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It's agreed, fact that one needs these songwriting tools and strategy in terms to enhance what they do by being counscious of the whole process. What i cannot relate to is the mood: the flavour/mood of a beautiful, well-educated, 'middleclass' woman, and this dull mood i feel doesn't come from the abovementioned social status, it comes from what such a songwriter aspires for: comfort, vacations, wine--nothing wild, all tamed, bla bla.It can be felt inANY song by such auth. no matter how crafted
This is the best lesson on songwriting I have found on youtube.com so far. It's obvious this lady understand song structure. I approach screenwriting in a very structure orientated way, so this is how I would prefer to approach songwriting. I'm just learning to play guitar, but I'd like to write some songs once I feel comfortable enough playing where I can make up some simple melodies and riffs. If anyone knows of a better songwriting instructor (free is best), please let me know.
I'm amazed at the amount of ignorant comments. People don't appear to realize that songwriting is a craft as well as an art.
Not only craft can be taught but she is an excellent teacher, and the techniques that she is sharing are pure gold - if you have the ears to receive it.
She only talked you through a song that she had already written? Am I wrong in thinking that this is not really songwriting? It's just explaining an idea that already came to fruition. And for those who didn't understand, Ignore all the big musical words. These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural.
She only talked you through a song that she had already written? Am I wrong in thinking that this is not really songwriting? It's just explaining an idea that already came to fruition. And for those who didn't understand, Ignore all the big musical words. These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural.
She only talked you through a song that she had already written? Am I wrong in thinking that this is not really songwriting? It's just explaining an idea that already came to fruition. And for those who didn't understand, Ignore all the big musical words. These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural.
@StickItToTheMan2012 i also like to forget all theory, scales chords and just let real music come out me, based purely on amazing, complex, intelligent melodies (as far as i'm able). what i'm trying to say is, just listen to whats in your mind and then translate it on to your instrument. i'm sure everyone gets what i'm saying, bye
Hey Nice to hear your doing what i do, Sadly i gave up for a short time vocal lessons after 4 years and songwriting. Im back and have completed 14 songs in total 2 which you can hear on my channel. This isn't to steal people from here but just a thought on what you all think abou the singing technique and production, and lyrics. The Song Dont look back took 4 hrs to write from scratch to end. hope you all enjoy
i think you shouldnt think about this stuff too much.. granted, a little bit of theory is good though, but you shouldn't be thinking about it while your composing. The creative process can be very quick
Yes Pop Culture, Enter Sandman WAS indeed a Pop- oriented song.
Wanna know how i know?
Because Hetfield wrote it out with completely different, happier lyrics, and he said he thought "This song has such a good pop melody, im going to make the lyrics much darker."
And he did.
For Songwriting and Rock Melody lessons and more info like that, check out my channel!
@jimiydoorshamelech thanks a lot!!! I could use all the help I could get because Im an aspiring songwriter myself for artists in the Pop & Rock genres
dude music is music its all vibrating air.......give it a break man cuz guess what! being stubborn like that is getting you FUCKING NOWHERE! have a nice day!
Hey Somor98, i guess working on scales is too boooring for you too ... such brainless ... well, everything music ...
These are tools, genius. If you put in the work they actually become part of your non cognitive "artistic" vocabulary. But since you are busy creating high art, I'm sure you won't have time ...
Nadia Boulange' says you need to have a form and a technique to put within it. It doesn't have to be a traditional form or traditional technique but it better be something and not junior high school delusions of just doing anything random that you want.
people who say 'I don't need to know this' are just people who heard the discography of only 1 artist and don't have a mind or a willpower to learn more about the secrets of music. Even famous artists write crap songs ,they just show their best ones,and even then,there are a lot of crap ones. Understanding how to develop a motive is an ESSENTIAL skill for a musician,and it's what separates the pro from the hobbyst
Thanks for this... I went to your web site and favored it. I also bought some of your tracks on itunes, I really love the song you are doing, the recorded version is excellent. I'm a music fan even more so than a budding writer.. So you have yourself a new fan!!
great lesson, beautiful voice, i was wondering if you would be so kind as to take a listen to my song and critique it, you can find it at myspace/alteredseed you can mail me there or leave a comment with what you think, thanks
trikespotter how you gonna dog somebody for giving back a little and trying to help other ppl? yes from the heart cuz SONGS NEED FEEL most important, however these tools will aid ppl to express those feelings to others through the art, so go hate on somebody else. thanks
awesome and very inspiring... thank you... and as for the smart ones posting negativities; research and factual information support criticisms . if you look at her website you'll see who's actually cut her songs. lol. and as for those who take lessons. wow, i guess you've never heard of john mayer or melissa ethridge who both went to berklee. john mayer actually said he wrote some of his first song in his first semester of the songwriting course. haha, this is blunt honesty...
