making a hell of other person's life and so on and so forth, then it only proves ME right, because you obviously have nothing valid to say, PE-RI-OD!
Thumbs up. I like this because you ask believers to "share this world" with people who are not exactly the same as they are. Obviously, they are unwilling to do that. They are convinced of their moral superiority, and others' inferiority to conform to their standards. They are not seeking a world of equality, or even tolerance. The only item on their agenda is conversion. Nicely stated, Keight; you are a good spokeswoman. Keep speaking.
@1954phyllis Typicl, always trying to cram your bullshit mythology down everyone's throat. Fundamentalist pigs are the bane of society. You're the reason we went from 1st to 16th in the world, in math and science.
@1954phyllis They can say it if they LIKE...but it should not be IN the official version of the pledge. America was founded on equality, not dominance, and leaving "under god" OUT is about as equal as you can get in a situation like this.
I'd be just as against putting "under NO god" into the pledge in its place; for the government to officially endorse ANY religious position, positive OR negative, is unAmerican and unconstitutional. Period.
@BionicDance Isn'''t it strange how theearly Americans loved God and His word. They even taught the Bible in schools. Yes they loved God. I dont understand how this nation has fallen so far from the God that has blessed them so much. I believe the reason is that they are so wicked that they dont want to hear the truth. Taking Under God out of the pledge is very offensive to me. The reason is I happen to have faith in God like our forefathers did. Nothing you will say will ever change that fact.
@1954phyllis Really? So if someone were able to prove 100% that no god has EVER existed and that the universe is a 100% natural place, you'd still believe ANYWAY? Even if it turned out that there really wasn't EVER a god, you'd still believe? Really?
Doesn't that strike you as just a little bit stupid?
Is there anything ELSE that you'd believe in, even if it were proved otherwise? Elves? Pixies? Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny? Why does god get to be a big ol' exception???
@1954phyllis And incidentally, the early Americans did NOT love god OR his word. You look at the histories of people like Thomas Paine or Benjamin Franklin or George Washington or Thomas Jefferson...most of the were deists AT THE MOST, if not outright atheists.
The United States was NOT founded as a religious nation. At all.
@1954phyllis All of this under god, in god we trust and a LOT of the other BS was added in the 1940s and 1950s. It was anti-communism propaganda. Any mention of ANY religion by the government is a direct violation of the establishment clause.
Don't forget that the early Americans had no legitimate rights to the land, since King James' land grants gave away land that didn't belong to him. The Natives were unjustly persecuted on their own land because the pilgrims wanted to set up illegitimate settlements. There was even a school set up to convert them (i.e., get them to support western interests instead of their own). The plaque on the wall of Matthews Hall at Harvard whitewashes the history, of course.
@1954phyllis Some information for you to think about:
The words "under god" was not in "The Pledge" until 1954! In addition, the original motto of the United States was secular. "E Pluribus Unum" Latin for "One from many" or "One from many parts." It refers to the welding of a single federal state from a group of individual political units -- originally colonies and now states. I actually do research before I make claims or assertions.
Of course the problem is that they genuinely believe that we atheists need saving, and they are willing to go to ridiculous lengths to save us from eternal torment.
(An eternal torment they haven't realized is make-believe). Some times its kinda touching, the rest of the time its just fricken ridiculous.
@theEBKman - Your comment is simply a projection of your own deficient character.
Grow the fuck up already.
Atheists certainly have plenty of good reasons why we *could* be hateful towards religious types, but from what I can tell, most of us are too busy experiencing reality to be bothered with wasting any time on you and your fantasies.
The funny thing is, they'll swear up and down that *they're* the ones being persecuted (because they can't impose with impunity). I think that if they actually got what they wanted, it would turn into their own worst nightmare. It's funny how they usually march to the "smaller government" mantra, unless the government is in their favor...then they're all for it.
@DarkMatter2525 : Persecution is part of the show. They need to feel persecuted because that's their narrative, from Christ to the Martyrs, they have to be the bullied underdogs, not the bullies. Try pointing out to a Christian that the Roman Empire that FELL was a Christian Empire. Most think it feel under Nero. Because that's their narrative: perpetual victimization.
They think something is taken from them because other people don't have to follow what they consider to be "objective" and "universally applicable" standards.
I really, really liked this one, Kate. The message here is fantastic. You rob the religious of their power to overreact here by reeling things in with the idea of sharing. Really nice. Also, way to nail them on what many of them are really upset about: losing that privileged position. This video really rocked.
Excuse me? Did you actually go ape-shit angry and say "tough nuggies"? Damn, Kate. Damn. I don't see any way this doesn't get flagged, but maybe I'm just being melodramatic.
.... i hope ur right,, i keep talking w ppl who dont care, dont think world (or any) change is possible, and would rather not think about any of the freedom and equality issues we face 2day...... so frustrating
@HugNow A child doesnt see anythign wrong with it. YOU see something wrong with it. And when you start telling a child that his or her mommies or daddies are doing bad things, THAT IS WHAT IS DEVATASTINGLY DAMAGING THE CHILD - YOUR POISONOUS MESSAGE. GET IT? YOU. ARE. THE. PROBLEM. Not gay mom's and dad's who love their children. Open your eyes and lets move on into the 21st century!!!!!!!!!!!!
This one was really bad ass. I like the ferocity of the music and your uncharacteristically super serious tone. I really liked the message. A+ all around. I like it so much I only want to compliment in my comment. I have nothing to add. YOu are getting better at these. I've been reviewing your old stuff and its all good, but you are honing your craft and becoming great.
Even when I was a theist I still thought it was unfair that "In God We Trust" was on all the money. I mentioned this to my mom once (I was like 8), and she said something to the effect that it wasn't specifying the Christian God, and that everyone everywhere has some sort of god. Even then I sort of realized that was bullshit. What about those nasty unbelievers our preacher was always going on about?