Ok, so maybe I was a bit blunt. Each to their own I suppose. You always need a bit of theory just to get the ball rolling. Actually using the Billboard Top 100 as a reference was a really bad choice coz I don't care much for commercial music and I'm not even from the US. :D Just thought it was a suitable comparison at the time. In the music biz myself, but I'm just a stubborn fool who believes in original talent more so than "by the book" stuff. No disrespect intended. Keep up the good work! :D
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Those who can't do.... teach.
And those who can't teach.... teach gym.
(Jack Black - School Of Rock)
Musicians are artists. You think Picasso took lessons? (ok maybe a little) From the heart people, not the "Songwriting for Dummies" book. If she's so good, then why don't I hear her on Billboard Top 100? Sorry. Blunt honesty. :D She can still sing and play guitar though quite well, but who the hell can't these days? :D
no dude, it's called 'talent' and theories help these talents to improve. don't you hear those billboard musicians improve over the time? that's because they learned time to time. but I agree with jack black's quote :D
Your skepticism is a good thing However, there are tools for songwriting that can be learned to improve our craft. Those tools don't need to replace our original process, but can offer flexibility and growth. When those tools combine with our inspiration, that's when magic can really happen. If you're looking for raw art, look elsewhere than Billboard top 100. Just because you asked, you will find some of my songs there as well. Search for a process that works for you if this isn't it.
@andreastolpe heya-can i thank you for poasting this vid
iv written some great material and came top 6 in my agegroup (14-16) for make it break it awards :D (an international british songwriting competition)
i agree with you in some ways. This girl is good and has writing techniques but what makes an artist an artist is making his own stuffs and style. Musicians study how to play instruments and explore them by themselves and experiment by doing something new..i love School of Rock too!!! This girl should go out there play her own songs even though some artist already sang those.
Wow! Not always I get someone to even half agree with my point of view. BTW, aren't you that girl who has the song Sana? I heard that. Love the production on it. Rock, without actually being rock. :D
Only those who can do can teach e.i. Andres Segovia's Masterclass, Kurt Vonnegut's/E.B. White's/ Frank Lloyd Wright's Collegiate History. There is a curve in education just like everywhere else in the world. Just because you had a subpar gym teacher doesn't mean you can't learn a thing or two from this woman.
Bach, Mozart and Beethoven all taught music. Picasso was rigorously trained by his father, a professor of fine art and a painter himself, from the age of 7. He studied formally for about 10 years.
All great, original creative artists spend many years of hard work acquiring the skills they need to express themselves to a standard they find acceptable.
Blunt honesty:? Try to find a topic you're not pitifully ignorant about.
@DukeIrritable And you are a bounder, a cad, and an irreputable black-guard. You obviously didn't read my post properly, then the following apology post. Speak about old news already. No need to resort to petty name-calling though. At least I didn't lower myself to that status of ignorance. I just voiced an opinion at the time. Pah! Shame on you!
@DukeIrritable You're a twat, dude. Is joining youtube the only reason you became a member as of yesterday to begin a slagging match? "That you're best comeback", and "Deal with it"?!! Are you for real? Is there a nuclear plant near your billabong or something? Btw, being able to recite information from Wikipedia doesn't constitute as you having any intelligence whatsoever. Good luck on your "walkabout", shitkicker.
@DukeIrritable Well, what can I say, Twinkle Toes? You've pretty much got my number. I don't by any chance know you personally, do I? Nah, the people I'm associated with are pretty much on the same level of ignorance as myself, and nowhere near the "superior intelligence" that you display. I'd say your judgement of me is probably somewhat based upon your own standards though. There are however two points which I feel make us differ slightly from one another.
@DukeIrritable The first is that I didn't have to create an account out of cowardice to possibly hide my original youtube identity in order to get my point across. And the second would be that I'm less hateful than you to have to instantly resort to name-calling. The only thing I can suggest is that you go out and get laid for once in your life.
@DukeIrritable Btw, your Gold Star is in the post. Treasure it next to your Wizard of Oz "Scarecrow" college diploma, for I think you most certainly deserve all that comes your way, with sugar on top. If I only had a brain.... Oh look!... A butterfly!...... And one final point though "Genius", look at your repetition of my "joining youtube" quote, then read again the full sentence which I actually did write. And you do realise I did mean "afoot" and not "a foot" before, right? You are a hoot!
@DukeIrritable So, you're now telling us that you're happy to see someone with a smug ego, crushed? And I always thought to be a successful artist in 'POPULAR CULTURE MUSIC' it was important to have a ego. Without that cocky confidence, the budding artist may as well give up before they even begin their career in 'POPULAR CULTURE MUSIC'.
@DukeIrritable As for my ego, I'm sorry to say you are far from destroying it. I can only prove this by saying that without my replies to your posts, I think your day would be less eventful. And your insults, like water off a duck's back. But, I'm always game for a bit of sport. I reckon you're going to miss me. The difference between you and me though, is that I know and accept I'm a turd. (And btw, I think your dictionary is 'broken'. You used 'narcissist[ic]' twice in your ramblings) G'luck!
@DukeIrritable Yeah, I get hysterical.... with laughter! Which planet are you from that relishes in thinking that you wish for people to suffer more than yourself? Go out, get laid, enjoy yourself. It'll solve a lot of your problems. I am addressing a girl btw, aren't I? (despite the whole "Duke" pseudonym) If not, you should be... I'm sure I know you though. Didn't I push a bag of chips in your face about 10 years ago? I can't wait to hear an answer from that statement. And Andrea also. lol...
@Artyfartyify So I've been told already. And to prove "you're" correct in "you're" assumptions, you should have written, " I think YOU'RE a twat". Way to go, Trigger. Be constructive.
@Artyfartyify Fair play to you dude. I was once a teenager also you know. You'll grow out of it though. lol... Good luck in the music biz. Remember one thing though.... Don't f♫ck with people on the way up, coz you'll only just meet them on the way back down again. (Ozzy Osbourne quote... not mine) So be careful who you call a twat in future also. You might just need them to produce your hit single.... if ever. Take this as constructive criticism. And take it like a man. Enough bitchin already.
@Artyfartyify Well, you're right there about youtube. It certainly has a knack of making people look like a tube. Myself included. lol... No harm done. Stick at it, and don't let the bastards grind you down. :)
@trikespotter Actually, that quote was first found in a famous Woody Allen film which was produced when Jack Black was in diapers...lol. You'd be surprised how often and to what extent successful artists study their craft. It's usually those who are creatively blocked who perpetuate the notion that "you either got it or you don't" and that "true artists don't need to study or work at it". The whole process requires a great deal of work, technical, and spiritual. And the work never ends .
@izaacmusic1 Which Woody Allen film? Was it post Annie Hall? I stopped watching then coz the humour was way too anal. It still sounds best from the goofy style of JB though. I can imagine it being a Woody Allen line alright, but never have I heard it.. Take the Money And Run? Bananas? Sleeper? Annie Hall? At least you didn't outrightly swear at me, so kudos to you for understanding of opinions, and you have a good point of how artists need to continually work at progressing. I could go on... but
@trikespotter Annie Hall in the opening scene when they are looking at his early school years. It's a pretty funny scene. Hahah...why would I swear at you, you didn't say anything offensive.
@izaacmusic1 Sheeks! I can't remember that. It's been a few years alright. When I think of Annie Hall, all I can picture at the moment is the dinner preparation scene. lol... Think it's about time I grabbed myself a copy again. - That's what I thought also about the 'not saying anything offensive', but it didn't stop some other eejits from resorting to immediate name calling. Emotionally unstable cats. lol...
Great! Nice talk on melody building. A request: Include some graphics of the notated examples. You could screen-grab from your music writing program and put it in iPhoto (if you're mac) and import those into iMovie. Windows, I'm not certain, but the program you're using should accomodate this task. Nicely done--I'm subscribing!
this is disturbing because i had to replay 0:00-5:00 about 15 times to *try* to grasp how you devised those melodic phrases and transitions. while i think the point you are trying to make is clear, i feel what you have done with just a few notes is extremely complicated. lol.
thankyou : ) it was soo helpful .. ive been trying to write a goood song for agess! well ive wrote one quite good one but i couldnt get a good tune to go with it. but now ive found one ! thanks! x keep posting !
Whats your website?
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Thanks a lot Andrea! Really appreciate your effort and work. You are awesome!
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sc6977 5 months ago
This is definitely not for beginners as the title says,,too syncopated
nowstick 6 months ago
very attractive
VHrules78 6 months ago
motique?
TheMusicrox5 7 months ago
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That word is motif. I sure liked Andrea's lesson. ... Frank
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jimiydoorshamelech 3 months ago
nice, thank you :)
ZeliZeleny 8 months ago
I've been writing songs for about 5 years but never thought about which beat the phrasing started on. Great lesson. Thank you.
paullie6719 9 months ago
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
moom1000 9 months ago
She says ''Da" like a Russian :P
britty280292 10 months ago
111 likes / 11 dislikes? that's awesome.