@HugNow For your point to be valid, we would need to ask orphans if they would rather be adopted by a loving gay couple or remain in the orphanage. And we would also have to assume that such kids actually knew what was best for them. If the gay couple are female, then you would need to ask the child whether it would be better to exist or not. Not a question most kids can answer. Your point is pretty childish actually, and besides, there is plenty of research to show you are wrong.
@HugNow So...basically...a kid who is homeless or an orphan with no one who gives a fuck about them would hate two people of the same gender raising them and feeding them and buying them shit in a loving household simply because they love each other and don't follow a normal stigma. I guess this argument was had several decades ago...when interracial marriages were taboo.
What's funny is that these Bible thumpers will say that they don't want people "telling me how to live".... but they have no problem doing it to others.
@HugNow Maybe they are selfish, but it's not our place to decide. If you remove the right of people to decide for themselves whether they can have and raise children then alternative is state sponsored eugenics. Under such a system only those deemed by the state to have desirable qualities would be able to breed or raise children.
I mean that's all well and good while you are in the "desireable" camp but what if you aren't?
I would think it *vastly* more detrimental to a child's development and future prospects to be raised by partents whose intelligence were as manifestly sub-normal as yours, than by parents who happened to be gay; and I would much sooner, if it came to it, lend my support to a law that would prohibit someone with a 91 IQ from becoming a parent, than someone whose sexual preferences happen to be disapproved by North African Iron age scribes.
@HugNow I agree with Bionic on this. My mother was a country girl and walked around the city bare foot. At school I was teased but i was not traumatised. My older sister was/is this shows different personalities are the important factor. I never cared for others opinions my sister always bends to fit others opinions. She feels shame based on others opinions, I feel shame only for things I do and then only if I deem them wrong. Gay people are not wrong, asian people are not wrong. You are wrong.
@HugNow Well that's kind of like saying that dwarfs should not have children because society is going to be harsh on the kids. You know people will make a kids life living hell if his mum or dad is 3 feet tall. You know that kid is going to be given a rough time by assholes. That's also reality. But you wouldn't say that a dwarf was selfish for wanting a child. "Damn those selfish dwarfs! don't they know the psychological trauma their kids will go through!"
@HugNow Name me one person in this entire world who got to choose who their parents were, or your point is invalid.
And YOU'RE ignoring the reality that your position/solution punishes the gay parents for the prejudices and subsequent actions of others.
Furthermore, the single, solitary way to remove the stigma of ANYTHING is to make it commonplace; we NEED homosexual parents, or there never CAN be acceptance.
taking in god we trust off our money will do something it will make it harder for the rest of us to easily show believers that their god is hiding in our pocket lol.
@HugNow What if I didn't want to be raised by hippies? What if I wish my parents had been Asian? What if I wish I hadn't been adopted?
Kids don't get to choose a LOT of things, and there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER that homosexual parents shouldn't raise kids, ESPECIALLY because of the poor behavior of OTHER PEOPLE.
I'd really love if religion was a completely private thing, but I don't think it can happen while religion exists. I'd be willing to give peaceful coexistence a shot of course if the religious tried it, but people's beliefs will always be influencing their actions. And beliefs that take over a whole worldview, like religions, will always have a major influence while they're spread through the population.
I say we should put 'In God we Trust' on the one dollar bill, 'In Allah we trust' on the five dollar bill, 'in Xenu we trust' on the 10 dollar bill, and 'secular humanism FTW' on the benjamin. That way everyone, or at least most people, are happy!!
@HugNow And before you leap on the "very little" comment..
I mean that it only matters because of how OTHER PEOPLE will treat the kids.
But then kids face harrasment for many things
Drunk, poor, rich, fat, minority, etc parents. should we stop all those people having kids because of the possibility ignorant people will harass them because of it?
@HugNow I brought up safety because you talked about what 'most' kids want. I stated that what most kids want is love and safety
I only pointed out that there are gay parents (and other family types) that are able to give that enviroment, and that there are 'mum and dad' families that do not give that enviroment.
I didn't imply either are more advantaged
If you want me to be specific:
ALL family types can be both good OR bad enviroments for kids. sexuality and number of parents means very little
And I can already smell the emotional and/or factually completely incorrect arguments you will have to bear as "responses". 'Weewee, but having that on my $1 bill makes me feel safe' and the ever so overused 'But America is built on a Christian foundation' ... *burps* scuse me, it's even sickening to just strawman it for the lulz.
@HugNow actually the 'etc' was used to show me refering to other family types.
I did not imply anything about gay being safer. I just pointed out 'there are' families like that, not 'ALL' families or even just 'gay families'. the use of the words 'there are' implies SOME, nothing more.
Please read the words I use carefully and don't twist it to mean things I didn't say
Have you asked any kids that were not raised under a conservative religious framework? Because I have asked the children of gay couples, and I have even seen the question posed to children of poly amorous families. It didn't bother them. Now if you are saying they might get made fun of at school, isn't that a problem with kids being taught to be hateful and cruel?
@HugNow most kids would want a loving, safe enviroment
There are gay/1 parent/etc families with good enviroments, and 'mum&dad' bad ones
would kids still want M&D if it's a bad enviroment?
Loving safe enviroment is what matters, not type of parent(s)
Kids attitudes towards specific kinds of people and families are learned not inate. If a kid says 'mum and dad' is best it's because an adult has taught them that alternatives are worse or because of personal experience of their own good enviroment
Sorry, don't believe in the prophesied apocalypse so I refuse to succumb to threats of it; no ratings today. Too bad though I wanted to give it 6 stars (errrr 6 thumbs up?)
Can i highjack that logic to advocate not teaching childeren about religious believes because they might not want to be religious if they where not indoctrinated from the craddle up?
Religion is kicking and screaming while in its death throes.