EuphoriaMusicSession 11 months ago
So glad I seen this. Thanks
jamupjoey 1 year ago
Wonderful lesson! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
EJxosunshine 1 year ago
u luk pretty like heaven....nice lesson too...
mulholland1985 1 year ago
It's agreed, fact that one needs these songwriting tools and strategy in terms to enhance what they do by being counscious of the whole process. What i cannot relate to is the mood: the flavour/mood of a beautiful, well-educated, 'middleclass' woman, and this dull mood i feel doesn't come from the abovementioned social status, it comes from what such a songwriter aspires for: comfort, vacations, wine--nothing wild, all tamed, bla bla.It can be felt inANY song by such auth. no matter how crafted
hallobaaaby 1 year ago
I'm liking your videol! Check out mine...if you like music and comedy this is a must!
speckyrecordsmusic 1 year ago
This is the best lesson on songwriting I have found on youtube.com so far. It's obvious this lady understand song structure. I approach screenwriting in a very structure orientated way, so this is how I would prefer to approach songwriting. I'm just learning to play guitar, but I'd like to write some songs once I feel comfortable enough playing where I can make up some simple melodies and riffs. If anyone knows of a better songwriting instructor (free is best), please let me know.
razerfish 1 year ago
@razerfish
You should try the Let's Write Some Music Dawg Blog. It's comprehensive, and free.
danTES8011 11 months ago
Great video! The lessons are so well laid out that even a newbie like me can follow and understand!
Here is a website where you can write your own song to ready made backing tracks and keep 100 percent of the rights.
music4writers 1 year ago
what chords are you using, it sounds really cool
SamRmusic 1 year ago
Thank you Andrea for your help, sincerly.
shawntoon1972 1 year ago
Still posting, you pitiful wanker?
No matter how you wriggle and dodge, your original condescending, ignorant, post stays at the top of the talkback, shining like an open sore.
Face it: you posted arrogant tripe when you sneered at Andrea's video. Now you keep digging yourself deeper as you try to justify it
It's sad and funny that your preening vanity just won't let you stop posting.
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable Eh... now which pitiful wanker would you be talking about? Is this relevant to the feed?
trikespotter 1 year ago
im guessing people who make fun of this video want to learn how to songwrite too .... what did you not look up songwriting lessons? ya dumb ass
KaylaaMae 1 year ago
I'm amazed at the amount of ignorant comments. People don't appear to realize that songwriting is a craft as well as an art.
Not only craft can be taught but she is an excellent teacher, and the techniques that she is sharing are pure gold - if you have the ears to receive it.
bbagginz 1 year ago
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She only talked you through a song that she had already written? Am I wrong in thinking that this is not really songwriting? It's just explaining an idea that already came to fruition. And for those who didn't understand, Ignore all the big musical words. These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural.
EleasDubh 1 year ago
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She only talked you through a song that she had already written? Am I wrong in thinking that this is not really songwriting? It's just explaining an idea that already came to fruition. And for those who didn't understand, Ignore all the big musical words. These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural.
EleasDubh 1 year ago
She only talked you through a song that she had already written? Am I wrong in thinking that this is not really songwriting? It's just explaining an idea that already came to fruition. And for those who didn't understand, Ignore all the big musical words. These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural.
EleasDubh 1 year ago
@EleasDubh "These things come through real feeling and practice of technique. Play your own way, don't copy hers, or it won't sound natural."
You've got one supporter here. Looks like now that we're a couple of eejits. 9 short of a full team. lol...
trikespotter 1 year ago
Sorry, I fell asleep during the intro.
TreyRoque 1 year ago
i think its pretty funny that trikespotter is talking shit on you when he obviously was watching your video haha
zacaryyracaz 1 year ago
@zacaryyracaz I got it sent to me to view and I got as far as the first minute. hahaha
trikespotter 1 year ago
I love youtube for videos like this.. She's the best.. Simple and it makes sense in pop music.. ( listens to Depeche Mode)
mpresev 1 year ago
@ ngholden - hahaha.. where have you been the past year plus?
trikespotter 1 year ago
I just love you Andrea! I have your popular lyric writing book and it has helped me a lot.
smiles2322 1 year ago
EXCELLENT, THANKS!...Now where's that website...
lyricmaster007 2 years ago
Brilliant thanks!
CityLights2009 2 years ago
Excellent info, thanks
bbagginz 2 years ago
Thanks so much! I play the violin and i am currently attempting to teach myself to play the piano.....wish me luck haha!
xXxiPodSingerxXx 2 years ago
Thanks for the great advice. helped a ton.
tolleck 2 years ago
$40, 000 Berkly tuition and you get DE DA DA DA. WOW!
Willyboy933 2 years ago
@Willyboy933 those da da da's are only the melody, you have to learn chordal and modal theory, and you have to write good lyrics
TheRandomDestruction 2 years ago
I do?
Willyboy933 2 years ago
@Willyboy933 lol, only if you wanna write songs
TheRandomDestruction 2 years ago
you could watch this 9 minute video or just take a scale and get funky with it for a few minutes and have that be your song
StickItToTheMan2012 2 years ago
@StickItToTheMan2012 i also like to forget all theory, scales chords and just let real music come out me, based purely on amazing, complex, intelligent melodies (as far as i'm able). what i'm trying to say is, just listen to whats in your mind and then translate it on to your instrument. i'm sure everyone gets what i'm saying, bye
TheRandomDestruction 2 years ago
Hey Nice to hear your doing what i do, Sadly i gave up for a short time vocal lessons after 4 years and songwriting. Im back and have completed 14 songs in total 2 which you can hear on my channel. This isn't to steal people from here but just a thought on what you all think abou the singing technique and production, and lyrics. The Song Dont look back took 4 hrs to write from scratch to end. hope you all enjoy
Liquadia 2 years ago
i think you shouldnt think about this stuff too much.. granted, a little bit of theory is good though, but you shouldn't be thinking about it while your composing. The creative process can be very quick
utubenicholas 2 years ago
its impossible to write songs nowadays because all the ideas and words are taken
300MUSIC 2 years ago
@300MUSIC not all ideas but nearly all ideas... i think that's true
Frunk25789 2 years ago
i dont think this applies to only pop music. think about enter sandman. It uses pretty much all of the things she talks about.
Dont say that sandman is pop or i will hurt you.
chucknorrisrhk5 2 years ago 8
Yes, yes let us ALL take a moment to think about Enter Sandman. C'mon people... THINK!!!!
;]
dankw90 2 years ago
sandman is pop lol
landy1727 2 years ago
@chucknorrisrhk5 Sandman IS pop. Metallica sold out when Cliff died, and they then didn't have someone solid enough to keep Ulrich in his place.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@chucknorrisrhk5 ''Enter Sandman'' is not a pop-oriented song, but it did do well in the Pop charts LOL
PopCulture20 10 months ago
@PopCulture20
Yes Pop Culture, Enter Sandman WAS indeed a Pop- oriented song.
Wanna know how i know?
Because Hetfield wrote it out with completely different, happier lyrics, and he said he thought "This song has such a good pop melody, im going to make the lyrics much darker."
And he did.
For Songwriting and Rock Melody lessons and more info like that, check out my channel!
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jimiydoorshamelech 3 months ago
@jimiydoorshamelech thanks a lot!!! I could use all the help I could get because Im an aspiring songwriter myself for artists in the Pop & Rock genres
PopCulture20 3 months ago
@chucknorrisrhk5 sandman is pop dude
pop isnt a bad word. it just means popular.
MegaSissylala 6 months ago 2
@MegaSissylala thumbs up! (I actually thumbed up your comment but also wanted to write it down..lol)
thelastlaughful 5 months ago
@chucknorrisrhk5 Sandman WAS pop. Pop stands for popular. Enter Sandman was a part of popular music culture. Please dont hurt me!
garlandgay 6 months ago
does this apply to all types of music cause im a up and coming songwriter but i write to hip hop music thanks in advance
reapakid 2 years ago
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Fuck you fucking bastard!
Fuck Pop!
Long live METAL!
GOHI11101995 2 years ago
dude music is music its all vibrating air.......give it a break man cuz guess what! being stubborn like that is getting you FUCKING NOWHERE! have a nice day!
idrumalot555 2 years ago
Songwriting is everywhere the same :P
Fag
HotRot89 2 years ago
Absolutely great lesson, thanks for the tips
tomjanekwells 2 years ago
Many of these comments remind me of the old joke: "How many guitarists does it take to change a lightbulb?"
Answer: "100. One to change the lightbulb and 99 to stand around and say 'I can do it better than that."
Stop being competitive and enjoy what other musicans have to offer. Or go make your music that's "better" and leave the rest of us alone already.
Andrea, thanks for your efforts, I found this most helpful!
cmsquared63 2 years ago 32
Very wise words.
JoeSixString 2 years ago
Endless repetition of the motif is boooring. It might work for brainless popmusic, but not for art.
somor98 2 years ago
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Hey Somor98, i guess working on scales is too boooring for you too ... such brainless ... well, everything music ...
These are tools, genius. If you put in the work they actually become part of your non cognitive "artistic" vocabulary. But since you are busy creating high art, I'm sure you won't have time ...
StrudelboySAP 2 years ago
thanks for the tips! melody is important.
tolleck 2 years ago
Exactly.
Gongchime 2 years ago
Nadia Boulange' says you need to have a form and a technique to put within it. It doesn't have to be a traditional form or traditional technique but it better be something and not junior high school delusions of just doing anything random that you want.