Yeah they still have their churches...... Which are businesses, that are always on the sales pitch to gather more believers, and attempting to acquire ten percent of your income.What a great scam.
@HugNow So your saying that there should not be gay marriage, because of the kids they might adopt, might be ridiculed at school because they have gay parents? And how is that a infringement on ones desires? That’s like saying your infringing on a Childs desires by naming them something they get ridiculed for and want to change.
@HugNow There are plenty more things to get ridiculed about in school. kids will latch on to anything. It doesn't matter if they have same sex parents or not. I think the child would be more thrilled to have two people who love and care about them than to be an orphan going through school unridiculed... Oh wait the kid would be an orphan,,, kids get ammo to throw at other kids any way you roll the dice so that whole argument is mute.
@Kargoneth Well, I was going for a double entendre between thrusting your god-values on other people AND fucking them over, coupled with the "In God We Trust" reference...
I'm good with in god we trust on the money. I find it quaint. Not to big on the pledge having it though. btw, there is some kind of graphic thing going wrong at 2:00 - 2:03. Odd shadowing on the right arm.
You seem to forget: Pat Robertson said it countless times that gays and lesbians are causing disasters, so they actually have a reason for NOT allowing those things.
Playing devil's advocate (heh), if parents believe in creation, then they find teaching their children evolution as bad as we find 'teach the controversy'. If they were right, they'd be making fully legitimate complaints.
Just saying, their stupidity lies not in their desire to force other people to believe like them, but for believing bull-honkey. At least on this issue. I bet the same people are often against gay marriage. So, you know, you can still hate them.
awww cheer up bionic. i actually have nothing critical to say about your video this time. it was really good. maybe something good will happen to you.
@BionicDance I like the voice. It's like the famous "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore" scene. It might get the attention of a few Christians.
The "Under God" was only added back in the 50s, I usually omit it when I say the pledge thankfully. And I eagerly wait the day where it's taken out for all.
fundies remeber this when you try to control everyone christian + jew:2% of earth.even if your moderates stand with you(which they wont) you're still fucked
But something IS taken from believers; their control over others to behave/not behave as they subjectively and biasedly see fit/unfit. Yes.. it's ALL a power trip.
Unfortunately titled though, just my opinion! 'Thrust' will turn away the ones who need to hear it the most, especially in the same sentence as God! LOL!
How about "God Botherers! Equality is what you fear!"
i agree. thats all this whole thing is about. most of the religious are in the business of control. its sad though, because in the end it seems as though they do really win:(
Long time watcher, first time commenter (I think). I love your videos... no nonsense, straight to the point, tough **** if you don't like it, message. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is curious as to what drove you to make youtube videos, any chance you might make a future video describing what personally motivated you to make your presence known to the interwebs?
@Griefscar I probably won't make that video because my initial motivation was...not particularly noble. I saw lots of people making vids and getting attention...much as I believe in my message, part of me was just attention-whoring, and also trying to show off my animation skills.
Not that my message isn't completely sincere--it is--but my original motivation was, well...not exactly something to be proud of. :)
@BionicDance Yeah, the points covered in this video are actually the kind that should be common knowledge (and commonly accepted). I will never understand how people can allow themselves to become so narcissistic that they try to force others to do as they do. :/
So fu.. all religions and all curches - you can stil find something you can believe in (and/or the truth) without those.
You can't find the truth or something you really believe in if there are some who are guiding you and showing you bullshit theories (which are the dumbest bs of the whole world if u take christianity as an example)
so.. when are you running for president? because there needs to be someone with a bit of logic in charge. and you would have my vote... unless chuck norris was running, i would vote for him cause i enjoy not being round house kicked in half
@Darkkat255 I'd never get elected president; a multi-racial, atheist, geeky-ass lesbian? That's an uphill battle if I ever saw one!
Further, I'd make a ROTTEN president. Oh, I'd be okay for the first week or so, but then I'd order our bombers to blow the living shit out of Norway or something just for kicks, cuz I was bored. And because Norway is the least offensive country I can think of, and that can't be allowed!
@BionicDance There you go again about Norway being the least offensive country. I remind you again of the Norwegian genocide against the Bjorgenflugian loyalists carried out by Higglesdorffe in the fall of 1948, toward the end of the Norwegian civil war.
Is this just too far in the past to count in your mind as a blight on Norway's history?
@magua73 They were supposed to sound as silly as possible, that's part of the joke. "Fujikawa" could probably pass for a made up Norwegian name to many Americans.
@polymath7 While I was on a trip to the states, I was asked to say something in Norwegian, which I did. Nah! That didn't sound Norwegian to them, they said, which I then reply with the "Fjørdi hørdi nordi!" That's it! they exclaimed, of course it was totally gibberish but for them it sounded like Norwegian. So your Norwegian gibberish names were pretty good imo. :)
When it comes to James Cooper, I must say I didn't read his book, which is a shame, but I enjoyed the movie thou quite a lot :)
@KasparHauser4 Actually, so do I...but organizing atheists has been rightly likened to herding cats; we're WAY too independent-minded to organize properly.
I think you should have added that "Under God" wasn't put into the Pledge until 1956. And even then, it wasn't put in for more reason than to make communism look worse in the eyes of Americans more so than it already was.
HimesInu 4 months ago in playlist Atheism
I prefer the original motto: E pluribus unum. Far more profound than "In god we trust."
Weissnung 7 months ago
Killing strawmen again I see.
ProtoSteward 8 months ago
Wow. You totally summed up my feelings to a tee. Glad to see I'm not alone in my viewpoint out there.
mtszabo 10 months ago
@Allen8625
We sure didn't... Non-denominational minister in a public place. Worked for me.
mtszabo 10 months ago
Cool Vid
realitygameworld2 1 year ago
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David86095 1 year ago
@David86095 And if you try that, I'll just block you.
Have you ever considered offering objective, checkable, empirical, physical evidence to prove your claims? Cuz that's the ONLY thing that'll sway me to your side.
BionicDance 1 year ago 6
@David86095 What sort of attitude is that for a Christian?The least you can do is be respectful.
sai10000 1 year ago
@David86095 That's what a humble, harmless and loving Christian says, right? Seriously dude, you need a psychiatrist if you can't understand that if you have to BLINDLY believe in something to accept it, there's something wrong with both, you and the thing itself! And if you can't do nothing but shout about torture, making a hell of other person's life and so on and so forth, then it only proves ME right, because you obviously have nothing valid to say, PE-RI-OD!
stuchly1 3 months ago in playlist Další videa uživatele BionicDance
Sorry guys. I just read other peoples comments saying exactly the same thing. I had a 'Knee Jerk' reaction to one the foolish religious comments.
freetheworldof 1 year ago
"in god we trust" and "under god" where not there before but a lot of people still ignore that.
MirageScience 1 year ago
Who are the 3 idiots who thumbs downed this?
BionicKing 1 year ago
Thumbs up. I like this because you ask believers to "share this world" with people who are not exactly the same as they are. Obviously, they are unwilling to do that. They are convinced of their moral superiority, and others' inferiority to conform to their standards. They are not seeking a world of equality, or even tolerance. The only item on their agenda is conversion. Nicely stated, Keight; you are a good spokeswoman. Keep speaking.
thereforeithought 1 year ago
B S if Christians right to say Under God in the pledge will be taken away.
1954phyllis 1 year ago
@1954phyllis Typicl, always trying to cram your bullshit mythology down everyone's throat. Fundamentalist pigs are the bane of society. You're the reason we went from 1st to 16th in the world, in math and science.
whiteyvanpeebles 1 year ago
@1954phyllis They can say it if they LIKE...but it should not be IN the official version of the pledge. America was founded on equality, not dominance, and leaving "under god" OUT is about as equal as you can get in a situation like this.
I'd be just as against putting "under NO god" into the pledge in its place; for the government to officially endorse ANY religious position, positive OR negative, is unAmerican and unconstitutional. Period.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Isn'''t it strange how theearly Americans loved God and His word. They even taught the Bible in schools. Yes they loved God. I dont understand how this nation has fallen so far from the God that has blessed them so much. I believe the reason is that they are so wicked that they dont want to hear the truth. Taking Under God out of the pledge is very offensive to me. The reason is I happen to have faith in God like our forefathers did. Nothing you will say will ever change that fact.
1954phyllis 1 year ago
@1954phyllis Really? So if someone were able to prove 100% that no god has EVER existed and that the universe is a 100% natural place, you'd still believe ANYWAY? Even if it turned out that there really wasn't EVER a god, you'd still believe? Really?
Doesn't that strike you as just a little bit stupid?
Is there anything ELSE that you'd believe in, even if it were proved otherwise? Elves? Pixies? Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny? Why does god get to be a big ol' exception???
BionicDance 1 year ago
@1954phyllis And incidentally, the early Americans did NOT love god OR his word. You look at the histories of people like Thomas Paine or Benjamin Franklin or George Washington or Thomas Jefferson...most of the were deists AT THE MOST, if not outright atheists.
The United States was NOT founded as a religious nation. At all.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@1954phyllis All of this under god, in god we trust and a LOT of the other BS was added in the 1940s and 1950s. It was anti-communism propaganda. Any mention of ANY religion by the government is a direct violation of the establishment clause.
UberLogic 1 year ago
@1954phyllis
Don't forget that the early Americans had no legitimate rights to the land, since King James' land grants gave away land that didn't belong to him. The Natives were unjustly persecuted on their own land because the pilgrims wanted to set up illegitimate settlements. There was even a school set up to convert them (i.e., get them to support western interests instead of their own). The plaque on the wall of Matthews Hall at Harvard whitewashes the history, of course.
jaymthegenius 1 year ago
@1954phyllis Some information for you to think about:
The words "under god" was not in "The Pledge" until 1954! In addition, the original motto of the United States was secular. "E Pluribus Unum" Latin for "One from many" or "One from many parts." It refers to the welding of a single federal state from a group of individual political units -- originally colonies and now states. I actually do research before I make claims or assertions.
freetheworldof 1 year ago 2
@1954phyllis Even I know that the US was not founded on religion and I am from the UK
freetheworldof 1 year ago
@BionicDance it,s in their and its staying in their,i hope i never see the day that we have to live in a godless world,praise jesus
liljon71 1 year ago
@liljon71 Maybe someday we'll live in a world where people can spell, punctuate, and capitalize properly. *rolls eyes*
BionicDance 1 year ago
I really wish they would take it off. I feel disgusted any time I touch money.
TheMikeyX 1 year ago
@Nerefar It's this thing I do.
BionicDance 1 year ago
Very good points as usual Kate, Subbed. (and I always rate)
TooferMan 1 year ago
Love your last part there. "Save us all, rape now."
Phelan666 1 year ago
@Phelan666 Er...that was "rate", actually. Heh.
BionicDance 1 year ago
Of course the problem is that they genuinely believe that we atheists need saving, and they are willing to go to ridiculous lengths to save us from eternal torment.
(An eternal torment they haven't realized is make-believe). Some times its kinda touching, the rest of the time its just fricken ridiculous.
SwissTopper 1 year ago
@SwissTopper It's like trying to save someone from something that isn't there!
And they sure can't SHOW US that it's there.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Oh, but they don't have to show us, because they already *know* whats real, and that we are just blind.
Logic doesn't count when you're dealing with crazy people.
SwissTopper 1 year ago
hate hate hate criticize some more hate hate hate hate
thats generally what atheists do all the fuckin time
and we monothestic ppl's have to stand up 4 this bullshit
theEBKman 1 year ago
@theEBKman No, what she said was
You can do what you want, You can do what you want, You can do what you want, just don't try and force your crazy beliefs on others.