Gongchime 2 years ago
people who say 'I don't need to know this' are just people who heard the discography of only 1 artist and don't have a mind or a willpower to learn more about the secrets of music. Even famous artists write crap songs ,they just show their best ones,and even then,there are a lot of crap ones. Understanding how to develop a motive is an ESSENTIAL skill for a musician,and it's what separates the pro from the hobbyst
luigiperso 2 years ago
cobain never used these stuffs, remember kids :)
lukauskis 2 years ago 2
hahah
KaiChippi 2 years ago
lukauskis ,who gives? Cobain only wrote 1 good song.
luigiperso 2 years ago
well let's make it more clear - Lennon didn't use that. it's about feeling.. i hope you won't reply with something more stupid
lukauskis 2 years ago
false.
Cobain played blues guitar. The entire concept is to create and the improv on a motif with your own voice.
hamberg42 2 years ago
@lukauskis Very true, however "stuff" is never plural.
trikespotter 1 year ago
Thanks for this... I went to your web site and favored it. I also bought some of your tracks on itunes, I really love the song you are doing, the recorded version is excellent. I'm a music fan even more so than a budding writer.. So you have yourself a new fan!!
iluvmusic1480 2 years ago
great lesson, beautiful voice, i was wondering if you would be so kind as to take a listen to my song and critique it, you can find it at myspace/alteredseed you can mail me there or leave a comment with what you think, thanks
gary1976us 3 years ago
trikespotter how you gonna dog somebody for giving back a little and trying to help other ppl? yes from the heart cuz SONGS NEED FEEL most important, however these tools will aid ppl to express those feelings to others through the art, so go hate on somebody else. thanks
gary1976us 3 years ago
I ain't hatin anyone dude. You pick my point up wrong. People always lookin for the sour side of life. And I thought I was bein bitter. :D
trikespotter 2 years ago
Very good lesson, I really need to learn songwriting.
And your voice is beautiful!
MynZnusz 3 years ago
awesome and very inspiring... thank you... and as for the smart ones posting negativities; research and factual information support criticisms . if you look at her website you'll see who's actually cut her songs. lol. and as for those who take lessons. wow, i guess you've never heard of john mayer or melissa ethridge who both went to berklee. john mayer actually said he wrote some of his first song in his first semester of the songwriting course. haha, this is blunt honesty...
peace
ns.
nateslate7 3 years ago
Ok, so maybe I was a bit blunt. Each to their own I suppose. You always need a bit of theory just to get the ball rolling. Actually using the Billboard Top 100 as a reference was a really bad choice coz I don't care much for commercial music and I'm not even from the US. :D Just thought it was a suitable comparison at the time. In the music biz myself, but I'm just a stubborn fool who believes in original talent more so than "by the book" stuff. No disrespect intended. Keep up the good work! :D
trikespotter 3 years ago
I wrote four songs with the help of this lesson!
jassongs 3 years ago 3
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Those who can't do.... teach.
And those who can't teach.... teach gym.
(Jack Black - School Of Rock)
Musicians are artists. You think Picasso took lessons? (ok maybe a little) From the heart people, not the "Songwriting for Dummies" book. If she's so good, then why don't I hear her on Billboard Top 100? Sorry. Blunt honesty. :D She can still sing and play guitar though quite well, but who the hell can't these days? :D
trikespotter 3 years ago
no dude, it's called 'talent' and theories help these talents to improve. don't you hear those billboard musicians improve over the time? that's because they learned time to time. but I agree with jack black's quote :D
agraprab 3 years ago
Your skepticism is a good thing However, there are tools for songwriting that can be learned to improve our craft. Those tools don't need to replace our original process, but can offer flexibility and growth. When those tools combine with our inspiration, that's when magic can really happen. If you're looking for raw art, look elsewhere than Billboard top 100. Just because you asked, you will find some of my songs there as well. Search for a process that works for you if this isn't it.
andreastolpe 3 years ago 22
@andreastolpe heya-can i thank you for poasting this vid
iv written some great material and came top 6 in my agegroup (14-16) for make it break it awards :D (an international british songwriting competition)
kind regards from across the pond
arthur
Artyfartyify 1 year ago
i agree with you in some ways. This girl is good and has writing techniques but what makes an artist an artist is making his own stuffs and style. Musicians study how to play instruments and explore them by themselves and experiment by doing something new..i love School of Rock too!!! This girl should go out there play her own songs even though some artist already sang those.
raincute20 2 years ago
Wow! Not always I get someone to even half agree with my point of view. BTW, aren't you that girl who has the song Sana? I heard that. Love the production on it. Rock, without actually being rock. :D
trikespotter 2 years ago
She does have songs out there. You should check them out - they're awesome. She's on itunes and rhapsody.
drumjunky7 2 years ago
Only those who can do can teach e.i. Andres Segovia's Masterclass, Kurt Vonnegut's/E.B. White's/ Frank Lloyd Wright's Collegiate History. There is a curve in education just like everywhere else in the world. Just because you had a subpar gym teacher doesn't mean you can't learn a thing or two from this woman.
ngholden 1 year ago
@trikespotter - you're a patronising half-wit.