There is more than just a subtle difference. Try to pay attention next time.
oscargordon 1 year ago
@theEBKman - Your comment is simply a projection of your own deficient character.
Grow the fuck up already.
Atheists certainly have plenty of good reasons why we *could* be hateful towards religious types, but from what I can tell, most of us are too busy experiencing reality to be bothered with wasting any time on you and your fantasies.
a2zdiy 1 year ago
The funny thing is, they'll swear up and down that *they're* the ones being persecuted (because they can't impose with impunity). I think that if they actually got what they wanted, it would turn into their own worst nightmare. It's funny how they usually march to the "smaller government" mantra, unless the government is in their favor...then they're all for it.
DarkMatter2525 1 year ago 4
@DarkMatter2525 I think it's related to how their mascot was all crucified and stuff; they think being a martyr is a GOOD thing.
...and they revel in persecution, seek it out like masochists.
BionicDance 1 year ago 2
@DarkMatter2525 : Persecution is part of the show. They need to feel persecuted because that's their narrative, from Christ to the Martyrs, they have to be the bullied underdogs, not the bullies. Try pointing out to a Christian that the Roman Empire that FELL was a Christian Empire. Most think it feel under Nero. Because that's their narrative: perpetual victimization.
JShankel 1 year ago
This is one of my Favs from you so far. Well done!
ijitdunn 1 year ago
Hell yeah!
You tell 'em!!!
brengun42 1 year ago
Funny thing I just saw in a Norwegian newspaper:
Kids (both boys and girls) who grow up with two mothers are in fact the most sucsessful of all, both at school and emotionally ;-)
skinnyjohnsen 1 year ago
Most theists(ass wits)have already made it quite clear that they don't want to share!
mythicalhell 1 year ago
i like your new advertising animation ^_^
also i agree this is the same stuff ive been trying to tell others
TheGeckoNinja 1 year ago
In God we trust; everyone else pays cash.
rollsthepaul 1 year ago
I am all for sharing. Sorry for the folly of My followers.
God
lordyahweh777 1 year ago
Amen, Sistah!
wavymavy 1 year ago
They think something is taken from them because other people don't have to follow what they consider to be "objective" and "universally applicable" standards.
PeytonFarquhar1 1 year ago
Excellent!
Celticking36 1 year ago
Fuck yeah, 509 ups and only 1 down!
maverik713 1 year ago
Great video. I think you hit the nail on the head with this one.
drunkenroundtable 1 year ago
Oh no not the apockycrisp! *rate rate rate*
EntinludeX 1 year ago
you said it sister yaaay
PaganTears2010 1 year ago
I really, really liked this one, Kate. The message here is fantastic. You rob the religious of their power to overreact here by reeling things in with the idea of sharing. Really nice. Also, way to nail them on what many of them are really upset about: losing that privileged position. This video really rocked.
memoryhero 1 year ago
another awesome vid, BD. amazing to consistently see this level of quality from you.
doaftheloaf 1 year ago
Excuse me? Did you actually go ape-shit angry and say "tough nuggies"? Damn, Kate. Damn. I don't see any way this doesn't get flagged, but maybe I'm just being melodramatic.
;D
AncientAtheist 1 year ago
@AncientAtheist Actually, I said "tough noogies". Big difference, y'see. ;)
*smirk*
BionicDance 1 year ago
thumbs up! i did my part
.... i hope ur right,, i keep talking w ppl who dont care, dont think world (or any) change is possible, and would rather not think about any of the freedom and equality issues we face 2day...... so frustrating
Poisonfrogg 1 year ago
@HugNow A child doesnt see anythign wrong with it. YOU see something wrong with it. And when you start telling a child that his or her mommies or daddies are doing bad things, THAT IS WHAT IS DEVATASTINGLY DAMAGING THE CHILD - YOUR POISONOUS MESSAGE. GET IT? YOU. ARE. THE. PROBLEM. Not gay mom's and dad's who love their children. Open your eyes and lets move on into the 21st century!!!!!!!!!!!!
perchedeagle2 1 year ago
right on baby!!
shadyvista 1 year ago
This one was really bad ass. I like the ferocity of the music and your uncharacteristically super serious tone. I really liked the message. A+ all around. I like it so much I only want to compliment in my comment. I have nothing to add. YOu are getting better at these. I've been reviewing your old stuff and its all good, but you are honing your craft and becoming great.
perchedeagle2 1 year ago
@perchedeagle2 Aww, shucks. Thanks! :)
That does seem to be the consensus on this video, too; people seem to really dig what I said here.
...which is WEIRD, cuz I made this more or less when I got up this morning. Heh.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance sometimes one is just in the zone:)
perchedeagle2 1 year ago
Even when I was a theist I still thought it was unfair that "In God We Trust" was on all the money. I mentioned this to my mom once (I was like 8), and she said something to the effect that it wasn't specifying the Christian God, and that everyone everywhere has some sort of god. Even then I sort of realized that was bullshit. What about those nasty unbelievers our preacher was always going on about?
nemo3590 1 year ago
@HugNow For your point to be valid, we would need to ask orphans if they would rather be adopted by a loving gay couple or remain in the orphanage. And we would also have to assume that such kids actually knew what was best for them. If the gay couple are female, then you would need to ask the child whether it would be better to exist or not. Not a question most kids can answer. Your point is pretty childish actually, and besides, there is plenty of research to show you are wrong.
mikeporterinmd 1 year ago
@HugNow So...basically...a kid who is homeless or an orphan with no one who gives a fuck about them would hate two people of the same gender raising them and feeding them and buying them shit in a loving household simply because they love each other and don't follow a normal stigma. I guess this argument was had several decades ago...when interracial marriages were taboo.
thismindofmine 1 year ago
"Its equality that you fear", oh I do like that.
ProfessorPEARL 1 year ago 2
@ProfessorPEARL When that bit of phrase popped into my head, I think I came a little. ;)
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
I'm going to become a Hindu, kill myself & try to come back as a woman so we can scissor! Sound reasoning is very sexy!
ProfessorPEARL 1 year ago
@ProfessorPEARL Lemme know how that works out for ya. ;)
BionicDance 1 year ago
@HugNow unpalatable and disgusting.
ethosflux 1 year ago
What's funny is that these Bible thumpers will say that they don't want people "telling me how to live".... but they have no problem doing it to others.
SiriusMined 1 year ago 2
@HugNow Maybe they are selfish, but it's not our place to decide. If you remove the right of people to decide for themselves whether they can have and raise children then alternative is state sponsored eugenics. Under such a system only those deemed by the state to have desirable qualities would be able to breed or raise children.
I mean that's all well and good while you are in the "desireable" camp but what if you aren't?
Beelzeboogie 1 year ago
@HugNow Now please, go hug yourself.
polymath7 1 year ago
@HugNow
I would think it *vastly* more detrimental to a child's development and future prospects to be raised by partents whose intelligence were as manifestly sub-normal as yours, than by parents who happened to be gay; and I would much sooner, if it came to it, lend my support to a law that would prohibit someone with a 91 IQ from becoming a parent, than someone whose sexual preferences happen to be disapproved by North African Iron age scribes.
But I'm sure this strikes you as perverse.
polymath7 1 year ago
@HugNow I agree with Bionic on this. My mother was a country girl and walked around the city bare foot. At school I was teased but i was not traumatised. My older sister was/is this shows different personalities are the important factor. I never cared for others opinions my sister always bends to fit others opinions. She feels shame based on others opinions, I feel shame only for things I do and then only if I deem them wrong. Gay people are not wrong, asian people are not wrong. You are wrong.
adolthitler 1 year ago
@HugNow Well that's kind of like saying that dwarfs should not have children because society is going to be harsh on the kids. You know people will make a kids life living hell if his mum or dad is 3 feet tall. You know that kid is going to be given a rough time by assholes. That's also reality. But you wouldn't say that a dwarf was selfish for wanting a child. "Damn those selfish dwarfs! don't they know the psychological trauma their kids will go through!"
Beelzeboogie 1 year ago
Excellent video! Well said again!
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@HugNow Name me one person in this entire world who got to choose who their parents were, or your point is invalid.
And YOU'RE ignoring the reality that your position/solution punishes the gay parents for the prejudices and subsequent actions of others.
Furthermore, the single, solitary way to remove the stigma of ANYTHING is to make it commonplace; we NEED homosexual parents, or there never CAN be acceptance.
Your position is simply unpalatable.
BionicDance 1 year ago 14
Epic video. Nicely done.
kenzybob 1 year ago
taking in god we trust off our money will do something it will make it harder for the rest of us to easily show believers that their god is hiding in our pocket lol.
wakcedout 1 year ago
@HugNow What if I didn't want to be raised by hippies? What if I wish my parents had been Asian? What if I wish I hadn't been adopted?
Kids don't get to choose a LOT of things, and there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER that homosexual parents shouldn't raise kids, ESPECIALLY because of the poor behavior of OTHER PEOPLE.
BionicDance 1 year ago
I'd really love if religion was a completely private thing, but I don't think it can happen while religion exists. I'd be willing to give peaceful coexistence a shot of course if the religious tried it, but people's beliefs will always be influencing their actions. And beliefs that take over a whole worldview, like religions, will always have a major influence while they're spread through the population.
VulcanFleet 1 year ago
I say we should put 'In God we Trust' on the one dollar bill, 'In Allah we trust' on the five dollar bill, 'in Xenu we trust' on the 10 dollar bill, and 'secular humanism FTW' on the benjamin. That way everyone, or at least most people, are happy!!
Ruzhyo2000 1 year ago
@HugNow And before you leap on the "very little" comment..
I mean that it only matters because of how OTHER PEOPLE will treat the kids.
But then kids face harrasment for many things
Drunk, poor, rich, fat, minority, etc parents. should we stop all those people having kids because of the possibility ignorant people will harass them because of it?
Scarletpooky 1 year ago
@HugNow I brought up safety because you talked about what 'most' kids want. I stated that what most kids want is love and safety
I only pointed out that there are gay parents (and other family types) that are able to give that enviroment, and that there are 'mum and dad' families that do not give that enviroment.
I didn't imply either are more advantaged
If you want me to be specific:
ALL family types can be both good OR bad enviroments for kids. sexuality and number of parents means very little
Scarletpooky 1 year ago
Sandra is scaring me. She's become a fundie !!!!!
And I can already smell the emotional and/or factually completely incorrect arguments you will have to bear as "responses". 'Weewee, but having that on my $1 bill makes me feel safe' and the ever so overused 'But America is built on a Christian foundation' ... *burps* scuse me, it's even sickening to just strawman it for the lulz.
V0r4xiz 1 year ago
I put this vid on my favorites list its that great! Good work BionicDance well said.
KRADRETAM0 1 year ago
@HugNow actually the 'etc' was used to show me refering to other family types.
I did not imply anything about gay being safer. I just pointed out 'there are' families like that, not 'ALL' families or even just 'gay families'. the use of the words 'there are' implies SOME, nothing more.
Please read the words I use carefully and don't twist it to mean things I didn't say
Scarletpooky 1 year ago
@HugNow
Have you asked any kids that were not raised under a conservative religious framework? Because I have asked the children of gay couples, and I have even seen the question posed to children of poly amorous families. It didn't bother them. Now if you are saying they might get made fun of at school, isn't that a problem with kids being taught to be hateful and cruel?