Bach, Mozart and Beethoven all taught music. Picasso was rigorously trained by his father, a professor of fine art and a painter himself, from the age of 7. He studied formally for about 10 years.
All great, original creative artists spend many years of hard work acquiring the skills they need to express themselves to a standard they find acceptable.
Blunt honesty:? Try to find a topic you're not pitifully ignorant about.
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable And you are a bounder, a cad, and an irreputable black-guard. You obviously didn't read my post properly, then the following apology post. Speak about old news already. No need to resort to petty name-calling though. At least I didn't lower myself to that status of ignorance. I just voiced an opinion at the time. Pah! Shame on you!
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter - I read both posts. You're a fool.
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable Hahaha... And you are afoot! Quite the irritable Little Lord Fauntleroy, aintcha? And I thought I was quick to criticise. lol...
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter - Is that your best come-back, you dunce?
"Hahaha"?
You made preposterous comments about something you obviously know nothing about. You were called on it.
Deal with it, you narcissistic wanker.
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable You're a twat, dude. Is joining youtube the only reason you became a member as of yesterday to begin a slagging match? "That you're best comeback", and "Deal with it"?!! Are you for real? Is there a nuclear plant near your billabong or something? Btw, being able to recite information from Wikipedia doesn't constitute as you having any intelligence whatsoever. Good luck on your "walkabout", shitkicker.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter - you write like a sulking child.
Specifically, an illiterate child with a huge and fragile ego.
"is joining youtube the only reason you became a member"???
Genius.
You were caught out making fatuous, arrogant and factually incorrect statements, you condescending pin-head.
But you're so thin-skinned that you have a public tantrum when called out.
And as for your moribund cliches about "billabongs" and "walkabouts" - you apparently have the creative imagination of a lettuce leaf.
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable Well, what can I say, Twinkle Toes? You've pretty much got my number. I don't by any chance know you personally, do I? Nah, the people I'm associated with are pretty much on the same level of ignorance as myself, and nowhere near the "superior intelligence" that you display. I'd say your judgement of me is probably somewhat based upon your own standards though. There are however two points which I feel make us differ slightly from one another.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable The first is that I didn't have to create an account out of cowardice to possibly hide my original youtube identity in order to get my point across. And the second would be that I'm less hateful than you to have to instantly resort to name-calling. The only thing I can suggest is that you go out and get laid for once in your life.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable Btw, your Gold Star is in the post. Treasure it next to your Wizard of Oz "Scarecrow" college diploma, for I think you most certainly deserve all that comes your way, with sugar on top. If I only had a brain.... Oh look!... A butterfly!...... And one final point though "Genius", look at your repetition of my "joining youtube" quote, then read again the full sentence which I actually did write. And you do realise I did mean "afoot" and not "a foot" before, right? You are a hoot!
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter Looks like the breezy bravado in your first stupid post has evaporated. Read it again and weep.
Your precious self-esteem has been wounded and now you can't stop posting.
It's a pleasure to watch such a smug narcissist self-destruct.
Maybe Andrea can write a song about it.
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable So, you're now telling us that you're happy to see someone with a smug ego, crushed? And I always thought to be a successful artist in 'POPULAR CULTURE MUSIC' it was important to have a ego. Without that cocky confidence, the budding artist may as well give up before they even begin their career in 'POPULAR CULTURE MUSIC'.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable As for my ego, I'm sorry to say you are far from destroying it. I can only prove this by saying that without my replies to your posts, I think your day would be less eventful. And your insults, like water off a duck's back. But, I'm always game for a bit of sport. I reckon you're going to miss me. The difference between you and me though, is that I know and accept I'm a turd. (And btw, I think your dictionary is 'broken'. You used 'narcissist[ic]' twice in your ramblings) G'luck!
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter Do you always get so hysterical when errors in your puerile posts are pointed out ... little Lord Fauntleroy?
DukeIrritable 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable Yeah, I get hysterical.... with laughter! Which planet are you from that relishes in thinking that you wish for people to suffer more than yourself? Go out, get laid, enjoy yourself. It'll solve a lot of your problems. I am addressing a girl btw, aren't I? (despite the whole "Duke" pseudonym) If not, you should be... I'm sure I know you though. Didn't I push a bag of chips in your face about 10 years ago? I can't wait to hear an answer from that statement. And Andrea also. lol...
trikespotter 1 year ago
@DukeIrritable Oy! "Bach, Mozart and Beethoven all taught music."
Then pray tell, who taught them! You missed my point, and I missed your statement. and after all this abuse! Both fighting over nothing! tsk, tsk...