Jaelra 1 year ago
@HugNow most kids would want a loving, safe enviroment
There are gay/1 parent/etc families with good enviroments, and 'mum&dad' bad ones
would kids still want M&D if it's a bad enviroment?
Loving safe enviroment is what matters, not type of parent(s)
Kids attitudes towards specific kinds of people and families are learned not inate. If a kid says 'mum and dad' is best it's because an adult has taught them that alternatives are worse or because of personal experience of their own good enviroment
Scarletpooky 1 year ago
Sorry, don't believe in the prophesied apocalypse so I refuse to succumb to threats of it; no ratings today. Too bad though I wanted to give it 6 stars (errrr 6 thumbs up?)
;-)
Hopeful71 1 year ago
@HugNow
Can i highjack that logic to advocate not teaching childeren about religious believes because they might not want to be religious if they where not indoctrinated from the craddle up?
ryonalionthunder 1 year ago
I love adding H's to trust on dollar bills!
MrJastin 1 year ago
In BionicDance, we trust. All others pay cash;)
bubbamickmac 1 year ago
good points here :) keep it up your vids are awesome!
birdfeeder512 1 year ago
Religion is kicking and screaming while in its death throes.
Yeah they still have their churches...... Which are businesses, that are always on the sales pitch to gather more believers, and attempting to acquire ten percent of your income.What a great scam.
JustinBringit 1 year ago 2
@HugNow So your saying that there should not be gay marriage, because of the kids they might adopt, might be ridiculed at school because they have gay parents? And how is that a infringement on ones desires? That’s like saying your infringing on a Childs desires by naming them something they get ridiculed for and want to change.
wolflogic32 1 year ago
Excellent! Loved the way you worded this.
mikwid 1 year ago
@HugNow There are plenty more things to get ridiculed about in school. kids will latch on to anything. It doesn't matter if they have same sex parents or not. I think the child would be more thrilled to have two people who love and care about them than to be an orphan going through school unridiculed... Oh wait the kid would be an orphan,,, kids get ammo to throw at other kids any way you roll the dice so that whole argument is mute.
Crawdaddy75 1 year ago
Through Science we progress..that's what should be written on the money.
JAEDOGNYC 1 year ago 3
The title doesn't seem as relevant to the topic as I thought it would be... I thought it was about screaming "Oh god!" when having sex...
Kargoneth 1 year ago
@Kargoneth Well, I was going for a double entendre between thrusting your god-values on other people AND fucking them over, coupled with the "In God We Trust" reference...
BionicDance 1 year ago
You sounded sick... You getting a cold? :(
1heersond 1 year ago
@1heersond Actually, I'd more or less just woken up...
BionicDance 1 year ago
I'm good with in god we trust on the money. I find it quaint. Not to big on the pledge having it though. btw, there is some kind of graphic thing going wrong at 2:00 - 2:03. Odd shadowing on the right arm.
sandform 1 year ago
You seem to forget: Pat Robertson said it countless times that gays and lesbians are causing disasters, so they actually have a reason for NOT allowing those things.
x86freak 1 year ago
@x86freak
If Pat Robertson was really afraid of this, he'd take his bigoted ass and move somewhere else...
Kargoneth 1 year ago
@Kargoneth Sadly, for him at least, there are no Xian, facist theocracies. That's his idea of heaven!
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
Playing devil's advocate (heh), if parents believe in creation, then they find teaching their children evolution as bad as we find 'teach the controversy'. If they were right, they'd be making fully legitimate complaints.
Just saying, their stupidity lies not in their desire to force other people to believe like them, but for believing bull-honkey. At least on this issue. I bet the same people are often against gay marriage. So, you know, you can still hate them.
Sines314 1 year ago
awww cheer up bionic. i actually have nothing critical to say about your video this time. it was really good. maybe something good will happen to you.
xerophiLIEs 1 year ago
your voice sounds a little diffrent in this video ... im a little scared
TheDeadApple 1 year ago
@TheDeadApple I haven't made a vid few a few days, and I've been grumpy. It does things to me. :D
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance I like the voice. It's like the famous "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore" scene. It might get the attention of a few Christians.
videoguy604 1 year ago
The "Under God" was only added back in the 50s, I usually omit it when I say the pledge thankfully. And I eagerly wait the day where it's taken out for all.
Alimistar 1 year ago
Rockin as always :D
Samakain 1 year ago
ども ありがと ございます ビオニクダンセ。
sofiadragon1979 1 year ago
OH YES! This is a GOOD VIDEO! It needs 100 million hits!
videoguy604 1 year ago
@videoguy604 I'd be okay with that! :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
Excellently said BD! Thumbs up.
dominictemple 1 year ago
I always take a pen and slash "In God We Trust" on my dollar bills.
amorphousguy 1 year ago
excellent. featuring this.
gothatfunk 1 year ago
@gothatfunk Way-hey! Thanks, GTF! :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
fundies remeber this when you try to control everyone christian + jew:2% of earth.even if your moderates stand with you(which they wont) you're still fucked
darthslain 1 year ago
Once again another great video Bionic Dance. Great to hear from you.
0LunarEclipse0 1 year ago
applause!
peggo94 1 year ago
Let's just go ahead and take the churches, they can have the ink on the money and their closets...
AnneOnAMoose 1 year ago
This sounds like something I would say ^_^
PinkProgram 1 year ago
Right fucking on!
Vogter2100 1 year ago
But something IS taken from believers; their control over others to behave/not behave as they subjectively and biasedly see fit/unfit. Yes.. it's ALL a power trip.
newexperiment 1 year ago
I like the 3D atheist XD
She's cute!
anonymityismyname 1 year ago
mm religious ppl r assholes.
theevilnerd666 1 year ago
"In God We Trust" on money can be remedied with a cheap sharpie. I mark out all money I use.
isegoria1 1 year ago
Consequences of gay marriage: Gays marry
A lot of people don't seem to understand that.
volbla 1 year ago
Secularism is a win win situation
allianceofdemons 1 year ago 8
Love it! This one's going right into the breech!