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter i think your a twat
ppl teach so others can learn
Artyfartyify 1 year ago
@Artyfartyify So I've been told already. And to prove "you're" correct in "you're" assumptions, you should have written, " I think YOU'RE a twat". Way to go, Trigger. Be constructive.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter im a finalist for make it break it awards
iv just played my first gig
im getting noticed
and i started writing because of this video-so jog on :P
Artyfartyify 1 year ago
@Artyfartyify Fair play to you dude. I was once a teenager also you know. You'll grow out of it though. lol... Good luck in the music biz. Remember one thing though.... Don't f♫ck with people on the way up, coz you'll only just meet them on the way back down again. (Ozzy Osbourne quote... not mine) So be careful who you call a twat in future also. You might just need them to produce your hit single.... if ever. Take this as constructive criticism. And take it like a man. Enough bitchin already.
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter fair enough
i just lose it easily :L its my greatest strength
:P and to be brutally honest-youtube makes everyone look like a twat :L
Artyfartyify 1 year ago
@Artyfartyify Well, you're right there about youtube. It certainly has a knack of making people look like a tube. Myself included. lol... No harm done. Stick at it, and don't let the bastards grind you down. :)
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter Actually, that quote was first found in a famous Woody Allen film which was produced when Jack Black was in diapers...lol. You'd be surprised how often and to what extent successful artists study their craft. It's usually those who are creatively blocked who perpetuate the notion that "you either got it or you don't" and that "true artists don't need to study or work at it". The whole process requires a great deal of work, technical, and spiritual. And the work never ends .
izaacmusic1 1 year ago
@izaacmusic1 Which Woody Allen film? Was it post Annie Hall? I stopped watching then coz the humour was way too anal. It still sounds best from the goofy style of JB though. I can imagine it being a Woody Allen line alright, but never have I heard it.. Take the Money And Run? Bananas? Sleeper? Annie Hall? At least you didn't outrightly swear at me, so kudos to you for understanding of opinions, and you have a good point of how artists need to continually work at progressing. I could go on... but
trikespotter 1 year ago
@trikespotter Annie Hall in the opening scene when they are looking at his early school years. It's a pretty funny scene. Hahah...why would I swear at you, you didn't say anything offensive.
izaacmusic1 1 year ago
@izaacmusic1 Sheeks! I can't remember that. It's been a few years alright. When I think of Annie Hall, all I can picture at the moment is the dinner preparation scene. lol... Think it's about time I grabbed myself a copy again. - That's what I thought also about the 'not saying anything offensive', but it didn't stop some other eejits from resorting to immediate name calling. Emotionally unstable cats. lol...
trikespotter 1 year ago
your really pretty and you have a wonderfull an amazin an charming voice bt im still struggling to rite a song/tune 4 my lyrics!:'(
xx
beinloved09 3 years ago
Excellent.
DDR
DAVIDDAMIENR 3 years ago
wow you have a great voice.
paulefty 3 years ago
nice video. you are very beautiful
freeaman 3 years ago
you look like grace, from will and grace...
dudem19 3 years ago
Great! Nice talk on melody building. A request: Include some graphics of the notated examples. You could screen-grab from your music writing program and put it in iPhoto (if you're mac) and import those into iMovie. Windows, I'm not certain, but the program you're using should accomodate this task. Nicely done--I'm subscribing!
spinachtooth 3 years ago
Great lesson, beautiful voice, I too am in love (please come to the U.K). But seriously, really useful helped me a great deal.
SREDNIVASHTAR74 3 years ago
Andrea are you ever in the UK - I think I'm in love!
geneclart1 3 years ago
this is very very simple songwriting. i wouldn't necessarily call 4 ascending notes a particularly interesting melodic phrase or 'motif'.
evanrkg 3 years ago
this is disturbing because i had to replay 0:00-5:00 about 15 times to *try* to grasp how you devised those melodic phrases and transitions. while i think the point you are trying to make is clear, i feel what you have done with just a few notes is extremely complicated. lol.
kingofnyct 3 years ago
thank you
lyonellelion 3 years ago
Excellent. It made me understand pre-choruses which I had never managed to figure out clearly. Thank you Andrea.
Jossezinho 3 years ago
This was really helpful! Thanks alot
offspring101m 3 years ago
ill have to rewatch this,to learn.got too hung up on yer voice.very captivating.
nmfmacgyver 3 years ago 2
thankyou : ) it was soo helpful .. ive been trying to write a goood song for agess! well ive wrote one quite good one but i couldnt get a good tune to go with it. but now ive found one ! thanks! x keep posting !
aimeexice 3 years ago
Really helpful lesson, cheers :)
TripToArcadia 4 years ago 3