Unfortunately titled though, just my opinion! 'Thrust' will turn away the ones who need to hear it the most, especially in the same sentence as God! LOL!
How about "God Botherers! Equality is what you fear!"
SecularResponse 1 year ago
@SecularResponse Naw, I LIKE the title. It makes me giggle. :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
i agree. thats all this whole thing is about. most of the religious are in the business of control. its sad though, because in the end it seems as though they do really win:(
allisonstar1231 1 year ago
Is that planet run by BP?
samsroomie 1 year ago
@samsroomie
lol
VeryEvilPettingZoo 1 year ago
"There can be but little liberty on earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven" Robert G. Ingersoll
arizonaviking 1 year ago
Long time watcher, first time commenter (I think). I love your videos... no nonsense, straight to the point, tough **** if you don't like it, message. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is curious as to what drove you to make youtube videos, any chance you might make a future video describing what personally motivated you to make your presence known to the interwebs?
Griefscar 1 year ago
@Griefscar I probably won't make that video because my initial motivation was...not particularly noble. I saw lots of people making vids and getting attention...much as I believe in my message, part of me was just attention-whoring, and also trying to show off my animation skills.
Not that my message isn't completely sincere--it is--but my original motivation was, well...not exactly something to be proud of. :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
I understand. Do you have any other geeky hobbies other than your comic? If so, do you have any plans to make videos concerning them?
Griefscar 1 year ago
@Griefscar I have other geeky hobbies, but no real plans to make vids about 'em. Not really.
But we'll see.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Yeah, the points covered in this video are actually the kind that should be common knowledge (and commonly accepted). I will never understand how people can allow themselves to become so narcissistic that they try to force others to do as they do. :/
Aridcreaturehere 1 year ago
So fu.. all religions and all curches - you can stil find something you can believe in (and/or the truth) without those.
You can't find the truth or something you really believe in if there are some who are guiding you and showing you bullshit theories (which are the dumbest bs of the whole world if u take christianity as an example)
Robsshot 1 year ago
cross that shit out with a sharpie-that's what i do.
superextremelaser 1 year ago
you're a lesbian, right? I think i heard you saying in a video that you're a lesbian. im asking because im not sure I remember it right..
megaton666 1 year ago
@megaton666 You remember correctly.
BionicDance 1 year ago
so.. when are you running for president? because there needs to be someone with a bit of logic in charge. and you would have my vote... unless chuck norris was running, i would vote for him cause i enjoy not being round house kicked in half
Darkkat255 1 year ago
@Darkkat255 I'd never get elected president; a multi-racial, atheist, geeky-ass lesbian? That's an uphill battle if I ever saw one!
Further, I'd make a ROTTEN president. Oh, I'd be okay for the first week or so, but then I'd order our bombers to blow the living shit out of Norway or something just for kicks, cuz I was bored. And because Norway is the least offensive country I can think of, and that can't be allowed!
Yeah, I'd be a terrible president. ;)
Thanks for watching!
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
Cheer up Kate! You still could make it an admiral of the Galactic Fleet...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@BionicDance There you go again about Norway being the least offensive country. I remind you again of the Norwegian genocide against the Bjorgenflugian loyalists carried out by Higglesdorffe in the fall of 1948, toward the end of the Norwegian civil war.
Is this just too far in the past to count in your mind as a blight on Norway's history?
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 I said that Norway is the LEAST offensive country I can think of, not that it's 100% not offensive, you silly monkey! :D
BionicDance 1 year ago 3
@BionicDance I was pulling your leg. Once in a while I like to post utter bullshit just to see how long it will take for someone to call me on it
Please tell me you knew there was no Norwegian civil war? :-)
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 Well, DUH. Even if I didn't know for sure, the name "Bjorgenflugian" was a heck of a clue. :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
Homer Simpson: "In case you couldn't tell, Marge, I was being SARCASTIC".
Marge: (rolling eyes) "Well, DUH".
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 "Bjorgenflugian", "Higglesdorffe", oh dear! Is that what Norwegian made up names sounds like to Americans? :-P
magua73 1 year ago
@magua73 They were supposed to sound as silly as possible, that's part of the joke. "Fujikawa" could probably pass for a made up Norwegian name to many Americans.
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 I know, I thought they were pretty good and funny! :)
magua73 1 year ago
@magua73 'Magua' is about as far from anything scandinavian as 'Chingachgook'.
I take it you're a fan of James Fenimore Cooper?
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 While I was on a trip to the states, I was asked to say something in Norwegian, which I did. Nah! That didn't sound Norwegian to them, they said, which I then reply with the "Fjørdi hørdi nordi!" That's it! they exclaimed, of course it was totally gibberish but for them it sounded like Norwegian. So your Norwegian gibberish names were pretty good imo. :)
When it comes to James Cooper, I must say I didn't read his book, which is a shame, but I enjoyed the movie thou quite a lot :)
magua73 1 year ago
@polymath7 Those names are so German-esque and not Norwegian-esque. wtf?
memoryhero 1 year ago
No one wants to take anybody's milk money. That could make a pretty good title. Though yours is definitely better, if not a little creepy.
GoatOfTheMountains 1 year ago
@GoatOfTheMountains I like it BECAUSE it''s creepy. ;)
BionicDance 1 year ago
I love the emotion behind this video. I just wish we were as together and committed as you make us out to be
KasparHauser4 1 year ago
@KasparHauser4 Actually, so do I...but organizing atheists has been rightly likened to herding cats; we're WAY too independent-minded to organize properly.
Thanks for watching! :)
BionicDance 1 year ago